Facts, turret early game is a goddamn nightmare to play around, if a Vulcan is leveling it, I HAVE to just move around it because killing it is too much work for him to just slap it down on my head again.
@Weak3n supposedly Vulcan’s turret scales with health from 220/300/380/460/540 with prots of 5/15/25/35/45 and damage of 52/86/121/155/190 + 46% of ur magical damage (if marked by the 1). Idk if the numbers are 100% accurate but if they are it makes sense
A cool idea would be after these videos to then play a game with the exact same God, and leveling strategies they use and give your opinion on how it feels versus what we saw. Almost how you did that Ability Artemis
i used to only play joust with my fiance, now i refuse to play anything other than conquest. i've noticed a huge difference in my skill cap on gods, mechanics and timing. Study hard and grind harder.
I played Vulcan main for 10 years and can tell you if you max your 2 you just have to have real high knowledge of everything else and where to place turrets so it’s dangerous for other gods to come close to. It’s cat and mouse for them especially if you put a turret preemptively and have another ready for cd. You can meatball check anyone who comes to it. You also gotta position yourself near safety like towers or team mates in case you get caught off cd on your turret. And if you’re going cd I’d def look to spam ult off cd, you never know what actives you might trade even if you don’t get damage. W cd it’s up fast. But if you’re an accurate Vulcan, raw power pen will do you better overall. Haven’t played smite in years and still love it! Crazy how you don’t get crippled now!
Weaken wondered if that kind of build works on Janus, and as someone who plays a lot of Janus it totally does. It’s the build I usually go and that MS plus the portals and the bonus MS from portals means you can literally never die if you play smart. Playing Janus with that build is what I do when I want to make sure my team wins because it’s been so successful for me. I go that kind of build on both these gods and it’s always worked well. I’m glad I’m getting a little validation seeing that the top Vulcan does the same kind of build I’ve been doing lol. I’ve always loved Vulcan, and Janus. Unless I misunderstood and if he meant if that build on Vulcan would work AGAINST Janus.
Being fair in conquest most Janus players can not die even if they aren't smart lol. Mages constantly being babied and having a bit too many overclocked items makes gods like him pretty busted. Full pen, good movement, easy to build max cooldown, insane damage with a single ability and ult. Gods a bit busted in conquest as long as you aren't using your portal aggressively
i love vulcan and skadi. mainly because they have little buddies you can summon. ive gotten really decent with skadi to the point where only things that scare me are fenrir and hou yi and awilix. but i need alot more practice with vulcan.
I play Vulcan much like this. max turret, I go full cooldown and movement speed and just spam turrets and meatballs. blink is fun if they don't have someone trying to lock you down
When you see a player doing a wonky build, they either are bad, or they are a 10 diamond star main and think about building the character completely differently than you through experience with the god lol
@@childpeanut5095 smiteguru is the best of those build sites, but one must recognize that the pros are playing a completely different game than your average ranked experience and their build choices reflect certain things that happen in those games that don't really happen in the clusterf**k you and I play. Ripping pro builds is a good place to start if you don't have an idea in mind. But items allow you to customize a god to tweak and fit your preferred play style. If it's a god you know what to do with, craft your own builds. But please do the research first to understand why what's good is considered good and why what's bad is bad. That way if you build something weird, you at least know WHY it's weird and you are doing it anyway for a very specific reason. It should never be just I'm gonna try glad shield full defense on agni with warriors axe, just cuz it's lulzy. Have a legit well thought out reason lol
Funny thing is, I ran shmovement speed Vulcan in Assault one and was having a blast. Charon's, Gem, Chronos, Doom, Myriddin's, magus. Level 15 and 5/0, we had a horrible engage on their tier 2 from our inting Osiris, into a teamwipe. I killed 2 of them and ran from their first tower, all the way to their phoenix while being chased by their team and died to phoenix. I only had Charon's and my passive for that too.
after they nerfed Vulcan's 1 a lot of players started maxing turret first, or at least that i've seen. My usual route anymore, also I have zero clue how Vulcan's CDs still haven't been nerfed
"The patch that killed him was the one where they removed power of all the items" Can we talk about the fact that the "nerfening" patch lasted like a month and now everyone does insane damage with max cooldown?
Mages lost 300-400 power on all builds. Before this patched you could 1 shot a backliner at 6 items. Now you cannot. Therefore making a full damage build not very good on him because the payoff is not as good. That patch most definitely made Vulcan a lot worse.
I’ve always maxed the turret first 😂 ever since I started playing smite back in line 2016. Vulcan just merks peoples health. You hit them with your one and let your turret do the work. Easy work.
25:36 I play janus a lot and while you definitely zoom, i find you dont need it. His 3 already gives him 20-40% ms, which combined with his insane portal movement is plenty enough.I usually go doom orb at some point but since he already gets 20% pen from abilities its hard to justify overcapping to buy doom and charons, especially since myrddin is practically a must buy
this is great. i am very new to smite still but ive learned a vast majority of all the heroes but not all yet. and i am happy to say i knew the turret had more health cause i figured it out when i played vulcan in bot games lol... and i actually as well always maxxed it out first in my games going forward haha
I like how he's explaining a lot of details, but I wish weak3n wouldn't speak over him during it. Would be nice if there were subtitles for various rank 1 players in case he does speak over them accidentally
i used to play my mages like this and got flamed literally everytime. this stuff goes also crazy on morgan and imo best on Hera. you get so fast with the shield u can literally outrun assasins like loki even in invis.
does maxing turret still apply for arena? i don't play conquest. arena is usually fast paced. i figure for how open the area is and leveling + gold that it may not apply here
It really doesn't tell you that the hp increases when you level the turret up? I thought i remembered it telling you that before. I've been playing since the beta on Xbox.
I’ve always maxed turret first. It’s the freest damage in the game. Get a little cool down it’s almost never not on the map with the opportunity to shred anybody walking through
Funnily when I started playing before watching any videos I maxed turret first because it was an aimbot and did so much damage 😂 then videos always saying about clear abilities etc 😂 my noob instincts are validated!
I have a proposal, a reasonable compromise to aid the smite community with the smite 2 controversy. ■ 2 to 3 skins [Minimum] be transferred PER god assimilated into smite 2 REGARDLESS of season. ●This is perfectly feasible and shouldn't hinder a speedy game progression. This also gives players a chance to have their favorite skin..potentially; also gives gods skins so they aren't left nude and without favored skins. (The skin's exist, it will take FAR less time to recreate something with a preexisting template rather than something that never did) ■ An eventual Legacy skin event (post official launch) where skins begin to cycle back into the game for EVERY god..not just the poster children/favorites. ● Legacy currency may be used to purchase Legacy skins ENTIRELY. This would give Legacy currency more value; an up to 50% discount on future skins and up to 100% discount on Legacy skins ■■■■■ PLEASE kindle this flame of hope; together we may make a difference, but it requires Teamwork as does any smite match. ■■■■■■
hes good and hes knowledge seems to be top but Id like to see a top vulcan that plays a little bit more agresive this guy never goes for an ability hhe migth miss just plays it safe all the time not saying that doesnt make him the top vulcan but its def not the most entertaining way of playing to watch maybe it is cause he knows theres gonna be a video of it and want it to play it a little bit more safe
Turret is the best value to Max first.
Because, at mid game, the hp becomes one hit anyway.
But the early game it's an actual tank.
Facts, turret early game is a goddamn nightmare to play around, if a Vulcan is leveling it, I HAVE to just move around it because killing it is too much work for him to just slap it down on my head again.
Ya didn't know that? I could always tell when they max turret because it's a literal brick early
Literally
deadass, the turret is abysmal to play against
Yeah when playing against vulcan solo its the worst as a warrior
Mages in solo are aids to play against in general@@InglouriousFrogs
@Weak3n supposedly Vulcan’s turret scales with health from 220/300/380/460/540 with prots of 5/15/25/35/45 and damage of 52/86/121/155/190 + 46% of ur magical damage (if marked by the 1). Idk if the numbers are 100% accurate but if they are it makes sense
The Fafnir de-transforming and dying to the gold fury got me
Every Vulcan main maxes turret first. I’ve been waiting for this. He’s my favorite god highest I peaked on the leaderboard was number 33 this season.
A cool idea would be after these videos to then play a game with the exact same God, and leveling strategies they use and give your opinion on how it feels versus what we saw. Almost how you did that Ability Artemis
That would be awesome!
This is a good idea for him to make monetized videos
I've always wanted to play conquest but it's super intimidating 😅 glad I found your channel going to cram like I'm going for a doctorate
Huge kudos for admitting that. I was that way for a long time too
i used to only play joust with my fiance, now i refuse to play anything other than conquest. i've noticed a huge difference in my skill cap on gods, mechanics and timing. Study hard and grind harder.
@@jaradrichardsC137I was a true arena warrior in smite early days 🤣 i hated conquest
I played Vulcan main for 10 years and can tell you if you max your 2 you just have to have real high knowledge of everything else and where to place turrets so it’s dangerous for other gods to come close to. It’s cat and mouse for them especially if you put a turret preemptively and have another ready for cd. You can meatball check anyone who comes to it. You also gotta position yourself near safety like towers or team mates in case you get caught off cd on your turret. And if you’re going cd I’d def look to spam ult off cd, you never know what actives you might trade even if you don’t get damage. W cd it’s up fast. But if you’re an accurate Vulcan, raw power pen will do you better overall. Haven’t played smite in years and still love it! Crazy how you don’t get crippled now!
I love gaming terminology such as “meatball check” 😂
Weaken wondered if that kind of build works on Janus, and as someone who plays a lot of Janus it totally does. It’s the build I usually go and that MS plus the portals and the bonus MS from portals means you can literally never die if you play smart. Playing Janus with that build is what I do when I want to make sure my team wins because it’s been so successful for me. I go that kind of build on both these gods and it’s always worked well. I’m glad I’m getting a little validation seeing that the top Vulcan does the same kind of build I’ve been doing lol. I’ve always loved Vulcan, and Janus.
Unless I misunderstood and if he meant if that build on Vulcan would work AGAINST Janus.
Being fair in conquest most Janus players can not die even if they aren't smart lol. Mages constantly being babied and having a bit too many overclocked items makes gods like him pretty busted. Full pen, good movement, easy to build max cooldown, insane damage with a single ability and ult. Gods a bit busted in conquest as long as you aren't using your portal aggressively
WOO BRING THE #1 VIDS BACK. Seriously these are so entertaining to me for some reason
i love vulcan and skadi. mainly because they have little buddies you can summon. ive gotten really decent with skadi to the point where only things that scare me are fenrir and hou yi and awilix. but i need alot more practice with vulcan.
I play Vulcan much like this. max turret, I go full cooldown and movement speed and just spam turrets and meatballs. blink is fun if they don't have someone trying to lock you down
Movement speed on mages is an hugely underrated stat
Vulcans my favorite mage and agreed movement power items are his best ones but I never thought of leveling turret first. Seems pretty fun lol.
When you see a player doing a wonky build, they either are bad, or they are a 10 diamond star main and think about building the character completely differently than you through experience with the god lol
Smiteguru ftw 😂 i still have no idea how to build after God knows how many hours
@@childpeanut5095 smiteguru is the best of those build sites, but one must recognize that the pros are playing a completely different game than your average ranked experience and their build choices reflect certain things that happen in those games that don't really happen in the clusterf**k you and I play. Ripping pro builds is a good place to start if you don't have an idea in mind. But items allow you to customize a god to tweak and fit your preferred play style. If it's a god you know what to do with, craft your own builds. But please do the research first to understand why what's good is considered good and why what's bad is bad. That way if you build something weird, you at least know WHY it's weird and you are doing it anyway for a very specific reason. It should never be just I'm gonna try glad shield full defense on agni with warriors axe, just cuz it's lulzy. Have a legit well thought out reason lol
Funny thing is, I ran shmovement speed Vulcan in Assault one and was having a blast. Charon's, Gem, Chronos, Doom, Myriddin's, magus.
Level 15 and 5/0, we had a horrible engage on their tier 2 from our inting Osiris, into a teamwipe. I killed 2 of them and ran from their first tower, all the way to their phoenix while being chased by their team and died to phoenix. I only had Charon's and my passive for that too.
after they nerfed Vulcan's 1 a lot of players started maxing turret first, or at least that i've seen. My usual route anymore, also I have zero clue how Vulcan's CDs still haven't been nerfed
"The patch that killed him was the one where they removed power of all the items"
Can we talk about the fact that the "nerfening" patch lasted like a month and now everyone does insane damage with max cooldown?
Mages lost 300-400 power on all builds. Before this patched you could 1 shot a backliner at 6 items. Now you cannot. Therefore making a full damage build not very good on him because the payoff is not as good. That patch most definitely made Vulcan a lot worse.
Why was his video quality so bad the gameplay would freeze every once in a while when they were chasing that Janus when it portaled itself
I’ve always maxed the turret first 😂 ever since I started playing smite back in line 2016. Vulcan just merks peoples health. You hit them with your one and let your turret do the work. Easy work.
Man when he was a guardian I use to play Vulcan all day in solo.
Broooo you just brought back some ancient memories. I totally forgot how he was before the rework
25:36 I play janus a lot and while you definitely zoom, i find you dont need it. His 3 already gives him 20-40% ms, which combined with his insane portal movement is plenty enough.I usually go doom orb at some point but since he already gets 20% pen from abilities its hard to justify overcapping to buy doom and charons, especially since myrddin is practically a must buy
Shouldn't be buying charons on Janus anyway. You don't need the pen or MS from it. It doesn't have anything else to offer.
this is great. i am very new to smite still but ive learned a vast majority of all the heroes but not all yet. and i am happy to say i knew the turret had more health cause i figured it out when i played vulcan in bot games lol... and i actually as well always maxxed it out first in my games going forward haha
Wait... I thought everyone knew it got more health as you leveled it, I've always leveled it first for that reason.
I thought everyone knew that about Vulcan's turret. Maybe just something more common to notice in Assault
You touched up on franchising, and you’re right.
Money not being enough offered, what’s being told to expected
Franchise in your words ‘stink’
I was rank 1 Hun Batz in season 4 or 5 in gold/plat and I can confirm there were games that looked like I was a potato
I didn't learn anything new. I thought it was standard for all Vulcan players to max turrets first, it just makes perfect sense to do so.
I like how he's explaining a lot of details, but I wish weak3n wouldn't speak over him during it. Would be nice if there were subtitles for various rank 1 players in case he does speak over them accidentally
I’m so happy someone else maxes the turret first. I thought I was weird
i used to play my mages like this and got flamed literally everytime. this stuff goes also crazy on morgan and imo best on Hera. you get so fast with the shield u can literally outrun assasins like loki even in invis.
does maxing turret still apply for arena? i don't play conquest. arena is usually fast paced. i figure for how open the area is and leveling + gold that it may not apply here
Yes I still do, mostly to hold minions back early, allowing to focus on disrupting and attacking enemy players.
It really doesn't tell you that the hp increases when you level the turret up? I thought i remembered it telling you that before. I've been playing since the beta on Xbox.
Bro this strat is fire trust turret is so good for poke especially early
How much damage did that Janus have?
This fr might make me play move speed on other gods.
the turret goes from 220 to 540 hp and has 5-45 prots
leveling up a skill does not update the placed/fired one
this guy had a great explanation
Fun fact, odin 3 can speed up the turrets fire rate
He's always been good lol Vulcan main 👌
how do people not know lvl the turret give it more HP?
Bro weak3n knew 99% of the info he gave but nice of him for giving him all his knowledge
The knowledge was mostly for chat I’m sure
I’ve always maxed turret first. It’s the freest damage in the game. Get a little cool down it’s almost never not on the map with the opportunity to shred anybody walking through
It's so funny when I get kills and I'm like wtf? Oh he tried to get away and walked by my turret lol
Been doing that for years with right build..
I can’t find a game for months on this game
Funnily when I started playing before watching any videos I maxed turret first because it was an aimbot and did so much damage 😂 then videos always saying about clear abilities etc 😂 my noob instincts are validated!
I'm not watching just yet, but I've always maxed the turret first. I suck so it's honestly the most bang for my buck 😅
More ranked 1s please
My #1 chang'e video coming soon
Hes that surprised over someone maxing turret first? Like why? It slaps so hard who wouldnt?
I have a proposal, a reasonable compromise to aid the smite community with the smite 2 controversy.
■ 2 to 3 skins [Minimum] be transferred PER god assimilated into smite 2 REGARDLESS of season.
●This is perfectly feasible and shouldn't hinder a speedy game progression. This also gives players a chance to have their favorite skin..potentially; also gives gods skins so they aren't left nude and without favored skins. (The skin's exist, it will take FAR less time to recreate something with a preexisting template rather than something that never did)
■ An eventual Legacy skin event (post official launch) where skins begin to cycle back into the game for EVERY god..not just the poster children/favorites.
● Legacy currency may be used to purchase Legacy skins ENTIRELY. This would give Legacy currency more value; an up to 50% discount on future skins and up to 100% discount on Legacy skins
■■■■■ PLEASE kindle this flame of hope; together we may make a difference, but it requires Teamwork as does any smite match. ■■■■■■
I thought everyone leveled turret first??? 😂
#1 zeus when
Can't see his build most of video
How do people have time to have multiple max MMR accounts lmao
I’ve always maxed his turret first
yes
Love this content
Hey you made a GOOD JOB
Turret fux hard
Day forty one of asking for heimdallr ability damage build game video
hes good and hes knowledge seems to be top but Id like to see a top vulcan that plays a little bit more agresive this guy never goes for an ability hhe migth miss just plays it safe all the time not saying that doesnt make him the top vulcan but its def not the most entertaining way of playing to watch
maybe it is cause he knows theres gonna be a video of it and want it to play it a little bit more safe
orange peel
I always max it first
Everyone in the comments pretending they max the turret first 😅
He jus like me
Hi
5 minutes into the video and still no idea who this guy actually is
2nd
second i guess
First