Around the 09:30 I got some numbers a bit jumbled up. Apologies for that. The record claimed to be from 1495 was actually from 1565 as I wrote, but for some reason said 1564, and that record was lost in a fire in 1860 not 1560 as I said for some reason, the document didn’t travel back in time and get caught on fire lol. I don’t know if number dyslexia is a thing, but if it is I have it.
My favourite folk etymology comes from a popular joke in Cork, Ireland: When the city of Dubai was being built, all Irish workers came over to help build it. When it was finished, the mayor came to the workers and said "You've done such a good job that we'd like to name the city after you" The Irish workers replied "Ah do bai" ("Ah" being just a part of speech like "uh" or "um". "Do" on it's own used to say "Go ahead" or "You can do that". "Bai" or "Boy" is a popular addition to speech in Cork similar to saying "Like" or "You know" at the end of sentences)
There's a similar joke about the city of Ufa in Russia. An old man and his wife were going up the hill. Finally they reached the top, and stopped to rest. The man said "Uf" (an exclamation after a hard job being done), and his wife, not having quite heard him, asked him "Ah?" (An exclamation that means something like "what did you say?"). And that's where the city was built and got its name from.
@@isaac_aren I do get it the bai part kind of cuz my paternal grandmother is from Waterford and my father uses the phrases most of the time ⌚ and we go there every year so I got it lol 😂 and it was actually funny
There's a folk etymology that the Portuguese word for "thank you" (obrigado) might come from Japanese ("arigato") or vice versa. In fact, both are core vocabulary of their respective languages, even being created by conjugating existing verbs.
This could be reinforced by the fact that "tempura", a japanese dish, does come from interaction with portuguese, from spices brought from india and the portuguese word "tempero", meaning spice.
There's a dish in Indonesia called tuturuga which is usually made with chicken. People seem to think that tuturuga is the name of the sauce used for the dish. The truth, however, is that this was originally the way Portuguese colonists cooked the animal tuturuga, but these days other meats are substituted for it because it's now illegal to eat this animal. If you're Portuguese, you can probably guess what the animal is.
@@caracaes Tempura has almost no spice. It's literally just flour-battered fried foods. The Japanese dish that does have Indian spices is kare, which is just curry. What makes your post really funny is that the name tempura did come from Portuguese, in this case the term quatuor anni tempora. Tempura in Japan is always made with seasonal vegetables and roots or shrimp and prawn (never meat) in the spirit of the original Portuguese term.
I remember in like 5th grade this Hungarian lady came to my class and told us that America was indirectly named after some Hungarian guy called Emeric, because Amerigo Vespucci was named after him.
You should do another video covering other folk etymologies. Like the one I recently had to debunk for an 18 year old coworker who swore up and down that it was true. Shit stands for Ship High In Transit. I had to tell him the real origin is the German word for fecal matter and he didn't believe me until I finally explained to him that I know German and have studied etymology extensively for 20 years and then finally had to google and find a website with the real etymology of the word. The same coworker actually tried to convince me that the Navy developed a bullet proof paint and that's why all Navy ships are painted every day. I had to disabuse him of that notion by telling him that I was actually in the Navy and ships aren't painted every single day nor is paint bulletproof nor would that be necessary on a steel hull ship. He really just believed everything he read on the internet.
Igabod Dobagi Yes, I find that people are very fond of folk etymologies involving acronyms when very few words actually have that origin. (Also, most misunderstand what an acronym is in the first place.)
@@scottb828 indeed, you are correct. In fact, acronyms are a fairly modern concept. I can't be sure because it's been a long time since I studied this aspect of the English language, but I believe acronyms didn't start being widely used until the 1800s, by which time the majority of English words were already in existence. And the idea of turning acronyms into words is even more modern. People used to just pronounce the letters in acronyms instead of turning it into a word. For example, as recently as the Vietnam war, people pronounced the letters in the acronym for "away without leave" as A.W.O.L. Although some people were saying it as the word awol even in WW2, but it hadn't been solidified as the way to say it yet. So the idea of an ancient word such as ship being an acronym that is used as a word is laughable.
@@aitor.online the idea that people were completely illiterate in the past is a myth. Most people could at least read a little in their own language. But in medieval and renaissance times, people were considered illiterate if they couldn't read and write Latin. They could still usually read their own language, but since that wasn't the language of the highly educated people it was looked down upon by the upper class. I'm not saying they could all read fluently, but they could usually sound words out and figure it out.
@@mrs.morris5506 "America is such a male-privilegded country that the only way to change that would be to change it's name from America to I'm Erica" -GradeAUnderA
I was taught in elementary school that it was named after Américo Vespúcio (Spanish for Amerigo Vespucci) that's how I learned it, that's how I taught it to my children.
My favorite ghost etymology is the relationship between venue and avenue. A venue is a location, often circumscribed, like a concert venue. An avenue is a wide open road, not circumscribed. Sounds good but their etymologies are completely different. BTW, I've used the word ghost instead of folk. I guess I think of folk as more related to folk song than folktale.
The version I heard I school in the 1960s - ‘70s was that Amerigo Vespucci was a cartographer who drew a map of Columbus’ voyage, and his signature on the map was misinterpreted as being the name of the new world.
The connection to Amerigo Vespucci is even clearer when you realize that it was common at the time for scholars to adopt Latinized names and to write much of their work in Latin (presumably due to its role as the European lingua franca of the era). The Latinization of Vespucci's name was Americus Vespucius, with a C where his native Italian had a G. The one thing that puzzles me though is why the German cartographer based the name of the New World on Amerigo's first name rather than his last name, as tends to be the more common practice. Why am I not a citizen of the United States of Vespucia?
One theory is that it made it consistent with the names of other continents, which have feminine form and begin and end in vowels (although in English, Europe ends in a silent e, it doesn't in a lot of languages, often ending in a pronounced e ).
1:44 As a german speaker, I'd have guessed "Volksetymologie" would refer to the etymology of the (common) people, i.e. Layman-Etymology, as such an etymology for a word would sound convincing, but have no basis in scientific research.
I was at the beach last year with my children, when my then 10yr old daughter said: “it’s cool how they came up with the word sand” me: “what do you mean?” Her: “it’s between the sea and the land”. I had never thought of that before so I’m wondering if it’s folk etymology?
There is also another explanation why Amerigo and Ameryk are so similar, basically they are the same name. One is an Italian derivation of the German name Emmerich, the other is the Dutch derivation of the same name. Basically is like John and Juán. As for folk etymologies, another interesting facts, is that often they can influence the evolution of a word, an example is dutch "hangmat" (hammock) that comes from the arawak word "hamaka" (through Spanish amaca"), but because "hamacas" usually "hang" and are kind of a"mat", the folk etymology of han mat actually changed the word to that. Another example is wormwood, which has kothing to do with neither worms or wood, but because the Old English word "wermode" kind of sounded like "wormwode" (literally worm-wood in Old English) it was changed to that because people believed it came from those words. The original can be seen more clearly in German "Wermut"
Here's a cool etymology. While Germany is "Germania" in some Slavic languages, Germans are referred as a variation of "Niemcy", which means silent people/people unable to speak. Apparently in my native language of Polish it comes from our ancestors not being able to understand their language so it was kinda like they were unable to speak unintelligibly (In Polish Niemcy is used for both the country and the people instead of Germania)
reminds me of the origin of the term "barbarian," derived from Greeks' inability to understand other cultures' languages which were rendered onomatopoetically as "barbarbarbar"
Ups! The origins of folk etymologies are not necessarily "unknown" as much as they are seldom attributable to one source or author. The German word "Volk" in "Volksetymologie" comes about as a "germanized" version of the Latin "vulgo" meaning of the people, or of the masses. So "Volksetymologien" are etymologies based on common (though not necessarily accurate) knowledge passed on by word of mouth, as opposed to academic etymologies that are arrived at empirically based on the study of sources whose reliability is officially recognized by scholars (which btw has not always rendered academic etymologies more accurate than their "vulgo" counterparts). Fun fact: Though i am not sure i want to believe many English speakers presume "Hamburgers" are named for cured pork rump - seriously!? - we here in Germany view "Hamburgers" as an American food. We have a traditional specialty here that is similar from which the American "Hamburger" is likely derived but we call these meat patties "Bouletten", "Fleischpflanzerl" or "Beefsteak" depending on regional language variant. This popular comfort food is also made with mince like the US Hamburger, but fried onions, herbs and spices, day-old bread or bread crumbs are added then the mixture is usually bound with egg before being formed into patties and fried.
The word "new" comes from Old English "nīwe" or "neowe", not from German "nieuw" or Dutch "nijus". Those are cognates meaning they have the same origin as the word new, English German and Dutch all derive from Proto-West Germanic so many of the words in each language have the same origin, but the word new is a firmly English word that was not borrowed from any language and was therefore not borrowed from German or Dutch.
In any event Amerigo and Aymerik are the same name in different languages. Like the Premier League players Pierre *Emerick* Aubameyang or *Aymeric* Laporte. It's just a name that has existed throughout history and still continues to exist in some languages to this day. The angry flowers are f-ing hillarious BTW.
Have you heard about that one of the Inca Amaruca, like in the name of Tupac Amaru? It is supposed to mean land of the Plumed Serpent, major deity on continent.
There's a discussion, however, into why it was named "America", based on his first name and not "Vespuccia", based on his last name, as would be convention at the time. They didn't name Colombia "Christophia", for exemple.
@@caracaes Right. In fact, you'd be hard put to find any place that was named after someone's FIRST name. That makes the "Ameryk" story more creditable. Explorers were always naming places after the guy who paid the bills.
Quite a few assertions that the Amerri(s)que and Ameryk are thoroughly debunked though. Amerisque is in the area marked America on Waldseemuller's map and W didn't claim he named after Vespucci himself, that was claimed by later map makers. And the claim regarding the lost documents being deliberately also doesn't stand up. What these two theories, albeit lacking in hard evidence, do is help explain why Vespucci is the only explorer with land named after his FIRST name like he's royalty. They essentially provide additional support for naming the place America. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Just a minor nit-pick: I have not heard the word spoken before, but I am fairly confident that Ammerique would not be pronounced a-MAIR-i-kyoo. Que at the end of a word is a hallmark of some of the Romance languages, especially Spanish and French. The word, of course, is indigenous, but its spelling would have been determined by Europeans based on the way that it sounded to them in their own spelling system. I suspect that it is probably Spanish, where que is pronounced kway, so the word would be pronounced a-MAR-ee-kway; if it is French, the ue at the end would be silent, and the word would be pronounced a-mair-EEK. Incidentally, the folk etymologies for NEWS are amusing, but not especially convincing for anyone who knows French, where the word for news is nouvelles, which literally just means "new things," just like the word news does in English.
Massachusetts is named after a hill in Milton, Massachusetts, used by the Algonquin tribes who lived in the area. Canada is the name of a river valley near Montreal, again used by the local Indians. The French explorers mistook it for the land along the St Laurence River.
Another incorect thoery is that America comes from the latin world for sea: "mare" or the german word "mehr", which represent the big sea between Euope and the new land mass, which later become America.
The weird bit about America is that's it's named after his first name. I gather that's unusual. I think that's why so many people are looking for another explanation.
America is not a country, the United States of America is. America as seen on the video is a land mass that stretches from Canada to Chile and includes two continents and hundreds of islands around these continents and most notably in the Caribbean. .
Amérique is simply the French realization of America. /Ca/ [ka] unstressed became /ce/ [kə] became /que/[k]. The pronunciation of Amérique is [a.me'ʁik'] not ['a.me'ri:.ku] like he's pronouncing it.
The only time folk etymology pissed me off is when I got a bar trivia question about "which canned food company was named brothers Boyd, Art, and Dennis" and the "answer" was Chef Boyardee (in reality Ettore Boiardi/"Boyardee" was a real guy who started canning his pasta and sauces). I was too weak-willed to call out the host on it and lost 10 points. :( Good ol' Snopes reporting btw: www.snopes.com/fact-check/chef-boyardee/
Wasn't in Devon was it? Talaton Inn? My aunt would run the trivia night there and the customers kept it amongst themselves when she had the answers wrong. So long as they were having fun they didn't care.
@@t.o.4251 What some may see as spineless others might see as flexible. Anyway, nothing wrong in choosing your fights; if only I could actually remember that more often. Ha ha!
Koreans are people who migrated from mainland China during the Japanese colonial era. Koreans were forcibly incorporated into the Japanese colonial states of Korea Empire and Manchuria Empire, and to this day they are learning fake colonial history. Currently, Koreans are the royal families and nobles of the continent, who were driven out and forcibly moved to the peninsula and established a government after the fall of Japan. The ancient country of Korea is the Sang Dynasty, which is called Dangun Joseon(chosen). More precisely, it means from the Hongsan civilization to the Shang Dynasty gija(箕子) period. Also, the term Hangeul was coined by Japan with the intent to distort history. The term glishi refers to Korean characters, which has the same term as English, and existed before the ancient country of Dangun Joseon. After that, it is separated from English. King Sejong did not create text. All characters around the world have existed since ancient times. English and all languages are rooted in Korean language. www.gelssi.com/
i'm surprised you didn't do the for unlawful carnal knowledge thing. i'm pretty sure it's not true. would you? i think fuck comes from latin, but i'm not sure of that either
I've found that if someone is telling me the etymology of something, and it's interesting, it's probably not true. Although the 'boring' true etymology is actually interesting. That's why we're here - right, guys? (Can someone help me with the punctuation of that last sentence.)
@@LunaBari it is Friday 13th here because our calendar is season based and starts on the first second of spring and last second of winter and i thought I would mention it because it is a fun coincidence (also i think Friday 13th is an American thing so i am safe)
@@FelipeSantos-xq4tc Iran if you are interested in our calendar it is called the Iranian/Persian/Jalali calendar made by khiam (persian scientist poem mathematician astronomer and other stuff) and i am not sure about the century but before the mougal/mongol invasion
Here is something I find ironic. The rapper poet Tupac was named after a South American from the first people group. But this man is named after an Inca god who is white.
Tupac Amaru II was an indigenous noble who led a big uprising against colonial Spanish rule in the 1700s. He became a big symbol of rebellion for independence. His name comes from the last Inca ruler, Tupac Amaru, who was killed by the Spanish in the 1500s. Tupac Amaru means "Shining Serpent" in quechua, a native language of Peru.
It's like an oral form of pareidolia a need to see patterns where there aren't any our brains logically want to make connections and draw conclusions and when presented with this kind of information that once pointed out seems obvious the desire to share it and spread that enjoyable feeling of comfortable understanding is strong sometimes it's hard to accept that a cloud is just a cloud and it doesn't care if it looks like a kitten to you or words are just words because people decided to say them and there is no deep meeting there is no clever order. also ties into the existential dread that the Universe really isn't full of some great design care how you see it it just is shit am I high or something no idea where I was going with this
It's América not Américas. It's one continent. Has been one for over 40 million years. There are two subcontinents one in northern América and one in southern América. But it's one continent America.
I must have misheard Patrick too! I heard him say the 1565 document was destroyed in a 1560 fire! Luckily, he corrected himself in a comment at the top of the comment section. The 1560 fire actually happened in 1860.
Well, not exactly. Watch Knowing Better’s video I believe it’s called “in defense of Columbus”. It’ll explain better than anyone else I’ve ever seen what exactly they were thinking at that time.
Why do you want to celebrate a war you lot *LOST?* I heard a co-worker once ask an English guy, "Do you guys have the 4th of July?" He said, "Sure, just like you lot have the 5th of November."
Stories of myth vs true history. Yes true history is important, but I have found the myth version more interesting. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
1:31 “Ernst Fusterman”? 1:36 “Fuksetimaladschie”? I may not speak German, but I can tell that these deliveries sounded wrong. And “Amerikyoo”? Since it’s Spanish, shouldn’t it be “ah-meh-ree-keh”?
My favorite folk etymology (I've also heard them referred to as ghost etymologies) is the story of the origin of the name of a soon-to-be defunct instant pancake mix, the name about to be retired thanks to reasonable political correctness. Post-civil war, there were still many southern homes that kept ex-slave women to take care of the house, including the kids. She would spend so much time with them that sometimes they would mistakenly call her their mother, their "mama." The mammy would correct the kid's mistake speaking with her heavy southern accent as she replied: "Ain't jeh maima."
Its Ain't yo Ma'me! and Mama would say She isn't you Mama she is Aunt Jemma. And the ordinal picture was changed in the early severity's or late sixties, I don't remember which, and you do not like pancakes, how about hoecakes if you know what that is?
@@sohopedeco Well,it is likely,I mean,if people dismiss such basic things as news as originating from acronyms it would seem reasonable to assume the same thing would happen with the words radar and laser,although it's just a case of how educated people will be in the future
Around the 09:30 I got some numbers a bit jumbled up. Apologies for that. The record claimed to be from 1495 was actually from 1565 as I wrote, but for some reason said 1564, and that record was lost in a fire in 1860 not 1560 as I said for some reason, the document didn’t travel back in time and get caught on fire lol. I don’t know if number dyslexia is a thing, but if it is I have it.
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You mean the record claimed to be from 1497?
I vaguely remember that it first fake etymology of news was in fact an old campaign of BBC World Service TV
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My favourite folk etymology comes from a popular joke in Cork, Ireland:
When the city of Dubai was being built, all Irish workers came over to help build it. When it was finished, the mayor came to the workers and said "You've done such a good job that we'd like to name the city after you"
The Irish workers replied "Ah do bai"
("Ah" being just a part of speech like "uh" or "um".
"Do" on it's own used to say "Go ahead" or "You can do that".
"Bai" or "Boy" is a popular addition to speech in Cork similar to saying "Like" or "You know" at the end of sentences)
R u from Ireland 🇮🇪 cuz I am and never heard cuz I am from louth but I will tell it
very interesting
@@Tjmce I'm from Cork. Probably wouldn't the joke up in Louth since "Bai" is a very Cork part of speech
There's a similar joke about the city of Ufa in Russia.
An old man and his wife were going up the hill. Finally they reached the top, and stopped to rest. The man said "Uf" (an exclamation after a hard job being done), and his wife, not having quite heard him, asked him "Ah?" (An exclamation that means something like "what did you say?"). And that's where the city was built and got its name from.
@@isaac_aren I do get it the bai part kind of cuz my paternal grandmother is from Waterford and my father uses the phrases most of the time ⌚ and we go there every year so I got it lol 😂 and it was actually funny
There's a folk etymology that the Portuguese word for "thank you" (obrigado) might come from Japanese ("arigato") or vice versa. In fact, both are core vocabulary of their respective languages, even being created by conjugating existing verbs.
This could be reinforced by the fact that "tempura", a japanese dish, does come from interaction with portuguese, from spices brought from india and the portuguese word "tempero", meaning spice.
There's a dish in Indonesia called tuturuga which is usually made with chicken. People seem to think that tuturuga is the name of the sauce used for the dish. The truth, however, is that this was originally the way Portuguese colonists cooked the animal tuturuga, but these days other meats are substituted for it because it's now illegal to eat this animal. If you're Portuguese, you can probably guess what the animal is.
@@caracaes Tempura has almost no spice. It's literally just flour-battered fried foods. The Japanese dish that does have Indian spices is kare, which is just curry. What makes your post really funny is that the name tempura did come from Portuguese, in this case the term quatuor anni tempora. Tempura in Japan is always made with seasonal vegetables and roots or shrimp and prawn (never meat) in the spirit of the original Portuguese term.
@@andrewsuryali8540 🐢
Japanese so take words from other languages. Like their word for part time work arbaitu, is from the German word arbeit which means, to work.
I was today years old when I learned the word "news" came from the proto-indo-European *Newo- 😶💀😶😝😱👁👄👁😱😱👀
English is a indo european language
@@stoopidphersun7436 r/wooosh
@@dracodistortion9447 dont tell me this is going on reddit
@@stoopidphersun7436 nah i don't have reddit anymore dhslhshdjlc
@@dracodistortion9447 To be fair,most people who use r/woooosh don't have reddit
I remember in like 5th grade this Hungarian lady came to my class and told us that America was indirectly named after some Hungarian guy called Emeric, because Amerigo Vespucci was named after him.
Saint Emeric , emeric is heinrich is henry
@@davidjacobs8558 Henry and Amerigo are cognates
@@jakubpociecha8819 So basically America is Henrietta then lol
@@crystalwolcott4744 Pretty much lol
America is named after Amaruca, Land of the Plumed Serpent.
as a kid ive always noticed new in news
Why.. You've ruined my childhood, my life, I will never forget this.. why..
Me too!
The north, east etc. one sounds way far fetched.
You should do another video covering other folk etymologies. Like the one I recently had to debunk for an 18 year old coworker who swore up and down that it was true. Shit stands for Ship High In Transit. I had to tell him the real origin is the German word for fecal matter and he didn't believe me until I finally explained to him that I know German and have studied etymology extensively for 20 years and then finally had to google and find a website with the real etymology of the word. The same coworker actually tried to convince me that the Navy developed a bullet proof paint and that's why all Navy ships are painted every day. I had to disabuse him of that notion by telling him that I was actually in the Navy and ships aren't painted every single day nor is paint bulletproof nor would that be necessary on a steel hull ship. He really just believed everything he read on the internet.
Igabod Dobagi Yes, I find that people are very fond of folk etymologies involving acronyms when very few words actually have that origin. (Also, most misunderstand what an acronym is in the first place.)
@@scottb828 indeed, you are correct. In fact, acronyms are a fairly modern concept. I can't be sure because it's been a long time since I studied this aspect of the English language, but I believe acronyms didn't start being widely used until the 1800s, by which time the majority of English words were already in existence. And the idea of turning acronyms into words is even more modern. People used to just pronounce the letters in acronyms instead of turning it into a word. For example, as recently as the Vietnam war, people pronounced the letters in the acronym for "away without leave" as A.W.O.L. Although some people were saying it as the word awol even in WW2, but it hadn't been solidified as the way to say it yet. So the idea of an ancient word such as ship being an acronym that is used as a word is laughable.
@@IgabodDobagi it really makes sense considering how many people were illiterate before then that acronyms were not a thing
@@aitor.online the idea that people were completely illiterate in the past is a myth. Most people could at least read a little in their own language. But in medieval and renaissance times, people were considered illiterate if they couldn't read and write Latin. They could still usually read their own language, but since that wasn't the language of the highly educated people it was looked down upon by the upper class. I'm not saying they could all read fluently, but they could usually sound words out and figure it out.
@@IgabodDobagi then that disproves my theory. i wonder why acronyms werent a thing earlier then
And I thought Folk Etymology is when a guy with an acoustic guitar and a harp tries to explain the origin of words to you.
Me after watching Name Explain after a year: He hasn't changed a bit
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It is very weird he looks exactly like his cartoon version. His cartoon version is above stick figure and it still captures his essence
@@MrGregory777 🤣🤣🤣 but his animation is a legend and its daebak :)
Can’t believe Name Explain was the only thing that reminded me an American that tomorrow’s our Independence Day
Petition to rename "North America" as Eriksland
It kind of is....
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Easier to get independence for each state and then rename the union: North American Mutual Buying Legislation Agreement. ;-)
Sorry, no. It's Turtle Island 100%!
@@mrs.morris5506 "America is such a male-privilegded country that the only way to change that would be to change it's name from America to I'm Erica" -GradeAUnderA
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I was taught in elementary school that it was named after Américo Vespúcio (Spanish for Amerigo Vespucci) that's how I learned it, that's how I taught it to my children.
This is funny, as it's certainly not something they teach kids in US elementary schools!
I went to a US elementary school. We learned about Vespucci as a contemporary explorer to Columbus, but not how. His name got changed to America.
@@douglasphillips5870 That story involves spies', stealing of important government documents and Austrian not German map makers and French paymasters.
@@douglasphillips5870 He sailed with Columbus and stole the credit back in Europe.
Amaruca, Land of the Plumed Serpent
Hey Patrick! Great video!
My favorite ghost etymology is the relationship between venue and avenue. A venue is a location, often circumscribed, like a concert venue. An avenue is a wide open road, not circumscribed. Sounds good but their etymologies are completely different.
BTW, I've used the word ghost instead of folk. I guess I think of folk as more related to folk song than folktale.
As someone who knew about the American people, I agreed their culture are pretty improvised sometimes
The version I heard I school in the 1960s - ‘70s was that Amerigo Vespucci was a cartographer who drew a map of Columbus’ voyage, and his signature on the map was misinterpreted as being the name of the new world.
Do you use the sketches app? It’s my favorite for drawing :D
I thought "permafrost" meant "permanent frost", but it actually comes from the Permian Age.
Are there other cases of turning an adjective into a noun by adding 's'?
"Highs" and "Lows" maybe? Probably quite a few🤔
An interesting question, I never thought about that before. "Shorts" is used for "short films" and "short trousers".
@@WaterShowsProd I've got the HOTS occurs to me ...
@@21stcenturyozman20 You've got the "goods" on us. :)
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Thanks for this video! I remember learning in school that it was named after Vespucci.
The connection to Amerigo Vespucci is even clearer when you realize that it was common at the time for scholars to adopt Latinized names and to write much of their work in Latin (presumably due to its role as the European lingua franca of the era). The Latinization of Vespucci's name was Americus Vespucius, with a C where his native Italian had a G. The one thing that puzzles me though is why the German cartographer based the name of the New World on Amerigo's first name rather than his last name, as tends to be the more common practice. Why am I not a citizen of the United States of Vespucia?
One theory is that it made it consistent with the names of other continents, which have feminine form and begin and end in vowels (although in English, Europe ends in a silent e, it doesn't in a lot of languages, often ending in a pronounced e ).
1:44 As a german speaker, I'd have guessed "Volksetymologie" would refer to the etymology of the (common) people, i.e. Layman-Etymology, as such an etymology for a word would sound convincing, but have no basis in scientific research.
Only just realized that Florida and the Bahamas do look sort of like a scaled down model of Indochina and Indonesia, respectively.
More videos on folk etymology would be very cool. I’m sure their would be lots of interesting subjects.
“Singing” was derived from the surname of Earl John of Syng, when he tried to speak twice.
And also. I am from Nicaragua and I never heard this theory about naming the continent America after the Amerrisque mountains.
I was at the beach last year with my children, when my then 10yr old daughter said: “it’s cool how they came up with the word sand” me: “what do you mean?” Her: “it’s between the sea and the land”. I had never thought of that before so I’m wondering if it’s folk etymology?
Favorite folk etymology has to be “fuck” being an adjective for “Fornicating Under Consent of the King”.
Fake etymology: Wyoming
What does it mean to Wyome?
Wy is it fake?
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I did not picture you with that hair but I love it
If you did a special on insect names would it be etymology of entomology?
NEWS as "NorthEastWestSouth".... NotableEventsWeatherSports... is typically considers a 'Backronym" a Pun/Portmanteau on Backwards Acronym
There is also another explanation why Amerigo and Ameryk are so similar, basically they are the same name. One is an Italian derivation of the German name Emmerich, the other is the Dutch derivation of the same name. Basically is like John and Juán.
As for folk etymologies, another interesting facts, is that often they can influence the evolution of a word, an example is dutch "hangmat" (hammock) that comes from the arawak word "hamaka" (through Spanish amaca"), but because "hamacas" usually "hang" and are kind of a"mat", the folk etymology of han mat actually changed the word to that. Another example is wormwood, which has kothing to do with neither worms or wood, but because the Old English word "wermode" kind of sounded like "wormwode" (literally worm-wood in Old English) it was changed to that because people believed it came from those words. The original can be seen more clearly in German "Wermut"
Y'all remember that scene in The Love Guru? "'Nowhere' just means 'now here'"
That word confuses the crap out of ESL learners.
Couldn’t help but notice that your Map of the U.S was missing Alaska,Hawaii and Rode Island
Here's a cool etymology.
While Germany is "Germania" in some Slavic languages, Germans are referred as a variation of "Niemcy", which means silent people/people unable to speak. Apparently in my native language of Polish it comes from our ancestors not being able to understand their language so it was kinda like they were unable to speak unintelligibly (In Polish Niemcy is used for both the country and the people instead of Germania)
reminds me of the origin of the term "barbarian," derived from Greeks' inability to understand other cultures' languages which were rendered onomatopoetically as "barbarbarbar"
Ups! The origins of folk etymologies are not necessarily "unknown" as much as they are seldom attributable to one source or author. The German word "Volk" in "Volksetymologie" comes about as a "germanized" version of the Latin "vulgo" meaning of the people, or of the masses. So "Volksetymologien" are etymologies based on common (though not necessarily accurate) knowledge passed on by word of mouth, as opposed to academic etymologies that are arrived at empirically based on the study of sources whose reliability is officially recognized by scholars (which btw has not always rendered academic etymologies more accurate than their "vulgo" counterparts).
Fun fact: Though i am not sure i want to believe many English speakers presume "Hamburgers" are named for cured pork rump - seriously!? - we here in Germany view "Hamburgers" as an American food. We have a traditional specialty here that is similar from which the American "Hamburger" is likely derived but we call these meat patties "Bouletten", "Fleischpflanzerl" or "Beefsteak" depending on regional language variant. This popular comfort food is also made with mince like the US Hamburger, but fried onions, herbs and spices, day-old bread or bread crumbs are added then the mixture is usually bound with egg before being formed into patties and fried.
Damper beard dude hope you don’t lose it. I’m not lying 👌
The word "new" comes from Old English "nīwe" or "neowe", not from German "nieuw" or Dutch "nijus". Those are cognates meaning they have the same origin as the word new, English German and Dutch all derive from Proto-West Germanic so many of the words in each language have the same origin, but the word new is a firmly English word that was not borrowed from any language and was therefore not borrowed from German or Dutch.
In any event Amerigo and Aymerik are the same name in different languages. Like the Premier League players Pierre *Emerick* Aubameyang or *Aymeric* Laporte. It's just a name that has existed throughout history and still continues to exist in some languages to this day. The angry flowers are f-ing hillarious BTW.
Have you heard about that one of the Inca Amaruca, like in the name of Tupac Amaru?
It is supposed to mean land of the Plumed Serpent, major deity on continent.
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I had never heard of the false entomology so I have always just assumed that news comes from the word new. It's good to find out I was right.
You should have talked about the folk etymology of the word elephantiasis.
Ive also heard this phenomenon called a backronym.
News is called news because it’s new. I’ve never understood why people feel the need to come up with a further explanation for it
Lol same,I guess the word news is used so much it stopped sounding like a word
I mean, the Vespucci etymology is one of the more fun real etymologies out there.
There's a discussion, however, into why it was named "America", based on his first name and not "Vespuccia", based on his last name, as would be convention at the time.
They didn't name Colombia "Christophia", for exemple.
@@caracaes Right. In fact, you'd be hard put to find any place that was named after someone's FIRST name. That makes the "Ameryk" story more creditable. Explorers were always naming places after the guy who paid the bills.
I would have referred to that NEWS thing as a backronym.
Actually, "hamburger" comes from the way upstate new yorkers refer to steamed hams, which ironically is not steamed and has nothing to do with hams.
This video is the basis for all those “fact” “did you know” pages
Quite a few assertions that the Amerri(s)que and Ameryk are thoroughly debunked though. Amerisque is in the area marked America on Waldseemuller's map and W didn't claim he named after Vespucci himself, that was claimed by later map makers. And the claim regarding the lost documents being deliberately also doesn't stand up.
What these two theories, albeit lacking in hard evidence, do is help explain why Vespucci is the only explorer with land named after his FIRST name like he's royalty. They essentially provide additional support for naming the place America. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Just a minor nit-pick: I have not heard the word spoken before, but I am fairly confident that Ammerique would not be pronounced a-MAIR-i-kyoo. Que at the end of a word is a hallmark of some of the Romance languages, especially Spanish and French. The word, of course, is indigenous, but its spelling would have been determined by Europeans based on the way that it sounded to them in their own spelling system. I suspect that it is probably Spanish, where que is pronounced kway, so the word would be pronounced a-MAR-ee-kway; if it is French, the ue at the end would be silent, and the word would be pronounced a-mair-EEK.
Incidentally, the folk etymologies for NEWS are amusing, but not especially convincing for anyone who knows French, where the word for news is nouvelles, which literally just means "new things," just like the word news does in English.
The best explanation for "Oregon" is that it is a misspelling of the French for Wisconsin.
Massachusetts is named after a hill in Milton, Massachusetts, used by the Algonquin tribes who lived in the area. Canada is the name of a river valley near Montreal, again used by the local Indians. The French explorers mistook it for the land along the St Laurence River.
Another incorect thoery is that America comes from the latin world for sea: "mare" or the german word "mehr", which represent the big sea between Euope and the new land mass, which later become America.
Meer is the correct word mehr means more
And there it is, the whole continent is one America, only later it was subdivided into north, central and south.
Whoa…so this guy is a real person, not just a cartoon with a green shirt!
Did anyone notice that the timestamp was 4:20
🤣 he looks like his cartoon version,,, the vibe is the same..
The weird bit about America is that's it's named after his first name. I gather that's unusual. I think that's why so many people are looking for another explanation.
Vespuccia!
Talky talky. Great voice, I know he enjoys it.
I always like to say America is a country that loves the rich so much, it's in the name: Ame Rica. Ame meaning love and Rica meaning rich.
America is not a country, the United States of America is. America as seen on the video is a land mass that stretches from Canada to Chile and includes two continents and hundreds of islands around these continents and most notably in the Caribbean. .
Amérique is simply the French realization of America. /Ca/ [ka] unstressed became /ce/ [kə] became /que/[k]. The pronunciation of Amérique is [a.me'ʁik'] not ['a.me'ri:.ku] like he's pronouncing it.
The only time folk etymology pissed me off is when I got a bar trivia question about "which canned food company was named brothers Boyd, Art, and Dennis" and the "answer" was Chef Boyardee (in reality Ettore Boiardi/"Boyardee" was a real guy who started canning his pasta and sauces). I was too weak-willed to call out the host on it and lost 10 points. :(
Good ol' Snopes reporting btw: www.snopes.com/fact-check/chef-boyardee/
Wasn't in Devon was it? Talaton Inn? My aunt would run the trivia night there and the customers kept it amongst themselves when she had the answers wrong. So long as they were having fun they didn't care.
@@WaterShowsProd Oh no this was a brewery in Massachusetts. Usually we DO confront the host about wrong questions but I'm a spineless person.
@@t.o.4251 What some may see as spineless others might see as flexible. Anyway, nothing wrong in choosing your fights; if only I could actually remember that more often. Ha ha!
Koreans are people who migrated from mainland China during the Japanese colonial era. Koreans were forcibly incorporated into the Japanese colonial states of Korea Empire and Manchuria Empire, and to this day they are learning fake colonial history. Currently, Koreans are the royal families and nobles of the continent, who were driven out and forcibly moved to the peninsula and established a government after the fall of Japan. The ancient country of Korea is the Sang Dynasty, which is called Dangun Joseon(chosen). More precisely, it means from the Hongsan civilization to the Shang Dynasty gija(箕子) period.
Also, the term Hangeul was coined by Japan with the intent to distort history. The term glishi refers to Korean characters, which has the same term as English, and existed before the ancient country of Dangun Joseon. After that, it is separated from English. King Sejong did not create text. All characters around the world have existed since ancient times.
English and all languages are rooted in Korean language.
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Folk News, is now how I'm gonna refer to it
Offering a jynnan tonnyx to anyone who wants to keep talking about folk etymology.
i'm surprised you didn't do the for unlawful carnal knowledge thing. i'm pretty sure it's not true. would you? i think fuck comes from latin, but i'm not sure of that either
I've found that if someone is telling me the etymology of something, and it's interesting, it's probably not true.
Although the 'boring' true etymology is actually interesting. That's why we're here - right, guys?
(Can someone help me with the punctuation of that last sentence.)
I always thought thats where the word news came from
I only eat authentic chicken burgers when in Chickenburg.
In my country today is Friday 13th
Also this is a really nice video
Are you serious about the Friday the 13th thing?
@@LunaBari it is Friday 13th here because our calendar is season based and starts on the first second of spring and last second of winter and i thought I would mention it because it is a fun coincidence (also i think Friday 13th is an American thing so i am safe)
@@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 where are you from?
@@FelipeSantos-xq4tc Iran if you are interested in our calendar it is called the Iranian/Persian/Jalali calendar made by khiam (persian scientist poem mathematician astronomer and other stuff) and i am not sure about the century but before the mougal/mongol invasion
@@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 So I guess for the Iranic people (Persians,Kurds etc.) the new year (or Novruz as they call it) is celebrated in spring
My favorite folk etymology is about the River Nile... named after John River...
Was not expecting that lol
10:35 "YOU WANT FOOL US"
I was today years old when I finally knew the full acronym of news
Here is something I find ironic. The rapper poet Tupac was named after a South American from the first people group. But this man is named after an Inca god who is white.
Tupac Amaru II was an indigenous noble who led a big uprising against colonial Spanish rule in the 1700s. He became a big symbol of rebellion for independence. His name comes from the last Inca ruler, Tupac Amaru, who was killed by the Spanish in the 1500s. Tupac Amaru means "Shining Serpent" in quechua, a native language of Peru.
It's like an oral form of pareidolia a need to see patterns where there aren't any our brains logically want to make connections and draw conclusions and when presented with this kind of information that once pointed out seems obvious the desire to share it and spread that enjoyable feeling of comfortable understanding is strong sometimes it's hard to accept that a cloud is just a cloud and it doesn't care if it looks like a kitten to you or words are just words because people decided to say them and there is no deep meeting there is no clever order. also ties into the existential dread that the Universe really isn't full of some great design care how you see it it just is shit am I high or something no idea where I was going with this
Isn't Amerique just French way of saying it?
It's América not Américas. It's one continent. Has been one for over 40 million years. There are two subcontinents one in northern América and one in southern América. But it's one continent America.
wait a second! i must've misheard or misunderstood you; it sounded like you said the 1565 record was destroyed in a fire in 1560
Yeah Dr Why droping documents all over time and space..
I must have misheard Patrick too! I heard him say the 1565 document was destroyed in a 1560 fire! Luckily, he corrected himself in a comment at the top of the comment section. The 1560 fire actually happened in 1860.
@@Hand-in-Shot_Productions thanks
o0 news is the plural of new…
It took until after 1501 for them to realize this new land wasn’t really Asia? Wow
Well, not exactly. Watch Knowing Better’s video I believe it’s called “in defense of Columbus”. It’ll explain better than anyone else I’ve ever seen what exactly they were thinking at that time.
Time stamp 4:20, eh?
Amerri---- kyoo. Jesus. NO way that came out of a Spanish mouth.
4:20 nice choice hmm
Why do you want to celebrate a war you lot *LOST?*
I heard a co-worker once ask an English guy, "Do you guys have the 4th of July?"
He said, "Sure, just like you lot have the 5th of November."
I do folk etymology in my head all the time, but I usually keep it there because I know it's probably BS.
YOU HAVE A FACE?!?!?!?!
Stories of myth vs true history. Yes true history is important, but I have found the myth version more interesting. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Willian Randof Hurst said some thing like that. As did Pullister both ran news papers at the turn of the Twentieth century.
2nd like 1 st view and 2 nd comments after name explain itself
1:31 “Ernst Fusterman”?
1:36 “Fuksetimaladschie”?
I may not speak German, but I can tell that these deliveries sounded wrong.
And “Amerikyoo”? Since it’s Spanish, shouldn’t it be “ah-meh-ree-keh”?
it wouldn't be spanish if it was a native word and would not have the same pronunciation. but I honestly don't know what the correct pronunciation is.
Ok
My favorite folk etymology (I've also heard them referred to as ghost etymologies) is the story of the origin of the name of a soon-to-be defunct instant pancake mix, the name about to be retired thanks to reasonable political correctness.
Post-civil war, there were still many southern homes that kept ex-slave women to take care of the house, including the kids. She would spend so much time with them that sometimes they would mistakenly call her their mother, their "mama." The mammy would correct the kid's mistake speaking with her heavy southern accent as she replied: "Ain't jeh maima."
Its Ain't yo Ma'me! and Mama would say She isn't you Mama she is Aunt Jemma. And the ordinal picture was changed in the early severity's or late sixties, I don't remember which, and you do not like pancakes, how about hoecakes if you know what that is?
When did folk become "foke??"
Sunglass Shinpan the same way "yolk" became "yoke"?
@stockart whiteman Or how people drop the t in christmas
You get more handsome, everytime you appear on camera!
Ta meri
Who ever reads this I hope you have a great 24 Hours
Do terms related to the 3rd reich have Volk etymologies?
I mean,the nazis believed various things,so I wouldn't be surprised
it's never an acronym , INAA
I wonder if people in the future will dismiss the etymologies of radar and laser as folk mumbo jumbo.
@@sohopedeco Well,it is likely,I mean,if people dismiss such basic things as news as originating from acronyms it would seem reasonable to assume the same thing would happen with the words radar and laser,although it's just a case of how educated people will be in the future
America = Amerigo Vespucci