I believe the main series will have it continue.. Since if the Supreme could STOP gimmi in a different universe, it could also be able to DETECT it happening and where it was. With him appearing later... During the FINALE with Lila.. She was SCARED of what she saw, whom I think is the Supreme.
I also have something to add to it: Kwamis can only use their powers based on their lips, like the wielders they also need to say certain words. When summoning Gimme, Tikki and Plagg had to kiss in their true forms, since their lips were sealed, neither works
They didn’t kiss. They did a small dance similar to fusion dances in Dragon Ball. There was no kiss involved. It would also be weird if there would be one because for 2 reasons. 1: all Kwamis are siblings (confirmed by the fact that they refer to each other as brothers and sisters) 2: Tikki and Plagg are twins halves of the same being. (Also confirmed because of Gimmi) It would both be i*cest and self-cest if Tikki and Plagg kissed. Besides Kwamis can’t love so a kiss is just useless because it is a sign of love but all Kwamis are aromantic.
I can't help but think that Supreme (Or maybe the main universe's version of it) may be the entity that appeared, surprising Lila at the end of "Re-Creation".
@@mikethedemon2456 I actually kind of want Lila to be defeated by the Supreme ironically being evil he would actually be doing something good I know a little confusing on what I said.
I was chatting with a friend and I have a theory: the supreme is Felix. Hear me out: Let’s say there was a reality where Gabriel does go back in time to fix the peacock miraculous. Emilie doesn’t die, yay! But also, he later gives the peacock miraculous to his brother in law, who we know to be abusive. Felix suffers that abuse for years longer, warping him further. There is also the possibility of some trauma befalling Amelie. In which case Felix is likely capable of causing his own brand of chaos, seeking the power to bring back his mother. In which case he may well seek out the reality bending powers of Gimmi and make himself the supreme (similar, in effect, to his actions with the red moon Sentimonster).
i like this theory a lot but i feel like his intent to gain supreme power is almost the same as what we see in the original series; if the parallel universe is supposed to be the opposite of what they are then i feel like it doesn’t make much sense since Adrien is already trying to do that to bring his own mother back. what do you think of the possibility of the supreme being master fu instead
@@shibb3668mmm I just think: Marinette = Evil Adrien = Evil Gabriel = Good Alya = Good Nino = Good Fuu = I mean he's kinda really old Chloe = Bully Sabine = Neglection to daughter Tom = 😶
It wouldn't make sense since as we can see in the episode, it was specified that only the supreme can use Gimmi's powers, so if Felix is the supreme, he would already have what he wants, so there's no point of him dragging everything else out (such as seeking out "minions" and granting others miraculouses ESPECIALLY the bug and cat miraculous).
Remember the rules when asking a wish from Gimmi, everything has a sacrifice. If you wished for strawberries to turn purple, then grapes would turn to red. And if the mage wished Gimmi to grant them immortality, something or someone would have to end theirs. And if the mage wished for Gimmi to harness Gimmi's powers, then there would be a consequence. Since Gimmi is the kwami of reality and has power to reality and the mage asked for a way to harness the power to reality, then in other universe, it would lose their reality perhaps? It's not quite simple just for the mage to wish for big things like that. The universe needs balance.
Since neither Kiki or Plagg could talk, perhaps the wish was to become the master of their combined Gimmi form and then ordered them into submission and silence even if they were in their normal forms? So when Shadybug tried to summon Gimmi, they couldn't because they already had a master they couldn't disobey and thus couldn't be summoned even in another world?
i think the supreme may be an intangible entity that spreads itself via its seal (so he is immortal but he also doesn't have a true body instead the entire order of guardians act as his hosts and through that connection he is technically always wearing every miraculous gaining access to the wish by effectively directly connecting himself to its source
I think the Supreme is actually Markov since later in the movie, we're reminded that if a robot were to wish to become human, another human would have their humanity taken away. We also learn that Max is in the form of a robot... COINCIDENCE? I THINK GOD DAMN NOT
@@aharonsarma5560 ooh that would be so unexpected but cool! That line was extremely wierd and it would be a really sad betrayal since Max is Markov's creator
@@liamglam6534 that's what I was thinking too. Since (as we've seen when Ladybug became the Guardian) the Guardian determines the design of the box. And the seal on Tikki and Plagg's mouth is similar to that which appears on Fu's miracle box. So it reasons that maybe instead of using the peacock miraculous when he was younger, he instead went with the nuclear option and made a wish.
I hope to see Gimmie/Gimmy, ( I don't know how it's name is spelled) makes at least 2 more appearances. 1 where Marinette talks to the combined form just to talk to it. After all, it did complain that in the past, when summoned by other people, all they did was make a wish, not simply talk to Gimmie. It would be very interesting to hear what Gimmie and the person who summoned it would talk about. Maybe in the next season or 2, Ladybug and Cat noir find out each other's identities, Marinette tells Adrian about Gimmie and it just wanting to finally talk to someone, and the summon it to do just that, talk about stuff. That would be awesome to see and listen in on.
Makes perfect sense but it’s unknown for sure. If Supreme controls reality like Gimmi, maybe it’s a connection to what scared Cerise in the cliffhanger of season 5 finale. It’s like the wish was granted in this world, Supreme probably felt it and decided to find that universe to find it.
So... Lila saw something in the finale, and if this special had one thing show up i.e the Gimmi ritual... What are the chances that the thing she saw that scared her.. WAS the Supreme. They WOULD have the rooster so could have done what Monarch did.
Does anyone think that maybe the Supreme is Gimme? As Gimme said in the episode "Re-creation", human only summoned him/her to complain. Maybe in that parallel world, Gimme is tired and annoyed by all the human that are ungrateful and dissatisfied with their lives, so Gimme decides to us his/her own power to bend the world to its own will. So that he/she will not be used for personal interest again and again. Also, as the voice interrupting the chanting said that only the Supreme defines reality and Reality IS The Supreme.
@@Ren-Yamato But it has its own mind and thinking. Also, it is all powerful and all, maybe it found a way to become an unique creature and become the Supreme. Well, we don't know for sure, just guessing.
I think Gimmi in the main series was able to appear because the alchemist who created the miraculous bound Gimmi to the two kwamis, while in the special the supreme, who replaces the order, bound an entity of nothing to them.
@@Froggie35 first of all since it happened before that it is possible that the supreme was cornered or something and ran away to this world second it is possible that the two universes don't share the same time sense
Lets be honest, Good Gabriel should know that the miraculous he weilds can be more powerfull than ever. He can grant his most loyal ally to boost his powers to kakimotize more than one person and upgrade his comunication and telepaphy abilities to max distance. (like in Catalyst) He could give the entire resistance, or anyone who wants to fight back against the supreme, super powers. He could technically kamikotize the entire world if Gabe managed to get the people on his side.🤔🤔
My personal theory is whoever "the supreme" is , his wish to Gimmi was to have his powers for himself this can explain why parallel Tikki & Plagg have their mouth shut by tese weirds symbols and the summoning failing cause "only the supreme can make reality".
Why not Master Fu? I mean, as you say in the AU the main characters that have a connection with Miarculous have their position, in the good/evil faction, swapped. We saw Marinette, Adrian, Gabriel but never Master Fu the man that started everything, so I think that instead of a faceless character (shown maybe during 1 episode) someone like Fu who was at the center of the story for 5 seasons is more likely to be the Supreme and it's going to be a good usage of his model now that he is out of the games in the Normal Universe.
About the “wishes” the Supreme could have made: if he makes a wish, he has to trade something equivalent. So he couldn’t take Gimmi without losing something equal, nor could he get immortality unless somebody else loses it. He could still be the Mage. If there isn’t an Immortality Kwami, then the Rooster can grant himself immortality, or he could use the Butterfly to make somebody grant it to him (including himself), or he could use the Peacock to make an age reducing/healing being…
Supreme could have wished for Gimmi's powers. It equals out and goes in line with what he said: " Only The Supreme defines reality. Reality is The Supreme!"
@@offlinehani8924 Technically Gimmi can cause anything to happen if an opposite can occur, so wishing for Gimmi's power could work Wishing for the power of a Kwami would make the wisher themself transform into a Kwami
@@offlinehani8924 Dude, I was wondering your comment with the logic that the canon seems to have with Gimmi, which is literally what I said If something has an opposite or the closest thing to it then it will happen Such as the user of the wish transforming into the Kwami that they wanted to steal the power from
If the guardian of the miracle box controls the miraculouses, and wielders can command the kwami, then it's possible that the current guardian (perhaps an alternate Master Fu who lived for centuries) could have placed limitations on the alternate Tikki and Plagg to prevent their fusion into Gimmi.
What if the Supreme Made Gimmi their own Miraculous and so thats why he can Defy and Define reality and make it so ShadyBug couldn’t make her wish? I think I may be onto something
your theory sounds true but here's a film theory that you should take into action. 1. Gimmi can only appear when tikki and plagg are combined so a ring or badge of a quami gimmi can't exist so the supreme doesn't have gimmi. 2. the supreme could have wished that he had a ability to place a seal on tikki and plagg or an quami to control them and to prevent anyone from summoning gimmi to undo his control. 3. We never seen nooroo have the seal on them throughout the show, so unless only tikki and plagg are the only ones with the seal on them then maybe the other quami does or doesn't. 4. the supreme could have been once part of "the Great Guardian of the Miraculouses" and betrayed the guardians and stole the miraculouses and wished for control.
The Supreme is definitely Fu. I mean, in the standard world, Fu is incredibly nice and always does the right thing. Since the Fu in our world is nice, the other Fu would be horrible and use miraculous for personal gain. It's not far off that the "giver of the miraculous" (both worlds) knows how to stop the wish. My theory is that the Supreme only knew how to stop the wish because he's the guardian, meaning he's probably Fu.
That will make Supreme a omniversal threat since he's dangerous to the whole entire multiverse. Omniverse is the term where all multiverses live just like in Spider-Man beyond the spider-verse. And then there could be something call omniversal dimensional travel when two different omnivoreses interact with each other like the DC versus Marvel comics.
i think the supreme is master fu since pretty much are still identical , but think master fu in that universe gave in his anger and powerless to become the rule , that nobody can take his love and power away anymore ,
Going by this video the kwami are like Primus and Unicron before the retcon. They are multiversal singularities, there is only one version of the kwami that exists in every universe at the same time.
@@scarletspider6554 You do make a good point and in all honesty, I actually forgot that they mentioned that Master Fu destroyed the temple, but that does fuel my point in some ways or shines a new light that Master Fu was one of the first people that we know of in the parallel universe that worked for The Supreme.
There's still this miraculous of the rooster that can grant you any powers,so maybe the so called supreme used this miraculous to get the power to seal plague and tiki,that's what I think
Can You Make A Video That Will Shadybug And Claw Noir Return In Season 6,Because, At The End Of Recreation,Cerise Ws Attcked By Something That Could Be The Supreme(I Read It At The Miraculous Wiki)
I just realized that 2 more people knows about Ladybug's and Chat Noir's identity and it's Shadybug and Claw Noir and Shadybug also knows Chat Noir's and Claw Noir knows Ladybug's identity. Remember when Ladybug and Chat Noir tried to talk some sense into Shadybug and Claw Noir that they do can change into good, they just need to try and close out every bad things in their life? When they did, they both revealed their identity to their parallel universe self. And right now you probably wonder how Shadybug knows Chat Noir's and Claw Noir knows Ladybug's identity. I'll explain it. When Shadybug tried to grant her wish, she needed her miraculous and Claw Noir's miraculous to summon Gimmie / Gimmi. Technically she just took Claw Noir's miraculous off of his finger while handcuffing him, making him detransform, and then she saw behind Claw Noir's mask is the parallel universe Adrien. Paralell universe Adrien also saw the paralell universe Marinette detransform, making herself reveal that she's Shadybug. And in the end of the special we all see the 6 of them standing near to the eiffel tower. I think Shadybug and Claw Noir is not that stupid to not figure it out that behind Ladybug's mask and Chat Noir's mask there's their good version of Marinette and Adrien and they know this very well after they revealed their identity to each other. PS: How in the camembert they didn't been able to figure it out that Betterfly (Hawk Moth's parallel universe, who is using his miraculous for the greatest good) is Gabriel? 😂 I mean his hair was showing, and it was like Gabriel's hair, even the color was the same, only the style was different 😅🤌🏻
If it turns out that Lila or someone from that classroom is that other universe's "Supreme" one, then I'm going to be like "WTF" because remember that Lila (or whatever she is calling herself with the new haircut and contacts) started to have things float and cried out which makes me wonder if a portal from another universe opened up. So I'm thinking it is very heavily tied together with the Shadybug and Claw Noir universe but at a different time. Hmm, could it be the one that can time travel but gone evil? After all, it wouldn't be surprising since Shadybug and Claw Noir were evil in their world.
It's likely that The Supreme is an evil Master Fu. While he turned out to be a good guy in the main universe he hated being a part of the guardians when he was a child and in another universe that animosity could have evolved into true hatred then pure evil.
When you think about it, it makes sense as ladybug and Chatnoir were given the miraculous to save people but in this universe the are given the miraculous to cause destruction and chaos by the "Sumpreme" which would relate to Master Fu
My predictions were that the supreme either set a rule to the Kwamis that they work for, to follow what they say but never let them harm them, or also made a wish that Gimme could only form for him and that the Kwamis would be under his complete control.
as gimmi said, or tiki and plagg did, ‘only the supreme defines reality, reality is the supreme’, I’m thinking what if the supreme had made a wish to be in control of reality or something? perhaps to have gimmis powers to shape reality, or to be more powerful etc. The reason i say this is because every action has a reaction, a consequence. perhaps the consequence of the wish was, in this universe, gimmi cannot exist, and the supreme would be the substitute and the new version, more powerful version. however the supreme doesn’t exist in that universe, and since the kwamis are from that universe, gimmi cannot exist without the supreme being there. it’s a bit far fetched and confusing but hopefully it’s understandable lol
In "Miraculous Paris", is showed that Tikki and Plagg from Shadybug and Claw Noir's universe have seals put on them by the Supreme that prevent them from talking and also prevents anyone from summon Gimmi and use the Absolute Power. Saw this in google
if the Supreme find out that there are other univers, then if he got the butterfly miraculous or, he can use it to travel in every univers to create more chaos and get all the miraculous. or he can also use the rooster miraculous
The supreme is the being who rules the world of shadybug and claw noir. He is the one who created all the miraculous for his own personal gain. When better fly, the alternate version of monarch, steals two miraculous the butterfly and the peacock, the supreme trusted the marinette and Adrien of that world to take back the miraculous better fly stole
I think The supreme isn’t Master Fu remember he and the woman he loves were running away from somone with miraculous and the woman even offered to use miraculous
I had a theory that the supreme is actually master fu but he destroyed the others guardians on purpose but he saved the miracle boxes and harnessed their power making him the owner ruler and guardian of every miraculous and their corresponding quamis. He then used that power to take over and control the world. is it a good theory?
Considering the parallel of the Supreme losing the butterfly and peacock miraculous to Gabriel and then proceeding to recruit Marinette and Adrien as holders of the ladybug and black cat miraculous... do you think that an evil Master Fu could be the Supreme? 150 years is plenty of time to transform the world into the dark version of that parallel universe. especially with little to no competition since the chinese miracle box has the most powerful miraculouses
i think and is a my tough: the supreme is Master Fu who in that reality is bad, but not from the beginng but when he lost Marianne during the war, like in the episode where the duo travel in time in pursuit of Monarch, there is a scene during war where Fu and Marienne split to escape from military, so in the alternate world Marianne probably die, Fu used the miraculus to bring back Marianne, but in that moment she know the price and despite him to sacrifice someone else to bring her back, so from that point Fu decide to turn evil and destroy evrything bc of tired that the world dont go in his way, and as he know how powerfull is Gimmi, he choice to seal Tiky and Plag so no one can use the reality power to alter his world.
Did nobody realize that the same exact logo over tiki / plague’s mouth is the same as the turtle bracelet? I think the supreme is master fu, since he held the turtle miraculous and it’d make sense that he’s bad in the “opposite universe”
To grant eternal life to someone, I think the trade-off would be that every so often, a random person loses their life to add years onto ths former person's own life.
If you’re reading this ; God loves you unconditionally. No matter mistakes you’ve done in your life, He stills & will always love you because we’re his children. In God’s eyes, we’re special & irreplaceable. But even in his love, we, humanity rebelled against God by committing sins & he hates sins. Despite our rebellion, God still loves us & cares for us. Instead of humanity, facing their own punishment (perishing in hell) because of their rebellion towards God, Jesus (God’s only Son) was willing to took that punishment upon himself by dying on the cross for our sins so that we may be forgiven & be reunited with our Father, in heaven. God wants to have a relationship with you like Father/Child. He wants you to be saved by surrendering your life to him and repent from your sins. God is waiting on your decision but time is limited. Jesus is returning soon on earth and those who are not saved will perish in hell because they reject Jesus’s sacrifice. That’s why the gospel is preach in order to save everyone’s eternity. God bless you ❤😊
I think after the wish there’s going to be another miraculous created and it’s going to be a miraculous that can open portals to other alternate universes without the need of another miraculous like the two used in the movie The Butterfly and Rooster Miraculous it makes a lot of since .
Good luck to the Supreme coming to our Ladybug’s and CatNoir’s universe there’s a whole team of Superheroes and Ihink the alternate Universe Ladybug and CatNoir would come back to warn Ladybug and CatNoir I didn’t say Betterfly because I think Betterfly sacrificed himself to save Ladybug and CatNoir of his universe after Monarch made his wish I wouldn’t be surprised that both Adriens lost both parents hopefully Parellel Adrien stays good even after losing both of his parents a what am I kidding with Marinette aka Ladybug and Nino now his friends I doubt he’ll change back to evil even without his Dad I also think Betterfly gave the Miraculous to his Universe’s CatNoir after finding out his son was Adrien the whole time when the Marinette aka Ladybug of his universe tells him I literally won’t be surprised sorry if this is confusing and no one understands it .But this is just a theory
I love how everyone is all ‘Give this a series or a sequel’ And I am all here for it. Side note: I saw there was this theory that the light Cerise/Lila or whatever saw at the end of season 5 was actually the Supreme. So the miraculous team GOING to the other universe to fight the Supreme and the other holders of those miraculous could be fun😊 Definitely would be a big enough threat to include all the miraculous 😊
in episode 6, can always show the madness of marinet and adrien's love. and when they turned into Ladybug and Cat Noir, they also became intimate because of their emotional bond of complementarity and need, even though they didn't know that they were Cat Noir and Ladybug.
There is also the possibility that Gabriel freed nuuruu from the Supereme. In the opening we can see that nuuruu doesn’t have a seal over his mouth while plaque and tiki do.
I just hope we see this story continued in a sequel, a spinoff or even the main series...
Yeah same here ❤😊
mhm I really wanna out how shadybug and claw noir changed their worlds and dealt with their problems
@@unicorn_xxx3424 same
I believe the main series will have it continue.. Since if the Supreme could STOP gimmi in a different universe, it could also be able to DETECT it happening and where it was.
With him appearing later... During the FINALE with Lila..
She was SCARED of what she saw, whom I think is the Supreme.
Actually Thomas said the characters from the special might return so it will happen
I really hope Shaydybug and Clawnoir will come back in season 6
Same
Yeah me too 😊❤
Yes
Thomas did say they might return at some point it could be any season tho
can somone please tell me wherei can watch this?
I also have something to add to it:
Kwamis can only use their powers based on their lips, like the wielders they also need to say certain words. When summoning Gimme, Tikki and Plagg had to kiss in their true forms, since their lips were sealed, neither works
They dont kiss they unite and being gimmi
They don't kiss, they hug and fuse together which allows Gimmi to manifest within the physical realm
Tikki and Plagg are Gimmi
Their lips were sealed so they were unable to do their “I am the kwami of -- and I am everything that --.”
They didn’t kiss. They did a small dance similar to fusion dances in Dragon Ball. There was no kiss involved. It would also be weird if there would be one because for 2 reasons.
1: all Kwamis are siblings (confirmed by the fact that they refer to each other as brothers and sisters)
2: Tikki and Plagg are twins halves of the same being. (Also confirmed because of Gimmi)
It would both be i*cest and self-cest if Tikki and Plagg kissed. Besides Kwamis can’t love so a kiss is just useless because it is a sign of love but all Kwamis are aromantic.
I can't help but think that Supreme (Or maybe the main universe's version of it) may be the entity that appeared, surprising Lila at the end of "Re-Creation".
I can't stop thinking that either.
If that’s true and Lila gets betrayed by the supreme I would not be upset 😈
@@mikethedemon2456 I actually kind of want Lila to be defeated by the Supreme ironically being evil he would actually be doing something good I know a little confusing on what I said.
Yes please! The Supreme is so interesting. ♥️
@@missims1003atleast lila didn't tranform miraculous butterfly though
I'm fairly sure that most people think that the supreme is opposite Fu...
Pretty much, he's the only one who would make sense.
Yeah I agree
Yes it's logic to me
Opposite Lila?
@@sebastianperez4461 yes opposite Lila
I was chatting with a friend and I have a theory: the supreme is Felix.
Hear me out:
Let’s say there was a reality where Gabriel does go back in time to fix the peacock miraculous. Emilie doesn’t die, yay! But also, he later gives the peacock miraculous to his brother in law, who we know to be abusive. Felix suffers that abuse for years longer, warping him further. There is also the possibility of some trauma befalling Amelie. In which case Felix is likely capable of causing his own brand of chaos, seeking the power to bring back his mother. In which case he may well seek out the reality bending powers of Gimmi and make himself the supreme (similar, in effect, to his actions with the red moon Sentimonster).
i like this theory a lot but i feel like his intent to gain supreme power is almost the same as what we see in the original series; if the parallel universe is supposed to be the opposite of what they are then i feel like it doesn’t make much sense since Adrien is already trying to do that to bring his own mother back. what do you think of the possibility of the supreme being master fu instead
@@shibb3668 technically not everything is opposite, since chloe is still evil,also felix is or was a gray character who could be both good and evil
@@shibb3668mmm I just think:
Marinette = Evil
Adrien = Evil
Gabriel = Good
Alya = Good
Nino = Good
Fuu = I mean he's kinda really old
Chloe = Bully
Sabine = Neglection to daughter
Tom = 😶
Why doesn't anyone know the supreme one is master fu
It wouldn't make sense since as we can see in the episode, it was specified that only the supreme can use Gimmi's powers, so if Felix is the supreme, he would already have what he wants, so there's no point of him dragging everything else out (such as seeking out "minions" and granting others miraculouses ESPECIALLY the bug and cat miraculous).
Remember the rules when asking a wish from Gimmi, everything has a sacrifice. If you wished for strawberries to turn purple, then grapes would turn to red.
And if the mage wished Gimmi to grant them immortality, something or someone would have to end theirs. And if the mage wished for Gimmi to harness Gimmi's powers, then there would be a consequence.
Since Gimmi is the kwami of reality and has power to reality and the mage asked for a way to harness the power to reality, then in other universe, it would lose their reality perhaps?
It's not quite simple just for the mage to wish for big things like that.
The universe needs balance.
Since neither Kiki or Plagg could talk, perhaps the wish was to become the master of their combined Gimmi form and then ordered them into submission and silence even if they were in their normal forms? So when Shadybug tried to summon Gimmi, they couldn't because they already had a master they couldn't disobey and thus couldn't be summoned even in another world?
I think that the cost of immortality goes like this:
"You will live forever, and thus, someone else will never live."
@@oprime Seems reasonable
i think the supreme may be an intangible entity that spreads itself via its seal (so he is immortal but he also doesn't have a true body instead the entire order of guardians act as his hosts and through that connection he is technically always wearing every miraculous gaining access to the wish by effectively directly connecting himself to its source
I think the Supreme is actually Markov since later in the movie, we're reminded that if a robot were to wish to become human, another human would have their humanity taken away.
We also learn that Max is in the form of a robot...
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@@aharonsarma5560 ooh that would be so unexpected but cool! That line was extremely wierd and it would be a really sad betrayal since Max is Markov's creator
I Wonder if master fu isn't the supreme in this universe.
I'm scared@@aharonsarma5560
@@liamglam6534 that's what I was thinking too. Since (as we've seen when Ladybug became the Guardian) the Guardian determines the design of the box. And the seal on Tikki and Plagg's mouth is similar to that which appears on Fu's miracle box. So it reasons that maybe instead of using the peacock miraculous when he was younger, he instead went with the nuclear option and made a wish.
I hope to see Gimmie/Gimmy, ( I don't know how it's name is spelled) makes at least 2 more appearances. 1 where Marinette talks to the combined form just to talk to it. After all, it did complain that in the past, when summoned by other people, all they did was make a wish, not simply talk to Gimmie. It would be very interesting to hear what Gimmie and the person who summoned it would talk about. Maybe in the next season or 2, Ladybug and Cat noir find out each other's identities, Marinette tells Adrian about Gimmie and it just wanting to finally talk to someone, and the summon it to do just that, talk about stuff. That would be awesome to see and listen in on.
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*_"Only the Supreme defines reality, reality IS the Supreme!"_*
- The Supreme
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Makes perfect sense but it’s unknown for sure.
If Supreme controls reality like Gimmi, maybe it’s a connection to what scared Cerise in the cliffhanger of season 5 finale.
It’s like the wish was granted in this world, Supreme probably felt it and decided to find that universe to find it.
So... Lila saw something in the finale, and if this special had one thing show up i.e the Gimmi ritual...
What are the chances that the thing she saw that scared her.. WAS the Supreme.
They WOULD have the rooster so could have done what Monarch did.
Does anyone think that maybe the Supreme is Gimme? As Gimme said in the episode "Re-creation", human only summoned him/her to complain. Maybe in that parallel world, Gimme is tired and annoyed by all the human that are ungrateful and dissatisfied with their lives, so Gimme decides to us his/her own power to bend the world to its own will. So that he/she will not be used for personal interest again and again. Also, as the voice interrupting the chanting said that only the Supreme defines reality and Reality IS The Supreme.
The issue is Gimme ****is**** Tikki and Plagg.
@@Ren-Yamato But it has its own mind and thinking. Also, it is all powerful and all, maybe it found a way to become an unique creature and become the Supreme. Well, we don't know for sure, just guessing.
@@Ren-Yamatoit can get a third mind
Like vakuum in pokemon XenoVerse
@@ashlynnmlbtextingstories1985 can gimmi have its thinking while Tikki and Plagg are in their regular Kwami forms?
@@offlinehani8924 Who knows? Gimme is all powerful and all. It can probably found its way to exist somehow. Like it can make a wish or something.
I think Gimmi in the main series was able to appear because the alchemist who created the miraculous bound Gimmi to the two kwamis, while in the special the supreme, who replaces the order, bound an entity of nothing to them.
Maybe the blue light that was near "Lila" in the end of season 5 was related to the supreme!
Yes
I thought so too.
@@Froggie35 first of all since it happened before that it is possible that the supreme was cornered or something and ran away to this world second it is possible that the two universes don't share the same time sense
no it must be nooru idk actually your probebly right but the question is why are they here then at lilas hideout
@@Froggie35 Are you talking about the shadybug and clawnoir ep or when lila got tp to somewhere
What if Lila was the 2nd main villain of Season 6 and the Supreme was the real main villain of S6
Yh that’s what I was thinking, maybe that light by Lila at the end of s5 was the supreme?
@@Anya-xb9mxyeah I agree
Lets be honest, Good Gabriel should know that the miraculous he weilds can be more powerfull than ever. He can grant his most loyal ally to boost his powers to kakimotize more than one person and upgrade his comunication and telepaphy abilities to max distance. (like in Catalyst) He could give the entire resistance, or anyone who wants to fight back against the supreme, super powers. He could technically kamikotize the entire world if Gabe managed to get the people on his side.🤔🤔
Honestly, given his selfless nature, it doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't have thought of using his Kamiko to increase his own power.
I think the supreme is someone who already used Gimmi to gain a wish.
My personal theory is whoever "the supreme" is , his wish to Gimmi was to have his powers for himself this can explain why parallel Tikki & Plagg have their mouth shut by tese weirds symbols and the summoning failing cause "only the supreme can make reality".
cool theories. I think the supreme is master fu or that other guardian guy who hops around
Do you mean Su han? That's a possibility
Why not Master Fu? I mean, as you say in the AU the main characters that have a connection with Miarculous have their position, in the good/evil faction, swapped. We saw Marinette, Adrian, Gabriel but never Master Fu the man that started everything, so I think that instead of a faceless character (shown maybe during 1 episode) someone like Fu who was at the center of the story for 5 seasons is more likely to be the Supreme and it's going to be a good usage of his model now that he is out of the games in the Normal Universe.
About the “wishes” the Supreme could have made: if he makes a wish, he has to trade something equivalent. So he couldn’t take Gimmi without losing something equal, nor could he get immortality unless somebody else loses it.
He could still be the Mage. If there isn’t an Immortality Kwami, then the Rooster can grant himself immortality, or he could use the Butterfly to make somebody grant it to him (including himself), or he could use the Peacock to make an age reducing/healing being…
Supreme could have wished for Gimmi's powers. It equals out and goes in line with what he said: " Only The Supreme defines reality. Reality is The Supreme!"
@@KittuPaladinI don’t think that’s possible. I don’t think you can just wish for a kwamis powers
@@offlinehani8924 Technically Gimmi can cause anything to happen if an opposite can occur, so wishing for Gimmi's power could work
Wishing for the power of a Kwami would make the wisher themself transform into a Kwami
@@Archiver_Studio?? Okay
@@offlinehani8924 Dude, I was wondering your comment with the logic that the canon seems to have with Gimmi, which is literally what I said
If something has an opposite or the closest thing to it then it will happen
Such as the user of the wish transforming into the Kwami that they wanted to steal the power from
I thought that the Supreme was like an evil version of Master Fu that used Gimmi to grant his wish for absolute control over all miraculous'
I kind of think that too.
Thats actually genius
It's what I thought as well.
If the guardian of the miracle box controls the miraculouses, and wielders can command the kwami, then it's possible that the current guardian (perhaps an alternate Master Fu who lived for centuries) could have placed limitations on the alternate Tikki and Plagg to prevent their fusion into Gimmi.
What if the Supreme Made Gimmi their own Miraculous and so thats why he can Defy and Define reality and make it so ShadyBug couldn’t make her wish? I think I may be onto something
but that would be impossible without tikki and plagg. tikki and plagg are gimmi so that would be questionable.
@@RQHA253 thats explains nature of jesus !
I wonder if the Supreme Order is represented by the Sephiroths of the Tree of Life
It would be really cool if they made a side story for Shadybug and Butterfly and that world. I feel like it would be very popular.
Propably
your theory sounds true but here's a film theory that you should take into action.
1. Gimmi can only appear when tikki and plagg are combined so a ring or badge of a quami gimmi can't exist so the supreme doesn't have gimmi.
2. the supreme could have wished that he had a ability to place a seal on tikki and plagg or an quami to control them and to prevent anyone from summoning gimmi to undo his control.
3. We never seen nooroo have the seal on them throughout the show, so unless only tikki and plagg are the only ones with the seal on them then maybe the other quami does or doesn't.
4. the supreme could have been once part of "the Great Guardian of the Miraculouses" and betrayed the guardians and stole the miraculouses and wished for control.
The Supreme is definitely Fu. I mean, in the standard world, Fu is incredibly nice and always does the right thing. Since the Fu in our world is nice, the other Fu would be horrible and use miraculous for personal gain. It's not far off that the "giver of the miraculous" (both worlds) knows how to stop the wish. My theory is that the Supreme only knew how to stop the wish because he's the guardian, meaning he's probably Fu.
Gimmi isn’t exactly a “she”, it’s an it, they, it is a combination of Plagg and Tikki.
Y’all, MASTER FU IS THE SUPREME
Grandmaster Su-Han is…
I agree
I wish to see a sequel of the special. I want to the different dimensions of Miraculous Ladybug 🐞
Me as well 🙂.
@@scarletspider6554same here 😊
What if the Supreme is a evil master Fu?
Yeah I think he is🤔.
Wait...your telling me there's a kwami out there that would give me the power of MATH?! wha?
Yes
That will make Supreme a omniversal threat since he's dangerous to the whole entire multiverse. Omniverse is the term where all multiverses live just like in Spider-Man beyond the spider-verse. And then there could be something call omniversal dimensional travel when two different omnivoreses interact with each other like the DC versus Marvel comics.
The supreme marking is the just the Symbol of the Guardians with an X in the middle
i think the supreme is master fu since pretty much are still identical , but think master fu in that universe gave in his anger and powerless to become the rule , that nobody can take his love and power away anymore ,
Going by this video the kwami are like Primus and Unicron before the retcon. They are multiversal singularities, there is only one version of the kwami that exists in every universe at the same time.
I have to admit that this video was really interesting and I do wonder if The Mage/The Supreme could be Master Fu in the parallel world?
I think so to, but in this parallel world Master Fu purposely destroyed the guard temper and not by accident.
@@scarletspider6554 You do make a good point and in all honesty, I actually forgot that they mentioned that Master Fu destroyed the temple, but that does fuel my point in some ways or shines a new light that Master Fu was one of the first people that we know of in the parallel universe that worked for The Supreme.
@@phillipwalters7702 Thanks I hope one day we know who else works for The Supreme.
@@scarletspider6554 I definitely agree with you there and I think I know who The Supreme is... The two creators of the show 🤣
@@phillipwalters7702 😂🤣🤣 funny good one 😁.
Monarch also called Master fu the guardian supreme( i think) when Ladybug got the miraculous box
7:27
Alya is Ubiquity...how can she go through herself?😂
Anyone can be ubiquity shown when ladybug became it
Fun fact
Kuro neko means black cat
And akuma means devil
Both are japanese words
There's still this miraculous of the rooster that can grant you any powers,so maybe the so called supreme used this miraculous to get the power to seal plague and tiki,that's what I think
I think the Supreme is either Master Fu or the Celestial Guardian
Mostly Master Fu
Can You Make A Video That Will Shadybug And Claw Noir Return In Season 6,Because, At The End Of Recreation,Cerise Ws Attcked By Something That Could Be The Supreme(I Read It At The Miraculous Wiki)
Yeah I agree 😊
For this, I can only think of one: control. If kwamis had more rules to follow, then their be more rules for the people.
Where can you see this on? Netflix, videoland on what?
I just realized that 2 more people knows about Ladybug's and Chat Noir's identity and it's Shadybug and Claw Noir and Shadybug also knows Chat Noir's and Claw Noir knows Ladybug's identity.
Remember when Ladybug and Chat Noir tried to talk some sense into Shadybug and Claw Noir that they do can change into good, they just need to try and close out every bad things in their life? When they did, they both revealed their identity to their parallel universe self.
And right now you probably wonder how Shadybug knows Chat Noir's and Claw Noir knows Ladybug's identity. I'll explain it. When Shadybug tried to grant her wish, she needed her miraculous and Claw Noir's miraculous to summon Gimmie / Gimmi. Technically she just took Claw Noir's miraculous off of his finger while handcuffing him, making him detransform, and then she saw behind Claw Noir's mask is the parallel universe Adrien. Paralell universe Adrien also saw the paralell universe Marinette detransform, making herself reveal that she's Shadybug. And in the end of the special we all see the 6 of them standing near to the eiffel tower. I think Shadybug and Claw Noir is not that stupid to not figure it out that behind Ladybug's mask and Chat Noir's mask there's their good version of Marinette and Adrien and they know this very well after they revealed their identity to each other.
PS: How in the camembert they didn't been able to figure it out that Betterfly (Hawk Moth's parallel universe, who is using his miraculous for the greatest good) is Gabriel? 😂 I mean his hair was showing, and it was like Gabriel's hair, even the color was the same, only the style was different 😅🤌🏻
Spell
If it turns out that Lila or someone from that classroom is that other universe's "Supreme" one, then I'm going to be like "WTF" because remember that Lila (or whatever she is calling herself with the new haircut and contacts) started to have things float and cried out which makes me wonder if a portal from another universe opened up. So I'm thinking it is very heavily tied together with the Shadybug and Claw Noir universe but at a different time. Hmm, could it be the one that can time travel but gone evil? After all, it wouldn't be surprising since Shadybug and Claw Noir were evil in their world.
Or Maybe Lila /Cerise is from another reality
Christina Vee's sound also suits perfectly as a villain. Wish they hadn't turned Shadybug good instead had made spin off series around that.
i wish for part 2 in this miraculous special😭😭😭😭😭it made me cry and it
so good
It's likely that The Supreme is an evil Master Fu. While he turned out to be a good guy in the main universe he hated being a part of the guardians when he was a child and in another universe that animosity could have evolved into true hatred then pure evil.
Make sense
actually, pre-rings Monarch appears in this special, so it can't take place after the end of destruction
This is theory I came up with but what is the original guardians of the miraculous like Master Fu could be the Sumpreme and a part of it
When you think about it, it makes sense as ladybug and Chatnoir were given the miraculous to save people but in this universe the are given the miraculous to cause destruction and chaos by the "Sumpreme" which would relate to Master Fu
Maybe instead of Master Fu trying to run away with the miraculous to save it, he had stole the miraculous box and that the name the Supreme
@@sujathaganesan449yeah I agree
This series has came so far !
i feel like The Supreme is master Fu but evil version
My predictions were that the supreme either set a rule to the Kwamis that they work for, to follow what they say but never let them harm them, or also made a wish that Gimme could only form for him and that the Kwamis would be under his complete control.
as gimmi said, or tiki and plagg did, ‘only the supreme defines reality, reality is the supreme’, I’m thinking what if the supreme had made a wish to be in control of reality or something? perhaps to have gimmis powers to shape reality, or to be more powerful etc. The reason i say this is because every action has a reaction, a consequence. perhaps the consequence of the wish was, in this universe, gimmi cannot exist, and the supreme would be the substitute and the new version, more powerful version. however the supreme doesn’t exist in that universe, and since the kwamis are from that universe, gimmi cannot exist without the supreme being there. it’s a bit far fetched and confusing but hopefully it’s understandable lol
0:41 - 0.42 what is that on their face?
I think it's a magic seal preventing them from speaking
In "Miraculous Paris", is showed that Tikki and Plagg from Shadybug and Claw Noir's universe have seals put on them by the Supreme that prevent them from talking and also prevents anyone from summon Gimmi and use the Absolute Power.
Saw this in google
Can i ask what episode season u this
Cause i din't see this episode or season
Paris special
if the Supreme find out that there are other univers, then if he got the butterfly miraculous or, he can use it to travel in every univers to create more chaos and get all the miraculous. or he can also use the rooster miraculous
2:49 wait so there could be a miraculous of anime since it's also a concept that exist
0:05 who is the supreme
Master Fu or Su Han
The supreme is the being who rules the world of shadybug and claw noir. He is the one who created all the miraculous for his own personal gain. When better fly, the alternate version of monarch, steals two miraculous the butterfly and the peacock, the supreme trusted the marinette and Adrien of that world to take back the miraculous better fly stole
It’s a different universe Gabriel, I heard his voice 0:03
I think The supreme isn’t Master Fu remember he and the woman he loves were running away from somone with miraculous and the woman even offered to use miraculous
Remember
Its a Parallel Universe
Supreme Could be master Fu After WW 2
I had a theory that the supreme is actually master fu but he destroyed the others guardians on purpose but he saved the miracle boxes and harnessed their power making him the owner ruler and guardian of every miraculous and their corresponding quamis. He then used that power to take over and control the world. is it a good theory?
It's the only explanation.
Make sense
Or maybe supreme is the same person that got Lila at the end of season 5.
Considering the parallel of the Supreme losing the butterfly and peacock miraculous to Gabriel and then proceeding to recruit Marinette and Adrien as holders of the ladybug and black cat miraculous... do you think that an evil Master Fu could be the Supreme? 150 years is plenty of time to transform the world into the dark version of that parallel universe. especially with little to no competition since the chinese miracle box has the most powerful miraculouses
Is that even a question ? It's obviously him.
Or Su Han
@@JabamiLain voice is different
i think and is a my tough:
the supreme is Master Fu who in that reality is bad, but not from the beginng but when he lost Marianne during the war, like in the episode where the duo travel in time in pursuit of Monarch, there is a scene during war where Fu and Marienne split to escape from military, so in the alternate world Marianne probably die, Fu used the miraculus to bring back Marianne, but in that moment she know the price and despite him to sacrifice someone else to bring her back, so from that point Fu decide to turn evil and destroy evrything bc of tired that the world dont go in his way, and as he know how powerfull is Gimmi, he choice to seal Tiky and Plag so no one can use the reality power to alter his world.
Possible
Did nobody realize that the same exact logo over tiki / plague’s mouth is the same as the turtle bracelet? I think the supreme is master fu, since he held the turtle miraculous and it’d make sense that he’s bad in the “opposite universe”
Make sense
It kind of seams like the mage is the supreme in a darker setting and Gimmi straight up said one option for a wish is immortality
The Supreme has to be an alternate evil version of Master Fu. He gave Marinette and Adrien their Miraculous in one reality, why not another?
Everyone is possible
To grant eternal life to someone, I think the trade-off would be that every so often, a random person loses their life to add years onto ths former person's own life.
I wish they did a better job with the dubbed version by slightly re-animating the way the mouths move
I think the supreme is Master Fu tbh-
I mean he was the miraculous holder before Marinette
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where do i watch this???
(im not doing a gift card chance thing or anything of that sort)
I didnt know this kind of episode i just thought that marinette and adrien became emo😳
I think after the wish there’s going to be another miraculous created and it’s going to be a miraculous that can open portals to other alternate universes without the need of another miraculous like the two used in the movie The Butterfly and Rooster Miraculous it makes a lot of since .
Good luck to the Supreme coming to our Ladybug’s and CatNoir’s universe there’s a whole team of Superheroes and Ihink the alternate Universe Ladybug and CatNoir would come back to warn Ladybug and CatNoir I didn’t say Betterfly because I think Betterfly sacrificed himself to save Ladybug and CatNoir of his universe after Monarch made his wish I wouldn’t be surprised that both Adriens lost both parents hopefully Parellel Adrien stays good even after losing both of his parents a what am I kidding with Marinette aka Ladybug and Nino now his friends I doubt he’ll change back to evil even without his Dad I also think Betterfly gave the Miraculous to his Universe’s CatNoir after finding out his son was Adrien the whole time when the Marinette aka Ladybug of his universe tells him I literally won’t be surprised sorry if this is confusing and no one understands it .But this is just a theory
@@missims1003 our heroes lost and the universe was remade. Pretty sure the Supreme has already been decided as the victor of that battle.
In my story Rabbit Miraculous is Interdimentional
Or I have a simpler theory: The Supreme is Master Fu.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 3:17 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I love how everyone is all
‘Give this a series or a sequel’
And I am all here for it.
Side note: I saw there was this theory that the light Cerise/Lila or whatever saw at the end of season 5 was actually the Supreme. So the miraculous team GOING to the other universe to fight the Supreme and the other holders of those miraculous could be fun😊
Definitely would be a big enough threat to include all the miraculous 😊
3:23 the concep of immortality+kwami of importantly+miraculous=imortal
Where to watch the whole miraculous series and all movies???
Supreme = evil master fu. Change my mind 😂
Where should we found this shadybug and claw noir movie or series reply Asap
in episode 6, can always show the madness of marinet and adrien's love. and when they turned into Ladybug and Cat Noir, they also became intimate because of their emotional bond of complementarity and need, even though they didn't know that they were Cat Noir and Ladybug.
supreme and be mage are bare immortal. ?
Where did you get the movie
there is only one question on everyone's mind who is the supreme
I believe i heard they say the supreme is master fu but evil
where can i watch the movie in youtube i couldent find it any where
I would NOT Abe surprised if Lilia was the Supreme One. And she would be no different even in a different dimension…that is just me.
Possible
Not impossible
What is this? A movie or series?
i thought the supreme was an evil version of master fu
How do I watch the full episode?
There is also the possibility that Gabriel freed nuuruu from the Supereme. In the opening we can see that nuuruu doesn’t have a seal over his mouth while plaque and tiki do.
Omfg!!! I thought the supreme was Fu but its 100% Gimmi.
Where do you watch the new movie
Can someone tell us what Australian kwamis would be and their powers?
Maybe 🤔
Kangaroo
Platypus
@polishalastor142 maybe legendary kwamis like the Rainbow snake for example
Interesting