I think Questron's right on this one. If they're committed to this whole "two abilities, one cooldown" approach, then there needs to be some sort of reduced cooldown for dropping invis early. Otherwise you're just getting punished for being proactive and dynamic.
Yeah, she's done. Feels clunky and the essence of her character is gone. Of all the character changes/reworks this one legit feels like it should be reverted.
Fitzy has always been more proficient on picking off the enemy backline so the Sombra changes are conflicting to his play style. He heavily relies on Sombra's invisibility to gather information and terrorize the backline The previous Sombra changes could still be adapted to his play style, but with the recent changes, I won't be surprised if he'd have a hard time adjusting to it. It sucks that the identity of Sombra is basically gone now (a backline assassin that can gather information and direct teammates on dives and so on) but I do get how oppressive an invisible enemy with an interrupt ability can be.
Im glad im not the only one who felt like their sensitivity is off or weird but yeah they killed sombra and ram so ppl would buy wids skin and reins allmight skin
Maining Sombra since she’ve appeared, and this is the worst changes for her in my memory. Seems to me, i’m done with this game. Seriously. She literally never got that she deserves. Just because of gentle asses of some of gamers. Instead bunch of haters on both teams sides and doubtful status of dps, in spite of much benefit she could do even without kills. And they just nerf her only strong suits. Genius. Wake me up, when (if) they cancel this shit.
People don't understand the utility she brings. Matches have changed around just from switching to Sombra and disrupting their backline. It was literally what brought me back to playing this game after what? Season 2? Now I left again. I'll just do the same thing I have done with Blizzard products, go to a superior competitor, FF14 for WOW, POE for Diablo and hopefully Marvels for Overwatch.
She's definitely going to get more changes in the near future. But I'm completely fine with Sombra being nerfed out of existence for a season. Anything that makes my matches more enjoyable for a few weeks
I think Fitzy can manage this with sombra, I played as her and stayed by the team ( mostly on high ground) and it worked. I get why player complain but I think player are just used to her on easy mode by flanking, hiding and running away
@@ytcmbt2505 Questron seems pretty confident he can at the very least make it work, but even he thinks they'll need to have some sort of reduced cooldown if you drop invis early, otherwise the game just punishes you for being proactive by giving you an increased window of vulnerability.
@@JordanYeethat’s the worst change I’ve seen in this game, they take away perma invis which sure fine whatever but now if you aggressively go make a play like he tried against the Ashe at 7:30 then you just get screwed over. They give you opportunist like you’re supposed to use it but then when you try you just get left out to dry with no escape. it makes no sense
@@mnonodzilala8508 exactly! Like, I can see where Questron's coming from, and it'll be workable, sure, but there are so many changes in this rework that conflict with each other, that it's hard not to see it as a bad faith attempt that really just wants to be done with this character. This hasn't solved anything for new players' pain points. They're not gonna play like questron. Instead of sitting around doing nothing in invis, they're gonna sit around doing nothing behind cover.
@@JordanYee that was my first though exactly is that they’re just tired of people complaining so nerfed her but not in a viable way and know that now only the day one or sombra one tricks are gonna stick with her in this state. And bc there’s few of them they’d rather they complain than the other 95% of the player base.
So wid rework soon? It hasn't even been a week and wid is in every single game making the whole thing a hide and seek with her I was not a fan of Perma invis but if this nerf makes wid meta I'm all for a Sombra buff because hiding behind walls every single match ain't it
I just don't think FitzyHere cares about overWatch anymore, so he's not really trying. Fitzy hasn't played OW2 in months and instead been streaming "DeadLock". Even during this stream (1st day of new season), he stopped playing OW2 after like 5 games and switched back to "DeadLock".
@@eronmeldrum4207He’s not washed… he just realized that the game will never be what it once was, And that OW2 was and continues to be a sorry excuse of a sequel.
Aaaaaa hahahahhahahahah, sombra is so DONE, this is top 3 things they did right for OW… this hero should not have existed in the first place, i feel nothing for this hero and the people that played and still play this hero… they should make a different hero section called “only playable in gold 5” and Sombra would be the only one there :))))))))
theres a reason sombra has such a high skill ceiling. Perma invisibility is bad, i agree, and virus is so ass. however, invis for 5 seconds cannot do anything. What will you do when a widow dominates a map and shes being pocketed by a mercy? Unless youre a mobile tank or a support that can climb, you're not going to be able to kill her. You need people like sombra to punish people's positioning. It is a skill issue ( i dont mean that maliciously), if you cannot kill sombra, as she is rather easy to kill if you are above silver. You just need to be aware.
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I think Questron's right on this one. If they're committed to this whole "two abilities, one cooldown" approach, then there needs to be some sort of reduced cooldown for dropping invis early. Otherwise you're just getting punished for being proactive and dynamic.
Yeah, she's done. Feels clunky and the essence of her character is gone. Of all the character changes/reworks this one legit feels like it should be reverted.
Fitzy has always been more proficient on picking off the enemy backline so the Sombra changes are conflicting to his play style. He heavily relies on Sombra's invisibility to gather information and terrorize the backline The previous Sombra changes could still be adapted to his play style, but with the recent changes, I won't be surprised if he'd have a hard time adjusting to it.
It sucks that the identity of Sombra is basically gone now (a backline assassin that can gather information and direct teammates on dives and so on) but I do get how oppressive an invisible enemy with an interrupt ability can be.
true but an enemy widow shooting comfortably from the backline is oppressive as well 😭
that loser completely quit ow cause of the changes LOL. couldnt get to gm since ow2 came out. dude was carried by old sombra
I just want the Sombra we had pre S6 :(
pre virus sombra my beloved
@@EmoTheElephant Haha, yuuuuup, I miss hack being the main aspect to her damage buffs 😢
They just keep messing with her entire character and kit because the entire community complains about her😭she’s gone forever I fear
@@almightyotaku6615 I fear so, too
So fun fact, I dont know if anyone else has noticed but if you crouch when you come out of invis the voiceline doesnt play.
Thsnks for the information, I'll try that next time.
I noticed that too but at first I thought the voicelines just played and sometimes they didn’t
Since OW1 you know.
It happens normally... I didn't know that crouching make her never say something @@tkmasmr6075
Im glad im not the only one who felt like their sensitivity is off or weird but yeah they killed sombra and ram so ppl would buy wids skin and reins allmight skin
Rammatra is way better
damn, tht widow was working. if only there was a hero tht could, i cant even put in the energy to complain about a dead game
1:51 do you play with such a sensitivity of 2% on all the characters?
Sombra is annoying, but I thought they would just remove permanent invisibility not gut this character. She doesn’t feel fun to play anymore.
Maining Sombra since she’ve appeared, and this is the worst changes for her in my memory. Seems to me, i’m done with this game. Seriously. She literally never got that she deserves. Just because of gentle asses of some of gamers. Instead bunch of haters on both teams sides and doubtful status of dps, in spite of much benefit she could do even without kills. And they just nerf her only strong suits. Genius. Wake me up, when (if) they cancel this shit.
People don't understand the utility she brings. Matches have changed around just from switching to Sombra and disrupting their backline. It was literally what brought me back to playing this game after what? Season 2? Now I left again. I'll just do the same thing I have done with Blizzard products, go to a superior competitor, FF14 for WOW, POE for Diablo and hopefully Marvels for Overwatch.
She's definitely going to get more changes in the near future.
But I'm completely fine with Sombra being nerfed out of existence for a season. Anything that makes my matches more enjoyable for a few weeks
Bro just cause you don’t want to think about your games and not have to watch your back doesn’t make the game bad you just suck at gaming
Meh honestly i understand you, but i dont think this should happen to amy character
Prepare to get sniped all the time now. Sombra was manageable to deal with, especially compared to an unchecked widow
im so glad they nerfed her into the ground, it feels more enjoyable now but I'm sure the changes will be reverted
same i feel like my aim is worser after this update normaly i get 40precent accuracynbut now its like 25-35 they deff did sume to the sense
if they change her like this she should atleast have lower trans cooldown or uncloakable invis
They just killed the character
I never realized how zesty fitzy is
Fitzy is openly gay, he came out a few years ago.
@@undrtakr900 oh wow, i didn't know that
Gg sombra
I think Fitzy can manage this with sombra, I played as her and stayed by the team ( mostly on high ground) and it worked. I get why player complain but I think player are just used to her on easy mode by flanking, hiding and running away
Sombra Wizard found a playsttle that looks more fun and aggressive than this. Sombra is not dead, just waiting to be found.
fizzy always played very passive and used lots of invi, for questron for instance this change might be a net buff
@@ytcmbt2505 Questron seems pretty confident he can at the very least make it work, but even he thinks they'll need to have some sort of reduced cooldown if you drop invis early, otherwise the game just punishes you for being proactive by giving you an increased window of vulnerability.
@@JordanYeethat’s the worst change I’ve seen in this game, they take away perma invis which sure fine whatever but now if you aggressively go make a play like he tried against the Ashe at 7:30 then you just get screwed over. They give you opportunist like you’re supposed to use it but then when you try you just get left out to dry with no escape. it makes no sense
@@mnonodzilala8508 exactly! Like, I can see where Questron's coming from, and it'll be workable, sure, but there are so many changes in this rework that conflict with each other, that it's hard not to see it as a bad faith attempt that really just wants to be done with this character. This hasn't solved anything for new players' pain points. They're not gonna play like questron. Instead of sitting around doing nothing in invis, they're gonna sit around doing nothing behind cover.
@@JordanYee that was my first though exactly is that they’re just tired of people complaining so nerfed her but not in a viable way and know that now only the day one or sombra one tricks are gonna stick with her in this state. And bc there’s few of them they’d rather they complain than the other 95% of the player base.
Pretty bold to do your first game of the rework in comp.
So wid rework soon? It hasn't even been a week and wid is in every single game making the whole thing a hide and seek with her
I was not a fan of Perma invis but if this nerf makes wid meta I'm all for a Sombra buff because hiding behind walls every single match ain't it
I doubt he admit sombra is bad
delusional
Lol gutted
All they had to do is nerf trash heros like Ana and people like tanks wouldnt care about Sombra
14mins of washed OW player complaining about sens
I just don't think FitzyHere cares about overWatch anymore, so he's not really trying.
Fitzy hasn't played OW2 in months and instead been streaming "DeadLock". Even during this stream (1st day of new season), he stopped playing OW2 after like 5 games and switched back to "DeadLock".
@@undrtakr900 so yeah...washed
@@eronmeldrum4207sounds like deadlock is just the better game lol
@@eronmeldrum4207He’s not washed… he just realized that the game will never be what it once was, And that OW2 was and continues to be a sorry excuse of a sequel.
@@enano8579 I guess not liking the game makes his aim bad?
This show he don't got any skills lmao
Aaaaaa hahahahhahahahah, sombra is so DONE, this is top 3 things they did right for OW… this hero should not have existed in the first place, i feel nothing for this hero and the people that played and still play this hero… they should make a different hero section called “only playable in gold 5” and Sombra would be the only one there :))))))))
If you had a problem dealing with her then you’re just trash, sombras rework will get reverted and when it does , we will see who laughs last
Agreed, in a game where it is all about ability. Some invisible B that takes that away just sucks
Unfortunately for you it wont make u better at the game, u'll still stay in low piss
Cry you skill issue baby
theres a reason sombra has such a high skill ceiling. Perma invisibility is bad, i agree, and virus is so ass. however, invis for 5 seconds cannot do anything. What will you do when a widow dominates a map and shes being pocketed by a mercy? Unless youre a mobile tank or a support that can climb, you're not going to be able to kill her. You need people like sombra to punish people's positioning. It is a skill issue ( i dont mean that maliciously), if you cannot kill sombra, as she is rather easy to kill if you are above silver. You just need to be aware.