Cancel Culture: Clarity for Christians
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- What is cancel culture? Why is it such a big issue today? How can Christians uniquely respond with grace and truth? This video is a sermon I recently gave at Calvary Chapel, Albuquerque. I carefully define cancel culture, explain why it is such a big phenomenon today, and offer hope for Christians.
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Dr. McDowel, I’m 57, I grew up hearing your dad on the radio, I’ve got his books, and I was introduced to you by pure coincidence on RUclips. This morning I prayed to God to guide me in mentoring a 19 year old pastor’s son who preached his first message last Sunday, a sweet kid, I then thought that I should suggest him resources to continue his growth, after that your feed appeared, I never knew of your ministry, I know you are the answer to my prayer. God bless you and your ministry, mightily 🙏🏾
Thank you for sharing. May God bless your efforts!
It's so wonderful that you have the grace to point out to Christians how guilty we are of the things we accuse others of. Far too often we cry "cancel culture" and never stop to wonder about the ways we've canceled others, as a community.
Thank you so much For your message! I love listening to you speak. It is always encouraging and a good reminder of what I need to focus on as a Christian.
Before rampant cc ..I had the boyfriend of my homosexual brother in law very nastily go behind my back to complain to my mother at my daughter's birthday party ..that "they" had been "not thanked!" (we were running out of time at the party venue ..I was crazy busy facilitating everything,... We were carefully making note of the gifts to organize to send thank you cards..but only saying general "thank you"s as each gift was opened to share).
After my mom told me he had scolded her..that she should tell me to not be so rude ..
I was flabbergasted. But out of polite family obligation ..I called to let him know I'd heard he had felt uncomfortable...
He was so very pretentious. Not humble at all. Not apologetic for hiS rudeness towards my mom .....he didn't thank me for my concern to call him ... He ended telling me I should not "shun" ...'anyone!' "
After that so puzzled me. Obviously I had not "shunned" them. I specifically included inviting them, and treated them no differently than anyone else.
Not to mention that I absolutely disagree with the concept of "not shunning anyone".
There are many people it is absolutely right and wise to "shun" ... criminals, pedophiles who seek to prey on my kids, liars ... Etc.
Ultimately it left me feeling very violated...and disgusted at his behavior.
Eventually I realized what was distasteful yo me was his prideful "entitlement" self focus.
That is the aspect of counter culture that is truly evil. The prideful "betterness" attitude that was first described in Satan when he rebelled against God's Authority.
That. Is what is spreading faster and faster in current culture.
Keep close to God. Keep in prayer for all these things.
Please pray for me?
And for my now very prodigal daughter.
My husband left our marriage not long after that birthday party. He'd been having an affair..that I would not learn about until months after he left me. My daughter was close to the Lord ..untill she suddenly went towards the world and pleasing her worldly father instead of her Heavenly One.
Let's just all remember to keep each other in Prayer.
🙏
Hot the nail on the head there. I'm sorry about your family. All of you will be in my prayers.
I'm so sorry
Sean, thank you for this message and sharing it. It is very convicting. I see the lashing out from Christians to cancel, and sadly, I do that all too often and need to remove the log from my eye. Thank you again.
you are definitely a grain of salt in the world. I'm thankful for you being here!!!
Thanks Lauren.
This is incredible. God is so clearly working through you, Sean. Thank you for your courage. I wish I could share this with every single Christian I know.
Thanks Elisabeth. I’m so glad it’s helpful!
Your concept of God is limited if you suggest this particular cult-like belief (and make no mistake, systems like religion ARE by definition cults) is the only way "God works through". If your litmus test is that he (Sean) supports your biased world-view, you are in fact limiting God and that would be the sin of pride.
I'm sure Sean is aware of this danger, and should take to heart to avoid his need for approval in social media to being honest, which I think he WANTS to be, but has a long way to go to get there.
@Jukka Salmelin I was going to ask if the video you linked was in any way relevant (maybe you just really wanted people here to watch it, although that seems kind of toxic to me), but then I realized something. God actually canceled a lot of people in the Old Testament. Like the time when he said the entire congregation had to stone someone because he picked up sticks on a Saturday. Or when he had a group of children mauled to death by lions for making fun of a bald person. Or when he struck someone with lightning for trying to stop the Ark of the Covenant from falling into the dirt. You could say that he's kind of the god of cancel culture, literally. It's also quite interesting which figures (particularly kings of Israel) he didn't cancel, though. Especially when you consider what kinds of acts he thinks are worthy of capital punishment (e.g. homosexuality, worshiping other gods, being disrespectful to parents) versus what aren't (e.g. rape).
Great show on Cancel Culture Dr.McDowell. Very educational.
Well done. Many lightbulbs turned on in my muddled head. Thanks.
This was so refreshing to hear. Thank you.
The woman wiping her Savior’s feet with her hair gets me every time. If we would only remember from what we have each received grace, we would see ourselves in our need in the lives of others.
This was such a good message. I love your heart for people. I often have to remind myself when my flesh rears its head (I too have erased my social media responses) that our fight is not agains flesh and blood. I end up in prayer for those broken hearted people responding out of anger, sending the unjust anger back on the non-human senders 7-fold that they would know Jesus is Lord.
Thanks Sean for always speaking with love, grace, and kindness without compromising God's Truth. I have learned alot from you in ways to talk to people on the issues of the day that inspire discussion rather than provoke arguement and division.
I'd rather be cancelled by culture than cancelled by God.
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Amen! I love and forgive you. God graces, loves and forgives you. We all experience consequences from that which we are forgiven, perhaps a consequence is being cancelled. We will be better not bitter for it when Christ is our Savior and Lord.
This shows the very confirmation bias that suggests a cult suggests THEY speak for God.
That kind of rhetoric is the very reason you ARE cancelled by God and Jesus talks about that Pharisee like behavior when he calls such behavior those of "evildoers" who He "never knew".
Amen, brother.
@@sheilasmith7779 and unfortunately get canceled by both.
Wow incredible talk. Thank you for the insight.
Sean has a true gift for speaking on issues like this, and for bringing opposing sides together. I really enjoyed this from start to finish. There are no easy answers, but I think we would all do well to listen to some of the points Sean made, and listen to each other more (and drop the Smart phone from time to time!)
You’re too kind. Thanks Selena!
You’re a mensch Dr. McDowell! I love how you love your neighbor like yourself in how you treat ppl especially atheists and other non Christians. As you may have read in the many other comments I’ve left on your videos I’m a Jewish man who got burned by so called Christians when I had embraced Jesus as a teenager because of my disability with Asperger’s Syndrome being judged and rejected in various churches so I dropped out of church in my early 20s and I’ve questioned whether or not Jesus is Mashiach or not and even at times denied that he is based off of Orthodox Jewish hermeneutics with the Tanakh but I’m addicted to your videos and I’m becoming more convinced about Jesus being Mashiach even though I reject organized religion after my negative experiences with it and prefer to just watch your videos than get involved with any churches
Thanks for watching Joseph. I really appreciate your encouragement and am honored to hear you enjoy the channel. Blessings!
תודה רבה אח שלי. ברכות יהוה ושלום לך
The transliterated Hebrew is Toda Raba Ach Sheli Barakot HaShem V’Shalom lecha meaning thank you my brother. Blessings of HaShem and peace be to you
Sean is such a good teacher.
Does anyone else think he looks like Tintin? 🤣
Haha, I’ve been told that before 😂
Hahaha yes he does
Outstanding discussion. Wonderful examples and so so very honest explanation. Made me think a lot, and really moved me. thank you.
I appreciate this message, Dr. McDowell. I was wondering how Christians should handle all this cancel culture craziness and you gave great answers.
The New Testament contains several verses of scripture which says ; the opposite of LOVE is FEAR.
Also, some of the most powerful, and enlightening versus of Scripture about HOW to TRULY LOVE = I are “The Love Chapters”, in second Corinthians, (which brings me to tears, EVERY TIME I read them.
The Pastor read aloud these beautiful versus on my wedding day, and it wouldn’t have been as special without them.
Sean., You were very Gracious to Drew… !
I was verbally abused by some of his supporters… So I know how you feel now… !
Our Lord God sees and knows our Hearts and Souls!
God Bless you, Sean🇿🇦✝️🇿🇦
P.S.. I did not respond., in a negative way… !
@@mystrength5640 Yet even Sean says in the video many (if not the majority) of so called "Christians" have less an idea of what Christianity is than the atheist. And confirms that far too many so called Christians don't behave in a manner that a Christian should.
So suggesting that it's "the other group" and not calling out your own backyard is the very hypocrisy Jesus talks about when he calls that kind of behavior "evil". Not talking about non-believers, but those who claim TO believe in Christ, but whose behavior is bad fruit (something else Christ suggests we are to look out for).
I was verbally abused by Franklin Graham's followers for weeks, even after I stopped posting, because I called him out on cancelling any company that showed even a hint of support for the LGBTQ. The hypocrisy on "cancelling" is astounding.
@@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv Amen! (irony intended)
@@desnock I drew the line when he tried to cancel the Girl Scouts (he really did). No one messes with my Thin Mints.
Amen Amen Amen! Gosh you can preach and teach greatly. Glory to our Father!!!
And this is why I love Sean. Why does America hate Christianity so much? Because we do not go forward with love. We go forward with judgment, avarice, hatred, greed, and selfishness. The exact opposite of what Jesus calls us to do. I totally understand the hostility to Christians because it's deserved hostility. We've done such a horrible job that most people don't even want to have an open line of communication. We can hold our beliefs and stick to them, and we can also be gracious and kind. I believe in Jesus, but I am so tired with Christianity. I continually strive to be gracious and kind and I wish more Christians would take up the baton with this. If you say you follow Jesus then you need to PROVE it. This needs to be made an active part of our lifestyle.
if i love sin, i hate people, if i love God, i hate sin and love people
I still struggle with loving the unloveable. The carnal struggle is real for people who haven’t experienced being born again of the spirit. 😞
@putjack, how exactly does one “love sin.” First of all, one needs to define what “sin” is. And then one needs to explain how loving sin results in the hate of people. I’m not clear on how that works. If one hates sin and loves people, then they are free to not sin and for everyone else that they consider to be sinners, they can mind their own business. That would be the best demonstration for the love of people.
@@lynnef9330…If you’re struggling with loving people who you consider to be unloveable, then clearly you are not getting the message of Jesus’ alleged love. The “carnal struggle” as you call it, is a part of being human. Being “born again in the spirit” doesn’t suddenly make one magically immune from sexual urges and attractions. All it does is make one suffer guilty feelings about their attractions. Nobody has to act on their attractions but when shamed to believe that their attractions (and by extension, their sexual fantasies) are somehow “a sin,” you’re left with a church full of sexually frustrated people who occasionally act out. I would suggest that people who concern themselves with the carnal struggles of others, read John 8: 6-7 and then promptly mind their own business (with the exception of known cases of child abuse in which not only the law but also just good sense, requires one to report).
@@TenMinuteTrips Wow, I tried to write down my reply, but because it has to do with these experimental vaccines, RUclips deleted it! I clearly can’t say what happened to my loved ones on this censored app, but my “carnal struggle” has everything to do my anger toward tyranny and nothing to do with sexual desires or perversions.
Excellent preaching. Thank you for your message.
Thank you for allowing God to speak through you.
Jesus was counter culture.
They tried to cancel Him.
He let them try.
0:00 Evergreen College, Bret Weinstein, Protests, Threaten Shouting, Lawsuit
2:43 Masterpiece Cake Shop - declined on his conscious 4:45 Livelihood threatened by _Cancel Culture_ 5:43 Offense is Unacceptable and "Never Again"
6:50 (A) Live in Fear (B) Do The Cancelling 7:43 (C) _Roleplay The Other Side_ 9:42 Misrepresenting Atheism
Criticism-Chain 11:03 "It broke my heart" "Cancelled By Christians"
12:33 Conversation
13:04 _How do we better love?_ 13:59 Living Rightly
15:04 "The Perfect Storm" 2 Catastrophes Crash, Coalesce
1. Mental Health Epidemic [many hurting people. Further with Virus.] 16:24 _Hurt People_ Hurt People 18:34 Multi-Tasking a challenge
building a tower of insults. "Don't tell me where and when I can speak!"
2.
21:20 Cancel Chaos, Christian Calm
24:54 Church Division - why not speak the truth?
25:52 Burn The Flag?
27:18 "It makes sense why you would see it that way given your experience"
28:45
3. Smartphone Over-Usage
29:35
1. Be obedient come what may
"Fear those who can destroy the Soul"
31:51 Christ and his word will never change 33:05 Justification is human nature
To build The Kingdom
God has Grace for You
35:54 Perfect Love Casts Out Fear
Fear is Selfish, Love is Selfless
37:52 "They get what they deserve"
43:05 Wisdom, knowing essential and non-essentials
44:35 Painful Moments are Love Oppurtunities
Sean your willingness to reach out and listen to other Christians who hold differing views, people of different faiths, and those who don't believe is commendable and speaks to your gracious character. Unfortunately cancel culture is built into Christian faith. If someone does not believe and accept Jesus' teachings to be true, then when they die, God cancels them for not having the same ideas and beliefs as he commands and uses the fear of hell to gain obedience.
Wise words from a wise man.
Looking forward to it!
This message was so good, God bless you for preaching the truth and standing for what is right. Thank you Jesus !!!
Jeremiah was the victim of cancel culture, however we will never be cancelled if we adhere to God Yahweh's moral standards. Thank you for the diverse examples - in showing our creativity such as cake baking - it is incredible that this simple act of hospitality can ignite the cancel culture.
I appreciate this post. It was enlightening and engaging; however, I disagree with some of the points you make. There are many things I agree with you. Canceling people or being canceled isn't fun, and Jesus and his disciples were canceled sometimes. What I disagreed with is that sometimes no matter how polite or how much one listens, one cannot control how a person responds. Some people are angry because they are angry. We live in a fallen world. Sometimes saying the unpopular thing is the right thing to do, and other times, it’s not appropriate to do. It’s complicated, but I know that truth at times is truth, and it is like pouring salt on an open wound. The other person will respond how they want to. The gospel to some is
“an aroma that brings death; to the other, an aroma that brings life. “ we just trust and pray that the Lord will help them understand through the process.
It’s had for many (including myself) to perceive and recognize grace, mercy and forgiveness when they reach boundaries! I think it’s because we have the idea that boundaries are symbols of rejection not realizing they are for protection to a physical, emotional and relational state of existence.
However, grace, mercy, forgiveness and even love has boundaries.
Great talk, always needing to learn and grow
Your best one BY FAR!
They will know us by our love
And also by "your" (speaking about most Christian dogma today by so called "traditional" perspectives) hate.
I want to be clear, I don't know if YOU personally love or hate others, I just know Christianity as a whole doesn't have a lot of "Christ" in it, and even Sean is forced to admit many, if not most, of folks he know know LESS about Christ than atheists, and far too many DO NOT act in accordance with "love your neighbor".
So you're kinda right - they will know you by your fruits, and Christianity as it stands today has much more idol worship and hate and magical thinking, than respect for Christian ethics.
This is why Sean is coming close to a grudging respect for "progressive" Christians who have Christ going for THEM, and "traditional" Christianity has a boatload of sin and corruption creating the need to find a scapegoat.
@@desnock don't judge a "religion" by it's abuse. Wanna know what Christians are supposed to be like, read the original sources: start with the gospels (Jesus' teaching) then the letters of Paul and the other apostles (new testament) admonishing the early churches for not following Jesus' teachings, and for a fuller understanding of God and why Jesus needed to die, read the old testament.
"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians: who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, walk out the door, and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable."
-Brennan Manning
Don't disagree with where you're coming from.
Most Christians in America don't read their bibles so they don't know what's in it or that they need to change their life. Instead, they remain in the "saved sinner" stage and never progress to a better image bearer of God.
@@craustin03 Well, of course you should judge a cult on its abuses. What an odd defense of evil!
You're not reading original sources when you read the Gospels, btw, scholars agree these were written long after Christ's life and so aren't first hand accounts.
Paul never met Christ.
The reason for atheism is religion which hides its evil and pretends that people who oppose it are the problem.
Christ had words for folks like you: Pharisees, to whom He said to them when they said "but did we not do these things in your name" and HE (Jesus) said "get thee from me evildoers, I never knew you!".
If religion (in this case Christianity) is the den of evil, Christ says to discern by its fruits. Raped children, hate and avarice is only a short list of the kinds of evil so called "Christianity" has visited upon the world. So have other religions with bad dogma. There is very little Christ in your cults, and Christ seems to agree - it's in those Gospels you suggest people read, but apparently you haven't?
TO wit, what is the false equivalence of Christ and Paul? Paul was a sinner that never met Jesus, and you imbue him with authority? What would you do if someone said they met Jesus on the road somewhere and then promoted morality?
THINK, woman! God didn't suggest we think like fools, but to critically think, and read (more than just what confirms your bias) and most of all ADULT.
God Bless.
This is a thoughtful message. The problem is when the very powerful cancel out those who don't agree with them, and it becomes a matter of standing up for the rights of those who come behind us. Yes love is always the right way, but I'm sorry to say the issue is more complex than what he's stating here.
Not really complex if you understand the meaning of "love."
I also saw that video. It was brilliant!!! 🥰
43:40 - that’s some Solomon level wisdom right there
Like your shirt!
Wonderful clarity on a difficult issue.
Thank you, Sean. Very insightful.
It DOES effect all of us.
I appreciate you Sean
i grew up where Perfect Storm was filmed! small world :)
🤔 How Powerful Is God’s Love!
Amen!
Prior to 1946 no Bible translations never used the word homosexual among many other words...
That's one thing that's clarifying for Christians.
The correct translation should be “same-sex sexual behavior” rather than homosexual.
Same-sex sexual behavior is also not a correct translation. You really need to study the Hebrew and Greek to come up with a better more accurate translation in English. They are out there.
@@gr8god4u I have studied it in depth and created a video response: m.ruclips.net/video/noXmiLzbhPY/видео.html
Just watch the recommended video by Sean and briefly commented on it at that post. I am amazed that people with doctorates doing research on these issues same to avoid so many books and resources. I would recommend that you and others check out the following resources: Gay Christian Survivors which has a website and book written by James D Cunningham; Changing Our Mind which has a website and book written by David P. Gushee; a book by Chris Glaser entitled Uncommon Calling; a book entitled What God Has Joined Together: The Christian Case For Gay Marriage by David G Myers and Letha Dawson Scanzoni.
Amen
Is there a discount or promotional code for the apologetics certification program? As mom of 4 boys, I'm very interested in learning more.
YES. It’s in the video notes. If you don’t see it, email me through seanmcdowell.org.
@@SeanMcDowell I found it. Thank you so much!
How long has Christianity canceled evolution in favor of young earth creationism?
I am so grateful for this healthy dose of Biblical wisdom! Thank you, Sean MacDowell!
You did a great job of explaining how the cancel culture game is played by all sides. I just have to tell you that the rude and militant stance of so many evangelical Christians towards anyone outside their belief bubble has turned me off to Christianity. I used to love wearing crosses and studying the Bible, and going to church but the discourse of more and more born again folks has become so arrogant, closed minded, and vicious I don't feel like identifying as Christian anymore. Just trying to hang on to Jesus somehow.
Thanks for watching and sorry you had that experience with evangelicals.
That's unfortunate. However, please try to understand that Christianity is not like a group you identify with. In your comment, you forgot to mention the most important aspect, the central point, which is Christ.
I'm a Christian that had terrible experiences in different evangelical groups. It took me years to find real believers and a healthy church.
However, guess what never had changed? My faith in God and his Word.
Be honest with yourself. Why did you read the Bible? Did you find truth in it? Did you pray? How so that people being mean at you made you believe less in that was written?
I understand that not having loving people around us and not having sound teaching really can lead us to be cold hearted towards the spiritual things.
But I assure you, if you still believe in God, even if having very little faith, He can heal your feelings and your mind and give you peace and provide loving brothers and sisters. They do exist, though I'm very aware sometimes it's hard to find a good church. I have moved overseas because of that.
Please, don't be like still, waiting for something to happen. Seek God in prayer, read the Bible again, any text you remember that gives you hope, start looking for a church, visit all you can untill you find one that receive you well, just avoid those that don't believe the Bible. There's hope and grace in God but don't turn your back to Him because of people being mean.
@@Luiz__Silva Thanks for caring.
God bless you exceedingly
Thanks be to Jesus for your wisdom brother Sean
Fantastic talk
Great speech
I really do get the point about how inappropriate the woman's response was in not wanting to help the pregnant women but at the same time I don't know that I feel too badly about failing those women who are hurting when their response to hurting is to kill a baby. It's like if there's a guy who is a rapist because his mother abused him when he was a boy, is your first instinct to sympathize and want to help him? If the women wanted help to get through the pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption, I'd be right there for them. Just like with the hypothetical rapist, if he was seeking help for the childhood trauma before he raped someone, you'd be a lot more likely to be sympathetic than after he'd committed a crime. I feel sorry for the woman being in a bad position, but I don't want to be pressured into offering her support and assistance to kill an unborn child.
Agree.
We must understand that justice, includes everyone, and the unborn are also, " everyone."
Misplaced sympathy.
Cancel culture is like the modern day version of mobs with pitchforks
Yes!!! 100%
Can you give an example of a Christian who destroyed the business or livelihood of his opponent?
Kristallnacht?
Does burning at the stake count?
Lynching, ala KKK?
To add to an ever growing list:
- medical professionals providing family planning services
- how about those children raped by priests?
- how about the anti-semitism practiced by most traditional faiths in Europe and American in the past few centuries?
- how about those folks today who suggest moral majority protests against pro-equality corporate responsibility (thinking the target fiasco, thinking the NBA and other corporate entities who oppose said faux-"Christian" organizations who organize to pressure anti-equality behavior).
That's just a start, shall I/we continue?
Did you Christians were burned in stakes?
The thing is: that had nothing to do with Christianity but blasphemous authorities using the name of God.
Also, you also seems to have missed the whole point of this message, which is exactly to tell Christians to be aware of not replicating such behavior.
And that's how we all know you are not here for any reasonable conversation but to show off. If you had listened, you would not ask such question to start with.
However, there's no problem. I'm sure all true Christians can show you grace and be sure not to try to cancel you.
You know what? Despite all tragedy that happened in history or on your life, there's still hope for an eternal and perfect life. All you need to do is to believe in God and repent from you sins. Here on earth you will have peace mind and hearth. Sometimes you have to seek a while but you can also find true people of God that will love and receive you, though we all know there's much falsehood out there. Still, truth is not less true despite all lies.
At around 7:30 you say it’s not good to become the canceler and that would have been a good time to point out the (often Christian) people harassing and threatening school boards and medical professionals over “CRT” or covid prevention strategies.
Wow
Does it mean we compromise???
Just answered my own question…..
this talk was a slow walk to false equivalencies and capitulation
there's Christians, then there's people doing the Will of the Father
I like the general theme and examples ….. on the other hand, I have to say that main stream evangelical Christians are also really good at perpetuating their own cancel culture on other sincere followers of Christ by trying to redefine them as un Christian. Even though the person themself has had personal spiritual rebirth deciding to follow Christ and lives daily trying to followJesus Christ. ( for example members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) I know it will be said that you follow a different Jesus than we do, I disagree although there are different details and definitions the sincere connection and conviction to God is the same or in many instances more. So how is it ok to cancel this group, and try to remove the label of Christian they willingly choose. Just because evangelicals are part of a historical majority that gives no actual authority. I just think it’s important to take this into account when discussing cancel culture in general.
Hi Stephen,
We as christians should be loving and gracious in our rebuke and corrections of others. This can can be an issue, I agree.
There are, however, false doctrines in the world. People may like Jesus as a person, but do not necessarily believe in salvation through Jesus. Or the divinity of Jesus. Or only one God. Or the soverignty of God.
Some believe in Jesus Christ, with wrong views on core christian beliefs. For example LDS - Latter Day Saints - or named mormonism have core believes that are not properly aligned the bible and Jesus Christ. With additional texts written after the bible that is viewed as more authoritive or equal to word, despite adding core beliefs contrary to it.
If one truly, sincerely, follows Jesus, they follow because he is the son of the one true God - who was and is and yet to come, with no other before him. Because believing Jesus died on the cross and rose again, we take up our own cross and walk as he did. Holding fast to the way, the truth, and the life.
If we believe in Jesus, yet do not believe in who he proves he is - or not believe in what he teaches - but instead follow doctrines contrary to both:
We are then not following Jesus. This affects the salvation of all the teachers and listeners of these groups.
It is biblically correct to not adher to false doctrines, or lead others away. As well as it is correct to critque these doctrines driven by people misleading or preying on others people. I do not have exact versus on hand, though Jesus and his apostles speak on this which I try and relate here.
One thing to say is this: If you were to read the bible
(note that some groups have changed/misappropriated the bible to match their beliefs in insincere versions; some good I believe are versions like the ESV, NLT, NASB NKJV,etc)
and you were not a mainline evangelical that believes in Jesus, would its teachings match the teachings you belief in?
Or would the bible match your group's beliefs at the core? A group sincere in following Jesus Christ? If so, then listen to the correction or rebuke fellow teachers are giving to stay true to the Word. If not, how so? Where did the contrary core beliefs originate? Is that origin more authoritative then the Word?
There are many examples of groups mixing biblical ideas - or people - and worldly passions or ideas. There are also people who show in grace (though others not so lovingly) the errors in a group's belief as it relates to Christ Jesus with biblical evidence backing these critques. This is not cancel culture. However, the way it is done can be an issue.
I would like to share a video that discusses several major groups and how they are different from mainline evangelism as you say, and why. I find it compelling. I hope you do as well:
Six Major Religious Groups Compared to Biblical Christianity - by Mike Winger and Allen Parr:
ruclips.net/video/M5T2nV77WR0/видео.html
@@andrewwoode Thanks for the reply, and putting in he time, effort, and sincerity. I have watched the video. It is a good defense of positions that are not new but are misleading specifically regarding the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The video is coming from a people who as nice as they seem both have direct financial interests in keeping their group happy, they get paid to preach a certain way, they did not come up with their theology by solo scriptura they went to school to learn that “correct” way of reading the Bible and they sell merchandise as well. They have no authority and their theology has over 1200 years of catholic theology mixed in it. Just because they say they reformed things who is to say that they reformed them correctly. Main stream Christianity still continues to have many debates and churches split from each other some ordaining or marrying homosexuals some not etc. There are institutional reasons that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are not accepted. Even though we agree on following Christ in so many ways. Yes we also differ but so do many other groups. What baffles me the most is how a group that has no authority somehow believes that they can define Christ in such rigid terms that were not even written down for hundreds of years and then exclude other Christians as not Christian. I guarantee that Jesus Christ’s own disciples and apostles did not define Jesus as a trinity or it would be in the Bible. So are they not Christians? If you are looking for sincerity and non bias maybe look to a group who does not pay their ministers. These men are highly educated sales people that mix sincere discipleship with their own interests. Just listen to how many times they laugh and sneer when they mention the other groups they deride. I don’t hear love. I honestly am ok with their trying to figure things out and with the good they do helping bring faith to many. That said, I resolutely reject the authority of any current mainstream Christian group as the ones that can claim to read and interpret the Bible correctly and call others non Christians, cults, or heretics. They may have a lot of things right but I can find fault with their theology as do many others hence there is no unity by just reading the Bible. But honestly I think people would be better off just reading it on their own then by just listening to another 500 year old theology that is fraught with its own issues.
@Dr Sean McDowell Brother, you referenced Rick Warren in this video. Do you endorse him as a preacher of the Word of God?
I ask in love and appreciate the contribution you make to my walk with the Lord.
hilarious question. maybe need to watch the video again? :)
@@ardbegthequestion 17:09 I only ask because I heard Frank Turek refer to him as “my friend “.
@@veganian2019 - I get it, just kinda funny. What if Sean said, "nah, Rick is a heretic., I just liked the quote..." :P
@@ardbegthequestion That’s what I’m kinda hoping! 🙂
What is it about people who are looking for others to do their thinking for them?
Jesus didn't say discern based on your false idols.
If baking a cake somehow violates his religion, why did he become a baker?
You admit that he didn't consider it a violation of his religion to bake a Halloween cake, and that was something that WASN'T part of his normal produciton.
But he DID bake wedding cakes. Until the couple was gay.
A wedding cake.
Nothing different about a wedding cake for Joe and Brain than a wedding cake for Meg and Luke. So the ONLY reason he refused to bake the cake was because he wanted to use his cake shop to be a bigot. if Joe or Brian had gone alone, and not mentioned their fiance's name, would the baker's religious rights have been violated when they delivered the cake and found out later? No. He would have baked the same cake either way. It's a WEDDING CAKE.
And then, when he got caught, he wanted to use Jesus's holy name as protection.
Blasphemy.
So he got what he wanted, he wanted to let everyone know that he wouldn't bake wedding cakes for gay people, and now we know. But he ALSO wants us to not judge him for being a bigot?
Sorry. Doesn't work that way.
Christians need to learn, that Christianity's promise that they can avoid all consequences for their actions, only applies in heaven. On Earth, we WILL look at their actions. And here, more importantly than "Are they Christian or non-Christian" we must judge "Are they a good person, or a bad person". The owners of Masterpiece cake shop could have chosen to be good Christians AND good people, but they decided not skip the good people part.
You got everything backwards.
First, it's not true that in order to become a baker one has to bake all kinds of cake. This is a matter of ethics and morals and applies to all sorts of professions. Christians have the Word of God as the truth in order to learn what is right and what is wrong. For instance, a Christian cop would catch a criminal because it is the right thing to do but if his superiors or even an evil law requires him to do evil it would violate his conscience and the truth.
You also got wrong the point about Halloween cakes. What he said is that the Baker would NOT bake those (or any thing that violates his faith for that matter) which makes for a pretty consistent case.
Yet your point of being "just a cake" is also invalid. Those were very special custom-cradted cakes. It was said the Baker had served gay people for years. The problem was with the message.
To be completely honest, you are proving the whole point of this video. What makes you so angry? A bake or whatever you think forcing people doing for you or someone else will not solve anyone's problems. You know who can help you and all those people taken over by rage? Christ can, if you would only trust him.
Now, I don't know where you are at as a person but I am pretty sure you would not want to apply the same standard you are trying to apply to the Baker to yourself. Being obliged to serve someone else at the cost of being sued and losing your job.
Also, you probably didn't listen to this message completely but there's no talk about not being judged or not getting the consequences of our own acts. I think you assumed such ideas because you presume the video was about some talking points against gays, leftists, and what not. You're wrong and that's good news.
You know about what this message was about? Grace. That's what you can find in Jesus Christ. Can you imagine being forgiven by all your sins? I'm not talking about not facing the consequences here in the earth like you said yourself. I'm talking about not facing the eternal consequences of each time you chose to rebel against your creator. And having peace of mind and heart. And have a loving family still on earth. There are many christians out there ready to help you and receive you. I'm very aware there are many false Christians as well so it can get a little confusing at first. But if you seek God, love truth, and out some effort one it, you can surely find true brothers and sisters and a healthy church where you can feel the love of God operating.
@@Luiz__Silva didn't say they had to bake all kinds of cake. But they DO bake wedding cakes. So there was no excuse for them refusing to bake one for this couple.
And they decided to use their religion as an excuse to discriminate against gay people. Really find that disgusting. Christians need to stand up and say that most Christians are BETTER than that.
Why would anyone want to buy from a business using their religion as an excuse for bigotry?
It's not cancel culture It's the consequences of their actions. They put their hate of gay people above their business and above trying to be good people. And in the process they smeered the good name of Chrisitans everywhere.
Not all Christians are bigots. And not all of them blame cancel culture for the consequences of their actions.
I hope you open your mind and go out and find a better church. It IS possible to be both a good person and a Christian.
@@Luiz__Silva Jesus never said to discriminate against gay people. Never said anything about gay people at all. The bakers were lying when they said their religious convictions prevented them from baking a wedding cake for this couple. Straight up lying.
God may forgive their lies and their hate, and even using Jesus to defend their lies, but on Earth it should be no surprise to them that they are treated like the bigots they are. Can't say they're being persecuted for being Christian as millions of Christians manage to do a better job of being good people than them.
If you want to spread your flavor of Christianity, start by making its members people to admire, not by defending the worst of the bunch.
Yes I don't really understand why making a cake should be so sinful. It's not like he was being asked to marry one of them or make matching sugar phalluses or something! As Sean said, this was actually his chance to demonstrate that christians can be compassionate and loving toward sinners and break down barriers.
Nothing has done more damage to the integrity of our faith in modern times than the notion that the ideal Christian puts feelings over loyalty to God.
We can't simply smile and listen without pointing people to truth.
Failure to take a position on substantive issues creates confusion before believers and non-believers alike.
Clarity is the most honest and loving approach possible.
I'm sorry but sometimes I have to feel something to believe in something as the Bible is very confusing to me as much as I try to read it...
@@nicholascelia3692 Sir, have you tried starting with John, as he explains the love of Christ, then continue through the rest of the Gospels? Just a suggestion. Also asking God's help to understand before you start reading? Blessings to you, sir.
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Worship my idol...
I feel you slipping away.
was it GMS?
free speech
Rick Warren is a secular humanist. Why quote a fake pastor? Now I doubt the truthfulness of this pastor who is speaking.
I'm sorry but why would we listen to a man who can't even tie his own shoes. #cancelled
The confusion of the Bible makes Christians very violent and opinionated... Old Testament God compared to the New Testament God I'm a Christian, I'm heterosexual, and I believe that a gay person loving another gay man with sincere love is not a sin
Seek the Lord and ask the Holy Spirit to teach you. Our God is not the author of confusion. The Bible is very clear that the old and new testament are the same loving, forgiving, God who is slow to anger.
@@Rabbit_Person I disagree sorry the Old Testament God does not compare to the New Testament god... would Jesus ever kill children
@@nicholascelia3692 Jesus appeals to the God of the Old testament and claims they are One. Revelation says Jesus is going to return with the sword and judge the wicked. He will throw those who disobey is will into the lake of fire.
@@Rabbit_Person thank you🙏❤
@@Rabbit_Person thank you🙏❤
You and all theists should be cancelled.
Canceled? I don't think so. You can be lgbtq and Christian. You can be yourself Sean!
Yes, my 'true self' is sinful and wicked like the Bible say's, that's why I need his forgiveness, grace, and mercy.
@@robw2486 I'm sorry if you can't be yourself. That's your choice to make.
@@dansaber8435 - That is everybody's true self. It's not pretty, it's actually vile. That's why we need a saviour.
@@robw2486 so you know good and evil as God. What happened to Adam and Eve after they found out?
@@robw2486 Isn't that how you are manipulated by others, Rob? The idea that you are vile? You indeed may be vile. Presuming others are vile is a belief, not a fact. Think about that. It's one thing to suggest none of us are perfect, but this desire to regard yourself as a worthless ultimately isn't salvaged by saying your religion says you're a piece of shit and any emotionally questionable "conversion". At the end of the day God doesn't act, YOU do.
So choose not to be worthless, that doesn't require a deity. The idea that some external force is necessary to make you worthwhile is HOW religion fools you.
Cancel you guys!
I think Christianity is evil but i have so much respect for Sean.
Sean is practicing biblical Christianity. This is what a true follower of Christ acts like.
@@Rabbit_Person i didn't say i don't find his beliefs dangerous and morally repugnant. I said i respect him for his willingness to listen.
Would you please go into details as to what you mean by Christianity and what do you mean by evil? :)
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*BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM*
Thanks to Saul aka Paul the Feroci0us W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus WARNED about, it's Christianity / Christians making a 🚩 *LIAR of Jesus of the Bible* till the end of times. The Bible testifies 🔥
1)
✔️ Jesus: THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
✖️ Christians: NO. The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (The Trinity) is the true God.
2)
✔️Jesus: NO payment needed, NO Jesus died for us. Just repent sincerely and the Merciful God (THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER) forgives.
✖️ Christians: NO. Salvation comes by the blood of Jesus and his dying on the cross
3)
✔️ Jesus: Keep the Laws and the commandments if you want eternal life
✖️ Christians: NO. Eternal life comes by faith in the sacrifice of Jesus
4)
✔️ Jesus: Do NOT neglect even the smallest laws
✖️ Christians: NO. Those laws are unimportant
5)
✔️ Jesus: I was sent ONLY for the lost sheep of Israel
✖️ Christians: NO. Jesus came for us all, Jesus came for all of mankind
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Now I expect that you'll make a desperate run to point number 5 or any other than point number 1 because you pretty well know within yourself that the collapse of the false faith aka Christianity is gonna be far quicker if you went to point number 1. 😊