Kabuto’s blood type being AB is also how when he injected himself with Orochimaru’s blood he was able to recover. AB blood type is referred to as the “universal recipient” where they can give and receive blood from any other type. It is also extremely rare lol
This is not true. A quick google search says O negative is the universal donor not AB. Please stop spreading misinformation. (in relation to blood, plasma is a different story)
You got that right for the most part, but just a heads up, I hate to be that guy but yeah, AB blood can give to ALMOST any blood type. All except for O. On the other hand though. The O blood type, known as golden blood, is a universal donor, and can give blood to any type. Edit: golden blood is RH null blood, not O type blood. It’s an incredibly rare blood type with an estimate of about 50 people in the world having it.
Also one correction, Madara doesn’t call Gai one of the strongest but one of the strongest TAIJUTSU users. Quoted directly from the manga: “ This chakra of yours, I’ll acknowledge it. Of all those who have fought me over the years…there’s *no one* who surpasses you at taijutsu”
@markstein2845 Indra’s arrow or Naruto’s bijuudama rasenshuriken are arguably stronger than might guy. Also I quoted DIRECTLY from the manga which I physically own. The manga is the purest form and intent of Kishi’s story, it’s really not that hard to understand bruv
@@Carlisle-mn3fvwell considering those powers didn’t exist yet when Madara said that, it’s probably safe to assume Madara didn’t take those into account. Only person he would compare him with is obviously hashirama.
@@kleatise52 and Hashirama is objectively and factually stronger than Gai, hence Madara stated he’s the strongest TAIJUTSU users 🤦♂️ I genuinely do not understand how you people cannot grasp that simple concept
Two times in the manga, prior to us witnessing the Uchiha massacre, Sasuke recalls Itachi's words (the "keep running" speech) with a backdrop of Itachi's intense stare. Except, as shown here, his headband is on sideways. It's a very unique way to wear it and we *never* see him wear it that way in any of the flashback scenes (in the manga). To me this is very clear foreshadowing of Sasuke's repressed memory since Kishimoto took care to *never* show Itachi wearing his headband this way, reserving it only for the reveal.
Yeah that doesnt seem to be great foreshadowing tbh... Kishimoto likely drew that specific moment on the spot initially but when he decided to flesh out Sasuke's origin, he chose to have Itachi wear his headband facing forward without putting that much thought into it. From what I remember one of the final flashbacks where Itachi was crying, had him wearing that headband in the way Kishimoto had originally depicted(ofc I think that in the anime itself but it may not have been in the manga post-timeskip)..
@@OogaBooga-sq4xg Yea Sasuke knocked it off with a kunai and Itachi put it back on like that. But Sasuke repressed the memory and so Itachi's speech to him and the angle of the headband blurred together in his mind
honestly the facts that you brought up about itachi weren't the only ones either when itachi returned to the leaf and after his fight with the jonin asuma brought up a good question "itachi knows what Naruto looks like and where he even lives so why not just go grab him if his mission is to get the ninetails?" nobody even knew he was in the village until he decided to stop for some tea and sweets he could have confronted Naruto used genjustu on him to lure him out of the village and be done with it but he didn't
I rewatched Naruto recently. In part 1, Itachi seemed very cold and, for all intents and purposes, a villain. But as soon as Shippuden started, Itachi seemed like a completely different person. He seemed like he was always trying to help Naruto more than anything. Personally, I think when he was writing the Naruto vs Sasuke fight in the final valley, he decided he would be better if he made Itachi a good guy somehow and started working on that immediately.
Idk, we didn't know enough about Itachi when we first showed up, but him revealing the Akatsuki's true target could be seen as Itachi leaking intel to Konoha while being watched by Kisame
Go watch episode 80 of old Naruto and speed it up until the end when Kisame and Itachi are standing on the rooftop of leaf village gate and see what Kisame asks Itachi
It's very well known for manga authors to retcon their stories as they progress through the storyline. A manga author most of the times come with new ideas and concepts on the fly while they're drawing.
Also 2 other moments of foreshadowing of Tobi being Obito are: 1) During Gaara Retrieval arc, when Kakashi and Natuto are chasing Deidara and Kakashi uses Kamui on Deidaras arm (which goes into another dimension) its Tobi who returns the said arm back to Deidara. 2) This is a bit if a long shot but whenever Kakashi has cried its been out of his right eye, the one that Obito gave and given that Obito was more emotional that makes sense
1 could go either way. My assumption was it just got torn off and fell elsewhere. In the manga you don't see the hand fly off somewhere and looks like it got teleported like the cloth. I like to think it was since him being Obito was pretty obviously set from the beginning along with the Sharingan connection.
Only: tobi didnt retrieve his arm from the kamui dimension You can clearly see it from every point onwards that deidara has a wooden elbow and THEN a normal underarm again The elbow was sucked into kamui and never appeared again The rest of the arm got cut off and retrieved
For me, Itachi's plot's biggest foreshadowing was the Tsukuyomi he puts on 7yo Sasuke. Especially, the scene where he kills their parents: if you pay attention, you'll see that both of their parents were immobilized, on their knees, just like they were "waiting for their deaths", wich is pretty strange for a clan lider who was know as a strong shinobi (as it was informed along the classic anime)
i thought their parents accepted their death. They even said something along the lines of "you have to fulfill your path, even if it doesn't align with ours"
Another bit of foreshadowing people seem to forget is that Kaguya and her backstory is mentioned and explained by Madara in chapter 646 of the manga, and episode 381 of the anime, long before she appears in the flesh during the end of the war.
There's a lot of foreshadowing about Itachi, even little details. Recently I saw a scene in the rescue of Gaara's arc where a clone of him is sent to fight Team Kakashi to prevent them form interrupting the ritual, and Itachi smiles when his clone is defeated. At first watch you can interpret it as a sign of contempt for his rivals who won't make it on time. But knowing the story and rewatching it, you realize he was glad to see the Leaf village still has competent shinobis capable of taking his clone down with relative ease.
I liked one small detail that showed Tobi was Obito is when they catched the 3 tailed and Tobi was very quiet lying on the 3 tails and even Daidera had to ask why was he so quiet, nice small detail since Rin was the 3 tail
The kabuto blood type thing has a different meaning in the manga, in my opinion. First off, orochimaru saying "oh" and looking sad doesnt happen. Neither does kabuto's rebuttal My thoughts are that orochimaru was actually trying to draw attention to sai. Kabuto holds up a scroll and says hes missing a corpse for his collection and that he needs a male between 15-16. At this point sai is by the river digging in his bag. Then oro makes that blood comment and the perspective of kabuto is facing toward Sai with oro sitting on the rock looking at both them. It seems they were trying to gauge his reaction to those comments, since sai himself is actually a blood type A. This is followed up sai being asked asked if everything is alright. They were clearly aware of his face changing when he couldnt find his book. This is chapter 30o btw
hmm, that's an interesting interpretation, thanks for sharing that with me. So basically they were trying to scare Sai by suggesting that he fits the profile for a corpse that Kabuto needs for his experiments?
@@JuubiTaz They do use that as a joke towards Kabuto when he says "maybe i am type A" when he forgets something and walks away. Subtle but one of my favorite bits of humor in the series
Kabuto was foreshadowed to be a very malevolent individual even as early as the Forest of Death. One of those Amegakure Ninja slashed him across the bridge of his nose and knocked his glasses off. We see a flash of him displaying an evil glare before Naruto knocks the guys out.
@@JuubiTaz Perhaps. I just feel it was l to show that he was *FAR* more dangerous then he let on. He even made a comment about his "old blood" - as if there's an entirely different person underneath. In any case - love your content bro. I still watch that "Danzou Retcon" video and laugh my ass off on how you were clowning him.😂😂
@@marcusfrazier4923 You might be right, I think it could be interpreted either way. Sasuke's the only one from team 7 to sense Kabuto's malice. Thanks bro, I really appreciate the support. Lol, the Danzo Retcon Theory is a classic, I'd never miss an opportunity to trash Danzo 🤣. I recently made a video where I clown his 2 co-conspirators Koharu & Homura, I think you'd enjoy it!
Itachi using Tsukuyomi on Sasuke when he arrived with kisame makes sense as right before them kisame was warning itachi constantly not to overuse his eye so he was using Sasuke and Amaterasu as a reason to retreat
@@Sebastien-uv6xf Tsunade is famous Naruto is with jiraiya a legendary Sanin that's around him being close to Sasuke with itachis knowledge it's only a matter of time Tsunade would come into the picture
@@orpheemulemo8053 Come on even for an Itachitard this argument is absurd. Itachi sent his " beloved brother " and Kakashi in coma. By this time , Tsunade was retired and every one knew he was afraid of blood. A kage who is afraid of blood. But maybe you are going to tell me Itachi clearly foresaw the battle of the Sannins and saw how Tsunade overcome his fear of blood ?
@@Sebastien-uv6xf One the precedure on Kakashi and Sasuke does not require blood touching or any of that sort Itachi in the same arc told Sasuke he needed more vengeance to come and kill him it's clear Itachis motivation is not killing Sasuke but motivating him to do so The kage is the strongest Tsunade being a sannin after the thirds death meaning that position she would be a candidate Kishimoto himself and his editor you can search this said the moment itachi appeared in the manga he had already planned him to be a person who isn't evil but does things because he is forced
I was fine with the Itachi plot twist--I just wasn't fine with how the characters (and many fans) see Itachi as a good brother despite the psychological, physical, and emotional abuse he put Sasuke through.
You have to realize he wasn't trying to be seen as a good brother, he even said he ended up with sasuke, he wanted to strip all the love sasuke had for him because if you remember sasuke loved loved itachi, it was extreme but he gave sasuke a target to put all his hate towards. It's probably how he felt about himself too, he's still a good brother by saving Sasuke, then coming back after hokage died to check danzo. He also saved him from orichimaru, he was protecting him while trying to get sasuke to take all his hate out on him his whole life. That's why sasuke went crazy after learning the truth, he was ready to destroy the whole leaf for what itachi went through.. clearly sasuke forgave him.
The only meh part was what he put Sasuke through everything else he did was literally the best option.. we'd have no Show to watch if the cou de'tAt went through.. itachis Dad literally was gonna kill Little naruto and take the 9tails 😅 itachi literally saved naruto 🐐
@@rajdhillon1362 Itachi saving Sasuke (and Naruto by extension) doesn't mean all his physical, emotional, and physchological abuse towards Sasuke should be cast aside. What's the point of saving someone's life if you're gonna make them so miserable they want to kill you?
Dude, what more implication people need than the fact Itachi was wearing a full ANBU gear with a Konoha headband during the massacre - when earlier that day he wore his standard clothing? Even in Sasuke's part 1 flashbacks he is clearly wearing combat clothing (armor, forearm protector) indicating he is doing a mission. No reason for a psycho kid who just went nuts to put on his military uniform before killing his parents. Actually, Sasuke should have noticed, and ask him about this!
I can confidently say that Itachi was intended to be a double agent working for the least since at least the flashbacks Sasuke had in the valley of the end
@pandudewabrata5188 the Author foreshadowed Madara before his name was mentioned. I'm not saying that he planned everything (it's impossible) but there are many evidence that he thought deeply about the Lore
I mean Jiraiya talking about Minato doesn’t really give it away that he’s Naruto’s dad, but when I first watched Naruto what really gave away for me was when Kakashi said “I really wish I could tell him” after seeing his reflection on Naruto.
@@JuubiTaz facts, but if Naruto was able to put 2+2 together (he couldn’t do that) he woulda figure it out but for that Ima give him the benefit of the doubt since Minato was the strongest of that specific era and maybe he thought he was compared to Minato because of that🤷🏾♂️. Also when Jiraiya and Tsunade was talking about how Naruto looks like Kushina and Minato.
Thank you you are 1 of the few Naruto youtubers that actually knows the story and knows Kishimoto's foreshadowing 🔥 I don't know if this counts or maybe I'm stretching but I love the subtle foreshadowing of Kaguya with Kimmimaro coming from the Kaguya Clan. We thought it was mainly just a cool reference from Japanese Mythology as Kishimoto likes to do, but it actually set the groundwork for Kaguya and the SO6P having been real and having descendent throughout the world
@@JuubiTaz i understand. But remember the sage of six paths had son's, so that mean the sage must also have parents (his own mother & father). And a clan that he came from. 👍
Another hint/foreshadowing about Obito's true identity is shown after he and Deidara capture the Three-Tails. Obito lies down on the Three-Tails, suggesting he's comfortable because the Three-Tails was once inside Rin. Deidara notices but doesn't think much of it. When you understand the meaning behind Obito's gesture, it becomes obvious and nostalgic
Ashura and Indra were literally shown in flashback Obito talked about... The whole Sasuke's decision thing also ties in with their destinies. Pretty sure when they did an all out assault on Juubi within the barrier, Sasuke directly aimed to incinerate the Ten Tails, which was what he tried to do after Kaguya was defeated and he sealed all 9 tailed beasts. The introduction of Indra and Ashura only solidified what was being setup. (and also literally shows that naruto wasn't determined by his destiny but people still use that to say kid neji was right smh)
9:10 You Forgot To Mention The Scene Where Obito Phases Through Naruto's Rasengan Against The Eight-Man Squad In The OG Japanese, Naruto Says "Out Of Our Way" While Attacking Tobi From Behind, He Notices And Says "A Shadow Clone?"(KageBunshin?) In His Real Obito Voice, Not His Tobi Voice
I think you're right on the whole kakashi hitting haku with the chidori being representative of him hitting rin with it. I was actually thinking the same thing. Its the only other time kakashi hit someone "innocent' with that attack on accident and killed them. He clearly pauses too from the guilt or the reminder
Just another thing for Obito, I ain't sure if it's in the manga but in the anime when the akatsuki captures the 3 tails Deidara makes a comment about it not having an host and Tobi just stays silent (since the last one was Rin)
I haven't read all comments here, so I don't know if that was mentioned. There is another Itachi forshadowing(although it is shown short before the truth about Itachi is revealed). During Itachi vs Sasuke fight Orochimaru appeared and said that now he can finally take over Sasuke's body. For just one second we can see that Itachi got angry and immediately pierced Orochimaru with Totsuka Blade.
Obito is mentioned for the first time in the anime on the 3rd hokages funeral yugao see kakashi at the monument stone and ask him if he’s paying respects to obito, then kakashi goes on about that the grave makes him think of the mistakes he made in the past, giving us foreshadowing of the backstory we would get in shippuden
I enjoyed this video overall; there was some really cool stuff in the beginning that I had no idea was set up so early. That being said, I take issue with the argumentation in the section about foreshadowing the reincarnation reveal. Every single point in that argument is something that showcases that Naruto and Sasuke were compared to the characters they're supposedly reincarnated from. I don't think anyone out there would deny that there are parallels between Naruto v. Sasuke and Hashirama v. Madara-the story very deliberately juxtaposes those characters and their conflicts. However, the evidence presented is insufficient to claim that those moments foreshadow reincarnation (a mechanic which isn't hinted at throughout the rest of the story) as opposed to them being present to help solidify the connection between Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry and the cycle of hatred referenced throughout the story.
In Chapter 16 of Naruto titled "Who are you?!" we first time see Obito, Kakashi was covering his left eye(Sharingan one) with his hand and we introduce to a Masked Man. If this isn't foreshadowing of Tobi being Obito than Idk what it is
There’s one in the anime about obito (not sure about the manga) is when itachi and kisame were in the coffee shop, kakashi arrives and see kurenai and asuma, kakashi mentions how he was gonna buy something to put on a grave and asuma says ( is it something for obito) mentioning this right when we see the akatsuki too
Itachi being a prodigy, entering war at the age of 6 or something, pretty much built up his resolve to avoid war at all costs from early on. Also zetsu one shootinge madara when he's meant to have senjutsu to detect things better, was never explained. Hashirama detecting him while tired would actually lean towards it being contradictory for him to be caught off so easily
I'm not sure about the sasuke saying "that time, crying"... but itachi was supposed to have his bandana on the side, similar to zabuza, at the time, kishimoto thought that was a sign of a "missing nin" but it kinda looks stupid.
I always tell people that bring up the Itachi one. "Bro we are shown what happens prior and during the massacre from the lense of a child. Who quote "Didn't know anything" about what his clan and family was doing. To juxtapose where Kishimoto took this plotline is more like: I don't like it so im going to deny the possibility." Which at that point you lose all credibility. The signs were straight up there Kakashi wondering why he didn't kill em. Orochimaru wanting Sasuke because he couldnt get Itachi. Later were shown it wasnt even a fight Itachi straight up stomped him. But Itachi ran from Jiraiya. We saw Itachi is a whole perception blitz speed tier above Kakashi. But he doesn't really do anything to Naruto in the time he had. He tells Naruto to "come out" of the room. This gives Naruto a greater chance to be seen and heard, if they take him. He tells Kakashi the plans of the akatsuki in double speak "The Legacy of the 4th Hokage." Kakashi is the only one that would know Itachi is saying NARUTO. Because he's the only none higher official who knows about Naruto being Minato's son. Itachi knows because of his mother taking him to see Naruto when she wanted to adopt him. Jiraiya shows up and says "You're target really is Naruto." Before Itachi beats on Sasuke. He remarks about his arm. He literally broke it to make him stand down. Probably trying to keep him safe of Kisame. Itachi then proceeds to beat him which can be further evidence he's protecting him from Kisame. Again anyone saying that Itachi being good is a "retcon asspull" is slow and need reading comprehension lessons. This plotline is literally developed perfectly. The plotline basically builds itself. There's no world where Itachi runs into all those Jonin and doesn't at least incapacitate them. When Kisame is right fucking there.
yeah that's true, and people seem to forget that Kisame was partnered upon with Itachi specifically to keep an eye of him and make sure he didn't betray the Akatsuki, so ofc Itachi had to act like the bad guy
FINALLY someone talked about itachi, Most of the "fans" decide to simply ignore things like ° fukaku's insistence on itachi attending the meeting, defining him as "the link between the clan and the village" ° Itachi getting angry and saying "it's not wise to judge others based on your own prejudices" after the police officers STATED shisui was loyal to the clan and would never commit suicide ° itachi saying the uchihas were obsessed with the clan and lost sight of was really important ° the uchihas threatening itachi because had other spies on the ANBU and he wouldn't get away with in case of betraying the clan ° Itachi saying that being excellent makes a person arrogant (the uchihas planning a coup d'état, subjugate all other villagers with the kyuubi so fukaku becomes hokage and throughout the manga EVERYONE refers to the uchihas as the elite) saying that naruto is full of retconnans is LITERALLY A TREND that never went away because nobody wants to read 700 chapters but still want be part of the trend
All the points you mention are from Shippuden. Most people think Itachi wasn't planned to be a double agent in part 1, but that was retconned by Shippuden.
@@pkj2148 WRONG! All these points come from the FIRST AND ONLY complete flashback we get of sasuke's childhood, during the battle at the Valley of the End.
@@tosemnome1000 I thought it was obvious what I meant by end of the series. I'm talking about end of pre-timeskip Naruto. That was already close to Shippuden.
Black zetsu-->Madara--->Obito is parallel of Gato-->Zabuza-->Haku(suprising both have a masked member too) "Shonobi are tool to be used", "Shinobi should abandon their feelings" are the words we got to know in Land of waves from Zabuza. but Zabuza failed to be a shinobi, he should his care for Haku He wasn't able to become TOOL but on the otherhand Madara did abandon his feels inprocess became a Perfect Shinobi the kinds of which are there to be used. were Madara got used, thrown and killed by black zetsu, Zabuza broke free and killed Gato himself
The whole Madara and Zetsu thing is more of a decent use of what Kishimoto had in his hands. The best explanation for it is that he was asked to help create a sequel (he has stated that he was approached for a sequel), and most probably under pressure, he had to commit this horrible retcon and give some reasoning to it to fit it in. Zetsu seemed the best guy at that point (the secondary antagonist atp, literally his will and scout), the whole theme with getting backstabbed (fun fact his Susano faces both sides hinting to his insecurity about being back stabbed) and using a character template from Kaguya clan... Though he didn't have to do allat, he could have just made Madara go berserk because Kaguya's genetics were imbedded into the god tree/ten tails. Like how much better would that have been, she takes over, T7 fights, and in the end Madara fights back to gain control admits which rikudo chibaku tensei is cast. Tbh the whole zetsu thing leaves a bad taste in ur mouth, especially writing wise...
No because then that doesnt give madara the sense of absolute failure in life. He wasted his whole life filled with hatred and wanted to create a world where everyone could be happy forever. He thought he was using obito and when he learned he was a puppet too, he really felt a taste of his own medicine. Honestly if you think about it simply the saying "the will of fire" is a foreshadowing to kaguyas will. The will of fire being hagoromo and the opposite being hers. You can also notice how there is both black and white zetsu being light and dark the whole time. Its also a foreshadow using hashirama's cells to make the the white zetsu clones specifically because he seen it as the weaker side of him and disposable which can be the conflict between seeing her sons being more like her and one as defiant and weak but still her child and black zetsu was jealous. They also really dont go into why dark zetsu on his own is so malicious during the kissame vs octo pops (i forget the exact scenario). Oh and when obito saw what happened to rin while wearing white zetsu, its turns into black zetsu, they make it seem like obito created black zetsu when in reality he was slipping into his mind in a more discreet way than when he did with hagoromo's son. He didnt know that obito wasnt the reincarnate and started to use the akatsuki to keep eyes on all the Uchiha which is why he specifically wanted to record all the Uchiha fights. There is soooo many hints if you actually rewatch it and it was a very good twists all around and deeply plotted from the beginning. I mean youre not supposed to understand it was a foreshadowing until after and even then it still can be missed. Ive unfortunately watched the series 3 times and im halfway through the manga 😅 wish me luck
@@goofygamers61 The point of "absolute" failure is good, only that doesnt work since Zetsu barely "used" Madara, all he was hang on his coat tails, apparently "lying" about his identity, and when Madara achieved his goal, which was also apparently Zetsu's goal, he betrayed him and conveniently revived Kaguya, a little "too easily". Kaguya herself didnt have good foreshadowing, your point of "will of fire" is quite weak, especially since it has nothing to do with this and is a theme of the perseverance of shinobi and their strong will. You're also somewhat being wrong about information it seems. Black & White zetsu are beings that Madara created using Yin & Yang style offscreen, which is one huge reason why the retcon doesnt work, because in the end Madara himself using ninjutsu created them, he even creates a black staff with his will (like zetsu) during his final moments with obito where he gives him black & white zetsu along with it, which furthur contradicts the retcon as madara not only knowingly created Zetsu, but also stored his will in another object, yet he DOESNT know that zetsu wasnt his will? With all his sensory powers that can even detect intent? He got surprised and stabbed by such a weaker character in his strongest state and coudnt do anything about it? These things already show how wrong the twist was and he didnt need to be taken out like that for his character to get a satisfying end, not when the fight with him was robbed and literally any other way could have fulfilled the role to defeat the false messiah. This is further supported by how Kaguya is an easy way to make a sequel, narutos epilouge is a prolouge for said sequel, kishimoto says that he was approached for a sequel (which he himself wasnt interested in), a very minor statement, but in their latest interview, Ikemoto acknowledges about how Otsutsuki werent explored, which is their whole point as they were introduced to be explored in a sequel
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND sorry i had to go back and refresh. So madera thought he was making the white zetsus with hashiramas cells but it was only black zetsu pulling them from the infinite tsukuyomi tree (black zetsu has been inside of madera since he "died" in the battle with Hashirama) black zetsu was able to supress his chakra entirely which is why he didnt sense him. So he used him to do his work for him like prepping obito and passing down the idea of his plan. Since he has hashirama cells imbued into him, he thought his will manifested into dark zetsu.
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND also yeah kagya had no foreshadowing at all besides the fact that well the sage of 6 paths must have parents with some kind of power since he had rinnegan and the founder of jutsu and chakra in "normal humans" but this is never said and it seems they see him sort of a god himself and maybe not thinking where he may have come from (which is silly)
@@goofygamers61 the whole of ur first point just doesn logically work. what the frick did madara create then? and madara quite literally created objects of his will TWICE. madara states he uses yin and yang release to CREATE his zetsu pawns, not fish them out without realising
good points but kakashi killing haku/rin with chidori is too much of a stretch, it's not like a pannel was shown with kakashi in utter shock like he was getting PTSD. Good find though.
I personally think Itachi putting Sasuke in a coma proves Itachi was originally intended to be a villain. Just no way to justify that under the assumption he was always intended to be good. The flashback to Sasuke's childhood is the time that Kishimoto decided he was gonna be a good guy or at least left it ambiguous so he could choose later down the line. Lot of those things you pointed could go either way. Only thing those proved was Itachi didn't care for the clan and was up to something. Even his breakdown could be seen as him viewing the Uchiha as not worth the self importance since he's so much greater. His talks about being an obstacle could just be him grooming Sasuke to be his final challenge. Being the kind older brother would make the hate worse as well. One thing people assume is that all foreshadowing is completely thought through. Most of the time in long running series is they'll leave threads and ideas in the series to hopefully be used later. Maybe they have an extremely vague idea and sometimes it'll be more fleshed out. Sometimes it's something mindlessly put in or not intended to be anything at all but ends up just slotting in like my favorite example in Naruto is the beta design of Itachi with the sideways bandana being used later when Sasuke remembers Itachi crying. That technically hints at a scene we don't see before that but it was purely a product of designs changing while they haven't shown up yet. My favorite intentional foreshadowing was Kakashi having his own Mangekyo and Itachi being blind. Kakashi remarks to Itachi that his vision is dulled and he can only know that for one reason. It's not like it's a long wait for it to pay off but little things like that help make things seem less like an ass pull or a writing contrivance to hint at something even if just a little.
in the opening tsuki ga ookisa opening 14 naruto shippuden we get a foreshadow of who obito is, there is a flash cut from rin's death, then cut to obito with new mask
I mean... does the Guy foreshadowing really count? Like the 8th gate was being hyped to be beyond the Kage since Lee's fight and everyone knew he was Kakashi's rival, so did him being strong surprise anyone? It's like saying Hiruzen's strength was being "foreshadowed" since chapter 1.
I think when we see Guy first, and he moves so fast that Sasuke monologues to himself "is he even human", and then we fast forward to the Guy vs Madara fight, and he's moving so fast that Gaara says that Guy's movements are "not human", that's a pretty clear case of foreshadowing imo
While I agree with most of them, but I still dont think black zetsu betrayal was planned. Yeah, I still think that is a retcon. Foreshadowing must be told way before the reveal. Putting some hints in the same arc with the reveal is essentially changing the plan just before the 'plot twist'. That's why every black zetsu 'hints', which were told during the war arc, aren't a foreshadowing. Even zetsu appearance at the end of naruto part 1 is not a foreshadowing. That simply means that 'zetsu watched all the time', not 'zetsu is the last boss'.
Yeah, Itachi was the most controversial and bamboozled people were calling out Kishi on this one. I think we can never truly recreate from the hints how the creative process looked like from the hints, like you did, but the biggest issue fandom had was that they actually enjoyed Itachi's cold, cruel persona. Also, they were living in the world of shounen were characters who were not too complex, only wanting power existed in a big numbers. For example villains in DB when they are winning, still want to fight to no end and are searching for stronger opponents leaving main characters alive and letting them grow even at risk of their victory (villains victory, that is). Similar case with Hisoka or Illumi - cruel,manipulative brother who tortures his own firmly believing that it's love (Itachi even copies his dialogue lines to Killua while speaking to Sasuke). So fans were thinking oh,another one. But we will forgive him,because he is cool". And suddenly,what a twist. So fans of old Itachi, no matter the hint s in the video will insist that was an asspull. Yes, from the wider perspective it makes sense, that Itachi was not all he appeared to be. We were seeing him from Sasuke's point of view and he was never objective,not even before his trauma. Itachi was shown in all his talks with a clan as plotting and hating and Sasuke was shown as beating himself up over his naivette,but we were unaware what we were looking at and that was something impossible to figrue out without Tobi's story and Danzo introduction in Shippuuden. Also, Kishi was crafting his world more carefuly, no reason to think he would treat such important character so carelessly and make him so simple. And Kishimoto crafted his lore and world way more carefuly than we give him credit for, even if not all his ideas made to the manga. Statues of Kages were awsome - each of them became important character. So why not Madara ? The same goes for Kakashi gaiden. In anime it's harder to believe it's not a retcon,becasue it's shown way later,but if it was not important to the plot,why Kishi would release it in the manga continuity and not as a special of sorts ? Tobito wars were crazy. Some claimed he can not be Obito,since "they are not the same height at all ! I measured with the RULER" HAha Love the omakes, sketches and covers - a lot of foreshadowing and probably forgotten concepts. Deadlock was beautiful. wonder thou, if Kisih first was thinking about old legend about Jiraiya and animals from it paralleling Team Seven and later came with the idea to include ACTUAL three sannin as mentors or not. Sadly, Sakura wasn't as important as covers implied. Wellp. Kabuto's blood also shows he will be kinda two persons in one body, at least until he will "defeat" Oro. But it also shows how japanese ninja's are - thinking in superstitious way :) Thank you for your video, wanted to comment on it long time ago. Choosing to have all of it in one video instead of separate does something good - it shows that Kishi is consistent and he doesn't want deus ex machina in his story.
The black zetsu reveal was pretty good tbh. He was always lurking around everyone, didn't do much and finally showed his real intentions at the end. I found it a pretty epic moment tbh
The zestu one is interesting, since you can rethink that scene after the ending as Zetsu spying on the reincarnation of the brothers, not for the Akatsuki. But the twist in the end of the show is this shit
I think the best foreshadowing of Itachi being a good guy was when he told Kisame to retreat when Jiraiya showed up. He said they couldn't beat Jiraya but we now know Itachi could have single handedly beat Jiraiya and captured Naruto if he wanted to.
also Kisame himself was confused as to why Itachi would run & believed that Itachi would solo, and Itachi has to play it off as a "oh we'd both kill each other"
I think Kishimoto really meant Jiraiya could beat both of them at the time. It was to hype up Jiraiya. He then retconned Itachi to being a good guy, and made Itachi much stronger than he had originally created him to be, so it now gives a different understanding of that scene.
Some more interesting foreshadowing with Black Zetsu, in an early databook (though I forget the exact one), one of Black/White Zetsu's abilities was the ability to record whatever he see and can than share the recording with whoever he merges with. This was obviously foreshadowing for Kaguya, as he was recording important points of history all for her sake. This series is filled with so much good foreshadowing though, only a few I dislike how they played out. Specifically, the whole reincarnation deal. Clearly, there was some manner of cycle, but I disliked how they made it into literal reincarnations. There are so many characters who parallel people who live in the past, yet were never stated to be reincarnations, yet Asura and Indra are the only ones who reincarnate? Just always left a sour taste in my mouth, which was made even worse with what happened to Neji.
I mean, Ashura & Indra were no ordinary folk, they were the Sage's sons, but I get you. As for Black Zetsu, Kishimoto said that one of the Akatsuki had a secret alliance that was gonna shock everyone (I cant remember the exact saying but it was something along those lines). Its likely that Zetsu was always meant for some major plot twist, but the plot twist being Kaguya wasn't decided till the war arc
the "foreshadowing" of madara's weakness being someone getting behind him is bogus. His flashback fight barely happened like 1 year before. But madara being foreshadowed was like 15 years. That's just a retcon plus a stupid weakness... someone getting behind a NINJA??? Really???
I agree with the Itachi stuff but I've always been confused on why he told Sasuke that he would have to kill his best friend to achieve the mangekyou sharingan. I know it's a hint to what happened with shisui but It seems Kishimoto didn't think that one through if Itachi wasn't actually a bad guy. Just a little nitpick of mine.
He didn’t think sasuke would foolie his word ,he thought sasuke hated him so much that he wouldn’t do what he wanted him to do but his decision had the exact opposite effect
That is because in the cannon (Itachi's novel), Itachi thought that this was the only way to awaken it. Also cus Shisui asked Itachi to kill him by pulling him off of the precipice because Shisui also believed that the mangekyou was only awakened if you murdered your best friend (since Shisui also obtained it after "murdering" his best friend)
i dont know if i ever assumed itachi was good because like everyone i hated him at first but i did question some things he said the way he worded the things he said to sasuke and then if i remember right there's a moment u can see a tear in his eye
Kishimoto was a god of foreshadowing didn't know hashirama sensed something The fact is people take Gospel from character statements in the series that is not said by the narrator
The reincarnation thing, I don’t think the issue is that it “came out of nowhere”, but more so that it cheapens the accomplishments and credibility of our protagonist and his rival. I personally saw it as more of them two (Sasuke, Naruto…then Hashi and Madara prior), simply being two of a kind that come about once a generation or so…but not an outright reincarnation. It’s not an asspull, it’s just lame, really.
The "Itachi is actually a good guy" has no foreshadowing or hints in part 1. What you brought up is simply Sasuke rationalizing his motives and trying to guess at itachi's, but I dont think that line was meant to be taking literally. It does have some in part 2, because that is where it was planned, and Itachi actually liked Naruto as a person, and as a true brotherly replacement for him after he knew he was going to let Sasuke kill him, but this is legitimately not the case in part 1. Him being a double agent is not necessarily a case for him being good, but I truly dont remember if we knew that in part 1 or shippuden as well so I'll leave it out. But my biggest piece of evidence to suggest that he was NOT planned to be a "good guy pacifist" the whole time is that he LITERALLY TOLD SASUKE TO KILL NARUTO. Thats what he told him to do when we seen them first meet. He told him you do not have enough hate to defeat me, you need more. You will only have a chance when you possess these eyes (mangekyou) and in order to get these you have to kill your best friend as I did. I would argue that he maybe, not as written in part 2, but as planned from the start, did not kill Shisui but instead witnessed his suicide and it made him snap. But Itachi, who was shown to like Naruto in part 2, and thought that he was a good friend for Sasuke, and trusted him with the fate of the village, told Sasuke to kill him to sever all of his ties and gain power in part 1. That, to me, is the single most damning piece of evidence that suggests Itachi was never initially written to be good, but later decided to be good for the plot. Now, Itachi is like, my favorite anime character, and Im fine with him being good or bad, and I liked the plot twist that he was good the whole time instead of just being an asshole just because. But I can also acknowledge that it was definitely something that was thought up after the conclusion of part 1. The man told his little brother to kill his best friend. There's no love in that. And there was no reason for it. lol
The one justification for Itachi's suggestion that Sasuke kill Naruto was that, Itachi wanted Sasuke to awaken the MS in order to become strong enough to fend for himself. According to Tobi, Itachi had to prolong his life by taking medications, so its likely that he wanted Sasuke to awaken the Mnagekyou so that he could look out for himself incase Danzo made a move against him if Itachi died. When Sasuke refused to follow his brothers footsteps, Itachi decided to prolong his life & die at Sasuke's hands
Go watch episode 80 of old Naruto skip to the end of the episode when Itachi and Kisame first appear in cannon listen carefully what Kisame asks him after Itachi comment on how village looks wracked that's the biggest foreshadowing in part 1 about itachi's true feelings
I disagree that Obito talking to Naruto and Kakashi about how they will be chosen by destiny is forshadowing as at that point its just setup for the concept, not a hint of it.
he literally compares Naruto to Hashirama & says that Sasuke is of his kind (he went by Madara at that point), and then he talks about the sages sons & how the conflict started with them. How more obvious does it need to be
@@JuubiTaz Isn't it too close to the actual reveal that they are indeed chosen by fate to be forshadowing? Hmm, maybe not, now that I think about it as this is at about half way through Shippuden and their ressurection happens way latter. Maybe you are right, but I still feel like its a bit close arc-wise to be forshadowing.
@@JuubiTaz well just try to make it sound more natural next time, it’s very easy to tell this is scripted and you’re reading off your lines. Try doing bullet points you want to address and do multiple takes if you have to- makes it seem way more natural and human
I think we have different definitions of foreshadowing 🤣. Some of your examples were not foreshadowing , they appear later than the twists.... Also people figured out tobi was obito before the whole madara false identity... As for itachi's "foreshadowing" is reaching. sorry. Kishimoto started planning this twist only in the begging of shippuden, when danzo used sai to assassinate sasuke🤣
@@laudydorado5245 for the first paragraph i didn't say anything about the quality of the video. As for the second, you're projecting hard considering your reply 🤣🤣🤣
Why was itachi in anbu close when he killed his clan then? Why did Kisame ask him if he's sad and does he still have feelings for his old village when Itachi said how wrecked it looked after orochimaru attack? Why did Itachi use Tsukuyomi on Sasuke after Kisame warned him in the 1st fight against Kakashi and others to save his eyes because they have a bigger goal (Naruto) which caused them to retreat from Jiraiya? Why did he have all those fights with his father and other people from uchiha police force about clan and anbu loyalty? Those are all moments from og naruto just because you ignored them or didn't notice them doesn't mean they didn't have deeper meaning
I liked Naruto series but cause of two reason I despised it. First the fandom and second the sudden appearance of kaguya and alien angle that it got in the end and till this date I just don't like what Kisimoto did to naruto just so the studios can milk it. Tbh I forgot the sage of the Six path was foreshadowed and thought it was something he introduced along before 4th Ninja War. but still it should have ended with the Sage of Six Path and the Rivalry btw Indra and Asura I still believe Kaguya and whole Alien Angle to the Series is just stretching and milking Naruto !!!
The first reason is goofy bc of that really was the case then you’d also despise one piece seeing as that fandom is far worse. There being a god in the series didn’t surprise me tbh. The series is about humans using magic amongst giant kaijus and is HEAVILY inspired by mythology. It makes sense. I think her existing makes sense and adds a lot of nuance to the lore of the world and is a net positive in that sense but she didn’t need to be physically present. Madara should’ve been the big bad in that arc
@@jin4712 Kaguya Story should be some folk tale at the least.. and I agree fandom of One Piece ngl and I am a big OP fan.. but Naruto just have too many inconsistency; like Naruto’s childhood is just unrealistic, Nagato get talk no justu, the worldbuilding was a big missed potential. We only hear stuff about the leaf and everything's focused on the leaf. Naruto had a lot of wasted potential
@@kabirsingh5502 Nah I agree with the Kaguya portion but Naruto is INSANELY consistent. The series has little to no plot holes, the quality from arc to arc is hella consistent and well written, the main cast has crazy development, the exploration of themes and dynamics is the top 3 in shounen, it has one of the best deuteragonist in animanga, the best antagonist line up in all of shounen, etc. world building is definitely left to be desired tho
The common mistake within the Naruto fanbase is they thought The Sage of the Six Path and Ōtsosuki was an "asspull" when it was actually fact foreshadowed all this time since Six Path's name was mentioned in a couple of times.
@lukasprovetti9057 Dub is great bro, I like the sub too but in Naruto I prefer dub. AOT and DS I prefer sub.. your just being lazy and following a crowd..
"he could easily kill me, so why doesnt he?" managed to, as by far the strongest person in the village teaming up with kisame who was kage level, not kill a single person spending a full day fighting konoha ninja, coincidentally showed up right after hiruzen died, he literally SMILED when naruto beat his clone in the kazekage rescue mission. it was strongly foreshadowed
@@AidenB1010 guy is the strongest for one, he literally made kakashi undergo 72 hours of torture which would realistically drive him off the deep end he cant return of had naruto writers even understood pyschology, he literally stated jiraya can beat them ( before kishi thought of new ms abilities mid shippuden which set off scaling in hindsight) The clone scene is my point, in shippuden thats when he changed his mind about the twist, also it contradicts itself, he smiled at naruto, yet told sasuke to murder naruto lol, lets not forget he put sasuke under 513k repeat torture genjutsu stated by the author, did not know tsunade was there, and sasuke would have passed away had tsunade not magically been there, also ignoring the realistic scarring sasuke would have All of this while ignoring a 7 year old post massacre sasuke somehow lived alone without ending himself like gaara tried to, sorry for the yap
1. guy wouldnt use 8 gates, with 7 hes weaker than itachi and at this point kisame 2. itachis done way worse with tsukuyomi, if he wanted to kill kakashi he would have as kakashi literally told us, even then we see amaterasu in this arc he still held back lethal moves 3. him stating jiraiya can beat them IS more foreshadowing, it was within about 15 chapters(i forget before or after) of orochimaru admitting not only inferiority but fear of itachi, and not long after that nerfed orochimaru 2v1s jiraiya and tsunade. it takes some sort of lack of critical thinking or just not having taken the effort to think at all to say jiraiya was ACTUALLY able to beat itachi ever at any point. 4. him not knowing tsunade would come doesnt change anything, kakashi and sasuke wouldve just taken longer to recover. itachis literally put sasuke under a WORSE genjutsu back when he was an elementary schooler and he recovered just fine(obviously only health wise, it effected him pretty greatly)
@@AidenB1010 1. Guy has no reason not to use 8 gates if his lively hood is under attack by akatski, he did not want to kill kakashi his sadistic nature would rather torture the copycat ninja and let them waste false hope he can protect them as you know kakashi was top 5 strongest at the time in the village, you did good chain connections of powerscaling then made huge assumptions, for one they literally drugged jiraya before the fight and he still preformed good, orochimaru was sick and dying and wanted the sharingan, he also given his part 1 abilities had no way to beat itachi while jiraya could summon the frogs, and that tongue trap, and ye we also see itachi is suffering from using black flames in that same episode he escapes jiraya, and also tells kisame to chopp narutos legs off and hes saved CONVIENENTLY BY JIRAYA who itachi was suprised broke out the harem genjutsu, I did not even mention the sasuke orochimaru stuff that complicates things even more Again it was stated sasuke would meet his ancestors had tsunade not came for plot bro 💀, and did u ignore what i said, itachi repeated that genjutsu 531k times, read that again, thats ABSURB OVERKILL, had the series understood basically psychology sasuke would be a vegetable lol, in the massacre he did genjutsu once not 5 hundred thousand, and it was a preview of what just happened
Another foreshadow. When we get introduced to Byakugan for the first time, Kakashi mentions about the sharingan being derived from the byakugan. And now we know how Sharingan came from Kaguya.
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Kabuto’s blood type being AB is also how when he injected himself with Orochimaru’s blood he was able to recover. AB blood type is referred to as the “universal recipient” where they can give and receive blood from any other type. It is also extremely rare lol
It makes sense how he was able to inject all those shinobi's DNA then, thanks for letting me know
This is not true. A quick google search says O negative is the universal donor not AB. Please stop spreading misinformation. (in relation to blood, plasma is a different story)
isn't blood type o extremely rare too?
You got that right for the most part, but just a heads up, I hate to be that guy but yeah,
AB blood can give to ALMOST any blood type. All except for O.
On the other hand though. The O blood type, known as golden blood, is a universal donor, and can give blood to any type.
Edit: golden blood is RH null blood, not O type blood. It’s an incredibly rare blood type with an estimate of about 50 people in the world having it.
@@antoniopraide6855 OP wasn't even consistent. They called AB the 'universal recipient', but then said they can both 'give and receive'.
Also one correction, Madara doesn’t call Gai one of the strongest but one of the strongest TAIJUTSU users. Quoted directly from the manga: “ This chakra of yours, I’ll acknowledge it. Of all those who have fought me over the years…there’s *no one* who surpasses you at taijutsu”
W mans
Yeah ur right
@markstein2845 Indra’s arrow or Naruto’s bijuudama rasenshuriken are arguably stronger than might guy. Also I quoted DIRECTLY from the manga which I physically own. The manga is the purest form and intent of Kishi’s story, it’s really not that hard to understand bruv
@@Carlisle-mn3fvwell considering those powers didn’t exist yet when Madara said that, it’s probably safe to assume Madara didn’t take those into account. Only person he would compare him with is obviously hashirama.
@@kleatise52 and Hashirama is objectively and factually stronger than Gai, hence Madara stated he’s the strongest TAIJUTSU users 🤦♂️ I genuinely do not understand how you people cannot grasp that simple concept
Two times in the manga, prior to us witnessing the Uchiha massacre, Sasuke recalls Itachi's words (the "keep running" speech) with a backdrop of Itachi's intense stare. Except, as shown here, his headband is on sideways.
It's a very unique way to wear it and we *never* see him wear it that way in any of the flashback scenes (in the manga). To me this is very clear foreshadowing of Sasuke's repressed memory since Kishimoto took care to *never* show Itachi wearing his headband this way, reserving it only for the reveal.
Yeah that doesnt seem to be great foreshadowing tbh... Kishimoto likely drew that specific moment on the spot initially but when he decided to flesh out Sasuke's origin, he chose to have Itachi wear his headband facing forward without putting that much thought into it.
From what I remember one of the final flashbacks where Itachi was crying, had him wearing that headband in the way Kishimoto had originally depicted(ofc I think that in the anime itself but it may not have been in the manga post-timeskip)..
i remember it being that it fell off his head and itachi put it back on in a rush before leaving sasuke
@@OogaBooga-sq4xg Yea Sasuke knocked it off with a kunai and Itachi put it back on like that. But Sasuke repressed the memory and so Itachi's speech to him and the angle of the headband blurred together in his mind
honestly the facts that you brought up about itachi weren't the only ones either when itachi returned to the leaf and after his fight with the jonin asuma brought up a good question "itachi knows what Naruto looks like and where he even lives so why not just go grab him if his mission is to get the ninetails?" nobody even knew he was in the village until he decided to stop for some tea and sweets he could have confronted Naruto used genjustu on him to lure him out of the village and be done with it but he didn't
That's true, there were multiple clues. Some ppl just intentionally ignore them all I guess.
I rewatched Naruto recently. In part 1, Itachi seemed very cold and, for all intents and purposes, a villain. But as soon as Shippuden started, Itachi seemed like a completely different person. He seemed like he was always trying to help Naruto more than anything. Personally, I think when he was writing the Naruto vs Sasuke fight in the final valley, he decided he would be better if he made Itachi a good guy somehow and started working on that immediately.
Idk, we didn't know enough about Itachi when we first showed up, but him revealing the Akatsuki's true target could be seen as Itachi leaking intel to Konoha while being watched by Kisame
Go watch episode 80 of old Naruto and speed it up until the end when Kisame and Itachi are standing on the rooftop of leaf village gate and see what Kisame asks Itachi
It's very well known for manga authors to retcon their stories as they progress through the storyline. A manga author most of the times come with new ideas and concepts on the fly while they're drawing.
This was a very good video. I caught the "Itachi, you also serve as the the Uchiha clan's pipeline to the village nerve center" along time ago.
Glad you enjoyed it bro! Those flashbacks were speckled with hints & clues
Also 2 other moments of foreshadowing of Tobi being Obito are:
1) During Gaara Retrieval arc, when Kakashi and Natuto are chasing Deidara and Kakashi uses Kamui on Deidaras arm (which goes into another dimension) its Tobi who returns the said arm back to Deidara.
2) This is a bit if a long shot but whenever Kakashi has cried its been out of his right eye, the one that Obito gave and given that Obito was more emotional that makes sense
the first one I can see, but the second one is a bit of a stretch
@@JuubiTaz yeah fair enough
1 could go either way. My assumption was it just got torn off and fell elsewhere. In the manga you don't see the hand fly off somewhere and looks like it got teleported like the cloth. I like to think it was since him being Obito was pretty obviously set from the beginning along with the Sharingan connection.
Only: tobi didnt retrieve his arm from the kamui dimension
You can clearly see it from every point onwards that deidara has a wooden elbow and THEN a normal underarm again
The elbow was sucked into kamui and never appeared again
The rest of the arm got cut off and retrieved
For me, Itachi's plot's biggest foreshadowing was the Tsukuyomi he puts on 7yo Sasuke. Especially, the scene where he kills their parents: if you pay attention, you'll see that both of their parents were immobilized, on their knees, just like they were "waiting for their deaths", wich is pretty strange for a clan lider who was know as a strong shinobi (as it was informed along the classic anime)
hmm.. that's a pretty good point
i thought their parents accepted their death. They even said something along the lines of "you have to fulfill your path, even if it doesn't align with ours"
Another bit of foreshadowing people seem to forget is that Kaguya and her backstory is mentioned and explained by Madara in chapter 646 of the manga, and episode 381 of the anime, long before she appears in the flesh during the end of the war.
yeah that's true, but it was a tad too late imo
@JuubiTaz do you think in Ch 233 Sasuke noticed Zetsu like how Hashirama did.
@@immortalpickle3104 it's unlikely. Zetsu only showed himself after Kakashi came to take Naruto back to Konoha, so Sasuke was long gone by then
There's a lot of foreshadowing about Itachi, even little details. Recently I saw a scene in the rescue of Gaara's arc where a clone of him is sent to fight Team Kakashi to prevent them form interrupting the ritual, and Itachi smiles when his clone is defeated. At first watch you can interpret it as a sign of contempt for his rivals who won't make it on time. But knowing the story and rewatching it, you realize he was glad to see the Leaf village still has competent shinobis capable of taking his clone down with relative ease.
yeah there's honestly too many clues to try to claim it came out of nowhere
I liked one small detail that showed Tobi was Obito is when they catched the 3 tailed and Tobi was very quiet lying on the 3 tails and even Daidera had to ask why was he so quiet, nice small detail since Rin was the 3 tail
The kabuto blood type thing has a different meaning in the manga, in my opinion.
First off, orochimaru saying "oh" and looking sad doesnt happen. Neither does kabuto's rebuttal
My thoughts are that orochimaru was actually trying to draw attention to sai.
Kabuto holds up a scroll and says hes missing a corpse for his collection and that he needs a male between 15-16. At this point sai is by the river digging in his bag.
Then oro makes that blood comment and the perspective of kabuto is facing toward Sai with oro sitting on the rock looking at both them.
It seems they were trying to gauge his reaction to those comments, since sai himself is actually a blood type A.
This is followed up sai being asked asked if everything is alright. They were clearly aware of his face changing when he couldnt find his book.
This is chapter 30o btw
hmm, that's an interesting interpretation, thanks for sharing that with me.
So basically they were trying to scare Sai by suggesting that he fits the profile for a corpse that Kabuto needs for his experiments?
@@JuubiTaz They do use that as a joke towards Kabuto when he says "maybe i am type A" when he forgets something and walks away. Subtle but one of my favorite bits of humor in the series
Kabuto was foreshadowed to be a very malevolent individual even as early as the Forest of Death.
One of those Amegakure Ninja slashed him across the bridge of his nose and knocked his glasses off.
We see a flash of him displaying an evil glare before Naruto knocks the guys out.
I just went back to look over it, that was probably foreshadowing his alliance with Orochimaru tho no?
@@JuubiTaz Perhaps.
I just feel it was l to show that he was *FAR* more dangerous then he let on.
He even made a comment about his "old blood" - as if there's an entirely different person underneath.
In any case - love your content bro. I still watch that "Danzou Retcon" video and laugh my ass off on how you were clowning him.😂😂
@@marcusfrazier4923 You might be right, I think it could be interpreted either way. Sasuke's the only one from team 7 to sense Kabuto's malice.
Thanks bro, I really appreciate the support. Lol, the Danzo Retcon Theory is a classic, I'd never miss an opportunity to trash Danzo 🤣. I recently made a video where I clown his 2 co-conspirators Koharu & Homura, I think you'd enjoy it!
Itachi using Tsukuyomi on Sasuke when he arrived with kisame makes sense as right before them kisame was warning itachi constantly not to overuse his eye so he was using Sasuke and Amaterasu as a reason to retreat
trueeee
Non sense . Sasuke manage to wake up thanks to Tsunade . How Itachi could have possibly knew about Tsunade coming back .
@@Sebastien-uv6xf Tsunade is famous Naruto is with jiraiya a legendary Sanin that's around him being close to Sasuke with itachis knowledge it's only a matter of time Tsunade would come into the picture
@@orpheemulemo8053 Come on even for an Itachitard this argument is absurd. Itachi sent his " beloved brother " and Kakashi in coma. By this time , Tsunade was retired and every one knew he was afraid of blood. A kage who is afraid of blood. But maybe you are going to tell me Itachi clearly foresaw the battle of the Sannins and saw how Tsunade overcome his fear of blood ?
@@Sebastien-uv6xf One the precedure on Kakashi and Sasuke does not require blood touching or any of that sort Itachi in the same arc told Sasuke he needed more vengeance to come and kill him it's clear Itachis motivation is not killing Sasuke but motivating him to do so
The kage is the strongest Tsunade being a sannin after the thirds death meaning that position she would be a candidate
Kishimoto himself and his editor you can search this said the moment itachi appeared in the manga he had already planned him to be a person who isn't evil but does things because he is forced
I was fine with the Itachi plot twist--I just wasn't fine with how the characters (and many fans) see Itachi as a good brother despite the psychological, physical, and emotional abuse he put Sasuke through.
Yeah and his plan was meh too
Calm down lolol
You have to realize he wasn't trying to be seen as a good brother, he even said he ended up with sasuke, he wanted to strip all the love sasuke had for him because if you remember sasuke loved loved itachi, it was extreme but he gave sasuke a target to put all his hate towards. It's probably how he felt about himself too, he's still a good brother by saving Sasuke, then coming back after hokage died to check danzo. He also saved him from orichimaru, he was protecting him while trying to get sasuke to take all his hate out on him his whole life. That's why sasuke went crazy after learning the truth, he was ready to destroy the whole leaf for what itachi went through.. clearly sasuke forgave him.
The only meh part was what he put Sasuke through everything else he did was literally the best option.. we'd have no Show to watch if the cou de'tAt went through.. itachis Dad literally was gonna kill Little naruto and take the 9tails 😅 itachi literally saved naruto 🐐
@@rajdhillon1362 Itachi saving Sasuke (and Naruto by extension) doesn't mean all his physical, emotional, and physchological abuse towards Sasuke should be cast aside. What's the point of saving someone's life if you're gonna make them so miserable they want to kill you?
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Dude, what more implication people need than the fact Itachi was wearing a full ANBU gear with a Konoha headband during the massacre - when earlier that day he wore his standard clothing? Even in Sasuke's part 1 flashbacks he is clearly wearing combat clothing (armor, forearm protector) indicating he is doing a mission. No reason for a psycho kid who just went nuts to put on his military uniform before killing his parents. Actually, Sasuke should have noticed, and ask him about this!
I can confidently say that Itachi was intended to be a double agent working for the least since at least the flashbacks Sasuke had in the valley of the end
even Kaguya name was mentioned when they introduced Kimimaru
Okay, you might pull a muscle with that reach reach!
Firstly you spelled it wrong, and kaguya wasn't a concept then
I think that is simply a coincidence.
Simply mentioning a name doesn't mean that is a foreshadowing.
@pandudewabrata5188 the Author foreshadowed Madara before his name was mentioned.
I'm not saying that he planned everything (it's impossible) but there are many evidence that he thought deeply about the Lore
I mean Jiraiya talking about Minato doesn’t really give it away that he’s Naruto’s dad, but when I first watched Naruto what really gave away for me was when Kakashi said “I really wish I could tell him” after seeing his reflection on Naruto.
yeah, I dont understand why he "couldn't tell him" at that point, like he was 16 im sure he's dying to know who his parents were
@@JuubiTaz facts, but if Naruto was able to put 2+2 together (he couldn’t do that) he woulda figure it out but for that Ima give him the benefit of the doubt since Minato was the strongest of that specific era and maybe he thought he was compared to Minato because of that🤷🏾♂️. Also when Jiraiya and Tsunade was talking about how Naruto looks like Kushina and Minato.
There is a difference between Foreshadow, Parallelisms and Retcon you know....
Who said foreshadow and retcon are the same? They are opposite, boso.
Thank you you are 1 of the few Naruto youtubers that actually knows the story and knows Kishimoto's foreshadowing 🔥
I don't know if this counts or maybe I'm stretching but I love the subtle foreshadowing of Kaguya with Kimmimaro coming from the Kaguya Clan. We thought it was mainly just a cool reference from Japanese Mythology as Kishimoto likes to do, but it actually set the groundwork for Kaguya and the SO6P having been real and having descendent throughout the world
it's possible.. but I wouldve liked for Kaguya to have more foreshadowing tbh
@@JuubiTaz i understand. But remember the sage of six paths had son's, so that mean the sage must also have parents (his own mother & father). And a clan that he came from. 👍
Madara just really didnt like getting backshotted i guess the wood was too hard
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Another hint/foreshadowing about Obito's true identity is shown after he and Deidara capture the Three-Tails. Obito lies down on the Three-Tails, suggesting he's comfortable because the Three-Tails was once inside Rin. Deidara notices but doesn't think much of it. When you understand the meaning behind Obito's gesture, it becomes obvious and nostalgic
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Ashura and Indra were literally shown in flashback Obito talked about...
The whole Sasuke's decision thing also ties in with their destinies. Pretty sure when they did an all out assault on Juubi within the barrier, Sasuke directly aimed to incinerate the Ten Tails, which was what he tried to do after Kaguya was defeated and he sealed all 9 tailed beasts. The introduction of Indra and Ashura only solidified what was being setup. (and also literally shows that naruto wasn't determined by his destiny but people still use that to say kid neji was right smh)
9:10 You Forgot To Mention The Scene Where Obito Phases Through Naruto's Rasengan Against The Eight-Man Squad
In The OG Japanese, Naruto Says "Out Of Our Way" While Attacking Tobi From Behind, He Notices And Says "A Shadow Clone?"(KageBunshin?) In His Real Obito Voice, Not His Tobi Voice
9:25 Also Obito : Oh thanks, Kakashi, finally I know this jutsu's name
The Last one Is interesting
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Damn, that sounds more like a threat😂
Congrats on 2k subs Bro! Awesome list as always.
This is just the beginning bro we're trying to reach that 10k 😎
Thanks for being a long time supporter man!!
@@JuubiTaz Always there for the bro as long as these top quality vids get dropped
I think you're right on the whole kakashi hitting haku with the chidori being representative of him hitting rin with it. I was actually thinking the same thing. Its the only other time kakashi hit someone "innocent' with that attack on accident and killed them. He clearly pauses too from the guilt or the reminder
Itachi one is so true
I dont see how people thought he murdered his clan to test his power 🤷
some people will see what they wanna see, but yeah the clues were obvious
Itachi to Kisame: "if you take this one on, it won't be without cost" 😬
Just another thing for Obito, I ain't sure if it's in the manga but in the anime when the akatsuki captures the 3 tails Deidara makes a comment about it not having an host and Tobi just stays silent (since the last one was Rin)
Yeah I remember that, but wasn't Yagura the last one?
@@JuubiTaz oh yeah you're totally right
I haven't read all comments here, so I don't know if that was mentioned. There is another Itachi forshadowing(although it is shown short before the truth about Itachi is revealed). During Itachi vs Sasuke fight Orochimaru appeared and said that now he can finally take over Sasuke's body. For just one second we can see that Itachi got angry and immediately pierced Orochimaru with Totsuka Blade.
hmm yeah that's a good one too
Obito is mentioned for the first time in the anime on the 3rd hokages funeral yugao see kakashi at the monument stone and ask him if he’s paying respects to obito, then kakashi goes on about that the grave makes him think of the mistakes he made in the past, giving us foreshadowing of the backstory we would get in shippuden
I enjoyed this video overall; there was some really cool stuff in the beginning that I had no idea was set up so early. That being said, I take issue with the argumentation in the section about foreshadowing the reincarnation reveal.
Every single point in that argument is something that showcases that Naruto and Sasuke were compared to the characters they're supposedly reincarnated from. I don't think anyone out there would deny that there are parallels between Naruto v. Sasuke and Hashirama v. Madara-the story very deliberately juxtaposes those characters and their conflicts. However, the evidence presented is insufficient to claim that those moments foreshadow reincarnation (a mechanic which isn't hinted at throughout the rest of the story) as opposed to them being present to help solidify the connection between Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry and the cycle of hatred referenced throughout the story.
In Chapter 16 of Naruto titled "Who are you?!" we first time see Obito, Kakashi was covering his left eye(Sharingan one) with his hand and we introduce to a Masked Man. If this isn't foreshadowing of Tobi being Obito than Idk what it is
There’s one in the anime about obito (not sure about the manga) is when itachi and kisame were in the coffee shop, kakashi arrives and see kurenai and asuma, kakashi mentions how he was gonna buy something to put on a grave and asuma says ( is it something for obito) mentioning this right when we see the akatsuki too
Itachi being a prodigy, entering war at the age of 6 or something, pretty much built up his resolve to avoid war at all costs from early on. Also zetsu one shootinge madara when he's meant to have senjutsu to detect things better, was never explained. Hashirama detecting him while tired would actually lean towards it being contradictory for him to be caught off so easily
Naruto was actually able to detect BZ's intent to stab Madara, but I always assumed it was due to his ability to sense negative emotions
I'm not sure about the sasuke saying "that time, crying"... but itachi was supposed to have his bandana on the side, similar to zabuza, at the time, kishimoto thought that was a sign of a "missing nin" but it kinda looks stupid.
I always tell people that bring up the Itachi one. "Bro we are shown what happens prior and during the massacre from the lense of a child. Who quote "Didn't know anything" about what his clan and family was doing. To juxtapose where Kishimoto took this plotline is more like: I don't like it so im going to deny the possibility." Which at that point you lose all credibility. The signs were straight up there Kakashi wondering why he didn't kill em. Orochimaru wanting Sasuke because he couldnt get Itachi. Later were shown it wasnt even a fight Itachi straight up stomped him. But Itachi ran from Jiraiya. We saw Itachi is a whole perception blitz speed tier above Kakashi. But he doesn't really do anything to Naruto in the time he had. He tells Naruto to "come out" of the room. This gives Naruto a greater chance to be seen and heard, if they take him. He tells Kakashi the plans of the akatsuki in double speak "The Legacy of the 4th Hokage." Kakashi is the only one that would know Itachi is saying NARUTO. Because he's the only none higher official who knows about Naruto being Minato's son. Itachi knows because of his mother taking him to see Naruto when she wanted to adopt him. Jiraiya shows up and says "You're target really is Naruto."
Before Itachi beats on Sasuke. He remarks about his arm. He literally broke it to make him stand down. Probably trying to keep him safe of Kisame. Itachi then proceeds to beat him which can be further evidence he's protecting him from Kisame.
Again anyone saying that Itachi being good is a "retcon asspull" is slow and need reading comprehension lessons. This plotline is literally developed perfectly. The plotline basically builds itself. There's no world where Itachi runs into all those Jonin and doesn't at least incapacitate them. When Kisame is right fucking there.
yeah that's true, and people seem to forget that Kisame was partnered upon with Itachi specifically to keep an eye of him and make sure he didn't betray the Akatsuki, so ofc Itachi had to act like the bad guy
6:20 I'll add to that that the fourth's name is present on Jiraiya's toad summoning contract scroll
very concise and well informed video!! 🔥
great video
Hashirama sensing black zetsu shows hashirama was a level of his own
FINALLY someone talked about itachi,
Most of the "fans" decide to simply ignore things like
° fukaku's insistence on itachi attending the meeting, defining him as "the link between the clan and the village"
° Itachi getting angry and saying "it's not wise to judge others based on your own prejudices" after the police officers STATED shisui was loyal to the clan and would never commit suicide
° itachi saying the uchihas were obsessed with the clan and lost sight of was really important
° the uchihas threatening itachi because had other spies on the ANBU and he wouldn't get away with in case of betraying the clan
° Itachi saying that being excellent makes a person arrogant (the uchihas planning a coup d'état, subjugate all other villagers with the kyuubi so fukaku becomes hokage and throughout the manga EVERYONE refers to the uchihas as the elite)
saying that naruto is full of retconnans is LITERALLY A TREND that never went away because nobody wants to read 700 chapters but still want be part of the trend
All the points you mention are from Shippuden. Most people think Itachi wasn't planned to be a double agent in part 1, but that was retconned by Shippuden.
@@pkj2148 WRONG! All these points come from the FIRST AND ONLY complete flashback we get of sasuke's childhood, during the battle at the Valley of the End.
@@tosemnome1000 Towards the end of Naruto, which is later in the series.
@@pkj2148 you definitely haven't read the manga, is calling chapters 220, 221 and 222 as "Towards the end" of a series with 700 chapters
@@tosemnome1000 I thought it was obvious what I meant by end of the series. I'm talking about end of pre-timeskip Naruto. That was already close to Shippuden.
thank you for this video! i was so tired of the stupid haters who call everything a retcon 😂
lol happy to help
Black zetsu-->Madara--->Obito is parallel of Gato-->Zabuza-->Haku(suprising both have a masked member too)
"Shonobi are tool to be used", "Shinobi should abandon their feelings" are the words we got to know in Land of waves from Zabuza.
but Zabuza failed to be a shinobi, he should his care for Haku He wasn't able to become TOOL but on the otherhand Madara did abandon his feels inprocess became a Perfect Shinobi the kinds of which are there to be used.
were Madara got used, thrown and killed by black zetsu, Zabuza broke free and killed Gato himself
I thought you were gonna make the connection to how Madara controlled the Blood mist village
@@JTTT59 that's a common knowledge so I didn't
Minato being Naruto’s dad I could see coming from a mile away because of Bardock
Itachi leaving jiraya and kakshi kurenai asuma team was an obvious foreshadowing as well
The whole Madara and Zetsu thing is more of a decent use of what Kishimoto had in his hands. The best explanation for it is that he was asked to help create a sequel (he has stated that he was approached for a sequel), and most probably under pressure, he had to commit this horrible retcon and give some reasoning to it to fit it in. Zetsu seemed the best guy at that point (the secondary antagonist atp, literally his will and scout), the whole theme with getting backstabbed (fun fact his Susano faces both sides hinting to his insecurity about being back stabbed) and using a character template from Kaguya clan...
Though he didn't have to do allat, he could have just made Madara go berserk because Kaguya's genetics were imbedded into the god tree/ten tails. Like how much better would that have been, she takes over, T7 fights, and in the end Madara fights back to gain control admits which rikudo chibaku tensei is cast. Tbh the whole zetsu thing leaves a bad taste in ur mouth, especially writing wise...
No because then that doesnt give madara the sense of absolute failure in life. He wasted his whole life filled with hatred and wanted to create a world where everyone could be happy forever. He thought he was using obito and when he learned he was a puppet too, he really felt a taste of his own medicine. Honestly if you think about it simply the saying "the will of fire" is a foreshadowing to kaguyas will. The will of fire being hagoromo and the opposite being hers. You can also notice how there is both black and white zetsu being light and dark the whole time. Its also a foreshadow using hashirama's cells to make the the white zetsu clones specifically because he seen it as the weaker side of him and disposable which can be the conflict between seeing her sons being more like her and one as defiant and weak but still her child and black zetsu was jealous. They also really dont go into why dark zetsu on his own is so malicious during the kissame vs octo pops (i forget the exact scenario). Oh and when obito saw what happened to rin while wearing white zetsu, its turns into black zetsu, they make it seem like obito created black zetsu when in reality he was slipping into his mind in a more discreet way than when he did with hagoromo's son. He didnt know that obito wasnt the reincarnate and started to use the akatsuki to keep eyes on all the Uchiha which is why he specifically wanted to record all the Uchiha fights. There is soooo many hints if you actually rewatch it and it was a very good twists all around and deeply plotted from the beginning. I mean youre not supposed to understand it was a foreshadowing until after and even then it still can be missed. Ive unfortunately watched the series 3 times and im halfway through the manga 😅 wish me luck
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The point of "absolute" failure is good, only that doesnt work since Zetsu barely "used" Madara, all he was hang on his coat tails, apparently "lying" about his identity, and when Madara achieved his goal, which was also apparently Zetsu's goal, he betrayed him and conveniently revived Kaguya, a little "too easily".
Kaguya herself didnt have good foreshadowing, your point of "will of fire" is quite weak, especially since it has nothing to do with this and is a theme of the perseverance of shinobi and their strong will.
You're also somewhat being wrong about information it seems.
Black & White zetsu are beings that Madara created using Yin & Yang style offscreen, which is one huge reason why the retcon doesnt work, because in the end Madara himself using ninjutsu created them, he even creates a black staff with his will (like zetsu) during his final moments with obito where he gives him black & white zetsu along with it, which furthur contradicts the retcon as madara not only knowingly created Zetsu, but also stored his will in another object, yet he DOESNT know that zetsu wasnt his will? With all his sensory powers that can even detect intent? He got surprised and stabbed by such a weaker character in his strongest state and coudnt do anything about it?
These things already show how wrong the twist was and he didnt need to be taken out like that for his character to get a satisfying end, not when the fight with him was robbed and literally any other way could have fulfilled the role to defeat the false messiah.
This is further supported by how Kaguya is an easy way to make a sequel, narutos epilouge is a prolouge for said sequel, kishimoto says that he was approached for a sequel (which he himself wasnt interested in), a very minor statement, but in their latest interview, Ikemoto acknowledges about how Otsutsuki werent explored, which is their whole point as they were introduced to be explored in a sequel
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND sorry i had to go back and refresh. So madera thought he was making the white zetsus with hashiramas cells but it was only black zetsu pulling them from the infinite tsukuyomi tree (black zetsu has been inside of madera since he "died" in the battle with Hashirama) black zetsu was able to supress his chakra entirely which is why he didnt sense him. So he used him to do his work for him like prepping obito and passing down the idea of his plan. Since he has hashirama cells imbued into him, he thought his will manifested into dark zetsu.
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND also yeah kagya had no foreshadowing at all besides the fact that well the sage of 6 paths must have parents with some kind of power since he had rinnegan and the founder of jutsu and chakra in "normal humans" but this is never said and it seems they see him sort of a god himself and maybe not thinking where he may have come from (which is silly)
@@goofygamers61 the whole of ur first point just doesn logically work.
what the frick did madara create then? and madara quite literally created objects of his will TWICE.
madara states he uses yin and yang release to CREATE his zetsu pawns, not fish them out without realising
good points but kakashi killing haku/rin with chidori is too much of a stretch, it's not like a pannel was shown with kakashi in utter shock like he was getting PTSD. Good find though.
yeah ur right, it may have been a bit of a stretch
I personally think Itachi putting Sasuke in a coma proves Itachi was originally intended to be a villain. Just no way to justify that under the assumption he was always intended to be good. The flashback to Sasuke's childhood is the time that Kishimoto decided he was gonna be a good guy or at least left it ambiguous so he could choose later down the line. Lot of those things you pointed could go either way. Only thing those proved was Itachi didn't care for the clan and was up to something. Even his breakdown could be seen as him viewing the Uchiha as not worth the self importance since he's so much greater. His talks about being an obstacle could just be him grooming Sasuke to be his final challenge. Being the kind older brother would make the hate worse as well.
One thing people assume is that all foreshadowing is completely thought through. Most of the time in long running series is they'll leave threads and ideas in the series to hopefully be used later. Maybe they have an extremely vague idea and sometimes it'll be more fleshed out. Sometimes it's something mindlessly put in or not intended to be anything at all but ends up just slotting in like my favorite example in Naruto is the beta design of Itachi with the sideways bandana being used later when Sasuke remembers Itachi crying. That technically hints at a scene we don't see before that but it was purely a product of designs changing while they haven't shown up yet.
My favorite intentional foreshadowing was Kakashi having his own Mangekyo and Itachi being blind. Kakashi remarks to Itachi that his vision is dulled and he can only know that for one reason. It's not like it's a long wait for it to pay off but little things like that help make things seem less like an ass pull or a writing contrivance to hint at something even if just a little.
in the opening tsuki ga ookisa opening 14 naruto shippuden
we get a foreshadow of who obito is, there is a flash cut from rin's death, then cut to obito with new mask
maybe more of a spoiler, I'd imagine Obito was revealed in the manga by then
The war arc's deadlock was NOT foreshadowed. It's a callback to when it happened in the first part.
1:29 SSJ 2 Naruto foreshadowing 😳
I mean... does the Guy foreshadowing really count? Like the 8th gate was being hyped to be beyond the Kage since Lee's fight and everyone knew he was Kakashi's rival, so did him being strong surprise anyone? It's like saying Hiruzen's strength was being "foreshadowed" since chapter 1.
I think when we see Guy first, and he moves so fast that Sasuke monologues to himself "is he even human", and then we fast forward to the Guy vs Madara fight, and he's moving so fast that Gaara says that Guy's movements are "not human", that's a pretty clear case of foreshadowing imo
You going to mars with these reach
maybe the Kakashi stabbing Haku to foreshadow Rin was a reach, but the rest is fair game
While I agree with most of them, but I still dont think black zetsu betrayal was planned. Yeah, I still think that is a retcon.
Foreshadowing must be told way before the reveal. Putting some hints in the same arc with the reveal is essentially changing the plan just before the 'plot twist'. That's why every black zetsu 'hints', which were told during the war arc, aren't a foreshadowing.
Even zetsu appearance at the end of naruto part 1 is not a foreshadowing. That simply means that 'zetsu watched all the time', not 'zetsu is the last boss'.
Naruto: The Series where nobody actually dies.
Jiraiya looking at you like: 😐
Neji🕊️
@@melisalovin5052 ^^
One of the few shounen where a shit ton of major characters die tf you talkin about 😂
@@jin4712 nahh not like GoT TWD or AoT
Yeah, Itachi was the most controversial and bamboozled people were calling out Kishi on this one. I think we can never truly recreate from the hints how the creative process looked like from the hints, like you did, but the biggest issue fandom had was that they actually enjoyed Itachi's cold, cruel persona. Also, they were living in the world of shounen were characters who were not too complex, only wanting power existed in a big numbers. For example villains in DB when they are winning, still want to fight to no end and are searching for stronger opponents leaving main characters alive and letting them grow even at risk of their victory (villains victory, that is). Similar case with Hisoka or Illumi - cruel,manipulative brother who tortures his own firmly believing that it's love (Itachi even copies his dialogue lines to Killua while speaking to Sasuke). So fans were thinking oh,another one. But we will forgive him,because he is cool". And suddenly,what a twist. So fans of old Itachi, no matter the hint s in the video will insist that was an asspull.
Yes, from the wider perspective it makes sense, that Itachi was not all he appeared to be. We were seeing him from Sasuke's point of view and he was never objective,not even before his trauma. Itachi was shown in all his talks with a clan as plotting and hating and Sasuke was shown as beating himself up over his naivette,but we were unaware what we were looking at and that was something impossible to figrue out without Tobi's story and Danzo introduction in Shippuuden. Also, Kishi was crafting his world more carefuly, no reason to think he would treat such important character so carelessly and make him so simple.
And Kishimoto crafted his lore and world way more carefuly than we give him credit for, even if not all his ideas made to the manga. Statues of Kages were awsome - each of them became important character. So why not Madara ?
The same goes for Kakashi gaiden. In anime it's harder to believe it's not a retcon,becasue it's shown way later,but if it was not important to the plot,why Kishi would release it in the manga continuity and not as a special of sorts ? Tobito wars were crazy. Some claimed he can not be Obito,since "they are not the same height at all ! I measured with the RULER" HAha
Love the omakes, sketches and covers - a lot of foreshadowing and probably forgotten concepts. Deadlock was beautiful. wonder thou, if Kisih first was thinking about old legend about Jiraiya and animals from it paralleling Team Seven and later came with the idea to include ACTUAL three sannin as mentors or not. Sadly, Sakura wasn't as important as covers implied. Wellp.
Kabuto's blood also shows he will be kinda two persons in one body, at least until he will "defeat" Oro. But it also shows how japanese ninja's are - thinking in superstitious way :)
Thank you for your video, wanted to comment on it long time ago. Choosing to have all of it in one video instead of separate does something good - it shows that Kishi is consistent and he doesn't want deus ex machina in his story.
The black zetsu reveal was pretty good tbh. He was always lurking around everyone, didn't do much and finally showed his real intentions at the end. I found it a pretty epic moment tbh
Black Zetsu and Kaguya were the biggest ass pulls in anime
what about when the 3rd summoned the grim reaper and said "so this is what the 4th was talking about"
hmm, yeah that's a good one
The zestu one is interesting, since you can rethink that scene after the ending as Zetsu spying on the reincarnation of the brothers, not for the Akatsuki. But the twist in the end of the show is this shit
I think the best foreshadowing of Itachi being a good guy was when he told Kisame to retreat when Jiraiya showed up. He said they couldn't beat Jiraya but we now know Itachi could have single handedly beat Jiraiya and captured Naruto if he wanted to.
also Kisame himself was confused as to why Itachi would run & believed that Itachi would solo, and Itachi has to play it off as a "oh we'd both kill each other"
I think Kishimoto really meant Jiraiya could beat both of them at the time. It was to hype up Jiraiya. He then retconned Itachi to being a good guy, and made Itachi much stronger than he had originally created him to be, so it now gives a different understanding of that scene.
@@pkj2148 He also made Kisame A LOT stronger than he was in pt 1
Some more interesting foreshadowing with Black Zetsu, in an early databook (though I forget the exact one), one of Black/White Zetsu's abilities was the ability to record whatever he see and can than share the recording with whoever he merges with. This was obviously foreshadowing for Kaguya, as he was recording important points of history all for her sake.
This series is filled with so much good foreshadowing though, only a few I dislike how they played out. Specifically, the whole reincarnation deal. Clearly, there was some manner of cycle, but I disliked how they made it into literal reincarnations. There are so many characters who parallel people who live in the past, yet were never stated to be reincarnations, yet Asura and Indra are the only ones who reincarnate? Just always left a sour taste in my mouth, which was made even worse with what happened to Neji.
I mean, Ashura & Indra were no ordinary folk, they were the Sage's sons, but I get you.
As for Black Zetsu, Kishimoto said that one of the Akatsuki had a secret alliance that was gonna shock everyone (I cant remember the exact saying but it was something along those lines). Its likely that Zetsu was always meant for some major plot twist, but the plot twist being Kaguya wasn't decided till the war arc
@@JuubiTaz He said that about Black Zetsu? I never heard about that until now, that's so cool.
Love this series religious ties.
"foreshadow" isn't split into syllables that way and pronounced that way. 😂
the "foreshadowing" of madara's weakness being someone getting behind him is bogus. His flashback fight barely happened like 1 year before. But madara being foreshadowed was like 15 years. That's just a retcon plus a stupid weakness... someone getting behind a NINJA??? Really???
yeah im not saying the foreshadowing makes up for the disappointment of the big bad Madara losing in such a way
I agree with the Itachi stuff but I've always been confused on why he told Sasuke that he would have to kill his best friend to achieve the mangekyou sharingan. I know it's a hint to what happened with shisui but It seems Kishimoto didn't think that one through if Itachi wasn't actually a bad guy. Just a little nitpick of mine.
I don't think he'll respond but I agree
He didn’t think sasuke would foolie his word ,he thought sasuke hated him so much that he wouldn’t do what he wanted him to do but his decision had the exact opposite effect
@@lakobos9359 weird assomption man, he obviously want sasuke to be stronger...
That is because in the cannon (Itachi's novel), Itachi thought that this was the only way to awaken it.
Also cus Shisui asked Itachi to kill him by pulling him off of the precipice because Shisui also believed that the mangekyou was only awakened if you murdered your best friend (since Shisui also obtained it after "murdering" his best friend)
@@vitcema itachi's novel are not canon...
@9:46 bro was just keeping it real
2:21 *Raikiri
Sorry.
i dont know if i ever assumed itachi was good because like everyone i hated him at first but i did question some things he said the way he worded the things he said to sasuke and then if i remember right there's a moment u can see a tear in his eye
I didn't know if he was good or bad, but I always knew there was a bigger reason behind massacring the entire clan other than just "power"
Kishimoto was a god of foreshadowing didn't know hashirama sensed something
The fact is people take Gospel from character statements in the series that is not said by the narrator
If reaching was a video.
The reincarnation thing, I don’t think the issue is that it “came out of nowhere”, but more so that it cheapens the accomplishments and credibility of our protagonist and his rival. I personally saw it as more of them two (Sasuke, Naruto…then Hashi and Madara prior), simply being two of a kind that come about once a generation or so…but not an outright reincarnation. It’s not an asspull, it’s just lame, really.
The "Itachi is actually a good guy" has no foreshadowing or hints in part 1. What you brought up is simply Sasuke rationalizing his motives and trying to guess at itachi's, but I dont think that line was meant to be taking literally. It does have some in part 2, because that is where it was planned, and Itachi actually liked Naruto as a person, and as a true brotherly replacement for him after he knew he was going to let Sasuke kill him, but this is legitimately not the case in part 1.
Him being a double agent is not necessarily a case for him being good, but I truly dont remember if we knew that in part 1 or shippuden as well so I'll leave it out.
But my biggest piece of evidence to suggest that he was NOT planned to be a "good guy pacifist" the whole time is that he LITERALLY TOLD SASUKE TO KILL NARUTO. Thats what he told him to do when we seen them first meet. He told him you do not have enough hate to defeat me, you need more. You will only have a chance when you possess these eyes (mangekyou) and in order to get these you have to kill your best friend as I did.
I would argue that he maybe, not as written in part 2, but as planned from the start, did not kill Shisui but instead witnessed his suicide and it made him snap.
But Itachi, who was shown to like Naruto in part 2, and thought that he was a good friend for Sasuke, and trusted him with the fate of the village, told Sasuke to kill him to sever all of his ties and gain power in part 1. That, to me, is the single most damning piece of evidence that suggests Itachi was never initially written to be good, but later decided to be good for the plot.
Now, Itachi is like, my favorite anime character, and Im fine with him being good or bad, and I liked the plot twist that he was good the whole time instead of just being an asshole just because. But I can also acknowledge that it was definitely something that was thought up after the conclusion of part 1. The man told his little brother to kill his best friend. There's no love in that. And there was no reason for it. lol
The one justification for Itachi's suggestion that Sasuke kill Naruto was that, Itachi wanted Sasuke to awaken the MS in order to become strong enough to fend for himself.
According to Tobi, Itachi had to prolong his life by taking medications, so its likely that he wanted Sasuke to awaken the Mnagekyou so that he could look out for himself incase Danzo made a move against him if Itachi died.
When Sasuke refused to follow his brothers footsteps, Itachi decided to prolong his life & die at Sasuke's hands
Go watch episode 80 of old Naruto skip to the end of the episode when Itachi and Kisame first appear in cannon listen carefully what Kisame asks him after Itachi comment on how village looks wracked that's the biggest foreshadowing in part 1 about itachi's true feelings
i wish the anime did that kind of animemaion it looks cool has hell
I disagree that Obito talking to Naruto and Kakashi about how they will be chosen by destiny is forshadowing as at that point its just setup for the concept, not a hint of it.
he literally compares Naruto to Hashirama & says that Sasuke is of his kind (he went by Madara at that point), and then he talks about the sages sons & how the conflict started with them. How more obvious does it need to be
@@JuubiTaz Isn't it too close to the actual reveal that they are indeed chosen by fate to be forshadowing? Hmm, maybe not, now that I think about it as this is at about half way through Shippuden and their ressurection happens way latter. Maybe you are right, but I still feel like its a bit close arc-wise to be forshadowing.
@@shadowpriest2574 Yeah ur right, it is a bit too close, but the set up was started from the valley of the end
Two mickies before the 4th minute ✌🏾, nah
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Play at 1.25x speed. Thank me later.
Your little brain can't process a video longer than 13 minutes can it?
Did you have ChatGPT write the script for this video and you’re just reading it? That’s what it sounds like tbh
no I write my own scripts
@@JuubiTaz well just try to make it sound more natural next time, it’s very easy to tell this is scripted and you’re reading off your lines. Try doing bullet points you want to address and do multiple takes if you have to- makes it seem way more natural and human
@@MeekMallardwhy is it a problem that he reads from his lines? You can clearly understand what he's trying to say and comprehend it perfectly
You used a Ferret picture not a Weasel. I had a Ferret
3:40 wtf happened to Sakura's eyes? 😂
I love your video man but I’m sorry to say that most of these are called “Retcons”.
glad you liked the video, but which part of it was a retcon exactly?
"As long as they live, the [reincarnate] cycle will continue"..? that doesnt make a lot of sense to me 7:19
I think we have different definitions of foreshadowing 🤣. Some of your examples were not foreshadowing , they appear later than the twists....
Also people figured out tobi was obito before the whole madara false identity...
As for itachi's "foreshadowing" is reaching. sorry. Kishimoto started planning this twist only in the begging of shippuden, when danzo used sai to assassinate sasuke🤣
He did make a good video about foreshadowing. What I don't understand is you making this comment then you didn't defend your opinion properly.
@@laudydorado5245 for the first paragraph i didn't say anything about the quality of the video.
As for the second, you're projecting hard considering your reply 🤣🤣🤣
Why was itachi in anbu close when he killed his clan then? Why did Kisame ask him if he's sad and does he still have feelings for his old village when Itachi said how wrecked it looked after orochimaru attack? Why did Itachi use Tsukuyomi on Sasuke after Kisame warned him in the 1st fight against Kakashi and others to save his eyes because they have a bigger goal (Naruto) which caused them to retreat from Jiraiya? Why did he have all those fights with his father and other people from uchiha police force about clan and anbu loyalty? Those are all moments from og naruto just because you ignored them or didn't notice them doesn't mean they didn't have deeper meaning
I liked Naruto series but cause of two reason I despised it. First the fandom and second the sudden appearance of kaguya and alien angle that it got in the end and till this date I just don't like what Kisimoto did to naruto just so the studios can milk it.
Tbh I forgot the sage of the Six path was foreshadowed and thought it was something he introduced along before 4th Ninja War. but still it should have ended with the Sage of Six Path and the Rivalry btw Indra and Asura I still believe Kaguya and whole Alien Angle to the Series is just stretching and milking Naruto !!!
The first reason is goofy bc of that really was the case then you’d also despise one piece seeing as that fandom is far worse. There being a god in the series didn’t surprise me tbh. The series is about humans using magic amongst giant kaijus and is HEAVILY inspired by mythology. It makes sense. I think her existing makes sense and adds a lot of nuance to the lore of the world and is a net positive in that sense but she didn’t need to be physically present. Madara should’ve been the big bad in that arc
@@jin4712 Kaguya Story should be some folk tale at the least.. and I agree fandom of One Piece ngl and I am a big OP fan.. but Naruto just have too many inconsistency; like Naruto’s childhood is just unrealistic, Nagato get talk no justu, the worldbuilding was a big missed potential. We only hear stuff about the leaf and everything's focused on the leaf.
Naruto had a lot of wasted potential
@@kabirsingh5502 Nah I agree with the Kaguya portion but Naruto is INSANELY consistent. The series has little to no plot holes, the quality from arc to arc is hella consistent and well written, the main cast has crazy development, the exploration of themes and dynamics is the top 3 in shounen, it has one of the best deuteragonist in animanga, the best antagonist line up in all of shounen, etc. world building is definitely left to be desired tho
The common mistake within the Naruto fanbase is they thought The Sage of the Six Path and Ōtsosuki was an "asspull" when it was actually fact foreshadowed all this time since Six Path's name was mentioned in a couple of times.
I also find it interesting that when zetsu was shown in part 1, Madara's statue was seen behind him lol
one of the more underrated foreshadowings fr
subs over dubs though
some of the things arent really foreshadowing.. just repeating or story building
Why you use eng dubb, it is so bad. You should use original with subs.
we have to agree to disagree on that one
needs to be short form content. SHORTS. learn from your mistake.
That dub is Just awful.....
It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I personally think they got great dub VAs
For me the english dub is awesome, coming for a latinamerican
@lukasprovetti9057 Dub is great bro, I like the sub too but in Naruto I prefer dub. AOT and DS I prefer sub.. your just being lazy and following a crowd..
Pre putting this before I watch the video
Itachis plot twist was not forshadowes but a last minute retcon, kishi confirmed this
naaa u just said this as i texted, i forshadowed it
"he could easily kill me, so why doesnt he?" managed to, as by far the strongest person in the village teaming up with kisame who was kage level, not kill a single person spending a full day fighting konoha ninja, coincidentally showed up right after hiruzen died, he literally SMILED when naruto beat his clone in the kazekage rescue mission. it was strongly foreshadowed
@@AidenB1010 guy is the strongest for one, he literally made kakashi undergo 72 hours of torture which would realistically drive him off the deep end he cant return of had naruto writers even understood pyschology, he literally stated jiraya can beat them ( before kishi thought of new ms abilities mid shippuden which set off scaling in hindsight)
The clone scene is my point, in shippuden thats when he changed his mind about the twist, also it contradicts itself, he smiled at naruto, yet told sasuke to murder naruto lol, lets not forget he put sasuke under 513k repeat torture genjutsu stated by the author, did not know tsunade was there, and sasuke would have passed away had tsunade not magically been there, also ignoring the realistic scarring sasuke would have
All of this while ignoring a 7 year old post massacre sasuke somehow lived alone without ending himself like gaara tried to, sorry for the yap
1. guy wouldnt use 8 gates, with 7 hes weaker than itachi and at this point kisame 2. itachis done way worse with tsukuyomi, if he wanted to kill kakashi he would have as kakashi literally told us, even then we see amaterasu in this arc he still held back lethal moves 3. him stating jiraiya can beat them IS more foreshadowing, it was within about 15 chapters(i forget before or after) of orochimaru admitting not only inferiority but fear of itachi, and not long after that nerfed orochimaru 2v1s jiraiya and tsunade. it takes some sort of lack of critical thinking or just not having taken the effort to think at all to say jiraiya was ACTUALLY able to beat itachi ever at any point. 4. him not knowing tsunade would come doesnt change anything, kakashi and sasuke wouldve just taken longer to recover. itachis literally put sasuke under a WORSE genjutsu back when he was an elementary schooler and he recovered just fine(obviously only health wise, it effected him pretty greatly)
@@AidenB1010 1. Guy has no reason not to use 8 gates if his lively hood is under attack by akatski, he did not want to kill kakashi his sadistic nature would rather torture the copycat ninja and let them waste false hope he can protect them as you know kakashi was top 5 strongest at the time in the village,
you did good chain connections of powerscaling then made huge assumptions, for one they literally drugged jiraya before the fight and he still preformed good, orochimaru was sick and dying and wanted the sharingan, he also given his part 1 abilities had no way to beat itachi while jiraya could summon the frogs, and that tongue trap, and ye we also see itachi is suffering from using black flames in that same episode he escapes jiraya, and also tells kisame to chopp narutos legs off and hes saved CONVIENENTLY BY JIRAYA who itachi was suprised broke out the harem genjutsu, I did not even mention the sasuke orochimaru stuff that complicates things even more
Again it was stated sasuke would meet his ancestors had tsunade not came for plot bro 💀, and did u ignore what i said, itachi repeated that genjutsu 531k times, read that again, thats ABSURB OVERKILL, had the series understood basically psychology sasuke would be a vegetable lol, in the massacre he did genjutsu once not 5 hundred thousand, and it was a preview of what just happened
Another foreshadow. When we get introduced to Byakugan for the first time, Kakashi mentions about the sharingan being derived from the byakugan. And now we know how Sharingan came from Kaguya.
hmm. I never thought about it that way
You meant to say the "byakugan" came from the otsuki clan/kaguya's "Rinnegan".
@@AkumaClaps no thats not what I meant.