Kaela treats Biboo as an equal. She knows she can and will do it, and she'll get the good memories of it getting. She just has less expectation for the others, and understand some won't be willing to invest all that time to get it. I understand she's sad the clip didn't tell they got it together.
@@hello-im This, this is why I don't like inside jokes that portrays any single member as bad, because freaking clip watchers will take it out of context and thinks that they're actually bad. Case on point, significant clip watchers actually thought that Miko's Japanese is bad, even tho she freaking speaks perfect native level Japanese and the only thing making her hard to understand is her baby tongue. It is really frustrating to see as a JP speaker myself. Other example is "Fuwawa evil twin", it's fun and all for people who know that it's just a joke, but some clip watchers think that Fuwawa is actually toxic, and I was like, TF? Have you seen when Mococo messed her noodle and Fuwawa just told her to leave it there cause she'll take care of it later? She's so damn sweet to her lil sister, she LOVES Mococo. It's just... man, It's frustrating.
@@SpawnofHastur yeah? well im gonna fight you then cause that penguin joke was literally made in heaven, it's just so perfect man. Kovalskia (kowalski),black white outfit,cool (cute) as a penguin,just look at that man
I can see her struggle. the misunderstanding that could happen. it's funny how when she gives a lot of thing to someone, some people say "Please let them get it by themself, you are ruining their experience". and then when she taught them the experience of getting one, some people say "Why didn't u just give her right away?"
Yes, some people might prefer the experience of working for things themselves. But there are many others who would just like to build cool stuff with cool materials and aren't particularly interested in going on an epic and arduous adventure for it. If they tried to grind themselves, they may find it boring or too difficult and give up without ever experiencing many fun parts of the game. Its those people that Kaela wants to help the most. I think she can tell when somebody is more hardcore and would rather do things themselves.
The fact that she is doing it for them at all is a rarity in Hololive, you never see a member that grinds and helps as much as Kaela. I can't understand why or how anyone could say that's a bad thing because she makes minecraft a lot more fun for the members who want to be guided, she doesn't force herself on anyone.
it's like when you do part of the group assignment but people in your group say you did nothing as a meme and you go along with it 'cause it's funny. but suddelny people from outside of the group start repeating it without knowing the context and they end up thinking that you really did nothing, it feels kinda bad
There was also the context that this was a short hardcore server, where they had a limited amount of lives, she had already told Hajime to stay alive, Kaela had already taken Haachama to the nether, and felt responsibility for Haachama's death, as well as feeling sad that she could no longer get revived, it affected her to the point that she refused to go with Kiara to a Bastion because of how dangerous they are, and she would not be responsible for anyone else. So it was a surprise that Kaela did go back to the nether with Hajime, but she made sure she was totally prepared that time and guided Hajime through the 'orange juice' So yes, Kaela helped Hajime get the netherite armor carefully guiding her through the nether, and providing her own diamonds for the templates, and yes she provides a lot of guidance and assistance to Hajime, and even sold her a totem for cheap But in doing all of that, Hajime survived to the very end. With Biboo, the sever is very different, there was no pressure to survive, and as Kaela says, she didn't need to just give the things to Biboo as they went together to collect them, and the reality is, when Kaela is giving gifts of items to other Holomem, it is because she isn't having those collabs with them, so I would say that Biboo came out with something more valuable. Honestly I would like to see Kaela and Hajime collab more after this, have Kaela give Hajime the Biboo treatment by taking her out and training her, have her get her own wings, and turn her into a sweaty minecraft player
Dude I also want to see Kaela guides the entire ReGloss to find elytra, just like she did with Irys, Kronii, and Lui back then... Even tho it gets overshadowed by Hajimya's moment, Kaela actually really had great interactions as well with the rest of ReGloss in HC, from helping Ririka who get lost and helping to revive her, enjoying Raden's full of sugar happiness, to aiding Kanade and Ao plenty of times....
Yeah she had great interactions with so many people on the Hardcore server, it's been mentioned many times, but proximity mod really helped bring that server to life and gave rise to so many interactions we wouldn't normally get.
Maybe the one thing that is hindering them from doing it is the language barrier, bec. ye Ririka can be the middle man right? But it will be just an interaction like Kirara translating stuff for Gura or Ame.. U kno bec. Nihongo is yet to become jozou. But with Biboo, the sky is the limit coz Biboo too can speak a lil Thai, it is wut it is, maybe in the future, when they solve this issue, then it will become a reality. The bantering is wut many find entertaining bec. u kno.. when u have friends, it's the experience of socializing in a non superficial way by making them annoyed or vise versa is the thing that gets u close.
Biboo is more special, because Kaela wants memories with Biboo through adventures and discoveries... Kaela doesn't want Biboo to look at her as a NPC, she wants Biboo to look at her as adventure companion to share laughs and bweh as long as possible... She did as well with Hajime and probably Hajime didn't know that Kaela gave several free netherite...
This. I agree to this. She is so used being a god in mc. She deserves to have memories and a adventure companion or even an apprentice for other people to rely on Biboo too in the future.
What it is with all members is that she wants to encourage holomems to play MC more and she feels like if they go and get things like elytra’s as opposed to receiving them as gifts, they’ll be more encouraged to keep playing
People seeing Kaela giving "different treatment" to Hajimya probably must have to do with language barrier, I am sure if Hajimya is fluent in English Kaela would like to teach her and guide her in same way as Biboo to gain better experience, not to mention we all know Kaela is quite shy around JP members..
I think only if You have one or two neurons... I'm a clip only watcher and i'm smart enough to know that this is nothing more than banter and just joking around... I don't think Vtuber followers are as dumb as children... Right?
No, it is not the clippers duty to present every nuance of a story, that's why it's called a "clip". It is supposed to be a short snip-it of a bigger whole, which means context will be lost. Instead of blaming clippers, you should be blaming viewers for jumping to conclusions based on a clip.
@@Joel-kw7jf Who's blaming who? Also, being a short snip-it clip and adding context ARE NOT mutually exclusive. You can add small context via text. For people who want to read it, they can pause to read. And I'm only pertaining to clippers who INTENTIONALLY mislead viewers into misunderstanding.
Kaela is a bit hard on Biboo because her belief in her is so high. Kaela wants to challenge her to do her best. She knows that Biboo is capable of greatness possibly even surpassing herself. She also knows that Bijou is a determined gamer who is willing to take the heat and persevere through frustration and difficulty in order to accomplish a goal. When it comes to more casual or new players like Hajime, Kaela wants them to not become discouraged and helps them along to keep things fun for them and not frustrating. Kaela treats Bijou the way she does because she loves her dearly. Its just a different way of expressing her love.
Ah, very understandable. It's tough because many jokes that are misleading at face value really are funny when the context is understood. Part of the humor stems from the fact that we know it's not entirely true. I guess we just have to be careful and not overdo it.
Well, I love that she managed to be open and communicate with the JP members during the Minecraft Hardcore event. She rarely communicated with JP members due to language barriers and this Minecraft event was a great opportunity for her. Her interactions with JP members are funny and wholesome. I just hope people don't take the jokes about it too seriously and misunderstand her by comparing her relationship with others. Her chemistry with the other members are great, and I hope she can feel more free to communicate with other members/people in the future.
kaela and biboo relationship is like the master and the apprentice. kaela want biboo to explore everything that she want to know at that game, and biboo seems like okay with that.
Of course it's just a joke and nothing more, but it may cause some concern to Kaela, it's not surprising We know that Biboo has some special relationship with Kaela, just like Kronii - a special warm friendly relationship where they like to tease each other And Kaela is always happy to play with Biboo - there's no doubt about that (remember the Palworld moment and more) I'm actually very pleased to see how their relationship is progressing. From the first tweets when Kaela "threatened" Biboo on debut to what we have now. GrindStone adorable together 💛💜
While people mostly joking, some other may take it too far. Pemaloe and other fans (not just Kaela's case) must know the limit, we should set the standard how
I just adore how Kaela have a special relationship with Biboo, Kronii and Zeta, the three of them for different reasons but you can clearly see the closeness, its adorable.
@@irvancrocs1753 Not really, the ones that have a very close relationship with Kaela are the ones that don´t have over sugarly moments since she is like that with almost anyone and Kaela treat those 3 as equals since they understand her in some specific aspects (Biboo in her tastes and hobbies, Kronii on her personality and Zeta as her irl best friend)
100% what I feel about all those clips ever since the clip with Hajime. Clips can create misunderstandings without any context given if taken as face value. Not to mention, all these "mother and daughter with Hajime being the whole 2nd pampered child" is really overused at this point. Even with grindstone clips, it will be 90% filled with comments being “oh look mom and daughter!!” this or that. Some clippers do that as well with their video title. But of course, end of the day I understand that its a joke but then its kind of painting this narrative that is not entirely the truth. People don't really consider how the our oshi feels and all these haha funny jokes memes can go too far. Kronii's subway thing was something similar and even she had to address it.
tbf you cant really blame anybody for that. there is no objective 'going too far', or 'knowing when to stop' with those kinds of memes. there are some core memories and moments in one vtubers community, that both the talent and fans love, that would be way too far for another vtuber and their community. unless the person takes a clear stance and voices their boundaries, they cant blame anyone. this Kalea situation is perfectly fine from all sides, IMO. people meme like they always do and now its gone a bit too far and Kaela adresses it without judgement. literally noone to blame here. The Kronii sandwich stuff is a bit different, because the way she voiced her annoyance was judgemental. she said it like people should have stopped long ago, out of common sence, which is a bit weird. as if people should have read her mind, or there is some kind of objectivity to the joke being overdone/old, which there obviously isnt.
Honestly it's not just about this alone tho, it's every single times whenever there is a teetee interaction between all members or funny gimmicks created by community in hololive.. Like Takamori, PekoMiko, PekoMoona, Baqua, Fubuki is cat, towa is angel, gorikanata, ore no Ina, ame groundpound your mom, etc...some are fine but some went overboard sometimes, best to do? Just let it cool down because it won't last forever, after all we can't control the tide of people on internet..
If I think about it, I've often seen clip watchers who don't know the context at all, I know some of them don't have time to watch it in full for various reasons, but most of them accept what they see as fact, not a joke, and misinformation occurs
I'm mainly a clip watcher and I thought this is just something basic to understand lol so I was a bit surprised to see that Kaela needs to address this
Something I have been seeing on some clips is the way the clips show something funny but then the editor goes out of the way to provide context right after the funny moment. Those people should always receive all the likes and shares to reinforce that behavior. Show the funny but also show the context and become the more trusted clipper. Like OP you showed the Ollie moment but you could have also shown the moment Kaela referred to for a ribbon on top of an already great informative clip.
Reminded of when Fubuki nicely asked people to please tone down the "She's a cat! Not a fox!" Meme. People have a habit of overusing a joke/meme till it becomes annoying.
@@Yowneyy I get it but even the idols themselves still joking a lot about it, meaning it's still pretty much relevant despite it's being overused, it's normal on internet..
To be honest... im so glad Hajimyaa gets so happy playing with Kaela ... because I was worried during the JDON Bae stream.. it feels like Hajimya got bullied and I thought we gone too far.. seeing her still doing fine makes me relief
If kaela give biboo elytra freely. Beejoe wont be exist, she might be playing casually like other holomem. She wont grind hard or do dificult games. You guys want that biboo?
Even if people dont watch kaela, kaela shin is well known even in other holomem circles for being super kind and helpful. She sounds worried of the opinions of people who might watch those clips that don't even watch hololive
Hajime been treated like someone who will inherit Kaela stuffs when she gone , Biboo been treated like Kaela herself which is Kaela training her to inherit her skills to obtain all the stuffs she has .
clippers should give a brief context to avoid misunderstanding. its fun and games but it might ruin someone's reputation just because of out of context clip.
4:55 Yeah, people who still say that Biboo is more special, they not understand at all. Its just the same! The only difference between them is because of language barrier. Kaela and Biboo can speak english, so they communicate a lot more. But they got the same treatment
Biboo hold a special place in Kaela's heart. It's like when you finally found someone who can keep up with you. That's why Kaela wants Biboo to experience all the great stuffs in game, so she help Biboo get elytra and diamonds instead of just giving it to her.
this is basically the moment of people who tends to overthink even tho lots of other people say that "it's fine, dont worry about it". Me myself also struggles a lot with this like yeah it can kinda overwhelm when even tho they said that it's fine but i still think like "did they perhaps say it's fine but actually offendsive a little bit?" or "i should've done this instead so there will be no misunderstanding when other people see it". Here's i can just hope everything is fine on her or Bijou's side
Yes, sometimes clipers want to create interesting content, even though it could have a bad impact on the vtuber,,,, ya, even though it's just content for fun, but there are some people who can misunderstand it.
I gotta admit that I find kinda cute seeing Ela feeling a bit self-conscious/bothered about the meme. Even though Biboo herself also doubled down on the meme, some people might really take it out of context and Ela, the sweetie pie she is, who put a lot of care in her collabs with Biboo felt a bit wronged about it.
She is just being more open towards her fan.Now she feels more comfortable with her fan and her fan also did the same.So there is less drink and sleep joke 🤣.... The usual fans already get the memo.
i know kaela treats people almost equally, but for think its the hajimya who got special treatment, i think its the opposite... Kaela doesn't give any material she grinds, but for biboo, she gives her the most precious stuff that can't be grinded , that is "time" and her "knowledge". Its like kaela teach her oldest daughter to have her legacy, and i think its the most special treatment kaela can give
From an outside perspective it seems like Kaela and Biboo have a found family relationship. I love how because of Hololive those two met each other when it's unlikely they would have ever met otherwise. They are one of my favorite pairings to watch in Hololive as a whole, and I find the meme of Biboo's vs Hajimyan's treatment hysterical. IMO the reason for the difference in treatment is Kaela very much likes to troll other members, especially the ones she's closest too. She can go all out in teasing Biboo as they go on virtual adventures, but the language barrier between Kaela and JP girls prevents her from full-force trolling so she appears 'nicer.' I hope Kaela doesn't continue to worry about this, as it should be pretty obvious that Biboo really enjoys streaming with Kaela. And personally I'm still holding out hope for a mega stream with Korone, Koyori, Kaela, and Biboo sometime in the future XD
I do watch Kaela so i get the context but for certain clips of holomembers where i see certain interactions i usually end up looking up more clips or the original to understand more their relationship and the type of joke that goes on between them
Kaela as a blacksmith treats the greatest materials according to their potential. And as a rare powerful jem, she needs to cut, shape, and bend her in order to reach her full potential.
Bijou is a grinder like Kaela. They also had more time so, with Bijou, it was more a matter of teaching her how to Minecraft and building her confidence.
I see. Context is important. With it, people will find jokes and funny moments as what they are, jokes and funny moments. Without it, misunderstanding could be made here and there.
oh... what bothers her is that the clip make it looked like she really made biboo go get an elytra by herself... not because of the meme itself... it's because the clip hid context to make the meme... ahhh got it... alright, and that's actually understandable
Don't think many people would take these jokes seriously as like a canon thing but it's going to be annoying if they're going for far too long like the subway joke for example
You just can't keep everyone happy, just do what you feel, no matter what others think, in the end you are free to do what you want and so are the others since getting something for yourself is what gives it an added value, why it's great.
in my opinion, maybe Kaela sees potential in Biboo hence she makes her do by herself and not easily provide everything so she will evolve further and that is a good thing, right? and also, Biboo is a jewel, the harder the pressure, the more beautiful she get
Maybe it's just Kaela you know, I'm 100% sure everybody that already aware of how Grindstone relationship really are, already understand that Kaela not doing that because she's doesn't "care" about Biboo, but actually Kaela want Biboo to grow, want Biboo to experience it the grind by herself, and to make up a reason for them to play together. We all know you love Biboo more than anything Kaela, don't worry it wouldn't got twisted. (unless for people that actually new in hololive community)
this clip shows how kind Kaela really is, she is too kind thats why its bothered her a little because deep down her heart she loves both Biboo and Hajime equally.
I mean the thing is getting the elytra is one of the @experiences@ in minecraft. Ela simply thought Biboo would enjoy that experience which is not for everyone, especially for those that are not that into the game. It's not that deep.
Mbak Ela, ngeluhnya bisa bikin kempes ban mobil... If it hurts, it hurts. No matter if it's a meme or joke. Simply being able to say this shows that it bother her a LOT. Since it could paint her as someone who picks favorites and treats loved ones differently.
Honestly I understood it that Kaela treated Biboo as a mother and Hajime as a rich aunt. Biboo is Kaela rightful heir and succesor, she is the second pro gamer to join Hololive.
@@unknownme217 wont argue because I there is no wrong interpretation. Just gonna point out that latino and asian mother-daughter relationship allows teasing each other as long as the daughter remains respectful.
I always saw it as mother and daughter relationship due to lore in a sense. Beeboo said she is collecting moms and even made a very strange yet funny family with Kobo.
Basically, Hajimya wasn't going to be interacting with Kaela for very long whereas Beejoe got a full collab with Kaela and she needed some actual gameplay for content.
I always read into Kaela and Bijou's relationship as something more like master and student. When people ask for elytras from Kaela, she's fine with giving them that shortcut if they don't wanna screw around with hunting for one, because exploring that area is a pain. She recognizes Bijou is built different and would not have nearly as many problems as most would.Essentially, she's not just going to hand Bijou things because something that might be difficult for others, would just be laziness for Bijou. Hajime was basically a lost little child. She doesn't speak a lot of English, and Kaela doesn't speak a lot of Japanese, so the teaching method has to be different anyway. Holding Hajime's hand and double and triple checking she has enough fire walking potions and calmly leading her into lava has to play out that way because otherwise Hajime would've taken one potion and probably died. It's not that Kaela doesn't care, it's that she cares very deeply. She's a teacher at heart, and she recognizes differences in her students.
Actually we all know it just a meme, but just ppl who don't know will misunderstanding. So just don't meme this too much. Both Hajimya and Biboo got wonderful trip and experience.
many people don't know biboo's mentality which is that of a real gamer, kaela just had to teach her how to play minecraft and that's it, they have nothing to envy each other. I believe that biboo, kaela and suisei are the best players in all of hololive. guys, what biboo did in hollow knight broke my jaw and I have 20 years of gaming under my belt, kaela has nothing to teach biboo other than minecraft.
@@xxx-lq7ho ok you're probably 12, it's normal to teach a game you already know to a person who plays for the first time, this doesn't make you better than another person because if they were to play darksoul or elder ring it would be biboo to teach kaela, you can't say kaela taught her this mindset when biboo has the same mindset as her. you probably don't know anything about biboo
i never think of kaela made a different treatment? but i remember bibou self tell kaela that she want kaela train her to master the minecraft because since advent first time play minecraft collab is soon (at that time) so she want to carry advent with kaela support, plus kaela give more many things than others , just remember when bibou with cailli that want to build a conduit i guess but kaela just said "just takw whtever you want" without hasitation asking while there is no such a member not felt guilty after asking kaela for something even she still give it the best amount to them even they just ask for 1 stack, and kaela is not a stingy person because since she grinded because its just a fun for her and just loot anything that she got amd just store it them and she mever knows she will not even need that item , but she just keep it just like a collector,
Out of context yeah it does has that iffy vibe. But in context, the sheer amount of grindstone collab content proves that both of them really like each other
At the end of the day it's all funny memes but if anything it just shows Kaela is closer and trusts biboo a lot more if anything. During MC HC it's only open for a week and there is very limited time to interact with the other members especially JP members so it's not like she can help "build" someone from the ground up. But with Biboo she knows that she can put in the time and grind and they can go collect the resources together.
Kaela treats Biboo as an equal. She knows she can and will do it, and she'll get the good memories of it getting. She just has less expectation for the others, and understand some won't be willing to invest all that time to get it.
I understand she's sad the clip didn't tell they got it together.
Technically Asian mom treatment. 😆
Yeah she's their mom everything's daijobou, mamaela shouldn't be bothered by these "memes"
Kaela knows Biboo doesn't want easy mode
Kaela knows beejoe is a fellow gamer. She’s totally capable and does enjoy achieving things just like Ela
@@bonten. Just in case someone take it seriously
When Biboo ask "Did you miss me?"
Kaela said "I miss grindstone".
It's not about the person, it's about the moment of togetherness
Kaela just tsundere lol
They forge memories.
Get it?! THEY FORGE M-
Basically Kaela doesn’t want misinformation and it’s easily spread to people who doesn’t actually watch her
Ah.. the clip watcher and the clipper that didnt even watch the stream but still clip it then put click bait title without any context.
Which is why I'll go into comment sections of clips and try to tell people to knock the penguin joke off - even if people get real mad about it.
@@hello-im This, this is why I don't like inside jokes that portrays any single member as bad, because freaking clip watchers will take it out of context and thinks that they're actually bad. Case on point, significant clip watchers actually thought that Miko's Japanese is bad, even tho she freaking speaks perfect native level Japanese and the only thing making her hard to understand is her baby tongue. It is really frustrating to see as a JP speaker myself.
Other example is "Fuwawa evil twin", it's fun and all for people who know that it's just a joke, but some clip watchers think that Fuwawa is actually toxic, and I was like, TF? Have you seen when Mococo messed her noodle and Fuwawa just told her to leave it there cause she'll take care of it later? She's so damn sweet to her lil sister, she LOVES Mococo. It's just... man, It's frustrating.
@@rasna2212bro chill
@@SpawnofHastur yeah? well im gonna fight you then cause that penguin joke was literally made in heaven, it's just so perfect man. Kovalskia (kowalski),black white outfit,cool (cute) as a penguin,just look at that man
I can see her struggle. the misunderstanding that could happen.
it's funny how when she gives a lot of thing to someone, some people say "Please let them get it by themself, you are ruining their experience". and then when she taught them the experience of getting one, some people say "Why didn't u just give her right away?"
True, can't pleases everyone. That's why i really appreciate when clippers gives detailed context to the clip. Help on avoiding major misunderstanding
Yes, some people might prefer the experience of working for things themselves. But there are many others who would just like to build cool stuff with cool materials and aren't particularly interested in going on an epic and arduous adventure for it. If they tried to grind themselves, they may find it boring or too difficult and give up without ever experiencing many fun parts of the game. Its those people that Kaela wants to help the most. I think she can tell when somebody is more hardcore and would rather do things themselves.
Frfr statement
The fact that she is doing it for them at all is a rarity in Hololive, you never see a member that grinds and helps as much as Kaela. I can't understand why or how anyone could say that's a bad thing because she makes minecraft a lot more fun for the members who want to be guided, she doesn't force herself on anyone.
that's so true
totally f-k up
it's like when you do part of the group assignment but people in your group say you did nothing as a meme and you go along with it 'cause it's funny. but suddelny people from outside of the group start repeating it without knowing the context and they end up thinking that you really did nothing, it feels kinda bad
There was also the context that this was a short hardcore server, where they had a limited amount of lives, she had already told Hajime to stay alive,
Kaela had already taken Haachama to the nether, and felt responsibility for Haachama's death, as well as feeling sad that she could no longer get revived, it affected her to the point that she refused to go with Kiara to a Bastion because of how dangerous they are, and she would not be responsible for anyone else.
So it was a surprise that Kaela did go back to the nether with Hajime, but she made sure she was totally prepared that time and guided Hajime through the 'orange juice'
So yes, Kaela helped Hajime get the netherite armor carefully guiding her through the nether, and providing her own diamonds for the templates, and yes she provides a lot of guidance and assistance to Hajime, and even sold her a totem for cheap
But in doing all of that, Hajime survived to the very end.
With Biboo, the sever is very different, there was no pressure to survive, and as Kaela says, she didn't need to just give the things to Biboo as they went together to collect them, and the reality is, when Kaela is giving gifts of items to other Holomem, it is because she isn't having those collabs with them, so I would say that Biboo came out with something more valuable.
Honestly I would like to see Kaela and Hajime collab more after this, have Kaela give Hajime the Biboo treatment by taking her out and training her, have her get her own wings, and turn her into a sweaty minecraft player
Dude I also want to see Kaela guides the entire ReGloss to find elytra, just like she did with Irys, Kronii, and Lui back then...
Even tho it gets overshadowed by Hajimya's moment, Kaela actually really had great interactions as well with the rest of ReGloss in HC, from helping Ririka who get lost and helping to revive her, enjoying Raden's full of sugar happiness, to aiding Kanade and Ao plenty of times....
Yeah she had great interactions with so many people on the Hardcore server, it's been mentioned many times, but proximity mod really helped bring that server to life and gave rise to so many interactions we wouldn't normally get.
Maybe the one thing that is hindering them from doing it is the language barrier, bec. ye Ririka can be the middle man right? But it will be just an interaction like Kirara translating stuff for Gura or Ame.. U kno bec. Nihongo is yet to become jozou.
But with Biboo, the sky is the limit coz Biboo too can speak a lil Thai, it is wut it is, maybe in the future, when they solve this issue, then it will become a reality.
The bantering is wut many find entertaining bec. u kno.. when u have friends, it's the experience of socializing in a non superficial way by making them annoyed or vise versa is the thing that gets u close.
Biboo is being thaught to be the successor
No pressure
@@Anvicait's a gem. Her borndom comes directly by extreme pression.
Biboo is more special, because Kaela wants memories with Biboo through adventures and discoveries... Kaela doesn't want Biboo to look at her as a NPC, she wants Biboo to look at her as adventure companion to share laughs and bweh as long as possible... She did as well with Hajime and probably Hajime didn't know that Kaela gave several free netherite...
This. I agree to this. She is so used being a god in mc. She deserves to have memories and a adventure companion or even an apprentice for other people to rely on Biboo too in the future.
What it is with all members is that she wants to encourage holomems to play MC more and she feels like if they go and get things like elytra’s as opposed to receiving them as gifts, they’ll be more encouraged to keep playing
People seeing Kaela giving "different treatment" to Hajimya probably must have to do with language barrier, I am sure if Hajimya is fluent in English Kaela would like to teach her and guide her in same way as Biboo to gain better experience, not to mention we all know Kaela is quite shy around JP members..
Clippers adding the context should be a standard now. Because clip only watchers would sometimes misunderstand the talents.
i filtered so many clipper that way, low effort and click baity tittle? off to the shadow realm!
I think only if You have one or two neurons...
I'm a clip only watcher and i'm smart enough to know that this is nothing more than banter and just joking around...
I don't think Vtuber followers are as dumb as children... Right?
No, it is not the clippers duty to present every nuance of a story, that's why it's called a "clip". It is supposed to be a short snip-it of a bigger whole, which means context will be lost.
Instead of blaming clippers, you should be blaming viewers for jumping to conclusions based on a clip.
@@Joel-kw7jf Who's blaming who?
Also, being a short snip-it clip and adding context ARE NOT mutually exclusive. You can add small context via text. For people who want to read it, they can pause to read.
And I'm only pertaining to clippers who INTENTIONALLY mislead viewers into misunderstanding.
@@Leoyagami96 not everybody is follower
The third : special treatment
The second : Asian treatment
The first : special treatment, but forgotten
Yeahh...the forgotten shark
Because the shark daughter from other wife 😂 that she forgot too
@@nobody-mt9le The first child was doing some errands from her mom and forgot to return back home..
who is the first child again ? kobo or gura ? i forgot
@@revaalleria3096 gura , she was adopted by kaela and moona , like how kobo adopted by kiara and calli
How could anybody think Kaela doesn't treat Biboo well? lol
Biboo summons her by yelling on stream, meaning she's watching all the time too.
Kaela is a bit hard on Biboo because her belief in her is so high. Kaela wants to challenge her to do her best. She knows that Biboo is capable of greatness possibly even surpassing herself. She also knows that Bijou is a determined gamer who is willing to take the heat and persevere through frustration and difficulty in order to accomplish a goal. When it comes to more casual or new players like Hajime, Kaela wants them to not become discouraged and helps them along to keep things fun for them and not frustrating. Kaela treats Bijou the way she does because she loves her dearly. Its just a different way of expressing her love.
Ah, very understandable. It's tough because many jokes that are misleading at face value really are funny when the context is understood. Part of the humor stems from the fact that we know it's not entirely true. I guess we just have to be careful and not overdo it.
Well, I love that she managed to be open and communicate with the JP members during the Minecraft Hardcore event. She rarely communicated with JP members due to language barriers and this Minecraft event was a great opportunity for her. Her interactions with JP members are funny and wholesome. I just hope people don't take the jokes about it too seriously and misunderstand her by comparing her relationship with others. Her chemistry with the other members are great, and I hope she can feel more free to communicate with other members/people in the future.
kaela and biboo relationship is like the master and the apprentice. kaela want biboo to explore everything that she want to know at that game, and biboo seems like okay with that.
Of course it's just a joke and nothing more, but it may cause some concern to Kaela, it's not surprising
We know that Biboo has some special relationship with Kaela, just like Kronii - a special warm friendly relationship where they like to tease each other
And Kaela is always happy to play with Biboo - there's no doubt about that (remember the Palworld moment and more)
I'm actually very pleased to see how their relationship is progressing. From the first tweets when Kaela "threatened" Biboo on debut to what we have now. GrindStone adorable together 💛💜
While people mostly joking, some other may take it too far. Pemaloe and other fans (not just Kaela's case) must know the limit, we should set the standard how
It kinda how watame and botan friendship started
I just adore how Kaela have a special relationship with Biboo, Kronii and Zeta, the three of them for different reasons but you can clearly see the closeness, its adorable.
@@SpookyTree255 I would add Mikochi as well, every time they meet it's always full of sugar from teetee..
@@irvancrocs1753 Not really, the ones that have a very close relationship with Kaela are the ones that don´t have over sugarly moments since she is like that with almost anyone and Kaela treat those 3 as equals since they understand her in some specific aspects (Biboo in her tastes and hobbies, Kronii on her personality and Zeta as her irl best friend)
Well Kaela mama was just toughening up her Jewel child up for the future...
100% what I feel about all those clips ever since the clip with Hajime.
Clips can create misunderstandings without any context given if taken as face value. Not to mention, all these "mother and daughter with Hajime being the whole 2nd pampered child" is really overused at this point.
Even with grindstone clips, it will be 90% filled with comments being “oh look mom and daughter!!” this or that. Some clippers do that as well with their video title.
But of course, end of the day I understand that its a joke but then its kind of painting this narrative that is not entirely the truth.
People don't really consider how the our oshi feels and all these haha funny jokes memes can go too far. Kronii's subway thing was something similar and even she had to address it.
tbf you cant really blame anybody for that.
there is no objective 'going too far', or 'knowing when to stop' with those kinds of memes.
there are some core memories and moments in one vtubers community, that both the talent and fans love, that would be way too far for another vtuber and their community.
unless the person takes a clear stance and voices their boundaries, they cant blame anyone.
this Kalea situation is perfectly fine from all sides, IMO. people meme like they always do and now its gone a bit too far and Kaela adresses it without judgement. literally noone to blame here.
The Kronii sandwich stuff is a bit different, because the way she voiced her annoyance was judgemental. she said it like people should have stopped long ago, out of common sence, which is a bit weird. as if people should have read her mind, or there is some kind of objectivity to the joke being overdone/old, which there obviously isnt.
Honestly it's not just about this alone tho, it's every single times whenever there is a teetee interaction between all members or funny gimmicks created by community in hololive..
Like Takamori, PekoMiko, PekoMoona, Baqua, Fubuki is cat, towa is angel, gorikanata, ore no Ina, ame groundpound your mom, etc...some are fine but some went overboard sometimes, best to do? Just let it cool down because it won't last forever, after all we can't control the tide of people on internet..
Kalea love the process, thats it!.
Kaela when saw the meme : "maybe I was too harsh on her"
Kaela next day at collab : "Bully her guys!!!!"
If I think about it, I've often seen clip watchers who don't know the context at all, I know some of them don't have time to watch it in full for various reasons, but most of them accept what they see as fact, not a joke, and misinformation occurs
I'm mainly a clip watcher and I thought this is just something basic to understand lol so I was a bit surprised to see that Kaela needs to address this
Something I have been seeing on some clips is the way the clips show something funny but then the editor goes out of the way to provide context right after the funny moment. Those people should always receive all the likes and shares to reinforce that behavior. Show the funny but also show the context and become the more trusted clipper. Like OP you showed the Ollie moment but you could have also shown the moment Kaela referred to for a ribbon on top of an already great informative clip.
Reminded of when Fubuki nicely asked people to please tone down the "She's a cat! Not a fox!" Meme.
People have a habit of overusing a joke/meme till it becomes annoying.
Its like the JDON MY SOUL the more people use it the more it gets annoying
@@Yowneyy Meanwhile Promise in their last stream. "Potion of JDON MY SOUL". "Do it Kronii!" And Kronii died of cringe.
@@Yowneyy I get it but even the idols themselves still joking a lot about it, meaning it's still pretty much relevant despite it's being overused, it's normal on internet..
Maybe a better analogy would be kronii and subway?
To sum it all up, Kaela is there for Biboo, and she wants to make memories with her. For me, that was special.
They are GRINDSTONE. She's teaching her the hard way because she will inherits Kaela's Way. Hahahahahaha
that just prove Bijoe more special with Kaela
To be honest... im so glad Hajimyaa gets so happy playing with Kaela ... because I was worried during the JDON Bae stream.. it feels like Hajimya got bullied and I thought we gone too far.. seeing her still doing fine makes me relief
I've only watched some clips and condensed versions of the whole "jdon" thing, how did it seem like Hajime got bullied?
@@boredgamer7841hajime's feeling maybe.. cz she thought her accent weird
Banchou should be like Elite Miko, proud of his unique accent.
@@simplegamer805 I love Hajime's gremlin laugh.
@@boredgamer7841 I Love Hajime ❤ she's my favorite in ReGloss .. her Baby Accent is so addicting
If kaela give biboo elytra freely.
Beejoe wont be exist, she might be playing casually like other holomem.
She wont grind hard or do dificult games.
You guys want that biboo?
wait.. wait.. wait... i seen this somewhere... kinda remind me how Mumei get lot of thing from Kaela.. but yeah you had point..
Thank you for the clip I haven’t watch this vod yet
Of course she will treats her daughter equals!
See it coming miles away
Even if people dont watch kaela, kaela shin is well known even in other holomem circles for being super kind and helpful. She sounds worried of the opinions of people who might watch those clips that don't even watch hololive
Kaela is soo nice, she wouldn't dare to say "no" or "don't" and put the blame on herself.
We know mothers have their fav child (jk).
how time they spend together on stream proof everyhting about their love and care for eachother..😌
Hajime been treated like someone who will inherit Kaela stuffs when she gone , Biboo been treated like Kaela herself which is Kaela training her to inherit her skills to obtain all the stuffs she has .
clippers should give a brief context to avoid misunderstanding.
its fun and games but it might ruin someone's reputation just because of out of context clip.
4:55 Yeah, people who still say that Biboo is more special, they not understand at all. Its just the same!
The only difference between them is because of language barrier.
Kaela and Biboo can speak english, so they communicate a lot more. But they got the same treatment
Kaela is like Palpatine
Beejoe is like Dath Vader
She has to learn the ways of Kaela
What a horrible comparison lol
So, who's the yoda and Anakin in this case?
Biboo hold a special place in Kaela's heart. It's like when you finally found someone who can keep up with you. That's why Kaela wants Biboo to experience all the great stuffs in game, so she help Biboo get elytra and diamonds instead of just giving it to her.
this is basically the moment of people who tends to overthink even tho lots of other people say that "it's fine, dont worry about it". Me myself also struggles a lot with this like yeah it can kinda overwhelm when even tho they said that it's fine but i still think like "did they perhaps say it's fine but actually offendsive a little bit?" or "i should've done this instead so there will be no misunderstanding when other people see it". Here's i can just hope everything is fine on her or Bijou's side
Yes, sometimes clipers want to create interesting content, even though it could have a bad impact on the vtuber,,,, ya, even though it's just content for fun, but there are some people who can misunderstand it.
I gotta admit that I find kinda cute seeing Ela feeling a bit self-conscious/bothered about the meme. Even though Biboo herself also doubled down on the meme, some people might really take it out of context and Ela, the sweetie pie she is, who put a lot of care in her collabs with Biboo felt a bit wronged about it.
She is just being more open towards her fan.Now she feels more comfortable with her fan and her fan also did the same.So there is less drink and sleep joke 🤣....
The usual fans already get the memo.
Also worth noting that biboo has the personality of wanting to get those things herself even with help she wants the adventure.
Hololive fans watching clips and taking them out of context!? I’m shocked 😮
i know kaela treats people almost equally, but for think its the hajimya who got special treatment, i think its the opposite... Kaela doesn't give any material she grinds, but for biboo, she gives her the most precious stuff that can't be grinded , that is "time" and her "knowledge". Its like kaela teach her oldest daughter to have her legacy, and i think its the most special treatment kaela can give
damn son i can't cath that stream live, and now after i saw your clip title iyhought we're gonna get another "subway boober" moment
From an outside perspective it seems like Kaela and Biboo have a found family relationship. I love how because of Hololive those two met each other when it's unlikely they would have ever met otherwise. They are one of my favorite pairings to watch in Hololive as a whole, and I find the meme of Biboo's vs Hajimyan's treatment hysterical. IMO the reason for the difference in treatment is Kaela very much likes to troll other members, especially the ones she's closest too. She can go all out in teasing Biboo as they go on virtual adventures, but the language barrier between Kaela and JP girls prevents her from full-force trolling so she appears 'nicer.' I hope Kaela doesn't continue to worry about this, as it should be pretty obvious that Biboo really enjoys streaming with Kaela. And personally I'm still holding out hope for a mega stream with Korone, Koyori, Kaela, and Biboo sometime in the future XD
it's not only about elytra... it's how she interact with peple close to her (bejo, time, all id) and people that still have distance with her
I do watch Kaela so i get the context but for certain clips of holomembers where i see certain interactions i usually end up looking up more clips or the original to understand more their relationship and the type of joke that goes on between them
Kaela as a blacksmith treats the greatest materials according to their potential. And as a rare powerful jem, she needs to cut, shape, and bend her in order to reach her full potential.
Bijou is a grinder like Kaela. They also had more time so, with Bijou, it was more a matter of teaching her how to Minecraft and building her confidence.
It upsets me to, because these clippers will twist any situation for clicks, especially at the cost of the livers.
I see.
Context is important.
With it, people will find jokes and funny moments as what they are, jokes and funny moments.
Without it, misunderstanding could be made here and there.
oh... what bothers her is that the clip make it looked like she really made biboo go get an elytra by herself... not because of the meme itself... it's because the clip hid context to make the meme... ahhh got it... alright, and that's actually understandable
Just further proof that Kaela is very kind and caring. She just wants people to learn how things are done when she is helping them.
Don't think many people would take these jokes seriously as like a canon thing but it's going to be annoying if they're going for far too long like the subway joke for example
You just can't keep everyone happy, just do what you feel, no matter what others think, in the end you are free to do what you want and so are the others since getting something for yourself is what gives it an added value, why it's great.
in my opinion, maybe Kaela sees potential in Biboo hence she makes her do by herself and not easily provide everything so she will evolve further
and that is a good thing, right?
and also, Biboo is a jewel, the harder the pressure, the more beautiful she get
The long sigh said it all, it might be just meme but people who doesnt know might take it wrong way and cause trouble for the talent
This nean kaela really love beboo as the fav, she's sad when everyone not think on the difference way
Maybe it's just Kaela you know, I'm 100% sure everybody that already aware of how Grindstone relationship really are, already understand that Kaela not doing that because she's doesn't "care" about Biboo, but actually Kaela want Biboo to grow, want Biboo to experience it the grind by herself, and to make up a reason for them to play together. We all know you love Biboo more than anything Kaela, don't worry it wouldn't got twisted. (unless for people that actually new in hololive community)
We shouldn't make her feels bad about this guys.
this clip shows how kind Kaela really is, she is too kind thats why its bothered her a little because deep down her heart she loves both Biboo and Hajime equally.
Kaela always helps, one way or another.
What the heck guys, what did you do to Kaela? 😢
I mean the thing is getting the elytra is one of the @experiences@ in minecraft. Ela simply thought Biboo would enjoy that experience which is not for everyone, especially for those that are not that into the game. It's not that deep.
siap bang kaela jgn lupa tidur
"I made Biboo get the elitra herself because I wanted to spend time with her while she got it" basically, my cute balcksmith can't comunicate.
Mbak Ela, ngeluhnya bisa bikin kempes ban mobil...
If it hurts, it hurts. No matter if it's a meme or joke.
Simply being able to say this shows that it bother her a LOT. Since it could paint her as someone who picks favorites and treats loved ones differently.
I think kaela feel bad about that memes , she is feeling so wrong
How people treat close friend/equal
vs
How people treat acquaintance
So, we took it as a meme but Kaela actually care about everyone. Literally everyone. Let's keep that in mind
She just wanted to enjoy her time with her baby Biboo in Minecraft. That's why she go explore with her for elytra.
Honestly I understood it that Kaela treated Biboo as a mother and Hajime as a rich aunt.
Biboo is Kaela rightful heir and succesor, she is the second pro gamer to join Hololive.
Been wondering am i the only one saw it as sisterly relationship instead parent-child. The way they tease each other and interacting.
@@unknownme217 wont argue because I there is no wrong interpretation. Just gonna point out that latino and asian mother-daughter relationship allows teasing each other as long as the daughter remains respectful.
I always saw it as mother and daughter relationship due to lore in a sense. Beeboo said she is collecting moms and even made a very strange yet funny family with Kobo.
Beejoe is just a spoiled rock princes and she deserves all the love. She just cute! We all know that.
Always the problem with tourists that only watch clips, they don't know the context
At least kaela didn't give Bijou stepmother (Reine style) treatment
Basically, Hajimya wasn't going to be interacting with Kaela for very long whereas Beejoe got a full collab with Kaela and she needed some actual gameplay for content.
Calli be like: First time?
not only clipper but also the fanart
I always read into Kaela and Bijou's relationship as something more like master and student. When people ask for elytras from Kaela, she's fine with giving them that shortcut if they don't wanna screw around with hunting for one, because exploring that area is a pain. She recognizes Bijou is built different and would not have nearly as many problems as most would.Essentially, she's not just going to hand Bijou things because something that might be difficult for others, would just be laziness for Bijou.
Hajime was basically a lost little child. She doesn't speak a lot of English, and Kaela doesn't speak a lot of Japanese, so the teaching method has to be different anyway. Holding Hajime's hand and double and triple checking she has enough fire walking potions and calmly leading her into lava has to play out that way because otherwise Hajime would've taken one potion and probably died.
It's not that Kaela doesn't care, it's that she cares very deeply. She's a teacher at heart, and she recognizes differences in her students.
I do feel that I forgot about that aspect. Not everyone goes after context for eveything after all.
We lost amesame collabs once due to community taking things too far. Don't want that happen to grindstone collabs too
Still hoping they do an off collab while bijou's in japan
Dang kaela is so cute
Actually we all know it just a meme, but just ppl who don't know will misunderstanding. So just don't meme this too much. Both Hajimya and Biboo got wonderful trip and experience.
In description bibo is final product and hajimya cute little crystal
We know Kaela has a heart of gold behind all that netherite 💛
nice clip!
Toaru fans seeing the thumbnail : *NT9 flashback*
it just the same or even better treatment to biboo in my eye, but the meme still funny af
Keala teaches Biboo to tougher now she can play minecraft no fear and also play darksoul with good grind mindset thanks to keala
many people don't know biboo's mentality which is that of a real gamer, kaela just had to teach her how to play minecraft and that's it, they have nothing to envy each other.
I believe that biboo, kaela and suisei are the best players in all of hololive.
guys, what biboo did in hollow knight broke my jaw and I have 20 years of gaming under my belt, kaela has nothing to teach biboo other than minecraft.
@@lubuleda she teacher Raft and plasma phobobia
@@xxx-lq7ho ok you're probably 12, it's normal to teach a game you already know to a person who plays for the first time, this doesn't make you better than another person because if they were to play darksoul or elder ring it would be biboo to teach kaela, you can't say kaela taught her this mindset when biboo has the same mindset as her. you probably don't know anything about biboo
She treats Biboo as one of the boys and Hajimya as an acquaintance/workmate
i never think of kaela made a different treatment? but i remember bibou self tell kaela that she want kaela train her to master the minecraft because since advent first time play minecraft collab is soon (at that time) so she want to carry advent with kaela support, plus kaela give more many things than others , just remember when bibou with cailli that want to build a conduit i guess but kaela just said "just takw whtever you want" without hasitation asking while there is no such a member not felt guilty after asking kaela for something even she still give it the best amount to them even they just ask for 1 stack, and kaela is not a stingy person because since she grinded because its just a fun for her and just loot anything that she got amd just store it them and she mever knows she will not even need that item , but she just keep it just like a collector,
Kaela, please remember why we call you and Biboo GRINDstone. The grind IS the bond to us. We would never look at it negatively.
I think i get it. kaela wants the travels with bijou, and with hajime, she just wants to get the "special occasions " to learn something to someone
Out of context yeah it does has that iffy vibe. But in context, the sheer amount of grindstone collab content proves that both of them really like each other
3:06 daijoubu desu ~
I feel like we need a grindstone offcollab
At the end of the day it's all funny memes but if anything it just shows Kaela is closer and trusts biboo a lot more if anything. During MC HC it's only open for a week and there is very limited time to interact with the other members especially JP members so it's not like she can help "build" someone from the ground up. But with Biboo she knows that she can put in the time and grind and they can go collect the resources together.