Charlie Parr teaches me the SECRET to 817 Oakland Avenue
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2024
- Charlie Parr, along with his trusty steel bodied guitar from Mule Resophonic's, stopped into the shop the other day to talk about one of my favorites from his Smithsonian Folkways release, Last of the Better Days ahead, "817 Oakland Avenue". By the sounds of it, a lot of you have been trying to learn this one but have come up against a wall, so here we go!
In this video we’ll talk about everything that makes this song unique. We're gonna go into the picking patterns, the chords, the custom made Fraulini 12-string Todd Cambio made for him that he used on the record (similar to the one you saw in my recent 12-string video with Todd Albright) , and the secret weapon Charlie uses to make it all possible, the Shubb Partial Capo.
Also, going off of lessons I’ve done here with Charlie in the past, I know there are going to be a whole pile of you looking for tab for this one. As a bonus feature at the end, Charlie and I offer a little insight about tab, and why there won’t be any for this tune. That said, I will be popping in and out of the video to show a few of the finer points in playing this tune.
Enjoy!!
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Was trying to figure this out the other day! Thanks man, Charlie is my favorite and i love your channel
That’s awesome! Yeah no other way to really do it without the capo. Glad you’re digging the stuff!!
I have a basic cheap capo I reversed , flipped around and it does the same deal. No special capo needed. Able to play this beautiful song with it .
This is a great Video for Charlie fans me being one , who enjoy learning and playing his songs . This song is a Beautiful good feeling song .Will I buy a partial Shubb to learn it? WHY NOT ? Thanx Kyle ...and much thanx to Charlie for his time in doing this video !
You're the Tommy! Dude I for sure recommend this little capo whether you learn this song or not, been super fun!
Have played this since first came out. Had the hammer, on the D chord. But...have been 'faking' (relatively saying) that next hammer mostly, that follows. Yep, fair enough, now I got it the right way. Though, I still kind'a like my initial way, sloppy as it is. That's as the way you both explain hitting the major parts and adding some "Spider John" to it. Cheers to you for this one.
Dude that's awesome. Yeah man keep playing it how you do, now you just have a little variation you can add!
Using the ear and one’s interior creative musicality, this is what allows one to make the song your own. It is the artistic expression we make when we play a song, even when we attempt to play a song note for note. Thanks for this beautiful discussion with Charlie….. I have played for over 40 years and I do not believe I have ever played a song the exact same way twice. This is because I am not the same person, every time I play. I change from day to day, and so the filter through which I play and express music has changed too. We should not attempt to play the same way each time, that is what listening to a recording is for! So glad I found this channel!
Well said, Robert. I'm glad to hear it and stoked you found the channel too! More coming down the pike!
I burst out laughing when he said, I don't want to see the tab.
I should mail him a copy.
Thanks! This made me laugh with joy, I think, three times.
Thanks Jim! That's the best. Always a good time with Charlie around. More in the wings!
I've been wanting to learn this one. Thank you so much for the outtakes for extra detail.
Dude for sure! I thought it be helpful to punch in and out like that, glad it worked out for ya too. Good luck with it!
His face when you started talking tab. 😂😂😂 I can’t imagine that tab, but that video absolutely blew my mind. I have loved that song for so long! Get the rhythm right, and play C and D shapes. That’s it!? Beautiful, full song, but simple. Love it.
Haha, dude I'm glad you caught that. Just a classic reaction.
Love your channel Kyle !!! Very unique and inspiring !
Ah man that means a lot! Stoked your stoked on the vids! Appreciate you.
Another fantastic video and Charlie Parr song breakdown!
Thanks, y'all 🙏🏻🤍
Thanks Scott! Such a cool one. Loving this little capo.
Thank you SO much for your video!!!Much appreciated!!
Dude I’m stoked it helped!! Super fun vid to make.
Awesome! Would love a similar breakdown of Jaybird if you get the chance!
Thanks dude!!! Im actually playing fiddle on jaybird too so it’s a pretty appropriate ask! I’ll see what I can make happen.
Thanks requested this some time ago, now it all makes sense, 👍
Awesome!! Glad to help make some sense of this one.
Nice!
Thank you
Heck yeah!! Have fun with this one!
I’m so glad you made this video. Me and my friends felt like scientists trying to work out Wtf was going on with the song and (the few) videos
Hah, yeah man sometimes you just need the right tool!
Good stuff young dude. I have been away from your channel, and everybody else’s, for a while. Getting old is not for sissies. Glad to see your still doing good stuff. Love Charlie’s stuff. He’s younger that me. 😬
I’m an old drummer. I never learned to read music in school. Just rhythm patterns and rudiments. I started to learn to play guitar at 68 years old and started with acoustic fingerstyle. I have not been able to use tab very successfully. I have occasionally looked at tabs and used them to possibly clear something up. But usually it just confuses me more. I really prefer to see someone play something and then work it out from there. That is why RUclips has been such a boon for me. Their is a form of “tab” I guess you would call it that kind of helps me. There is a guy on RUclips that teaches guitar and uses his own for of “tab”. His channel is Fenna Rob. A famous British guitarist. His music is more old rock and roll and early folk stuff. He has an interesting take on teaching guitar.
Good to have you around again, I have been wondering where you're at! Been a slow getting back to comments for me too, my wife and I just had our first kid!
Good on you for starting up at 68! Never too late. I had a fiddle student who started at 70, figuring it's still 10 years until she's 80, and 10 years is a pretty good stretch of time to work at something!
I'll have to check out this Fenna Rob, I'm always looking for new ways to teach things too!
Again, good to have ya back Dan!
@@kostringworks Congratulations young dude! Enjoy the little one and always pay attention. They grow up really, really fast! We have two sons and seven grandkids. Don’t let this time slip away!
Kyle - "That would take some work"
Charlie- "That's why we're here 🤷♂️"
So sick
So basically DADGAD tuning with a regular capo on the 2 nd, fret
I do a bastardized version in open g. One of his best tunes in my humble opinion. Such a great song
I feel the same way. I told him that too and he goes "No it's not. I'm still working on on that one. It'll come back right before I mysteriously disappear".
Can you do a tutorial on rick hayward strolling home? Or morning after?
Not familiar with him or the tunes, but I’ll keep an ear out!
very lovely and interesting. do you mind if i ask what the brand/make of that patial capo is? thanks per the usual for the rad content .. .
Yeah It's made by Shubb, Partial Capo C7!
thanks, man! love yer channel, love yer playing, love the vibes .. .@@kostringworks
Great video, thanks!
By the way, what do you have clamped to your headstock by the nut?
Cheers!
That’s my huge-ass brass capo! I love it!
@@kostringworks Ha ha! Thank you.
Thanks Kyle and Charlie, great peek in. Hey Kyle, what's that 12 fret 0 body guitar you're playing, year/model? . It that the one you play the most??
For sure! It's my usual guitar yep, Fraulini guitar, the model is an Erma made it 2008!
As this was playing I was thinking, Didn't Charlie use a 12 string on Folkways? Then I remembered you had the Fraulini and I'm thinking, No way!
My productivity went way down ever since I got that damn guitar. Haha, but dude I'm stoked I had no idea this way the guitar he recorded that record with.
@@kostringworks I would be cancelling meetings all day to play that thing!
Is it a Shubb?
Yes! Charlie thinks Dunlop maybe makes one too.
Shubb C7b
Maybe my mental gymnastics are broken, but why can't you drop the E, B, E a whole step to play this without the partial capo? I can see needing it, though, if you wanted to fret a note on the E/B/E string higher than the partial capo.
Well dang I bet that would work! I’ll have to give it a go!
I did try just it, but unfortunately it doesn't do the trick. My mental gymnastics aren't limber enough to tell you why though on the spot. A good suggestion though!
Same intervals as DADGAD but up a step: EBEABE
Tried it, but nah that doesn't work. Close though!
@@kostringworks My point was the partial capo gives open strings EBEABE, same as DADGAD up a step. That's what it was designed for, to imitate DADGAD without having to alter the tuning. The way Charlie uses it is really cool!
@@rogerlandes6309 ah, yes I see! My bad!
I liked the discussion on tab, and not to be picky but you absolutely can tab partial capo stuff. Tab isn't perfect, you still need to listen to the song to get everything right, but you can use both tab and your ear, no need to be one or the other. I'm definitely with Charlie on the 'learn the pattern then comp the rest though'. That's how I approach nearly every song I cover these days.
Dig your perspective! Thanks for sharing. Noted on the tab for partial stuff, you're probably right, but it gives me a migraine trying to imagine it.
@@kostringworks If I was tabbing it, i'd do it from the nut but anything up to (which you can't play anyway) and including the capo would be zeros, then the next fret is just whatever fret it is from the nut like you'd see in a normal tab.