"Every teacher that read Lolita and took as an inpirational work," is the kind of quote that makes me glad, oh so very glad, that I am experiencing this "movie" second hand.
I swear to god that literally every writer in Hollywood is now a D- English student who never learned "show, don't tell" and was nepoed into their job.
"Show Don't Tell" is actually a holdover from the New Deal, oddly enough. Long story short, this became a "rule" of writing that was actually spread to prevent Leftist fiction from being produced. Look it up. This "rule" of fiction is based on making "both sides" the defacto starting point for anything fictional.
I have no plans to watch the movie, but the trailer I saw seemed to suggest this would be a story of a clueless but well meaning teacher who becomes the obsession of a beautiful student, and when she accuses him of acting inappropriately his reputation and career are put under threat. I thought the movie would be a "he said/she said" retelling of events, with the audience going back and forth on whether Miller crossed a line, with everyone around him making assumptions for or against him, with flashbacks by a possibly unreliable narrator. Apparently that was too difficult.
I’m so done with he-said-she-said movies. She’s always lying in movies while in reality she’s almost always telling the truth. It’s just not fun watching propaganda for the false rape allegation epidemic myth
Why do people insist in these kind of themes? It hurts teachers (they look like predators) it hurts SA victims (it reinforces the idea about the false denounce)...
This description of the circumstances of this movie's production feels to me like the writer/director was either the beneficiary of some sort of nepotism or blackmailed people to get this movie made. Or maybe sometimes the money bags on this just completely randomly funds a film?
Seems 90% of Netflix films have high production values, a bunch of stars,and a plot that was constructed from a bunch of "TV Tropes" cliches. I keep getting suckered into watching them from the premise, and usually give up after 15 minutes as the total lack of any creativity becomes undeniable.
Hilarious and spot on review. It is validating to have someone confirm your own frustration with a film. It was also confusing how most of the characters vacillate in indeterminate ways with confused intentions or motivations. This was especially true for Boris, who seems uninterested in Winnie, then interested, then inappropriate, then reels it all in & goes after Jon's wife! But yea, a work by Humbert Humbert. And you gotta have the miniskirts!
Everyone knows that "The Boy Next Door" with Jennifer Lopez already perfected the story of forbidden love between a literature teacher and a student so it pains and shocks me that anyone would ever dare try to produce another such film.
I would propose a new rating system for movies like this. Instead of out of four or five or ten, rate it out of one. Zero out of one: Absolutely unwatchable One out of one: A standard terrible film, bad at even being bad Two out of one: Watchable, if you have no standards, but forgettably bad Three out of one: Enjoyable despite terribleness. Guilty pleasure. Four out of one: Gleefully, deliciously terrible
You are very correct not to do numerical ratings. I've never understood those. "Wow, this movie four goods out of five possible goods? That seems like either a lot of goods or a very high concentration of goodness in specific parts! I now feel confident I will think this movie is good because the first number is quite close in value to the second, maximum number!"
I genuinely wonder how good actor get roped into doing these hackneyed films because it couldn't be the script. I can only speculate that this Jade Halley Bartlett is their friend and they were doing her a favour.
I love Steve’s liberal use of the ‘F’ word. He seems to squeeze it into almost every video at least once. Also his stated disdain for child characters always makes me smile.
I’m finally watching the film, and as well made and acted as it is by the halfway point. I can’t help but want much worse things to happen to everyone because they are so pretentious. I personally can not recommend this to any one, but I will be writing it in to every Late Seating viewer poll until they are forced to review it.
If you thought Ewan McGregor was the master of ruining any film with his attempts at an accent...Brace yourself for Martin Freeman in this mess of a film. Wasn't there an American actor or someone with the ability to sound even remotely American available?
I like not using a rating system. I find that to me the most important aspect of a film is the vibe you get while watching it, how well does it help me escape my mundane American life of eat, work, sleep, repeat? I've found sometimes otherwise really horrible movies punch way above their weight in this regard and are worth watching as long as you're not expecting to watch the best movie ever made.
Movie had decent acting/directing and the dialogue was pretty good. The third act was just terrible. Nobody would even know this movie exists if it wasn't for the cast.
It’s a fairly exhausted theme: the teacher and student romance, and this movie adds little if anything new. The only purpose lesbianism serves in this movie as well is to titillate heterosexuals, which is an even more exhausted theme. Overall: good actors make the most of what they were given to work with.
All true, which also makes it even stranger to me that this is a first film by a director who apparently has barely worked in the film industry before this. Usually a first film is either something that's obviously very personal, or a clever reinterpretation of some established formula. This movie doesn't feel personal, and it's definitely not clever or inventive. So, I'm sort of at a loss to explain how it attracted enough interest and support to get made.
So wait, Steve implies that Cairo is a self-insert character for Bartlett, so this is HER fantasy? Like the attraction of the movie is on the side of the student rather than the teacher? I don't get it.
I loved that movie. Fuck social conversation. It portray a 2 lost souls. Built from yearning and circumstances. Reinforcement from hurt and then playing it as they meant to. It can be used in any story any person. But between a teacher and a student it’s more impactful and a great choice.
![Mr Miller and Cairo - Their Full Story [ Miller's Girl ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Zxd096OR3CA/mqdefault.jpg)
"Every teacher that read Lolita and took as an inpirational work," is the kind of quote that makes me glad, oh so very glad, that I am experiencing this "movie" second hand.
I swear to god that literally every writer in Hollywood is now a D- English student who never learned "show, don't tell" and was nepoed into their job.
"Show Don't Tell" is actually a holdover from the New Deal, oddly enough. Long story short, this became a "rule" of writing that was actually spread to prevent Leftist fiction from being produced.
Look it up. This "rule" of fiction is based on making "both sides" the defacto starting point for anything fictional.
I have no plans to watch the movie, but the trailer I saw seemed to suggest this would be a story of a clueless but well meaning teacher who becomes the obsession of a beautiful student, and when she accuses him of acting inappropriately his reputation and career are put under threat. I thought the movie would be a "he said/she said" retelling of events, with the audience going back and forth on whether Miller crossed a line, with everyone around him making assumptions for or against him, with flashbacks by a possibly unreliable narrator. Apparently that was too difficult.
A more interesting idea for sure.
I’m so done with he-said-she-said movies. She’s always lying in movies while in reality she’s almost always telling the truth. It’s just not fun watching propaganda for the false rape allegation epidemic myth
Although, based on Steve's review, it does sound far more _fun_ than that objectively bad but objectively better story.
As an English teacher, I can TOTALLY relate to this... no, wait. No I can't. Gross.
When the teacher starts to put up boundaries, the way you describe what happens next sounds like the third act of Oleanna.
Is is plausible that the script was actually written by a Large Language Model program, and only *edited* by Bartlett?
It does sometimes play like the punchline to an "I made an AI watch every student/teacher affair movie ever made and this is what it wrote" meme.
Why do people insist in these kind of themes? It hurts teachers (they look like predators) it hurts SA victims (it reinforces the idea about the false denounce)...
Good review even if I haven't watched the movie. You should do more of these non-Star Wars related movie reviews, you have a knack for it.
This description of the circumstances of this movie's production feels to me like the writer/director was either the beneficiary of some sort of nepotism or blackmailed people to get this movie made.
Or maybe sometimes the money bags on this just completely randomly funds a film?
Seems 90% of Netflix films have high production values, a bunch of stars,and a plot that was constructed from a bunch of "TV Tropes" cliches. I keep getting suckered into watching them from the premise, and usually give up after 15 minutes as the total lack of any creativity becomes undeniable.
Cairo, "I have parents, but you wouldn't know them; they live in another country... Canada."
The biscuit sub-plot was left in to pad the 93 min runtime. Just a guess. I love Martin and Jenna too much to watch.
Hilarious and spot on review. It is validating to have someone confirm your own frustration with a film.
It was also confusing how most of the characters vacillate in indeterminate ways with confused intentions or motivations. This was especially true for Boris, who seems uninterested in Winnie, then interested, then inappropriate, then reels it all in & goes after Jon's wife!
But yea, a work by Humbert Humbert. And you gotta have the miniskirts!
That is one of the most amazing reviews I've ever heard. I'm sure I got much more enjoyment out of this than I would the movie...
Everyone knows that "The Boy Next Door" with Jennifer Lopez already perfected the story of forbidden love between a literature teacher and a student so it pains and shocks me that anyone would ever dare try to produce another such film.
I would propose a new rating system for movies like this. Instead of out of four or five or ten, rate it out of one.
Zero out of one: Absolutely unwatchable
One out of one: A standard terrible film, bad at even being bad
Two out of one: Watchable, if you have no standards, but forgettably bad
Three out of one: Enjoyable despite terribleness. Guilty pleasure.
Four out of one: Gleefully, deliciously terrible
You are very correct not to do numerical ratings. I've never understood those. "Wow, this movie four goods out of five possible goods? That seems like either a lot of goods or a very high concentration of goodness in specific parts! I now feel confident I will think this movie is good because the first number is quite close in value to the second, maximum number!"
Five bags of popcorn for this comment
Oleanna and now…this. Either Steve is ensnares in an algorithm or we’re ensnared in his.
This sounds almost like a parody.
I genuinely wonder how good actor get roped into doing these hackneyed films because it couldn't be the script. I can only speculate that this Jade Halley Bartlett is their friend and they were doing her a favour.
Being sold on the story, and then getting the script after they signed up already.
so its basically 'the crush' (but with jenna ortega instead of alicia silverstone as the 'object of desire'??)
The ick is over 9000
'"The Friends of Mr. Cairo"
I love Steve’s liberal use of the ‘F’ word. He seems to squeeze it into almost every video at least once.
Also his stated disdain for child characters always makes me smile.
Miller's girl is a parody
Blue Angel novel exactly this story I read 20 years ago.Jenna is great and I’m a fan.
I’m finally watching the film, and as well made and acted as it is by the halfway point. I can’t help but want much worse things to happen to everyone because they are so pretentious. I personally can not recommend this to any one, but I will be writing it in to every Late Seating viewer poll until they are forced to review it.
If Jim McAllister from Election wrote a movie, it would be this.
If you thought Ewan McGregor was the master of ruining any film with his attempts at an accent...Brace yourself for Martin Freeman in this mess of a film. Wasn't there an American actor or someone with the ability to sound even remotely American available?
I like not using a rating system. I find that to me the most important aspect of a film is the vibe you get while watching it, how well does it help me escape my mundane American life of eat, work, sleep, repeat? I've found sometimes otherwise really horrible movies punch way above their weight in this regard and are worth watching as long as you're not expecting to watch the best movie ever made.
Yeesh that sounds terrible, thanks for helping me avoid it
Man, it's always the English teachers.
Right? As a physics teacher, I feel slighted.
So basically, _Been There, Done That with Jenna Ortega_
Phrasing!
Movie had decent acting/directing and the dialogue was pretty good. The third act was just terrible. Nobody would even know this movie exists if it wasn't for the cast.
It’s a fairly exhausted theme: the teacher and student romance, and this movie adds little if anything new.
The only purpose lesbianism serves in this movie as well is to titillate heterosexuals, which is an even more exhausted theme.
Overall: good actors make the most of what they were given to work with.
All true, which also makes it even stranger to me that this is a first film by a director who apparently has barely worked in the film industry before this. Usually a first film is either something that's obviously very personal, or a clever reinterpretation of some established formula. This movie doesn't feel personal, and it's definitely not clever or inventive. So, I'm sort of at a loss to explain how it attracted enough interest and support to get made.
So wait, Steve implies that Cairo is a self-insert character for Bartlett, so this is HER fantasy? Like the attraction of the movie is on the side of the student rather than the teacher? I don't get it.
The director should have just written some smut
New to your channel, really great post. So, great, I am newly confounded as to whether or not to watch this film!
welcome in -- you should watch his other 'review' content if you enjoyed your time here on this video hes great
I found one nobody seems to do.. the movie is freaky.. curious
Cairo?!? Oh good god this is shlock
I'm sure if we're supposed to think of The Cure or Peter Lorre.
Maybe a judicious mixture of both.
So it's Oleanna with a creepy romantic spin?
Dear lord what a mess XDD
I think my appreciation of cringe is too low for me to enjoy this.
What is this.....?
I know what this is
A fever dream
the socks they gave her make it twice as gross
pssst... you're telling on yourself.
So basically this is a fanfic of 50 Shades, but shipping Bilbo with Wednesday. Got it.
You nailed it this does feel like Wednesday fan fiction I was having a hard time describing this film
I loved that movie. Fuck social conversation. It portray a 2 lost souls. Built from yearning and circumstances. Reinforcement from hurt and then playing it as they meant to. It can be used in any story any person. But between a teacher and a student it’s more impactful and a great choice.
Okay then.
6:09
Why is something like this stinker made in 2024?!?!