As someone just getting started - This really helps. The format is great too - Short videos for 'quick' tips like this - but the longer videos are valuable for us nerds too. Thanks, Mr Biscuit
That's actually good advice. The shape of the stars and the histogram tells it all and the preview at the end is promising that you will deliver all the details as to why that is.
It does not all the time. I have nikon d 810a and it has problems so you need to take a picture at least pass the middle of the histogram also you don't always see how alongated the stars from the screen from the camera.
in ideal world with perfect seeing and sensor yes, but you must to use jittering trick and shorter exposure to counter sensor imperfectness and occasional clouds.
I think you need to pick your battles when first starting out in astrophotography so I get why you say just set the camera to ISO 1600. There are more important things to concentrate on like focus! You're stuffed if you get that wrong no matter how good your processing skills are. Good info on the histogram, Keep up the biscuity crumbs of knowledge :)
Finally a some straight, clear, criteria on how to understand if the exposure is good enough or not at first glance. Another could be: is trading saturated stars in the target for better faint details worth?
Being a beginner, the Coles notes version of ISO and time really helps. I know nothing of photography, but I can nerd out later after having a few successes. cheers Biscuit and thx
Hey man I'm not a nerd (yet) I'm really new to this and trying to learn as much as possible as quickly as possible before I spend a big chunk of change on a scope plus various other stuff like mount, so maybe don't say at the beginning of your video that your not welcome. I really like Rory and the channel too, it was this channel that first sparked my interest and started this journey for me 😜
not related to this video per se', but the only scope in our house is a bird spotting scope with a minimum and maximum magnification of 20-60x. This evening I went on to the back garden knowing that the really bright ones were Venus and Jupiter and then pointed it gently at Jupiter. Of course I could not see any pretty lines, but I was amazed that my cheap crappy spotting scope showed me a couple of pin pricks of light surrounding it. Absolutely amazed that having reached the grand old age of 54, I could 'see' some of Jupiter's moons. Also got a cracking view of the moon. :-)
Bortle 4 sky. Pin sharp tracking on the Neq-6 mount (really lucked out with this mount. It tracks at below 1 arc sec almost all the time). 294MC Pro running at 120 gain and minus 20 degrees. 180sec subs. Have ventured to 300sec subs on particularly clear/still nights and/or faint objects. But nearly always end up back at the 180sec sweet spot.
I spent 3k off the back of your earlier videos then realised I know jack all about photography. (I'm a mechanical engineer) Thanks for the next steps. 🤣
I don't necessarily agree with the ISO settings for DSLR. In my opinion it is best to check photonstophotos for optimal dynamic range and read noise. In case of nikon ISO levels of 200-400 are much more common. ISO 800-1600 is more of a Canon thing, they also seem to have noticable banding in newer models if a lower ISO level is choosen.
Agreed. My Nikon D7500 has a definite drop in noise at ISO400, and very little benefit above that. Having said that, if I were to shoot at ISO1600, it wouldn't be bad. I'm limited more at the moment by mount tracking than by the histogram going too far to the right. But if you have good tracking and a lot of light pollution, then dropping the ISO down to 400 would definitely help.
Fun fact, I arrived at the same conclusion after years of trying, reading and learning more about noise than I ever intended. ISO1600, 60-90s works for 99% of my pictures. And I just checked my histograms - they look ok 😉
Hello good day to you, from Glendale CA , love the content Im 100 percent sure your going to have a boom in subs any minute now! Just need to post more videos 😄. Im looking forward to seeing your trip in October. Okay so I have a Fuji Xm1 and I believe it only goes up to 30 seconds . If thats the case should i try to take mini videos instead?
been on a bit of a binge recently. Hoping 2023 will be my toe dipping into astrophotography. I’d love some advice on location. I see you doing a lot of stuff from a roof in centralish London which is reassuring that I may be able to get decent results without going to the middle of the peak district. But it would be good to have a short video or info on location. comparing eg city vs countryside, perhaps a few select spots that are good options but close to bigger cities?
This video is not for the nerds. It is for the people who want to be a nerd. I know everthing in this video and probably knew the advance section and I am relativly new to this hoby.
so I've been contemplating getting into astronomy/astrophotography for 40 years:) I the 1980's i got a book on how to build your own scope and grind your own mirror, but I never did. Now I'm nearly retired, where can I go to get tutorials on where/how to start observing the heavens? ......Can't rush these things!
Ah, selling the nerdiness. Even though I probably know what would be in the advanced tutorial, there would be never enough Rory! Ah, you geeky devil, what are you doing to me?!
good to see you using the edmund still;) I found a vintage 8 inch celestron starhopper from the 90s that has a pretty good mirror so i upgraded the focuser and spider. only problem is it has a sona tube for the main body so its a total tank and i cant use it on my orion sirius mount:( Im thinking about swapping everything over to an aluminum tube to shed some weight. I may even take the mirror cell out and lathe and drill some weight out of it, It has the optical quality and focal length that would be ideal for galaxies. What do you know about shooting with charged coupled type cameras? i have an older one made by celestron and have been shooting with it. I know there are differences between cmos and ccd but to know how to truly get a certain gain i have to do a little math and didnt know if youve been in the game long enough to have any experience with these types of cameras. I cant remember what the name of the company that made the camera for celestron but i think they are the same company that makes sbig cameras. I feel a little silly devoting so much time and effort to an antiquated camera but it has a really deep full well and its 16 bit dac and its TEC:). Quite impressive specs for its time and still even out performs some modern cameras. I just wish the q/e was a little higher. Any advice would be great:)
astrobiscuit please answer a question. would it have been out of the question for any of the moonlandings to have taken a pic of the starscape? could they not have adjusted the exposures or glare adjustment or whatever just to get one shot in all those missions? i trust your judgment! love the channel.
Im not astrobiscuit but if they would take a picture of the stars it would be very hard. The moon would overexpose really crazy and prob wil cover alot of stars with its glow and they would have to focus on the stars wich would mean the moon would be crazy out of focus
@@ObbeJ i specifically meant shots from the lunar surface. it always seemed like a huge oversight not to take a telescope up when they could take beach buggies up there (and it would have proven without doubt whether we actually landed there or not). its always bugged me.
@@flashingturtle6505 that won't really prove anything. I mean seeing ppl walk around the moon is more proof to me then a picture you can easily fake from earth.
@@wooddogg8 well surely it would reveal more than could ever be seen on earth, no atmospheric distortions etc. who wouldnt have wanted to see new stars and stuff? if i was an astronaut i would happily waste rolls of film trying to get 1 good shot... no? am i nuts? not trying to be the conspiracy nut. its a genuine question
Hello there, Rory. I really would like to ask you a few questions about how far a telescope can see from start point to end on land (like the most powerful one in the market to buy and set up)- which one is the one that can see the furthest? There is a guy claiming that he was able to see Africa from Brazil's cost... like 3000 km away from here... and with a very simple telescope which I find really weird. Is there a way to contact you by email or whaatsapp? Thanks in advance. Cheers... and keep up the great work!
He came back when the world needed him the most
Pink Bunny!🎉
Elaborate
I know you might not think it, but this was actually SUPER useful. I'm going out with my telescope and dSLR tonight for the first time.
I really like straight-to-the-info tutorials. It gives people an informed starting point from which to experiment with. Great video.
As someone just getting started - This really helps.
The format is great too - Short videos for 'quick' tips like this - but the longer videos are valuable for us nerds too.
Thanks, Mr Biscuit
Read Robert Glover (creator of SharpCap). It has detailed explanation. This is amateurish presentation and not entirely correct one.
That's actually good advice. The shape of the stars and the histogram tells it all and the preview at the end is promising that you will deliver all the details as to why that is.
It does not all the time. I have nikon d 810a and it has problems so you need to take a picture at least pass the middle of the histogram also you don't always see how alongated the stars from the screen from the camera.
This is such a good and simple tutorial. Thanks a lot for making it and keep it going!
The longer the better. All your videos are of the highest quality, informative and entertaining.
in ideal world with perfect seeing and sensor yes, but you must to use jittering trick and shorter exposure to counter sensor imperfectness and occasional clouds.
I'm from New York. My subs should be 8 inches if I'm a little hungry, or 12 inches if I'm really hungry. But I don't take pictures of my food. :)
This was purely an ad for his Patreon channel. Nice one! lol
My neighbour is getting a scope for his daughter for Xmas, I immediately pointed him to your channel, this vid is gonna help them so much!
Yessss mate! Finally he's smashing out the tutorials!
Your the man Rory. Love your videos.
ty so much AB. keep giving us this great content!
Woop! I thought I'd have a bit of a biscuit binge and what a suprise to have a new vid!
Straight to the point, loved it.
i do feel slightly ashamed that its just a bog standard video but it does what it says on the tin so hopefully few complaints
@@Astrobiscuit Don't be, I'm a relative newbie myself and its good to be reminded of the basics every now and then. Keeps us all honest lol
@Astrobiscuit I've signed up as a Patreon :) least I could do with the amount of sheer knowledge I have gained from your great channel!
@@DanFPG ahh thx bud. do let me know if you run into any problems
Astrobiscuit please post more? I really enjoyed watching your videos and was really relaxing for me. Keep going!
Dead simple, dead straightforward, really great! Thanks for putting this together
What good timing I started trying astrophotography last night! I do not have a tracking mount yet though! So attempting untracked for now
Be careful. You are about to enter a path with no return. (an expensive one)😉
@@pederp5749 so long as its fun! So far so good
I could listen to you all day.
I was just about to go out a shoot something and then saw this... was definitely worth the time
The man is back 🙌 if you only knew how I miss your uploads
Very understandable, fun and entertaining. Great video!
Decent advice here for “ordinary” photography, too! The penny has also dropped as to how Substack got its name :)
thx martin appreciate ut
Great video Rory! You had me laughing the whole time. Very informative too!
You complete me Astrobiscuit!🥰
that made me laugh... clearly you must have been less than a whisker away from completion😂
@@Astrobiscuit Yes there was a whisker in it!
This is the best astrophotography tutorial I have seen, to date.
Happy new year thank you for another year of great videos and more to come.
Yayy he is back so sooon
2 new videos! It’s a miracle 🎉
I think you need to pick your battles when first starting out in astrophotography so I get why you say just set the camera to ISO 1600. There are more important things to concentrate on like focus! You're stuffed if you get that wrong no matter how good your processing skills are. Good info on the histogram, Keep up the biscuity crumbs of knowledge :)
Thank you. Happy new year!
Yep, it is THAT simple to start with #Astro #Photography - well put video.
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Thanks again!! As a mere mediocre landscape astrophotographer that was quite helpful!!
Finally a some straight, clear, criteria on how to understand if the exposure is good enough or not at first glance. Another could be: is trading saturated stars in the target for better faint details worth?
Thanks Rory, great video. I mostly do planetary images, but i'm kinda interested in expending the hobby to deepsky. So this video helps a lot!
Being a beginner, the Coles notes version of ISO and time really helps. I know nothing of photography, but I can nerd out later after having a few successes. cheers Biscuit and thx
About to head to St Lucia (B4) from London B9! This video is EXACTLY what I was looking for to determine the longest subs I should take. Thanks Rory
Want to learn more? Pay! I love Patrion. I can't do that because the guy who taught me didn't cover anything.
Very clear ! Thanks, i was on the right track.
Just was using ISO on 3200 on my Lumix G9
This is a great piece of info. Thanks! 👍
Cool video. Keep up the good work
I love this guy!
Thank you for this video. We can see your video after months. Thanks for early upload.
i needed this.
Thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks Mr Biscuit ❤
Love this guy!!!!
Nerds! FTW!!!! Awesome as ever, Rory the Breaker...
Hey man I'm not a nerd (yet) I'm really new to this and trying to learn as much as possible as quickly as possible before I spend a big chunk of change on a scope plus various other stuff like mount, so maybe don't say at the beginning of your video that your not welcome. I really like Rory and the channel too, it was this channel that first sparked my interest and started this journey for me 😜
@Grace Stephanie wtf are you on about bot? It's about astrophotography you silly ad bot
Bloody hell! Even I understood that! Cheers 😂
That rig looks a bit top heavy with that monster of a scope on that poor little EQM35. Love it!
Great vid!!! Straight to the point.
This is the best and the shortest. Want to become a patreon. You r the movie maker ❤
Fantastic! Go to a forum and ask the same question about exposure time and gain and 300 people will answer with 300 different answers.
not related to this video per se', but the only scope in our house is a bird spotting scope with a minimum and maximum magnification of 20-60x. This evening I went on to the back garden knowing that the really bright ones were Venus and Jupiter and then pointed it gently at Jupiter. Of course I could not see any pretty lines, but I was amazed that my cheap crappy spotting scope showed me a couple of pin pricks of light surrounding it. Absolutely amazed that having reached the grand old age of 54, I could 'see' some of Jupiter's moons.
Also got a cracking view of the moon.
:-)
Amazing as always.
Thanks for the little tutorial
Been waiting for you to upload a new video
Hes back!
now that brought all the discussion to a pretty small conclusion.
he back :D
You are a MASTER! thank you very much!!!
Bortle 4 sky. Pin sharp tracking on the Neq-6 mount (really lucked out with this mount. It tracks at below 1 arc sec almost all the time). 294MC Pro running at 120 gain and minus 20 degrees. 180sec subs. Have ventured to 300sec subs on particularly clear/still nights and/or faint objects. But nearly always end up back at the 180sec sweet spot.
You are the best!
I spent 3k off the back of your earlier videos then realised I know jack all about photography. (I'm a mechanical engineer) Thanks for the next steps. 🤣
For some mirrorless cameras bulb time is actually limited internally to one-minute exposures. Then they are stacked internally
Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 ❤️
Thanks for your video, great as ever, with a dose of humor. I like it. Any chance to get your hands on the Dwarf 2 and review it?
I don't necessarily agree with the ISO settings for DSLR. In my opinion it is best to check photonstophotos for optimal dynamic range and read noise. In case of nikon ISO levels of 200-400 are much more common. ISO 800-1600 is more of a Canon thing, they also seem to have noticable banding in newer models if a lower ISO level is choosen.
Agreed. My Nikon D7500 has a definite drop in noise at ISO400, and very little benefit above that. Having said that, if I were to shoot at ISO1600, it wouldn't be bad. I'm limited more at the moment by mount tracking than by the histogram going too far to the right. But if you have good tracking and a lot of light pollution, then dropping the ISO down to 400 would definitely help.
Thank you!
thanks rory. and you too biscuit. ;)
Fun fact, I arrived at the same conclusion after years of trying, reading and learning more about noise than I ever intended. ISO1600, 60-90s works for 99% of my pictures. And I just checked my histograms - they look ok 😉
I’m seriously considering the patreon and i don’t even have a telescope 🤣. Only an old dslr nikon D90 and i don’t think it can do the trick.
Hello good day to you, from Glendale CA , love the content Im 100 percent sure your going to have a boom in subs any minute now! Just need to post more videos 😄. Im looking forward to seeing your trip in October. Okay so I have a Fuji Xm1 and I believe it only goes up to 30 seconds . If thats the case should i try to take mini videos instead?
been on a bit of a binge recently. Hoping 2023 will be my toe dipping into astrophotography. I’d love some advice on location. I see you doing a lot of stuff from a roof in centralish London which is reassuring that I may be able to get decent results without going to the middle of the peak district. But it would be good to have a short video or info on location. comparing eg city vs countryside, perhaps a few select spots that are good options but close to bigger cities?
You're the best! 😂
This video is not for the nerds. It is for the people who want to be a nerd. I know everthing in this video and probably knew the advance section and I am relativly new to this hoby.
I use Nikon DSLRs and ISO 200 or 400 seems to work the best in those specific cameras :)
How to focus on moving object ❓❔⁉️🇮🇳🇮🇳
Hey😁 just wondering if you have any footage of the Jupiter/Venus conjunction that is currently happening?🙏🏽❤👀😉
I'm an Indian Astrophotographer, love from India
From where did you bought your equipment
@@dashrathkuwerbalot9229 yes lots, if you interested check my chennal. I Captured mars or iss.
Easy peasy!
so I've been contemplating getting into astronomy/astrophotography for 40 years:) I the 1980's i got a book on how to build your own scope and grind your own mirror, but I never did. Now I'm nearly retired, where can I go to get tutorials on where/how to start observing the heavens? ......Can't rush these things!
Thanks for the video! I’ve just got a Celestron travel 80mm. Really struggling to kind my iPhone 13 camera up to it!
Oh I have had my histogram set to brightness instead of RGB.
I will also try ISO at 1600 in my Canon 1100D.
I LASTED 5 minutes, you were right, cheers.
Yay! It's not a short!
2 months, Oh how I wish you could do this full time
I learned more on this video than I had from my so called photographer cousin who shoots nature pics on auto mode his entire life...
Lol! Nice! Well done
Ah, selling the nerdiness. Even though I probably know what would be in the advanced tutorial, there would be never enough Rory! Ah, you geeky devil, what are you doing to me?!
Thx 👍
Yes,yes,yes
I kissed a gran and I liked it. Always great to have new Astro Biscuit 🍪 video.
good to see you using the edmund still;) I found a vintage 8 inch celestron starhopper from the 90s that has a pretty good mirror so i upgraded the focuser and spider. only problem is it has a sona tube for the main body so its a total tank and i cant use it on my orion sirius mount:( Im thinking about swapping everything over to an aluminum tube to shed some weight. I may even take the mirror cell out and lathe and drill some weight out of it, It has the optical quality and focal length that would be ideal for galaxies.
What do you know about shooting with charged coupled type cameras? i have an older one made by celestron and have been shooting with it. I know there are differences between cmos and ccd but to know how to truly get a certain gain i have to do a little math and didnt know if youve been in the game long enough to have any experience with these types of cameras. I cant remember what the name of the company that made the camera for celestron but i think they are the same company that makes sbig cameras. I feel a little silly devoting so much time and effort to an antiquated camera but it has a really deep full well and its 16 bit dac and its TEC:). Quite impressive specs for its time and still even out performs some modern cameras. I just wish the q/e was a little higher. Any advice would be great:)
Bro big fan 🎉
I don’t have any astro gear😢
I personally prefer my subs a min of 6 inches but sometimes go for the foot long.
(Great video, btw)
astrobiscuit please answer a question. would it have been out of the question for any of the moonlandings to have taken a pic of the starscape? could they not have adjusted the exposures or glare adjustment or whatever just to get one shot in all those missions? i trust your judgment! love the channel.
Im not astrobiscuit but if they would take a picture of the stars it would be very hard. The moon would overexpose really crazy and prob wil cover alot of stars with its glow and they would have to focus on the stars wich would mean the moon would be crazy out of focus
Why? It would look identical to a pic from Earth, where it's much easier.
@@ObbeJ i specifically meant shots from the lunar surface. it always seemed like a huge oversight not to take a telescope up when they could take beach buggies up there (and it would have proven without doubt whether we actually landed there or not). its always bugged me.
@@flashingturtle6505 that won't really prove anything. I mean seeing ppl walk around the moon is more proof to me then a picture you can easily fake from earth.
@@wooddogg8 well surely it would reveal more than could ever be seen on earth, no atmospheric distortions etc. who wouldnt have wanted to see new stars and stuff? if i was an astronaut i would happily waste rolls of film trying to get 1 good shot... no? am i nuts? not trying to be the conspiracy nut. its a genuine question
I'm dropping my Patreon. 1 video a month shouldn't be too difficult to manage..
Could you do a video on taking a photograph of this new comet.
First nerd here🤓
Hello there, Rory. I really would like to ask you a few questions about how far a telescope can see from start point to end on land (like the most powerful one in the market to buy and set up)- which one is the one that can see the furthest? There is a guy claiming that he was able to see Africa from Brazil's cost... like 3000 km away from here... and with a very simple telescope which I find really weird. Is there a way to contact you by email or whaatsapp? Thanks in advance. Cheers... and keep up the great work!