This should be the standard for in depth guides, fucking amazing! The amount of details, and tick timings is super helpful, much appreciated. Can't imagine the amount of work put it. I have 2 questions, You explained p5 tank swapping, could you explain other phases tank swapping? As in, how many attacks between each tank swap, on average, and how do specials affect this timer? The Second question, is when going in and out of range in p5, could you explain the exact tick we need to be outside of nex range, to not get aggroed? Is it the tick she attacks, the tick before, or 2 ticks before?
phases 1, 3 and 4 nex can attack between 2-8 times with 3 and 4 times being the most likely before she swaps. phase 2 it seems to be 2-6 attacks with 2 being a lot more common during phase 2. after nex does a special its more likely for her to swap aggro. I always in my mind called these short cycles + long cycles. a short cycle being her swapping after 2-3 attacks and a long being 4+ however stalling nex for longer than 1 tick which technically can be done without losing ticks yourself will change how many attacks you were due to tank. its impossible to tell if someone is going to get a short cycle or long cycle and also impossible to tell when she will swap under normal circumstances but there is a few things that will cause her to swap earlier than she might have otherwise.. someone being further away and changing their distance from nex someone brewing down and lowering their offensive stats someone swapping gear and changing their defensive stats (from range to melee gear and visa versa) as well as that the amount of time you stall nex for will also effect how many hits you may have tanked. for example stalling for 1 tick and "5 ticking" nex you may still tank up to 8 hits or more if reallllly unlucky but stalling under nex for 3-4 ticks between every hit will always cause you to tank less before it swaps to someone else from what I can tell. for p5 and running out of food you have to be 11 or more tiles away on the tick she attacks (the same time you see her wave her arms and start the animation to attack is the tick you cannot be in range)
@@redeyejedi8615 Mate, this is the most goated answer I could have asked for, super complete. Can't imagine the effort you had to gather this detailed info. Really can't thank you enough!! Do you have any idea how brewing down affects who tanks? Since, the person who tanks, usually has to brew down the most ahah
@@ritzstuff515 I wish I could give a perfect answer to that question but I cannot, there seems to be so many elements of the fight that effect how she chooses her next target with distance being the most common way for her to choose. i think there is a hidden priority system where eventually you are chosen for the tank no matter the circumstances. for example if you had 3 people.. player a, b and c and player A stayed in melee distance whilst player b and c stood 5+ tiles away its likely to keep swapping between b and c but eventually it goes to A. I think we have to accept there is an element of randomness to nex
Thank you so much for this guide. Just starting to learn Nex and no one else goes into detail about how to correct fails or the different possible scenarios you could find yourself in. Really excellent guide and feeling more confident about getting into it some more.
absolutely gorgeous, I really appreciate how in depth you are able to explain her mechanics, its given so much context to what other guides have been saying! ! from some random guy in Leicester lol
Thanks so much for this bro, hands down the best Nex guide I’ve come across. I’m new to PvM/Nex and have watched this through at least 4-5 times and in a matter of
Man, I wouldn't have blorva if not for you, and this is a perfect guide for everyone interested in small team nex. One day when I get GM it'll basically be from following in your footsteps. Amazing work.
Jedi with another banger, if you haven't started doing nex yet i made the same amount from nex in 2 weeks then i made in 8 months at toa, get to nex boys
@Primalz for phase 1 it's optional to pray melee or mage. It's even damage taken either way. Phase 3 and 4 you want to camp mage prayer or you will heal nex too much in phase 3 or get frozen in phase 4. For phase 5 you pray magic when you are not targeted and melee when you are targetted
@@Primalz iirc, the mvp for each minion gets a death charge and the same for the blood reavers, if you have the space for it then there's no harm in bringing it
Thanks for the guide, have been doing a lot of duo nex recently and they've all been pretty speedy and clean but we've been running into an issue from time to time. At the end of mp2 after nex shouts "embrace darkness" we do our final hit and leave but nex sometimes follows us. This wouldn't be an issue but sometimes nex is so close that it begins hitting us with damage every tick, if we run we are taking damage every tick and if we try to reset we take damage every hit. If whoever nex is on hasn't taken too much damage during p2 they can sometimes sip brew and survive before the reset but not always. This doesn't always happen at the end of p2, most of the time nex doesn't follow us and sometimes we have a large enough gap on nex that we can run back into nex at the right time (without taking the tick damage) to reset it. I can maybe get a video next time i do duos if you're unsure what I mean, I don't suppose you know what to do in this situation or how we can avoid this?
i know exactly what you are talking about yes and this can be a very frustrating thing to happen. you go to leave and back off into range distance after she starts embrace darkness and end up being chased whilst still in range of the embrace. there is not a way to avoid this happening but there is 1 small trick that can help get you out of range a bit sooner. if you run around a corner you will create a gap as it takes nex longer to path around any corner. if being chased after you back off its best to keep backing off far enough that you end up running around a corner. this isnt perfect and you more than likely still end up taking damage from the embrace but its the best you can probably do in this situation. the alternative is to back off slightly early which also is not ideal as you want to throw the extra melee hit after she shouts embrace darkness.
@@redeyejedi8615 Thanks for the quick response :) I couldn't find any examples of it in videos or searching in discord servers for people that have ran into this so was a bit frustrating for our only deaths to be to this lol Will give using the corner to create a gap a go and if it's still wobbly take the L and back off slightly early
Hey Mr Redeye, I noticed the invents linked in the description forego crossbows+buckler and I wondered if that's intentional? I remember when running teams around a year ago, people were saying using tbow on Nex herself is trolling (besides low hp during P5) but after seeing the invent and running the calcs it doesn't seem bad at all to me. Is this because you brew-rangepot when needed? Thanks
vw is BIS for special attacks there at nex and yes tbow is better than zcb there also for nex/minions, in some cases zcb can go brr but for consistent dps/mvp's i found those setups to work best
after the combat rebalancing zcb seems to be quite a bit better than tbow for nex itself and i've seen people say it's even better spec than vw since the spec got more accurate aswell, since you still want tbow for minions/reavers is it worth taking zcb and buckler or is it better to stick to vw/tbow
tbow is 5.39 and zcb 5.78 dps now, so its a bit better ye and after doing the calcs voidwaker spec is still better (zcb is just over 26.9dps for the spec and voidwaker is 22.1 dps, for the 50% spec cost its more dmg output than zcb) still worth using voidwaker as a spec but the zcb is worth bringing for nex itself for p2/p5
Swap to light bearer during minion phases and when ranging on p2. I also spec any specs I have at the start of p4 and camp lightbearer all of p4 till p5 and getting 100% back again
Cheers for the great video! One question I have is if you only have an acb should I be switching to long range for minions? Also considering bringing bowfa with crystal body as its better dps than acb on minions? thanks!
Bowfa would be best to bring but its lower defence means you would be targetted by nex more often. Also you defo dont wanna long range the minions. Phase 1, 3 and 4 doesn't matter just stand anywhere tbh. Phase 2 drag in for attacks from umbra tile using rapid still
@@redeyejedi8615 thanks for the reply mate, so by drag in for umbra attacks you mean manually click back to umbra tile while acb is on cooldown essentially?
Hey guys, I've having a hard time understanding how the reset on Nex works. Sometimes, when I run under nex on her 5th tick during her charge (i'm on her center tile), she swaps aggro to my duo who is tanking umbra and just dashes to him?
without seeing a clip would be hard to tell you exactly whats going on with the description provided, this definitely wouldnt happen if he was out of nex's range when you went under
In about 1.7k nex kills I've never had the camera position itself like it does for you during the dash special on p1 - Maybe this is to do with HD? PS. Easily the best OSRS guides
The camera behaviour is not effected by graphics afaik lol, this is pretty normal from that special, maybe i was zoomed out too far so nex was off screen. I had to take the misclick on purpose for that clip, i remember recording that many moon ago lmao
@@redeyejedi8615there must be some reason for it ye me as it's definitely never happened to me - could be misremembering tbf but 99% sure i've had full camera control / ability to move a couple of ticks after i've been damaged by the attack. Not really that deep either way just thought it was wierd 😂
@@Blazin-Major-Haze full camera control? interesting, Its been a very long time since I failed the special but I for sure remember it being a pain to regain control often I guess that is weird lmao
@@Blazin-Major-Haze i done some more nex recently and you are right, this does not happen anymore like that at all, the mechanic for sure used to behave this way sometimes, I dont remember any updates fixing it, very odd
@@redeyejedi8615 Man... the effort you put into these videos, and the follow up research, is truly impressive. I guess they probably quietly fixed it 😂 Thanks for following up bud!
I'm surprised you said Blood Reavers should be focused. You say they heal for x2 their remaining health, but the wiki says it's just x1 - is the wiki just wrong? Even if it's 1x it's still better to focus them because of their lower defense, but I guess I'm hesitant to go against the grain of what teams do if it's only slightly better
its not slightly better, it is a fair bit better. its astounds me that somehow a part of the small teams community ignores the reavers, people go into ice phase starting at 1700+ hp due to ignoring reavers, hurts to play in teams that ignore them, I always leave.
@@redeyejedi8615 Haha I believe it, thanks! Seeing the incredible depth you put into this guide compared to the questionable nature of wiki combat information I figured you were right, just wanted to confirm it wasn't a typo. I will happily kill reavers in my small teams, helping the team and helping to snag MVP all in one!
you cannot get hit that high with protect from magic on, maybe you are missing your prayers. the max hit whilst praying for magic is 17 afaik, unless you are talking about getting hit by melee attacks whilst praying magic
if you're going to call out someone for doing something wrong how about we try explaining what he should be doing or where he should be standing rather then just saying hes doing it wrong and then moving on, this is a guild
that part of the video explained exactly what he should be doing and even has green ticks marked on screen to show what he should be doing? I even say what he's doing wrong, why its wrong as its happening in the guide
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This should be the standard for in depth guides, fucking amazing! The amount of details, and tick timings is super helpful, much appreciated. Can't imagine the amount of work put it.
I have 2 questions, You explained p5 tank swapping, could you explain other phases tank swapping? As in, how many attacks between each tank swap, on average, and how do specials affect this timer?
The Second question, is when going in and out of range in p5, could you explain the exact tick we need to be outside of nex range, to not get aggroed? Is it the tick she attacks, the tick before, or 2 ticks before?
phases 1, 3 and 4 nex can attack between 2-8 times with 3 and 4 times being the most likely before she swaps. phase 2 it seems to be 2-6 attacks with 2 being a lot more common during phase 2. after nex does a special its more likely for her to swap aggro.
I always in my mind called these short cycles + long cycles. a short cycle being her swapping after 2-3 attacks and a long being 4+
however stalling nex for longer than 1 tick which technically can be done without losing ticks yourself will change how many attacks you were due to tank.
its impossible to tell if someone is going to get a short cycle or long cycle and also impossible to tell when she will swap under normal circumstances but there is a few things that will cause her to swap earlier than she might have otherwise..
someone being further away and changing their distance from nex
someone brewing down and lowering their offensive stats
someone swapping gear and changing their defensive stats (from range to melee gear and visa versa)
as well as that the amount of time you stall nex for will also effect how many hits you may have tanked. for example stalling for 1 tick and "5 ticking" nex you may still tank up to 8 hits or more if reallllly unlucky but stalling under nex for 3-4 ticks between every hit will always cause you to tank less before it swaps to someone else from what I can tell.
for p5 and running out of food you have to be 11 or more tiles away on the tick she attacks (the same time you see her wave her arms and start the animation to attack is the tick you cannot be in range)
@@redeyejedi8615 Mate, this is the most goated answer I could have asked for, super complete. Can't imagine the effort you had to gather this detailed info.
Really can't thank you enough!! Do you have any idea how brewing down affects who tanks? Since, the person who tanks, usually has to brew down the most ahah
@@ritzstuff515 I wish I could give a perfect answer to that question but I cannot, there seems to be so many elements of the fight that effect how she chooses her next target with distance being the most common way for her to choose. i think there is a hidden priority system where eventually you are chosen for the tank no matter the circumstances.
for example if you had 3 people.. player a, b and c and player A stayed in melee distance whilst player b and c stood 5+ tiles away its likely to keep swapping between b and c but eventually it goes to A.
I think we have to accept there is an element of randomness to nex
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Thank you so much for this guide. Just starting to learn Nex and no one else goes into detail about how to correct fails or the different possible scenarios you could find yourself in. Really excellent guide and feeling more confident about getting into it some more.
thanks a lot bro, appreciate this comment
absolutely gorgeous, I really appreciate how in depth you are able to explain her mechanics, its given so much context to what other guides have been saying! ! from some random guy in Leicester lol
lol loved reading that, thanks man, there is a multitude of tiny mistakes with my wording for some parts, really happy people find this informative
Thanks so much for this bro, hands down the best Nex guide I’ve come across. I’m new to PvM/Nex and have watched this through at least 4-5 times and in a matter of
thanks a lot, appreciate this comment. made my day bro
Man, I wouldn't have blorva if not for you, and this is a perfect guide for everyone interested in small team nex. One day when I get GM it'll basically be from following in your footsteps. Amazing work.
what a comment, made my day, im glad people are finding use from this guide. there are some minor mistakes but i put a bit of time into it!
@@redeyejedi8615 Quote from a very strong GM I know: "In jedi we trust"... you've built a reputation for yourself!
@@sunfish_bloop I dont even trust myself, oh lord 😅
Awesome guide as always bro! I've been wanting to get into small team Nex so I'll be re-watching this many times
thank you for this guide!! i watched the whole thing once but i will have to watch it 5 times more to fully sink it into my brain lol
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10months later and still extremely helpful. ty dude
this is a great guide, learned a lot
Jedi with another banger, if you haven't started doing nex yet i made the same amount from nex in 2 weeks then i made in 8 months at toa, get to nex boys
Is it more beneficial to pray melee if ur being focussed or mage? Thank you for the in depth guide
@Primalz for phase 1 it's optional to pray melee or mage. It's even damage taken either way.
Phase 3 and 4 you want to camp mage prayer or you will heal nex too much in phase 3 or get frozen in phase 4.
For phase 5 you pray magic when you are not targeted and melee when you are targetted
@@redeyejedi8615 Thanks for the fast response. Legend!
i forgot to ask, is it worth to bring death charge for more specs?
@@Primalz iirc, the mvp for each minion gets a death charge and the same for the blood reavers, if you have the space for it then there's no harm in bringing it
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Thanks for the guide, have been doing a lot of duo nex recently and they've all been pretty speedy and clean but we've been running into an issue from time to time. At the end of mp2 after nex shouts "embrace darkness" we do our final hit and leave but nex sometimes follows us. This wouldn't be an issue but sometimes nex is so close that it begins hitting us with damage every tick, if we run we are taking damage every tick and if we try to reset we take damage every hit. If whoever nex is on hasn't taken too much damage during p2 they can sometimes sip brew and survive before the reset but not always.
This doesn't always happen at the end of p2, most of the time nex doesn't follow us and sometimes we have a large enough gap on nex that we can run back into nex at the right time (without taking the tick damage) to reset it. I can maybe get a video next time i do duos if you're unsure what I mean, I don't suppose you know what to do in this situation or how we can avoid this?
i know exactly what you are talking about yes and this can be a very frustrating thing to happen. you go to leave and back off into range distance after she starts embrace darkness and end up being chased whilst still in range of the embrace.
there is not a way to avoid this happening but there is 1 small trick that can help get you out of range a bit sooner.
if you run around a corner you will create a gap as it takes nex longer to path around any corner.
if being chased after you back off its best to keep backing off far enough that you end up running around a corner.
this isnt perfect and you more than likely still end up taking damage from the embrace but its the best you can probably do in this situation.
the alternative is to back off slightly early which also is not ideal as you want to throw the extra melee hit after she shouts embrace darkness.
@@redeyejedi8615 Thanks for the quick response :) I couldn't find any examples of it in videos or searching in discord servers for people that have ran into this so was a bit frustrating for our only deaths to be to this lol
Will give using the corner to create a gap a go and if it's still wobbly take the L and back off slightly early
@@9till5slave you're welcome
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hi if you dont mind me asking do you know if nex has a specific attack style for melee? does it roll of any of the melee defence bonuses?
good question, im not actually sure
Hey Mr Redeye,
I noticed the invents linked in the description forego crossbows+buckler and I wondered if that's intentional?
I remember when running teams around a year ago, people were saying using tbow on Nex herself is trolling (besides low hp during P5) but after seeing the invent and running the calcs it doesn't seem bad at all to me.
Is this because you brew-rangepot when needed?
Thanks
vw is BIS for special attacks there at nex and yes tbow is better than zcb there also for nex/minions, in some cases zcb can go brr but for consistent dps/mvp's i found those setups to work best
after the combat rebalancing zcb seems to be quite a bit better than tbow for nex itself and i've seen people say it's even better spec than vw since the spec got more accurate aswell, since you still want tbow for minions/reavers is it worth taking zcb and buckler or is it better to stick to vw/tbow
tbow is 5.39 and zcb 5.78 dps now, so its a bit better ye and after doing the calcs voidwaker spec is still better (zcb is just over 26.9dps for the spec and voidwaker is 22.1 dps, for the 50% spec cost its more dmg output than zcb)
still worth using voidwaker as a spec but the zcb is worth bringing for nex itself for p2/p5
great guide. my only question is for when to use lightbearer or ultor ring during the kill
Swap to light bearer during minion phases and when ranging on p2.
I also spec any specs I have at the start of p4 and camp lightbearer all of p4 till p5 and getting 100% back again
Cheers for the great video! One question I have is if you only have an acb should I be switching to long range for minions? Also considering bringing bowfa with crystal body as its better dps than acb on minions? thanks!
Bowfa would be best to bring but its lower defence means you would be targetted by nex more often.
Also you defo dont wanna long range the minions. Phase 1, 3 and 4 doesn't matter just stand anywhere tbh.
Phase 2 drag in for attacks from umbra tile using rapid still
@@redeyejedi8615 thanks for the reply mate, so by drag in for umbra attacks you mean manually click back to umbra tile while acb is on cooldown essentially?
@@samslaughter6469 yes exactly that (:
@@redeyejedi8615 top man thank you!
Hey guys, I've having a hard time understanding how the reset on Nex works. Sometimes, when I run under nex on her 5th tick during her charge (i'm on her center tile), she swaps aggro to my duo who is tanking umbra and just dashes to him?
without seeing a clip would be hard to tell you exactly whats going on with the description provided, this definitely wouldnt happen if he was out of nex's range when you went under
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In about 1.7k nex kills I've never had the camera position itself like it does for you during the dash special on p1 - Maybe this is to do with HD?
PS. Easily the best OSRS guides
The camera behaviour is not effected by graphics afaik lol, this is pretty normal from that special, maybe i was zoomed out too far so nex was off screen. I had to take the misclick on purpose for that clip, i remember recording that many moon ago lmao
@@redeyejedi8615there must be some reason for it ye me as it's definitely never happened to me - could be misremembering tbf but 99% sure i've had full camera control / ability to move a couple of ticks after i've been damaged by the attack.
Not really that deep either way just thought it was wierd 😂
@@Blazin-Major-Haze full camera control? interesting, Its been a very long time since I failed the special but I for sure remember it being a pain to regain control often
I guess that is weird lmao
@@Blazin-Major-Haze i done some more nex recently and you are right, this does not happen anymore like that at all, the mechanic for sure used to behave this way sometimes, I dont remember any updates fixing it, very odd
@@redeyejedi8615 Man... the effort you put into these videos, and the follow up research, is truly impressive.
I guess they probably quietly fixed it 😂
Thanks for following up bud!
Were you in Trolling PVM back in RS2? Your name looks so familiar.
Anyways, great guide! Tyvm for making it.
I dont believe i was and thanks :p
I'm surprised you said Blood Reavers should be focused. You say they heal for x2 their remaining health, but the wiki says it's just x1 - is the wiki just wrong? Even if it's 1x it's still better to focus them because of their lower defense, but I guess I'm hesitant to go against the grain of what teams do if it's only slightly better
its not slightly better, it is a fair bit better. its astounds me that somehow a part of the small teams community ignores the reavers, people go into ice phase starting at 1700+ hp due to ignoring reavers, hurts to play in teams that ignore them, I always leave.
@@redeyejedi8615 Haha I believe it, thanks! Seeing the incredible depth you put into this guide compared to the questionable nature of wiki combat information I figured you were right, just wanted to confirm it wasn't a typo. I will happily kill reavers in my small teams, helping the team and helping to snag MVP all in one!
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nex is the biggest bs I've ever seen in my life, she does way too much unavoidable damage. 30's through magic pray eventhough you say she can't lol
you cannot get hit that high with protect from magic on, maybe you are missing your prayers. the max hit whilst praying for magic is 17 afaik, unless you are talking about getting hit by melee attacks whilst praying magic
if you're going to call out someone for doing something wrong how about we try explaining what he should be doing or where he should be standing rather then just saying hes doing it wrong and then moving on, this is a guild
that part of the video explained exactly what he should be doing and even has green ticks marked on screen to show what he should be doing? I even say what he's doing wrong, why its wrong as its happening in the guide