I like how you give us a lot of history while youre knapping. I havent seen anyone else who is really doing that. You deserve more recognition for your efforts. Thank you.
Your presentations with demonstrations & historical information regarding traditional Lithic Technology using organic materials are possibly the best I have witnessed on the current day Internet. Thank you for sharing your extensive research, knowledge & documentation thru all your programs. Vincent James Ajello (Lithic Technologist)
Look into the papers coming out of Cooper's Ferry in Idaho lately too. They've got dated Western stemmed lithics hovering around 16k bp. Western stemmed have tantalizing connections to Asia with similar dating. I'm glad you mentioned ancient genomics too. That's becoming an interesting piece of the puzzle lately, hasn't it? Very interesting times in American archaeology right now.
I’m definitely planning on checking out more Coopers Ferry stuff soon. I’d like to do a small series of pre-Clovis knapping. And I’ve been wanting to do more Western Stemmed tradition regardless.
Amazing! I've NEVER seen the complete operation before. VERY enlightening! BUT....how is this "technology" and form different from the Clovis? It's my understanding the Clovis form was NOT found in Northern Siberia and appears to come from Southern France and Northern Spain during the Solutrean era.
Thanks! This technology is distinct from Clovis as it lacks fluting. Also, there’s a good chance that this particular site may not even have pre Clovis deposits, the artifacts underneath the Clovis layer may be younger artifacts introduced through animal burrowing. Please see my video discussing the Solutrean Hypothesis. There is no evidence for a connection between the Clovis and Solutrean cultures and the similarities between those two assemblages are overemphasized.
@@pathwaysofthepast Antone know where to find knappable rock in the Wimberley region? Im going to spend a few days around there and Austin. I realize the material wont be ideal.
Does the pressure tool your using show up in the archeological record and what about that modern abrading tool ?? your a skilled knapper that obvious how about using a bone rod used as an indirect tool and a pressure flaker
That pressure flaking tool does not show up in the archaeological record at Blombos cave. It’s a replica of a tool from a different time and place. While yes, a piece of bone would have been more correct to use to make this point with, changing the exact toolkit I use for every different kind of point I make is just a bit too impractical.
Jay, that hammerstone is cherty limestone. Yeah it was a bit small for what I was using it for in this video. It’s really useful though, it’s tougher than most limestone but still has a chalky grip to it
Clovis. Pre clovis. Just different ways to achieve the same goal. Each with it's advantages and disadvantages. It's just as likely that both methods were used around the same time or at least they overlapped historically.
In 1988 I took an Intro to Archaeology course as a senior. Had I taken it as a freshman I might have changed majors. My professor stated that within 50 years, Archaeology would be a dead science since all worthwhile archaeological sites would have been discovered & explored. That was 33 years ago but it seems that isn't going to happen.
Pathways of the past, I was going to Email you about that comment the other day I made on a video, but I cant find an email to get ahold of you. I don't know a good way to ask for it either except on here. Do you maybe have a way to email me or Facebook maybe. Idk sorry to be a pain. Thank you brotha
It is literally on the other side of a fence from Gault, downstream on the buttermilk creek less than 300 yards. If it wasn’t owned by different landowners, it would be one big site. I visited the Gault site back in the winter (there are periodic tours setup through the Williamson and Bell County museums). It is crazy to see the amount of flakes all over the ground.....just everywhere in some areas.
None of this explains the French style Sulutrian pre clovis on the east coast though which pre date the Asian models.But doesn't fit with mainstream so guess it doesn't exist. By the way the Asian points coming to America don't match any found in Asia by any stretch...
Hi William. If you haven’t already, check out my Solutrean hypothesis video. I discuss the most famous of these supposed Solutrean points on the east coast. If you know of others I’d be happy to take a look and give my opinion. As far as NE Asian points compared to North American points... archeologists currently think that people spent quite some time in Beringia before migrating to N.A. It was a good place to live in the Pleistocene. So I’m sure technology changed while in Beringia. Plus people have been known to make dramatic changes in technology forms and point styles. Dramatic changes in tool technology would be expected by people migrating to a new environment where they had different technological needs.
I like how you give us a lot of history while youre knapping. I havent seen anyone else who is really doing that. You deserve more recognition for your efforts. Thank you.
I’m glad you enjoy the history part, that definitely where most of the work for these videos goes. I appreciate that statement, thank you!
This is a great combo. World class knapping and great information on early indigenous peoples! Keep em coming!
Your presentations with demonstrations & historical information regarding traditional Lithic Technology using organic materials are possibly the best I have witnessed on the current day Internet. Thank you for sharing your extensive research, knowledge & documentation thru all your programs. Vincent James Ajello (Lithic Technologist)
Thank you so much for your kind words! I’m glad you enjoy my videos!
Awesome knapping, great history lesson!
Nice work. Glad I found your channel
Another great video! Keep them coming bud.
I really enjoy your videos.....Please keep doing these for us....Thank your time and talents.
Thanks for the encouragement man! I’ll keep these coming
My nephew found one by Page,Arizona during an archeological survey.
Beautiful point!
I can appreciate the work with the primitive tools. .
I'd call that pre Clovis but it does look like something that might develop into Clovis. Good work.
My older brother and I have found clovis points in Indiana in Starke, Laporte, and Pulaski counties. 1 to 2 inch in length.
Can you do a video on making a serrated edge? Love your videos and all things primitive, stay healthy and God bless you.
Thanks man! I think HuntPrimitive has a video like that that you might want to check out. I’ll think about doing a video like that in the future
Look into the papers coming out of Cooper's Ferry in Idaho lately too. They've got dated Western stemmed lithics hovering around 16k bp. Western stemmed have tantalizing connections to Asia with similar dating.
I'm glad you mentioned ancient genomics too. That's becoming an interesting piece of the puzzle lately, hasn't it? Very interesting times in American archaeology right now.
I’m definitely planning on checking out more Coopers Ferry stuff soon. I’d like to do a small series of pre-Clovis knapping. And I’ve been wanting to do more Western Stemmed tradition regardless.
Amazing! I've NEVER seen the complete operation before. VERY enlightening! BUT....how is this "technology" and form different from the Clovis? It's my understanding the Clovis form was NOT found in Northern Siberia and appears to come from Southern France and Northern Spain during the Solutrean era.
Thanks! This technology is distinct from Clovis as it lacks fluting. Also, there’s a good chance that this particular site may not even have pre Clovis deposits, the artifacts underneath the Clovis layer may be younger artifacts introduced through animal burrowing. Please see my video discussing the Solutrean Hypothesis. There is no evidence for a connection between the Clovis and Solutrean cultures and the similarities between those two assemblages are overemphasized.
Very nice
great vid keep them coming!
Great video...happy day when I see you have posted a new one....Thanks for doing these for us. How long have you been flintknapping ?
Thank you Josh! As of this month I’ve been knapping for ten years.
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Antone know where to find knappable rock in the Wimberley region? Im going to spend a few days around there and Austin. I realize the material wont be ideal.
@@pathwaysofthepast you're thinning techniques are excellent!
Does the pressure tool your using show up in the archeological record and what about that modern abrading tool ?? your a skilled knapper that obvious
how about using a bone rod used as an indirect tool and a pressure flaker
That pressure flaking tool does not show up in the archaeological record at Blombos cave. It’s a replica of a tool from a different time and place. While yes, a piece of bone would have been more correct to use to make this point with, changing the exact toolkit I use for every different kind of point I make is just a bit too impractical.
Is your hammerstone quartzite or sandstone? Its little..
Jay, that hammerstone is cherty limestone. Yeah it was a bit small for what I was using it for in this video. It’s really useful though, it’s tougher than most limestone but still has a chalky grip to it
Clovis. Pre clovis. Just different ways to achieve the same goal. Each with it's advantages and disadvantages.
It's just as likely that both methods were used around the same time or at least they overlapped historically.
In 1988 I took an Intro to Archaeology course as a senior. Had I taken it as a freshman I might have changed majors. My professor stated that within 50 years, Archaeology would be a dead science since all worthwhile archaeological sites would have been discovered & explored. That was 33 years ago but it seems that isn't going to happen.
Can't believe an archaeoligy professor would say that! That arch professor didn't seem to understand what archaeology is.
Pathways of the past, I was going to Email you about that comment the other day I made on a video, but I cant find an email to get ahold of you. I don't know a good way to ask for it either except on here. Do you maybe have a way to email me or Facebook maybe. Idk sorry to be a pain. Thank you brotha
No prob, you can email me at abodude448@gmail.com
@@pathwaysofthepast thank you!
@@pathwaysofthepast I sent an email yesterday to you I dont know if you got it or not. Thanks Silas!
Got the first view !
Gault site?
Debra L. Friedkin site, which is very close in proximity to Gault.
It is literally on the other side of a fence from Gault, downstream on the buttermilk creek less than 300 yards. If it wasn’t owned by different landowners, it would be one big site. I visited the Gault site back in the winter (there are periodic tours setup through the Williamson and Bell County museums). It is crazy to see the amount of flakes all over the ground.....just everywhere in some areas.
None of this explains the French style Sulutrian pre clovis on the east coast though which pre date the Asian models.But doesn't fit with mainstream so guess it doesn't exist. By the way the Asian points coming to America don't match any found in Asia by any stretch...
Hi William. If you haven’t already, check out my Solutrean hypothesis video. I discuss the most famous of these supposed Solutrean points on the east coast. If you know of others I’d be happy to take a look and give my opinion. As far as NE Asian points compared to North American points... archeologists currently think that people spent quite some time in Beringia before migrating to N.A. It was a good place to live in the Pleistocene. So I’m sure technology changed while in Beringia. Plus people have been known to make dramatic changes in technology forms and point styles. Dramatic changes in tool technology would be expected by people migrating to a new environment where they had different technological needs.