Great video. Glad to see someone exploring this magical music. I suddenly got into indian music about five years ago. And now a day doesnt go past without me listening to it or trying to play it. I really feel its the kind of music that you have to learn in order to really understand. I have a surbahar a sitar and sarod and cant really decide which one i love more. Those moments of bliss, or maybe even ecstasy, you mention from my experience are when im playing an my eyes close and suddenly my fingers start strumming these different layers of rythym and melody and i dont know quite where the intent is coming from and where im going with it. Its all very mysterious to me and thats what keeps me coming back for more. It truly is a lifetime undertaking where you have to leave the ego at the door to even grasp a drop of its wonder!
It is worth reviewing and considering deeply ,many points you have made in this video …It will be a topic of STUDY for me with critical evaluation ! Thanks !
Beautifully explained. Here the emphasis is on the performer who achieves state of Bliss but the listener can also be blissful forgetting who he she os🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Interesting work! Those of us who practice know the type of entrainment that comes with being so locked into our riyaaz or when playing with a teacher or other performer. It certainly feels harmonizing and enriching
Wonderful to see this. As a sitar player yes it was the allure of the effect the music has to queit the constantly thinking mind which brought me to devote myself to hindustani music. The sargam syllables literally replace the speech of inner thought with melodies.
A lot of good music in this video! I started sitar in 1970. In 1981 I attended University of Hawaii for which I received an MA in ethnomusicology in 1985. Then I attended UCLA to work on my PhD. I am also interested in musical affect. I call it music as a "psychotechnology" ie a tool of personal. transformation. I find your approach speculative and philosphical; it is not scholarly. The good news is that human brain wave states are empirically measurable. I attended a composium on "Music and Trance" at UCLA. The components of music which faciltate alternate states.
Thanks for your comment! I also really like the idea of music as a 'psychotechnology'. I would however push back a bit on the idea that measuring brain waves is the same as studying consciousness. Of course, we should use all the tools available to us, but in my opinion any information on brain waves needs to be related back to the phenomenology of the experience, if we truly want to understand how conscious states are being affected.
Listening to your analysis based on your personal experience and validated by experience of your Guruji Debashish ji was a spiritual experience for me. I exclaimed words like, exactly, so true, wow and many more spiritual confirmations from my non-reflective self. Your analysis is spot on and absolutely correct. Naad Brahma is Om, the primordial sound of Silence, sound of the Big Bang; the loudest sound of silence no one heard! Musically it is experienced in moments of self awareness. I was impressed by Shri Debashish saying that it takes a few hours to come out of such absorptive state. I would love to connect with you because there is so much to share. How can I connect? You omitted your name in your moment of self-awareness!
I just started this and watched just the introduction. Pt. Ravi Shankar learnt from Ustad Allauddin Khan. Ustad got him married to his only daughter Annapurna Devi whom he ditched and left. She never played in public and there’s no recording though legend has it that she was a better learner than her brother Ustad Ali Akbar Khan. I wonder what kind of influence the music had on PRS. Or maybe one shouldn’t even talk about it?
Kyabaathai. Very good and important work. Thank you so much for this wonderful initiative! Also I must ask: Where are you from? Your accent sounds very Scandinavian but the Indian Classical Music community is so small here that I would've known you then?
You should take a look at some of the historical writings on the effects/moods of the various raags on humans. I think your studies rely too much on psychosocial theories and not on historical evidence. I say this as someone who has studied Hindustani music from both a historical/cultural and performance/practice standpoint (sitar, dilruba) for more than 50 years. I also suggest learning one of the major languages of North India. But I think you have hit on to a new aspect of studying the music, so please continue to explore this aspect!
Even Sacred Gregorian Chants affects us. It's really helpful
Even rock and jazz can have those kinds of effects
Great video. Glad to see someone exploring this magical music. I suddenly got into indian music about five years ago. And now a day doesnt go past without me listening to it or trying to play it. I really feel its the kind of music that you have to learn in order to really understand. I have a surbahar a sitar and sarod and cant really decide which one i love more. Those moments of bliss, or maybe even ecstasy, you mention from my experience are when im playing an my eyes close and suddenly my fingers start strumming these different layers of rythym and melody and i dont know quite where the intent is coming from and where im going with it. Its all very mysterious to me and thats what keeps me coming back for more. It truly is a lifetime undertaking where you have to leave the ego at the door to even grasp a drop of its wonder!
This music heals me 🥰
It is worth reviewing and considering deeply ,many points you have made in this video …It will be a topic of STUDY for me with critical evaluation ! Thanks !
Incredible. I haven't seen any other video like this where such a deep analysis of Hindustani music is done. Very nice.
Great work sir!! As a person of western origin doing research on eastern music, it shows that music has no boundaries! ❤
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and study of this subject of magical music, much appreciated! Very informative. ✨❤️🙏
Beautifully explained. Here the emphasis is on the performer who achieves state of Bliss but the listener can also be blissful forgetting who he she os🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Interesting work! Those of us who practice know the type of entrainment that comes with being so locked into our riyaaz or when playing with a teacher or other performer. It certainly feels harmonizing and enriching
Wonderful to see this. As a sitar player yes it was the allure of the effect the music has to queit the constantly thinking mind which brought me to devote myself to hindustani music. The sargam syllables literally replace the speech of inner thought with melodies.
A lot of good music in this video! I started sitar in 1970. In 1981 I attended University of Hawaii for which I received an MA in ethnomusicology in 1985. Then I attended UCLA to work on my PhD. I am also interested in musical affect. I call it music as a
"psychotechnology" ie a tool of personal. transformation. I find your approach speculative and philosphical; it is not scholarly. The good news is that human brain wave states are empirically measurable. I attended a composium on "Music and Trance" at UCLA. The components of music which faciltate alternate states.
Thanks for your comment! I also really like the idea of music as a 'psychotechnology'. I would however push back a bit on the idea that measuring brain waves is the same as studying consciousness. Of course, we should use all the tools available to us, but in my opinion any information on brain waves needs to be related back to the phenomenology of the experience, if we truly want to understand how conscious states are being affected.
This was a great study, appreciate all the work you put into it. As an aspiring sitarist myself, many of your points resonate with my learning journey
Listening to your analysis based on your personal experience and validated by experience of your Guruji Debashish ji was a spiritual experience for me. I exclaimed words like, exactly, so true, wow and many more spiritual confirmations from my non-reflective self.
Your analysis is spot on and absolutely correct.
Naad Brahma is Om, the primordial sound of Silence, sound of the Big Bang; the loudest sound of silence no one heard!
Musically it is experienced in moments of self awareness. I was impressed by Shri Debashish saying that it takes a few hours to come out of such absorptive state.
I would love to connect with you because there is so much to share.
How can I connect? You omitted your name in your moment of self-awareness!
That's amazing! Really glad the video had that effect on you. You can get in touch through Instagram @alec.cooper.sitar
This was incredible. Thank you. Is your dissertation available online for reading?
Excellent concept
Great approach, keep up the good work!
Good, interesting, all the best 👍
Excellent presentation with clear scientific rational ideas and analysis - well done, and thanks.
Is it possible to get a copy of your PhD thesis made on this subject, or have you published any book based on that?
Brilliantly thought through and put together!
Great job sir 👏
I just started this and watched just the introduction. Pt. Ravi Shankar learnt from Ustad Allauddin Khan. Ustad got him married to his only daughter Annapurna Devi whom he ditched and left. She never played in public and there’s no recording though legend has it that she was a better learner than her brother Ustad Ali Akbar Khan. I wonder what kind of influence the music had on PRS.
Or maybe one shouldn’t even talk about it?
100% right you
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Is it only time and effort or a healthy (neuro) body too that is required to reach those achievements?
Namaste!
Interesting PhD topic
Are you still doing work on this. I would like to see this psychologically
Thanks
Kyabaathai. Very good and important work. Thank you so much for this wonderful initiative!
Also I must ask: Where are you from? Your accent sounds very Scandinavian but the Indian Classical Music community is so small here that I would've known you then?
Thanks a lot, glad you like the video!
I get asked this a lot...I'm from Argentina but have been living in Scotland for over 10 years.
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You should take a look at some of the historical writings on the effects/moods of the various raags on humans. I think your studies rely too much on psychosocial theories and not on historical evidence. I say this as someone who has studied Hindustani music from both a historical/cultural and performance/practice standpoint (sitar, dilruba) for more than 50 years. I also suggest learning one of the major languages of North India. But I think you have hit on to a new aspect of studying the music, so please continue to explore this aspect!
Thanks! Of course, there are many more ways of looking at this complex question, and the effect of raags is definitely one of them.
Hi, I have recently completed my honours in music. Could I read your thesis?
Yes sure, you can find it here: www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Musical-connectivity-in-sitar-and-tabla-Cooper/878b453b55ddb21e90507407e262f67a93d00094
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Nor we are Indians nor Hindustani we are Bharatiya
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