Criminal to fail to mention; when laneing against a Heimerdiner, you're not only getting poked endlessly, you're forced to listen to the same four voicelines endlessly
People dont hate fizz less, there are champs they hate more. To put it in numbers, if fizz is hated 100, now isnt that he is hated 50, but rather there are champs that are hated 500
That applies to a LOT of champions tbh. So much bullshit came out that redirects the major hate that their former most hated champs only crosses their mind when they play against them
Plus Yone and yasuo have nearly identical playstyles. Yone is just much more broken and unfair towards many more champs than yasuo that it takes all the vocal hate
It's like getting fed dog food every day. Then, they switch to serving dog feces. So when you occasionally get served dog food, it's at least not as bad as dog feces.
I still don't understand why Gwen was made to be a tank shredder. Her lore makes her to be a sort of antithesis to the black mist. How does tank-busting relate to any of that?
i disagree with you saying gwen has worse tankbusting than fiora or camille, her entire kit deals max health damage and she has a decent bit of true damage on her Q, not to mention she heals more the more hp her target has
@@Elimbi1all of her autos do max health damage, her E is a small dash and an attack speed steroid, and her Q does true damage in the center while also applying passive, I'd say she applies it very quickly and she usually heals a lot for it too
She have it, because unlike both Camille and fiora, her % damage is Magic damage. The only true damage she have is in the Middle of her Q, and only applies to the Q damage, not the passive
@@ignacioperez5479 camille struggles vs health stackers because she deals flat true damage, gwen doesn t struggle much vs either resistance stackers (she naturally counters health stackers) because she has the ability to build void staff.
0:14 i dont hate jinx but i physically cant play against her its like i get lobotomized the second she’s on an enemy team, and i cant explain it, my friends dont understand it and its not related to arcane
@ no matter how many languages people say that exact sentence in i still cant play against her. her skill shots track me down like i owe them money and her traps are as inevitable as thanos
where anathema chains riot said nobody used it while it was THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM IN GAME because of riot design team BEING BRAIN DEAD AND NOT EVEN KNOWING HOW THEIR GAME LOOKS
The reason "nobody" used it was because low elo is the majority and they don't read what items do lol. Mean items that legitimately have no excuse still being here aren't replaced
@@danielbarnes1241 yea i guess you are right but i think ppl used it a bit more on lower ranks then on higher not only because game was ending much faster on higher ranks but it was decided faster so ppl didnt need this item or wanted to go something risky to make a play and win game by fliping a coin but overall this item is needed SO SO SO MUCH because of stupid design team
I was a fizz otp with over 1000 games played on home when you posted part 3 of this series and couldn’t wait for you to make part 4 with fizz. Now 1900 games on fizz and I’m an Aurelion sol main for almost a year…
Actually, what broke gwen is the lack of AP bruiser items. That forces her to build full burst because, even if she have the strongest defensive option in the 4 seconds of her W, out of it she have not enough to last. So, she either take you down on those 4 seconds or die. And at the same time, she cant have those items because, at the moment she recieves them, mages will use them better than her, just like what happened with demonic embrace when it was launched by the first time
The fact that so many of the new champions are on these lists despite being hard nerfed/gutted should make riot take a good long look at their champ design process
Lets make a character with Physical, Magic and True damage, Shielding, Insane neutral pressure, An aoe knockup, higher crit chance for very slightly lower crit damage and a knockup on Q!!!1!@!1!
I will say the theme of Champions everybody hates is uninterruptible because a lot of the times the most broken Champions have ways of circumnavigating any decisions you make like Gwen and her ability to delete literally everyone Fizz and his ability to say no to literally everything smolder and his ability to not give a s*** what happened in any amount of the game beforehand because he scaled so on and so forth
As a OTP Smolder for the past 2 Months, the counter of Smolder is his own Team. The more Braindamage his team has to not fight with the Smolder and not let him farm, the Worse he is to the point of being useless. Happened 10% of my games where im on 100 Staks min 20 cause my team just Mental Boom and I take the punishment. Second of all, Smolder Doesnt Scale as Hard as Infinite Stackers or Evolvers, sience When you Get 225 Stacks you are on a latter part of the Mid game and that Power carryes over till lv 18 Where the Rest are Stronger than you and you go back to being Stronger than Evolvers After 400 Stacks and just be on Pair with others Infinite Scalers
I played pretty moderately back in the early 2010s. Came back around the early 2020s after pressure from my friends. Going up against Smolder as Trundle, it baffled me that pillar + my terrain + my Q slow wasn't enough to keep up with him. That mobility AND the damage he deals while traveling is just unacceptable. And then there's Ambessa. Your team can focus her down, but without cc, she just won't die. Tower diving doesn't even phase her because she will just shield/heal the damage from the tower while killing you. And then there's the infinite dashes. Forget trying to land skill shots, because she dodges after every auto. The only way I've found to kill her is to have a shitty player control her.
K’Sante was a vanguard warden assassin diver skirmisher all in one special with three dashes. The epitome of modern champ design. It wasn’t just that he was strong, it was that he was everything players didn’t like about modern riot turned up to 11.
Fizz almost makes me wish I could ban 2 champs because I never banned fizz once but I absolute hate him. It's just he's never been the priority and his play rate hadn't sprung up. Same for Sylas.
The main problem with smolder imo that he is just way too safe early compared to his late , for example kassadin and kayle are very strong late game because their early game is beyond shit , meanwhile smolder is just so safe and in solo lanes he straight up bully more than half of the matchups while still being the strongest champ late game
This honestly. You don't get punished for playing badly early game like with Kass and Kayle. You and your duo could basically play like lobotomy patients early game and you'd still carry late game as Smolder.
What I find unfair about Smolder is his ability to become relevent even if he's been shat on all game. My first ever game with the champ I was 0/9 down and hit 225 stacks at about the same time I got my second item. Enemy ADC had almost finished their 4th item. Despite that, the second I came online I became a major threat, to the point where the game ended with me getting a Quadra kill in a 2v4 with my allied Braum (kudos to the god-tier Braum who had to put up with my shit laning and still did everything he could to help me out). The 225 stacks is just such an insane power spike, it's ridiculous.
My personal beef is with morgana. I am a mono singed, you see. Morgana's Q has way too low of a cooldown for how much time it locks you for with little drawback for missing it while having a really high ap scaling and a massive hitbox. If you manage to dodge it and try to engage on morgana while she's supposedly vulnerable, she has the black shield to be CC immune. The black shield itself lasts for too long, to the point her Q cooldown wears of and she can use it again.
Agreed. The main difference is he has actual vulnerabilities, which gives his opponents options for counterplay besides just hoping that the Shen player sucks at playing Shen.
For K'Sante it also didn't help how he was forced into everyone's face through Riot's marketing campaign and the release Prestige skin nonsense during Worlds. Not only is he an abomination, but it was one that you couldn't ignore by not playing.
Does anyone actually hate Gwen (except toplaners who only play wholesome based gigachad chungus tanks and bruisers, who also think that walking straight at enemy while spamming autos is peak gameplay and counterplay is cringe) ?
I don’t really hate Gwen. In the right hands yea she’s especially annoying but it just a solid kit with some “extra” things that frustrates players. I played her a couple times and she’s pretty fun to play
0:14 I used to hate XinZhao, but then he stopped appearing in my games pretty much entirely over the last like year or 2. So. My most hated champs regardless of them being played or not though will always be Teemo, Singed, Leblanc, Fizz/Vlad(untargetable on demand like that is cringe), and Lillia.
vars idk if im wrong but whenever you talk about skirmishers the assassin teambuilder silhouette is used by your editor instead of the skirmishers teambuilder icon. fun vid to watch :D
"I bet there's even someone out there that hates sivir." Damn, you booked my friend. He's been fucking booked. As for why? He hates playing against poke. He also hates Lux, Vel'koz, Brand, and such.
Getting a new phone and not mentioning Wild Rift if only as a joke for still being in Beta is a missed opportunity, also yes uts technically still in beta since its not world wide yet
Twitch is in a terrible state right now. Yeah, it's incredibly annoying to play against him in mid and late game, especially if it's a Twitch with Yumi and your support is a brainless amoeba. But he has two weaknesses that override everything. 1- He's horribly weak in the early game. For example in my last game, even though my supp was an afk amoeba, I still got between the rat and his minions and kept him from farming. 2- While he is incredibly dishonest when it comes to killing an enemy Ashe from invisibility when facing Ksante Twitch is useless. Recently Ratirl had a moment that I caught on stream, when he was an AD rat with almost full build (already had edge and armor penetration) trying to kill Ksante, who by the way was under armor shred from black cleaver. 200 damage crits. 200! The problem is that Twitch's Ult doesn't give enough power to kill tanks. And the items and runes for shooters are weak. It doesn't matter if he goes crit or btrk, he won't do damage to tanks.
@@argumentumadhominem3977 It used to be even more fun. I lost one game due to the fact that it was impossible for a rat under ult to hit Nexus. I still remember that moment even though it's been years. I was soloing an enemy base and time was very short. That said, I suspected (though I'd never encountered it before) that attacks under ult might not damage the Nexus, but without that extra AD, I certainly wouldn't have had time to break it. So I took my chances... and lost the game. The projectiles were just flying past the nexus! And just a few days later a patch came out where they fixed this bug! Why not a week earlier?
@@Requilith Percentage damage for the ADC? Nah, bro, that's the wrong class. Riot are afraid to give ADCs even the standard 18 lethality on the Collector, and you're talking about percent health damage... Look at how they've nerfed BTRK specifically for ADC. And this is despite the fact that they made lethal tempo a bad rune for ADC as well.
I am definitly playing smolder as a quilty pleasure simply for the fact that he allows me to play with actual range instead of the pseudo melee 550 auto attack range that most adcs have. On top of that, he has, surprisingly uncharacteristically for an infinite scaler, some of the best wave clear in the game. This allows him to stall for time the way no other champ besides asol can. and i love it. Its definitely fricking obnoxious, but i adore this little guy.
"Shen and Taric wardens with low damage output" Disagree, I play most Wardens and the only one with low damage output is Braum. Tahm Kench, Shen, Taric, Poppy... They all have insane damage
Is it just me or does Braum feel less tanky than other wardens early game? His kit is great but I feel like I get shredded much faster as Braum compared to other wardens like Naut, Shen, Poppy, and Leona.
Me getting some artillery mage in aram vs the enemy team getting gwen. Ok, i guess. Butt lillia is near the top for hate. Not much that’s more annoying than someone who skips towards you, hits you with a branch and skips away fast enough to where good luck trading with that and your health drains away with spell burn.
To be entirely honest, there is always a reason to hate one champion or the other in the roster. If we really want to go through with this, it has to be the entire roster!
as a mid / adc main i really hate akali she’s so fricking fast and unpredictable and when you’re finally winning the duel against her, leaving her on 1 hp, she just hides in her smoke bomb and dashed away to recall. bruuuuh.
It shows you only play melee bruisers if you mention heimer. As a mostly mage/adc player i just don't care about the guy, against him i can farm for 20 minutes with no issue.
@@thebrsrkr6428 Well yeah but that means heimer is not an all around hated champion. If you mention every champion that counters an archetype you will mention every champion.
Twitch is hated? Weird, hardly here anyone complain about him, nor am I toxic on him. Like he's basic compared to... The other ones... (Looking at you Samira, Vayne, Zeri, Jinx, smolder... VAYNE! like at least twitch gets stealth and only once unless he gets a kill, I'd take that over a pain in the ass who can go invisible every two seconds and deals max health true damage which can't be built defensively against...). And idk, maybe it's cause I main one of Heimers true counters (Anivia) so I have no problem with him and because I'm a midlaners which he's rarely ever in despite being originally one, so I don't hate him much. ...Then again playing kat against him is nightmarish...
The fact that you don’t have Yone on this list is absurd. Yone is more hated and straight up a bigger problem in the league player base than 90% of the characters listed. In fact the only character arguably more problematic is K’sante and even he is a former shell of what he used to be.
Bro, I haven't played the game a ton in the last few years. I play a few games here and there, and I largely play support these days, because I like high action fighting lanes, and don't like worrying much about cs. Well, I tried a top lane game the other day, where I played shen for the first time in years. And the other guy picks Heimer. I couldn't even frickin cs under turret man, any time I challenged his turrets I got nuked. I originally thought his w would be a solid defense against them when I need to play aggressive, but nope, their laser attack completely ignores it. That was maybe the worst matchup I have ever experienced in my entire time playing league.
for me the problem is Riot is trying to make ADCs/Hyper carries have everything theyll need to succeed without relying on a team.....for a TEAM game. Akshan,Zeri, and now smolder. Like theres a reason people hate all of them or theyre balance nightmares(barring Ak idk how that guy avoids so many nerfs). Smolder is just super annoying to play against because essentially youre playing a mage - akin to Kog ap.....long range W for safe farming and poke is super frustrating to lane against. All 3 adcs i mentioned all have a "get away tool" which is nice when you're playing a solo game but it takes away the fact now these champs dont need an actual support or team support to scale into the game overall win it with right micro/macro
I personally dislike Yuumi for the sheer fact that she's even an option in the game. Honestly feels like a 4v5 with a Yuumi on my team, I feel pity for our bot lane every time the dumbass support locks in Yuumi because it's almost always guaranteed to lose. It's me. I'm the support.
Im a Twitch one trick. Im very friendly and nice. This character is completely sht. My W is not an ability. My E is a bad one. I have no mobility or tankyness. People just hate stealth. Did I mention that Twitch R can be dodged by just moving sideways...
@@ptbro3334 Nope. Im very nice. Why would I lie. Cope nothing brother ive been playing for 10+ years, Twitch W is terrible. E is mediocre. Wheres the lie. Yikes nevermind dont even answer. That pfp is disgusting.
@XFlav86X counterpoint the r does burst damage and slaps back others to max range of the ring while gwen can only stay in a specific area. And now we have two ulti cd reduction abilities with q also reducing the cd as well (experimental hexplate and ultimate hunter).
Wait wait wait... Who's gonna say no to Heimerdinger? And I don't even know which way you mean it, but sure I'll play him or play against him. Both fine. Feels very random, but ok.
Balancing a champion with ‘skill issue’ as the guiding principle is inherently toxic. It’s much better to give champions weaknesses so that they don’t have to be nerfed into oblivion just to be fair.
Garen definitely and Darius at times yea. But, Trundle and Trydamere feel even more brain dead because all you have to do is auto and be a stat stick that kills everything turrets especially
@@Blu_Moon_Owl I almost forgot about them since I don't face them that much but what i hate about garen and darius is the got annoying low cool down cc (garen science, and darius grab ) and how the deal damage even if they build full tank
@ Garen just naturally gets tankier with his W passive so if he’s ahead with CS, he basically has more resistance to any attack. Useful for him to survive but annoying for enemies
@@Called_Prismo Cuz they are juggernauts. If you cant/dont kite them, you get steamrolled. Also since when is 24-14 sec cd (darius E) considered low cd?
Xin Zhao is a CRAZY example of a champ people hate for no reason. Have you SEEN Xin Top? I’ve yet to see a Xin top who didn’t stomp lane. Not to mention a literal developer said that if you have an enchanter sit on Xin Zhao, he becomes too powerful. He’s easily able to do everything he needs to or wants to because the enchanter eliminates most if not all of his weaknesses.
This K'Sante milking is getting quite old, any content about him is super unoriginal and gets more shit on than actually is needed. Not watching this shit video afterwards
easily counterable doesnt have anything to do with annoying, in fact, being easily counterable might be the most annoying part, like malz, just dont interact with him in lane, boom countered, but very unfun
@ like everything about her past lvl 2, sure in ranked its not the worst thing, but if you want to queue up for norms after a long day shes one of the most frustrating champs to have to fight, not only in lane but after
@ so im league of legends theres consists of 5 roles, top, mid, adc(attack damage carry), jungle, and support. Gwen is a part of the top laners, meaning shes goes to the top lane, in the 3 lanes, minions spawn, being near a minion when it dies causes you to get exp, which helps your champion level up, the higher the level, the stronger your champion, each level up allows you to unlock/level up one of your abilities, each level also increases the majority of your fore stats, including resistances (such as armor and mr) health, attack damage, attackspeed ect. So when gwen is past level 2, she has access to all of her agilities, and slightly higher stats. Do you want me to rundown her abilities too? Playstyles? Wave management? I could do her lore but that doesnt seem useful here, then again you asked me about levels so
Dude... Can you make something new that is adding to the experience and not just complaining/negative/rage-baiting??? You are starting to become like BuzzFeed/Vice and not in the good way...
I was going to say "no one hates cho'gath" but then I remembered I played a game a few days ago where a guy was popping an artery over the fact I was playing him. Wild.
Eventually this is just going to cover every champion in league, that'd be the funniest way for this series to go.
Yeah every champion at least has 1 hater lol. Name one that doesn't
@@Souffle42 Braum.
@@johnjoestar5111hot take I've had since his release that I will not give up, Braum is a jerk who pretends to be nice, dudes so condescending
@@akenero3369Jacob Lash Vibes.
I said this back in like pt. 3, this community just hates everyone specifically
Criminal to fail to mention; when laneing against a Heimerdiner, you're not only getting poked endlessly, you're forced to listen to the same four voicelines endlessly
OH THAT SMELL OF SCIENCE
HMMM IT’S SMALLER THAN THE DIAGRAM
My sincere apologies for mentally torture you - a once himer main
42 JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THAT NUMBER
NO... NOT ALL THE ROCKETS
People dont hate fizz less, there are champs they hate more. To put it in numbers, if fizz is hated 100, now isnt that he is hated 50, but rather there are champs that are hated 500
That applies to a LOT of champions tbh. So much bullshit came out that redirects the major hate that their former most hated champs only crosses their mind when they play against them
@OrangutanPeeper yasuo and yone are the Best example. Yasuo is the same busted champion, but yone is SO busted that yasuo looks fair next to him
Plus Yone and yasuo have nearly identical playstyles. Yone is just much more broken and unfair towards many more champs than yasuo that it takes all the vocal hate
It's like getting fed dog food every day. Then, they switch to serving dog feces. So when you occasionally get served dog food, it's at least not as bad as dog feces.
@@ignacioperez5479 Tbf, Yasuo was always fair, once you know its strengths and weaknesses. Yone will always be BS.
I still don't understand why Gwen was made to be a tank shredder. Her lore makes her to be a sort of antithesis to the black mist. How does tank-busting relate to any of that?
Maybe she just shredds spirits of creatures instead of their flesh, so it does not matter how big your are
Idk she has a giant magical scissors, looks like a weapon that should be able to shred through tanks to me
If anything it makes her look more like an assassin
I always thought of it as she's the character embodiment of old cut down, with her using her scissors to cut down tanks.
scissors should lose to rock.
i disagree with you saying gwen has worse tankbusting than fiora or camille, her entire kit deals max health damage and she has a decent bit of true damage on her Q, not to mention she heals more the more hp her target has
But how quickly/consistently does she apply that though?
@@Elimbi1all of her autos do max health damage, her E is a small dash and an attack speed steroid, and her Q does true damage in the center while also applying passive, I'd say she applies it very quickly and she usually heals a lot for it too
She have it, because unlike both Camille and fiora, her % damage is Magic damage. The only true damage she have is in the Middle of her Q, and only applies to the Q damage, not the passive
@@brosam_ Each needle from her R also applies the %health passive, it's almost impossible to not apply it lol
@@ignacioperez5479 camille struggles vs health stackers because she deals flat true damage, gwen doesn t struggle much vs either resistance stackers (she naturally counters health stackers) because she has the ability to build void staff.
0:14 i dont hate jinx but i physically cant play against her its like i get lobotomized the second she’s on an enemy team, and i cant explain it, my friends dont understand it and its not related to arcane
she’s so easy to beat.. just don’t let her get ahead and dodge skill shots lol
@ no matter how many languages people say that exact sentence in i still cant play against her. her skill shots track me down like i owe them money and her traps are as inevitable as thanos
@@viictxriia "she's so easy to beat just play the game"
the beauty of every adc is that if they get hit with anything they die, especially against asassins
That's funny the same thing happens to me with Veigar
I hate this disgusting mage that can build tank and os design
where anathema chains
riot said nobody used it while it was THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM IN GAME because of riot design team BEING BRAIN DEAD AND NOT EVEN KNOWING HOW THEIR GAME LOOKS
The reason "nobody" used it was because low elo is the majority and they don't read what items do lol. Mean items that legitimately have no excuse still being here aren't replaced
@@danielbarnes1241 yea i guess you are right but i think ppl used it a bit more on lower ranks then on higher not only because game was ending much faster on higher ranks but it was decided faster so ppl didnt need this item or wanted to go something risky to make a play and win game by fliping a coin
but overall this item is needed SO SO SO MUCH because of stupid design team
I agree
I was a fizz otp with over 1000 games played on home when you posted part 3 of this series and couldn’t wait for you to make part 4 with fizz. Now 1900 games on fizz and I’m an Aurelion sol main for almost a year…
Look how the times have changed
The calming voice with the occasional swearing is just...perfection
Actually, what broke gwen is the lack of AP bruiser items. That forces her to build full burst because, even if she have the strongest defensive option in the 4 seconds of her W, out of it she have not enough to last. So, she either take you down on those 4 seconds or die.
And at the same time, she cant have those items because, at the moment she recieves them, mages will use them better than her, just like what happened with demonic embrace when it was launched by the first time
The fact that so many of the new champions are on these lists despite being hard nerfed/gutted should make riot take a good long look at their champ design process
1 Yone
2 Yone
3 Yone
4 Yone
5 Yone
Lets make a character with Physical, Magic and True damage, Shielding, Insane neutral pressure, An aoe knockup, higher crit chance for very slightly lower crit damage and a knockup on Q!!!1!@!1!
I miss when zed and yasuo were the most wildly hated champs, i miss it a lot.
They used to be a trinity for me, including Riven. Now almost every modern champ is annoying to be dealt with. 😂😭
@@julsegs seriously!! zed had 3 dashes and yasuos windwall was the worst thing in the game to me and others and now it's just like... oh no
I used to hate Fizz until they released at least twenty 200 years champions
I will say the theme of Champions everybody hates is uninterruptible because a lot of the times the most broken Champions have ways of circumnavigating any decisions you make like Gwen and her ability to delete literally everyone Fizz and his ability to say no to literally everything smolder and his ability to not give a s*** what happened in any amount of the game beforehand because he scaled so on and so forth
As a OTP Smolder for the past 2 Months, the counter of Smolder is his own Team. The more Braindamage his team has to not fight with the Smolder and not let him farm, the Worse he is to the point of being useless. Happened 10% of my games where im on 100 Staks min 20 cause my team just Mental Boom and I take the punishment.
Second of all, Smolder Doesnt Scale as Hard as Infinite Stackers or Evolvers, sience When you Get 225 Stacks you are on a latter part of the Mid game and that Power carryes over till lv 18 Where the Rest are Stronger than you and you go back to being Stronger than Evolvers After 400 Stacks and just be on Pair with others Infinite Scalers
Rat IRL being mentioned will hopefully bring his soul rest 🙏 may he glide into more backlines in the afterlife.
I love Smolder they made ADC players into an actual character, a crying piss baby thats insanely overpowered
ohhh i have that phone. Really good. So good i almost downloaded wild rift
Lol I play wild rift on an ipad from 2015
I played pretty moderately back in the early 2010s. Came back around the early 2020s after pressure from my friends. Going up against Smolder as Trundle, it baffled me that pillar + my terrain + my Q slow wasn't enough to keep up with him. That mobility AND the damage he deals while traveling is just unacceptable.
And then there's Ambessa. Your team can focus her down, but without cc, she just won't die. Tower diving doesn't even phase her because she will just shield/heal the damage from the tower while killing you. And then there's the infinite dashes. Forget trying to land skill shots, because she dodges after every auto. The only way I've found to kill her is to have a shitty player control her.
K’Sante was a vanguard warden assassin diver skirmisher all in one special with three dashes. The epitome of modern champ design. It wasn’t just that he was strong, it was that he was everything players didn’t like about modern riot turned up to 11.
I mean Fizz only stopped being my permaban when Yone came out, but whenever I face a Fizz, it makes me wish I could ban 2 champions.
Fizz almost makes me wish I could ban 2 champs because I never banned fizz once but I absolute hate him. It's just he's never been the priority and his play rate hadn't sprung up. Same for Sylas.
The main problem with smolder imo that he is just way too safe early compared to his late , for example kassadin and kayle are very strong late game because their early game is beyond shit , meanwhile smolder is just so safe and in solo lanes he straight up bully more than half of the matchups while still being the strongest champ late game
This honestly. You don't get punished for playing badly early game like with Kass and Kayle. You and your duo could basically play like lobotomy patients early game and you'd still carry late game as Smolder.
What I find unfair about Smolder is his ability to become relevent even if he's been shat on all game. My first ever game with the champ I was 0/9 down and hit 225 stacks at about the same time I got my second item. Enemy ADC had almost finished their 4th item. Despite that, the second I came online I became a major threat, to the point where the game ended with me getting a Quadra kill in a 2v4 with my allied Braum (kudos to the god-tier Braum who had to put up with my shit laning and still did everything he could to help me out). The 225 stacks is just such an insane power spike, it's ridiculous.
My personal beef is with morgana. I am a mono singed, you see. Morgana's Q has way too low of a cooldown for how much time it locks you for with little drawback for missing it while having a really high ap scaling and a massive hitbox. If you manage to dodge it and try to engage on morgana while she's supposedly vulnerable, she has the black shield to be CC immune. The black shield itself lasts for too long, to the point her Q cooldown wears of and she can use it again.
As a Darius main Heimer is probably my number 1 hated champ. That matchup is unplayable.
my hatred born when he was meta support and still will stay same with ashe being meta support this 2 made me quit watching esport at this time
Nah Shen doesn’t deal low damage, bro is the most similar thing to ksante imo
Agreed. The main difference is he has actual vulnerabilities, which gives his opponents options for counterplay besides just hoping that the Shen player sucks at playing Shen.
For K'Sante it also didn't help how he was forced into everyone's face through Riot's marketing campaign and the release Prestige skin nonsense during Worlds. Not only is he an abomination, but it was one that you couldn't ignore by not playing.
Does anyone actually hate Gwen (except toplaners who only play wholesome based gigachad chungus tanks and bruisers, who also think that walking straight at enemy while spamming autos is peak gameplay and counterplay is cringe) ?
Me play Mundo, me hate Gwen (and the 4 horsewomen for that matter)
I don’t really hate Gwen. In the right hands yea she’s especially annoying but it just a solid kit with some “extra” things that frustrates players. I played her a couple times and she’s pretty fun to play
I really don’t think she’s hated much anymore, vars is just one of the ones who holds onto grudges and remembers the dark days.
@ ok that’s fair. I feel bad for mundos going into Gwen. I would feel bad for sions too, but they play sion and are therefore beneath pity.
I play a lot of Garen and yeah, Gwen is more annoying than hated.
Teemo, on the other hand? Absolutely fucking Satanic.
0:14 I used to hate XinZhao, but then he stopped appearing in my games pretty much entirely over the last like year or 2. So.
My most hated champs regardless of them being played or not though will always be Teemo, Singed, Leblanc, Fizz/Vlad(untargetable on demand like that is cringe), and Lillia.
3:21 to pieces ?? gwen mentioned
Who tf DOESN'T hate corki????
people hate xin zhao because of holdover hatred of release xin zhao, the biggest nightmare on the rift
vars idk if im wrong but whenever you talk about skirmishers the assassin teambuilder silhouette is used by your editor instead of the skirmishers teambuilder icon. fun vid to watch :D
"I bet there's even someone out there that hates sivir."
Damn, you booked my friend. He's been fucking booked.
As for why? He hates playing against poke. He also hates Lux, Vel'koz, Brand, and such.
CAITLYN. Is that just me..?
caitlyn is one of the most banned in emerald+ so yeah ig
I hate her too but tbh I don't put her in the same league of hated as like YONE (or Teemo in any time limited events)
I h8 her because good Caitlyns are IMPOSSIBLE to kill during the laning phase
Nah. Anytime I'm bot/supp I ban her.
Cait is my perma. Never laning against that champ again.
The fact that Yone does not come up once in these videos bothers me so much.
Getting a new phone and not mentioning Wild Rift if only as a joke for still being in Beta is a missed opportunity, also yes uts technically still in beta since its not world wide yet
Gwen is immune to hate
best part of that twitch section is that while he is saying that the twitch player is saying "Wait for me" in chat lol
Twitch is in a terrible state right now. Yeah, it's incredibly annoying to play against him in mid and late game, especially if it's a Twitch with Yumi and your support is a brainless amoeba. But he has two weaknesses that override everything.
1- He's horribly weak in the early game. For example in my last game, even though my supp was an afk amoeba, I still got between the rat and his minions and kept him from farming.
2- While he is incredibly dishonest when it comes to killing an enemy Ashe from invisibility when facing Ksante Twitch is useless.
Recently Ratirl had a moment that I caught on stream, when he was an AD rat with almost full build (already had edge and armor penetration) trying to kill Ksante, who by the way was under armor shred from black cleaver. 200 damage crits. 200!
The problem is that Twitch's Ult doesn't give enough power to kill tanks. And the items and runes for shooters are weak. It doesn't matter if he goes crit or btrk, he won't do damage to tanks.
maybe they need to make his passive scale with AD or make it percent health damage, or something like that
Movement speed counters his ult. Try hitting someone like Lillia.
@@argumentumadhominem3977 It used to be even more fun. I lost one game due to the fact that it was impossible for a rat under ult to hit Nexus. I still remember that moment even though it's been years. I was soloing an enemy base and time was very short. That said, I suspected (though I'd never encountered it before) that attacks under ult might not damage the Nexus, but without that extra AD, I certainly wouldn't have had time to break it. So I took my chances... and lost the game. The projectiles were just flying past the nexus!
And just a few days later a patch came out where they fixed this bug! Why not a week earlier?
@@Requilith Percentage damage for the ADC? Nah, bro, that's the wrong class. Riot are afraid to give ADCs even the standard 18 lethality on the Collector, and you're talking about percent health damage... Look at how they've nerfed BTRK specifically for ADC. And this is despite the fact that they made lethal tempo a bad rune for ADC as well.
I am definitly playing smolder as a quilty pleasure simply for the fact that he allows me to play with actual range instead of the pseudo melee 550 auto attack range that most adcs have. On top of that, he has, surprisingly uncharacteristically for an infinite scaler, some of the best wave clear in the game. This allows him to stall for time the way no other champ besides asol can. and i love it. Its definitely fricking obnoxious, but i adore this little guy.
my predictions: shaco, corki, garen, yumi, yone, yassuo, xerath, anne, teemo, kasante, mundo
have you not watched the previous episodes
"Shen and Taric wardens with low damage output"
Disagree, I play most Wardens and the only one with low damage output is Braum. Tahm Kench, Shen, Taric, Poppy... They all have insane damage
Been picking up Shen and yea he can do work and be a big tank for your team
Is Poppy a warden though?
@ I believe so. Warden deter engagement which poppy definitely can do
Is it just me or does Braum feel less tanky than other wardens early game? His kit is great but I feel like I get shredded much faster as Braum compared to other wardens like Naut, Shen, Poppy, and Leona.
@ maybe because you got to utilize his E Shield ability more, it gives him damage reduction while blocking projectiles
Me getting some artillery mage in aram vs the enemy team getting gwen. Ok, i guess.
Butt lillia is near the top for hate. Not much that’s more annoying than someone who skips towards you, hits you with a branch and skips away fast enough to where good luck trading with that and your health drains away with spell burn.
To be entirely honest, there is always a reason to hate one champion or the other in the roster. If we really want to go through with this, it has to be the entire roster!
Tofugraphics did an amazing job. Would love to see it more.
00:18 xiinzhao is hatable and sivi got a spell shield
im sorry did you just say Gwen doesn't have tank busting capabilities like Camille?
With this how many champs have we covered now? About 25 now?
as a mid / adc main i really hate akali she’s so fricking fast and unpredictable and when you’re finally winning the duel against her, leaving her on 1 hp, she just hides in her smoke bomb and dashed away to recall. bruuuuh.
Honestly, I was expecting 5 instances of Yone going by past experience.
It shows you only play melee bruisers if you mention heimer. As a mostly mage/adc player i just don't care about the guy, against him i can farm for 20 minutes with no issue.
"Why do melee players hate anti-melee champions? I play ranged and I don't get it"
@@thebrsrkr6428 LMAO
@@thebrsrkr6428 Well yeah but that means heimer is not an all around hated champion. If you mention every champion that counters an archetype you will mention every champion.
Twitch is hated? Weird, hardly here anyone complain about him, nor am I toxic on him. Like he's basic compared to... The other ones... (Looking at you Samira, Vayne, Zeri, Jinx, smolder... VAYNE! like at least twitch gets stealth and only once unless he gets a kill, I'd take that over a pain in the ass who can go invisible every two seconds and deals max health true damage which can't be built defensively against...). And idk, maybe it's cause I main one of Heimers true counters (Anivia) so I have no problem with him and because I'm a midlaners which he's rarely ever in despite being originally one, so I don't hate him much. ...Then again playing kat against him is nightmarish...
1:03 he accidentally gave a face reveal off the reflection of his phone
He revealed himself a few videos from now actually
The fact that you don’t have Yone on this list is absurd.
Yone is more hated and straight up a bigger problem in the league player base than 90% of the characters listed. In fact the only character arguably more problematic is K’sante and even he is a former shell of what he used to be.
Bro, I haven't played the game a ton in the last few years. I play a few games here and there, and I largely play support these days, because I like high action fighting lanes, and don't like worrying much about cs. Well, I tried a top lane game the other day, where I played shen for the first time in years. And the other guy picks Heimer. I couldn't even frickin cs under turret man, any time I challenged his turrets I got nuked. I originally thought his w would be a solid defense against them when I need to play aggressive, but nope, their laser attack completely ignores it. That was maybe the worst matchup I have ever experienced in my entire time playing league.
5:05 well.. death is a stun
Teemo and shaco are ROLLING in their graves
for me the problem is Riot is trying to make ADCs/Hyper carries have everything theyll need to succeed without relying on a team.....for a TEAM game. Akshan,Zeri, and now smolder. Like theres a reason people hate all of them or theyre balance nightmares(barring Ak idk how that guy avoids so many nerfs). Smolder is just super annoying to play against because essentially youre playing a mage - akin to Kog ap.....long range W for safe farming and poke is super frustrating to lane against. All 3 adcs i mentioned all have a "get away tool" which is nice when you're playing a solo game but it takes away the fact now these champs dont need an actual support or team support to scale into the game overall win it with right micro/macro
L9 Mafia boss mentioned Those who Know
11:40 is that the legendary player that solo killed Dopa?
i hate xin zhao top lane you are so right
I personally dislike Yuumi for the sheer fact that she's even an option in the game. Honestly feels like a 4v5 with a Yuumi on my team, I feel pity for our bot lane every time the dumbass support locks in Yuumi because it's almost always guaranteed to lose.
It's me. I'm the support.
L take
Praying for Lux to be in this video
Ok but Gwen feels so much worse to play after that mega nerf :(
Just champs? How about balance and items, but yes some kids are absolute kancer.
Well, im hoping to see viktor there now
Tiamat items video soon! PLEASE!!!
Im a Twitch one trick. Im very friendly and nice. This character is completely sht. My W is not an ability. My E is a bad one. I have no mobility or tankyness. People just hate stealth. Did I mention that Twitch R can be dodged by just moving sideways...
You started the lie by saying friendly and nice, then continued to throw some cope texts😂
@@ptbro3334 Nope. Im very nice. Why would I lie. Cope nothing brother ive been playing for 10+ years, Twitch W is terrible. E is mediocre. Wheres the lie.
Yikes nevermind dont even answer. That pfp is disgusting.
5:44 isn’t Xin’s ult pretty similar? He doesn’t take damage from people outside his circle, plus it moves with him exactly
1. It's his R, so he can use it way less frequently
2. Unlike gwen's, it doesn't give armor and mr
@@XFlav86X the most important thing is that u can still hit and CC, you dont see your Ashe arrow go trough xin
@XFlav86X counterpoint the r does burst damage and slaps back others to max range of the ring while gwen can only stay in a specific area. And now we have two ulti cd reduction abilities with q also reducing the cd as well (experimental hexplate and ultimate hunter).
Wait wait wait... Who's gonna say no to Heimerdinger? And I don't even know which way you mean it, but sure I'll play him or play against him. Both fine. Feels very random, but ok.
heimer is so real. for sure in my top 10
If u lose to ksante is a skill issue at this point
Balancing a champion with ‘skill issue’ as the guiding principle is inherently toxic. It’s much better to give champions weaknesses so that they don’t have to be nerfed into oblivion just to be fair.
THEY HATE ME COZ I LOVE TEEMO
Yone,yuumi,aurora
I hate no champ.
Where is shaco?
Vars face reveal? 1:05
G W E N I S I M M U N E
3:40 the word is horseMAN. Horseman is already neutral, no need to be overinclusive.
It's funnier that way
You have a point, but Vars didn’t invent that meme. I also think it’s funnier this way.
gwen should be nerfed but sadly she is immune
What about Darius wnd garen?
For me they are the most annoying brain damage champions
Garen definitely and Darius at times yea. But, Trundle and Trydamere feel even more brain dead because all you have to do is auto and be a stat stick that kills everything turrets especially
@@Blu_Moon_Owl I almost forgot about them since I don't face them that much but what i hate about garen and darius is the got annoying low cool down cc (garen science, and darius grab ) and how the deal damage even if they build full tank
@ Garen just naturally gets tankier with his W passive so if he’s ahead with CS, he basically has more resistance to any attack. Useful for him to survive but annoying for enemies
@@Called_Prismo Cuz they are juggernauts. If you cant/dont kite them, you get steamrolled. Also since when is 24-14 sec cd (darius E) considered low cd?
@@Rodriguez-2718 kite a Darius with ghost Deadman's plates nimbus 😅
Video finally starts at 2:25 ...
i hate corki more then any champ in the game except tahm kench
Xin Zhao is a CRAZY example of a champ people hate for no reason. Have you SEEN Xin Top? I’ve yet to see a Xin top who didn’t stomp lane. Not to mention a literal developer said that if you have an enchanter sit on Xin Zhao, he becomes too powerful. He’s easily able to do everything he needs to or wants to because the enchanter eliminates most if not all of his weaknesses.
Smolder is definitely in my top 5 most hated
Vars I love u
Revert aatrox
Bro you keep crying about ksante yet you dont even bother to look at his kit when complaining. He still has a reset on w when using r.
I think that was noted in text in the video
FISH
The worst part about Gwen’s W is that even if you can play inside her mist, she still gets bonus MR and Armour while inside it.
@@DunningofKruger it's the idea. She is supposed to be good at 1v1, so that is HER space. Kinda like trundle's W
Corki is my least favorite champ in the game, proud to represent the Corki haters 🫡
This K'Sante milking is getting quite old, any content about him is super unoriginal and gets more shit on than actually is needed. Not watching this shit video afterwards
I don’t think smolder is hated like aurora
nah he for sure is (im the smolder hater)
I love him.
Disney champ whith colgate damage
Nobody gives a fk about aroro
@@sassysaddles9981 except top laners (me)
COOL
How do people think gwen is op or extremely annoying shes so easily counterable
easily counterable doesnt have anything to do with annoying, in fact, being easily counterable might be the most annoying part, like malz, just dont interact with him in lane, boom countered, but very unfun
@ what about gwen is so unfun? She gets wrecked in lane cause her early is garbage.
@ like everything about her past lvl 2, sure in ranked its not the worst thing, but if you want to queue up for norms after a long day shes one of the most frustrating champs to have to fight, not only in lane but after
@@jdee7185 what is the “everything past level 2” reffering to
@ so im league of legends theres consists of 5 roles, top, mid, adc(attack damage carry), jungle, and support. Gwen is a part of the top laners, meaning shes goes to the top lane, in the 3 lanes, minions spawn, being near a minion when it dies causes you to get exp, which helps your champion level up, the higher the level, the stronger your champion, each level up allows you to unlock/level up one of your abilities, each level also increases the majority of your fore stats, including resistances (such as armor and mr) health, attack damage, attackspeed ect. So when gwen is past level 2, she has access to all of her agilities, and slightly higher stats. Do you want me to rundown her abilities too? Playstyles? Wave management? I could do her lore but that doesnt seem useful here, then again you asked me about levels so
Dude...
Can you make something new that is adding to the experience and not just complaining/negative/rage-baiting???
You are starting to become like BuzzFeed/Vice and not in the good way...
I was going to say "no one hates cho'gath" but then I remembered I played a game a few days ago where a guy was popping an artery over the fact I was playing him.
Wild.
What champ were they playing? Because that's gotta be skill issue if they're having that much trouble against a Choggers.
@@bored_boar
Nasus of all things.
Heimer in WR is OP. He is usually my ban.
Ima bet on Ksante being #1 and Yone 2nd, tho Vayne is also a good pick
Shaco is forgotten
first lets goo