RELOOP RP7000MK2 SIDE BY SIDE TECHNICS SL1200MK2 VINYL TURNTABLES
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funny you posted this video. I had a pair of Audio Technica LP120x show up in the post today (minor upgrade to original lp120). Yes they are budget, they're not going to be as powerful in torque (but almost), they're not going to last as long and they're made of slightly cheaper material compared to technics, RP7000, etc. But they were £245 each and these are my first turntables.
I'm not a scratch DJ, so low torque is just fine, it'll allow me to have a light touch. I only play in my house, so I don't have to worry about them being safe to transport.
So many people say "spend a bit more, get second-hand technics", but you've gotta start somewhere. Many of the best DJs in the world started on shitty belt drives and faulty equipment. The 120x has everything I could possibly need to have some fun with, and I'm really looking forward to giving my small vinyl collection a spin
Couldn't agree more. I co-owned a pair of 1200's a few years ago and my mate moved to Australia and bought my share of them. I recently got the itch to mix again, and bought some LP120's. For the price, they are more than adequate and capable. I've had them for just over two years and they are still going strong.
I recently bought a set of LP120s also!
I have the ATH 120x and Reloop RP 7000 MK2. IMHO for the price difference it is worth to get the RP 7000 MK2 - better build quality, better motor, more precise pitch riding.
Hey man, I used to watch your videos around 15 years ago and I learned how to beat mix and calibrate my Technics thanks to you. Glad to see that you're still putting out quality content and helping the world dance to better DJ's.
Same here. 😋💪
@@zehplundershu6544 thanks
much love XX
Wow! Yeah I agree so much good stuff from this gentleman. A gentle man :) Thank you!
man what a legend you are. the first ever dj content youtube channel. good to see you keep rockin'
Just getting into this as a bedroom DJ, but have a little cash to spend on it. This is by far the most informative video I've seen, and I appreciate the straight-forwardness and lack of fancy "click the subscribe button" attitude. This bloke is the real deal, and I don't care that he's not using fancy RUclips production lighting and microphones. Thanks man.
Low key I really miss that part of RUclips. Talking to a human. Everyone’s trying to be so “production” ready it’s removed the best part of vlogging. The human element
Parts for 1210's are easy to find and for the most part cheap. Lots of third party spares available. Technics made about 3.8million of them also.
One of the greatest TT explanations ever tubed, even the analogies are excellent, was considering the 7000, now it's a done deal, thank you old chap.
Got a pair of 7k Mk2s and I do not regret the purchase
All super oem turntables outperform technics. Just saying.
One of the best comparision videos. i like it.
There are lots of companies making new parts for the 1200mk2. I am not sure why you say parts are hard to find and expensive for these "Classic Car of turntables."
If the Reloop is as reliable as the Technics by the time you need spares for it the parts will be just as hard to get as for the Technics 😀
Both my first pair of SL1200 in 1987 when I was 16 yrs old. Great turntables. they are legendary, durable, well built and the top tier of all turntables.
The greatest that ever was.
@@MirrorSurfer original 1210's will never be beaten, who actually cares about extra torque, pitch reset , reverse play , 78, Ultra pitch etc. I've never needed none of that shite and I've had 12's since 1983 (first set).
As for digitally controlled pitch sliders... don't even go there.
1200s look good but there time is up. Reloop has the top seat now. I personally have the RP-8000 MKII there is nothing like it on this planet. It’s like comparing an SP1200 to todays computers
@@vincestyles1030 I wouldn't know. last gig I DJ'd was in 2003.
For me the most DJ friendly, well thought out, and ahead of it's time deck produced since Technics was the Vestax PDX-D3.. Powerful motor, variable pitch fader settings, digital pitch display, variable pitch bend and jog toggle control, reverse, and the first to use the removeable target light. The massive downside though was the chipwood cabinet.
Vestax PDX-D3 > Technics 1200
People can tell themselves whatever they want but that is the truth
My favorite sl1200 is the M3D
Finally, someone who can admit that the technics is not the best at everything. Great?legendary turntable? yes, reliable ? Yes, but there are more options.
One feature missimg in reloop is the pressing of 33 and 45 at the time to speed beatmach.....relops are heavy,,,but great,,,sometimes to move them,,,,makes u think,,,they weight a lot, grat vid.
I like how you didn't go in to great detail about the history of the technics.. I'm sure there was other direct drive decks at the time but they weren't technics.. i saw a hip hop documentary and a budding young american dj who was forever experimenting with electronics one day went in to a shop like rumbelows and was looking for a turntable that can get up to speed very quickly and found the technics did that.. i guess technics realised what they had and improved on that turntable which meant it was going to be used pretty much everywhere.. radio stations and clubs ... that young american dj was grandwizzard theodore.. the turntable was possibly an original 1200 designed for home use.. it was the bees knees... the rolls royce of dj turntables ..everyone who dj'd had to have the technics...it was the rolex watch equivalent...
The new generation Technics SL-1200/1210GR (May2017) Turntable's are a revised Old School version from the Technics SL-1200/1210MK2 (October1979).
I think the current New School GR Generation has now been improved in the right direction.They are now again the new standard Professional Club Turntable's as before,only better.
Great😀👍🎼🎶☘
Real DJ's play Vinyl.
Save the Vinyl.
In the past I had the Technics SL-1210 MK2 with the ortofon Concorde Scratch (pink).
Now I have the current Generation Technics SL-1210GR with the ortofon Concorde Scratch MK2.That's are very good Professional Tool's.
Once ortofon and Technics,always ortofon and Technics.
A lifelong professional DJ accompaniment.
Great😀👍🎼☘🎶
@@PA-Freak98513RY the digital pitch in the GR is terrible, the mk2 is far better for long mixes, it stays locked unlike anything with a digital pitch
Maybe some things are different where you live,but the Technics never gave me any issues in 20+ years,except for i might need to change the RCA cables soon,Also,we havw 1200s in pawn shops,we can buy them,etc,etc,and they even made new Technics.i am curious about the Reloops though......
Just a thought....the most important thing on 1210 is the analog pitch fader.....its super super fine, I'm not sure you get that with digital pitch faster as it has stepping?
The only thing I hate about the 1210 is the center click of the pitch fader which they fixed on the mk3
@@digitalbase9396 but were mk 3 digital or analog pitch faders😉
The digital pitch was introduced in the mk5 deck according to Wikipedia, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technics_SL-1200
@@digitalbase9396 I think your right...I had my 1210 mk 2 faders replaced ....he replaced them with no click...although I kinda missed it for a while.
Mokum slipmat? Nice :).
You’re a character mate, very informative review.... I’m sold on the reloop, much appreciated...
Johnathan's got a big clock
I calibrated my technics thanks to you and synchronised them both together,that was back in the early 2000s,dont have them anymore,really miss em,but still dj a little,but no longer professionally in clubs..for the record !! pardon the pun,i miss that life/people incredibly !! Thanks johnathan !! :) x
If you beat mix and are used to an analgue pitch control, well you'll absolutely HATE this deck. It has a digital pitch controller :( and it's the absolute worst. Complete fail. If you're just getting a single deck for casual listening you won't care I guess.
Also, let's talk about the elephant in the room....why did they choose to make this look identical to a 1210? Seriously it's a complete rip off lol. But it's not a 1210 is it? And it never will be. It's sort of like buying a kit car of the classic car you always wanted. It may well be more reliable, but you'll always look it and think....it's not a 1210 though is it? 😬
Yeah - and that would mean that mk7 and m5g are also shit right (bcs of digital pitch) ? Get real
Mate, I’ve been watching your videos for many years now and you pretty much single handedly tought me everything about djing I know. Thank you so much for your videos, insight and honestly, I love your raw video style, so iconic ♥️
The torque is low on the 1200's compared to any of the newer turntables available now . If you have not worked on a high torque turntable i would suggest doing so., it does do a great job even on mixing. i love mixing on those, great for those fast blends.
It depends if your mixing records or not , if your performance DJ yes you might need high torque motors , but too much high torque pressure on any turntable motor will not be great mixing records , Technics has balance of everything really that's why it's industry standard
FSwift DJ mixing has to do with more with the pitch than the torque. Which is why the pitch drive is the most important thing. High torque makes you faster getting the music to the right bpm . But if you worked on the 1200 all your life and then Blend music with a plx1000 you can do it effectively
@@hot4futureyears2come you can mix records with digital pitch even on plx1000 etc but as all club vinyl djs will say, original Analog pitch is just better with the finer pitch adjustments , they all have same pitch in Technics just that new models use a binary system that counts in block whole steps then in half etc with Analog pitch , that's why digital pitch turntable won't stay in without pitch movement every few seconds or so compared to Analog pitch , you can move the plater etc with Analog pitch to keep it in time also , with digital pitch like plx1000 it just goes all over the place
with original Technics your not constantly chasing the tempo
Your on point , with digital modern turntable your chasing the tempo too much that hinders your fader or mixer creative flow if I can put that more clear lol
@Neale yes, some might say the perfect DJ turntable every made
@@hot4futureyears2come I recently had mix on the new Technics SL 1210 Mk7 , it's really good deck but when I compared mixing vinyl record on both , the sl1200 MK2 won out , the record stayed in time longer again digital pitch and analog , the feet was also not the best and I found the deck bit light , but mixing records and DVS was alright and not as bad as many first thought but depends if djs want to pay high prices for turntable today
Iv watched a great deal of your videos over last cpl of years and that cough might be worth getting checked out bro. Just saying
How would you compare digital pitch on reloops to analog pitch o technics?
Personally I can't tell the difference!
It would be easy to say if it's good or bad if we actually knew the resolution...
But I'm going to say this: CDJs also have digital pitch control (of course with finite resolution). If that's good enough for the best of djs out there, then it's good for us too.
I have a pair of the original rp8000's. I mix vinyl and love the lcd display of the pitch for fine beat matching. With technics and rp7000 you kind of guess how much you moved the slider. When beatmatching by ear you can quickly move the fader in tiny increments and know you didnt nudge it too much. This helps when your trying to blend records fast. I can keep 2 records matched for over a minute with the rp8000 before manipulating the platters...not all the time though...same goes for MK5.
@@moscasucio1686 dude you see the bpm on the 8000 as a standalone or it needs stupid laptop serato system to show the bpm on the 8000s screen.
Thanks bro
Thanks bro
@@moralrevulsionLive no im talking about pitch percentage. By no means does it show bpm on vinyl
the Technics classic decks .Many are getting on but i have never seen one break .I have broken many other turntables but on the Technics only a plastic catch for the tone arm and only because im a clumsy oaf.The feet would fall off but thats because they unwind over time especially if you dont make sure they are properly wound on which is what i kept doing.Other then that with proper use they will last a very very long time.
2021, still the best Sensai on the net
I think most of us back in the day started out with some dodgy decks, i had an SL-23, which was not too bad for a belty, paired with some dodgy pioneer which didnt even have a pitch control, then a set of KAM BDXs i picked up cheap, which were not much better. Then life took a different route, djing went out the window and i never did get to own a pair of the technics, had plenty of plays on them tho.
I recently got back into it all, glad i kept my vinyl, one thing i never parted with. I was looking at getting the reloop 7000s, but then i came across the audio technica lp1240, pretty much the same, just another super oem. But for £200 each, brand new boxed, it was a no-brainer really, so i went with a pair of them. Basically got a pair of them for less than the price of a single reloop7000. Happy with what i got, no regrets.
I always dreamed of owning a pair of 1200's ... mum got sick of changing my bedding 😍
Chaz Walker 😂
We all feel you here
Hello Johnathan,
Did you try the RP7000 on a big system to test it's resistance to feedback (using reel vinyl, of course)?
I wonder if we can trust those new turntables on this particular aspect.
But the RP7000 look fine, even if I prefer the recessed platter, personnaly.
Divadisco in 2009 i had Reloop RP4000s and they worked perfect in huge Clubs! So the 7000s will do too!
I have played with the reloops at the Notting hill carnival on a 50 k rig no worries.
Reloop all Day. The only point where the Technics wins clearly is brand image. but if the reloop exactly as it is there would have been released from technics everybody would have loved it and hyped the improvement.
You are wrong, I own 2 sl 1210 mk 2 and a reloop rp7000mk 2, the digital pitch is not accurate enough on the reloop, it has to be tweaked almost constantly to keep in time, unlike the 2 1210's that stay synced for ages before even the slightest drift, also the wow and flutter on the reloop is much higher, the printed specs of the reloop are wrong hence the star beside the figure of 0.01 wow and flutter , it's actually 0.1% which is 10 times higher than a Technics , this would also add to drift of speed combined with the lame pitch control of a reloop, and all those important factors aside the techns have lasted the test of time, and some, and some more ....Love to see a reloop still working in 30 years lol
@@michaelcurran9442 Oh bullshit there is no problem with mine. Keep making up excuses fanboy.
Had 1210 mk2 for years. Regret selling but just bought the reloop 7000 mk2 whacked ortofon Concordes on them. What a great turntable. The mixers are spot on aswell. If playing vinyl Do not buy a pioneer mixer. Phono pre amps are shite.
You ever done a video on the statnton sp-150s?
I find this very useful. Thx, tempted to get a reloop rp-7000 mk2 but that pitch problem seems to be an issue given the fact that i just wanna use it for mixing in techno and house. I often change bpm, can play trance tracks in slowed down versions as well, so a 1200 sounds more appropriate for the purpose
What pitch problems on the rp? The only pitch problem he mentions is the latching of the pitch fader on the 1200: 33:23.
I think when people mention the pitch on these newer turntables is that it’s digital, which means that when you move it, it jumps in steps, compared to Technics (mk2, mk3d & mk5) being analogue & moving smoothly.
Love the video I can't believe manufacturers have not gone the full mile before and built a new version with all the bells and whistles. Great video well put across, easy to follow your comparisons . I may be a silly idea. But here goes. I have a Rega3 and no I'm not a dj. But I love the look of the Reloop 7000 . In your opinion would this deck be any good for home Hi_Fi or am I better off sticking with the Rega 3. I don't intend replacing the Rega with the Reloop just having the pair of them . I'd like to know your take on adding it to my music room.
It took 40 years for a turntable to get to the level of the mk2 technics...its now 2019 and I'd still buy a mk2 cause they are tanks...they proven themselves over time...technology is so advanced but the reloop is nothing but a copy!
I am looking to change turntables so reloop will be my next I love technics but it’s time for a change
what are you talking about? Why would you change a technics for a reloop? It's foolish. The money you would spend on reloops, better invest it in a proper restoration of your technics. Technics will never be beaten. The sound is superb on PA systems and also for homelistening it has a very very strong sound. Reloop is not a professional audio tool, technics is!
I disagree I have had them serviced but like the man said the parts are getting really expensive. I had them for a long time and I didn’t pay a penny for my technics. The rca cables crackle like anything the pop up lights failed again for the 3rd time reloop just look way more appealing
Lenin on acid stop being such a technics fanboy they aren't the best of the best
@@shanefishley379 sounds like whoever is servicing your Technics isn't doing a great job
Ok next bedroom dj
Hi. One quick question. How did you find the Digital Pitch on Reloop. Any good/hard work/compared to analog? Much appreciated
Great demonstration and comparison, totally liked, but as many others you did not mention the large advantage of mkii having sub chassis that makes it like rock. If you knock at the top of reloop you will hear high pitch sound but when you knock a mkii it is rock solid. Of course mkii does not worth second hand all that money they ask for all the reasons you mentioned… I totally vote for reloop…
hello! thanks for the video! a simple question: is the reloop 7000 mk2 the next after the technics 1200 mk2? I'm not talking about buying between them, I'm talking about currently that follows in quality thanks
You are officially both relevant and nostalgic to me! Thank you for all your hard work! Cheers from New York!
Seems a bit unfair comparing a TT from 40 years ago to a recent one...
Digital pitch Vs analog pitch ,
You should mix some records on both turntables as test at same time Pitch them up and get them in time, leave them playing, I tell you now the reloop won't stay in time like the technics that's where today's decks fail with real vinyl
technics sl1200 MK2 will always be the better deck turntable to mix real records but for scratch performance both but reloop better in that area with features, DVS both will be the same depending on DJ software , no doubt technics will have quality parts that stand the test of time, this reloop is great turntable, but will it stand the same test of time ?
@1CBRDUDE i agree , but I wouldn't say he has no clue on this subject mate , the guys been mixing on Technics decades with experience , what I would say is that yes these reloops digital pitch might stay in time for bit but your have to keep adjusting the pitch chasing it, digital pitch works in blocks there is no fine tune between each block like Analog pitch , that's why Technics pitch stays in time longer ( fine adjustments ) also Technics qualtz decks direct drive motor is just the best for mixing records there is no high torque or super etc it's just nice balance
1CBRDUDE p
thanks for the info. how does the rp7000mk2 compare to the less expensive audio tecnica turntable
This is gonna be interesting to say the least
*Is it time? Time to lay Technics to rest? Is it time to realize that there are better turntables out there? Better turntables for mixing? Better turntables for scratching? Better turntables for sound quality? The 12's are a classic turntable and without it DJing would not look the way it does BUT it's time to move on!*
I can’t let go of mine, I’ve had them since 1995 and they are going strong.
Digital Base If you have a Technics, by all means keep it, treasure it but just be aware that it’s no longer the ”best” turntable out there.
If I had to buy new turntables I would probably buy something at a reasonable price and performance that has the abilities of the technics as a minimum. I have already moved on years ago anyway and I’m not attached to turntables for djing. I’m surprised turntables are still around because not everyone needs them like turntabilists and hip hop djs do.
Digital Base Technics is already the base for pretty much every DJ turntable anyway.
It is still the best turntable... what would be better than a technics? People only dislike them because they 've got only +8/-8 but what do "people" know anyway?
Kids, I own all the ones you’re referring to and they’re the standard for a reason. Pioneer CRRS, Reloops, Technics 1200MK7 and a pair of 1210M5G which are early 2000’s and still working strong.
Technics turntables vs Super Oem turntables
I find them reloop slipmats are better than my butterrugs. Really don't rate them slipmats, Dr suki are the best iv used
Yo ive been watching you for ever i think 2005
People will never give anything else a chance. Sad that people will always be stuck in their old ways by hanging on to ancient technology and bad mouthing everything else. 1200s have their flaws, it’s just people don’t want to admit it and rather be seen using 1200s. Shame.
no it's because 1200's mk 2 - mk5 are far better to mix on and hold a mix properly due to the analogue pitch
Great video :)
i think you can remove the little metal ball from the 1200s pitch fader to get rid of the click.
I like the click. Just letting u know it's on the 0 lol.
@@Silkmaster4200 the light does that 😂
How dose beat matching on those compare to technics
Yo ive been thinking on getting two reloops rp 7000s
I wish the replacement 1200 tone arms (byPanasonic ) were still readily available. I’d hate dropping $200 on a common failing bearing.
your so animated I love it especially the start stop brake adjust explanation, absolutely brill.
You call them 7 inch records? In North America we call them 45's. And we call singles 12 inches. We also incorrectly pronounce "Technics" as "Techniques".
I always thought pinching the spindle was a ridiculous way to reduce the speed. I've only seen a couple DJ's do that. Rubbing the side of the platter is far more effective. And nudging the side of the platter to speed it up is also weird. You'd think that would be far more difficult to do smoothly, versus using your finger near the center of the record. I know you know this, just my opinion.
I'm surprised the Reloop 7000 isn't self grounded. It's not that old. I have a pair of Numark TTX turntables that were released in 2007, and they are self grounded. They also have a interchangeable tonearm. You can use S-shape, or straight for scratching. With a straight tonearm it's very difficult to skip. The Technics MK7 has all the modern features the Reloop has.
Technics all day, best turntable ever !
Ridiculous over priced now like
Not true and not perfect
You are a classic!!!!
"Reloop have put a lot of thought into this". Yes. "Let's just copy a Technics". I know what I'd choose. The Technics DD system with its constant variable torque feedback will just smoke a Reloop.
But what about analogue pitch on the Technics? That is the only way to get your tracks exactly in time, with the digital pitch on the Reloop it moves in steps eg. 0.01, 0.02 etc. rather than an infinitely small amount like the Technics. That is a big reason why Technics are still bought and sold today, why not mention it?
Because the ones today have a digital controlled pitch too.
Ridiculous....that is just technics fanboy mind. CDJ have also digital pitch slider but people dont say about it. That is not the problem. Problem is just that many old fanboy can not accept new generation. Thats iy
@@MrDjzzam Fanbois gonna fanboi you cant stop the usual diatribe.
I learned how to beat-match on a pair of crappy Gemini turntables. They were awful and required constant work and the lightest touch to keep everything in sync. I remember playing on 1200s for the first time and it was soooo easy!
İ just bouth 2 omnitronic 2250 direct drive turntables for 30 quid a pair. They need service and parts are preety much unavailable so tomorrow i will tear them apart for pitch cleaning and stuff.
Wish me luck :)
Great comparison! Saw the Reloop 8000's and not sure I would need all the cue's and pitch changing, but who knows. 7000's seem to have all I need as a scratch turntablist. Technics are the OG's but not required.
Jesse Sanchez thank you, you just hit the nail on the head technics are really good but it’s time for a change now
100% I use 7000s mk2 vs a turntablist for dvs and they definitely do the job
3yrs later has anyone has rp7000s for that time? How do they fare after 3yrs. How do they hold the pitch vs techies? I have 3x pairs of techies but for my small underground broadcast i aint taking my techies there so i thought maybe rps.
Any thoughts from someone who has had both?
Technics every time for me
The standard was set a long time ago and in my opinion hasn't been beaten yet. When the reloop decks have spun for 30 odd years with no probs I will maybe give them credit.
Agree mate, it's just better all round turntable for real vinyl , your be fine with DVS with the reloop buts that's as far as it goes , if I'm DJ in club with both them decks are instantly know which turntable I'll put my record on (Technics) the other looks too light , the feet etc. It's more about the build
@ja nee I said Technics was old technology in 2000 mate , but it's still good today , the parts are solid built in Japan by Technics Panasonic ! Today's turntables have cheap parts made else where
Not much new about reloop who are part of huge DJ electronics group that have Denon , Akai, Numark etc reloop has clearly based and modelled it's deck on Technics SL 1200 mate lol
@@FSwiftDJ Re-loop 7000 series blow Technics out the water, The new Technics design is not the same as the originals, Panasonic made a massive blunder selling the copyright for Technics, Even the Vestax blew Technics away 20 years ago, especially when used for battle Djing!!!
@ Really ? If so why does Johnathan no longer use reloops then lately check his latest vinyl mixing ? He's back to Technics SL 1200 MK2 why ??? Because it's simply better to mix vinyl on ( stays in time longer ) I agree the new Technics are not great , but the original is still the best deck for mixing or the all round DJ
If you saying pioneer plx1000 was better ? Well I actually got them and I returned them in 1 week max , they couldn't hold a mix with vinyl simple
Reloops are great for performance or battle for sure but not mixing real vinyl
The design on rp 7000 is more Technics sl1200 you can see that , Vestax had great decks but was they considered club standard nope !! You never see one in any club , again we are talking original Technics sl1200 sl1210 MK2 here not the new Technics sl1200 Mk7 that is very like a failed Technics sl1210 mk5g deck
Your better off getting an expensive Technics SL 1200 GR then them
Minus the feet.
Back to subject , we are not talking high torque motor performance or features , we are talking solid builds, Solid parts that have stood the test of time with qualtz direct motor and analog pitch that has been the choice for every professional vinyl club djs from late 80s till this day
It's a deck that is an all round performer .
@@FSwiftDJ Because he is a Technics fan boy and cannot see past the brand name, The old skool Vestax pdx mark 1 and 2 absolutely blew Technics away in every department and that was 20 years ago, are you saying other manufacturers can't surpass a 40 year old deck is that what you are trying to say?? i've had Technics sl1200s sold them bought Vestax pdx mrk 1, As for the re-loop i've used them and thought they Where easily as good if not better than Technics, they have a ton of better feutures, one's i dd a set on where the 8000s right enough but same motor as the 7000s and thats my opinion as a Dj who's played for 26 years..
The Reloop looks nice but the Technics (except the mk7) keeps its value better however, if that's something important to you.
What's currently the best value and quality turntable . No snobbery or cult fandom . Imagine if it was a blind taste test.. no prior biases? i dont care about label.. i want quality and a good workhorse
One platter sits a little lower too!
ive had probably 5 pairs of 12s over the years and i went to buy new ones but the price was a joke .. i bought pioneers and im well happy .
What have you done with them if you had like 5 pairs already lol? I thought those things last like forever... Or did you just buy new ones whenever a replaceable part broke?
@@Ex0rz this is over 25 years , ive bought and sold a few times , gave up djing couple times and put money to a holiday and crap like that .. wernt till i got older i realised the value in things , wish i kept them now .
Can you do a video on the SYNQ XTRM-1? I heard it's a pretty good competitor with the technics sl1200
Google "super OEM turntables"...ruclips.net/video/XEEe_xxmKBg/видео.html , In this vid Jonathan is using the exact same turntable by Kam from eleven years ago!
Disagree a little bit about service ability of tech 1200's. There are a ton of third party spares and Technics is still producing spare parts for the decks. As well as this you can often fix the tables yourself because there is so much knowledge and documentation over the years on the internet. Also because these decks are STILL the industry standard, DJ repair shops know how to fix them. I have myself replaced pitch faders, and re-calibrated the pitch on a 1200 and it was dead easy. Parts are accessible and not too cheap considering how bloody long they last if looked after.
Wich one sounds best?
I saw your video and it was enough for me to buy a set of two RP7000. Thank you from the future to you from five years ago.
@@RC75 a lot. they are just awesome.
I've been using them every day since I received the package.
How are you liking the Reloops? I’ve heard good things about them. Although some don’t like the digital pitch control, I’ve heard it’s not really a problem when you get used to it.
@@lustforlow-end6022 Reloops work great. Digital pitch is one of the things I like the most because I prefer +-16 rather than +-8 (+-50 can also be implemented in an interesting way). The adjustable time to stop from 0 to 6 seconds is something I use a lot. The only drawback is their smell. I've had them for a few months now and when I leave them closed in the room and go in there, the smell is very noticeable. It's the smell of the lower part of the casing made of plastic, which is not associated with something premium. Considering their price, I can ignore it because it is not a problem to ventilate the room. It's not like you can smell them while playing, the smell must condense when the room is closed for a long time. I use them with Ortofon Concord Mk II mix, connected to Behringer DJX900. The whole setup cost me as much as one limited edition SL1200.
@@lustforlow-end6022 I have been using them for several months now and I think that the advantage of digital pich is the ability to choose between +-8, +-16, +-50 (I use +-16). Additionally, you can adjust the stop time from 0 to 6 seconds, which also gives you a lot of possibilities. Revers is also something that can be used in interesting ways. The only drawback is their smell. When I leave them closed in the room and come back, the smell of cheap plastic can be clearly felt (the lower part of the housing is made of it). It's not like you can smell it when you play them, the smell has to build up. I can forgive them because I air the room before playing anyway. I installed Ortofon Concord MkII Mix on them and connected them to Behringer DJX900. The whole set cost me as much as one limited edition SL1200. I think the Reloop RP7000 is a piece of good equipment. Thanks to them, I returned to DJing after over 20 years.
This is really helpful breakdown, thanks so much!
this is by far my favorite channel to learn more about DJing and gear lol you explain the best
Isn't there a pitch issue on the Relloop? Such as having to chase it back once it's locked in sync? That's a problem you don't get on SLs.
Why has he not made a video on the digital pitch debate???
Bcs it does not matter - its a fad
Technics still is the champ n still look beautiful in that color if you got it in good shape n last for years n you know that turntablist have beat the sht out of the1200mk 2 when they do scratch n battle style n you know that I got mine since 1989 rock the sht out of them man they still work like a champ just have to maintenance them one a year n you be good I think is one of the best turntable ever made n we use them to scratch n battle style when hip hop rap came out in the 70s that was underground for what I remember we use the technics 1100 mk 2 those first n those are heavy too made like the wheel of steel I still got a pair n working like a champ but when the 1200 came out we use them cus of the pitch control was better for mixing music anyway that reloop look nice n cheaper than the new technics that cost to much n they made them cheap not the same as the 1200 mk 2 legend that why I rather buy a reloop 7000 cus they build like the old technics out of the wheel of steel I'm going to buy one to check them out now n day they made turntable out of plastic oh wood in the 70s thing was build well n better on japan not china that is garbage stuff😁😂 2021 bronx new york like your video man you the best thank you
Pieces of vinyl!
Wide angle It's not for the reviews, thanks anyway
Honestly, i've watched lots of your vids and they are great, but this time i dont know why you are not honest with viewers...Did you forget? to say that 90% of features that are in Reloop, Technics implemeted in upgraded model sl 1200l MK3 or m3d like 25 years ago? and 95% in 2002 in m5g model?
Strange, cause you know it, so why you hide it?
Real difference is the torque - great in Reloop. And price. But Technics is classic, Reloop just a copy.
He never said Reloop was not a copy - that is obvious. He is saying reloop is a good, modern cheap alternative that gets really really close
Really considering getting one of these. Rn I have an audio technica atlp120 and for scratching it's not ideal. I've learned the basic scratches but the torque isn't that good. Would 1 of these be worth the upgrade?
Are the reloop good for beatmixing
Build quality of Technics tone arm and gimble is far superior than all the other copies...would be the first part to get damaged when travelling from party to part...the Technics tone arm setup is bullet proof.
Apararently you can remove the pitch ball bearing that makes the zero click on the SL mk2
Replacement pitch faders are modular and replaceable without soldering up untill the mk7
Reloop and other copies have digital pitch faders soldered to board.😢😢
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you can remove it, but it doesnt make sense since around the +-0 pitch adjustments wont have any effect
I suppose the Technics has a brake and torque adjust potentiometer below the platter. They are under small holes, and reachable specific positions, maybe trough the holes in the platter.
In the MK5 it has, but MK2 i'm not sure.
78RPM was using about the gramophone era, maybe the '20s thtough the '50s.
The problem with the Technics decks are virtual, imho. They were abandoned for about a decade, and the rival brands evolved. Thats the deal. Technics are essentials in the club scene, and if you can play with them, you can use the other brands, too, they are basically the same. Technics was the godfather of the DJ turntables, and they made it etalon. All the knobs, buttons, sliders, lights in the newest models are the same positions as where Technics placed in the late '70s.
yeah yeah yeah whatever. and 'etalon', wtf??
knock on wood my bulbs have not gone out in 20 years, ticking time bomb
I wish you had a video about these decks while you are mixing with them and sharing your opinions. I am keen, but I don’t want to get a classic car, it has been repaired, repainted, crashed and pimped too many times, plus is too old now.
Hi, Thank you for great review and all job you are doing on yt. Its very helpful! 🙏I have a question, which of these two would you recommend for old skool funk begginer dj. My old soul is telling me technics but i think Its little bit easier to mix on reloop?
XRTA DOPE VIDEO MY GUY..explained really detailed. My question is about turntables im getting back to DJing and i like the reloop turntables. So what I need to know is what's the difference between the RELOOP RP-7000 MK2 PROFESSIONAL UPPER TORQUE TURNTABLE SYSTEM and the RELOOP DIRECT DRIVE DJ TURNTABLE AMS-RP 7000 MK2.
Such a great review.
The best I've seen so far.
It isnt fair to discredit a 1978 invention next to a 2018 replica with intentional improvements. The Technics mk2 wasn't even made intentionaly for DJ's.
The targetlight of the rp7000.. can be lost.. can get malconnection..
Nope.
I replace that lightbulb on the technics with a led.
And takes me under an hour..
“Put the needle on the record” :-) great words from the old days, song
@ 6:53 You won't wanna go 78 unless your playing Grannys old metal gramophones
i used to use reverse on my old audio technica turntables.
i placed an empty plastic cd case cover underneath the vinyl, turned the headshell needle pointing up.. and mixed like that lol.
just for show of course.
how the pioneers PLX 1000 compares to the 7000 mk2? Whats your thought bout them, id like to know, are they good??
They've got the same motor, but the pioneer lacks some features
What happens when you tap on the plinth while a record is in play?
Looking to isolate the motor and spindle from the plinth. Looks like its attached, given the thump with any tap on the plinth at all. Did they attach the motor to the plinth?
@@allhartfidelity the reloops have awful feedback, they also have a raised platter that should be recessed , I ran one alongside a tech 1200 and with the same needles and with tonearm set at various tracking weights and the tonearms at various heights and the sound of the needle on the reloop was awful , like it was scratching the record, I reckon the needles would last half the time on tge reloop because of record wear caused by the ugly raised platter
@@michaelc1818 isolation is worse than any deck I've ever owned. Any minute breeze passing by can be heard through the pickup. It's a shame to have a decent motor and features within a cardboard box. Not sure if it's the arm that's not isolated, platter/motor, or both.
@@allhartfidelity They are just OEM rubbish like all the hanpin rubbish, even the Pioneers are hanpin and are bad for feedback, regardless of feedback they all have digital pitch which is useless for long mixes and the wow and flutter is bad
@@michaelc1818 I am for home audio use. I've had a 1200 of some form or another for many years. Still have a GLD. The rp7000 was a supreme let down. Got a gold one because I like the color combo (hence the gld) and read on some reloop folks having hum. However, I dont have hum...I have poor isolation. Ideally, I throw the arm in the trash, but doubt I can use the same armboard used to mod the 1200 on the reloop. I would start there and see if that helps.
Any idea if that plate for the 1200 used to put SME arms on them would work for the reloop?