Mormon Religion in a nutshell - John MacArthur
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- John MacArthur - Mormon Religion in a nutshell.
John MacArthur explains the core differences between traditional Bible-based Christianity and the Mormon religion.
Full questions and answers video here: • Duncan, MacArthur, and...
Jesus did it all.
All to Him I owe.
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.
A most beautiful hymn, Brother.
“Jesus paid it all.
All to Him I owe.
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow.”
Jesus is the devil
Repent accept jahovah and do good works
AMEN !! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Satan loves you
Galatians 1:8 “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.”
But how do you know what Paul preached? You do realize that the Bible you read has been changed many times over since Paul wrote Galatians, right?
@@jasonmerrell1 If you could present any evidence of that, that would be astounding!
@@jasonmerrell1 The Holy Spirit guide’s the believer. God is the same he was thousands of year’s ago. That is why these things are called Faith. You do not see yet you believe.
@@leewilson77: "It's totally coherent with itself"
Here are a few places where it is not:
-Matthew 9:18 says Jairus' daughter had just died when he came to Jesus for help. In Mark 5:22, it says she was near death.
-2 Kings 24:8 says Jehoiachin was 18 when he became king. 2 Chronicles 36:9 says he was 8 (except in translations where the disagreement was corrected).
-Matthew 12:30 says "He that is not with me is against me", but Mark 9:40 says "he that is not against us is for us".
-1 Samuel 15:11 says God indicated "I regret that I have made Saul king", and 1 Samuel 15:35 says "the LORD regretted that He had made Saul king over Israel", but 1 Samuel 15:27 says that God "is not a man, that He should change His mind", as does Numbers 23:19.
-1 Chronicles 21:1 says Satan tempted David to order a census of his people, but in 2 Samuel 24:1, it says God is the one who tempted David to do it.
Clearly, alterations have been made to the text: some through careless transcribing (where parts of the text were missed or miscopied) or through the intentional additions of uninspired interpolations. It's not correct to claim the Bible is "totally coherent with itself", and doing so just hands ammunition over to atheists looking to destroy people's faith. It's far better to recognize that the Bible is mostly coherent with itself with amazing intricacy while recognizing that some alterations have been made to the text, than it is to fallaciously claim the Bible as it exists today is totally inerrant and entirely consistent.
since mormons teach christianity ... it does not apply to mormons.
but speaking of teaching another gospel ... protestants removed some books from the bible ... so they are teaching another gospel.
Uncanny how similar the prophet and teachings of Mormons and Muslims are. I’m an exmuslim rescued by Jesus Christ. John 14:6!!! ✝️
I'm glad to hear you found Jesus. Praise God, brother!
God bless you.
That's interesting. From your perspective, what is similar?
@@chrisp9500 Both Islam and Mormonism offer amazing s-x for the men. Women are just objects.
They both have an extra book.
Both founder's were visited by an 'angel.'
@@chrisp9500 . A false god.
Both Muslims and Mormons profess belief in the God of Scripture. However, their gods stand in stark contrast to Yahweh, the one true and living God.
Islam’s god, Allah, is monolithic, impersonal, unknowable, and unapproachable. He is the author of both good and evil and fatalistically determines all things.
Mormons worship Elohim, or “Heavenly Father,” as the god of this world. Once a man, he attained deity, as did his first-born spirit child Jesus (Jehovah). Mormons believe there are many gods and many worlds and that men may themselves become gods one day.
2. A false prophet.
Muhammad emerged in the 7th century claiming visitations from the angel Gabriel, who informed him that Jews and Christians had corrupted the Scriptures and abandoned true monotheism. Thus, Allah chose Muhammad as the “Seal of the Prophets,” the last of 124,000 prophets sent to show people the right path.
Twelve centuries later, Joseph Smith claimed God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared to him, tapping this 14-year-old boy as the one who would reclaim true Christianity.
3. A false purpose.
The goal of Islam is to subjugate the world and then rule it according to Islamic law. Muhammad claimed he was restoring true monotheism, which superseded both Judaism and Christianity. When the Jews of Medina rejected him as the last of the Old Testament prophets, he conquered their villages, plundered their goods, took their wives as slaves, and on one occasion directed the slaughter of several hundred Jews in a single day.
Joseph Smith claimed his calling was to restore true Christianity, which had fallen into complete apostasy after the death of the apostles. When rejected as a true prophet, Smith was far less bloody than Muhammad but equally offended. He ordered the destruction of a newspaper that criticized him, which led to his arrest and death in a jailhouse shootout.
4. False scriptures.
For 23 years, Muhammad claimed to receive revelations from Allah through Gabriel. He committed these words to memory and shared them with his followers, who wrote them down. After his death they were gathered into the Qur’an.
Interestingly, after his first alleged visit from Gabriel, the terrified prophet believed a jinn (evil spirit) had visited him, and on one occasion he admitted receiving a Qur’anic text from the Devil. These “Satanic verses” subsequently were removed.
Joseph Smith also claimed to receive divine revelations. In addition to the Book of Mormon, which he “translated” via peep stones called “Urim” and “Thummim,” Smith and his colleagues produced Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.
5. False doctrines.
Islam professes many beliefs that are contrary to the Word of God, among them: That to worship a triune God is polytheism; that Jesus is not the Son of God or the Savior of the world; that Jesus did not die on the cross or rise from the dead; and that salvation comes through a combination of human effort and Allah’s predestination.
Mormonism, while claiming to be restored Christianity, teaches many doctrines foreign to the Holy Scriptures: That every person and every god has always existed, making humans of the same nature as the god of this world (Elohim); that Jesus earned godhood in pre-mortal life; that His finished work on the cross secured resurrection for us, not forgiveness of sins; and that godhood is attainable.
6. False hope.
Since salvation in both Islam and Mormonism is based on human effort, no Muslim or Mormon can know with certainty that he or she is eternally secure. Life is to be lived in the hope of pleasing a god who requires our works in exchange for his acceptance.
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What a contrast to the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which God sends His Son to die on a cross and rise from the dead, paying our sin debt and extending to us forgiveness of sins and everlasting life by His grace through faith.
Satan may continue to spawn new religions, but Jesus tells us that the false prophets who lead them may be known by their “fruits” - that is, their unbiblical lifestyles and false teachings (Matt. 7:15-23).
I was raised Mormon and at the age of 49 had an encounter with the Holy spirit and came to know Jesus Christ and left the Mormon Church. I was never raised knowing Jesus only man made rules. I thank God very day for saving me and opening my eyes.
oh, JFC.... what did you smoke, sweetie ? now.. churchCult order.. back to the kitchen, be barefooted, whistle when the corn bread is ready
I was just months shy of 48. After a lifetime of family friends and culture it was like a death, but ever so worth it to be born again.
@@gdhhayes2129congrats on your salvation ❤
If you didnt learn about Jesus, you never went to church. I really hate liars. If you had a true bad experience thats one thing. But me now 44 having been in church and having been a teacher, I know your story is just so crazy false. Its okay to not like a religion, but deception is nasty.
@@gdhhayes2129Do you know what born again even means? What if I told you I had a born again moment as a Mormon? And am still Mormon. Let me know what "born again" actually means. I hear it a lot and its always from people from various religions. Why is it that its not just people like you, but many kinds of people? Let me know your thoughts.
JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND LIFE 🙏 ❤️
The main harm and danger caused by the man-made Bible and the man-made Quran is, that even though they contain man-made wisdom, they also contain man-made errors that are claimed to be the word of their god.
By that, they expect the reality to adjust to those errors and not vice versa.
Thats very harmful, especially as those man-made and “godly claimed” errors include topics like e.g. astronomy, evolution, biology and homosexuality.
Yes, and he doesn't necessarily care what religion you are . Praise the Lord
@@alanbailey5621 Now thats interesting.
Me as a Deist would think like that, that god dosnt care what you believe in.
But didnt Jesus say ONLY through him is the way?
I find that a crazy message but I think he said that.
@@seekerhonest Jesus paid the price and he has the right to decide who shares in his kingdom.
@@seekerhonest It's simple, Jesus paid the price and he has the right to decide who will share in his kingdom. Not religious dogma !
lol this was not Mormonism in a nutshell
Not even close!
This dude has no clue who or what people or the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints really believe. He is so full of half truths &mis information it’s very pathetic.
I’ve been studying Mormonism for 15 years. John is speaking truth
@@jimbanton3820 The sad thing is that you do not know the truth when you hear it because you have been indoctrinated by the untruth for so long that you have come to believe it to be the truth. If only you could come away from the brainwashing, you would see that Mr. MacArthur is speaking the truth. So often the only way one can undo this kind of washing is to have some counselling so then they have a true reference point to start from. Why you do not have a Peace about where you will spend your life after death is because you will NEVER know if you have done enough, and you can only find that out after you die, then it IS too late. You see the True Christian KNOWS exactly where they will be, and it will be with the same God as the Bible tells us about because it is God Himself who gave us His Word the Bible. We as Christians do not wish to make you feel bad but we say things seeming like we are being harsh and don't care but look to the Bible how Jesus was He did not pull any punches, he flipped those Tables. Why not? because we as humans don't listen to the soft-spoken words to often, we have to be smacked alongside of our head to get our attention sometimes but we do that because we want so badly for the Mormon people to find to truth so they too can be a True Christian.
@@joenelson5819 I've been a member of the church for 40 years and a church leader for 20 years. He is certainly not speaking the truth. Not to mention how disrespectfully he speaks about the faith of others. Sad that someone who considers himself an authority on Christianity would speak in such an un-Christianlike way.
I am an ex-Mormon saved by GRACE! I am forgiven by the sinless Blood of the Lamb of God thru Jesus the Messiah
Praise God Tammy!
You are as a Latter-day Saint as well, only Jesus Christ can forgive any of us of our sins, no bishop, no Catholic priest, no evangelical preacher, just Christ. Jesus Christ has appeared to several men in our day, they have all testified of this, and has restored his gospel and church in our day.
@@MrArtist7777
Latter Day Saints don't have salvation, the Holy Spirit or Jesus. They believe in false gods and worship themselves and a religion. Change my mind.
Amen and Amen. Glory to the living God🙏
@@MrArtist7777 You were doing so well in that no priest, pope or church can forgive sins but then made mistake with Jesus. He never said worship me and is a human prophet like all those that came before him. God knew people like you will worship Jesus because of the Virgin birth and the miracles. Worship God and not his prophets
I have never heard so many half-truths in my life regarding a religion. It is obvious you hate members of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints to bear such false witness. No wonder I've encountered so many evangelicals who have treated me with disdain. I don't think the Jesus you believe in would be pleased with your calumny.
I encourage all people to read Romans frequently.
And read Hebrews. Read Hebrews because you will enter into a debate with Jews.
@@williampaz2092, I have no beef with Jewish people. I would encourage all people to read Psalms 22 and Isaiah 9
Romans has always seemed like an evil passage to me - I can do what I like with you because I created you, so suck it up, buttercup.
John 14:15 & 21; this effectively tells the reader that the way to salvation is through the law, and ‘all of it’; no room to cherry pick.
They’ll say “But that was the OT,” and you refer them to Matthew 5:17-18: “I come not to change the law...not a jot or a tittle.”
Then go to Exodus 21:20 (beating a slave), Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.
Deuteronomy 22:21 Hymen not breaking? Daniel 6:24 wives and children? and Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (stoning your errant child).
Under John 14 they must honour all these commandments. Psalm 137:9 killing infants. Matthew 10:34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Sounds like a terrrible moral code to live by.
@@harroldhenderson wondering if your understanding of scripture is that bad, or that dishonest. I’m leaning dishonest lol
I was a Mormon, I went on a mission for two years. I did the Mormon thing for 50 years. I am a Christian now
I asked God to forgive for my sins. I love Jesus Christ Our Savior and Redeemer. I believe in grace of God.
Why do I not see any Mormon responses to this? Could it be that they are just too Proud to say, they believe that they can only get the grace by doing works. Grace by works is such an Oxymoron, GRACE cannot be Grace if it can only be achieved by works. Grace is given by God Freely but only to those that put their trust and belief in Him (to those who will REST on His Word the Bible). Not the people who believe they can only get it by doing good works.
I’m sorry that you spent 50+ years attending the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and never felt you were a true Christian. I love being a member of Jesus Christs church. I know he loves you and me and suffered for mine and your sins. I know he lives again. And because of his atonement and saving grace you and I will be able to live again because of him. May you feel love, peace and joy this Easter season.
I too served a LDS mission in the late '70s and became disenfranchised during my 2-year mission as I felt the only thing that I was doing was tracking numbers and by numbers I mean how many people I met with how many Mormon discussions I taught investigators and tallied all those up and sent them off to church headquarters so they could calculate future earnings from tithing and that stuck with me for a very long time until I just grew more and more uncomfortable with doctrine and inconsistencies and a very suspect history of how the church originated Joseph Smith's shenanigans in just craziness finally just caught up with me and I left the church and 2007 never looked back.
@@dp_59 Most importantly have you now learned that the Bible is 100% complete and that you will meet God when you die for real? So, what I am really wanting to know is do you know with absolute certainty that you will be in Heaven?
Really y think you are Protestant
I found this response to be inaccurate of Latter-day Saint doctrines. He may have spoken to a BYU professor for a while, but did not fairly state our positions. He first makes a glib remark that we are demon worshipers. He then claims we are polytheist, which isn’t an accurate statement of our doctrine. He then says we worship a different Jesus. It’s true we believe different things about Jesus than traditional Christianity, but it is the same Jesus in the New Testament.
We believe in Salvation by grace. However, I feel traditional Christianity sets up a false dichotomy: Salvation by grace or works. What if it’s both? Yes, we are saved by th grace of Christ, but now we are in debt to Him. And what does does He ask of us? If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15. He minced no words when He stated in the Sermon on the Mount that if we were not more righteous than the Scribes and Pharisees we could not enter the Kingdom of God. Matt. 5:20. It’s is not an accurate portrayal of the Bible to take a few statements from Paul and twist them into a doctrine that works have no bearing on the state of our soul.
In answer to the other individual. We are not trying to get into the Christian club so we can hang with the cool kids. We are simply claiming to be Christian because we believe in Christ. If you want to more narrowly define what you have to believe in order to be Christian, you can do that. We choose the broader definition that a Christian is someone who believes in Christ. Yes. We have different doctrine than other traditional Christians, but we still believe in Christ.
Sad that even with “spending time” he still had an inaccurate and limited understanding.
It’s sad that the arguments presented are all half truths from a point of view that evidently didn’t put effort to actually learn what it is about.
These are the best half truths, but mostly they’re either a lack of understanding or outright lies perpetrated about the LDS church and its doctrine.
So, is Mormonism not works based? Do Mormons not worship Joseph Smith? How are Mormons saved?
@@CDawson28 I can try and answer those questions while not prolonging too much. The Joseph Smith question is quite simple: members of the church believe that Joseph Smith is a prophet, just like the prophets of old, Moses, Noah, John the Baptist, etc. They believe Joseph Smith received revelation just as these other prophets did, and that God always worked through prophets and always will. No prayers to JS, not worshipping, nothing like that.
About salvation and works, there is a more detailed explanation. We believe that, IF NOT for Jesus Christ, nobody could be saved. Every single person that ever existed or would exist could not be saved, since we all sin and “…the wages of sin is death…” (Romans 6:23).
Because God is perfectly just, He could not just wave his hand and save everybody, for it goes against his own character, so he prepared a plan for us to be saved. His beloved Son, Jesus Christ offered himself to come to Earth, live a perfect life, and die in exchange for us. Opposite to everyone else, Jesus was truly perfect and gave his own perfect life so we could be saved. He satisfied both the laws of justice (which required death, for all of us have sinned) and the laws of mercy.
Through Jesus Christ’s atonement, we’ve received salvation. Every single person will resurrect and receive a perfect body. Death is not the end anymore.
But Jesus didn’t give us this gift “only”. He also gave us commandments. As he said himself, “if ye love me, keep my commandments”. He wants to give us more, he wants us to be better. After he bought us with his sacrifice, He is ready to give us everything he has in store for us, but the way we can receive is to obey His commandments.
In Matthew 5:48, after one of (if not the) most iconic speeches from Jesus, he finishes it with “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect”. That is part of the sermon of the mountain, where Jesus gave us the “new law” and where he taught us how we should be. The commandments we receive from Jesus Christ are to teach us how to be more like Him and God. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ believe that through the power of Christ, everyone can be more like Him, and one day live in His presence.
This is more of a summarized version of beliefs. The official (also summarized) statement of what the church believes are called Articles of Faith. If you google “Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Articles of Faith” you will see the 13 articles that do a better job of summarizing the official beliefs of the church.
No it is not “works” based on it is based on the saving atonement of Jesus Christ, 100% completely because of him and through his grace we are saved. The only works required to receive of all the blessing God has in store for the faithful is ordinances (think baptism) and repentance, further aligning our will with God to help us in becoming more like our Savior, Jesus Christ. Don’t mainstream Christians believe in repentance? And no, we do not in any way worship Joseph Smith. We esteem him as other prophets in other times, like Moses and Abraham. We seek to follow the doctrines and principles he taught just as we do those taught in the Bible.
@@nategibbs5483 What a complete and total misrepresentation of the way Mormonism is practiced, but I understand the utility of doing so because Mormons so badly want to consider themselves Christian when they certainly and most definitely are not. In fact, Mormons are fed lies straight from the pits of hell.
If Mormonism is not works-based then why do you completely abstain from coffee, alcohol and tobacco? Doesn't Jesus teach us in the book of Matthew that "What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them..." ? The perfectionism in which Mormons strive for in daily life is proof of it being a works-based, and thus, false religion, just like Catholicism, Islam, etc.
What about all the super secret ceremonies Mormons practice at their temples? Special handshakes through a white sheet, as an example. Works-based salvation!
As for your "prophet" Joseph Smith? Did it ever occur to Mormons to compare Joseph Smith to any of the prophets mentioned in the Bible, like Isaiah? Joseph Smith was a FRAUD in every way and was even arrested for scamming people out of money. I won't even mention his practice of polygamy because that's hack at this point. Instead, let's discuss his polyandry -- marrying other men's wives, marrying both mother and daughter (many of whom were 12 & 13 years-old.) Does that sound like a heavenly prophet to you?
I pray that every Mormon wakes up and realizes the truth about their false religion. I pray that each individual who believes these hellish lies is awakened and flees from the viper pit.
Mormons are being tricked by Satan himself to believe in so many things other than the Truth -- Jesus is the Messiah, our Savior, the Great Mediator between us and the Father. All we need is Him, not legalism or perfectionism as Mormons believe. All glory to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Not any false prophets.
So...... what's Paul referring to about the 3rd heaven in 2 Corinthians 12:2?
If Mormons are not Christians, why do they have the name of Jesus Christ in their church and claim to be run the way that was set out in 1 Corinthians 12:28 and strive to follow him according to the best of their understanding?
2 Corinthians 12:2
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago-whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows-such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man-whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows- 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
The third level of heaven in the Bible is where God dwells. The second level of heaven in the Bible is where the stars and planets dwell and the first level of heaven is the visible sky/atmosphere where planes and birds fly.
1 Corinthians 12:28
And GOD HAS APPOINTED these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.
God no longer appoints people to the church to help establish the new church. The church is now established and God spesks to us today through His word under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. We are no longer in the new church age. We are no longer in the apostolic age and God no longer speaks to us through prophets. All of the gifts ceased after the apostolic age.
Simple,they worship a a jesus who was created by sexual relationship between mary and God..should stop you from joining right there
@@rickdavis2235 No, they continue today, just as the church and growing in faith does. If Since the gifts were given to empower the church for ministry, build the church, and edify the church, I think it is strange to argue that they were only needed during the time of the Apostles; as the job is not yet complete! We still need His help!
“But he that prophesies speaks unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself; but he that prophesies edifies the church.” 1 Corinthians 14:3,4.
Really, we don’t need edification, and exhortation, and comfort today?
Doesnt sound like the god you follow is consistant@@rickdavis2235
Just because they have the name of Jesus in their religion does not mean they are not a false doctrine
All this guy does is mock, berate and belittle others! And he calls himself a Christian? He may claim to believe, but he surely isnt a follower. If he were in my church I would be looking somewhere else for Christ.
It is sad that people wish to use an excuse to knock the Messenger rather than HEAR the message! This is the way the World will always respond to the truth when it comes to God things, it is only when they have a receptive heart will they then have the change of heart that God is looking for, and when God sees this broken heart, it is only at that time will He reveal Himself to that person. People are clamoring for Evidence; it is at this time they have Evidence because God will write it on a humble person’s heart permanently.
This is so sad… so much falsehood and half truths.
If someone lies to you once, you don’t have to believe another word they say. -Judge Alito
I’m so sorry that you are using your channel to spread slander.
May the Good Lord help your soul.
So disappointing… but The Almighty knows the thoughts and intents of our hearts. I’ll let Him be the judge. ☀️💕
By their fruits ye shall know them
Not with Mormons. Mormons may seem to produce the fruits of the Spirit because they are told they have to seem happy all the time. Meanwhile inside they are spiritually dead. Demons are extremely intelligent beings. They know what the Bible says too. And the Bible says that no new books should be added, also it says we are saved by grace through faith, not of our works, that none may boast
Matthew 22:29-30: Jesus states that in heaven, there is no marriage, no giving in marriage, and that we will be like the angels. This is a paraphrase. Please look it up and read Jesus' words for yourself. Don't believe me. 😊
You can check it in it's original greek. It refers to the act of being married, not the state of being married. Basically it means there are no weddings in Heaven. LDS belief is that marriages must be taken care of before one is judged.
Mormons have very strange theological beliefs, but they are some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet.
@kowynnie haha ya nice as in they are fake nice just doin it to get to the top of the heaven layered bean dip
Stranger than God talking through a burning bush... or a donkey talking?
My mom is the most naracisst person I've ever met. She's beyond brainwashed in the church. Even though I'm Christian she says I'm going too hell an all sorts of crazy shit if I don't go too church, etc. Mormonism is evil
And how be it my church save it be called in my name? For if a church be called in Moses’ name then it be Moses church; or if it be called in the name of a man then it be the Church of a man; but if it be called in my name then it is my church, if it so be that they are built upon my gospel.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the Saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus;
Ephesians 2:19-20 it talks about built upon the foundation of apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. In verse 19 Now, therefore, ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God. In
Psalm 50:5 Gather my Saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by Sacrifice.
Psalm 149:1 Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
So if it is Jesus Christ church then what is it called?
What is the foundation of his Church?
What are the members called?
Add up the clues!
Ephesians 1:1 + Ephesians 2:19-20 +Psalm 50:5 + Psalm 149:1
Add these verses up and what do you get?
The name of his Church, the organization of his Church, and the congregation of what?
So what is the total mean to you?
The fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is waiting for you and your family! Do your homework! you don't know until you study it!
Raymond Meyers
" Mormons have very strange theological beliefs, but they are some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet. "
Until you show them the errors in their doctrine. Most them become arrogant "know-it-alls" and condescending but I can deal with that because what makes deception so effective is the fact that they don't know they are being deceived.
He doesn’t even hesitate to lie about the basic belief of the church of JESUS CHRIST of latter day saints. So this are the truths he doesn’t acknowledge 1. The Articles of Faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. Lie #2 He portrayed the “ Mormonism as an evil thing. The fact is: The Prophet Joseph Smith declared, 'The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it'.lie # 3. We aren’t Christians. Let’s clarify that, the normal Christian world deny the name of the church, we aren’t Mormons, we are saints just like the Bible calles the true followers of the Living Christ: he came with ten thousands of saints, Deut. 33:2 (Jude 1:14).
He will keep the feet of his saints, 1 Sam. 2:9.
Gather my saints … that have made a covenant, Ps. 50:5.
God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, Ps. 89:7.
preserveth the souls of his saints, Ps. 97:10.
Sing unto the Lord … in the congregation of saints, Ps. 149:1.
saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, Dan. 7:18 (7:22, 27).
war with the saints, Dan. 7:21 (Rev. 13:7; D&C 76:29).
heard one saint speaking, Dan. 8:13.
God shall come, and all the saints with thee, Zech. 14:5.
many bodies of the saints which slept arose, Matt. 27:52 (Hel. 14:25; 3 Ne. 23:9-11).
heard … evil he hath done to thy saints, Acts 9:13.
to the saints which dwelt at Lydda, Acts 9:32.
when he had called the saints and widows, Acts 9:41.
beloved of God, called to be saints, Rom. 1:7.
he maketh intercession for the saints, Rom. 8:27.
Distributing to the necessity of saints, Rom. 12:13.
I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints, Rom. 15:25.
sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, 1 Cor. 1:2.
saints shall judge the world, 1 Cor. 6:2.
author … of peace, as in all churches of the saints, 1 Cor. 14:33.
saints which are in all Achaia, 2 Cor. 1:1.
fellowship of the ministering to the saints, 2 Cor. 8:4.
not only supplieth the want of the saints, 2 Cor. 9:12.
to the saints which are at Ephesus, Eph. 1:1.
no more strangers … but fellowcitizens with the saints, Eph. 2:19.
who am less than the least of all saints, Eph. 3:8.
For the perfecting of the saints, Eph. 4:12 (D&C 124:143).
fornication … let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints, Eph. 5:3.
all perseverance and supplication for all saints, Eph. 6:18.
saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, Philip. 1:1.
To the saints and faithful brethren, Col. 1:2.
coming of our Lord … with all his saints, 1 Thes. 3:13.
he shall come to be glorified in his saints, 2 Thes. 1:10.
ye have ministered to the saints, Heb. 6:10.
Salute … all the saints, Heb. 13:24.
contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints, Jude 1:3.
odours, which are the prayers of saints, Rev. 5:8.
offer it with the prayers of all saints, Rev. 8:3.
the patience and the faith of the saints, Rev. 13:10 (14:12).
thou King of saints, Rev. 15:3.
they have shed the blood of saints, Rev. 16:6.
woman drunken with the blood of the saints, Rev. 17:6. Actually the Book of Mormons uses the tittle Christians, Alma chapter 46. This is my personal testimony, based on The Spirit of Prophecy and Revelation that, JESUS IS THE CHRIST, HE LIVES AND HE WILL COME BACK!
Our Father in Heaven knows what's in each of our hearts.
Yep! Hence Jeremiah 17:9.
Cultist
@@stayblessed471-v5p How does this present the Gospel? Is this how you win souls?
He dose know exactly whats in our hearts ,its a good feeling ..
God knows everything... He's God. "God knowing our hearts" can in no way be used to justify anything, especially the condition of our hearts, or our salvation.
I am no Bible scholar, but even I know the three degrees of heaven are referenced to in the Bible. So it seems he needs to make up his mind if he really believes in the Bible, or is he opening lying to us for the sake of another agenda.
Provide the verses
@@Jason-io8pe 1 Corinthians 15: 40 - 42
and maybe Mark 12:25 might be relevant
@@kellyinfanger9192 Perhaps you can read the passage in context:
start with 1 Corinthians 15: 35
But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?”
The answer isn't how many levels of heaven but what is it LIKE in heaven.
Separate yourselves from all who do not teach and preach salvation through Christ and Christ alone.
"Show me your faith without works, and I will show you faith from my works."(Jas 2:18)
Based upon Matthew 25 and Philippians 2:12, which both run contrary to your statement, I'd say it's fidelity to Christ, not belief in Christ that allows one to access the fullness of salvation.
@@CadillacBunner Richard, l could not down load Jasper 2.18 onto my phone . I wondered if you could tell me a little more of your understanding of this verse.
My experience has been that without grace, without faith which in itself is a gift from God , my own efforts could only produce a hollow and more temporary work or success against sin. It has been God's immense grace that has empowered me through faith to overcome sin and suffering with His help for the big win in an internal deeply felt longterm effect. Ephesians 2.8-10 The works become the Fruit that was long ago prepared that l was meant to walk in. So l am not saved by my works , but l was saved by grace through faith in God all a gift of God that l could not boast, now l work due to gratitude and joy which is the fruit of my faith which is a gift, still can't boast.. All l have is Jesus Christ and the Father who drew me to Him , and the Holy Spirit which fills my heart..what else could l possibly need?❤🙏
Would like to hear your thoughts.
@@inChristalone1960 Allow me to shed a little light on an otherwise clouded topic of contention. I will forego your sad attempt at humiliation in condemning a mistyping of the abbreviation of James, and direct you to the full summary that James, the brother of Jesus, give on the topic of faith and works. The passages you are looking for are James 2:14-26. If you want to say that Jesus’ brother misunderstood the teaching he heard directly from the Savior’s mouth, then we will have to ask “what else in the Bible is incorrect, and how would you propose we rectify such false teachings?” If you believe the Bible as you claim you do, then you have to recalibrate your understanding of faith alone being sufficient for salvation. Jesus said in Matt 7:21, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven.” It would seem that even Jesus claimed there was a level of effort that is need to be allowed into Heaven. Faith alone isn’t enough.
Just to give a little perspective to your claim, everyone that you disagree with religiously would be saved so long as they accept Jesus into their lives. Therefore, you may disagree with the Mormons, but as they have accepted Jesus, they too are saved. But according to you, and every other born again Christian, this can not be allowed, so you say that the “Mormon Jesus” is the wrong Jesus, thereby disqualifying them from the saving grace of God. But there is only one Jesus, so how can the Mormons worship the wrong Jesus if there is only one?
The born again Christian argument is breed from the same self righteous belief as the Jews of the Old Testament, that sought only to find comfort in their sinful ways. To say the one would have to live without indulging in the worldly pleasures that are ever present before us all, would be to difficult of a task for people who just want an easy path to everlasting joy and peace in the next life. But a true Christian would understand that to live with Jesus where he live would require one to live on earth as He did.
@@NathanJones463 You assume you can redefine Jesus and the Father , dismiss them in the temple endowment ceremony 😒 and still claim to be Christian. I suggest you look and listen a little closer. Listen to the words of Satan to Adam in that ceremony ( l will not say it here ) the first words he says to him... compare that to the word's of Jesus to the woman at the well.. " God is Spirit , and those who worship HIM must worship HIM in SPIRIT and in truth".These are the words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The true Biblical Christ. Not the Freemasonic Luciferian lds version. Please research further.
Where is your loyalty? In what or whom have you placed your faith?
You have also ASSUMED that l desire to sin, and that l still feel FREE to sin. 😒🙄 You have assume Jesus Christ is only my Savior but YOU do not know that HE IS the LORD of my life!!! I answer directly to HIM. Jeremiah 31.33. He has written HIS law upon my heart. I am striving to live every commandment. Animal sacrifice excepted..
Please consider getting off of that high horse you are on. You do not know everything and everyone. 💔
Mr. MacArthur, you do not understand and are misrepresenting the religion, you don't understand Christianity, Christ, or the Nature of God. Latter Day Saints believe in God, The Eternal Father, His Son, Jesus Christ, the Redeemer of Man Kind, we believe that we, as God's children, can become like him. What else would we become? We believe in only one God and one Saviour. Saying otherwise is simply false. You are at a disadvantage, you're not in possession of all the facts. Only God can make his will known to Man Kind, through a prophet. Do you have a prophet?... Want to barrow mine?
Mormon Religion in a Nutshell explained by someone who knows a Mormon is like asking the guy that sat next to Albert Einstein on the bus about the Theory of Relativity.
Whenever Mormons go on their mission, they not only greet everyone on the road about Mormonism, they also go house to house which it states quite clearly not to do in Luke 10:3-12. But also when they do spread the word they don’t even give people the Bible but the Book of Mormon instead, if that’s not the exact definition of heresy then I don’t know what is.
Luke 10:3-12 doesn't say that at all. The last sentence of verse 7 does say that but within the context of don't move around house to house when in a city but stay in one house while you are there.
If Mormons are Christians why is their main book the book of Mormon rather than the Bible? Why do they not care that the book of revelations says that the Bible is complete. This was 2000 years ago. Then suddenly God changes his mind and sends His angels to tell Joseph Smith to create new books that say that Jesus is our spiritual brother and the first human God raised to God hood? And that when we die we will become God's of our own planets? You are being deceived. That's why you're not allowed to marry a Christian and you are only allowed to be friends with and be married to other Mormons? Doesn't that sound kind of DEMONIC to you? It's meant to keep you in deception. Reject this false doctrine! You will go to Hell following this false doctrine! I have never seen a Mormon pass out a Bible. They pass out the book of Mormon instead, which has books that are not in the BIBLE
The disciples are being instructed to be happy with whatever food those who invite them in are able to give, and not to go door-to-door seeking better food or accommodations.
You don't have to be a mormon to understand mormonism just like how a doctor doesn't have to cancer to perform a surgery.
Ridicule is not a theological explanation.
Clarification is!
I agree. There is plenty to be said about some core issues with Mormonism being inconsistent with the Bible
John MacArthur needs a new nutshell. None of those points would come close to turning me. 1) I never have understood the "another Jesus" delineation. I believe Jesus of Nazareth, the son of God, born of Mary, who lived a sinless life and died on the cross and was resurrected about 33 AD is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If Christians don't believe that, that's their problem. 2) I've never understood the hyper focus on divorcing faith from works. Works focused on God are interconnected with faith and the two can't be separated. I've watched Christian preachers from different denominations fight this concept amongst themselves in regards to baptism ad nauseum. Please leave my church out of it. 3) The Bible is not a perfectly clear document. It has inconsistent teachings. That's why there are so many Christian Churches!!! I listen to preachers all of the time saying "well in the Greek translation ..... word really means ..... , so you can stop pretending that you believe the Bible is without flaw. The accounts are still true as are the prophecies, the blessings of Israel's posterity, and the testimonies of Christ. It's okay if the Bible isn't 100% accurate so you can also stop bashing on the church for pointing out the obvious. 4) Protestant churches always go after the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints on saved by grace, but when they talk among themselves they preach a lot about doing good works and condemning bad works. Everyone knows it. Spare us the hypocrisy. 5) Evangelicals freak out about the becoming Gods concept. Every baby has a spark of divinity. God imparts blessings and powers with those he trusts. We can become "joint heirs with Christ." What does that biblical teaching mean? What exactly are you going to inherit? A nice house in a great community where there are no sins and no problem? We all know there is more to the universe and eternity than that. I can believe this without worshiping everyone around me. I worship God, not his children, even though the children possess great potential. The polytheism argument against the church does not resonate with me at all.
well said
Where does your teaching that Jesus and Satan are Brothers when Satan was a created being created by Jesus who by him were all things created
@@michaelgregory7719 it just says in the beginning
@@michaelgregory7719 It's easy for me to put some limits on that. I believe Christ created the earth we live in, but Jesus did not create God the Father, nor did he create Satan. God the Father created our spirits. My spirit, your spirit, Christ's spirit, Satan's spirit. Christ is quoted in John 20:17 that he is going to his Father and your Father. Isaiah 14 talks about Satan being cast out of heaven as does Revelations 12. Although so many Christian Pastors love to pretend that they understand the relationship between Christ and Satan and condemn other for believing otherwise, the Bible does not spell out Christ's / Satan's relationship. If you dare read the Book of Abraham 3:22 (Pearl of Great Price) to the end of the chapter, you will find additional information on what Satan's banishment looked like and the relationship between God the Father, Christ the Son, and Satan. It's harder for me to believe that Satan is Christ's creation / son as taught by Evangelical churches than to believe they are spirit brothers who took two separate paths.
Most of Mormons I think are quite intelligent but the sad part is that most of them are a foolish people, they are deceived by anything that their church or that matter also Joseph Smith told them. They cannot decipher truth from fiction. Why do you think the true Christian care about the LDS members is because we see how foolish they can be in the things that they believe when most people are able to tell that it is fiction or nothing but a fairytale but they believe it to be true. They are told to keep trying to receive the burning in the bosom and if they don't get it just keep trying and then they feel something and they then believe it is the burning but it could very well be an upset stomach. They even sometimes read the Bible and they know that Gods Word the Bible does not mention anything about the Burning in the Bosom. It is exactly the same thing that Pentecostals do they keep telling the ones in their congregation that if they keep working on it, they will get the gift of speaking in tongues, so the members keep trying and then finally they get something sounding like baby talk and they think now they have the gift of speaking in tongues. I am sorry to say that is not of God because God says that He is not a God of confusion and if you listen to anyone speaking in tongues it is very confusing and stressful, this is not of God.
I am sorry that you do not know the God or Jesus of the Bible because if you did you would not be a Mormon. Your Jesus was created our Jesus was from Eternity past and will be forever, He had no beginning, you think God was a man before He became God and before the man was another God. I have yet found a Mormon to realize how ridiculously foolish and Gullible that this kind of thinking is. Even though I can spell out how foolish this thinking is and the IMPOSSIBILITY this could be, you will most likely not catch on.
So, if God was a man first and before that man was a God who had been a man. I who has lots of common sense can understand the impossibility of this. So, my question to you is you also believe that if you play your cards right you can also become a God someday, and that you will have bliss with your family on a planet that you get to create. Now if you truly believe all of that, I now ask you to make some sense in your head on how that could be, if you admit that all the Gods through the Eternities have all lost their Power or they had to relinquish their power to the next man in line of getting the position of being the next God. So, if these Gods died off and then the next God took His place. How in the world do you think that when it becomes your turn to be a God that you are now going to live forever being a God. Can you see the point I am making, you too will someday lose your Godhood and the next person in line will take your place. So, then your spot that you had worked so hard to achieve is now gone forever. This is why the LDS people are known by most people that are not Mormons to be so very gullible by thinking like this. I only took my time to explain this, is because we as true Christians want you to realize the foolishness that you believe in. I am only talking about one foolish thing that you believe in and there are many of them. We want you to find the real Jesus and the real God because they are the only ones that can make your life worth living. You can stay with the Mormon church and you will never come to the point of reaching a place of Joy and Peace. It is not going to happen! Only the Real Jesus and God can give True Satisfaction and PEACE.
I met Mormons and they are usually friendly,loving and kind people but they are deceived by a false religion .I have a great passion for them and to other religion just like Paul's Passion for Israel. 📃🙏
Romans 10:1-4
English Standard Version
10 Brothers,[a] my heart's desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
That is not my experience in the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. I wouldn't ask a sailor how to fly an airplane. If you want to know what they truly believe, just look up their website and meet with missionaries! It's that easy. They are full time representatives that volunteer part of their lives to answering your questions about the faith and helping you come closer to God. ❤
Some, left THECHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, But, can't leave the CHURCH alone.
Because many of those people who left the church love their Mormon friends and family and want them to understand that they need to accept the gift of God, repent and come to the true Jesus of the bible to be saved. Works, temple recommends, temple marriage, sealings, baptism for the dead, tithing, none of these will get a person to heaven.
@@jenman1293 Your comment perfectly reveal that, you're ignoring, the fullness and the truthfulness, of THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, due to your rebelliousness, and the lack of knowledge. You're one of those rebellious, lost, deceitful, betrayal, miserable, lack of knowledge, soul. You don't know what you're talking about, period.
Ditto!!!
@@jenman1293 Your comment perfectly reveal your extreme lack of knowledge, and rebelliousness. You coming up with all your rubbish, endless excuses, what a shame.
@@jenman1293 we have all already achieved heaven after this life because of the the atonement of Jesus Christ-that is free to all of us who ever have been born or will be born on this earth. Salvation is FREE because of that. Born-agains are so preoccupied with what the Savior has saved them from that they fail to contemplate what He has saved them for. Ad wonderful and miraculous as salvation is, there is much more beyond that. We can be co-inheritors with Christ to all the Father has.
2Nephi Ch.29
1 But behold, there shall be many-at that day when I shall proceed to do a marvelous work among them, that I may remember my covenants which I have made unto the children of men, that I may set my hand again the second time to recover my people, which are of the house of Israel;
2 And also, that I may remember the promises which I have made unto thee, Nephi, and also unto thy father, that I would remember your seed; and that the words of your seed should proceed forth out of my mouth unto your seed; and my words shall hiss forth unto the ends of the earth, for a standard unto my people, which are of the house of Israel;
3 And because my words shall hiss forth-many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible.
4 But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. And what thank they the Jews for the Bible which they receive from them? Yea, what do the Gentiles mean? Do they remember the travails, and the labors, and the pains of the Jews, and their diligence unto me, in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles?
5 O ye Gentiles, have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; for I the Lord have not forgotten my people.
6 Thou fool, that shall say: A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?
7 Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring forth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
11 For I command all men, both in the east and in the west, and in the north, and in the south, and in the islands of the sea, that they shall write the words which I speak unto them; for out of the books which shall be written I will judge the world, every man according to their works, according to that which is written.
12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it.
13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.
14 And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. And I will show unto them that fight against my word and against my people, who are of the house of Israel, that I am God, and that I covenanted with Abraham that I would remember his seed forever.
That is not in the Bible
John R
Can you provide ancient manuscripts from 600 B.C. to substantiate this, especially since it's written in perfect 17th century King's English.
Yikes
@@rickdavis2235 To them it does not matter when it was written, they believe what JS and their apostles have written they do not need any proof about anything when it comes from what their superiors have written. I should add at least the majority of them it does not matter.
I'm a Latter-day saint, and honestly, the way he mocked and demeaned us by calling us devil worshippers and misconstruing some of our beliefs, as well as the hatred leveled against us in the comments section was extremely discouraging.
All I and my friends want is to live honest lives and improve who we are through the atonement of Christ. Being bullied for that is demoralizing and hurtful. Sure we have different doctrines from other Christians, but I don't see why that's an issue since you can say the same about every religion and sect on Earth. Different people have different opinions-that's completely normal.
The way I see it, the most vital thing is for everyone to be the best they can with whatever knowledge has been given to them in their mortal lives, and strive for honesty and righteousness in whatever way they understand. Obviously human nature constantly gets in the way of that, but no group of people can be exempted from those flaws. We have them, and so does everyone else.
But what hurt even more was that I sensed little if any Christian humility or compassion here, from John and most of the commenters. You can call me biased-I definitely am-but the truth is that I generally think of people of other faiths, particularly other Christians, as being brothers and sisters in the worship of God, and this video weakened my faith in that conviction. It made me wonder if maybe the anti-theist community is right that Christianity and religion in general is more likely to breed arrogance and bigotry than love and compassion, and that was a far worse revelation than the idea that I'm going to be mocked and belittled just because I'm trying to be the best person I can through the traditions I was born into.
I'm a member too... why can't people just respect our religion 🙄🙄
Amen.
Well said. Thank you for this insight .
All those things are good intentioned. What I don't understand and please give me your insight about the ideas about heaven. It sounds like in some states of heaven, you have people who marry each other.
Christ has said "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven."
So I just don't know how that belief even started when we have direct words from Christ.
But it's like the same don't put your faith in Christianity or your religion put your faith in Christ himself that's trust .he himself is the truth
John MacArthur should not talk about Mormonism if he doesn't know anything about it. Wat a poor way to teach about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints.
I agree. What a disappointment. I expected this man to act more Christian, but he doesn't seem to know how.
If you can’t trust the Bible’s inerrancy then you can’t believe in Jesus’ ministry. People need prayers to have a heavy heart to repent
I have been a member of the LDS faith my whole life and just discovered that Robert Millet was the brain trust of our faith and wrote most of the books!
I think I have read only two of them where’s all the rest?
What a jackal? Love laughing by the others on the stage seriously?!??
This guy is not telling the truth, he is way off base !
I feel very sad for you people. You are being deceived. John Smith is in Hell and he will lead you there too. Are you willing to risk eternal damnation for a book that was made less than 200 years ago? Pray for discernment of the Holy Spirit.
I've often thought that it is interesting to note the personal contempt that evangelical Protestant Christianity displays towards Mormonism. I've noticed this before and I imagine that it is something that will continue. I'm just left wondering why. I understand that there are difference in belief, but the level of obvious disrespect that is frequently pointed towards us puzzles me somewhat.
If you think the contempt Christians who are faithful to God have for Mormon doctrine is interesting, you should take note of the contempt God has for Mormonism.
You can begin to understand God's actual contempt for their religion in this verse: Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
The word accursed there at the end is also the greek word anathema which means to be damned to Hell.
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
The Gospel is Jesus crucified, died, buried, and raised from the dead. And his brutal scourging and crucifixion are the full price paid for our sins. When we confess our sins, and ask Him for forgiveness, we receive it and eternal life sealed in our spirits.
The Mormon Jesus is not the historical and actual Jesus. They define him differently. Their "gospel" is entirely different and therefore false and leading people to Hell. Yet they claim to be Christian and it is entirely deceitful for them to do so knowing they don't believe the Word of God.
This is why true Christians view their teaching with contempt. Personally, I have compassion for Mormons and pray God will save as many fo them as He will. And many have repented and turned to Jesus.
@@scottb4579
All I can really say to that is if you're determined to view others with complete contempt, then you're probably not very loving and compassionate.
Mind you, I'm not referring to you specifically, I'm referring to those who you attempted to justify the contempt of.
It's perfectly common for any group of people to be social pariahs when they are different in any way from the majority. I honestly don't see any way to avoid that fact because it's simply human nature to treat those who are different as inferiors.
I mean, you can train yourself to be more open-minded and loving, but you can't shift a whole society to be that way. The Communists tried, and it didn't turn out so well.
@@warrioroflight6872 Oh, I have contempt for Mormon doctrine as well as it's leading people to Hell.
Loving the truth and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ is not at all contempt for people. It is loving them and displaying compassion. Many Mormons have rejected LDS and have believed the gospel because of the truth being told to them.
You obviously don't believe that truth. Without Jesus, and I mean the true Jesus, you are on your way to Hell. I don't want you to go there. God is not accepting Mormons into His kingdom who don't repent of their false religion.
I've noticed that too. The hatred towards latter day saints seems very non-christian so why is this conversation even brought up? If you have to argue or debate your faith in Jesus christ, you've already lost since this is not the love of Christ you seeking, its contention.
Saved yes, all
Men are saved by grace. However you have very little understanding of The Church of Jesus Christ or Latter Day Saints you’re going to be in for a big shock
The beliefs of the LDS church are shocking. Even the LDS church denies several of them. ie. The Book of Abraham is now fiction (1967), the Adam-God doctrine, people live on the moon (Joseph Smith), people live on the moon and on the sun (Brigham Young), Jesus Christ practiced polygamy, fathered children, and was crucified because he practiced polygamy, Joseph Smith is a descendant of Jesus Christ, Joseph Smith was anointed king of the earth during the Millennium by 50 men, etc..
... I'm actually more curious what he thinks his religion is.
Why are there so many Churches in the world today?
Why are there so many Bibles?
Jesus Christ Gave his all for us! He love us and gave us his Gospel!
If it is my Church then it called in my NAME “Jesus Christ”! +Ephesians 1:1 + Ephesians 2:19-20 “ Organization” +Psalm 50:5 + Psalm 149:1 “ Congregation of Saints” Add these verses up and what do you get? Is it one fold “congregation”, one Sheppard “Jesus Christ”?
Is religious organizations confusing? Why do we have so many Bibles, and churches?
In Revelations 22:18-19 have we opened the plagues unto the world by having so many Bibles and churches?
What about Revelations 22:22? How does it affect Ephesians 2:19-20, and us today?
Yes! The Church of Jesus Christ has been restored to the Earth! With Prophets 12 Apostles, the members are called Saints!
churchofjesuschrist. org/comeuntochrist
It makes Sense!
So Why do we have so many Preachers preaching their own Philosophies and naming their churches whatever?
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. Mathew 22:30 . This is like the Jan6 hearings, no debate, just one side. I am a Christian worshiping in a Catholic church. Jesus wants us to love him and accept his sacrifice for our sinful unworthiness. Repentance and Works come as a consequence of the love we have for him. A lot is noise that cannot be known by us.
FENTON PAINTER: Have you ever read Matthew 18:18? Matthew 18:18 (AKJV) “Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” The Apostles could bind marriages and other ordinances in Heaven!
Ever seen an angel?, thought not, where is heaven?;. Accept his sacrifice?,'vicarious redemption' is the term used for passing sins onto others,...a hideous and nauseous prospect.
Stop preaching, and read some other book,...like Harry Potter, there's more truth in that than your book of fairy tales.
Timothy Williams: “Ever seen an angel?” How would you discern an angel from a mortal perspective?
“Accept his sacrifice?,'vicarious redemption' is the term used for passing sins onto others,...a hideous and nauseous prospect.” Not if you are a sinner who wants immortality!
“Stop preaching, and read some other book,...like Harry Potter, there's more truth in that than your book of fairy tales.” Have you read both my book and Harry Potter?
@@dleoburns Sinners,immortality?, you are most certainly delusional,I'll concede that; as for angels and mortal perspectives, I wouldn't know,neither would, you the supernatural has never been proven. The imaginary and non existent look very much alike, and I have read your book of allegorical tales, cobbled together stories and myth, that's why I'm anatheist, as is most of the UK, but the US has a loooooong way to go, a pity.
There will be no marriage or giving of marriage in heaven after the resurrection. Matthew 22:30
Then you agree with Mormonisms that those who don't want to be married, won't be married in heaven.
@@stephtimms1776 According to Mormon teachings, Mormons will be married in heaven and live on different planets and they will have several wives.
11 Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord. (1 Corinthians) ~ whereas, the scripture you have quoted applies to a specific case and not all cases. One helpful rule when reading scripture is to consider who is being spoken to and why.
@@harryabelpotter9630 The verse says no marriage in heaven. Period. Nothing to dispute.
@@Revelation18-4 That's not what it says. It says in that case, a case where there was no children, there would be no marriage, but shall be as the angels in heaven.
This is a distorted load of crap on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
wow, I can't believe how off he is in his comments. I have heard some weird things about telling others what someone else believes, but I have to say, this one is really weird. Just know that they leave out a ton of stuff as well as twist a lot of stuff. I would be very cautious listening to someone like this as they are not telling a true understanding.
@@ShruteFarms001 He never answers the question, posed "What do we say to these people?" LDS members don't worship "millions of gods." Latter-day Saints worship one God: Jehovah. McArthur worships three gods through the so-called "trinity" teaching which is not even found in the bible (it was added by monastic copyists and used to be labeled 1 Jn 5:7).
@@ShruteFarms001, if it's heresy to believe that a plurality of gods exist, then I guess Moses was a heretic (see Deuteronomy 10:17 and also 32:43 in the ESV or NRSV).
And based on your claim, apparently so was Daniel (Daniel 11:36), Paul (1 Corinthians 8:5-6), and even Jesus (Psalm 82, John 10:34). But clearly they weren't heretics, so if Latter-day Saints are condemned by you for believing something the prophets and Christ himself also believed, then I guess we're in good company.
@@jeremygunter8806 The references to other gods are false gods. In one sense demons present themselves to humanity as gods to be worshipped. In another sense, anything can become an idol that we worship, making that thing no different than a god. God is infinite. We will never be infinite. We will never be all-knowing and all-powerful.
:@@truthbebold4009, While it is correct that in some instances, the scriptures are clearly talking about idols (Leviticus 19:4) and shedim (Deuteronomy 32:17), if it were true that there were no gods other than the Most High God, then:
-He would not have called other beings "gods" and his "sons" (Psalm 82:6);
-Jesus would not have confirmed the statement as scripture (John 10:35);
-God would not stand in a congregation composed of these "gods" (Psalm 82:1); and
-The scriptures would not refer to this congregation of "gods" as "holy ones" (Psalm 89:5) and God's sons (v6) that stand among him (v7).
No, what's true is that you're applying your own presuppositions onto the text, and it's inhibiting your ability to recognize the original meaning.
Now, when you say that idols that people worship are "no different than a god", that's certainly not correct. An idol has absolutely no power or authority to do anything other than to be acted upon.
And when you say "We will never be infinite. We will never be all-knowing and all-powerful." that is perhaps true, but Jesus seems to teach something different. While God will always be our God and Father, and we will never equal him in majesty, Jesus taught that his faithful followers:
-Will be as their master is (Luke 6:40);
-Will govern in his kingdom (Matthew 19:28-30; Revelation 2:26-28); and
-Will sit on his throne with him as he sat on his Father's throne (Revelation 3:21).
Paul says they will have bodies just like Jesus' (Philippians 3:21) and they will mature unto the full "measure of the stature of Christ" (Ephesians 4:13). Peter says they will "partake of the divine nature" (Philippians 3:21). Between Jesus', Paul's, and Peter's statements, it sounds to me like Christ's faithful followers will be "gods" in the same sense that the scriptures talk about the "sons of God" in the Old Testament being "gods", e.g., that they'd be powerful beings trusted with stewardship of various parts of God's creation.
@@CadillacBunner YES HE TROLL
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it really worries me that this man took our doctrine of being sealed for eternity to those we love, our companions and help-meets through our lives and theirs, and emphasized it was sexual? Does he only see his spouse as a sexual object? Poor woman, if so. I hope she finds her voice.
I feel Evangelical Christians see our religion as a threat. But my Savior and Redeemer is the Jesus Christ which preached the Sermon on the Mount. The Son who came to this Earth so He could set the example and show the way! Who laid down His life, and was resurrected so that someday we all might receive the same gift. The One who will stand with us before the judgement bar of God and allow God to be filled with Justice AND extend Mercy. I wonder what my Lord and Savior would have to say to this young man, who had a genuine question, but went to the wrong source. This young man at the microphone seems to have legit concerns for those this young man feels must not know the Grace of our Savior. I think Jesus Christ would tell this young man, not a bunch of lies, but, "by their fruits, you will know them".
I hope anyone who is genuinely concerned for the soul of a "Mormon" would actually go talk to a member of my faith who is trying their best to live a life following the teachings of Jesus Christ. What is the fruit of their lives? I'm not talking about a hypocrite that is not really living what our leaders have asked us to incorporate into our lives.
Where is Christ or God in this leader's response? All I heard was stubborn pride and spreading of misinterpretations of beliefs I love deeply (& NOT in a perverse, sexualized way! Again, I don't understand what I just heard, unless the man responding was staying stubbornly and purposefully ignorant of our beliefs, clinging to his prejudices like the Pharisees who crucified our Savior.) I am just so baffled about what I just watched, it makes no sense to my Autistic mind how these lies can keep being believed by so many?
thank you for this. I respect you.
They want to believe them. They find glee in spreading mockery and lies about other's beliefs apparently. It's evil.
It is an interesting paradox. I have known "Christians" who regularly fornicated, etc, and then told me 'thank heaven I'm saved by the grace of Christ". Yet Christ said not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but he that does the will of my father in heaven (matt 7:21-23) and there are other such biblical examples. So the LDS version of salvation requiring works has basis in scripture. It simply cannot be true (nor scriptural) that a Christian can do whatever he or she wishes and be saved by grace alone, Mormons believe that grace fills the gap between what submission to gods will and obedience to his laws does in the life of a sinner, and what God requires to enter his kingdom. From my reading of the New Testament this is a very logical and scripturally sound paradigm. We must do, change, become, not merely profess. There are things about Mormonism that make complete sense to me, and others that do not.
John Faris
" It simply cannot be true (nor scriptural) that a Christian can do whatever he or she wishes and be saved by grace alone, Mormons believe that grace fills the gap between what submission to gods will and obedience to his laws does in the life of a sinner, and what God requires to enter his kingdom. "
There are two things to take away from this. Jesus was talking about people boasting about their works. Who did Jesus say would be in heaven? Those who do the will of His Father.
What is the most important will of the Father? John 6:40 tells us explicitly that it is the will of the Father: "For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”" that we believe in Christ. Notice we are commanded to believe in Christ.
"And this is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us."
"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12
Those who obey this command are called Christians. God desires that every man and woman believe in Jesus Christ, but not everyone will obey. Only by believing in Jesus Christ will any person obey this command and go to heaven.
"For God so loved the word that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." Just by believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ we are saved. What is it we believe about Jesus Christ?
1 Corinthians 15:1-2
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
That is the Gospel. When we believe only in that, we are saved.
The second take-away is that anyone who continues in sin was never saved to begin with. We are known by our fruits and as James put it, if we have no fruits, our faith is dead.
Do not confuse "works" with conduct.
Tell me then, what is the difference? I see 'Christians' produce the works of sin and think they are just fine, it can't be so, and clearly isn't in scripture, there must be 'works' of some kind. Call it conduct, call it works, compliance with the commandments is mandatory to please god.@@notw333
These people were either lying or relying on their works to save them, not Christ's righteousness.
Another example is when the rich young ruler approaches Jesus and asks Him, "What can I DO, to inherit eternal life?"
Also, look at the Old Testament. "Our good deeds are like filthy rags." Nothing we can do would make up for even one of our sins. All have sinned and fall short of God's glory.
Thank you for a grounded and graceful response. I am always shocked to see and hear Preachers seeking to condemn other denominations when the Latter-day Saint..Church of Jesus Christ church never seeks to expose, so called truth shaming other fellow seekers of Christ...I have explored Baptist, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Southern Baptist, Trinity Baptist, Catholicism and Judiasm..sat in services, spoke with clergy and their missionaries and find myself ever convinced that I am where I am meant to be, Mormon as they say, and know that many true seekers from all denominations will be saved...the true disqualifier is those who profess his name and live counter his teachings..believing he will save them in their sins..and those who deny him and his divinity... Jesus is my Savior...
Claims Book of Mormon is a non-corrupted holy bible is quite a neat argument commonly used by those young men at my front door. Obviously they are taught well by their institution before are sent out to proselytize. 🤥🤥
*Also how strange it is a majority of Mormon doctrines, practices, and teachings CANNOT be found in the Book of Mormon.* Very strange considering the claims made by the author, Joseph Smith.
In the Introduction to the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism wrote, “I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”
Temple rituals, underwear with sewn in Masonic symbols, the practice of polygamy, are not in the Book of Mormon. Also you will not learn who the Mormon god is from the Book of Mormon. Smith did not reveal the god of Mormons is an exalted man until 14 years after he wrote the Book of Mormon.
I am single, have been for 14 yrs . And i have NEVER been happier 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅...
Actually, GOD GETS ALL THE GLORY . AMEN 🙏 HALLELUJAH THANK YOU FOR SHARING . GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND YOUR LOVED ONES ✝️ 🙏 🌹
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Me too and I get ya! It sounded a little harsh to say "stuck" being single when Apostle Paul called it "a gift" ALSO? There is no "marriage" to a mate in Heaven! That is only for this world!
♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
♦"The delusional religious fools are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt."
♦"Only fools revere the myths just bc a book claims itself to be the holy truth."
♦"The religious believe by the millions what lunatics could believe on their own."
♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
♦"It's difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."
So let’s all pretend, via a pseudo-science, that once upon a time something exploded and then by random happenstance and dumb luck somehow everything we see came into existence, aka the big bang theory, and by random happenstance and dump luck a fish mutated into a human, aka, evolution.
@@kjvjay
Unfortunately you are not saying anything intelligent by thinking properly & honestly.
@@AtamMardes Funny, I was having similar thoughts about your comments.
@@kjvjay
It would have been better for you to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubts.
@@AtamMardes I see you picked up a quote from Mark Twain. Here is a quote for you. “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.” (Psalms 14: 1)
You couldn't be further from the mark.
Exactly
@BicycleForHealth Yes. Christ is the only begotten of the Father, not the Holy Ghost The Father and the Holy Ghost are separate personages as President Brigham Young was clarifying from Matthew and Luke Chapter 1. Too which you will probably point out then that President Young was contradicting the Bible in the verses that say that Mary conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost. What does that mean? I don't have the answer for you and frankly it doesn't matter. Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD the Father and the Savior of the World. That is all that matters.
Joseph Smith is the same as Mohammed. They are not the prophets of Lord Jesus.
This is amazing! A person that claims to know so much about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints but gets everything wrong. Wow, just wow. The Savior is the way, the truth & the light. What is said here is not true at all.
I am SO grateful for the Savior, His life & his love for all mankind.
Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave a religion! But do they have to degrade or put down something that they themselves are not willing to be a part of? Jesus Christ established his Gospel with 12 Apostles and Prophets. His established organization, called in his name, with his ordinances and covenants! We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets. If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants! What are the results of choosing not to? Choices can and will condemn us or Choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! With that term, they are removed or separated from Jesus Christ, Not willing to live by his teachings! Why are they not willing to! it is a choice!
@@Christianchooseprove jesus had even existed . can you ? no, no you can't.
@@cliftongaither6642 Can you prove there is no God? You can't! Society and philosophers say there is no God! It takes faith to know that there is a God! The Bible archeologist can prove that there is a God! But you still have to believe the evidence!
@@Christianchoose bible archeologists? oh, you mean christian pseudo science. yeah, try again. besides, one can't disprove something that has absolutely no evidence. in other words, one can't prove a negative. and, btw the way, faith is a bullshit way to believe something . its a cop out . perhaps you can give me names of so called scientists who have proven your god ? hahaha
Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave! Perhaps they are not deeply rooted in the Gospel of Jesus Christ! If a tree is not deeply rooted it will fall, and so are we! We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets, each day.
The foundation “ Ephesians 1:1, 2:19-20, John 15;16, Acts 13:3, Acts 14:23,
Mark 3:14-18,Psalm 50:5, 89:7,149: 1, 2 Corinthians 8:4,
It is the root system of the gospel of Jesus Christ!
If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants! Choices can and will condemn us or choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! they are willing to be removed or separated from Jesus Christ! Not willing to live by his teachings every day!
Why are they not willing to live the gospel each day is a choice!
Why do they persecute those who choose to live the gospel of Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ loves all of us! Come Unto Christ return to the ordinances and covenants!
Returning takes effort on our part!
One step at a time, it is worth it!
Come Unto Christ!
He says we believe we earn our way into heaven, this isn't what we believe. Grace makes up for our imperfections by the atonement so that we can be washed and made clean and thus worthy of heaven because no unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God. Our actions must align with following God's commandments as close to perfect as we can. If our actions don't matter then why would God have given us commandments?
Wow - I'd love to hear his views on Catholicism
ruclips.net/video/R-RinxXFkS4/видео.html
@@datchet11 Thank you
MacArthur has plenty of videos on Catholicism. Just search RUclips for, "John MacArthur Catholicism".
Actually, you wouldn't, he is a hopeless bigot who lacks the faith necessary to achieve salvation. Don't waste your time
@@edwardgilson9891
Why should God let you into heaven?
I was saved from a secret sect/cult I was born and raised in and became a true born again Christian! Praise Jesus!!
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Clearly he’s purposely distorting LDS doctrine so as to mock it. Classic straw man arguments.
Then clarify. You just wasted a comment. You could have defended your religion.
What a strange video. Hmmm... "I would really like to learn about Muslims. I'll find a Hindu man with a distain for Muslims and ask him to teach me about their faith. Surely his ideas about Muslims will be accurate." Look, if you have a sincere desire to learn about someone else's faith just go talk to those people, or read their writings and books. It's not going to hurt you. In the end you might not agree with them but you will at least understand them and you might make a friend. (P.s. I am confident there are many good Hindus who are friends with Muslims. I only wanted to give an example of how weird this video is. No offense is intended toward Hindu people.)
I want to know if Islam is true. Should I ask a Muslim? I think you're missing the point; that being that Mormonism is a different Gospel that's not found in Scripture and MacArthur is pointing that out. That's what Christians are commanded to do--testify to the truth.
James
" What a strange video. Hmmm... "I would really like to learn about Muslims. I'll find a Hindu man with a distain for Muslims and ask him to teach me about their faith. "
Wow! Nice straw-man. Do you know what a pstor's job is?
God’s blueprint for building His church includes using men in the office of pastor. The pastor is first an elder, and, along with the other elders, the pastor is responsible to do the following:
1) Oversee the church (1 Timothy 3:1). The primary meaning of the word bishop is “overseer.” The general oversight of the ministry and operation of the church is the responsibility of the pastor and the other elders. This would include the handling of finances within the church (Acts 11:30).
2) Rule over the church (1 Timothy 5:17). The word translated “rule” literally means “to stand before.” The idea is to lead or to attend to, with an emphasis on being a diligent caretaker. This would include the responsibility to exercise church discipline and reprove those who err from the faith (Matthew 18:15-17; 1 Corinthians 5:11-13).
3) Feed the church (1 Peter 5:2). Literally, the word pastor means “shepherd.” The pastor has a duty to “feed the flock” with God’s Word and to lead them in the proper way.
4) Guard the doctrine of the church (Titus 1:9). The teaching of the apostles was to be committed to “faithful men” who would teach others also (2 Timothy 2:2). PRSERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE GOSPEL IS ONE OF THE PASTOR'S HIGHEST CALLINGS. The Epistles in the New Testamant are all addressing heresies that were creeping..
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
He spoke a lot of words to the kid but didn’t really give him any Scripture or Biblical tactics to win them to Jesus. This is where we’re at with our modern day “spitiual leaders”. Sad. Isaiah 8:20 “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”
Is this dude serious?! Misrepresentation and ignorance through the roof. He has zero understanding of the fundamental doctrines of LDS theology.
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The South Park episode sums it up pretty well.
I’m Mormon, but It doesn’t sound Christian for a “Christian” to bash on another person’s best effort to get back to God. He’s right, I did think I had to work my way into Heaven. Have I changed that view? Yes. I still go to the same church though.
God will sort it all out in the end. All Jesus asked us to do is love each other. SO WHY AREN’T WE DOING THAT???!!!
Don't listen to any other man only Jesus Christ is worthy to teach you. No church, No bible, No good deed, Nothing can save except for one thing. Knowing Jesus, receiving his Holy Spirit and following him until the end of your life. The Holy Spirit will tell you what to do, give you strength to do so, and comfort you and teach you, all supernaturally. Ask for the Holy Spirit because no man can enter heaven by the power of his own flesh but by receiving Jesus into his heart.
I’m sorry you were offended, I don’t think anyone meant to be mean. Yes loving one another most important… I came here because the Mormon Young men knock on my door so often and don’t believe as I do… I just wanted to learn more about that religion and how to handle without offense the young men . Yes the other commenter said prayer and asking for Holy Spirit guidance is probably what we both should do. I love you ❤️
Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave a religion! But do they have to degrade or put down something that they themselves are not willing to be a part of! We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets. If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants, we do not follow the counsel of the Prophets and Apostles! Choices can and will condemn us or Choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! they are removed or separated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! Not willing to live by their teachings! Why are they not willing to? Choose Wisely!
@@josephsarkes
JOSE WROTE:
" The Holy Spirit will tell you what to do, give you strength to do so, and comfort you and teach you, all supernaturally. Ask for the Holy Spirit because no man can enter heaven by the power of his own flesh but by receiving Jesus into his heart. "
The Holy Spirit does not speak on His own authority. He takes what Christ has declared and He declares it to us. In other words, the Holy Spirit will not go against the word of God. He won't tell you that the book of Mormon is true when it clearly contradicts God's revelation to us. To believer otherwise shows complete ignorance of God.
We don't ask for the Holy Spirit. We receive the Holy Spirit when we fully trust and believe in what Christ did for us on the cross, His works, His grace, His sacrifice, His righteousness is what saves us; not ours.
Mormonism teaches that Christ died needlessly because they teach we are saved by obedience to law. Jesus fulfilled the law and made it obsolete.
2 Nephi 30:1 (about 559-545 B.C.)
1 And now behold, my beloved brethren, I would speak unto you; for I, Nephi, would not suffer that ye should suppose that ye are more righteous than the Gentiles shall be. FOR BEHOLD, EXCEPT YE SHALL KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD YE SHALL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH; and because of the words which have been spoken ye need not suppose that the Gentiles are utterly destroyed.
Mosiah 12:31-33 (about 148 B.C.)
31 And it shall come to pass that ye shall be smitten for your iniquities, for ye have said that ye teach the law of Moses. And what know ye concerning the law of Moses? DOTH SALVATION COME BY THE LAW OF MOSES? WHAT SAY YE?
32 And they answered and said that SALVATION DID COME BY THE LAW OF MOSES.
33 But now Abinadi said unto them: I KNOW IF YE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD YE SHALL BE SAVED; yea, if ye keep the commandments which the Lord delivered unto Moses in the mount of Sinai, saying:
2 Nephi 4:4 (about 588 - 570 B.C.)
4 For the Lord God hath said that: INASMUCH AS YE SHALL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS YE SHALL PROSPER IN THE LAND; AND INASMUCH AS YE WILL NOT KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS YE SHALL BE CUT OFF FROM MY PRESENCE.
Mosiah 15:26 (about 148 B.C.)
26 But behold, and fear, and tremble before God, for ye ought to tremble; for the Lord redeemeth none such that rebel against him and die in their sins; yea, even all those that have perished in their sins ever since the world began, THAT HAVE WILFULLY REBELLED AGAINST GOD, THAT HAVE KNOWN THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND WOULD NOT KEEP THEM; THESE ARE THEY THAT HAVE NO PART IN THE FIRST RESURRECTION.
(Side note: What are Jews doing talking about the resurrection 150 years before Christ was born? Why is “willfully” misspelled in the most perfect book?)
3 Nephi 12:20 (about 34 A.D.)
20 Therefore come unto me and be ye saved; FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT YE SHALL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, WHICH I HAVE COMMANDED YOU AT THIS TIME, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
The Bible says:
Galatians 2:21
I do not nullify the grace of God, FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS WERE THROUGH THE LAW, THEN CHRIST DIED FOR NO PURPOSE.
Doctrines of Demons
1 Timothy 4:1-5
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times (latter-days) some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,
3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
D&C 89:12-15
12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.
14 All grain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
15 And these hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
I thought this guy’s entire presentation, at least in this excerpt was rude, disrespectful and insulting. I was baptized Mormon when I was 8. I fell away from all religion not long after that. I’m coming back, though and trying to find where I fit. Read the Bible last year, reading the BOM now. I don’t know if I’ll be a Mormon by the end of it. I’ll read D&C next and then the Pearl of Great Price. I’ll pray about it, and we’ll see if that’s where I end up. But, regardless of the outcome, this presentation really bothered me.
Mormons: "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly"
John MacArthur: "Mormons believe the Bible is corrupt" 🤣🤣
Being placed into the celestial, terrestrial telestial kingdom is not about the amount of works that you can do. It's about your willingness to be a representative and follower of God. Some people will follow good feelings only but reject Christ as the son of God. Some will accept and do as God, the Savior and the spirit but will not comply with all his commandments. We can not force our way into the celestial kingdom or any kingdom by actions alone. It's also matter of how much a person is willing to obey God, do his will and receive his grace.
Respectfully I would disagree with this in part... I think there are many problems in the LDS church... A long list. I am a cousin of the founder. And I think I am a Christian.
I believe that Christ is the creator not created, God almighty and the only God we have anything to do with. I don't buy into or care about the nonsense that is taught to the masses that "you too can become a God" that smacks of priestcraft ( practicing religion for power or money or both). I believe that the Bible contains the word of God and is superior to the Book of Mormon or any other scriptures. That we are saved by grace and that no amount of works we can do will get us into any heaven or kingdom even if we should work all our lives and that it is solely from the gift of Grace and the blood we are saved.
Yet I remain where I am for the moment hoping that I can draw others closer to Christ and his goodness waiting for God to show me my path. John 13:35
The LDS church are idol worshippers.. They worship their leaders as unable to "lead the church astray" and quote men rather than scripture at almost every conference and meeting. I know this as a recovering addict.. "Hi, I'm Randall and I am an LDS idolator".. ( I have served two missions for the LDS church)
God moved upon me some time ago (November) powerfully, and gave me a new heart and a new spirit, and new desires. He led me through my wife to listen to an amazing sermon from Grace Bible Church in Heber Utah and into a close friendship with Tim Cowell pastor.. a renewal of my spirit and I have never been the same and we spend 4 hours every Thursday in bible study (2 hours driving) and it's my favorite 4 hours weekly with my wife.
If you love your fellow man you have to love those who don't agree with you. You have to care about their welfare and about saving them. 80% of LDS who leave their church become atheists and that helps nobody, not you, not me, not them and especially not the Lord or the world.
I have read your books, listened to you, and preached from the MacArthur study bible at our meetings and from the pulpit. You are a master theologian but I think I could teach you something about reaching LDS and making converts to Christ.
LDS are so used to these ad-hominem attacks from birth that they roll off their/our backs like water off a duck, and everyone makes fun of us so your voice is just one more among the many that are ignored. (Try being in an infantry unit with a thousand men and wearing the only white strange underwear in the unit. I refused to give that up to fit in). That makes for strong convictions and if you can convert one sincere person to Christ that makes for a lasting conversion that come what may, they won't run away from what they believe no matter how hot the fires of opposition get. They become like you and stand for what is right, they keep churches open in the face of overwhelming opposition for example.
Most LDS people are sincere in their desires to follow Christ and to do the right thing. You don't give 10-20% of your income, wear funny underwear, spend hours in church weekly and some evenings, obey a strict law of chastity, a dietary code, and strict sabbath observance along with donating 2+ years of your life, and more to what you "think" is serving God without a very strong conviction. It is who you are, your identity, and your house of faith. It is like being born a Jew, a racial heritage that embodies who you are, your family relations, your social life and everything you do... where most Christians can change churches just like they change hats as easily and quickly.
Reaching them takes some finesse.
You can't burn down our/their house of faith before you give us a chance to move out.. Attacking any religion is not going to bring anyone to Christ or to keep them there in your church. It is akin to locking the doors and then throwing gas on the house with a match quickly following while the people are locked inside.. In fact, nothing will shut down the mind to further conversation and throw up a roadblock faster to further success or discussion in evangelism than attacking directly anyone's house of faith.
That doesn't mean you can't uphold truth and shed light on what is wrong while standing for Christ.
As a man of God, you can attack any and all false doctrines, you can address the nature of God, the role of Christ/God as creator and not created, and any other false belief and have great success if you can get people to open their hearts and to really think and to engage. If people feel that you love them (and are not contemptuous) then they listen. As they/we feel that Christ loves us and that we are getting closer to Christ (learning of him in ways we never imagined before) we want to hear more and a hunger for truth develops deep inside of us starting as mere embers and then becoming a raging fire.
The holy spirit testifies of truths that are shared by you and God draws us to him. Tim Cowell was very patient with me and with the 1,000 questions I had, he didn't push me or I would have never engaged. I never doubted he cared for me/us. His testimony of Christ brings tears to my eyes even now when I think about it.
When this happens...
We cast off that heart of stone and God replaces it with a heart of flesh, he gives us a new spirit and desire to do his works, he sprinkles us with water and then we are clean.. Saved by grace, redeemed by the blood, a new creature in Christ. Exekiel 36 24-29
In love your friend,
Randall
Incredible how much one man can lie and lead people away from the actual teachings of the church. I'd say this is at most 15% accurate and 85% lies or embellishment about Mormon belief. He obviously is afraid of people looking into it for themselves and instead declares us pagans instead of acknowledging our love for Christ and great effort to seek truth, not blindly, but through effort and faith in Christ alone. About any religion in the world, don't just listen to people who don't believe in it and their opinion, study and learn for yourself what to believe.
>Incredible how much one man can lie and lead people away from the actual teachings ...
You say he lies and throw around percentages.
Tell us HOW he lies, what are the falsehoods, what is not an accurate statement?
He didn't lie a single time. Mormonism is a false religion that was founded by an insane pedophile. The book of mormon is an anti-Biblical lie. Period.
Notice how you think this guy is lying but you don’t question Joseph smith, Brigham young or all the other leaders and events in Mormonism, he’s a theologian and speaking of Mormon theologically it is polytheistic multiple gods and multiple planets and heavens where god is a polygamist who begets his kin physically and spiritually looks like you haven’t looked into your own beliefs much my friend I was a Mormon missionary once so I understand the cognitive dissonance but at least study the subject thoroughly before judging I studied in depth for 4 years before leaving the church all being church approved by the way; it’s not hard to see it for the con it is if you actually put in effort instead of just reading the 2013 BOM and general conference talks
Joseph smith rough stone rolling is a great bio to start and written by the lead in the Joseph smith papers produced by the church and still active
And don’t get me started on the journal of discourses highlights
It’s a cult
Exactly!
He's trying to drive a wedge to make us not appear christian by altering what he was told by BYU brain trust. I would personally like to have had a recording of those discussions he had with church representatives. It is very clear that he didn't understand what he was told or was only hearing what he wanted to hear and is not willing to be forthright about what was said.
Just an FYI, virtually everything he said was wrong. One doesn't have to agree with Mormonism to recognize that this is one mistruth after another. From big doctrinal issues like grace is only used in the lowest "kingdom" - not even close to being LDS doctrine, to Bob Millet "writes all of their stuff on theology"... also not even close to true. Remember this folks, even though you may wholeheartedly disagree with Mormonism, propagating lies, mistruths, and distortions only promotes more division and undermines your reputation. You don't get a moral pass just because you're a christian to lie for the greater good about Mormons. Lying is lying.
I would never side with a person who inspires people to hate on those who belong to a church they choose to not be a part of.
100%
You totally missed the whole point.
You apply a subjective view towards Mormonism.
It's a false doctrine!
Teaches a false gospel.
Redefines words to mean something all together different to biblical doctrine.
Mormonism is a Cult, plain and simple.
It Teaches polytheism, that the men in Mormonism will become a god one day and populate their own planet.
Hate???
@@michelehunt7234 Yes, absolutely. It doesn't always have an angry face. Also, if we are simply saved since people from all sorts of Christian religions have been baptized and saved by grace, then his little speech has no purpose other than telling people that LDS = Bad. Followed by taking it upon himself to speak for Jesus Christ and tell people who will and will not go to hell. Please, step out of the position of hearing what you want to hear. Note that this is not something taught by LDS members about other Christians. By their fruits you will know them,my friend. This is a nice, calm, hateful and judgmental man.
……yep, this guy is a snake and is no better than the people he bashes.
THE MOST INCREDIBLE TESTIMONY EVER , on RUclips.Micah Wilder was fulfilling his two year commitment as a Morman Miassionary with his partner in the Orlando,Florida area,and one of the homes they stopped at was a Baptist Pastor,and after discussions with each others beliefs not only Micah`s life was changed dramatically,but also his dad who was a high priest in the Morman church and his mom who was a Professor at BYU!
May I ask you a question only because it seems you really liked Micha's story and I for sure did also because that man became a True Christian when leaving the Mormon church. Can you say in all certainty that you will go to Heaven when you die?
Excellent advice: "As a Christian you must distance yourself from Mormonism". Amen
why distance yorself from the Restored Church of Christ and the Covenant Path and Apostolic Authority.
Lest you actually get to know him and are only forced through virtue and wisdom to want to learn about his amazing childhood. That has thousands of texts around the world showing in ancient illuminated texts that are readily available online and in museums since a 1000 years ago. and make the coolest story ever,....im mean yea, who would want to learn how to love jesus anymore right'? Diffidently not a CHRISTian.....
@@LogosInsula and @DieWiederherstellung ....
Stop drinking the bath water.
@@rickdavis2235 is that what you do?
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I drink from the Living Water that is Christ Jesus.
As a Latter-day Saint (Mormons don't exist), this MacArther is blatantly lying and giving misinterpretations of Saint's beliefs. The Church of Christ, soon after renamed: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has never wavered, "closed any gaps," we have, from day one, testified that Jesus is the Christ, that Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ visited a young man in New York and called him to be a prophet and restore their church, which he did. We have always testified that Jesus Christ is the literal Son of God, our Savior and Redeemer. Latter-day Saints know there is only 1 Jesus Christ, who atoned for our sins and died on a cross for us, and was resurrected to a physical body that his apostles and disciples felt his nail prints, and returned with his physical body to his Father in Heaven. There is no other Jesus Christ. MacArthur lied that Saints all become gods, this is not our doctrine, we've never taught it, we believe what Jesus said: "ye are gods?" Jesus described theirs, and our potential, not that they were gods, as he and his father are. The apostle James clearly wrote that faith without works is dead and Paul wrote that grace commeth after our faith. None of us can save ourselves, only the Savior can save us, through his grace. Not a single Catholic or Protestant leader, or member of any kind, has ever testified of seeing Jesus Christ, or spoken to Him in any way. The rapid decline of non-Latter-day Saint Christianity is making most Christianity extinct, without any help from us. We need to love and serve one another, the kind of bigotry, hate and lies MacArthur shares do nobody any good.
His take is a weird mix of truth and half-truth sprinkled with condescension. No wonder he has such an unfavorable view of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. My advice is to come and see for yourself. Do the doctrine and you will know for yourself. No argument is ever stronger than the testimony born of the Holy Ghost. Learn for yourself. Then ask Heavenly Father for direction and understanding. Does anything else ever matter more than what He tells you?
God has spoken and you reject His revelation. Your feelings are irrelevant. The Muslim has feelings too, that doesn’t make their god real. Repent and turn to the true Christ as He has revealed Himself in the Holy Bible which has been preserved throughout all ages. Come to the faith “once for all delivered to the saints” Jude 1:3 come to the Church which the gates of hell will never prevail against like the false prophet Joseph Smith said they did. Come to the one and only true eternal God in repentance for your idolatry of imagining He is like you, a creature. Read Isaiah chapters 40-48 and ask yourself if that is the god you believe in.
If only you could find the truth.
Michael, if only you could find the truth.
Sorry he is on the money I was raised Mormon and it's not only a counterfeit but it's a cult if your in it get out and turn to the true Jesus of the Bible which is God Breathed the living word
First of all, if you have to compare your faith with another's faith then it isnt faith. If you rely on debunking another faith to justify your own, then it isnt faith. If you act like my faith is better than your faith then it isnt faith. It is EGO.
Lol you must be Mormon.😂😂
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Ok. So if someone comes along and says that they're faith in Jesus Christ says that they should drink, do drugs and have orgies, you're not going to rebuke them?
If that's true, you are of your own father the devil. Point blank.
So Muslims and Hindu and Catholics are right although they contradict each other ?
@@danieljust295 No, and yes. Religion is useful when it guides people to understanding and enlightenment. When it is used to make people feel some false sense of elitism, it becomes counterproductive to the growth of humanity. Icons of religion such as Jesus, and Budha knew this and tried to show a better way. Unfortunately, much of what they said was usurped and derailed by people using religion as a control method for the masses.
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If one is not searching for the truth, one will inevitably end up in a religion.
I am
A member of the LDS church, and it says that in the doctrine and covenants to never bash another church. This person is doing just that. Would jesus approve of his bashing other churches. We need different churches for different spiritual needs.
You can go to a different church every week to fulfill your own narratives?
You call it bashing when someone is warning you so that you do not go over the cliff when you die. I would call that someone who cares about your soul and it is out of love.
Tell that to Brad Wilcox who in his BYU adress said " all the other christian denominations are playing at going to church " !
Explanation of LDS Baptisms for the dead.
Jesus Christ taught that baptism is essential to the salvation of all who have lived on earth (see John 3:5). Many people, however, have died without being baptized. Others were baptized without proper authority. Because God is merciful, He has prepared a way for all people to receive the blessings of baptism. By performing proxy baptisms in behalf of those who have died, Church members offer these blessings to deceased ancestors. Individuals can then choose to accept or reject what has been done in their behalf.
Jesus Christ said, “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God” (John 3:5). Even Jesus Christ Himself was baptized (see Matthew 3:13-17).
Many people have lived on the earth who never heard of the gospel of Jesus Christ and who were not baptized. Others lived without fully understanding the importance of the ordinance of baptism. Still others were baptized, but without proper authority.
Because He is a loving God, the Lord does not damn those people who, through no fault of their own, never had the opportunity for baptism. He has therefore authorized baptisms to be performed by proxy for them.
A living person, often a descendant who has become a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is baptized in behalf of a deceased person. This work is done by Church members in temples throughout the world.
Some people have misunderstood that when baptisms for the dead are performed, deceased persons are baptized into the Church against their will. This is not the case. Each individual has agency, or the right to choose. The validity of a baptism for the dead depends on the deceased person accepting it and choosing to accept and follow the Savior while residing in the spirit world. The names of deceased persons are not added to the membership records of the Church.
The New Testament indicates that baptisms for the dead were done during the time of the Apostle Paul (see 1 Corinthians 15:29). This ordinance was restored with the establishment of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
If baptisms for the dead is commanded to be done in the bible, then why do Christians of many faiths today deny the work for their Ancestors?
Im a latter day saint ...and im proud of it...sorry but ... Best church ever! A lot of opinion and misinformation here! Find out for yourself!
Galatians 1:8/9 tells me all I need to know about your blasphemous practices
I feel like he didn't help the kid with his question lol
Obviously.
MacArthur told him at the end how he should proceed. Either you didn't listen to the end or are just butt hurt about what he said.
Power and control = a great number of so called Religions.
And how be it my church save it be called in my name? For if a church be called in Moses’ name then it be Moses church, or if it be called in the name of a man then it be the Church of a man; but if it be called in my name then it is my church if it so be that they are built upon my gospel.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the Saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus;
Ephesians 2:19-20 it talks about built upon the foundation of apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. In verse 19 Now, therefore, ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God. In
Psalm 50:5 Gather my Saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with my by Sacrifice.
Psalm 149:1 Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.
So if it is Jesus Christ church then what is it called?
What is the foundation of his Church?
What are the members called?
Add up the clues!
3 Nephi 27:8-10 +Ephesians 1:1 + Ephesians 2:19-20 +Psalm 50:5 + Psalm 149:1=
Add these verses up and what do you get?
It is not confusing! You just have to do the research!
2Peter 3; The Bible is a WAR Zone, Luther said James was "Straw" because he didn't like what it taught, Peter even warns us about the writings of Paul. The Bible is written to be read and understood, Why stick your entire understanding on a few lines of Paul
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
the unlearned and unstable are still in wrest with not the Bible but with there interpretation of it to their own destruction
“Those people”. Wow, that’s a true Christian attitude and not bigoted at all. But the real sign for me was the attitude of these supposed preachers of Christ mocking another religious group like they are some kind of freaks.
Very telling of your true nature which is not Christ’s nature. Matthew 15:8 comes to mind. “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.”
“As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!” (Gal 1:9, NASB)
Amen. And the perversion of my beliefs coming out of this man's mouth in response to a genuine question makes me so sad. Fortunately, even if he knows he is spreading lies about what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes, he too can be covered by the Grace of our Lord and Savior. That's the beautiful thing about what we call the Atonement of Jesus Christ. It covers us all, whether we accept His sacrifice on our behalf or not. It doesn't bother me, these lies I heard. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear will recognize Truth. By their fruits you will know them!
I believe the Jesus Christ of the Bible, which is definitely a different Jesus Christ than what you believe. Jesus Christ said that he and God are two separate men. "Is it not written in your Law that the testimony of two men is true? I am one who witnesses of myself, and my Father who sent me, he witnesses of me." This alone destroys the Trinitarian Jesus Christ of the traditions of man. But there's more. God called men gods, not wicked men acting as false gods, but those who had received his word, and he called them Children Of God. And Jesus Christ affirmed this when he said "If he called them gods unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" We are told that it is impossible for God to lie, we are told repeatedly that there is only one God, so when God calls his righteous followers gods(plural), even if they weren't gods before, God spoke it into existence. So how can there only be one God and have men who have become gods, and not have one or the other be false? Just as Man can be plural in reference to mankind, so God is plural, encompassing many gods of multiple generations all working as a single entity. "That they may be one, as we are." "That they also may be one in us." For we are told in both the Old and New Testaments that we will inherit all things. That includes the ability to make worlds and put plants, animals and people on them. And God doesn't do anything in vain, if he gives someone something, then he expects them to use it. I will go with the Jesus Christ of the Bible, and not the Trinity created by wicked men.
@MZT So you believe that God and Jesus Christ lied, or the Bible has major theological errors that predate, but weren't corrected by, the Nicean Councils? Or will you believe that men made mistakes or intentionally misled people? The word Trinity appears nowhere in any translation of a Bible except footnotes. But Godhead is in the text. Search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life, and they testify of the true nature of the Godhead. "Duorum Hominum"(where we get hominid and human) is the Latin Catholic text of John 8: 17. Don't hate God because he blinded men from removing all his truth. The Bible is my friend. But the Bible is far from my only friend, for I have friends that clearly you don't know. One stands at the door knocking, waiting for you to open, so He can introduce you to His Father also.
@@bartonbagnes4605 Part of the problem is that you do not know or understand the doctrine of the Trinityy as taught be Christianity. . Simply put it teaches that within the unity of the one Diety (one God)there are three separate Persons (not 3 Gods as in Mormonism) who are coequal in power, nature, and eternity. "In the beginning was the Word, (Jesus is the Word) and the Word was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God" Not "a" God but the one God.
@@wightman1525 I understand the doctrine of the Trinity very well, that's how I know the Bible disproves it. I have read the Apostolic Creed, the Nicean Creed and the Athanasian Creed. Yes one God, three persons, yet only one of those persons took on human form. Yet Jesus says that he and his Father are two separate men in John 8: 17-18, which by itself destroys the Trinity. But the Trinity disproves itself with conflicting statements, whether the 325 A.D. version or the 381 A.D. version or the 451 A.D. version. For all three say that Jesus Christ was not made, and then they say that Jesus Christ was made a man. In the Athanasian Creed it says that God is unchanging, yet the Nicean Creed says he became man or incarnate or was made man, depending on the translation into english. In the Athanasian Creed it says that Jesus Christ was begotten by the Father alone, by taking humanity unto himself, not by turning his divinity into flesh. And it says that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully Man, but the Father is only fully God, and therefore superior. Yet Jesus Christ said that he and the Father are both men, or in the Latin Duorum(2) Hominum, where we get hominid and human. In the Nicean Creed and more especially in the Athanasian Creed it insists that there is only one God, God the Father , God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, yet all one God, and that's understandable, since God said "I the Lord God am God alone, there was none formed before me nor any formed after, beside me I know no other." However this God, who according to the Old Testament" cannot lie." and according to the New Testament "it is impossible for him to lie.", called men, not just any men, righteous men who had received his word, he called them gods, making them gods in truth, even if they weren't before, speaking it into existence, for he cannot lie. So the insistence that God the Father and God Yahweh his Son, have to be the same being gets thrown out the window. But the Bible already gives us an example of how both statements, one God and men made into gods, can be true. "Therefore shall a man leave mother and father and cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh." They don't merge into one body upon marriage nor does one or both being barren mean that they don't become one flesh. Just like in John 17, when we become one as Jesus and God are one, when we become one with them, we don't become part of them, but each keeps their own resurrected body, just like Jesus Christ did, and like God did before him, "Everything I see my Father do, that I do also." "Being in the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person." "Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God." " But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death" " Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they." How could Jesus Christ obtain a more excellent name by inheritance, if he was already the Most High God before he was made flesh? Everything about the Trinity is an abomination to the word of God(The Bible). For it is abundantly clear that God is plural for Godkind, many gods of multiple generations, yet all the one true God. We will inherit all things, all powers, all principalities and all the works of God. And God doesn't give us his power to create worlds and populate them in vain. Like fathers everywhere, God expects us to join him in the family business, to carry on his work.
John MacArthur: I believe the Apostle Paul may have been the first Mormon! 1. He believed there were three Heavens. 2 Corinthians 12:2 “I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.”
2. He believed in three degrees of glory in the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:40 (AKJV) “There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead.”
3. He believed in baptism for the dead. 1 Corinthians 15:29 (AKJV) “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”
4. He believed in temple worship. Acts 22:17 (AKJV) “And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance; 18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me. 19 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: 20 And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. 21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.”
5. He believed that one should work out his own salvation. Philippians 2:12 (AKJV) “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”
Paul did not believe in any of that.
1. Paul is not saying that there are three heavens or even three levels of heaven. In many ancient cultures, people used the term heaven to describe three different “realms”-the sky, outer space, and then a spiritual heaven. Paul was saying that God took him to the “spiritual” heaven-the realm beyond the physical universe where God dwells. The concept of different levels of heaven may have come in part from Dante’s The Divine Comedy in which the poet describes both heaven and hell as having nine different levels. The Divine Comedy, however, is a fictional work. The idea of different levels of heaven is foreign to Scripture.
2. Paul never said to baptize for the dead. Even pagans believe in a resurrection.
The whole chapter is about the surety of the resurrection.
1 Corinthians 15:29: “Otherwise, what will THEY do, those being baptized on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not at all raised, why indeed are THEY baptized on behalf of the dead?” We do know by comparing it with the rest of Scripture that it does not mean that a dead person can be saved by someone else being baptized on his or her behalf, because baptism is not a requirement for salvation in the first place (Ephesians 2:8; Romans 3:28; 4:3; 6:3-4). The entire passage (vv. 12-29) is about the surety of the resurrection, not about baptism for the dead.
The plain meaning of the Greek in verse 29 is that some people are being baptized on behalf of those who have died-and if there is no resurrection, why are they doing this? Paul is referring to a pagan custom (notice he uses "THEY," not "we").
Either way, he certainly does not approve of the practice; he merely says that if there is no resurrection, why would the custom take place?
The Mormon practice of baptism for the dead is neither scriptural nor sensible. Baptism for the dead is a practice that was common in the pagan religions of Greece and is still practiced today by some cults; but it doesn’t change a person’s eternal destiny, for that is determined while he lives (Luke 16:26).
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
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3. The words: degrees, heaven, telestial, three and levels are nowhere to be found in the chapter. There is a unique beauty/glory of things that God has created in the heavens and a unique beauty/glory of things that God has created on the earth.
Nothing about LDS men getting their own planet. Nothing about sex trafficking in heaven. Nothing about women serving as sex objects for LDS men who happen to get to the 'top level.' Nothing about God damning people who deny the 'eternal principle of polygamy.'
Heaven is not a house of horrors. The word heaven is not even in the passage!
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
4. God has commanded that there be only one temple and it must be in Jerusalem.
Very true.
5. You have to be saved first before you can work anything out.
Remember, you have an infinitely holy and righteous God to convince that you are right. Not an exalted man from another planet. You will be without excuse.
Faye Lewis: “Paul did not believe in any of that. 1. Paul is not saying that there are three heavens or even three levels of heaven. In many ancient cultures, people used the term heaven to describe three different “realms”-the sky, outer space, and then a spiritual heaven. Paul was saying that God took him to the “spiritual” heaven-the realm beyond the physical universe where God dwells.” 2 Corinthians 12:2 (AKJV) “I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.” “The Greek word οὐρανός is transliterated to ouranós (G3772) the English translation is “the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity).” [Strong’s Concordance] Twice the Apostle Paul saw Jesus Christ after his resurrection. Acts 26:12 (AKJV) “Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, 13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. 14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; 17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, 18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.” Acts 22:17 (AKJV) “And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance; 18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.” Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.” Jesus Christ abides with the Father in Heaven.
“We do know by comparing it with the rest of Scripture that it does not mean that a dead person can be saved by someone else being baptized on his or her behalf, because baptism is not a requirement for salvation in the first place (Ephesians 2:8; Romans 3:28; 4:3; 6:3-4).” What does Salvation accomplish for you? It merely saves you from the Second death and Lake of fire. Revelation 20:14 (AKJV) “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” It does not give you a place in the kingdom of God. That requires washing (baptism), sanctification (cleansing), and justification (reconciliation). 1 Corinthians 6:9 (AKJV) “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” Matthew 18:18 (AKJV) “Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” The 12 Apostles were given the right to bind or loose ordinances (marriages, baptisms, etc.) of the gospel here on earth for those in Heaven. 1 Corinthians 15 is about the doctrine of the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:29 (AKJV) “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?” That verse clearly shows the Corinthians were practicing baptisms for the dead! “Paul is referring to a pagan custom (notice he uses "THEY," not "we"). Either way, he certainly does not approve of the practice; he merely says that if there is no resurrection, why would the custom take place?” The Apostle Paul’s mortal ministry was from 35 A.D. to 65 A.D. and the term “pagan” was first used in the 4th Century A.D. “Paganism (from classical Latin pāgānus "rural", "rustic", later "civilian") is a term first used in the fourth century by early Christians for people in the Roman Empire who practiced polytheism[1] or ethnic religions other than Judaism.” [Wikipedia/Paganism/Introduction]
“The words: degrees, heaven, telestial, three and levels are nowhere to be found in the chapter. There is a unique beauty/glory of things that God has created in the heavens and a unique beauty/glory of things that God has created on the earth.” 1 Corinthians 15:40 (AKJV) “There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead.” You may access 60 English Language Versions of the Bible at www.biblegateway.com including the Authorized King James Version of the Bible. Obviously, the glory of the sun varies in degree with the moon and with the stars.
“Nothing about LDS men getting their own planet. Nothing about sex trafficking in heaven. Nothing about women serving as sex objects for LDS men who happen to get to the 'top level.' Nothing about God damning people who deny the 'eternal principle of polygamy.'
Heaven is not a house of horrors. The word heaven is not even in the passage!” Our complete doctrine/scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is found in the Standard Works of that Church. Doctrine & Covenants/Introduction: “The book of Doctrine and Covenants is one of the standard works of the Church in company with the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Pearl of Great Price.” You may review any of these at www.churchofjesuschrist.org. Our doctrine/scripture does not discuss any of these things (own planet, sex trafficking in Heaven, women as sex objects, or damning people who deny the 'eternal principle of polygamy). Thanhs for providing 1 Corinthians 15:39 - 42 which provides proof resurrection will be into resurrected bodies which vary in the degrees of glory!
4. “God has commanded that there be only one temple and it must be in Jerusalem. Very true.” Revelation 11:19 (AKJV) “And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.”
5. “You have to be saved first before you can work anything out.” Not according to the Apostle Paul. Philippians 2:12 (AKJV) “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” Salvation is what we need to work out!
“Remember, you have an infinitely holy and righteous God to convince that you are right. Not an exalted man from another planet. You will be without excuse.” Was not Jesus Christ a resurrected man? Romans 5:18 (AKJV) “Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.”
@@dleoburns
Wow David.... quite a lengthy response. Notice how Mormonism requires paragraphs of philosophical assumptions and conjecture to make a simple little verse fit their beliefs? This is the confusion of a natural man.
By the way, there is a lot in Mormon literature about Mormons getting their own planets, although the church is backing off because of how foolish it sounds, but then, Joe wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when he was inventing his own religion. These examples are just a few of many of the teaching of getting their own planets or worlds.
“Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people.” (“. . . the Matter of Marriage” [address delivered at University of Utah Institute of Religion, 22 Oct. 1976], 2).
What is particularly significant about this Spencer Kimball quote is that it is included in three different current LDS manuals:
1. Chapter 4: Teaching Children: from Four to Eleven Years,” A Parent’s Guide. This manual is for parents teaching their young children. They even put the quote under the section, “Teach Children to Accept and Understand Their Gender Roles.”
2. Doctrine and Covenants and Church History Seminary Teacher Resource Manual - Introduction. This manual is for teachers of high schoolers.
3. Doctrines of the Gospel Student Manual - Chapter 10. This manual is for college students.
“We educate ourselves in the secular field and in the spiritual field so that we may one day create worlds, people and govern them.” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], 386).
Joseph Fielding Smith
“The Father has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the fullness of his kingdom. In other words, we will have the privilege of becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and have jurisdiction over worlds, and these worlds will be peopled by our own offspring.” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 2:48, quoted in Achieving a Celestial Marriage Student Manual, 1976, p.132)
5th President Lorenzo Snow
2nd President Brigham Young
“All those who are counted worthy to be exalted and to become Gods, even the sons of God, will go forth and have earths and worlds like those who framed this and millions on millions of others.” (Journal of Discourses 17:143)
Apostle Moses Thatcher
“Each God, through his wife or wives, raises up a numerous family of sons and daughters; indeed, there will be no end to the increase of his own children: for each father and mother will be in a condition to multiply forever and ever. As soon as each God has begotten many millions of male and female spirits, and his Heavenly inheritance becomes too small, to comfortably accommodate his great family, he, in connection with his sons, organizes a new world, after a similar order to the one which we now inhabit, where he sends both the male and female spirits to inhabit tabernacles of flesh and bones. Thus each God forms a world for the accommodation of his own sons and daughters who are sent forth in their times and seasons, and generations to be born into the same. The inhabitants of each world are required to reverence, adore, and worship their own personal father who dwells in the Heaven which they formerly inhabited.” (The Seer, 37, March 1853)
“Exalted parents are to their children as our Eternal Parents are to us. Eternal increase, a continuation of the seeds forever and ever, eternal lives - these comprise the eternal family of those who gain eternal life. For them new earths are created, and thus the on-rolling purposes of the Gods of Heaven go forward from eternity to eternity.” (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Millennial Messiah, 23, 1982)
LDS Church Manuals
“To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted” (Gospel Fundamentals [2001], 201).
“And so through the power of the priesthood the man has the opportunity of obtaining that degree of perfection by which he may create worlds and populate them with his own offspring” (Patriarch Eldred G. Smith, BYU Speeches of the Year, March 10, 1964, p.7).
“Those who live worthy to become gods (D&C 132:20) will live as husbands and wives eternally and will have the blessing of ‘eternal increase,’ in other words, of having unlimited number of spirit children. Spirit children will be born to them as offspring (Acts 17:28-29), just as we were to our heavenly parents (Hebrews 12:9). This is also referred to as ‘a continuation of the seeds forever and ever’ (D&C 132:19). As gods, they will create worlds for their spirit children and send them through the same ‘great plan of happiness’ (Alma 42:8) that the Father has in place for us” (David R. Ridges, Mormon Beliefs and Doctrines Made Easier, p.88).
Rick Davis: “By the way, there is a lot in Mormon literature about Mormons getting their own planets, although the church is backing off because of how foolish it sounds, but then, Joe wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when he was inventing his own religion.” The complete doctrine/scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the standard works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Doctrine & Covenants/Introduction/paragraph #3: “The book of Doctrine and Covenants is one of the standard works of the Church in company with the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Pearl of Great Price.” There are no scriptures about members receiving their own planets.
The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 2:48, Journal of Discourses 17:143, The Seer, 37, March 1853, Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Millennial Messiah, 23, 1982, LDS Church Manuals, Gospel Fundamentals [2001], 201, BYU Speeches of the Year, March 10, 1964, and David R. Ridges, Mormon Beliefs and Doctrines Made Easier, p.88 are not found in the standard works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints which means they were not received by common consent of that Church! Doctrine & Covenants 28:13 “For all things must be done in order, and by common consent in the church, by the prayer of faith.”
He does not speak the truth! Is he really speaking of things he doesn't know just to be seen as an expert? The LDS people do not speak falsely about his ministry...perhaps he is feeling threatened because the LDS know the truth...Do not judge is one if the 10 commandments...what's this preacher doing but judging others..
I have a lot of respect for John MacArthur for not closing his church during the COVID lockdowns. But ironically his attack on Latter-day Saints here for not being Christians does not seem Christlike. Folks from BYU compliment MacArthur by having their students read his book, and he treats that with contempt. I found that reaction puzzling. If He were here, I don’t see Jesus responding to Mormons like this. I’m reminded of when the disciples came and complained that they had found people casting out devils in Jesus’ name. He told them forbid them not. (Luke 9:49-50) Likewise, I think of the Savior’s interactions with Samaritans, who did have some false beliefs. He didn’t condone the false beliefs, but reached out in love.
My Bible tells me in Revelations there is neither male nor female in Heaven. We are given new bodies, celestial bodies. Of course there is no sex in Heaven, no marriage. Huge problem solved! Thank you Father!
Just polygamy if youre a mormon
@@JamesW225 there better be sex in heaven!
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Jesus did not stop being a man after the resurrection, we will have a body like his, maybe our sex drive will not exist in heaven, but we will still be male and female, even some of the Angels (Angels are all males) are were capable of falling from heaven and mating with women in Genesis chapter 6,
I don't think there is Biblical evidence to support your statements. Marriage in heaven is Christ and the church, not men and women, you are right on this though.
There is neither male or female in heaven??? You got wrong ,,what is this resurrected christ,his celestialized body,male or female???celestial body means in its absolute or perfect form not to be corrupted anymore..you neither know the power of god omnipotent..he is our father who is always ready to give our inheritance through obedience and faith,we must prove ourselves worthy to receive it..the sweetest god can give to us through christ is that to receive a right to become a true race of god,,men may become true god but they must know how to revere those gods who helped them obtain it,without so doing this they are still evil,fake gold..
no sex? what a sad world
"we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins." 2 Nephi 25:26
Concerning Joseph Smith and the angel moroni,,,.............Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed
Do preachers who preach for money (aka filthy lucre) sometimes speak nasty of other churches because they feel threatened that they will lose their revenue base?
Well I do think we will be single in heaven. Jesus himself said they neither marry nor are given in marriage. Thank God we will have a fellowship with him more satisfying than any marriage.
A) The line "given in marriage" implies He is referring to arranged institutionalized marriages, not marriage from love.
B) Adam had fellowship with God in Eden, God said he was alone and needed a partner.
Christian Knickerbocker: The Apostles were given the right to bind or loose marriages and other ordinances on earth and in Heaven. Matthew 18:18 (AKJV) “Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
@@InitialPC Jesus himself could correct your misunderstanding and you would still argue with Him.
matthew 18:18
proves you wrong.
matthew 18:18
“Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” “I tell you the truth, whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.”
if you are bound together on earth by the power of the priesthood, you will remain together in heaven.
"Jesus himself said they neither marry nor are given in marriage"
you misunderstand what jesus was saying.
jesus was talking to people who did not believe the gospel ... therefor they did not get married by the power of the holy priesthood ... therefor their marriage was not bound in heaven.
@@grayman7208 I don't think the first part is referring to marriage, and the verse is finished with what God has bound together let no one separate but it could be argued that this is compatible with singleness in Heaven as it would be God separating them not people.
It 'would be interesting to be at the LDS event where their old graying, receding hairline "suit and tie" guys were up on stage having belly laughs and recounting that meeting they once had with John MacArthur.
😂😂JACK ASS JOHN!!!
Really. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a prophet of God
@@Moose46316 Ya, ok, sure buddy. Keep reading the Blue Comic Book.
@Bret ave Never read the blue comic book, but I have read the Book of Mormon. As a Christian, aren't you taught not to make fun of things that others hold sacred?
@@Moose46316 I’ll answer that as a Christian. No. We are taught not to trifle with things that are actually sacred. A book is not sacred just because someone believes it is. A religious practice is not sacred just because someone believes it to be. Elijah mocked the false prophets of Baal when they failed to summon their gods. We don’t ridicule for ridicule’s sake, but we might do it if it helps someone to see the absurdity of their position and turn them toward the true God. Mocking correctly is difficult and may not be appropriate most of the time, but sometimes it is.
Alot of what you guys are saying is so not true! Why don't you go about teaching the good word instead if spending all this time running down our religion which only goes about trying to make people better snd closer to Christ. Also we are not Mormons. We belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and I am indeed a Christian. I know and love my Heavenly Fathey and my Saviour and you or nobody can tell me otherwise! We also believe the Bible to be true as far as it is translated correctly.
CHRIST CONQUERS ALL
The man in the gray suit clearly misunderstands the core of both Mormanism and Christianity. His comprehension is based entirely on the literate and mythological level.
Although I agree with many things that this guy said however anyone that makes fun of another person’s religion is committing a sin
And when he does that to puff his own self up It makes you wonder if I can trust him with anything else
> anyone that makes fun of another person’s religion is committing a sin
really? where is that stated?
You are joking right
@@missouri6014 i asked questions. if you are you unable to answer just say so.
otherwise, no I wasn't kidding.
How is he making fun of LDS/Mormonism? He is simply stating the truth. Please listen to this again. The Mormon beliefs are NOT Biblical.
Missouri
" Although I agree with many things that this guy said however anyone that makes fun of another person’s religion is committing a sin "
Where in Missouri are you? I was born in Arizona, grew up in the KC suburbs and now call south Texas my home.
The Scriptures are full of verses that command us to testify to the truth and to rebuke those who contradict it.
Titus 1:9
He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
1 Peter 3:15
but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
2 Timothy 4:2
preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.
Titus 1:13
This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
Titus 2:15
Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.
Jude 1:3
Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.
False religions lead people after other gods.
The arrogance of supposed intellect that is sanctimoniously delivered in this 6 minute session is erroneous and misleading. I've been an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints my entire life and most of what he answered is twisted rhetoric, misconstrued dialogue, and a frankly disrespectful and poor delivery of teachings of the gospel of Jesus Christ as found in our articles of faith. How misleading and irreverent are his attempts to dissuade and muddy the actual things we believe. Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and there can be no other. There is one faith one lord one baptism.
I'm no Mormon at all. However, that stuck being single maybe not so bad.
Hahaha. I'm Mormon, and don't think that the staying single forever part is true. I haven't really heard of that topic being discussed in Church.
I think if Jesus were here, he’d have to tell the parable of the “Good Mormon” as many Christians seem to think as poorly of us as the Pharisees thought of the Samaritans. Which was neighbor? I think Jesus Christ will look at those issues more than who had the better interpretation of scripture.
By their fruits ye shall know them.
Good example. As long as you seek God’s mercy through Jesus Christ you will be saved. Then you simply take that mercy you were shown & show it to others. This is how the justified live. Knowing they are justified by the grace of God, they freely love others. This is how to be genuine & not a hypocrite.
Oh Please Open Your Eyes 👀 and Brain 🧠
As Jesus said to Saul, Saul why do you persecute me?
Jesus also said: in the last days many false prophets will go out and decieve many by teaching doctrines made by DEMONS. He also said that the Bible is complete and anyone who adds or takes away from it will be cursed. We are not persecuting Jesus, we are persecuting the devil! Your eyes are blind and you refuse to see the truth! You reject sound doctrine for what someone created 200 years ago. Why don't Mormons pass out bibles? Instead they pass out the book of mormon
Saul was persecuting actual Christians and Saul was the same one who said "if I or any other apostle or even angel gives you a gospel that was not in the Bible do not believe them." You people are lost. He also said people will reject sound doctrine for doctrines made by demons
We don’t preach another Jesus. Common fallacy. The Book of Mormon talks about the same resurrected Jesus. The same Jesus appeared to Joseph Smith. I guess it is really a thing where if you disagree we become demon worshipers. Odd how it gets that evil that quickly. Fruits!! Look at the fruits my friends. Or find what you are looking for with your bias.
“Religion was invented when the first conman met the first fool”.
Mark Twain
"Religion" means to "re-connect"; Religion is man's attempt to reconnect with God. Jesus is God's attempt to reconnect with man. Christians, therefore, do not can Christianity a "religion". It's understanding God's love for us.
religion is power over weak minds..and that's why conmen love religion.
@@johnsweeney6672 Perfect clarity.
"My Father's Kingdom has many mansions"
@Fred the 47th Why do evangelicals go around claiming to be Christians when they so clearly aren't?
Don't confuse me. I'm still trying to figure out how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.
It depends on the color of your pin head!...
Don’t worry about that
It is simple, not confusing! Why do they leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? because they do not believe the doctrine, are not willing to live by the teachings, do not know the teaching, or perhaps they are offended by someone, there are millions of reasons why people leave a religion! But do they have to degrade or put down something that they themselves are not willing to be a part of? Jesus Christ established his Gospel with 12 Apostles and Prophets. His established organization, called in his name, with his ordinances and covenants! We have the choice to live His Gospel, keep his ordinances and Covenants, and follow the Apostles and Prophets. If we choose not to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ we void the Blessing of the ordinances and covenants, we do not follow the counsel of the Prophets and Apostles! What are the results of choosing not to? What are the results of choosing to live the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Choices can and will condemn us or Choices can bless us for eternity! If you look up in the dictionary the term EX means to remove or separate from! With that term, they are removed or separated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! Not willing to live by their teachings! Why are they not willing to? Choose Wisely!
@@Christianchoose Mormons are deceitful. They come to our villages and say they are just another denomination. They will use a Christian bible initially in their discussion. Later in their church services they will teach the Christian church is apostate, the Bible has been corrupted (without proof like the Muslims) and pull out the book of Mormon.
This deception is like the Islamic principle of Taqqiyat.
As a Member of The Church of JESUS Christ of Latter day Saints, slang (Mormon). Not a single concept was explained correctly out of this man's mouth. Litterally not one. If you wpuld like to know what we believe I will deffer you to the Articles of Faith. 1-13 A quick google search should pop up.