Um, I love Imperial Javelins. They're one of my favorite units. This is my first time actually seeing the javelin militia's capabilities, and I'm floored at how they have such a unique and awesome ability with that charge. I can't believe they didn't carry it over to the imperial javelins, lol. Why not? Imperial Javelins have great melee capabilities on their veterancy line and it would fit so perfectly. Definitely hurts the heart to see this. This video definitely has peaked my interest in using this unit, though. Awesome content!
IIRC Imperials had a charge in like season 1, but it was considered too powerful and got removed or smth, idk. They are a fun little unit and their charge-throw knocks stuff down so you have shenanigans to play with :)
I'm glad you nailed the Veterancy line. That is the exact one I was using. The only thing you missed about the unit is that the javalins thrown during the charge knock down enemy units hit. This means you can essentially charge through some units since they will be knocked down and unable to defend or attack. I personally put every javalin doctrine on them to just be that much more of a support unit. Charge a unit of Fortebraccios and disrupt their brace so the rest of the team can push in, or charging into braced modaos to CC them for allied units is also a good tactic.
@@KnightStalker IMO, they could create a javelin/sword unit that could have a javelin charge and then engage in melee. Think it to be like the valks where u could swap bettewen weapons.
love the vid, haven't maxed these guys yet but almost, i have most end game units tho and love to mess around with random units like this n see how efficient i can be with them
I have some doubts, I would like to know if the Javelin Demesne would be better because it has nodes with increased ammo and (shot damage) and block formation on veterancy. Thanks for the video, you gave me another option besides pike militia ! :) keep the good content.
They are ok. They have more shots but no close combat ability so its a bit of a trade off. Im more comfortable with the Militia, personal preference :) Side note, both have had a small buff since this video was released
@@KnightStalkerThanks for your response. Just one more question if you can answer it: the two upped nodes shown in the video indicate increased damage (melee) but I'm still suspicious that they also increase the damage of the throw (I don't have the upped nodes) could you clarify this one :)
I haven't tried the demesne javs more than a few games yet so I dont have a good feel for them but the Jav Militia I would take over the Black Dragons any day. Black Dragons have piss poor aim, are sluggish and are terrible in melee even with their shield throw, they also dont have the knockdown utility of the militia
Now I want to see Demense Javelins 😉. But in all seriousness, I have loved Javelin Militia ever since beta. Imagine Imp Javelineers with a charge ability!? Probably bottom line as it'd be the same charge as the militia variant. Throw Javelins then actually charge. It'd make the bottom line actually viable
I'm really curious about the Dagger Lancer cav because their bottom vet line has "unlock charge" ability, I wonder if it's something like the united charge.
Dagger Axe Cav are honestly pretty darn bad. They don't perform well with the charge or their follow up - especially when comparing them to the amazing Armiger Lancers. I think you will be disappointed if you spend time to invest in the unit, but if you like the aesthetics, why not?
yeah no thanks. I was interested in them as a second green tier unit besides the arquebusiers but they seem very lackluster compared to some of the better green tier units. Them doing less than 1k damage with their charge against the archers really shows how useless that is and the 1k javelins themselves can only really kill 3 full health t4 infantry models if they all hit the same targets. Meanwhile ironcap swords have the mobilty to keep pounding the enemy with the short charge cd, pike militia has a lot of utility, and arquebusiers have more damage and more ammo for the same amount of models in the unit
I respect that opinion! With the Ironcap Arqs receiving a heft nerf this season, I kinda prefer these guys now! After playing with them a lot for the video I have really enjoyed them - don't forget that the throw when they charge knocks enemies down, you can mess up Fortes and all sorts of stuff with them - so they have utility. The ironcaps cant shuffle volley now and do 25% less damage to heroes, so I find they are kinda static and naff :/
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Key piece of info I demonstrated but didn't talk about is that when they charge-throw, their Javs knock enemies down! Can be VERY useful!
Um, I love Imperial Javelins. They're one of my favorite units. This is my first time actually seeing the javelin militia's capabilities, and I'm floored at how they have such a unique and awesome ability with that charge. I can't believe they didn't carry it over to the imperial javelins, lol. Why not? Imperial Javelins have great melee capabilities on their veterancy line and it would fit so perfectly. Definitely hurts the heart to see this.
This video definitely has peaked my interest in using this unit, though. Awesome content!
IIRC Imperials had a charge in like season 1, but it was considered too powerful and got removed or smth, idk.
They are a fun little unit and their charge-throw knocks stuff down so you have shenanigans to play with :)
This is probably late but, I would say to not take the 16% charge damage and unlock sprint instead, for faster resupply and positioning
Yah, this guide is pretty old now :) Things change
Your intro is soo good. Fantastic guide and I've never even seen this unit played. So cool
Thanks mate :)
Are you inspired to give them a go?
@@KnightStalker Without a doubt I started leveling them today :)
Thank you for this. I love javelins so much.
Glad you liked it, bit of a fun guide for a rarely seen unit :)
I'm glad you nailed the Veterancy line. That is the exact one I was using.
The only thing you missed about the unit is that the javalins thrown during the charge knock down enemy units hit. This means you can essentially charge through some units since they will be knocked down and unable to defend or attack.
I personally put every javalin doctrine on them to just be that much more of a support unit. Charge a unit of Fortebraccios and disrupt their brace so the rest of the team can push in, or charging into braced modaos to CC them for allied units is also a good tactic.
Oh noes! I did forget to mention that even when demonstrating it :/
Thats like... one of their key bonuses too - doh!
I wonder why they are the only javelin unit able to charge. The other should be able too even at cost of a veterancy point
IIRC the Imperials had a charge back in like season 1, but it was considered too powerful and was removed!
@@KnightStalker IMO, they could create a javelin/sword unit that could have a javelin charge and then engage in melee.
Think it to be like the valks where u could swap bettewen weapons.
ironcap archers next XD ... more seriously though another great video!
Ironcap archers are a lot scarier than people think they are :)
Quite tempting actually
that second ability is so cool
Right? Its what makes them useful instead of trash tier, really good and unique skill
@@KnightStalker hope that one day there will be a 4 or 5 stars unit with this kind of skill
Do one for the palace guards
I do love the melty bois!
Soon, got one more point on a node to do first and then I'll get onto it when I have time :)
love the vid, haven't maxed these guys yet but almost, i have most end game units tho and love to mess around with random units like this n see how efficient i can be with them
They were way more fun than i expected, and not terrible at all!
I have some doubts, I would like to know if the Javelin Demesne would be better because it has nodes with increased ammo and (shot damage) and block formation on veterancy. Thanks for the video, you gave me another option besides pike militia ! :) keep the good content.
They are ok. They have more shots but no close combat ability so its a bit of a trade off. Im more comfortable with the Militia, personal preference :)
Side note, both have had a small buff since this video was released
@@KnightStalkerThanks for your response. Just one more question if you can answer it: the two upped nodes shown in the video indicate increased damage (melee) but I'm still suspicious that they also increase the damage of the throw (I don't have the upped nodes) could you clarify this one :)
I would have to test it, which I havent done sorry
Great vid as always. I just wondering that in your opinion which low tier Jav unit is better jav militia, demense jav and black dragon jav?
I haven't tried the demesne javs more than a few games yet so I dont have a good feel for them but the Jav Militia I would take over the Black Dragons any day. Black Dragons have piss poor aim, are sluggish and are terrible in melee even with their shield throw, they also dont have the knockdown utility of the militia
My favorate green unit. U should do veterancy on both lines up to the charge and to the sprint. Do not elite them so u have both skills.
Great idea! Much faster to the point and back!
Now I want to see Demense Javelins 😉. But in all seriousness, I have loved Javelin Militia ever since beta. Imagine Imp Javelineers with a charge ability!? Probably bottom line as it'd be the same charge as the militia variant. Throw Javelins then actually charge. It'd make the bottom line actually viable
I have a video coming with some demesne javs in it, no guide planned yet though!
I'm really curious about the Dagger Lancer cav because their bottom vet line has "unlock charge" ability, I wonder if it's something like the united charge.
Dagger Axe Cav are honestly pretty darn bad. They don't perform well with the charge or their follow up - especially when comparing them to the amazing Armiger Lancers.
I think you will be disappointed if you spend time to invest in the unit, but if you like the aesthetics, why not?
good boy
You a fan of this unit? :)
yup
Gonna get some javs? :D
@@KnightStalker vidéo i like
Woodcutter guide
Haha now THERES an idea! :)
“Here is a guide on jav militia…This unit is not relevant”
People voted on it though.... I tried to forget but people kept reminding me :P
now do some watchmen guide
Watchmen guide: Wear the fanciest attire you have, stand in the open, get trebbed :P
Option 2: Push siege equipment lol
yeah no thanks. I was interested in them as a second green tier unit besides the arquebusiers but they seem very lackluster compared to some of the better green tier units. Them doing less than 1k damage with their charge against the archers really shows how useless that is and the 1k javelins themselves can only really kill 3 full health t4 infantry models if they all hit the same targets. Meanwhile ironcap swords have the mobilty to keep pounding the enemy with the short charge cd, pike militia has a lot of utility, and arquebusiers have more damage and more ammo for the same amount of models in the unit
I respect that opinion!
With the Ironcap Arqs receiving a heft nerf this season, I kinda prefer these guys now! After playing with them a lot for the video I have really enjoyed them - don't forget that the throw when they charge knocks enemies down, you can mess up Fortes and all sorts of stuff with them - so they have utility.
The ironcaps cant shuffle volley now and do 25% less damage to heroes, so I find they are kinda static and naff :/