We don't find it profound because there are answers. We are the largest religion just like Jesus predicted in Matthew 13:33. We are taking over the world just like Jesus said we would.
@@gunstar168 You fear that which you don't understand, and there is a valid reason to be afraid - but its also an opportunity to wonder and aspire for greater things. You fear the truth of reality, and I don't blame you for letting that fear guide you.
True, but have you considered just having faith? Sure God has done a lot of bad things, countless have died in his name, and his believers are typically of a fascist mindset
I would love to hop on and discuss this video. We could even have a debate if you want. The thesis could be: Is The Christian God Evil? I will debate it on any channel you want with any moderator you want. Concerning the flood, I would encourage you to read Genesis 6:4 and go listen to MIchael Heiser. There is more going on than meets the eye. In short, angels had sex with women and created giant offspring. THey did so in order to pollute the gene pool so that the promise of Genesis 3:15 couldn't occur.That is why God flooded the earth, to kill the Nephilim. However, even if Genesis 6:4 did not exist, God has every right to kill sinners. We are all sinners (even babies). All of the genocide deals with God killing the Nephilim that somehow survived the flood (Probably through the blood of Ham's wife). Either way, even if none of what I just said is true, the wages of sin is death. If God kills someone, then they were sinners. Concerning "Free will", yea go read Romans 9. Biblical free will is much more complicated than the idiotic ideology of Libertarian Free Will.
You selectively don't believe the Bible that says "ALL flesh died" by the Flood in Genesis 7:21? Heiser was sometimes a self-absorbed kook (similar to this self-deluded atheist video maker). Angels don't have the ability to have sex according to JESUS in Mark 12:25. Book of Enoch can't be anything BUT a forgery in Enoch's name (even if it contains SOME truth among its fables), since it dates to thousands of years after Enoch left Earth. "Sons of God" is ALWAYS used as it is in John 1:12, yes, including in Genesis 6:4 and even in Job (for angels that trusted in Jesus are sons of God just as Christians that do are).
its good you are thinking about these things.....God is working in your life.... We all are going to die...good and bad...young and old... At least youre thinking and not so involved with worldly pursuits that you dont care......The Hound of Heaven is in your life!
God wiped out the entire world with a flood because he got ever so pissed with the people he made. He's going to wipe out the world again with fire pretty soon here. It is humanity which is evil, not God.
God didn't (and can't) make sin, and He expressly told people not to sin. That's why humanity is evil and not God, who still has mercy on murderous humanity for some reason (even to the extent that He painfully took the full judgment humanity is condemned with, in humanity's place).
This is a completely misunderstood perspective. God hardened Pharoah's heart by delivering him over to his desires. He allowed it to happen. And even if we assume yeah that one instance God hardened his heart then how can we judge one single event for trillions of people? If God intervenes once that means he doesn't care about the free will? There is something called the age of accountability and if someone dies below it, then they go to heaven. It is better for those children to go to heaven while they are still innocent as opposed to growing up into an evil place and becoming evil as a result of it. Before you make all these claims please actually read the scripture you're referring to because you're missing a lot of important information.
@@nikke36 the age of accountability varies for every person. It refers to the age when you actually understand the world and the consequences of your actions. When you actually understand good and evil and the natural world. The death of people is bad because human life is valuable. But God is the creator. He does something, that means it’s perfect because He is. It was His will to free the Israelites from Egypt so He sent plagues. Yes children died but think about how long Egypt had to turn away from their ways. Hundreds of years and they didn’t. I know God didn’t want to kill His creation. He loves us all. But sometimes the most loving thing is to save these children from hellfire. Only God can make that decision because he knows the future but we don’t. So we don’t get to kill babies. People complain God doesn’t intervene with evil but when He does then they call it immoral and evil. Make up your mind.
@@v3nomxxx961 He knew the outcome (if he is omniscient that is, you may correct me if that is not your view) so why'd he give the rest of the people chances and not those specific ones? Is there a specific moment second when you become aware enough? Morality isn't something you gain instantly. Also, I mean, is children dying *in general* bad?
@@nikke36 I did say children dying in general is bad. I can’t say a specific moment but once you understand what sin is like once you understand “Okay I have a choice to follow God or not.” I would say if probably begins in the teens for most people. 11 sometimes. And I’m not sure which other people you mean that he gave chances perhaps the previous generation? I can’t answer that because I don’t know exactly why only God Himself because he made that decision. I can assume it’s because he wanted to use Moses and that specific generation of people. Or, perhaps enough time had passed that He decided “Yeah they’ve had enough time to turn away and they haven’t.” I apologize for not being able to answer but that’s definitely a question for God.
your relationship with God ,and thus the process of understanding the bible, should be between YOU and GOD. No1 and nothing else. If you include others into this process you start to be completely misguided ,proven in the thing you say you believe the bible claims. Do you really believe snakes talked ? ppl walked on water ? water was turned into wine ? really ? Or is the tendency to take the Bible literally merely a belief installed by listening to other people's opinions about it and thus have nothing with yourself and your own reasoning at all ? The bible teaches you to trust yourself ,if you're gonna use tools like science and debates which have their basis in trusting others ,trusing the collective to understand the bible , if you're gonna use tools which are opposite to the message of the bible ,then all it will give you is an enormous load of confusion about it... seen clearly in your believe the Bible is supposed to be litteral AND the believers whom believe in talking snakes and God whiping out whole civilisations whom believe this because their church (collective/group) convinced them of this. Wanna take your question of God truly seriously ? Then make it COMPLETELY personal. No influence of others (including me).
Damn if I were still a christian I feel like I would find this pretty profound.
We don't find it profound because there are answers. We are the largest religion just like Jesus predicted in Matthew 13:33. We are taking over the world just like Jesus said we would.
@@TwitchyTheologian Christianity is actually on the downtrend, Islam is on the rise.
Now you find complete subjectivity (and the misery that necessarily follows "2 + 2 doesn't HAVE to equal 4") to be profound.
@@gunstar168 You fear that which you don't understand, and there is a valid reason to be afraid - but its also an opportunity to wonder and aspire for greater things.
You fear the truth of reality, and I don't blame you for letting that fear guide you.
True, but have you considered just having faith? Sure God has done a lot of bad things, countless have died in his name, and his believers are typically of a fascist mindset
I would love to hop on and discuss this video. We could even have a debate if you want. The thesis could be: Is The Christian God Evil? I will debate it on any channel you want with any moderator you want. Concerning the flood, I would encourage you to read Genesis 6:4 and go listen to MIchael Heiser. There is more going on than meets the eye. In short, angels had sex with women and created giant offspring. THey did so in order to pollute the gene pool so that the promise of Genesis 3:15 couldn't occur.That is why God flooded the earth, to kill the Nephilim. However, even if Genesis 6:4 did not exist, God has every right to kill sinners. We are all sinners (even babies). All of the genocide deals with God killing the Nephilim that somehow survived the flood (Probably through the blood of Ham's wife). Either way, even if none of what I just said is true, the wages of sin is death. If God kills someone, then they were sinners. Concerning "Free will", yea go read Romans 9. Biblical free will is much more complicated than the idiotic ideology of Libertarian Free Will.
You selectively don't believe the Bible that says "ALL flesh died" by the Flood in Genesis 7:21? Heiser was sometimes a self-absorbed kook (similar to this self-deluded atheist video maker). Angels don't have the ability to have sex according to JESUS in Mark 12:25. Book of Enoch can't be anything BUT a forgery in Enoch's name (even if it contains SOME truth among its fables), since it dates to thousands of years after Enoch left Earth. "Sons of God" is ALWAYS used as it is in John 1:12, yes, including in Genesis 6:4 and even in Job (for angels that trusted in Jesus are sons of God just as Christians that do are).
its good you are thinking about these things.....God is working in your life....
We all are going to die...good and bad...young and old...
At least youre thinking and not so involved with worldly pursuits that you dont care......The Hound of Heaven is in your life!
God wiped out the entire world with a flood because he got ever so pissed with the people he made. He's going to wipe out the world again with fire pretty soon here. It is humanity which is evil, not God.
God didn't (and can't) make sin, and He expressly told people not to sin. That's why humanity is evil and not God, who still has mercy on murderous humanity for some reason (even to the extent that He painfully took the full judgment humanity is condemned with, in humanity's place).
@@gunstar168 That mercy is only going to go so far. The Bible says God will wipe out the world with fire in the end times. Read Revelation.
@@gunstar168friendly fire will not be tolerated.
This is a completely misunderstood perspective. God hardened Pharoah's heart by delivering him over to his desires. He allowed it to happen. And even if we assume yeah that one instance God hardened his heart then how can we judge one single event for trillions of people? If God intervenes once that means he doesn't care about the free will? There is something called the age of accountability and if someone dies below it, then they go to heaven. It is better for those children to go to heaven while they are still innocent as opposed to growing up into an evil place and becoming evil as a result of it. Before you make all these claims please actually read the scripture you're referring to because you're missing a lot of important information.
Is the death of children bad? And what age is the age of accountability?
@@nikke36 the age of accountability varies for every person. It refers to the age when you actually understand the world and the consequences of your actions. When you actually understand good and evil and the natural world. The death of people is bad because human life is valuable. But God is the creator. He does something, that means it’s perfect because He is. It was His will to free the Israelites from Egypt so He sent plagues. Yes children died but think about how long Egypt had to turn away from their ways. Hundreds of years and they didn’t. I know God didn’t want to kill His creation. He loves us all. But sometimes the most loving thing is to save these children from hellfire. Only God can make that decision because he knows the future but we don’t. So we don’t get to kill babies. People complain God doesn’t intervene with evil but when He does then they call it immoral and evil. Make up your mind.
@@v3nomxxx961 He knew the outcome (if he is omniscient that is, you may correct me if that is not your view) so why'd he give the rest of the people chances and not those specific ones? Is there a specific moment second when you become aware enough? Morality isn't something you gain instantly. Also, I mean, is children dying *in general* bad?
@@nikke36 I did say children dying in general is bad. I can’t say a specific moment but once you understand what sin is like once you understand “Okay I have a choice to follow God or not.” I would say if probably begins in the teens for most people. 11 sometimes. And I’m not sure which other people you mean that he gave chances perhaps the previous generation? I can’t answer that because I don’t know exactly why only God Himself because he made that decision. I can assume it’s because he wanted to use Moses and that specific generation of people. Or, perhaps enough time had passed that He decided “Yeah they’ve had enough time to turn away and they haven’t.” I apologize for not being able to answer but that’s definitely a question for God.
@@v3nomxxx961 Why hasn't he answered it?
your relationship with God ,and thus the process of understanding the bible, should be between YOU and GOD. No1 and nothing else. If you include others into this process you start to be completely misguided ,proven in the thing you say you believe the bible claims.
Do you really believe snakes talked ? ppl walked on water ? water was turned into wine ? really ? Or is the tendency to take the Bible literally merely a belief installed by listening to other people's opinions about it and thus have nothing with yourself and your own reasoning at all ?
The bible teaches you to trust yourself ,if you're gonna use tools like science and debates which have their basis in trusting others ,trusing the collective to understand the bible , if you're gonna use tools which are opposite to the message of the bible ,then all it will give you is an enormous load of confusion about it... seen clearly in your believe the Bible is supposed to be litteral AND the believers whom believe in talking snakes and God whiping out whole civilisations whom believe this because their church (collective/group) convinced them of this.
Wanna take your question of God truly seriously ? Then make it COMPLETELY personal. No influence of others (including me).
Especially you. Because nothing in the Bible is a lesson on "trusting yourself" lol.
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