@nematvey Yes, its a display of a control module on the machine that constantly monitors the load placed on the end of the boom. It proportions the weight on the end of the boom to the machines rated maximum load capacity and gives that reading on the green display you see.
@xfilethe Earthmovers magazine did a feature on this recently and apparently it can be converted back to a digger in a couple of hours. Already some customers have purchased the machine with both a digging and pipe laying boom. I suspect that if the tracks were flipped underneath the frame, the machine would probably end up too high to transport on public roads. As it is, the fact that the machine is able to lift its own tracks and counterweight onto a trailer makes it pretty self sufficient.
I like it. I think its pretty cool that it can disassemble itself for transport. Major time-saver when going from job to job. The side boom probably has a higher lifting strength then an excavator arm, simply because its not lifting the weight of the arm with the load. Sometimes simple is good - cable lift is just fine, and you don't have to plumb the entire thing with high-pressure hydraulics either. Looks like a sensible upgrade of a side-boom.
byuhas57 is right!!! Machines have their place and this one is in a yard being used as a crane.There is no way that it can out work or be faster than a sideboom..I work pipeline and production is key!!! The right of way issues are this...A wider one DOES mean more time,cost and is even not possible in most areas.The allowed width can be as narrow as 60' and that is for ditch,pipe welding area and the travel lane..And then in most of these areas wooden mats must be placed to hold up equipment.
@1vachand1 and bash this machine, try it out and get a true idea of how good- or bad- it is. I do agree with you about the Vacuworx International though, it seems like a really good idea and I could definitely see it finding its niche in the future.
@1vachand1 I still think this machine has a lot of advantages over conventional sidebooms, which Volvo all said in the video- so i wont say them again to prove my point. Yes, you do need to widen the right of way a bit, but is it really that much hassle? Or are you and byuhas57 just nit-picking anything you two can think of? Widening the right of way by a couple of feet just doesnt seem like its that awful to me to be honest. Also, have either of you tried this machine out? Before you go
Widen the right-of-way? Are you kidding? It takes an army of lawyers to get a right of way now, do you really think we're just going to tell the pipeline company we need more room? Seriously!?
@byuhas57 Okay, so you need to widen the rightaway... so what? Maybe the way people have been laying pipes in the past isn't as good as i can be. Maybe Volvo is looking for new solutions to get the job done better, faster, and cheaper- its just a guess. Did you find evidence that the PL4611 can't keep up with the other booms? Or are you just making assumptions? What hoes with the vacuum on it?
With these machines the mats would have to be two sets wide..That couldn't be done in narrow areas and would cost to much.This machine might have a few benefits but would be limited on an actual ROW..Stringing pipe nothing is faster,safer,more productive and less labor intensive than a vacuum unit !!! Vacuworx International makes the best and there are many videos on here demonstrating so.No people have to be anywhere around it when it is being un-loaded making it very safe....
@jix177 oke cool , but i see no need for the pipe laying boom !! a sympel existing 2 jointed boom would do the same work , and would able agradual lowering like a set of davits does , there would be no modification wich takes time , a symple auto grab withe hook like on a digger would do to excange a multipe of tools , this mashine has bits that are not needed ea obsolete that have been copied from an old mashine. withe a colapeble cab the hithe of the mashine would stil meet road standards.
Id like to see one of those sling an 80'ft joint of 36" in a bending machine faster and better than an 83 with no weights. I bet it would fall on its eurotrash ass
@xfilethe I don't believe you completely understand what kind of machine this very specialized industry needs. They're working with massively heavy pipes all day, every day. So why would you want a machine designed for digging to do pipe laying work? I know I would want to use a machine designed for my industry so that i could use it effectively, in my industry.
i'm not in the field but that thing stil looks pretty conventional compared to other new volvo consepts , the tracks should flip inwards and not have to be detatshed so it can sit on the tracks on the truck , the arm should be like the one on a "steady cam" having more articulation have more hydrolics , it would be a much more versitile mashine that could be transformed withe a buket into a digger , thus beeing more worthe buying and recouping the investmant.
You couldn't lower 1km of pipe with that volvo, sidebooms there is 2kms lowered in within a couple of hours, unlimited,keep the volvos in the yard.. unlimited unlimited
This was a fail over here in America on volvos part , seen only one of these on a job and it was in the yard setting up pipe for the welders to test on lol . Good thinking out side of the box but let our cat sidebooms handle their own work Volvo
exactly, I used an EC290B to lift 7 tons pipes, I also had an rototilt and had 2 slings so I could line up the 22m pipes wherever I wanted. Didn't need anyone close to the pipes to put it in the welding rig. And I did not need that much of space as that donkey of a machine did.
+TheMango121 Excavators are less reliable, and slower in the pipe laying industries. Pipe Layers help the job get done faster than excavators in pipe-laying.
They never made it to any right of way i worked on. Ran a demo machine at my union's training center. Not impressed. Whatsoever. Way too overengineered and expensive
They are out there. Most of them are 4608 or 4809’s which are a bit smaller than the one in this video. They will out lift a side boom and lay pipe in far steeper terrain
I've seen this in person here in the states!I was surprised and pleased to see something new come to the pipe laying world!Congrats Volvo!!!!
A fantastic machine that increased production by 20%. Good investment, thanx Volvo!
Volvo is the best. It moves like a PRO
i definitely see the versatility of this pl but what makes it any different than a smaller crawler crane
@nematvey Yes, its a display of a control module on the machine that constantly monitors the load placed on the end of the boom. It proportions the weight on the end of the boom to the machines rated maximum load capacity and gives that reading on the green display you see.
What is a green indicator on the top? Weigth?
@xfilethe Earthmovers magazine did a feature on this recently and apparently it can be converted back to a digger in a couple of hours. Already some customers have purchased the machine with both a digging and pipe laying boom.
I suspect that if the tracks were flipped underneath the frame, the machine would probably end up too high to transport on public roads. As it is, the fact that the machine is able to lift its own tracks and counterweight onto a trailer makes it pretty self sufficient.
I like it. I think its pretty cool that it can disassemble itself for transport. Major time-saver when going from job to job. The side boom probably has a higher lifting strength then an excavator arm, simply because its not lifting the weight of the arm with the load. Sometimes simple is good - cable lift is just fine, and you don't have to plumb the entire thing with high-pressure hydraulics either. Looks like a sensible upgrade of a side-boom.
Nice machine, though too wide for most ROW's. Check out 5:09, all that room and the operator is still off the ROW.
You missed the concept...
byuhas57 is right!!! Machines have their place and this one is in a yard being used as a crane.There is no way that it can out work or be faster than a sideboom..I work pipeline and production is key!!! The right of way issues are this...A wider one DOES mean more time,cost and is even not possible in most areas.The allowed width can be as narrow as 60' and that is for ditch,pipe welding area and the travel lane..And then in most of these areas wooden mats must be placed to hold up equipment.
whats wrong with a side boom?
Ran one powerful but nothing can beat old friction rigs try getting under a power pole with one of these.
Sideboom much faster carrying pipe 2 nd gear will run circles around them
Amen
This is very paworfull machine
Good morning, hello thank you being beautiful,and the greatness for all you do. Goodnight.
Lowering 94, rollar slings, place 1.6 Km in trench each day. Mid inch machine 24 in or 610mm and smaller.
Ran one....needs a swiveling head out on the end...don't like it in the hills....but it's the start of a very good thing.
@1vachand1 and bash this machine, try it out and get a true idea of how good- or bad- it is. I do agree with you about the Vacuworx International though, it seems like a really good idea and I could definitely see it finding its niche in the future.
very tidy like it
i think it good for small Dim. but what about 66" dim??
&no need Pipe layers turnaround
@1vachand1 I still think this machine has a lot of advantages over conventional sidebooms, which Volvo all said in the video- so i wont say them again to prove my point. Yes, you do need to widen the right of way a bit, but is it really that much hassle? Or are you and byuhas57 just nit-picking anything you two can think of? Widening the right of way by a couple of feet just doesnt seem like its that awful to me to be honest. Also, have either of you tried this machine out? Before you go
Widen the right-of-way? Are you kidding? It takes an army of lawyers to get a right of way now, do you really think we're just going to tell the pipeline company we need more room? Seriously!?
kind of has to be that wide when lifting heavy pipes
@byuhas57 Okay, so you need to widen the rightaway... so what? Maybe the way people have been laying pipes in the past isn't as good as i can be. Maybe Volvo is looking for new solutions to get the job done better, faster, and cheaper- its just a guess.
Did you find evidence that the PL4611 can't keep up with the other booms? Or are you just making assumptions?
What hoes with the vacuum on it?
my opinion good for being in the yard...not on the R.O.W
Ya 583 H turned up id smoke it
@@edwardvaldiviez5612 w a straight pipe barkin all day. Absolutely!
With these machines the mats would have to be two sets wide..That couldn't be done in narrow areas and would cost to much.This machine might have a few benefits but would be limited on an actual ROW..Stringing pipe nothing is faster,safer,more productive and less labor intensive than a vacuum unit !!! Vacuworx International makes the best and there are many videos on here demonstrating so.No people have to be anywhere around it when it is being un-loaded making it very safe....
@MotoScootMech Thnx for an answer.
@jix177 oke cool , but i see no need for the pipe laying boom !! a sympel existing 2 jointed boom would do the same work , and would able agradual lowering like a set of davits does , there would be no modification wich takes time , a symple auto grab withe hook like on a digger would do to excange a multipe of tools , this mashine has bits that are not needed ea obsolete that have been copied from an old mashine. withe a colapeble cab the hithe of the mashine would stil meet road standards.
@nematvey Anytime, I enjoy answering those types of questions =D. Hope I wasnt too in-depth tho >.
@MotoScootMech No, no. Excellent:)
Id like to see one of those sling an 80'ft joint of 36" in a bending machine faster and better than an 83 with no weights. I bet it would fall on its eurotrash ass
id just buy a volvo 460 escavator.
@xfilethe I don't believe you completely understand what kind of machine this very specialized industry needs. They're working with massively heavy pipes all day, every day. So why would you want a machine designed for digging to do pipe laying work? I know I would want to use a machine designed for my industry so that i could use it effectively, in my industry.
ah, the 444 and 544 cars :)
Very Impressive ! Move over CAT ....
i'm not in the field but that thing stil looks pretty conventional compared to other new volvo consepts , the tracks should flip inwards and not have to be detatshed so it can sit on the tracks on the truck , the arm should be like the one on a "steady cam" having more articulation have more hydrolics , it would be a much more versitile mashine that could be transformed withe a buket into a digger , thus beeing more worthe buying and recouping the investmant.
any brand can do that. not only volvo. that's why there's crawler crane to do that. 😒
One track was off the row he's fired
I thought Germany and the e u wanted to get rid of pipelines and the oil industry
JUNK! this could never replace a workhorse like a 583k
They already have
It takes a boom a hour to transport,and 3 hours for one of those volvos, they dont belong on pipelines..
You couldn't lower 1km of pipe with that volvo, sidebooms there is 2kms lowered in within a couple of hours, unlimited,keep the volvos in the yard.. unlimited unlimited
power is nothing will is everything
Not my idea of laying pipe
This was a fail over here in America on volvos part , seen only one of these on a job and it was in the yard setting up pipe for the welders to test on lol . Good thinking out side of the box but let our cat sidebooms handle their own work Volvo
Or... just use an excavator
exactly, I used an EC290B to lift 7 tons pipes, I also had an rototilt and had 2 slings so I could line up the 22m pipes wherever I wanted. Didn't need anyone close to the pipes to put it in the welding rig.
And I did not need that much of space as that donkey of a machine did.
is new no problem. thank god it has the load management system yo
+TheMango121 Excavators are less reliable, and slower in the pipe laying industries.
Pipe Layers help the job get done faster than excavators in pipe-laying.
MrEpicMinecrafter12
Less reliable?
Well I mean, with legit pipe layers, you can get the job done faster.
and not last competitors are idling in the meanwhile!!!!
I am Oprater
It is not faster than a boom
They never made it to any right of way i worked on. Ran a demo machine at my union's training center. Not impressed. Whatsoever. Way too overengineered and expensive
They are out there. Most of them are 4608 or 4809’s which are a bit smaller than the one in this video. They will out lift a side boom and lay pipe in far steeper terrain
nice video too bad they suck