Good summation on why Old Covenant Jerusalem was the harlot. Her physical destruction in AD70 is the outward sign that the Old Covenant ended [Hebrews 8:13 & 10:37 & 12:22 & 13:14]. Bring that good thinking home and become a Full Preterist. By the way, Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.'s writings helped me move from partial to Full. 🙂
@@user-yo9pv1ni6t Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It’s definitely a topic that stirs a lot of discussion among Christians. While preterism might seem strange to some, it’s important to note that there are different interpretations within eschatology, and many who hold to a preterist view do so with a sincere desire to understand Scripture faithfully. It’s also worth noting that "heresy" is a technical term used to describe teachings outside the bounds of orthodox Christian faith. While some may use it casually, it’s helpful to reserve the term for core doctrinal issues as defined by historic creeds and councils. Regarding Babylon being Vatican City, that’s a position associated with the historicist or futurist interpretation of Revelation. Others see Babylon as symbolic of a broader corrupt system rather than a specific location. These discussions are a great reminder of the richness and complexity of biblical prophecy, encouraging us to study diligently and remain humble in our interpretations. If you'd like, I can point you to some resources to explore these topics further!
@@davehentschel6420 No I need no material,, God tells me what the scriptures mean,, so I am OK in that dept,,, ,,such as The antichrist siutting in the temple acting as supreme high priest etc,, everyone things Daniel's prophesy is speaking FUTURE,, when i fact most of daniel is in our PAST tense,, But his future tense that would be Antichosus Epiphanes 4th.. He was the antichrist as that time,, also most eschatologgy teaches **8When THEEEEE antichist comes** as IF it is one man and ONE only,, THE,,,not true JOhn says **there are MANYYYYY antichrists ALREADY NOW among us*** THe t truth is antichrist has been w us from the very beginnings,, Cain killed Able = antichris,, and even BEFORE that, Eve fell into a picaddillo (= major infraction falling to a desire for unordained sexual impulse which Adam fell in with) .... and as to your last comment that Babylon is more than the CC cult,,I agree, The RCC cul;t has been aound since Constintine, so all kings of europe went into realtions with her,,, This is why the RRC is called the MOTHER of all whoredom,, and her son is called protestantism a even more filthy whore than his mother... Everything we see on earth is given birth by this RCC cult, the US government could not exist w/o the whoredoms of the christian cult. Christianity is a super duper major major player within the vast antichrist beast system,, Yes heresy means a opinion, as you say outside the accepted orthodox opinion. But as history shows us orthodoxy is the real heresy that is satan. and his sons the amtichrist beast sytems. I HATE all eschatology,, that craploa is a bunch of bunk,, I am believe what God tells me through the scriptures via dreams and other methods. Yes I am as you surmise am gnostic Nice Day
@Valhalla369 Though once popular during the Protestant reformation and for those who take the historicist approach, this view is the least defendable. Since the Book of Revelation presents itself as a source of encouragement and blessing to its original recipients, it seems unlikely that its primary focus would be the fall of an ecclesiastical institution centuries in the future. Does this interpretation not seem more tailored to the struggles of persecuted Protestants in the sixteenth century than to the challenges faced by first-century Christians?
@@leaderleader658 It’s great that you’re spending time in the Bible-that’s such an important practice! At the same time, the Bible itself emphasizes the value of learning in community, as God has given pastors and teachers to help equip and guide us (Ephesians 4:11-13). While I understand that past disappointments or negative experiences with pastors can make it hard to trust, isolating ourselves can limit our understanding and lead to misinterpretation. Even the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 needed someone to help him understand Scripture. Pastors aren’t meant to replace your personal study but to partner with you in growing deeper in God’s Word. I’d love to pray for wisdom and understanding as you continue studying and encourage you to find faithful leaders who can walk alongside you in your journey.
Good summation on why Old Covenant Jerusalem was the harlot. Her physical destruction in AD70 is the outward sign that the Old Covenant ended [Hebrews 8:13 & 10:37 & 12:22 & 13:14]. Bring that good thinking home and become a Full Preterist. By the way, Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.'s writings helped me move from partial to Full. 🙂
preterist,,, thats some strange heresy for sure,,, i'd never fall for anything preterist. ,,,babylon is vatican city
@@user-yo9pv1ni6t Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It’s definitely a topic that stirs a lot of discussion among Christians. While preterism might seem strange to some, it’s important to note that there are different interpretations within eschatology, and many who hold to a preterist view do so with a sincere desire to understand Scripture faithfully.
It’s also worth noting that "heresy" is a technical term used to describe teachings outside the bounds of orthodox Christian faith. While some may use it casually, it’s helpful to reserve the term for core doctrinal issues as defined by historic creeds and councils.
Regarding Babylon being Vatican City, that’s a position associated with the historicist or futurist interpretation of Revelation. Others see Babylon as symbolic of a broader corrupt system rather than a specific location. These discussions are a great reminder of the richness and complexity of biblical prophecy, encouraging us to study diligently and remain humble in our interpretations.
If you'd like, I can point you to some resources to explore these topics further!
@@davehentschel6420 No I need no material,, God tells me what the scriptures mean,, so I am OK in that dept,,, ,,such as The antichrist siutting in the temple acting as supreme high priest etc,, everyone things Daniel's prophesy is speaking FUTURE,, when i fact most of daniel is in our PAST tense,, But his future tense that would be Antichosus Epiphanes 4th.. He was the antichrist as that time,, also most eschatologgy teaches **8When THEEEEE antichist comes** as IF it is one man and ONE only,, THE,,,not true JOhn says **there are MANYYYYY antichrists ALREADY NOW among us*** THe t truth is antichrist has been w us from the very beginnings,, Cain killed Able = antichris,, and even BEFORE that, Eve fell into a picaddillo (= major infraction falling to a desire for unordained sexual impulse which Adam fell in with) .... and as to your last comment that Babylon is more than the CC cult,,I agree, The RCC cul;t has been aound since Constintine, so all kings of europe went into realtions with her,,, This is why the RRC is called the MOTHER of all whoredom,, and her son is called protestantism a even more filthy whore than his mother... Everything we see on earth is given birth by this RCC cult, the US government could not exist w/o the whoredoms of the christian cult. Christianity is a super duper major major player within the vast antichrist beast system,, Yes heresy means a opinion, as you say outside the accepted orthodox opinion. But as history shows us orthodoxy is the real heresy that is satan. and his sons the amtichrist beast sytems. I HATE all eschatology,, that craploa is a bunch of bunk,, I am believe what God tells me through the scriptures via dreams and other methods. Yes I am as you surmise am gnostic Nice Day
But doesnt the Roman Catholic church also fit that same description?
You’re right. I stopped listening to pastors years ago. I get all my knowledge from reading the bible and letting Jesus and the holy spirit teach me.
No.
@Valhalla369 Though once popular during the Protestant reformation and for those who take the historicist approach, this view is the least defendable. Since the Book of Revelation presents itself as a source of encouragement and blessing to its original recipients, it seems unlikely that its primary focus would be the fall of an ecclesiastical institution centuries in the future. Does this interpretation not seem more tailored to the struggles of persecuted Protestants in the sixteenth century than to the challenges faced by first-century Christians?
@@leaderleader658 It’s great that you’re spending time in the Bible-that’s such an important practice! At the same time, the Bible itself emphasizes the value of learning in community, as God has given pastors and teachers to help equip and guide us (Ephesians 4:11-13). While I understand that past disappointments or negative experiences with pastors can make it hard to trust, isolating ourselves can limit our understanding and lead to misinterpretation. Even the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8 needed someone to help him understand Scripture. Pastors aren’t meant to replace your personal study but to partner with you in growing deeper in God’s Word. I’d love to pray for wisdom and understanding as you continue studying and encourage you to find faithful leaders who can walk alongside you in your journey.
Nah i’m good homie. You can listen to Kenneth Copeland or whoever you want. And tithe all the money you want into their pockets. But thanks tho!
It fit not. Sorry
What is your view?