I revisited Halo Infinite in 2023... it's GOOD now?!
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Let’s hope it is as I don’t want my favourite franchise to fail anymore.
The Halo franchise ended when Bungie sold it my guy lol
@@ponderingponderer3010 That… is true, the true halo did in fact end when bungies lead on the game ended. Let’s just hope 343 can recover whatever is left.
@The-Master-Chief I haven't played Infinite for that reason, but I was thinking about giving it a try and that's why I'm here. It's like having a favorite band but all the band members were replaced with random new people who are attempting to recreate the same music, it just ain't the same unfortunately.
@@ponderingponderer3010 Halo reach is the worst halo lmao. I'd rather play halo 5 than reach because at least halo 5's multi was fun
I discovered Halo via the MCC, about 2 years ago, and I played through all the campaigns, including Infinite. Up until about 3 months ago, I had never played competitive online shooters at all, but I decided to give it a shot with Infinite since I was familiar with the mechanics from playing those campaigns. I'm glad I did, now I grind ranked almost every day and have people from all over the world that I game with regularly, which is pretty cool.
Very nice! Glad you are enjoying Halo!
The lack of content is definitely what pushed me away from the game, the day they announced season 2 would be 6 months longer than it already was, I stopped playing. I still payed attention to the game however and watched the winter update role out and eventually season 3, played the events in season 3 but not more than that. Now I’ve been playing season 4 so much I don’t think I’ve put the game down since S4 started which is surprising to me. Halo Infinite is currently really good and I hope it does make a come back at some point. The leadership change was for the best, wish the old leads the best but I’m happy they are gone. This game is doing great right now and I hope it only gets better
About that, season 2 was never extended 6 months, season 3 was only pushed back 4 months, season 2 still ended after the original 6 months and its battlepass got vaulted, the 4 month gap was filled with the winter update season, it had everything season 3 was going to have except the battle pass, it's story, and the DMR, everything else still released with a mini 30 tier free battlepass.
Friendly fire exists in ranked, which I think is the only appropriate place for it, also firefight is coming next season but besides that I think this video is probably the most rational and fair criticism I've seen in a while! As someone who's enjoyed the game since launch I'm happy to see someone who left the game is willing to give it a shot today! So much has certainly changed especially since 343 achieved seasonality they have been constantly dishing out surprise updates and bug fixes to the game
Thank for the corrections! Glad to hear firefight is on the way!
Eh ... there are some social modes it's kinda wacky not to have it on. KotH or Total control, it's pretty silly that you can just bombard the objective zones with tank fire to deny opponents the ability to step in, while your teammate just sits there being unharmed by scorpion or wraith spam fire for the score.
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhufrom my experience playing Infinite for a long long ti.e, that has rarely ever been an issue, so less so that it's basically a non-issue.
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu yea no one really does that, opponents still have class
@@TheMinicrom it's perhaps going to be forgable PvE along with some other PvE modes for s5, and a full fledged firefight for s6
Because I’m an Australian, there are less players playing so when I do play it, I have to wait really long or there’s no matches for me to join.. The only game mode that has much rounds is quick play lol..
Try changing your location settings or VPN
Halo was never going to stay on top the way it was from 2001-2007. Even if 343 released flawless games. Its just not the current trend. The kids dont like arena shooters. They want hyper-twitch cod clones. Not to mention theres far more options for games nowadays. Dont just have to pick between Halo 3 and Cod 4.
I agree. I think no matter what the future holds, Halo will no longer be a juggernaut. That doesn't mean it has potential. Just a different market these days.
It baffles me why some people just don't get this. It's not really 343s fault that Halo can't reach the top like it did back in Halo 3.
@@REALMARCHINADERhonestly, I think they're doing the right thing keeping the arena shooter Halo afloat while outsourcing a battle Royale in the background.
Imagine if it really WAS successful and they made BILLIONS when it was free2play. They would've never kicked out the current management and their audacity would've risen beyond arrogance. Since because they thought they could rely on the HALO name to be popular by default. This is a great outcome for the majority.
Yea I’m so glad that this was kinda the final straw and they FINALLY got rid of Bonnie Ross, Frank O’Connor and more of the pathetic people who’ve been driving the direction of these games since 343 took over. Not saying Halo will be good now, but there’s at least some hope that future Halo games won’t be complete shit
@@zero1487 Bonnie ross and kiki needed to go ten years ago
Halo infinite's only purpose is to fund Halo Wars 3 production
I love it
Last i checked the hw series is dead
Lmao
I picked this game back up yesterday. Got placed Gold 6 in ranked arena and all 10 games I’ve played since I’ve gotten placed I’ve had a teammate leave or go AFK the entire match.
That’s normal unless your four stacking. Solo queing can be maddening.
@@DustedTaint it couldn’t honestly be that hard to implement a more penalizing system for ranked like other games have right?
@@STLtimmz they changed the amount of csr lost when rq to -15 but people don’t care still. And there’s a timeout after so many rqs not sure how much I wanna say 15 minutes. To me -15 is a lot so I just stick it out and take the -5 to -7 csr loss.
I just started playing Halo Infinite Campaign two weeks ago, it was more bugged than a day one-Bethesda release.
That's odd, I went through the campaign with very few bugs, now that I think about it, I can't remember ever getting bugs.
Enemies, even marines would fall through the "ground" and get stuck in the abyss.. occasionally I would drive a warthog near their location and the marine would "teleport" into the gunner seat. Then with a humble battle rifle, I would shoot an enemy and send them to the moon! It's quite spectacular, but dare I say... immersion breaking?
@@wallamazoo01 i have never had any such problems in any of my 5 playthroughs of the campaign. The closest thing i can think of would be a random time an energy sword got stuck in the ground
@@memeboi3448 could be a video graphics card encoder issue like early release with Fallout 3 and some NVidia cards. AMD has made some cool changes to their cards, so it wouldn’t surprise me if my issues were unique.
One point you made that i caught, theyve actually done quite a bit to implement it, that's cross core. Obviously its not EVERYTHING yet, but visors are cross core now, and they confirmed every coating released from this season onward will be made for every core. Not perfect, past stuff definitely still needs to be made cross core, but they actually have made some progress.
Firefights coming next season
Split Screen Co-op on the campaign it doesn't have that I don't play😢😠😡
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This game is 100x better than launch. I can't believe they launched it as they did with so much missing features. I think it's in a great place and don't mind picking up items in the shop here and there as they're fairly priced. Would recommend anyone pick it up if it's been a year or so
I am having a blast playing this game now. Definitely worth revisiting.
The game right now is in a great state, map and gamemode has great variety. The game itself is a lot more stable and at this point the amount of unique spartans you see every session is nice. If season 5 is firefight like its believed to be then the game will be content complete and we can just look forward to new modes.
Personally i like the cores having unique looks, armour pieces and helmets. In season 4 every coating can be unlocked for every core or if purchased is for every core, that to me is the most important part. My most wanted feature would be a locker room for presets of the same core.
i dont like the customization and color coatings, i wish the guns from the older game were added, the new guns that are supposed to replace them arent fun to use... so i dropped halo infinite and went back to MCC and well on the campaign side of things the open world is fun the first 2 times but quickly gets boring after that
@@heliosjollywolf9552that's your opinion, and I respectfully disagree.
those who are watching this video and have doubts about returning to the game the most fun modes for me are Big team Battle with random weapons, Fiesta and Squads with previous maps
I not gonna lie, I dont want player collision. I don't even want to imagine the number of times I would die from Body Block
Been there since the beginning of Infinite, the first flights. I've been through the dark times of the game, got burnt out, returned, and started enjoying it a whole lot more since the winter update.
I do admit the game has its issues, and that it felt too late that the devs were doing what we wanted them to do at launch, but I still find the game really fun, and I love the sandbox. Being optimistic really helped with my enjoyment of the game
yup, I take it for what it is, and I have fun when I play or even just listening to the menu music while I check twitter. I've been playing since launch on mouse and keyboard on my laptop. Excited for the future.
The physics feel off in this one, especially vehicles and grenades. 343 have also disabled friendly fire both here and in MCC. Those two ingredients, physics and friendly fire, are a crucial part of the Halo gameplay.
i started playing halo infinite and it still good. it still lack alot but there alot to appreciate
They really need to add friendly fire back. I used to always bait the enemy to kill each other with grenades, especially if I'm stuck.
The gameplay was always really good. I played day one and loved the campaign, although I know people had their beefs with it. Unfortunately, I'm only so good at multiplayer games, so I'm getting hammered in the multiplayer, but it's still a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to Firefight, as PvE is where I really love Halo.
I agree, the gameplay was always super fun, I loved the gunplay in Infinite. The lack of content at launch really bummed me out because there just really wasn't much to do
I'm glad you brought up aiming on controller, because not a lot of people do, and it's been an issue I've noticed with the game since launch. Compared to the MCC, aiming on controller feels kinda bad. I've tried messing around with the settings to find something that works, but even on the best settings for me, it still doesn't feel right. I know that 343 made changes to KBM aiming, and the players that use that seem to enjoy how the game feels now, so I hope they work on controller aiming soon. I think the only other thing I would add to this video and the list of things that still need work is the matchmaking system. Games are rarely, if ever, close. Games usually end with one team completely dominating the other. I can't remember the last time I played a match in Infinite that was relatively close in score. Also, spawn killing can be pretty rough in BTB (even Squad Battle) especially if the map has Wasps on it. I'm not sure if that issue would be fixed with more balanced matchmaking, or if the Wasp is the problem. In H3, the Hornet in MP doesn't have missiles like it's SP counterpart, so maybe doing something similar with the Wasp could make it feel more balanced.
It has definitely improved since season 1. Lots of new game modes, maps, forge, co-op, and all around a lot of positive things, however it still has some quirks that I would like them to correct. However, it has the potential to bring that old Halo feeling while keeping a fresh new aspect. It's getting there!
Its not 100% until we get the Halo 5 booty
Imagine season 6 just being a booty update lol
@@Solotocius I think there was literally a petition on the internet a while ago
But I have feeling particular "elements" in the developing team feel that will be 'sexist' (which ironically I'd say its the opposite)
@@sarim9574 idk at this point, I'd just like them to add another body type on the mp customisation which is just the feminine body type but with more ass (and optionally more breast)
The most crucial thing they need to add is a match composer like MCC. Desync needs to be fixed especially for melee. And good god does this game need more purple covie maps. Give me a Midship remake (not in forge) and less gray rock pine tree maps which are blannnnd.
I played Halo since the release of CE back in 2001. I took a brief hiatus during H4 and H5 while my family was growing, and my kids were very small and needed us constantly. I played Infinite since day one of launch. It is my favorite Halo, in spite of its many issues. The gameplay has improved dramatically since launch, and the content has expanded significantly. The desync and other network/latency issues are quite irksome. I think first and foremost I do need to make one correction: There IS friendly fire. It is however, exclusive to ranked. I feel this is appropriate. Social lobbies are a very broad spectrum of players, including children just getting their feet wet. I don't think they would have fun if every time they got into a firefight they got shredded by some other kid's team nade. And I know I would get pretty annoyed by it. Ranked is where people are more strictly held accountable for their actions, and punished more severely for errors.
The single biggest issue I have with this game (again, this is specifically for ranked), is because they made it free-to-play, it is saturated with Smurfs and boosters. It is extremely frustrating, queueing into your skill's lobbies, and getting shredded by someone who is of a way higher rank, boosting off their buddy's Smurf account that is showing a much lower rank, but is obviously a much, much higher rank. It is much more easy to identify now with career rank. When you're in a Platinum 5 lobby with a Diamond 5 and a Gold 3 that went like 5.5 K/D, and that Gold 3 has a career rank of Bronze Cadet, and you spent the last three days sliding from Diamond 1 to Platinum 3, it makes you want to uninstall.
I still love it though overall. And I have my better days where I am climbing. They make the not so great days tolerable.
Honestly, with 343 taking over at Halo Reach, I had a good outlook for what they could do. To this day, Reach had some of the best moments in Halo. But also had some of the worst multiplayer balancing. Then we got Halo 4 and it just started going down hill. Why could they not keep the same engine they used in Reach/Halo 3? It was better. Adding all this extra stuff and new weapons with new abilities, it convoluted the balance of the whole game. Even MCC has this issue with the excess of stuff that’s not needed.
It will recover, probably not to its launch peak but I’d say say back to healthy consistent player numbers.
I’m loving Halo Infinite now. It’s great.
Agree 100% about player Collison.
I just dont like that it doesnt feel like Im playing halo anymore. I just wanna play, get the armors that I personally want, and I dont wanna have to feel a fucking need to buy shit like a typical free to play game. I just want the old halo 3, reach, & 4 multiplayer back man. Peak halo multiplayer.
There has been a whole bunch of firefight leaks lately, and that combined with the fact that the current lore has Iratus (the Banished AI who hijacked UNSC's comm networks) sending signals to the Banished to come to the human base, pretty much guarantees that firefight fkr Infinite is gonna be released with season 5.
I know rec packs aren’t a thing but warzone ff was the only reason I played 5
I hope ff is fun in infinite
@@DeerestAshe I hope so too
Yes the game has improved byt Desync is a problem. I also dislike the imbalance in the weapon spawns and the vehicle spawns instead of having it having both sides having tanks they have random spawns I dislike that it ruins the gameplay.
Your BR reticle looks different to mine. How did you do that?
Different Field of View
there were a lot of reasons as to why the game launched the way it did and why its taken so long to get where it is now. these things don't justify what happened I was still baffled at the state of the game at launch and s1, s2. however I can't fault the devs doing all the hard work having important co-workers leaving cause of Microsoft's contract decisions, having to comply to your higher up's stupid decisions, having them infighting over what to do with the game , having absolutely no direction and working aimlessly on features that were either cut or not fully developed. loosing co-workers cause of their contracts must've been rough especially because games are developed by teams and I imagine a lot of important and capable devs were left behind because of this.
kind of a rambley comment. so yeah ima shit on management thats my stance on this situation.
mhm!! Pierre Hintze, the guy who fixed MCC, is now leading the charge for improving Halo Infinite. It's a big task given the mess he inherited, but even in the short months he's been in charge there has been a massive growth. Also, there are rehires for animators and other more developer/engineering roles to contribute.
The development of Infinite was beyond cursed, with factions within the organization, gross mismanagement, Microsoft making them use 18 month contractors to build and use a new and proprietary engine which greatly diminished effectiveness, and the old 343 leadership being crunched to make Infinite for the upcoming Xbox console at the time. The "Craig Reveal" and other aspects of the demo, asking for a year extension, Joe Staten contributing to trying to get the game "launchable" it was crazy they even got it out of the gate. Although other Micorosft/Xbox titles are forced to use Micorsoft Azure for their servers, Infinite and its rushed Slipspace engine had issues, which is why players in Oceania and regions outside of North America have more pronounced desync because of their own ping to the servers and the way Slipspace handles hit reg and lag correction.
ranked is still based on stats, aim is still super heavy and unresponsive, feels awful to get on target but once you do auto aim does it all for you, maps old and new are all still cut up COD style maps with the only team play being walking in a ball together, this game on controller feels awful, switching from apex, battlefield, cod or any other modern shooter you will fell like you are aiming under water in this game no matter what you make your settings. This will not be 343s 10 year title, its a failure and WILL be replaced in a couple years
The game is still absolutely terrible idc that they are finally reaching out to the community that doesnt make up for all of time they didnt and on top of that you said they fixed the xp??? crazy i played multiple games and had 20 kill games didnt even rank up like you should on a fking paid lvling system.
Ive already ripped into the game on steam and idc enough to do it again.
But i am sick of all of these youtubers claiming the games good with no details bc its not it still sucks in every way LOL
The game is absolutely better than it was when it launched, even than what it was at the beginning of the year. However, too little too late. They have permanently lost a majority of its player base and are never going to get them back. You can only be let down, lied to, and sold out so many times before you give up for good.
Why does it feel like every great franchise is dying? blizzard fans have to have the shortest end of the stick ever, what they did to overwatch is genuinely sickening with how much they have intentionally manipulated and shit on their own community.
Aiming is still funky in this game… I have no idea what they’re doing with that. Feels like I’m fighting it constantly, yet it is somehow somewhat better than it was early on…
Idk. Just odd. I can literally see it behaving weird in your gameplay at times…
Can't you make the video about the good changes as the focus? Or a separate one perhaps? Instead of what's still missing and confirmed coming back in a big way?
I mean, the content that was added that was "missing", is better than what came before as well. It's not just, finally getting the same content we've always had. Forge and the custom games browser for example are elevated to absolutely new heights for the series. The sandbox balance is spectacular and every new sandbox item has been nigh flawlessly implemented. The brand new modes never before in halo, have all been wonderful as well. (Hope we get last spartan standing again soon).
Or the hundreds and hundreds of free cosmetics since launch? There has now, officially, been more free customization given to players than all of bungies paid halo games combined.
They've done a lot, and a lot more is coming, and if this trend continues, at its best.
Is waiting for something that's free, really worth people not trying the game? Idk, I don't think so.
Still desync issues? WHAT?!
So this game is still a fking dumpster fire. Good to know. Thank you!
Is halo master chief collection online free like infinite
The game still feels awful on PC controller. I’ll play a few rounds of MCC, then hop into Infinite, and there’s just this constant feeling of ghost bullets. It never feels like Halo.
Great. Your comment about aim assist/acceleration is the reason I quit. It happens on console too. It's absolutely nothing like legacy Halo at a granular level. 20 years of muscle memory for Halo in the bin for what, so they could go free to play on PC? Chumps.
Where the camera rotation feature after u die? It didn’t work
It's for spectating teammates. I want to look at my spartan's drip tho, that's why I like Armor Lock bc it's funny and I get to take screenshots
I fully agree with you (all of it, mcc is still superior), alot of people just like to shit on everything 343 has done, yes they done alot and i mean alot of bad but they have done some good things aswell, and now that kiki wolfkill, bonnie ross etc are gone and hopefully the hireing freeze gets slowly lifted infinite will start to shine
In terms of sequels i do strongly really strongly believe that if they dont nail the next installment of the franchise that its pretty much a dead franchise, infinite is coming out of its coma so to say as we speak
#HaloWars3Now
For me the gameplay was also a problem, not just the content. Halo Infinite feels like a step backward from Halo 5.
Still no chat "all" option like in mcc or halo custom edition or h2v or halo online(eldewritto)
My core friends all love Halo and I'd say 80% of them will never return. I think if 343 leans into nostalgia baiting like they're starting to do, we may actually see the numbers go up a bit. They should really add a throwback arena playlist with a bunch of golden era Halo maps the way they did for Squad Battle, and they should actually remake a classic map using their assets rather than forge so its not all inferior ugly versions of beloved maps. They also should theme the next pass with classic armors and cosmetics fans are aching for. I don't get why they persist in adding the ugliest out of left field armor cores when the game is dying. We should get a MK VI core with Halo 3 armors which we have never seen get brought back. It's always the Reach versions that return, never H3. I think a return of Firefight, Warzone, and/or Invasion would boost the game a bit too. They also NEED to have individual items in the store instead of these 1700+ credit bundles full of garbage.
As I look at all that, I just know that would keep me playing fs, but it will never be enough to crank the numbers back to where the game was when it launched.
My biggest criticism for Infinite is having to buy a stupid season pass in order to actually customize your spartan. I already paid 60 bucks for a half assed campaign and you can’t even give me armor selections. I played it for 2 weeks when it came out and i haven’t come back.
You only have to pay for the battle pass one time. Each battle pass gives you 1000 credits so if you grind through, you can use those 1000 credits to unlock the next battle pass and so on. So for $10 you get a lifetime of premium battle pass options.
But if you absolutely didn't want to spend $10 on the game, then you still get all the free options as well as the numerous free event passes they drop every season. The amount of free content is pretty insane and significantly more fair than other free to play games on the market.
It's a F2P game my man, you're going to have to give a little. Like the guy above me said, once you pay for one pass you can store the credits earned and use that for the next pass. So if you're smart you only ever have to pay for one which is like $8, that's a pretty good deal.
On top of what the guys said above, there are also free items on the main battle pass usually at least one Helmet and Shoulders for MkVII and whatever the new core is. So in a way you have to "earn it"
Every battle pass has free cosmetic items for your spartan. And right now there's an all-free event pass. And another 30-tier pass that's all free. And free weekly rewards. I spent $0 on Halo Infinite for a long time and had several very custom spartans
player collision is there its just buggy oh and we shouldn't be praising them for adding features that should have been there at launch
We're appreciating the fact they actually bothered to add said stuff instead of just letting the game die
There's a vast difference between praise and appreciation, you know
You don't just praise someone for fixing the problem they've caused however neither do you stay negative when they do fix their problems.
we need a john cena collab that’s the only thing that can save halo infinite
In short. No it's not good
Tell me you know nothing about Halo without telling me you know nothing about Halo
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No
No it's not xD paid content for 95% of armor with the remaining 5% being behind a pay wall. Come on now don't lie for views man I like ur videos non the less but come on. Halo isn't halo anymore
Im not even gonna try and hammer common sense into your brain you are too far gone
I'm having a hard time trying to decrypt your comment
Halo infinite is just another 343 failure
L take
L take
@@Solotocius no you
@@memeboi3448 no you
@@synthwavespartan2808 double L take
It’s the best halo has ever been infinite is all I play. Incredible now. Always been good imo. Just a bunch of whiney no life kids
They need to fix the appeal system for bans. I got banned for no reason and they permanently banned me stating I cheated when I never cheat and I've played halo since the 1st Xbox. They don't give enough opportunity to defend your case. How can I cheat on a series x because I don't know.
What does other halo mp game have that this don’t. That’s dumb to say y’all didn’t play halo no way. Everything about infinite is better
player base made halo, player base isn't there. they lost their chance. this game needs to be put to rest