Will The Gundam Card Game Succeed?
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- The other day the Gundam Card Game was announced as Bandai's next card game, and as both a huge TCG and Gundam fan, I thought I'd go over my thoughts and expectations for this next big title in the TCG industry.
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Oh boy, i really don't want to be in Bandai's and Bushiroad's shoes, when the current TCG bubble bursts. The amount of card games those companies are launching, every since the TCG renaissance of 2020, is insane.
The only way they can survive is if they go digital like Master Duel did and actually make sure the presentation for the cards is high quality like Pokemon TCG Pocket's.
Physical can be nice as a collector's item and the whole card shop experience. But the majority of people will prefer digital for its ease of access to cards, matches, etc.
I mean bandai is not only a card company they will be fine so is bushiroad they have many other projects
Bandai makes its money immediately so they will be fine. They make the product and sell it to distributors, and like another comment stated they are a large company with many different markets they play in.
@@velar25 The real people in problem are the game stores that have to make orders waay in advance of release without knowing if the game is gonna take of or if they are going to sit on cases of unsellable stock IE the stores that supported BSS
Not really related to TCG renaissance or 2020. There were always alot of card games in Japan. They are now only translating them into English or doing global launch more often
Great video, healthy take. In BSS (Battle Spirits Saga) it's called "Flash timing" where both players pass the 'time to respond to an action' back and forth until both agree to pass and move onto the next step.
Gundam TCG 'seems' to share a similar window of 'responding' in that given time frame. So it's exciting to have that layer of "here's my response to that situation" gimmick. Def one of the many interactions that got me hooked in BSS.
The thing that perplex me is that if Gundam is getting a tcg it gets less likely that we get a Gundam set in Bss
@@jacksunslight Truuuue, idk how Bandai will handle that in the future if at all. We shall see.
Love that they already announced a distributor in Brazil, feels good man
Gundam 00 mobile suits activating trans-am for a big stat buff for one turn and getting a big stat debuff after, pilots who piloted multiple suits also giving haste/storm to those instead of just one pair, turn A/Turn X being a double sided board wipe, there's a lot of design space potential to explore
I believe that the success of Witch of Mercury brought a lot of new fans to the franchise. This makes me hopeful that it could reach a more mainstream audience as well with Mercury being part of the first set.
Having played the Original Japanese version of Gundam War, it seems like this game is a mix of that and the use of their newer Bandai card game mechanics.
I'm super excited and will probably play/make content on this just as much as Digimon.
well I’m subbing then 😂
Pretty bold of Bandai to simultaneously release this game over One Piece, Union Arena and Digimon.
Not to mention they're still making TWO dragon ball card games and Battle Spirits.
Starting with Double 0 as well and really agree your take on 2v2 TCG environment would be such a unique thing if Bandai really wants this TCGto stand out then the other TCGs. We know that recently TCGs are everywhere and the popular ones are still in the picture while a lot of new ones keep entering the scene here and there. All in all, I feel that Gundam will be for niche audience only and not really for all unless the overall gameplay is somehow really fun and have something new to offer due to TCG players are struggling enough to build their decks for the new sets and for multiple TCGs to keep into account, it will be hard to get into.
Gunpla or cardboard, our wallet can only take so much.
The original art on these cards are insane!!!!
I made a 2v2 format for digimon tcg in the exact same way they are doing their 2v2. I'm glad they decided on it because its incredibly fun doing 2v2 and more card games need more than just 1v1 play
As long as you're willing to mix factions, single series decks seems very doable. Like for Unicorn, we saw Banagher is in Blue & Sinanju is in Red. And for 0079, all the White Base stuff is Blue and the Zeon stuff is in Green. The 2 factions in 0079 seem to synergize well too, with the Zakus swarming with tokens, while the RX-78-2 buffs your entire board.
I hope more companies design their games with sealed/draft in mind, most TCGs don't have good draft systems
I think the biggest factor is the fact that it's a simultaneous release with the West. Opening this game up to the West is gonna be the thing that gives it its biggest chance for survival. Just imagine if this game becomes more popular in the US than in Japan.
Nope. Gundam is not that popular in "the west".
@@RandomPerson-tz7wkgundam has massively increased in popularity in the west. Model kits constantly sell sellout
you are so on point with all arguments, hope gameplay be fun enough that can bank in the release hipe it will get.
My main issue with bandai games are a little too straightforward. There is no deckout or exodia or spell only deck etc. what duel masters did right they had a card named bird shot destroy all creatures with DP 2000 or less so you played a deck with 3000DP or more. They also had a 7 mana 7000DP attack a creature immediately, end of the turn return this creature to the hand. So it was a reoccurring sniper and there was a card that could permanently give it a 2 mana discount. The goal of the deck was get your sniper around 3 mana snipe them every turn win by value. They also did a plague themed deck they released creatures that cannot use their effect they give their effect to your other creatures. The goal was to get about 4 of them on the board and gave each other effects.
I can see that what’s showed so far is more of the experimenting phase of GCG, I can see R&D experiment with mechanics that can work in the game and have the feel of separate series in the franchise, like Build Fighters with customization and splash-able synergies with other factions, Seed with swapable modes, 00 using the trans-am system with huge one turn buffs that can only be used once per game, or IBO with extreme Aggro gameplay! The possibilities are endless, but my personal concern is the printing numbers and the infamous scalper issue with the Gunpla, which might have happened with P-Bandai’s Beta product sales.
Something to note is color looks to be determined by the 'faction' of the card. Earth Federation cards (rx-78-2) will be blue and 'operation meter' cards (wing gundam and heero) will be green. Zeon (char) will be green. So 1 series will have multiple colors because of it having multiple factions.
Also, something I find to be the most interesting/unique thing about the game is the fact cards have a Level and it determines when you can play the card. For example, a Level 5 card can only be played when you have 5 resources. So it's going to be 5 turns before you can play the really fun cards, unless of course you use cards that give you extra resources to speed up the leveling. There was a green card that does that, but it gave you a token resource that disappears when you use it, so you get a level up, but at the cost of losing the level if you're not careful. Can totally see cards like the Neo Zeong, psycho gundam, and destroy gundam being Level 10 with how huge they are.
Ik I started getting into gundam right around IBO, which I watched as much as I could then until I joined the army in the summer of 16. But that was just the start i started playing their gundam breaker games and watching all the different animes they had and tbh i am definitely gonna be putting more money than i should for the gundam card game just so I can collect all the suits i prefer. I hope the game is very successful in the US so i can get a ton of goodies 😂😂
In general I like how the base, pilot and suit mechanics feel. I can see this game pulling in gundam fans who wouldnt play tcgs otherwise, vs streching the bandai tcg playerpool thinner across another game.
Small correction about GCW, it never got English cards, only Japanese ones. Though there were somewhat unreliable translations on the app and website. Made the world championship a bit tricky since we all just had to memorise the cards. One of the many reasons the game was axed so quickly.
It certainly isnt one piece. BUT. its the same card company. i really feel like bandai card games feel very similar and i just wish there was more variety between the games.
i think that this time with the success of one piece and digimon it will have the same longevity.
As a player of the OG gundam TCG, I really hoped that they'd bring back the original life system:
You deck is your remaining life;
When you take damage, you set aside certaing number of cards from your deck;
You lose when there is no card left in your deck.
I think this is quite unique even in today's standard
So kinda like in vanguard where you take damage, you put the cards from your deck to the damage zone?
@@removed3566honestly looking at it from a game balance prospective, I don't really like it. It punishes you for taking damage and being at a disadvantage. A game Life mechanic should either reward the winner (example Pokemon prize cards, lowering opponent Life points etc) or punish the loser (blowing up a shield, taking Life in Vanguard). This one does both, not only you get closer to winning by doing the damage, you punish the opponent by potentially removing Key Pieces from their deck even before they can play them. Vanguard does the same, but is limited to 5/6 cards from top deck, I don't know how big decks were, but I can see removing 10/20 cards easily. I still remember the debates between yugioh players about pot of desires, a card that draws you 2 cards at the cost of banishing 10 cards face down from the top of your deck. Drawing 2 in yugioh is an incredibly strong effect, and even then It made a lot of people unsure, because of this reason. This is that, but as a game mechanic.
Agreed. I play One Piece & I realized it was such a missed opportunity to not include Devil Fruit typing as a mechanic. Then there’s the fact that any character can be any color, which makes it all feel pointless in terms of flavor. Just my opinion of course.
I heard if you link pilot cards with the correct unit card you can bypass summoning sickness and attack. One way they could combat pilot/command card spam is having pure pilot cards have this rule but I’ll guess we’ll see.
Crazy how many new TCGs have been coming out. I’ve been loving the hell out of Altered. Super refreshing.
man's knew the algo was going to do heavy lifting for him, very good intro and info
As I was finishing up editing I was like "this'll either bang or get 2k views, no inbetween" LOL
Im happy because one thing, official Gundam Card Sleeves :D
I kinda feel this time it feels more, well, "full fledged" in terms of the basic presentation. Hopefully we can at least see this tcg lasted long enough for a wider audience to enjoy so that it could get enough attention to last longer
Still remember getting a code to use the Try burning gundam in the game Cross Wars but CS noted the code was only for japan based region only. With how Gundam Evolution was handled (an online hero shooter game) this game would probably reach the graveyard soon. The artwork is good so will probably buy a pack and hope to get a card I can use as part of a gunpla diorama.
Honestly you could mix some Digimon in the gundam game and noone would notice. My rider is shoutmon x8
I am going to be setting up talks with my local card shop. I already preorder other card games from them so I think I may try to get a few cases to crack and get my local community to try the game out. I hope it is fun I like Gundam and would love to see it be something different to play. Right now I am drifting out of Digimon because of bad card design but I am hopeful that maybe a new tcg can bring back that joy.
Love how it immediately sold out from the looks of it. I was actually planning on maybe getting the beta set, but just like almost everything in P Bandia, it banished as soon as it went live lol
Will I be able to use my gundam models I’ve built… no? I’ll find something else
I think with WfM we got a lot of new gundam fans, that doesn't know about the old gundam TCG history. They probably give it a good try. Worst case scenario, I do think Gundam cardgame has some REALLY good looking card for collection. Much like some people who buy Weiss for the sake of collecting waifu cards.
I do like that they invest on the idea of 2v2 or 4 players FFA. And I pray they do success, or at least good enough where Bandai don't drop it.
My answer to the question in the title: Not sure, but I hope so, I love Gundam, and was bummed out when i heard the last gundam TCG EoS'd in 2018 when I was still in school.
Really I just hope it going to success because a lot of the Gundam stuff just flops so hard a great example is that f2p Overwatch clone that flop hard
FWIW, Digimon is also on its like 3rd iteration I believe? It definitely took them a minute to get something that sticks and they definitely believe they found the formula with it (and obviously One Piece.) I agree that it won’t surpass OPCG, but with the Gundam fan base and similar enough mechanics to their other games that obviously work well enough, I think it might contend with Digimon for their 2nd most popular spot.
Yeah I’m definitely celebrating if it’s like Digimon and this is the attempt where they finally nail it!
Kira yamato not "retiring" when his unit is destroyed MUST BE a Mechanic! It would not be canon otherwise 😂
i think they want to keep the mechanics simple to make the game accessible from a collecting, and playing perspective. I used to love yugioh growing up, then the cards became their own paragraphs in tiny font...sitting there wanting to have fun, instead it turned into collective reading lol. this is the best next option to Gunpla, and the Warhammer style table top game people were trying to popularize but never went far.
Looks awesome. I am not going to quit Cardfight but will pick up the new Gundam cards as well. Hopefully Bandai stays with it. You are right they are quick to abandon stuff.
there's a new Gundam TCG??? my wallet gonna die!!! 😭😭😭😭 i dont care about the competitive scene I only want to collect Gundam things!! 😍😍😍
Gameplay and Mechanic will probably be a mixed of what the other TCGs under bandai are doing which may be interesting. My biggest worry is that their production won't be able to keep up with all the games they're pushing, Gundam is the 7th modern day TCG from them now; BSS, Digimon, One Piece, DBSW, DBSFW, Union Arena, and now Gundam. If they are planning to match JP and Global timing for gundam that'd be great but that means they'll need to print a lot to keep up for all around the world.
Also Digimon Global is expected to be on release parity with Japan in the first half of 2025, which means they too will also need to have a lot of product push to meet the world wide demand. And I would expect they'll want the same for One Piece sooner or later, that means they'll be printing so many cards both in Japanese and English for at least 2 games, possibly 3 in the future, that I'll question if there isn't a stock inventory issue and that distributors and stores don't get enough product as a whole, as well as the overall quality possibly declining due to needing to meet demand.
I still have cards from the old Card game. They were pretty cool
DBS e Digimon players seeing new brothers to eat the cake haha
Winter is coming
Having played Sunrise Crusade and Gundam War I'm glad to see certain mechanics retaining but I am still somewhat skeptical about the game itself seeing how its a lot more simplified version of the OG Gundam War/Sunrise Crusade. There was a tweet that sorta brought back faith seeing how even certain people are skeptical in Japan twitter but they're going to give it a try and support the game with maximum effort.
Hopefully it picks up in Malaysia.
Whether it succeeds or not, i'm buying.
Can you do a video about the upcoming english released stardust blade special series deckset
It honestly feels a bit too safe, like it could've just been a collab deck in any of these games, which it actually was in Battle Spirits.
yeah it def feels way too safe like it didnt even try to have something like digimon's memory system. even the game board they shown in the live stream felt like one they use in some generic card game.
shields are also something thats a bit frustrating to me personally cause i hate it when stuff i need gets placed into shields, like sure deck building issue but i like it more when they try new things instead of playing it safe.
It feels like the Gundam Arsenal Base might have been a test bed for this TCG. The new cards disappear faster than Bandai could keep up and people collect them like mad.
I really hope they have some switch out mechanics with the Strike or the Impulse, since those Gundam specifically have a gimmick where it changes specialties
I'm a Gundam fan, and will definitely pick this up. But, gotta be honest, high percentage of the gameplay is similar to other Bandai tcgs, the Link and Lv is somehow unique but with the a slight touch of digimon inherent and Lv. Overall Bandai TCG, from attacking, to blocking, to resource, they are using just the same system, which originated to Duel Master.
im really excited for it. I quit vanguard in 2020 with the reboot, and and ive bought into a lot of games trying to capture that lightning in the bottle. I've mostly given up on that, but I've enjoyed cycling through bandai card games, and Mecha are cool and underrepresented in cards! My biggest issue with the game is that there are just too many games. TCGs hae a quick release schedule, and a LOT of churn points (basically every set), so if you have too many games, its possible to get fatigued by games in general and drop out.
I love gundam :D I played tons of hour of Versus serie on PSP, arcade and now on PS4. Got tons of gunpla! and now anime since 89 been watching (in chinese (cantonese)) it and now we get a new TCG?? as I live in Sweden it will quite hard to get these cards.. but will my best like I did with one piece to get all ST packs :D
Isnt the game having a simultaneous release?
Asa kid i was big into gindam wing. I really wanted the ms war card game but never got any
Im pretty excited about this
As someone who had supported Gundam Cross wars from its inception until its closure, I am very apprehensive on the new card game. I will look with bated breath into only buying singles instead of outright booster boxes like on cross wars out of the fear of it dying again and I don't really like the gameplay as compared to the easier to track hearthstone like gameplay (at the cost of health being recovered to full which can be imbalanced for some strats without any dice tracking) of cross wars.
Very promising just with the fact they straight introduce 2v2 and battle royal "EDH esque" format right of the bat.
I prob never seen TCG (not LCG) did that before. Also bandai did good recently with TCG, unlike what they used to. They handled one piece pretty good, digimon while not as good also not in bad spot.
I agreed with most things you said about multiple failed versions of the card games. However, I think Digimon shows that no matter how many times they try it. The current state of bandai TCGs will let it thrive.
Might give it a try, especially if tournament prizing is good enough, maybe it'll push Konami to up their game.
After watching the gameplay rules video, does it feel like duel masters to anyone else?
So far I think I like altered TCG gameplay the best, but it still isn't my ideal game. The bases sound like defender cards, I like the comeback mechanic from the life cards, and I am not sure which health system would be the best. I much prefer the star wars unlimited or altered resource system though, drawing multiple cards and putting X amount into your mana zone
As long as it's complex/competitive enough and have a nice amount of "waifu" cards.
I sure hope it succeeds, I love gundam. But we barely have card shops that will host it, if at all I'm afraid
Was really looking forward to this after the reveal I can confirm..... i will play this but it is Dead on arrival
The Newtypes hiding among us will dominate!
They got me with MS War all the way back when. They ain't getting me again lmao
Damn I hope it does. They have to prove to us that the game will last and wont be added to there graveyard like the others. I hate buying cards then having them be pointless. I love collecting but I really don't care if thats all im doing. Im trying to play
The difference between One Piece Digimon and Gundam is that Gundam is actually a good IP
Its going to b3 a ahit show if one piece is anything to go by these cards will be impossible to get because every store will get 3 to 4 boxes and then sell it for a 50 percent markup
Flash timing (bashin dan voice)
It looks promising. Watching the gameplay it borrows a little bit from the other bandai tcgs. We will see what happens. As a Gundam fan ill be picking it up. Also the card fest will be in my area so I might get the pre order beta😂
I think they should handle their balancing issues with one piece and their black cards vs making more games - but whatever
The game works a lot like one piece imo, but with bases and shield instead of life cards. And damage seems to stay with counters (dice)
Me about to build Azorius Unicorn Aerial frame 1
they should’ve kept Batspi as their main TCG for their IPs 😭
When i opened my card shop, my first product was gundam cross wars.
Then i got vg... Sadness
As much I will like to play this card game but for me I rather play the video game of gundam more then playing the card game even bandi has so many opportunity to make gundam board game with the model build because people invested alot of money to build and custom their gundam by hand to show off their gundam but people want to use them like a Warhammer style so it can feel like it's more then a display. Sure the card game is great but for a long run it all depends on how many people are willing to invest their money in this game and how big of a crowd they will get from it.
If they don't fuck it up and market for competitive players, sure!
Won’t matter when/if I can’t find cards….
Over here in America most of us grew up watching toonami on cartoon network, it aired gundam wing and unicorn to name a couple it’s being received very well, and I’ve seen discourse of the card backs too. Also one piece have buddy fights(2v2) that they host at regionals for rewards sometimes.
I was sad to miss the beta box on pbandai
As cool as it is to see gundam card game coming out with the success of the recent games I feel they have to many card games rn and Bandai needs to calm down
Keep the thumbnail but add the newtype flash to your pic.
50 card deck is hyoe because thats how many sleees come in a standard sleeve pack
I didnt even get to pre order it all the pre orders are gone ;w;
Kris will you play Pokemon pocket
Mixed feelings about it, mainly because of how Bandai handles product distribution and is competing with itself in the TCG market with Digimon, One Piece and Union Arena.
Battle spirits and Battle Spirits Saga
Of course it will succeed. (I haven’t watch the video yet)
Bandai is creating new competition to their own card games, so while it might not outright fail, it will probably be around for some time and that's that.
I just hope you can play all the language cards for official tourneys. I don't know why it's always jp for SEA
Oh that be perfect, because if we can I don't care if I can read the card or not I'll get the cheapest version of the card.
it might be 2 times the price of a HG might as well get a HG for gundam
Tbf they had how many digimon games before the newest one stuck
You and I know that this is most likely not gonna go well, honestly bandai really should have contracted someone else for this
This looks kinda similar to Star Wars unlimted. Which Star Wars unlimted is a great game.
I miss vanguard zero....
Sadly even if it does come to the west it probably won’t be popular at all
To answer the title of the video , no it will not succeed. Not because of competition but because of Bandai itself. They simply don't know how to sell their products, I am pretty sure there will be a lot of hoops/complicated stuff to do just to get these gundam TCG, just like how they complicate selling some of their new gunplas and make it a limited release under PBandai smh.
I'm really interested in the game, however my issue rn just tends to the fact that I care for none of the release titles. This is basically the same reason why I didn't played One Piece because other than the main cast, I can't remember anyone else other than Crocodile and Enel😂. I'll definitely be excited to play when 00/Build Divers arrives though
I know a lot of people in the same boat too, I guess they tried to target the ones with the biggest fanbases worldwide so it makes sense for a launch title pool
Let me find out I can play with 00 or Iron Blooded orphan characters.
never play tcg gundam.. but i do not think it will have a lot playerbase, i could be wrong. i also hype for Battle Spirit switch on Nov. Kris also will play right? Battle Spirits? when is out.
in japan? Yes
any other country? No
It will succeed for 1 year n get 'restarted'