The real fate of MS Estonia?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @Sulaco505
    @Sulaco505 3 года назад +206

    I've said this in another video that claimed a sub sank the Estonia but it would be highly implausible that this happened. The night the Estonia sank the the seas were 13-20 feet and high winds of 35-45 mph. No submarine would be on the surface in those conditions unless it was in distress and had no choice but to surface or sink. And given the fact that submarines ride relatively low in the water if such a situation had occurred the Estonia would have just ridden right over the top of the submarine or the bulbous bow on the Estonia would have just bashed it out of the way.

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc 3 года назад +29

      And if a sub collided with Estonia, where's that sub?

    • @Yassified3425
      @Yassified3425 3 года назад +15

      @@Vs-py2ey How do you tow a sunken submarine?
      There is no proof of this and no radars before the sinking of the Estonia showed any surfaces submarine.

    • @jandoerlidoe3412
      @jandoerlidoe3412 3 года назад +4

      A collision with a surfaced sub is highly unlikely to have happened, if a sub was involves, it would have been a sub attacking the Estonia...

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 3 года назад +15

      problem with the sub theory is that the front of the bow is not dented in any fashion. which automatically debunks the idea.

    • @SgtBeltfed
      @SgtBeltfed 3 года назад +15

      Such a collision would either badly damage or sink a submarine. If it was sunk, then some navy would have been missing a submarine, with crew, and that would have been noticed. If it was simply badly damaged, then it would have turned up somewhere with major damage, which also didn't happen.

  • @idkwhattoputhere123abc
    @idkwhattoputhere123abc 3 года назад +42

    I loved how you put the Viking Mariella and Silja Europa

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  3 года назад +4

      thanks :)

    • @DjMokkis
      @DjMokkis 3 года назад +2

      GTS Finnjet should of been there too :)

    • @MysticianLuna_VG
      @MysticianLuna_VG 2 года назад +2

      @@DjMokkis and Silja Symphony and Isabella (now Isabelle)

  • @rudewalrus5636
    @rudewalrus5636 2 года назад +34

    If the Estonia struck an obstacle like a sub with enough force to damage or tear off the bow door I think the crew would have noticed and reported a collision. How fast did the ship go down? This scenario seems unlikely.

    • @PlanetEarth790
      @PlanetEarth790 2 года назад

      @X-MarcosTitanic2 or should i said 1000 seconds?

    • @momoy9159
      @momoy9159 2 года назад

      @X-MarcosTitanic2 The ship went down in 40-50 minutes, bro.

    • @canaldopcds4605
      @canaldopcds4605 2 года назад

      Olha cara a cabine não tinha visão da proa

    • @bjrnpedersen1627
      @bjrnpedersen1627 2 года назад

      @@momoy9159 More like 30 minutes

    • @Mere-Lachaiselongue
      @Mere-Lachaiselongue 10 месяцев назад

      My history teacher showed us a video regarding the Estonia disaster 2 years ago and in it the OFFICIAL Swedish commission showed "explosive" damage to metal parts.

  • @mrhardlinezone951
    @mrhardlinezone951 3 года назад +212

    Swedish filmmaker Henrik Evertsson dived into the wreck of Estonia with a submarine robot and discovered an unspecified injury on the hull of the ship. The published footage shows a large dent on the side of Estonia and a hole that is four metres high and 1.2 metres wide.
    AFTONBLADET

    • @pops7249
      @pops7249 3 года назад +2

      so, its a sub?

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 3 года назад +20

      Torpedo and sub, Maybe. The lorry with stuff on car deck was real reason as said. Some Day we know, must be people's out there who's have much to say..
      Some few's already opened case little bit. It's no secret anymore that Estonia ship had many time's "secret military cargo" on board going to Sweden and then last link was to USA using plane.
      I know, this is difficult thing many ways. But murder on The same ship is going to judge at this year.. Sally became just one Hell boat of death.. i wait when that case became "Hot", now is just accident and closed. At 90's some people's say IT must burry by cement or asphalt.. grazy idea if it "just go to bottom of sea".. was there soviet niclear stuff? If I remember right, they have missing some 48 nukes, different types. who knows where those are, nobody.

    • @jussi798
      @jussi798 3 года назад +12

      @@jannejohansson3383 Torpedo? what the fuck are you talking about?

    • @jussi798
      @jussi798 3 года назад +1

      @@jannejohansson3383 Okei

    • @simba_mzee
      @simba_mzee 3 года назад +22

      @@RealDrSex What a powerful fantasy the amateur debunker has. Estonia has never changed its position, there is a lot of underwater filming for all the time it rests on the bottom. The bottom in this place is absolutely flat, the ship has nowhere to slip. On what pro-government website did you read this nonsense about a cliff?

  • @olzyolzmobile
    @olzyolzmobile 3 года назад +54

    The makers of videos like this seem to miss the detail that the lights are off on the command bridge when driving at nighttime. Having full lights on = outside vision is severly impaired.

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  3 года назад +10

      I know yes, i had to change textures, but it was too much work at this time 😄

    • @req6385
      @req6385 3 года назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @angieroxy7550
      @angieroxy7550 3 года назад

      Some of the Titanic Simulations that I've seen have always shown the Bridge Lights to be on.

    • @olzyolzmobile
      @olzyolzmobile 2 года назад +3

      @@angieroxy7550 Which would seem to imply that the makers don't know much about driving a ship at night time, but as it is in reality kept very dark on the command bridge it would be difficult to visualize what is going on on the bridge in a simulation or a film. I've worked 15 years (1980-95) for the Viking Line ferry company that operated Estonia earlier 1980-90 as "Viking Sally", I''ve also been on her command bridge and could notice the awkward fact that she was built so that you could not see the ships "nose" with the visir from the command bridge . My father was a captain for the same company until his retirement in 1983. So it is very well known: no lights on the command bridge at night time. It's a practical question of visiblity.

    • @NorwegianCobain
      @NorwegianCobain 2 года назад +2

      ​@@olzyolzmobile You have absolutely right sir! I'm interested to ask you which vessels where you on duty? and in what period on these vessels?
      Greetings from a maritime student in Norway!

  • @kirkkek
    @kirkkek 3 года назад +114

    The screams of terror give me chills

  • @edwineriksson2882
    @edwineriksson2882 3 года назад +124

    This is very well done, it's the best I've seen in a long time

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  3 года назад +5

      Thanks Edwin 😊

    • @edwineriksson2882
      @edwineriksson2882 3 года назад +9

      @@caljucotcas I believe more in this video than what the investigators say. They'm probably lying about the cause

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  3 года назад +6

      @@edwineriksson2882 i agree!

    • @primeking3285
      @primeking3285 3 года назад

      Bruh

    • @primeking3285
      @primeking3285 3 года назад +1

      Why would they lie?

  • @MacMelmac
    @MacMelmac 3 года назад +20

    I'm pretty sure it went down with the stern first, the bow rose up in the sky a bit, stern hit the bottom, and the rest sunk down. It's crazy to think that the ship is almost twice the lenght of the depth she is laying on.

  • @PiggyBonkers0309
    @PiggyBonkers0309 3 года назад +10

    *Cough, Cough* It's not ''Faith of Motor Ship Estonia'', It's ''FATE of Motor Ship Estonia''.

  • @dussofucko1648
    @dussofucko1648 3 года назад +42

    This is so well made holy crap nice job!

  • @midgetspinner306
    @midgetspinner306 3 года назад +124

    They found 2 new holes in the wreck yesterday

  • @matsopelle
    @matsopelle 3 года назад +13

    You can literally find pictures on the internet of the salvaged bow visor. There is no deformation on it indicating of a collision what so ever.

    • @evanburgess8428
      @evanburgess8428 2 года назад +2

      Yes, on it's right side it has quite a beating.

    • @Cjx0r
      @Cjx0r 2 года назад +2

      Ironically looking up "Estonia salvaged bow visor" uses those exact pictures to prove the opposite. Looking forward to (edited)

  • @midgetspinner306
    @midgetspinner306 3 года назад +112

    There was NATO training near the accident and there could have been a submarine that sunk Estonia, and this explains why England signed that they weren't inspecting or lifting up the ship from the water when they aren't even a part of the nordic countries, because England is a part of NATO and they could have been the reason why Estonia sunk.

    • @MrKimas
      @MrKimas 3 года назад +11

      Can't agree with this because it would be stupid on UK's part if they had part in this disaster to sign something so far off their shores. They just showed solidarity. More likely it was a Russian sub because Estonia did carry, old Soviet arms disguised as civil trucks (which they did several times already and they were warned by the Russians that they know what they are doing). The now open vehicle ramp proves it that Sweden tried to hide the real truth. Let's be real. Why would anyone need to bury a shipwreck if they didn't have something to hide?

    • @randomdumbassguy
      @randomdumbassguy 3 года назад +4

      @@MrKimas true the flag looked like a russian navy flag i agree

    • @maxsabre5466
      @maxsabre5466 3 года назад +16

      @@MrKimas oh yes, the Russians are always to blame for everything. Did the Russians impose a moratorium on diving and filming in Estonia? If it were a Russian submarine, they would have been shouting about it all over the world

    • @MrKimas
      @MrKimas 3 года назад +12

      @@mikeycrackson Because Sweden bought Soviet military tech that was left in Estonia after their independance. Sweden and Estonia were warned by the now Russians that they know what's going on. All the countries that signed the agreement besides maybe UK didn't want the public to know that around 900 people died because of a military purchase.

    • @midgetspinner306
      @midgetspinner306 3 года назад +2

      @@MrKimas ok ye this makes more sense

  • @3chel3
    @3chel3 3 года назад +8

    The sister ships bow doors also broke off in heavy seas. It was a design fault not nonsense about a submarine collision.

    • @Petri_Pennala
      @Petri_Pennala 3 года назад +1

      Have you seen the document "Estonia Mullistava löytö"

    • @lassehaggman
      @lassehaggman 3 года назад +1

      Exactly. Shoddy construction, captain's mistakes and risks taken, the storm. That was all that was needed. Case closed.

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions 2 года назад +1

      Theories like this only exist because people refuse to believe that such a small series of mistakes could result in such a catastrophe. Fact of the matter is that most disasters are the result of small things.

    • @MysticianLuna_VG
      @MysticianLuna_VG 2 года назад +1

      Diana II (retired) have that faulty bow visor that she almost sank

  • @timokuusela5794
    @timokuusela5794 3 года назад +43

    A cruise ship is like a christmas tree, and there are lookouts on the sub if it travels surfaced, but at that night the heavy seas would have made the sub roll so much that the crew would have all been seasick. Perhaps in the Hollywood World this could happen as in the video, but not in the real world. Sub sonar hears everything, and in the surface, both Estonia and sub would have seen each other in their radar screens and radars would have alerted of collision. All the sub crew sleeping, and the boat in autopilot? Not likely. Sure enough, if just surfacing, there could be a blind moment for both, it has happened before.
    The hole in the hull is still puzzling; if the visor did not sink right away, but was thrown by a wave against the hull, that could cause the hole. If the damage is clearly from outside in, something heavy and sharp could cause it, not smooth-sided sub. The front diving plane may or may not be sturdy enough to rip the hull enough. Let us hope the real thruth will come to light...

    • @27Dmurphy
      @27Dmurphy 3 года назад +4

      It has been already confirmed that the visor isnt heavy enough to cause that kind of damage to the ship.

    • @Haldei
      @Haldei 3 года назад +1

      They rammed it on purpose

    • @mysterywalker1621
      @mysterywalker1621 3 года назад

      Yes, this would not be they it happened. It would more have been a raming i the side of the ship... but how knows...

    • @Petri_Pennala
      @Petri_Pennala 3 года назад +1

      Sen objektin pitäisi painaa ainakin 100 000kiloa jos oikein muistan ja siinä keulassa olisi varmasti merkkejä niin isosta törmäyksestä

    • @crissyb00
      @crissyb00 2 года назад +4

      @@Haldei Wow, you are a genius
      Da, let us ram a multi billion dollar submarine into a ferry that has slightly pissed us off by moving obsolete soviet arms.
      Yup that makes perfect sense

  • @VeikkausMaister
    @VeikkausMaister 3 года назад +30

    Quote by Fox Mulder: “The truth is out there.”

  • @nimpula
    @nimpula 3 года назад +9

    I hope the real reason of this horrific case are gonna be revealed ASAP... with the radical examination. As always, awesome video! 😄❤️

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      So what is the real reason?

    • @AKQJIO1978
      @AKQJIO1978 3 года назад +2

      it was bad weather and the bow visire came off bc it was poorly designed. end of story.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      @@AKQJIO1978 You are wrong. The visire was subjected to high heat. Over 1200 C, it has been confirmed. They dont know but it points to an explsosiotn.....

    • @AKQJIO1978
      @AKQJIO1978 3 года назад

      @@elefteriosmouratidis can you please link this information.

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions 2 года назад +1

      @@elefteriosmouratidis "it has been confirmed". By who? What's your source?

  • @Nomannium
    @Nomannium 3 года назад +7

    I think it was an explosion from the inside. Explains the deformation of the visor plate and the burn marks as well the hole on the hull pointing outwards

    • @nidejijixiao
      @nidejijixiao 3 месяца назад

      it was the severity of the waves and storm that caused the visor ti detach and the ramp to fall

  • @rikuhytti
    @rikuhytti 3 года назад +6

    Finnish newspapers Iltalehti and Ilta~sanomat reports that the wreck of Estonia has been breached and that the ramp to the vehicle deck is completely open and torn away from the wrecks bow.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      And the problem is??

    • @rikuhytti
      @rikuhytti 3 года назад

      @@elefteriosmouratidis There is no problem. Just more unaswered questions to what originally happened and what was transported aboard Estonias vehicle deck during Estonias final voyage.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      @@rikuhytti But its not strange taht the ramp is torn away after so many years at the botton and alomst upside down

    • @rikuhytti
      @rikuhytti 3 года назад +1

      @@elefteriosmouratidis That is the weird thing because during the last investigative dive in 2019 the ramp was completely closed.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад +1

      @@rikuhytti No it wasnt completly cloesed. It never was completly closed. We have to understand the ramp was damaged and after 20+ yeasrs gravity does its thing. Noone removed the ramp. And why should they? To do what? Go in to the car deck? To find what? Everything is a mess in there. You cant find anything

  • @Comrade_Peavey
    @Comrade_Peavey 3 года назад +6

    The problem with this theory is that there's no way in hell that sub didnt know it was on a collision course with another vessel. Even in peacetime, modern submarines always utilize passive sonar, which should've easily detected the propeller revolutions. And when surfaced, subs typically deploy their ESM mast which would make detection of a ship even easier. Given the alignment of the two vessels in your animation, the Estonia wasnt in the subs baffles and so should've been spotted. Most glaring of all, no sub would be travelling on the surface during a storm. Subs hardly ever travel on the surface to begin with, and doing so in a storm would make no sense as it would slow their speed and cause the sub to roll even more than a surface vessel would

    • @mitte90
      @mitte90 3 года назад

      @@maltimulti1919 the sub theory is not needed and there are little evidence.. planted bombs are more likely

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      @@maltimulti1919 there is no main theory that Russia sent a submarine. Thats is bullshit. Soviet didnt exist in 1994...

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw 2 года назад

      @@maltimulti1919 they would send cargo ship for that operation

    • @Mere-Lachaiselongue
      @Mere-Lachaiselongue 10 месяцев назад

      @@vipvip-tf9rw The Estonia did previously ship weapons too before the disaster.

  • @heat8443
    @heat8443 3 года назад +22

    What about hole to the right side?

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 3 года назад +3

      And how about the side what no one can see?? Much indrestig guestion.

    • @lennox_nzl4607
      @lennox_nzl4607 3 года назад

      @@jannejohansson3383 and how about the fact is cant have just "appeared"?

    • @idk66613
      @idk66613 3 года назад

      An truck in Estonia did it

  • @BBP749
    @BBP749 Год назад +3

    what are the chances a submarine hits a ship

  • @orenalbertmeisel3127
    @orenalbertmeisel3127 3 года назад +4

    I don’t think alternative theories like a submarine collision or top-secret military cargo exploding caused the accident. If you ask me everything points towards the visor.
    Here are some factors to consider:
    1. The visor was found far away from the main wreckage, meaning it broke free before Estonia capsized.
    2. Footage taken weeks before the accident shows a visor that is in bad shape and poorly maintained.
    3. The hole that was discovered on Estonia shows the force that created it came from inside the ship, not outside.
    4. The hole was probably created by explosive decompression. Similar thing happened when the MV Derbyshire sank. It’s caused by air escaping under intense water pressure when a ship sinks.

    • @plixnite3960
      @plixnite3960 3 года назад

      You are wrong, swedish goverment are responsible for all this horrible

    • @normalperson-x7o
      @normalperson-x7o 2 года назад

      @@plixnite3960 proof ?

    • @plixnite3960
      @plixnite3960 2 года назад

      @@normalperson-x7o everything points at the Swedish goverment. this is discusting.

  • @Brecconable
    @Brecconable Год назад

    Probably the best video I've seen on the Estonia.

  • @Trenton-om9qs
    @Trenton-om9qs 2 года назад +14

    I still think the ships bow door broke off in the rough sea. It was like 30 foot seas with 40mph winds.

  • @Ins3ctiz0id
    @Ins3ctiz0id 3 года назад +10

    If the sub sank the Estonia, wouldn't there be a wreck of a sub too?

    • @natureboyy3
      @natureboyy3 3 года назад

      Probably not, a submarine is very strong. I think it would survive a crash like this. But I'm not sure.

    • @The_Duggler25
      @The_Duggler25 3 года назад +1

      @@natureboyy3 ya you might like to think that but a ship like that would cut a sub in 2 and not even notice it.

    • @henriksandbacka9442
      @henriksandbacka9442 3 года назад +1

      @@The_Duggler25 Isn't it literally the opposite? Subs are built for naval warfare and Estonia was a civil ship in rough shape. A sub would completely trash Estonia?

    • @The_Duggler25
      @The_Duggler25 3 года назад

      @@henriksandbacka9442 subs while strong in there own right, are also fragile especially if hit in the side like that. That ship has far more mass and weight and with that bow, would cut right though the sub.

    • @lassehaggman
      @lassehaggman 3 года назад

      @@henriksandbacka9442 Estonia weighed thousands of tons and was going ahead at full speed. It would have smashed a sub into pieces.

  • @nevioberki9894
    @nevioberki9894 3 года назад +26

    Someone mentioned about a sub not going on the surface in bad stormy weather, even I know that...then this is inaccurate, in that case it was a yellow submarine

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 3 года назад

      Some one tell me that bottom of vessel goes under that sea surface.
      If we want fugg a fly, sub's arent white too, usually.
      Argh!

    • @nevioberki9894
      @nevioberki9894 3 года назад +3

      @@jannejohansson3383 det är lättare på svenska eller hur :)

    • @xfanaticsurfer7419
      @xfanaticsurfer7419 3 года назад

      That's not true

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 3 года назад +2

      thats only true for big submarines (they tend to dive below the storm) but the small ones used in the Baltic sea sometimes surface during storms for safety reasons
      but the Estonia did not hit a sub

    • @MickyMaus40
      @MickyMaus40 3 года назад +2

      @@harrie205 we willl see. They are looking into it why the ship sank again.

  • @arwo1143
    @arwo1143 3 года назад +6

    Oh, come on people
    Skip the damm UBoat story for once
    The damage is across the Fender OVER the waterline
    Also…. That UBoat from your animation would have been cut in half and immediately sunk if that was what happened

    • @aslavdogg
      @aslavdogg 3 года назад +1

      Thats not a U-boat man, i dont know wich submarine it is, but trust me it isnt a u boat, and the modern submarines are way stronger than the ww2 ones

  • @svilponis
    @svilponis 3 года назад +3

    Was this submarine of Styrofoam? Any submarine that size would have caused much devastating damages in case of direct collision.

  • @NorwegianCobain
    @NorwegianCobain 3 года назад +6

    No wonder why they can't see a submarine visual when M/S Estonia's bridge is in full light!

    • @gabeitch920
      @gabeitch920 3 года назад

      Dude wtf did you expect

    • @KarlReimerGodt
      @KarlReimerGodt 3 года назад +1

      How is Helge Ingstad ?

    • @gabeitch920
      @gabeitch920 3 года назад +3

      @Christopher Wyman if the submarine thing is true why didn’t the sub crew come forward?

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад +2

      They do HAVE radars....

  • @jiipeez
    @jiipeez 3 года назад +1

    There are over 100 sailors onboard a submarine. There is no way that they all would stay quiet about what happened. We would know by now.

  • @brianAS79
    @brianAS79 Год назад +1

    Better design is necessary. If the ship's bow is damaged or falls off, water should not be able to enter the ship

  • @Rogge73
    @Rogge73 3 года назад +6

    Submarine? c´mon! she was in heavy waves, probably hade fatigue issues in her construction, hit a vawe hard, tore of the visor, and then the door couldn´t handle the impact forces from the vawes...the damages on the hull was of course made from rocks when impacting the sea bed! End of story.

    • @davejohnson3474
      @davejohnson3474 3 года назад +5

      But if you watched the documentry they found no rocks. But like they said they were smuggling military equipment which the government denied but then admitted to it lol. Somethings suspicious about the whole thing regardless but we'll never know

  • @AF-nc2fc
    @AF-nc2fc 3 года назад +12

    This video isn't accurate. According to the survivors, when she sank she swung upright ("like a church tower"), then she plunged.

    • @jakubzn1143
      @jakubzn1143 3 года назад +5

      Jesus are you critic or what?

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc 3 года назад +3

      @@jakubzn1143 Yes.

    • @panzerivausfg4062
      @panzerivausfg4062 3 года назад +1

      @@AF-nc2fc Estonia never sunk upright!
      She listed to her side and sunk, stern first

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc 2 года назад

      @@panzerivausfg4062 No. She sank bow first. Bleeding Christ.

    • @panzerivausfg4062
      @panzerivausfg4062 2 года назад

      @@AF-nc2fc She never sunk bow first. She listed on the right and sunk stern first. This channel also made an animation about it, some days ago. You're ignorant

  • @CrispyCross-
    @CrispyCross- 3 года назад +6

    Best ship animator

  • @dancingcarapace
    @dancingcarapace 3 года назад +2

    This still wouldn’t explain the massive hole divers found in her hull.
    My personal theory is it was an old WW2 sea mine that hadn’t been disposed of properly, since we know that this is true for the Baltic. Nobody bothered to properly screen it for the mines.

    • @mitte90
      @mitte90 3 года назад

      this was on a well used shipping route it unlikly a mine would be left un discovered there.. and i dont think any mines was deployed in the region at all during ww2. surviving testimony talk about a explosion but a mine would be discribed more distinkly. why lie about a ww2 mine?

    • @supersquats
      @supersquats 3 года назад +1

      Was just away to post exact same thing. In one if the world wars i cant remember which they apparently laid just under 200,000 sea mines in the baltic sea. It could be posdible that a small one struck the side of the ship causing the mystery hole and in the process the shockwave that went through the hull jolted the visor hinges and damaged them to the point they coukd no longer take the pressure from the waves.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад +1

      @@supersquats hålet skapdes av att Estonia träffade botten. Inga minor här inte

  • @rasosm3569
    @rasosm3569 3 года назад +3

    Ive heard rumours that the following day of Estonian disaster, near port of Sweden a Submarine with a injury was brought to fix..Same day when Estonia sank there were Nato training in that sea, with multiple submarines.

  • @alpm95
    @alpm95 3 года назад +5

    Seems legit, but how does it explain the large hole on the side? In what way must the submarine have shredded the Hull open? So much force?

    • @rafa5361
      @rafa5361 3 года назад +6

      Probably the propeller hitting the hull after the sub turned away

    • @narzereth
      @narzereth 3 года назад +4

      The submarine (if did acually hit the estonia) was at full speed when it happened. It smashed into the bow visor causing the loud bang. Then still being at full speed smashed into the right side again opening the large hole(s) and then the rest is history

    • @idk66613
      @idk66613 3 года назад

      An truck in Estonia did it

    • @martinsv9183
      @martinsv9183 3 года назад

      @@idk66613 Haha :) If it exploded maybe.. Just running a truck into the metal of a ship will just crash the truck.

  • @filipwillner1584
    @filipwillner1584 3 года назад +17

    If this was the case Estonia would float for a couple days instead of sinking in under an hour as it did because water can’t go from the car deck and under because of a water tight barrier the boat would hav rotated 180 degrees and stay afloat upside down for a couple days and they have found holes under car deck.

    • @callmeadmin
      @callmeadmin 3 года назад +3

      The problem with big ships is that with the size, pressure on trapped air increases. The weight of the ship structure compresses the air, and volume of air reduces along with reduced floating capability. With only 1 bar pressure, air volume is reduced twice.

    • @pederthistel6523
      @pederthistel6523 3 года назад +2

      The sub probsbly hit further back, the ship sank si quickly because of the water that was pouring in the cabin area under the car deck, if the water only came pouring in through the bow and overfilled the car deck, it would have stayed afloat upside down for days as u say, but since it sank at once, the deck under the car deck had to be filled with seawater wich it did so if it really was a submarine that made the hole it makes sense that it sunk at once

    • @legopirat17
      @legopirat17 3 года назад +2

      The bow doors didnt just fell of so quickly actually. Once they did water rushed in the cargo area. There were no watertight barriers. Just one huge space for wheeled cargo.Also roro carriers were designed differently back then. Nowadays they dont have such curved hulls, but they are wider for added stability. Waves were also bigger as shown in animation, weather was awful that night.

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 3 года назад +2

      Or pressed on half of original volume and weight is same. 1000 Litres = 1Kg @ sea level. 10.000 L Air under 10m of water weight 5kg, over 5Kg when water is salty. That's is then more heavy when It's sinkin and more water goes in and air squeezes, If I'am right about that.

    • @robbiehoekstra7727
      @robbiehoekstra7727 3 года назад

      @@callmeadmin How do you get pressure on air? Please explain with calculations in this case?

  • @garethmurtagh
    @garethmurtagh 3 года назад +9

    If this is what happened then what happened to the sub? Given the disparity in size between it and the Estonia it would likely have suffered severe damage. Subs have been sunk in the past by such collisions, even if it survived it would need several years in dock to be repaired. It’s presence would be difficult to conceal and it would be off its navy’s active strength for that length of time.
    I’m not saying the scenario is incorrect, the cause of the hole in the Estonia’s side needs to be determined, but this is the thing that occurs to me on seeing this.

    • @KarlReimerGodt
      @KarlReimerGodt 3 года назад

      Dunno,
      when chasing enemy submarines
      under water, collisions could easily
      occur.
      Therefore a submarine needs to be
      build tough, to not being sunk by "accident".
      They possibly have hardened stern
      to be able to ram a submarine.
      Due to the torpedo outlets possibly
      not practicable.

    • @aslavdogg
      @aslavdogg 3 года назад +5

      In fact, that submarine was found in a NATO port a few days later with HORRIBLE damage, being repaired.

    • @yoooyeee9300
      @yoooyeee9300 3 года назад +1

      @@aslavdogg you know the name?

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад +4

      @@aslavdogg no that is bullshit. Had nothing to do with Estonia

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад +3

      @@KarlReimerGodt there is no way a sub would survive if it got hit by Estonia

  • @TopMusic-rf3mt
    @TopMusic-rf3mt 2 года назад +1

    This is unrealistic, it hardly seems to me that the front sash was torn off and the bulb was not even injured. The sash was torn off, because of the large area, it slowed down in the water and the ship tore through the skin on it. Moreover, the submarines have a rubber noise-absorbing skin, its traces were not found on the found ferry sash.
    This version is fantastic, nothing more.
    ---
    If Estonia crashed into a submarine, it would be the same as flying into a vertical wall by car.
    Most of the submarine is under water, and the submerged body will be very difficult to deploy such a ferry as shown in the video. Estonia would have to overcome the water resistance preventing the U-turn of the submarine. Estonia would have reared up.

  • @Martin-wn5rc
    @Martin-wn5rc 2 года назад +1

    There are lot of kinds of ideas about how the accident happened but no one knows it 100% And there will never be a answer

  • @E.V._Estonia_Graza
    @E.V._Estonia_Graza 11 месяцев назад

    I finally got around to watch the 2nd season of the Estonia documentary, it came out really late as it does. How did you react when you saw YOUR clips there?

  • @pspsvan65
    @pspsvan65 3 года назад +13

    If you think that Estonia collided with a submarine, you live in a fantasy world, it is impossible

    • @JohnAnderssonTV
      @JohnAnderssonTV 3 года назад +3

      Then please explain the massive impact injury on that side of the ship

    • @pspsport6505
      @pspsport6505 3 года назад +2

      @@JohnAnderssonTV Vadå förklara, när den ena idioten efter den andra kommer med påståenden som är rena fantasierna så är det nog inte jag som ska förklara mig. Hur kan man ens tänka tanken att en u-båt körde på och sänkte Estonia. det skulle aldrig kunna tystas ner och det skulle även ha inneburit att den u-båten sjönk. Bara för att någon har varit duktig och gjort en animerad filmsnutt betyder inte det att personen ifråga vet ett skit om Estonia. Det är en ren fantasi

    • @shipspiros3766
      @shipspiros3766 3 года назад

      Mayday mayday SiljaEuropa VikingMariella.....

    • @walkerd1602
      @walkerd1602 3 года назад +1

      Why not? The Titanic hit an iceberg in the middle of the ocean, why can’t the Estonia have hit a submarine? Just because something is improbable, doesn’t make it impossible.

    • @JohnAnderssonTV
      @JohnAnderssonTV 3 года назад

      @@pspsport6505 Tänkte mer på ögonvittnet på Estonio som direkt efter smällen sprang upp däck och såg något i vattnet. Så omöjligt är det absolut inte. Teorin är att den var rysk och dem är faktiskt en nationsstat som historiskt sett vart bra på att tysta ner saker

  • @emilsgrinvalds1733
    @emilsgrinvalds1733 2 года назад +1

    Another theory is that there where russians if i remember and they had a drove a truck onboard the ship and they blowed the ships visor and thats the reason why it sank but ofc thats just a theory but in inmages you can see places where you can see a places where something exploded

  • @FirstnameLastname-ks4ln
    @FirstnameLastname-ks4ln 3 года назад +7

    Awesome animation !!

  • @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868
    @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868 3 года назад +13

    This so sad :(

  • @johnfarrimond3813
    @johnfarrimond3813 3 года назад +4

    So hard to believe that rough seas over stressed the bow door causing a failure? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Not everything is a conspiracy.

    • @mrh2o465
      @mrh2o465 2 года назад +1

      Yes it is. And you saying it is not just proves that. Don't know why, but that's how it works. Now if you'll excuse me, I have an unexpected Ufo encounter at noon.

  • @edvardsulmanis628
    @edvardsulmanis628 2 года назад +1

    Maybe just speculation: but on ship was some military or secret russian stuff * stolen* from them, to ship to sweden, later on Usa. Thats why it was important to stop it. Also hole in ship maybe blown out later underwater to take stuff out?

  • @maonparas
    @maonparas 3 года назад +6

    They are diving there right now

  • @hammerblockREAL
    @hammerblockREAL 3 года назад +3

    why did i do this 😂 i sayid "hello. i am under the water! pliz help me. ooohhooho"

  • @callmeadmin
    @callmeadmin 3 года назад +4

    the problem is, that all the known military submarines are of dark grey color.

    • @serc7553
      @serc7553 3 года назад

      xD

    • @tytmoothare
      @tytmoothare 3 года назад

      No. There are submarines partly white.

    • @marko1216
      @marko1216 3 года назад +4

      @@tytmoothare But No submarine Would me on the surface during a stormy weather

    • @tytmoothare
      @tytmoothare 3 года назад

      True

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 3 года назад

      @@marko1216 thats not true especially in the baltic sea

  • @LebneneWaFalastine
    @LebneneWaFalastine 3 года назад

    This is completely wrong. the bow visor was removed by the Swedish authorities after the ship had sunk. That the bow visor had come loose is something Carl Bildt stated before someone had examined the ship. A ship does not sink because the bow visor comes loose, and a ship does not sink in 10-15 minutes, regardless of whether water leaks in from the bow visor. It is the ramp that seals up there and not the bow visor!

    • @anssil5640
      @anssil5640 3 года назад

      No, that is wrong. The bow visor separated from the ship before the sinking and it was found 1,5 kilometers west from the wreck itself. The wreck was found lying on the seabed at 120 degrees angle and the bow ramp was at closed position. The visor, however, wasn't there. Only but two of the hinges, that keep the bow ramp in place was broken and there was additional structural damage to the ramp beside the broken hinges. 2021 investigation has concluded that the ramp has now been separated from the ship and is lying there next to the bow. The car deck is now completely open. The wreck has been moving since 1994 due to the water flow and is now in 132 degrees angle (almost upside down) and has gone few meters deeper. It is likely that the movement and the change in the angle of the wreck has broken the two ramp hinges that were left.

  • @Goalkeeper32-c1f
    @Goalkeeper32-c1f 4 дня назад

    This is not what happened. It was because of the storm this tragic accident occured. The ferry never should not have left the port that night.

  • @Atåget-u4z
    @Atåget-u4z 3 года назад +5

    The shipvsank because pf the water heights and the shipvbow didnt tolerate the high waves so it broke off

  • @Estes3ceps
    @Estes3ceps 2 года назад +1

    If there was a sub and they were both on the surface and experiencing heavy waves. The sub could have caused more damege on the back because of the heavy waves and with out of control

  • @BIBIWCICC
    @BIBIWCICC 3 года назад +4

    Wasn’t a Russian kilo it was a US Los Angleles class. It went into Faslane sub base and had a complete replacement crew waiting for it.

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 3 года назад +3

      Hmm, are you saying that "LA" was watching that Estonian's cargo project and ewerything went wrong? I think you don't mean that "LA" put holes to Estonia and sink it? Tell more or url, thanks.
      1 second ago

  • @Aleksandr017
    @Aleksandr017 3 года назад +7

    A title like this made me wonder if Estonia's faith is Christianity or paganism 😅 leaving the grammar nazism aside, that animation is full high quality there. Doesn't matter if it actually happened like this or not, your work is superb!

  • @cringebaby2558
    @cringebaby2558 3 года назад +2

    What you don’t realise subs aren’t invisible. That sub would’ve been demolished, not to mention I could easily figure out a way to sink the Estonia with out leaving a a scrap of a clue for investigators

    • @lennox_nzl4607
      @lennox_nzl4607 3 года назад +1

      There was a huge hole found in. The wreck

    • @cringebaby2558
      @cringebaby2558 3 года назад +1

      @@lennox_nzl4607 the wrecks been there for along time and it would move around on the sea bed twisting and bending forming these wholes

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад +1

      @@lennox_nzl4607 hålet kom till när Estonia träffade botten..

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions 2 года назад

      Not to mention you'd feel if you hit something. The Titanic was a massive ship and only grazed the side of an iceberg, yet practically the whole ship felt the impact. A smaller ship like Estonia hitting a submarine head on would have caused enormous ruckus.

    • @cringebaby2558
      @cringebaby2558 2 года назад +1

      @@Omega4Productions literally yes!

  • @emypineda307
    @emypineda307 2 месяца назад

    sub: WATCH OUT BRO estonia: IM TRYING

  • @narzereth
    @narzereth 3 года назад +3

    she is in amazing condition and can be raised. for some reason the estonian and swedish government decided to not raise it. if they raise it they can recover the bodies with ease, repair the ship and possibly use the boat again.

    • @joakimwohlfeil
      @joakimwohlfeil 3 года назад +9

      No, she is absloutely not in good shape, raising the ship would be extremely complicated and expensive and forget any thought of her sailing again....

    • @Thunderchild-gz4gc
      @Thunderchild-gz4gc 3 года назад +1

      What's left of the bodies at this time?

    • @KarlReimerGodt
      @KarlReimerGodt 3 года назад +2

      That would likely require several special riggs.
      Kursk was cut in halves, before hauled to surface.

    • @martinsv9183
      @martinsv9183 3 года назад

      @@joakimwohlfeil Not more complicated than what has been done before.

    • @joakimwohlfeil
      @joakimwohlfeil 3 года назад

      @@martinsv9183 No, sorry but you are wrong. Nothing is in the end impossible. But it's extremely complicated, extremely expensive and with new technology you can investigste the wreck in a way not possible in the 90ts and likely find needed facts

  • @Mihkel_Jakson
    @Mihkel_Jakson 3 года назад +2

    Давным давно уже понятно, что его взорвали, чтобы скрыть контрабанду.

  • @patrickgothmann7027
    @patrickgothmann7027 3 года назад +1

    Wenn es so gewesen sein sollte müsste man überall auf Werften nachforschen nach irgendwelche U-Boote wegen Beschädigungen repariert worden sind . Denn bei so einen Aufprall müsste das U-Boot auch stark beschädigt

  • @gabe6943
    @gabe6943 3 года назад +4

    I don’t think so actually

  • @KasperiVonSchrowe
    @KasperiVonSchrowe 3 года назад

    No, there were no marks of collision in the bow vizor or bulb. Why is it so hard to accept the report of the accident?

  • @mariselojeda0810
    @mariselojeda0810 3 года назад +4

    What we learn from these Estonia animations: the bow visor is very fragile

    • @proactiveomnipresentvessel6569
      @proactiveomnipresentvessel6569 3 года назад

      Honestly whoever thought that “bow visors” were a good long term concept anyway?

    • @shipsability
      @shipsability 3 года назад +1

      @@proactiveomnipresentvessel6569 Estonia had huge problems before her voyage. Bow visors are 99.9% safe and very useful! (You can get where that 0.1% went..)

  • @elefhant2742
    @elefhant2742 2 года назад

    now im no conspiracy theorist but i do think high seas were not the reason the estonia sank. every survivor said they heard a loud bang before it sank and they wouldnt have reacted if this loud bang kept on being heard. also the divers were strictly regulated on where to go and after a dive that proved nothing in a investigation the government declared the wreck a marine grave and prevented diving or exploring the wreck for answers despite the requests of many families of the dead people onboard. also the ships bow visor broke up but it sunk stern first, now the free surface effect could be an explanation for it though. i think it might have transported drugs because some ocean liners do/did that and then estline had a emergency scuttle thing in case drugs were found and the rest is as we know it. now again i am no conspiracy theorist and if you have counterarguments for these claims then i do want to hear them and i would much appreciate it if you replyed with them with respect.

  • @chuckbucher4120
    @chuckbucher4120 2 года назад

    Sorry that this is totally inaccurate. There was no sub. There would have been obvious signs of destruction from an impact on the front hatch had this occurred.

  • @pmcg97
    @pmcg97 3 года назад +1

    What happened to Captain Avo Pith ? 🚢🕵️‍♀️

  • @emanuel82
    @emanuel82 2 года назад +3

    Estonia sank very fast. That is a main problem with the investigationreport. Im not sure there are any other passengerships in modern times that have sunk as fast as Estonia without being hit by a missile or such.

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions 2 года назад

      Her bow was basically open to the sea and her RORO design allowed the free surface effect to take place, which gave the water free access to the full length of the ship. Couple this with high swells and the failure to notice the problem early on, and it's no surprise the ship sank as fast as it did.

    • @cajunoutdoors9994
      @cajunoutdoors9994 2 года назад +1

      It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to say how she sunk so fast. Her bow visor broke off while heading into heavy seas at 14 knots and a deck without watertight integrity that runs the entire length of the ship was directly behind it.

    • @mrh2o465
      @mrh2o465 2 года назад

      Herald of Free Enterprise.

    • @emanuel82
      @emanuel82 2 года назад

      @@mrh2o465 Some similarities with Estonia. But appearently people had time to get out of the ship. On Estonia there was almost no time to get out.

  • @aaremagi9142
    @aaremagi9142 3 года назад +8

    Väegade loogiline animatsioon.
    Muidu, poleks see laevukene, nii kiiresti uppunud.

  • @robertmolldius8643
    @robertmolldius8643 3 года назад +5

    Tja, det borde ligga en u-båt på botten i närheten av var bogvisiret bärgades i så fall.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      @@maltimulti1919 nej stämmer inte. Man har alltid sagt att en ubåt träffade visiret.
      Det är först nu efter Dplay dokumentären några tomtar påstår att en ubåt träffat estonia på sidan

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis 3 года назад

      @@maltimulti1919 Jag lutar mer på att det är botten som orsakade hålet. Ubåt, torped Visir sånt är inte möjligt

  • @luckyboy407
    @luckyboy407 3 года назад +3

    Them screams how disturbing. They should of recovered the body's at least give them some dignity.

    • @Jonathan07ta
      @Jonathan07ta 3 года назад +1

      Yeah because thats gona be easy

    • @Oliver0504
      @Oliver0504 3 года назад

      @@Jonathan07ta Actually yes. There were divers in the shipwreck after the disaster that could have easily brought the bodies up (their words). But instead they got orders not to.

    • @Boypogikami132
      @Boypogikami132 3 года назад

      @@Oliver0504 because it would be against law to leave the ship (and its contents) to be left alone because it turned into a grave

    • @Oliver0504
      @Oliver0504 3 года назад +2

      @@Boypogikami132 The divers were there way before the law even existed. The government stopped them from bringing bodies up for some unexplainable reason. They were told exactly where to go, and where not to. If it was against the law, they would not be in or even near the ship at all.

  • @pereinarolsson3928
    @pereinarolsson3928 3 года назад +2

    Our democratic governments could not fool us like that...could they???

  • @Fireman834
    @Fireman834 2 года назад +1

    Это уже ближе к истине,похоже на правду! Если и была подводная лодка,то мы никогда не узнаем. И никто из стран не возьмёт на себя ответственность...

  • @vladkutepoff5586
    @vladkutepoff5586 2 года назад +1

    Скорее всего мы никогда не узнаем всей правды про эту катастрофу. Правда погребена слишком глубоко.

  • @jonasemilaksnes
    @jonasemilaksnes 3 года назад

    There is a much bigger wreck in the baltic sea and where many more People lost their life but sadly no one talks about it. Its name is Wilhelm Gustloff

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  3 года назад +1

      Yes, i have video of it also

    • @jonasemilaksnes
      @jonasemilaksnes 3 года назад

      @@caljucotcas yeah i think I watched it a while ago

  • @natalialabun4066
    @natalialabun4066 2 года назад

    The ocean is to blame. The MS Estonia was meant to sail near shore not in the ocean

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  2 года назад

      Baltic sea is not a ocean

    • @natalialabun4066
      @natalialabun4066 2 года назад

      @@caljucotcas it’s a sea then?

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  2 года назад

      @@natalialabun4066 like name says, Baltic Sea

    • @Rantasalmi47
      @Rantasalmi47 Год назад

      no the literal idea of Estline (owners of Estonia) was to make trips form estonia to sweden and got paid a f ton to do it. the estonia was never meant to be on shores. the onlyt time that ever really happened was with Wasa line.

  • @polandarmyplintk
    @polandarmyplintk 3 года назад +2

    If Estonia colided with russian submarine then Ask russians and then they should say "what submarine there was no submarine"

  • @Gripenace
    @Gripenace 3 года назад +8

    well, there should be a missing submarine resting at the bottom somewhere too then?

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  3 года назад +3

      its unbreakable

    • @aledthomas2470
      @aledthomas2470 3 года назад +6

      The conning tower on a submarine is made to break through ice so it could easily survive such an impact

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc 3 года назад

      It wouldn't surprise me if there is.

    • @მიშაბიბილეიშვილი
      @მიშაბიბილეიშვილი 3 года назад +5

      This kind of crash isn't a problem for submarine due to its structure. It would survive easily without serious damage.

    • @yewisemountaingoat528
      @yewisemountaingoat528 3 года назад +9

      @@caljucotcas "its unbreakable" Omg. An *unbreakable* sub?? Please sign up for any military shipyard because they'll pay you a fortune if you can design an unbreakable sub. You're a genius. Listen. No sub is anywhere near unbreakable. Even the most advanced nuclear subs have imploded at merely 400 meters of depth.
      Seriously, what kind of an answer is "its unbreakable" ?? How old are you? 14? What are your qualifications? Are you an engineer which works with ship building? What makes you a self-appointed expert in such matters?

  • @ansonoko1741
    @ansonoko1741 3 года назад +1

    Im from finland and i know alot of people that lost their friends and family in that tragedy leave like for the people who lost their lived in that tragedy

    • @DaequanFox
      @DaequanFox 3 года назад +2

      bruh what, you want likes cause someone died?

  • @rlbliss5630
    @rlbliss5630 2 года назад +1

    It be like that sometimes…

  • @toomasnuuter638
    @toomasnuuter638 3 года назад +2

    Yes, but its not real, they shoot them by torpedo! Russian shoot because they graber them very important tehnolodgy

  • @Chiuluonday
    @Chiuluonday 3 года назад

    Wait where is the 4 meter long hole?

  • @CrownFactor
    @CrownFactor 3 года назад +2

    I really love your content ❤️ #subscribed

  • @tomasmuller5839
    @tomasmuller5839 3 года назад +3

    You are kidding. For me the investigation of Jutta Rabe and others are the most plausible scenario.

    • @swaghettiyolonaise900
      @swaghettiyolonaise900 3 года назад +2

      Yes, but if you look at the documentation and investigations by Henrik Evertsson, who reported that it was very unlikely that the explosives were the reason for the 4m hole in the bow, as well as the reports of an important eyewitness who claimed a white, large object Having seen it only opens up more options as to why the ship sank. But we all firmly believe in one thing: It wasn't an accident. So my condolences to all relatives. So that the truth will come up soon.

    • @tomasmuller5839
      @tomasmuller5839 3 года назад

      @@swaghettiyolonaise900 Yeah, it was no accident and Sweden needs to hide something.

  • @Cheva-Pate
    @Cheva-Pate 3 года назад +4

    Maybe......... Estonia just sunk…?
    Alien’s
    Submarine?
    “Bomb”?
    Maybe just an accident, happen before...
    Do you think that when Estonia hit the bottom, damage to the hull is impossible?

    • @MikeMaris
      @MikeMaris 3 года назад +3

      I'm not an expert but based on the descriptions of the newly discovered hole, it doesn't seem to be from the ship potentially landing at an angle. There would have possibly been several more much like on other wrecks. The hole looks more like a collision since it is at a very localized area and half of it is pushed in.
      Also, a collision theory isn't necessarily as insane as aliens. Considering there have been many weird measures to not recover the remains of the passengers and no measures taken to resurface the ship. In addition, a very unheard-of plan was made to basically bury the ship, which could make sense if there was no option to recover remains or the ship. Considering how the very first divers even said that recovery could have easily done, this might imply that certain politicians did not want to face the political turmoil this would have brought.
      I just want to say that I'm no Swede or Estonian, I'm just a Greek who has grown up in Illinois. I don't know the politics behind this event or how different political parties are treating it. I basically just learned of this horrible tragedy and have seen a few documentaries about it. You potential could be right about the hole and the collision theory could be wrong. I honestly do not know, but what I do know is that I hope the local governments put an effort to go recover the people that were lost that day. It is truly a tragedy that families could not properly bury their loved ones. In addition, I hope that doing this it will allow for better exploration of the Estonia which will bring a better understanding of the tragedy and there will be no need for theories.
      If you have read all this thank you and I welcome a response as I am curious about what you think!

  • @majcinex83
    @majcinex83 3 года назад +2

    Tak mogło to wyglądać 🤔
    Od początku rząd mógł wiedzieć o tym wszystkim
    Ciekawe czy prawda wyjdzie na jaw

  • @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868
    @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868 3 года назад +2

    Very nice video I like it

  • @Attomicc076
    @Attomicc076 3 года назад +1

    You made a longer one to be sure but uhh I meant significantly longer...still good though

  • @christof1192
    @christof1192 3 года назад +2

    Oh no my Kosatka sunk in GTA V 😬

  • @jakkek238
    @jakkek238 3 года назад +1

    Good video! Anyone knows how thick metal u-boats are made of? Would this kind of crash leave big damage to u-boat? Just wondering this mystery...

    • @joakimwohlfeil
      @joakimwohlfeil 3 года назад +5

      Well, Subarines are built of thick but soft flexible steel to withstand pressure, Estonia was 16000-ton ice class 1A meaning she was built in hardened steel for bouncing of ice. Estonia would have sank the U-boat in seconds, while Estonia would not have suffered much damage. But you can forget the speculation. Uboats never surface in a super trafficed area in the middle of the night in picth black (if the commander don´t want to commit suicide). Adding to that a subarine would never have surfaced in the kind of weather that was during that night.

    • @KarlReimerGodt
      @KarlReimerGodt 3 года назад

      Well, the water/air tanks are usually in the sides.
      If holes in the tank, would an Uboat sink then ?

    • @joakimwohlfeil
      @joakimwohlfeil 3 года назад +1

      @@KarlReimerGodtThat was the case with older submarines, today the ballast tanks are more integrated. However, yes a collision with a submarine and Estonia would in 90% ended with a sunken submarine. But you can just forget the whole idea as there are so many factors making a collision with a submarine unlikely.

  • @user-fg1tl8jm7m
    @user-fg1tl8jm7m 3 года назад +2

    Amazing animation...!

  • @MichaelChiklisCares
    @MichaelChiklisCares 3 года назад

    Avenger accidentally used is laser beam eyes , the visor came off and Thor had guilt about it , that is why he was fat awhile.

  • @cirkular2042
    @cirkular2042 2 года назад

    dont you think that the sub wouldve been spotted by at least one person as it dragged across the ship? I mean, be reasonable here, no subs were reported missing that day, so its highly unlikely.

    • @Rantasalmi47
      @Rantasalmi47 Год назад

      if it collided then yes people did saw it. theres actually a high chance that a survivor saw it and has talked aobut it multiple times. its just not sure if it was a sub

  • @drownplayz
    @drownplayz 2 года назад +1

    awesome!

  • @theshiphistorian5820
    @theshiphistorian5820 3 года назад

    If you ever release a Estonia video game, I'll be sure to play it.

  • @aa12edd
    @aa12edd 3 года назад

    Why they haven't found the wreck of the submarine. Underwater surveys were extensive during the search of bow visor.

  • @mrp3263
    @mrp3263 3 года назад

    Why couldn't the hole have been caused by impact with the ocean bed?

  • @Biggie_Cheese470
    @Biggie_Cheese470 2 года назад

    The bow shield failed to protect from water and started flooding the car deck with water