Been getting asked a lot to make something like this. Can certainly adjust based on what items you have, but this shows you the foundations of how to go fast in a CM even without megarares or kirby skip, while also doing a small quick prep. If you don't have claws or voidwaker it's fine can skip it. The big thing is inventory management and banking, so with a different set-up you can try even writing down what you're gonna bank in notepad just to remember what to do at each bank part, once you got it figured out you're chilling. Note I believe this run had 2 anvil tekton, and 2 teleport vasa, both quite unlucky, so even with bad rng if you play well you'll be fine. If you have shadow or tbow that'll save quite a bit of time and give you even more time to spare in mistakes. Note: at 20 minutes in I coulda just overloaded and then ran up to vasa, rather than waiting for my overload to wear off, since vasa teleport does all my hp anyways minus 5.
How do u get the clickbox or object marker at vesp portal? I tried doing it with better npc hilights and npc indictors and it doesn't even have an npc id for radius markers... I got its tile marked somehow but thats it. Thanks for the video
going for my own GM hilt and you uploading this right now is super helpful, just got done with solo cox gm time yesterday, looking forward to finishing cm soon
thank you so much for the comprehensive guide! I’ve been struggling to get the gm time with close to max gear and I haven’t figured out where I am losing the large portion of my time. I also haven’t hit the gm time for regs, so I’m not quite sure what I’m doing wrong, it could be that I’m brewing down too much at olm as I struggle to look at my ovl timing when doing shadow method.
but the notes you have put up on the screen are so helpful in trying to speed up banking! if it’s possible, could you show some notes for how to handle floor 3 with shadow? sometimes I die to mutt as I only have space for 4-5 brews and no purple sweets to tick eat big mutta. thanks!
This is great! Could you please tell me how you got your boosts icons + the decimal numbers (like overload time left) - plugin name and/or setting in runelite?
Sure, better overload is the plugin I believe that got me the overload with decimal values, here's a pic with my settings i.imgur.com/lexyq8S.png Lemme know if that gets it sorted
It's easier to tell if you tag the boss like I Have, but basically if you stand in melee distance of vespula while it's in stinging mode it hits big damage on you, but if you stand under vespula you take small hits. So you need to be careful to never run into melee distance of Vespula while it's in stinging mode, you'll see I always run to the tile that puts me with a 1 tile gap away from Vespula when I run out.
For voidwaker on vasa I recommend putting the body/legs switch as your 5th/6th switches if you're not comfy making full switches, as they're less impactful if you miss them (torture = +10 str, infernal cape = +8). That's ~4-5 max hits gained per spec over BCP + tassets.
Good call! Funny enough I intended to do the full switch in the run while recommending people just do a partial switch, but realized with the 4-tick bofa I just didn't have the time to pull it off compared to with 5-tick tbow lol.
How do you not get blasted for 8 brews at muta? I’ve been shadowing big muta & shamans and bringing full masori buckler and Dhcb for the faster head phase (as opposed to full crystal and BofA and using at all three areas). Think robes are just too weak defensively for big muta?
Great video! If I’m rocking shadow with max mage (camping lightbearer) and masori with dhcb buckler, what should my inventory look like going into the third floor? I’m about 50 solos in and it seems like such an insane dps race for me to have enough brews to survive mutt. As of now I use dhcb+Vw for vasa and then I shadow mystics+baby mutt, and then dhcb momma mutt. Should I be bringing a blowpipe (amethyst darts) and just bank all my mage gear and blowpipe mystics and momma mutt? Sorry for the word vomit but it’s just been really aggravating me. Momma mutt is harder than olm lol.
@ tbh man DHCB seems so inconsistent on Mutt. What I’ve been doing instead is just bring crystal+Bowfa to use for last floor. I also bring DHCB and then bank bowfa for olm. But instead of using shadow for third floor I just use crystal+bowfa for Vasa+mystics+CM’s!
Both 'CoX additions' and 'Monster HP Percentage' offer certain HP% overlays, I'd recommend using the latter as it's more flexible. Also quite useful for other NPCs (Akkha, Ba-Ba, Callisto, Zebak, Nex, etc.)
What should you do at Muttadile if you have twisted bow instead of a Bowfa setup, but no Shadow? Should I still bank all mage gear and melee baby mutta or should I bring minimal mage switches (occult, torm & sang)?
@@floyd5949 appreciate the quick reply man. i actually gave it a go right after i asked and i got spooned hits. cleared mystics super fast and got my gm time :)
u reckon if you're grinding cms a zgs is worth the invent space? idk what the % chance for the spec to land is but is the potential time save worth risking? looks like you would end up having very few brews at the end IF zgs splashed so I'm guessing with your exact strats in this video the zgs is not worth
It's about a 55% to land both ZGS with bellator, 51% without bellator, around there. With tbow+shadow it's not too bad missing 1 ZGS, and you're very likely to hit at least 1 of them, but with bofa sang, in particular missing tbow for big mutta, it's very brutal if you miss the ZGS on big mutta. If you do have tbow+shadow tho, then missing 1 ZGS makes mutta comparable to chopping, but missing both makes it much worse, so you don't have much to lose in that case as it's very rare to miss both. However it's also easy to mess up the ZGS spec, in particular if you just barely deal enough damage to activate the tree eating phase and misjudge it, so for anyone just going for GM time it's most likely not worth the trouble. When ZGS lands on both mutta I'd estimate it's around a 20-30s time save, more with a low woodcutting level. If just going for GM time I wouldn't really go for ZGS unless you're really struggling and you feel like the extra brews would help, as you take quite a lot less damage compared to chopping if you hit both ZGS specs, since the mutta's get stuck looking at the tree for so long. If you're just looking for a little extra time save, well if you have tbow you shouldn't really need the extra 20-30s, and if you don't have tbow then missing the ZGS on big mutta is rip run, risking the entire run on 20-30s time save I'd say isn't worth it. If you are in max and pushing for fast consistent times though, I'd definitely do ZGS, even when you miss 1 it ends up being comparable to chopping after all, you can rarely get super screwed and have to tick eat big mutta, but that can happen while chopping as well to be fair so no real change there.
@@myroache3518 Ye guess you found it lol, I get the start raid menu open in advance, and then when the number is green, I press 1 and click on the door, in that order but all in the same tick.
2:0 shadow is better DPS than sang still, so yea definitely fine. 1:0 scythe is a very big hit to dps though, gonna be losing 30-40s per phase depending if you hit hammer, for a total of 1:30-2:00 lost. So I suppose if the rest of your run is good enough to be pacing for a 36 minute time it'd be fine, having both tbow and shadow would certainly help with that. Also stam might be an issue if you 1:0 all of Olm, I guess you could bring an extra stam if needed. So basically, possible if you enter Olm around 26 or 27 minutes, so if you just really struggle with Olm but you have the rest of the raid down then it could be fine, but I'd really recommend learning 4:1 lance instead.
Hey Kirby/chat, if you have both claws & vw which is better overall?. also if you have a tbow but not a shadow what would you recommend using for the muta? 3way mage switch like the ol' days I guess? great video lots of insight as always!
Bp for small mutt if you can fit in your setup Claws/vw both are good but I think vw clears bc it’s more consistent and can be used more throughout the raid (shaman, guaranteed at vangs, spec vasa, mystics, etc) Though I didn’t see Kirby I think is chopping Mutt vs zgs/freeze. So in that case I’d just take sang/occult (can use your book as an offhand or a fortified ward If you have an arcane- don’t think the reg is worth the invent space with the BotD) You can generally drop tassets as well if you want to bring another item, say VW and claws, bp, etc
If you have tbow+shadow and just going for faster raids I'd do it, but without tbow+shadow it's pretty rough when it misses. Also it's easy to mess up the ZGS spec on big mutta, so for someone just going for GM time rather than faster times I'd recommend chopping instead, but if you feel confident go for it.
i need someone to run me through a cox raid for my achievement cape. Im good at other raids with almost max gear i did over 50 solo kc in leagues but doing it in the main game is a diff story for me mainly making all the pots took me forever sent over a hour and still didnt make it to olm so i gave up
Lmao at first I laughed when I saw I got the name wrong, but then looking online it seems stores that sell them in real life call it both dibber and dibbler. Today I learned.
I have done tightrope 3 times in a row trying to cross while tanking magers in bis range gear and all 3 times I have died even after brewing up and brewing before I cross the rope a 2nd time, Doesnt seem very rare to die as you claim just kill the magers and save yourself some time by not dying. This seems like the god run because even on ice demon we're not hitting like that lmfao you had a sub 2, I hit 10 0s in a row every time.
This video really tilted me. In ancest top bottom hat ma2 cape occult bracelet ward I permanently splash on the mage hand to the point I've just closed my client because p1 took me 5 minutes and you destroyed your mage hand
DPS here was pretty average according to DPS sheet aside from one of the phases that was fast, sometimes rng just be trolling I've had my fair share of WR runs lost to ungodly amounts of splashes and triple 0 scythe hits. Just make sure you're using thralls, and hope the RNG isn't trolling next time.
Bro. I love that you closed the client. I’ve done that so much it’s disturbing. Especially in COX. Such a depressing zone. And everything takes so damn long.
@Molgoatkirby This was calculated; mentioning off cuff "oh yeah, if you can *do* the kirby skip, then go for it. This is only a GM level guide." Is way cooler ❤
Been getting asked a lot to make something like this. Can certainly adjust based on what items you have, but this shows you the foundations of how to go fast in a CM even without megarares or kirby skip, while also doing a small quick prep. If you don't have claws or voidwaker it's fine can skip it.
The big thing is inventory management and banking, so with a different set-up you can try even writing down what you're gonna bank in notepad just to remember what to do at each bank part, once you got it figured out you're chilling.
Note I believe this run had 2 anvil tekton, and 2 teleport vasa, both quite unlucky, so even with bad rng if you play well you'll be fine. If you have shadow or tbow that'll save quite a bit of time and give you even more time to spare in mistakes.
Note: at 20 minutes in I coulda just overloaded and then ran up to vasa, rather than waiting for my overload to wear off, since vasa teleport does all my hp anyways minus 5.
How do u get the clickbox or object marker at vesp portal? I tried doing it with better npc hilights and npc indictors and it doesn't even have an npc id for radius markers... I got its tile marked somehow but thats it. Thanks for the video
26:10 also Kirby: never get hit by offpray range attack.
going for my own GM hilt and you uploading this right now is super helpful, just got done with solo cox gm time yesterday, looking forward to finishing cm soon
Aye kuji! -self
How did you get on mate literally did my regular cox Gm time yesterday 😂 looking at CM time too
@@almostfamous1685 lmfao
@@almostfamous1685 got it on my second attempt for regs, 3rd for cm
Thank you so much, this is perfect guide for me exactly what i needed
I cannot fathom how little damage you took in mutta there in the whole encounter, baby mutta usually be woox walking me and slapping 40 +
Same brother
thank you so much for the comprehensive guide! I’ve been struggling to get the gm time with close to max gear and I haven’t figured out where I am losing the large portion of my time. I also haven’t hit the gm time for regs, so I’m not quite sure what I’m doing wrong, it could be that I’m brewing down too much at olm as I struggle to look at my ovl timing when doing shadow method.
but the notes you have put up on the screen are so helpful in trying to speed up banking! if it’s possible, could you show some notes for how to handle floor 3 with shadow? sometimes I die to mutt as I only have space for 4-5 brews and no purple sweets to tick eat big mutta. thanks!
This is great!
Could you please tell me how you got your boosts icons + the decimal numbers (like overload time left) - plugin name and/or setting in runelite?
Sure, better overload is the plugin I believe that got me the overload with decimal values, here's a pic with my settings i.imgur.com/lexyq8S.png Lemme know if that gets it sorted
@@MolgoatkirbyThis is perfect, thank you
I didn't notice anywhere in the video what ring you had, but I'm guessing lightbearer?
Amazing guide as usual. Are your written notes available anywhere? thanks
For some reason at vespula I take big hits from the boss when I step out from under it to the east side. What is the way to avoid this?
It's easier to tell if you tag the boss like I Have, but basically if you stand in melee distance of vespula while it's in stinging mode it hits big damage on you, but if you stand under vespula you take small hits. So you need to be careful to never run into melee distance of Vespula while it's in stinging mode, you'll see I always run to the tile that puts me with a 1 tile gap away from Vespula when I run out.
For voidwaker on vasa I recommend putting the body/legs switch as your 5th/6th switches if you're not comfy making full switches, as they're less impactful if you miss them (torture = +10 str, infernal cape = +8). That's ~4-5 max hits gained per spec over BCP + tassets.
Good call! Funny enough I intended to do the full switch in the run while recommending people just do a partial switch, but realized with the 4-tick bofa I just didn't have the time to pull it off compared to with 5-tick tbow lol.
@Kirby where can i find ss tiles for vangs
How do you not get blasted for 8 brews at muta? I’ve been shadowing big muta & shamans and bringing full masori buckler and Dhcb for the faster head phase (as opposed to full crystal and BofA and using at all three areas). Think robes are just too weak defensively for big muta?
Hey, what plugin for the floor time splits?
thanks for the tips mate, after several resets, I got it in like 5 tries. (with good gear obv) you are the GOAT of speedruns
Great video! If I’m rocking shadow with max mage (camping lightbearer) and masori with dhcb buckler, what should my inventory look like going into the third floor? I’m about 50 solos in and it seems like such an insane dps race for me to have enough brews to survive mutt. As of now I use dhcb+Vw for vasa and then I shadow mystics+baby mutt, and then dhcb momma mutt. Should I be bringing a blowpipe (amethyst darts) and just bank all my mage gear and blowpipe mystics and momma mutt? Sorry for the word vomit but it’s just been really aggravating me. Momma mutt is harder than olm lol.
i have the same question. did you ever figure it out?
@ tbh man DHCB seems so inconsistent on Mutt. What I’ve been doing instead is just bring crystal+Bowfa to use for last floor. I also bring DHCB and then bank bowfa for olm. But instead of using shadow for third floor I just use crystal+bowfa for Vasa+mystics+CM’s!
@iLoveSomeDubstep exactly what I was thinking too. Bowfa is so comfy in every other part of the raid so might try that. Ty
@ no prob dude. Gl :)
Is solo CM olm consistent with only 1 stam? DO I need to do energy saving tech for mage running?
your screen looks so smooth, why?
What plugin is the hp % on muttadile and olm?
Both 'CoX additions' and 'Monster HP Percentage' offer certain HP% overlays, I'd recommend using the latter as it's more flexible. Also quite useful for other NPCs (Akkha, Ba-Ba, Callisto, Zebak, Nex, etc.)
I use Arclight on ice demon with similar gear on my iron, it goes pretty hard
i crystal better to use than masori + tbow?
no
What should you do at Muttadile if you have twisted bow instead of a Bowfa setup, but no Shadow? Should I still bank all mage gear and melee baby mutta or should I bring minimal mage switches (occult, torm & sang)?
Fang or scythe are both very viable for the small muttadilly. I personally don't bother bringing shadow for bottom floor, just for the QoL
@@floyd5949 do you bring a salve and range mystics?
@@KashOSRS Yes, tbow+salve on mystics works like a charm. Obviously shadow is slightly better, but definitely not needed!
@@floyd5949 appreciate the quick reply man. i actually gave it a go right after i asked and i got spooned hits. cleared mystics super fast and got my gm time :)
@@KashOSRS congrats! :)
u reckon if you're grinding cms a zgs is worth the invent space? idk what the % chance for the spec to land is but is the potential time save worth risking? looks like you would end up having very few brews at the end IF zgs splashed so I'm guessing with your exact strats in this video the zgs is not worth
It's about a 55% to land both ZGS with bellator, 51% without bellator, around there.
With tbow+shadow it's not too bad missing 1 ZGS, and you're very likely to hit at least 1 of them, but with bofa sang, in particular missing tbow for big mutta, it's very brutal if you miss the ZGS on big mutta. If you do have tbow+shadow tho, then missing 1 ZGS makes mutta comparable to chopping, but missing both makes it much worse, so you don't have much to lose in that case as it's very rare to miss both. However it's also easy to mess up the ZGS spec, in particular if you just barely deal enough damage to activate the tree eating phase and misjudge it, so for anyone just going for GM time it's most likely not worth the trouble.
When ZGS lands on both mutta I'd estimate it's around a 20-30s time save, more with a low woodcutting level. If just going for GM time I wouldn't really go for ZGS unless you're really struggling and you feel like the extra brews would help, as you take quite a lot less damage compared to chopping if you hit both ZGS specs, since the mutta's get stuck looking at the tree for so long. If you're just looking for a little extra time save, well if you have tbow you shouldn't really need the extra 20-30s, and if you don't have tbow then missing the ZGS on big mutta is rip run, risking the entire run on 20-30s time save I'd say isn't worth it.
If you are in max and pushing for fast consistent times though, I'd definitely do ZGS, even when you miss 1 it ends up being comparable to chopping after all, you can rarely get super screwed and have to tick eat big mutta, but that can happen while chopping as well to be fair so no real change there.
legend appreciate the detailed reply! I'm using shadow+bowfa so I'll just stick to chopping instead of risking it :)@@Molgoatkirby
Worth mentioning that you no longer need a seed dibber if you have barbarian farming done.
how do you know wich tick to enter to lure tekton that way?
Cox additions - instance timers.
@@myroache3518 Ye guess you found it lol, I get the start raid menu open in advance, and then when the number is green, I press 1 and click on the door, in that order but all in the same tick.
@@Molgoatkirby got it. Great guide. Definately gonna use the strat. Ty
do you think 1:0 scythe and 2:0 shadow methods be enough to still make gm time?
2:0 shadow is adequate but 1:0 melee is pretty rough
2:0 shadow is better DPS than sang still, so yea definitely fine. 1:0 scythe is a very big hit to dps though, gonna be losing 30-40s per phase depending if you hit hammer, for a total of 1:30-2:00 lost. So I suppose if the rest of your run is good enough to be pacing for a 36 minute time it'd be fine, having both tbow and shadow would certainly help with that. Also stam might be an issue if you 1:0 all of Olm, I guess you could bring an extra stam if needed.
So basically, possible if you enter Olm around 26 or 27 minutes, so if you just really struggle with Olm but you have the rest of the raid down then it could be fine, but I'd really recommend learning 4:1 lance instead.
Hey Kirby/chat, if you have both claws & vw which is better overall?. also if you have a tbow but not a shadow what would you recommend using for the muta? 3way mage switch like the ol' days I guess? great video lots of insight as always!
Bp for small mutt if you can fit in your setup
Claws/vw both are good but I think vw clears bc it’s more consistent and can be used more throughout the raid (shaman, guaranteed at vangs, spec vasa, mystics, etc)
Though I didn’t see Kirby I think is chopping Mutt vs zgs/freeze. So in that case I’d just take sang/occult (can use your book as an offhand or a fortified ward If you have an arcane- don’t think the reg is worth the invent space with the BotD)
You can generally drop tassets as well if you want to bring another item, say VW and claws, bp, etc
what plugin show hit >?
If you mean the predicted hit, it's the customizable xp drops plugin
is zgs worth bringing for mutta or not worth it?
it can be worth but if can splash quite abit which can really mess you up
If you have tbow+shadow and just going for faster raids I'd do it, but without tbow+shadow it's pretty rough when it misses. Also it's easy to mess up the ZGS spec on big mutta, so for someone just going for GM time rather than faster times I'd recommend chopping instead, but if you feel confident go for it.
i need someone to run me through a cox raid for my achievement cape. Im good at other raids with almost max gear i did over 50 solo kc in leagues but doing it in the main game is a diff story for me mainly making all the pots took me forever sent over a hour and still didnt make it to olm so i gave up
hey molgoat, whats ur game dimensions?
Hey it's 1143 x 644
@@Molgoatkirby ty homie been wanted to try different pvmers dimensions ❤️
seed dibbler
Lmao at first I laughed when I saw I got the name wrong, but then looking online it seems stores that sell them in real life call it both dibber and dibbler. Today I learned.
And now you don't need it at all.
I have done tightrope 3 times in a row trying to cross while tanking magers in bis range gear and all 3 times I have died even after brewing up and brewing before I cross the rope a 2nd time, Doesnt seem very rare to die as you claim just kill the magers and save yourself some time by not dying. This seems like the god run because even on ice demon we're not hitting like that lmfao you had a sub 2, I hit 10 0s in a row every time.
how do you get the cox timers for the floors and olm top left anyone know? thanks
Try Cox splits, I just got it recently and it breaks down the time for everything really nicely
Harder to do woth fang nerf but still impressive.
How do you make your true tile like that?
Corner tile indicators plugin.
The goat
Kirby the goat
the dibbler
Ok fine. I'll subscribe
my bowfa also sucks ass against cm vasa
Oh daddy
This video really tilted me. In ancest top bottom hat ma2 cape occult bracelet ward I permanently splash on the mage hand to the point I've just closed my client because p1 took me 5 minutes and you destroyed your mage hand
DPS here was pretty average according to DPS sheet aside from one of the phases that was fast, sometimes rng just be trolling I've had my fair share of WR runs lost to ungodly amounts of splashes and triple 0 scythe hits. Just make sure you're using thralls, and hope the RNG isn't trolling next time.
Bro. I love that you closed the client. I’ve done that so much it’s disturbing. Especially in COX. Such a depressing zone. And everything takes so damn long.
5 minute Olm phase is a skill issue 100%
@alexstozek12 it's a joke about rng, calm your knickers mate.
If you raise your magic level to 99 you're less likely to splash
Solo cm and no Kirby skip? Come on
I figure I'd show how it's done for those who fear the kirby skip's power.
@Molgoatkirby This was calculated; mentioning off cuff
"oh yeah, if you can *do* the kirby skip, then go for it. This is only a GM level guide."
Is way cooler
❤
ferst
you forgot to mention you have all 99 stats and make all skilling rooms and crocs easier :)
i like how i run this with tbow and shadow and scythe and somehow do less dps than you lmao literally sitting there noodling on shit wiht mega rares.
seed dibbler