I had those 235/85 16's on my 3rd gen 4runner and I loved them. Yes, they looked skinny when compared to all the other guys on the trail rides. But they worked so well and I didn't have to cut any bodywork or need to change wheels or modify the suspension.
You don't have to cut, or bend anything to run 265/75r16s. You "may have to" for 285/75r16s. But from the factory, 265/75r16s don't rub even at full flex with the sway bar removed.
I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Australia, a big factor when choosing a size for an overlanding rig, is to choose the most common option, so you can get a replacement wherever you go. 265/75 is available in almost every brand, whereas 235/85 is very limited.
I am in the US but I consider that as well my truck came with a 245/75 but will fit 285/75 without much issues but the 265/75 is easier to find so that is what I run
I run the tallest and narrowest tire i can. Never had a problem with traction and narrower is less resistance off road or on road helping fuel economy. Also if your spare fits underneath your truck narrower hangs down less. One more thing if you go off road alot airing up and down takes less time with narrower tires. It sounds crazy but a few minutes per tire adds up.
I'd go with the 235-85. They are lighter, and I like the look. Also it'll be better in the snow. (Although the winter rating may not seem as important as a long mileage warranty, one accident avoidance changes all of that).
Had to switch from 265 bf to 235 bf on my landrover defender …bigger tires caused a lot of steering wobbling …solved it with 235 bf mud terrain …great steering …lighter …better gas mileage….great performance too …love your channel jimmy 👍🏼
Any good off-road instructor will tell you that the 235/85/16 is the gold standard! Especially for the Defender!!! The bigger A.Ts will quickly make a lot of noise on the road as soon as they are a third worn and do not have the 3pmsf approval which authorizes to be driven on snow (in Europe it is the law) and M.S will not tell you not allow, even if the tires have a good performance! In addition, as Jimmy says so well, the bigger ones have a harder rubber, so good for the lifespan but less good for snow, mud, and much noisier... so, apart from the look, I don't see any interest.
Been running the 265's on my Tahoe since I got it. Compares and performs as equal to my buddies with big overkill tires. Never got stuck and actually pulled them out of mud and snow with ease. Stock 4x4 by the way.
I took a chance on Falken Wildpeak AT3W's for my Z71 Sierra (stock size 265/75/16) 2 years ago. They're still over half tread. Besides the Bilstein 5100's shocks, these tires are the best upgrade I've ever made to my truck🤘.
I have this size on my dodge Cummins. Chinese tires called " capital. Found the receipt yesterday. 9 years old now but nearing replacement stage.also I don't put on a lot of miles each year.
Got these brand new on a 2022 rubicon jeep gladiator 285/70R17 so far fantastic in the snow ❄ and ice. Too busy working to test out off road in summer...yet.
Lol this whole video gave me a headache, i have a 89 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, came with a 145hp 280ft lbs torque 5.9 liter engine, yes 145hp thanks to 70s emissions bs.. But its got plenty of power for 31-33-35 inch tires, you just have to regear the diff's.
A narrow tire will be lighter at the OD meaning it has a lower polar moment of inertia, therefore it will take less HP to spin. The tires all have the same outer diameter (more or less) and the polar moment of inertia makes more of a difference on acceleration.
If you're staying clear of deep mud and soft sand, go for the skinnies, it's clear you understand the advantages. Though, mileage in my 95 sub isn't bad on the 265/70/16 I had on when staying down at the 55-60 mph range. It's still truck mileage, but comparable to the newer Chevy's.
kstricl. imgnation milage? 5.7. will not get more then 12-13mpg that is why those old 1995s have 42 gallon tanks mind you my 6.0l. hybrid gets 24-25.5. on the highway. the highest ever was 26.7mpg hyw
@@juliosdiy3206 did my research, and I am completely happy with Gerneral Altimax Rt43 on my AWD RAV4.. I was considering going with two separate sets of tires, all season and then a set of winter tires. Went with the Generals and couldn't be happier with all around performance in all conditions. I read, at that time I bought mine, make sure they are the Altimax RT43, not the regular Altimax. I even go on some trails for camping, not serious off road trails, but they sometimes get muddy. I haven't had a problem yet after a few years with them. I have used BFG AT's , and also some Firestone tires on previous 4 wheel drive vehicles that sadly disappointed during winter months.
Jimmy, I like your videos up until recently when you've started making them very click-bate like. I understand that it's a trend, but your videos were fine without following this trend. Lately I've stopped watching because of the click-bate nature of your videos.
Precisely what I thought.........makes one loose interest in the video........... I kept skipping 10 secs till the end.........to find nothing of significance.
I always go 1-2 sizes wider for trucks and SUVs. They're already top heavy so stock and skinnier tires can cause problems in emergency maneuvers leading to a roll over. My 06 Silverado came with 245/70-17, but it has 18" rims (09 rims). Previously had 265/65-18 but that meant the speedo was off due to being taller. So with new tires I went with 265/60-18 which is same height as stock but a full 1" wider and I love how it runs and drives now. Better grip, less roll under on corners, and slightly better mileage (average 17mpg city with 5.3L and NV3500).
Don't mistake me, I'm not calling you a liar or anything but, it doesn't make sense that a wider tire could improve mileage. Wider tire = more tread on the road = more friction = lower mpg. I don't know, perhaps you are getting slightly better mpg but, it doesn't make any sense to me.
The reason you're getting 'better' mileage is because your new tires are slightly smaller diameter than your last tires, with 159 mm sidewalls as compared to 172.25 mm sidewall. Your speedo is still calibrated at XXX revolutions per mile, but each revolution is smaller. Basically, unless you recalibrated your speedo, the odometer is also off, showing more miles than you have actually traveled.
Tire width has zero effect on vehicle stability. CG height, sidewall height, sidewall stiffness, and track width make the difference. All the tires he looked at were the same diameter, so the sidewall height was the same. Sidewall stiffness may have been different, but that's unlikely since they were the same model of tire. He's keeping the stock rims, so the track width isn't changing. Both options were taller than the factory tires, so he is raising the CG slightly. Either way he goes he will have the same stability, just slightly less than stock.
You also need to consider your contact patch with the road. How big is the contract patch? The more contact with the road, the better the traction with it.
Back in the 1970's we were loggers in western Montana. We always used tall skinny tires on our work pickups and would we would go circles around pickups with wide fat tires, especially in snow and ice..
I check your videos before (sometimes after) doing anything on my suburban to check if I’m making or made the right decisions. Thank you for your channel and advice 🔥
This is only true if there's something to bite down there. And with the 8 in of ground clearance he has this would never become a factor. Skinny tires are never the option. I work in construction and I can tell you lgp tires are the way to go. There is never a scenario where less contact patch gives you more traction.
With a more narrow tire you get less traction and less stability, and your vehicle can easily flip over in an emergency manuver, such as avoiding a pot hole or animal in the roadway..Also, it will wear out faster because the weight of the vehicle is concentrated in a smaller area vs a wider tire that's able to distribute the weight of the vehicle more evenly 🤠
From experience please don't go with the narrower tires. My 2001 GMC had narrow tires and every time I go to do something like get a stack of wood or pull off the road I would sink and have to get help to pull the beast out. With the factory tires my truck would go all the way to the axles. Now I have gone with wider tires no more sinking and a lot better ride.
I just bought falken tires 285-75-16 which is almost a 33 and almost a 10 inch tire. I am going to "add a leaf" spring to the rear and do a 4 inch lift to my 96 burb. Tires are awesome and can't wait for the lift.
At my age it don't matter anyhow, ah, what was I talking about? I'll have another cup of coffee, was it important? Oh never mind. Ya know there was a time, time, bed time I think. nite
Did basically the same thing to my 04 Exploder. Whatever the stick width was I found a tire that was the same but went from a 65 aspect to an 85. Looked night and day better. May have also contributed to the trans exploding, who knows.
My F250 came with th 265 and I went with the 235s as I got a set (both BFG) for a good deal but I changed back after a few months as the 235s had a harsher ride and didn't feel as stable!
I have the 265s on my 97 Tahoe with no lift. No rubbing, great all around traction. And, being a little firmer ride is a plus on the road for these trucks. I tow a 8500lbs boat often.
265/75R16 is the factory size for the Z71 package. I have a set of them on my 98, usually get 60-80K out of a set driving mostly highway. On my 4th set, love them.
My 95 k1500 is not a z71 and it came stock with 265/75R16. With a 2in lift 285/75r16 are perfect. Almost no difference in mpg. 235's are a waste of money. I stopped running big years ago they suck in the rain. Nitto's or toyo's are way better in all conditions.
It depends on where you drive and how old you are. After all if you live somewhere the weather is mostly mild than smaller and harder is a better deal. If your fifty or older your going to find climbing to get in the truck a burden. The thing is take all things in consideration not just what looks good bang for the buck is often misinterpreted.
That depends on what's on the road. When roads arnt plowed I've found a little fatter tire bits a little better. Even though you float on top of it better. But yes in most cases the skinnier tire is better. But I'd say just go with a 10.5 wide snow tire (assuming it's a suv or truck) and you cant complain with that
If you want taller and narrow, I believe BFG still makes a 255/85R16. Taller than both of those and still narrower than the 265. Of your 2 choices, I would go with the 265.
The 85 series tire is what I buy, 215-235-255 they all work awesome and 99% of the time you can only buy them in ten ply, I go have all three of them on vehicles that I own, I also run 285/75r16 when looking for a larger size
@Robert Manning Another thing this guy needs to be aware of, don’t worry about a rougher ride!!! If you don’t put a 10ply tire on that Suburban, you won’t get a normal years worth of driving out of those tires!!! I mistakenly had a set of B F GOODRICH Long Trail 4ply Tires in the 265/75/16 tire size put on my truck(they had a 50,000 mile warranty on them as well) and they were just shy of bald when I had to replace them in LESS THAN A YEAR!!!! I would not have thrown my money away like that if I had know that they were only a 4ply tire!!!! On a vehicle like his Suburban or my F-150, tire size is not the only consideration!!! These vehicles weigh more than normal passenger cars, so having a tire with a *’P’* rating put on a vehicle that weighs over 5,000lbs curb weight is the wrong type of tire for that vehicle!!!! Don’t buy a tire solely on its tread life warranty!!!! But tires that are rated for the vehicle weight that you are putting those tires on!!! Where I live, the roads are filled with potholes, up and down grades with curves thrown in there and the normal everyday passenger car tire will not hold up to that kind of punishment on a truck!!! With the EXCEPTION of the 4ply tires that I bought not realizing that they were only 4ply; I have never had any tires with less that 8ply on this truck and I never should have focused on the per tire price and warranty for that set of tires!!! What I will focus on now and will as long as I continue to own this truck or any like it in the future, is the number of plys of steel belts and rubber between my truck and the road!!! The B F Goodrich tires I have on my truck now are 10ply KO2’s!!! They are noisy, but I’ve already had them on my truck for the better part of 2 years and other than some minor cupping, they appear to have nearly the same tread depth they had when I purchased them!!!
Yes. I run a set of K02’s on my 150 10ply with an E load rating. They have been great tires I have put over 80000km on them in 3.5 years with a mix of regular driving and towing a travel trailer. I am at the point where I need to think about replacing them and I will buy the K02 again.
I run the mastercraft 10 ply courser cxts 1 level below the mud terrain and yes thats also because I already own the 10 ply mud terrains mtxs, and have a Goodyear 8 ply Goodyear all terrain authority radials for during the summer, 265 75 r 16 10 ply is always the way to go
I have replaced the tires on my f150. I am not going to ever do any heavy hauling with it, it is more just a fun truck, farm truck, go to town truck. I decided to go with P instead of LT tires. Same size but didn't need the stronger sidewalls. I also noted that the tires are rounder at the edge of the tread. Where as LT are more square. They were also less expensive to buy until I decided what wheel and size of wheel I want to run...
Not quite the same but have been running 285/75R16 mud tires on a 1997 5.4 Expedition, no lift. 3.73 final drive and drives better than with the stock 245 or 265 tires.
I read a report years ago that the tall narrow tires work better in snow and mud! The wider tires tend to float instead of tracking as well. Look at what the military uses they've gone fron tall narrow to wide but wide with cleats/blocks so they work better and dig.
The 235s wouldn’t do very good in sand or mud. If you’re set on true pizza cutters look into the 255/85/16 rubber comes out to 33/10/16. Keeps you a little taller and you’re in the middle. Air down and you’ll have plenty of width for traction.
I'd always go with the bigger wider tire because you have more surface area, plus thinner tires are going to show it in the curves driving on the road. I'll always go bigger, but never smaller
There are some pluses for the 235's. #1 they are easier on the wheel bearings, #2 they will last a bit longer and they will do better in the snow. Most of the comments here refer to the looks which is ok but I also like a tires performance.
My experience has been the complete opposite of that. Fatter tires have done much better for me in snow, sand, mud conditions hmmmmm All that and he went with the wider tires 😂🤦♂️
TLDW: Depends on what your gonna use it for. Daily driver? Go wide/stock Off Road Toy? Skinny is fine. My lifted (3” body) 95 burb ran 285/75r16, she ran great and was a beast on the back road when I needed her to be. Your welcome
Same. My beast PERFORMED so much better. Those little tires aren’t gonna last very long with that weight he’s got. She needs some meat on them bones; The more the cushion the more pushin’ lol
I ran this size on my 01 Tahoe. As heavy as it is ,I was happy with the traction off road. A skinny tire digs to much with all that wait in the winter on my soft ground. Gass mileage sucked but didn't get stuck as much
Harder compound will last longer but not "flex" as well in colder temps. I change tires. In my 20-plus years almost everyone with that model Suburban goes with the 265. they seem to like that 1
Keep in mind when you go to a different size tire and stiffer sidewall load that the factory recommended tire pressure may go out the door, you may need to adjust your tire pressure without going over the tires max pressure, I use the chalk method and an open parking lot, of course this will change when carrying a load or towing, just a thought
@@a-dog8075 find a flat open area like a parking lot or your street, take a piece of chalk and shade a line in one or two spots completely across the tire tread from side to side, drive forward and back as straight as possible without turning, look at your chalk lines, if the center of your chalk lines are worn down or gone and the sides are not then the tire may be over inflated for the weight of the vehicle, what I look for is the even wear across the chalk line, I noticed on my truck that I could see light under the edges of my back tires while setting in the driveway, my truck is empty most of the time, I adjusted the tire pressure using this method to get even tire wear, keep in mind that to little air pressure can overheat a tire too, I hope this helps you
I have a 97 F250 HD and my truck came from the factory with that tire on it dad always told me that when he was in the military they had skinny tires on their vehicles so they would go through the mud so I replaced the tires with the same thing I've had the same drama you had I was thinking I might go to a bigger tire but the 85 is 10 ply so it has a very strong sidewall also but it rides rough ER to its more heavy-duty and it can withstand a large amount of weight if you put weight on them I like them they look cool they're skinny but they're also cheaper
See if they are available in load range c (6 ply rated) or d (8ply rated). Load range e (10ply rated) are way too heavy for a 1/2 to rated suburban. The c rated is plenty unless you plan to tow or haul large loads. If you can only get the e load range tire, you don't want to run anywhere near max tire pressure on the sidewall, which is usually 80 psi. 40 psi would be fine. Over inflation will make for a rough ride and wear the center of the tire. The BFG tire is a good choice. I think the 265s would be a good size with the lift kit and should not effect mileage and power much. Good luck.
Heck yeah, have a navara d22 with 285/75/16 talk about wind out of its sail up hill due to ratio effects the narrower tyre for me. Less rolling weight makes for slightly better acceleration and braking
How wide is your stock rim? How wide of a rim does the tire manufacturer suggest for the 265s? Will the 265s rub suspension parts when turning sharply?
I believe the stock rim on these trucks are 6.5 in I believe for 265 75 16 you need a minimum of a 7 inch rim I used to work in a tire shop years ago and used to see Rim flange failure because of people putting too wide of a tire on too narrow of a rim
Depends on the gears of course, and the use of vehicle. Taller and thinner is always better. Better psi on ground, and better ground clearance. A couple sizes up from OEM size usually best. Do the math to figure out power band of engine/drivetrain. Who cares what it LOOKS like. What actually works is what is important. BTW, the Wildpeaks are excellent off road and snow but not so good on road handling (Sqwalll Like crazy in cornering) BFG KO2s are excellent both (but lots more money)
Did you find out that a taller tire will throw off your speedometer anywhere between 5-10 miles an hour. So if you are going 55 on your speedometer you might only be going 50. So you have to get into your computer and program your tire size that you are running. And on older vehicles you have to change the gear on transmission at the place your speedometer cable goes into transmission.
I do like the 235 and that military look. I am contemplating that for my ram also. It is supposed to get the tread down into the snow better instead of floating on top.
Exactly what I was thinking but I do admit now that I have the 265/75 I’m loving them. Not too wide but definitely wide enough for the ‘stock’ look I wanted. Now, I don’t think I would like the extra skinny 235s..
I have the same size on my suburban but it's a 2500 so I gotta run lt tires. But my 99 yukon Denali factory size is 265 70 16. So I kinda like the lt feel. I found some hankook dynapro atms (rf10?) But there're 8 ply so it wont chatter my teeth lol but I like the handling of a lt tire. The suspension is not ment to support a lt tire anyways but an 8 ply is enough for some cushion but the handling and sidewall is perfect. Plus it has the tow package so a little extra is better. There warranty I think is 50,000 miles for lt also.
You got the lift... go with a bigger rim and tire. I have a 96 Yukon and put 37.5 X 12 tires on a set of 17" X 12 rims. She will crawl out of any mud hole ditch whatever. Those tiers your buying are not going to help a lot when you hit a mud hole or deep trench. Bigger wider make it through every time. I have a 3" body lift and a 6" Rough Country suspension lift. I am also swapping out the front and rear dif from a heavy half Silverado I wrecked last year, 6 springs in the rear, and a 14 bolt rear dif.
Went from 265/75/16 KO2 to 235/85/16 KO2 both 32” on my Tacoma TRD Offroad and what a difference. Better performance all around except in deep loose sand. Even 2mpg better in fuel consumption. No going back to wide tires. Some tell me they don’t like the look, I just say I don’t hang out at the mall. I want performance. Though for your bigger/heavier rig I might go with the 265.
You ever wonder back in the day when you bounced & spun & clawed your way up to a high mountain lake & just before you got to the top you thought man nobody could make it up here , then you top the mountain and there sits a VW bug .....What the .......!!!!!! We'll it had a lot to do with those skinny tires . More lbs per square, inch more traction , width & height ain't everything !!!! :-) just sayin !
Dedicated snow tires are usually a softer compound so the don't get high mileage compared to a standard tire. Guessing that's where the DT is different and better mileage
Either one of those tires is going to be noisier than what you are running. Also, (for everyone) always check the mfg dates on the tires before you allow them to be installed. Make sure they or within a year of mfg.
@@densilcardna Maybe we are talking 2 different things. NEVER buy a new tire that is more than a year past it's mfg date. I never saw that mentioned in any owners manual but not something I'd look for. I had tread separation on a set of Uniroyal's once. Because they were less than 5 years past mfg date, they replaced them for free. They were about half wore out. 3 years old.
Buy & use the wider tyre It will give better grip on soft & wet ground especially if it rains heavy. or even if you suffer with ice & snow in winter & make sure you have snow tracks to fit these extra wide tyres as standard ones won't fit (too small) unless they are ajustable. The wider ones will add a bit more fuel usage bur, not much more ( about 2 gallon per full tank) MAXIMUM!!! possibly less
Honestly 33x10.50 is the tire u want sounds like but it only comes in a 15in rim. Ide go with the smaller tire, with the stock gears and old parts it will do best on the road with the smaller tires once u get it built up then put the bigger tires like 315 75 16. That's what I want to put on my 99 f250 next time. I have the 235 85s on it now
He reminds me of scotty kilmer....instead of a good informative channel they both use the fear mongering negative titles....."never do this" "why you shouldn't do this" hell one video about changing the rear differential fluid the he had the red circle with "don't" next to it but it had nothing to do with the vid.
I've been running Goodrich TAs for years. They are good tires but I am growing tired of the sound, they're loud. I'm driving a F350 4wd. Thinking next tire will be the Cooper AT3 XLT. Truck is too heavy for a "mud truck" , just use it for a truck as it still needs to get off road. It came with 10 ply 265-75-16 but have been running 285-75-16 and it corrected the speedometer reading (per GPS speed). Don't know if anyone cares but I did want to share that they are noisy.
@John Gibson That is a consideration, but that is not a big issue if the vehicle was originally equipped with a comparable tire size! I have a 2003 Ford F-150 and the 265/70-75/16 is the tire size that I have had on my truck since I purchased it in 2008!!! With that said, GM is notorious for having the truck frame cracking where the steering gear box mounts to the frame!! That year model and several year models prior to his were notoriously problematic in this issue!!! The fix is to buy a piece of aftermarket steel plate with the mounting holes already made into it that bolts on to the back side of the GM frame which stiffens up the frame in that spot to reduce the amount of frame flex that leads to the cracking at the steering gearbox mounting point!!! My brother has owned at least three if not four or five GM trucks that have had cracks started in the frame from gearbox flex!!! He has either disregarded it entirely or bought steel to fix it with(not necessarily the aftermarket steel plate made for that fix!!!
Not gonna hurt that suburban. My 97 sierra was stock with 265/75/16...19 yrs and 198,000 miles..original ball joints..did other front end work.but they were still good..
Here’s a 4 year update on the tires: ruclips.net/video/niIG7e_wK8E/видео.html
your 95 suburban..looks great 👍🏽
I had those 235/85 16's on my 3rd gen 4runner and I loved them. Yes, they looked skinny when compared to all the other guys on the trail rides. But they worked so well and I didn't have to cut any bodywork or need to change wheels or modify the suspension.
You don't have to cut, or bend anything to run 265/75r16s. You "may have to" for 285/75r16s. But from the factory, 265/75r16s don't rub even at full flex with the sway bar removed.
@@Slking507Will they fit a stock hilux?
i got my tires from tire4coin
Who gives af
I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Australia, a big factor when choosing a size for an overlanding rig, is to choose the most common option, so you can get a replacement wherever you go. 265/75 is available in almost every brand, whereas 235/85 is very limited.
Exactly, imagine stuck out at Windorah waiting for a new tyre
Exactly
You could just get the closest size available until your back home to order 235/85
I am in the US but I consider that as well my truck came with a 245/75 but will fit 285/75 without much issues but the 265/75 is easier to find so that is what I run
@@MrMarkguth Oh yeah, or Narnia even.
This guy talks more than my girlfriend
Ewk VLOGS The first time I ever heard him I thought the same thing. LOL 😂
Is her name Carmen?
What do you want a mind meld you idiot
He should go away and talk about tampons, emotions, and relationships.
But does he put out like your girl is the ?
im buying 5 years tires from tire4coin
5 1/2 minutes into an 8:50 video and i’m still wondering what we should do before buying tires. This vid is a waste of time.
He does more babbling about nothing!
Will you please shut the hell up!
Excessive diarrhea of the mouth.
He has to be a salesman.
I forgot why I was watching it
Michael Cowan He's a photographer.
As are the few others he has out. Always check the comments before wasting time watching.
I run the tallest and narrowest tire i can. Never had a problem with traction and narrower is less resistance off road or on road helping fuel economy. Also if your spare fits underneath your truck narrower hangs down less. One more thing if you go off road alot airing up and down takes less time with narrower tires. It sounds crazy but a few minutes per tire adds up.
I'd go with the 235-85.
They are lighter, and I like the look.
Also it'll be better in the snow. (Although the winter rating may not seem as important as a long mileage warranty, one accident avoidance changes all of that).
Try the Mickey Thompson all terrain 255/85 17r’s. They are a 10” wide 34” tall tire.
Had to switch from 265 bf to 235 bf on my landrover defender …bigger tires caused a lot of steering wobbling …solved it with 235 bf mud terrain …great steering …lighter …better gas mileage….great performance too …love your channel jimmy 👍🏼
Any good off-road instructor will tell you that the 235/85/16 is the gold standard! Especially for the Defender!!! The bigger A.Ts will quickly make a lot of noise on the road as soon as they are a third worn and do not have the 3pmsf approval which authorizes to be driven on snow (in Europe it is the law) and M.S will not tell you not allow, even if the tires have a good performance! In addition, as Jimmy says so well, the bigger ones have a harder rubber, so good for the lifespan but less good for snow, mud, and much noisier... so, apart from the look, I don't see any interest.
Been running the 265's on my Tahoe since I got it. Compares and performs as equal to my buddies with big overkill tires. Never got stuck and actually pulled them out of mud and snow with ease. Stock 4x4 by the way.
If you've never been stuck, especially stock truck, then you've never been 4 wheeling. EVERYTHING can and will get stuck
I took a chance on Falken Wildpeak AT3W's for my Z71 Sierra (stock size 265/75/16) 2 years ago. They're still over half tread. Besides the Bilstein 5100's shocks, these tires are the best upgrade I've ever made to my truck🤘.
I have this size on my dodge Cummins. Chinese tires called " capital. Found the receipt yesterday. 9 years old now but nearing replacement stage.also I don't put on a lot of miles each year.
Got these brand new on a 2022 rubicon jeep gladiator 285/70R17 so far fantastic in the snow ❄ and ice. Too busy working to test out off road in summer...yet.
Personally I'd get the round one, say what you will but a round one has always been my choice. And the rounder the better.
Triangular tires will soon be the norm, and then we will all have the ride that we demand.
Lol 😆 yes....
Yup, get the round ones
I prefer black. Like my soul. But to each their own I guess.
Round tires are now offensive so yes the rounder the better!
"my truck doesn't have much power so I want to put on a taller tire", Me... scratching my head
Lol this whole video gave me a headache, i have a 89 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, came with a 145hp 280ft lbs torque 5.9 liter engine, yes 145hp thanks to 70s emissions bs.. But its got plenty of power for 31-33-35 inch tires, you just have to regear the diff's.
Yeah, that sounds like twisted logic. If it's only an inch taller I don't think it would make too much of a difference. 🤔
@@slomotrainwreck
I think it is the wider tire being the issue when relating to rolling resistance.
A narrow tire will be lighter at the OD meaning it has a lower polar moment of inertia, therefore it will take less HP to spin. The tires all have the same outer diameter (more or less) and the polar moment of inertia makes more of a difference on acceleration.
The 235 85 is usually used for duallys. That's why you didn't see much about it.
FTR..
235 75 is what my 95 econoline has.
I went with the 265/75 as well. I really like them and some tires look skinny off the rack and will fatten up once on the rim.
If you're staying clear of deep mud and soft sand, go for the skinnies, it's clear you understand the advantages. Though, mileage in my 95 sub isn't bad on the 265/70/16 I had on when staying down at the 55-60 mph range. It's still truck mileage, but comparable to the newer Chevy's.
kstricl. imgnation milage? 5.7. will not get more then 12-13mpg that is why those old 1995s have 42 gallon tanks
mind you my 6.0l. hybrid gets 24-25.5. on the highway. the highest ever was 26.7mpg hyw
My 94 tbi 4x4 can get 16 on the highway if you go 55 to 60.
In the snow belt we routinely go one size narrower and one size taller to get the same diameter, and better traction on snow.
Bfg KO2,s are snow rated. The all eat snow.
I think i should do that for my forester.
@@juliosdiy3206 did my research, and I am completely happy with Gerneral Altimax Rt43 on my AWD RAV4.. I was considering going with two separate sets of tires, all season and then a set of winter tires. Went with the Generals and couldn't be happier with all around performance in all conditions. I read, at that time I bought mine, make sure they are the Altimax RT43, not the regular Altimax. I even go on some trails for camping, not serious off road trails, but they sometimes get muddy. I haven't had a problem yet after a few years with them. I have used BFG AT's , and also some Firestone tires on previous 4 wheel drive vehicles that sadly disappointed during winter months.
"I want something that looks factory". So put on the factory size.
Same,i would like to later put on 285/65R17 on my 4 gen Toyota 4runner but still keep the factory look
Factory size doesn't tend to look factory once you've lifted it some.
@@hannahranga don't think of lifting my 4runner but keeping it stock.
Factory is 245 75 16. You only get less gas mileage, you have less pep as well.
Wrong
How is everyone here not dying at your "who couldnt use an extra inch" line. You had me dying at your delivery. Love the K02's on my LX470.
My dads 99 suburban is on 265 75, and it seems perfectly fine doing the off roading he does with it
I only buy my tires from tire4coin
😂 good for you! You want a cookie 🍪 you late to the game foo
This is literally exactly the video I needed thank you. Looking for my 97 f250 powerstroke
Jimmy, I like your videos up until recently when you've started making them very click-bate like. I understand that it's a trend, but your videos were fine without following this trend. Lately I've stopped watching because of the click-bate nature of your videos.
I'm quitting watching them because he DM'd me asking for DI*K PICS
I buy only from tire4coin
I don't
Omg - repeat city, could have been a one minute video
Precisely what I thought.........makes one loose interest in the video........... I kept skipping 10 secs till the end.........to find nothing of significance.
Exactly! This guy sucks! I sped up the video instead!! It's all blah blah blah! I want my 5 mins back!
I always go 1-2 sizes wider for trucks and SUVs. They're already top heavy so stock and skinnier tires can cause problems in emergency maneuvers leading to a roll over.
My 06 Silverado came with 245/70-17, but it has 18" rims (09 rims). Previously had 265/65-18 but that meant the speedo was off due to being taller. So with new tires I went with 265/60-18 which is same height as stock but a full 1" wider and I love how it runs and drives now. Better grip, less roll under on corners, and slightly better mileage (average 17mpg city with 5.3L and NV3500).
Don't mistake me, I'm not calling you a liar or anything but, it doesn't make sense that a wider tire could improve mileage. Wider tire = more tread on the road = more friction = lower mpg. I don't know, perhaps you are getting slightly better mpg but, it doesn't make any sense to me.
I think fatter is safer. Intuitively
The reason you're getting 'better' mileage is because your new tires are slightly smaller diameter than your last tires, with 159 mm sidewalls as compared to 172.25 mm sidewall. Your speedo is still calibrated at XXX revolutions per mile, but each revolution is smaller. Basically, unless you recalibrated your speedo, the odometer is also off, showing more miles than you have actually traveled.
Tire width has zero effect on vehicle stability. CG height, sidewall height, sidewall stiffness, and track width make the difference. All the tires he looked at were the same diameter, so the sidewall height was the same. Sidewall stiffness may have been different, but that's unlikely since they were the same model of tire. He's keeping the stock rims, so the track width isn't changing. Both options were taller than the factory tires, so he is raising the CG slightly. Either way he goes he will have the same stability, just slightly less than stock.
Maybe he meant better mpg than with the taller tire?
You also need to consider your contact patch with the road. How big is the contract patch? The more contact with the road, the better the traction with it.
I prefer the narrower tire my self. I will be putting that on my 1999 Silverado 2500 pickup. Thanks for the video!
Back in the 1970's we were loggers in western Montana. We always used tall skinny tires on our work pickups and would we would go circles around pickups with wide fat tires, especially in snow and ice..
Then why spend half the video of talking about the 235
Heavy_Haul_N_Fool he’s waiting for BFGoodrich to offer him a pair for free so that they can get advertising that he can review
tires are best on tire4coin
I check your videos before (sometimes after) doing anything on my suburban to check if I’m making or made the right decisions. Thank you for your channel and advice 🔥
Most definitely go with the thinner tire if you want to cut through the mud and snow a lot easier then the wider tire.
This is only true if there's something to bite down there. And with the 8 in of ground clearance he has this would never become a factor. Skinny tires are never the option. I work in construction and I can tell you lgp tires are the way to go. There is never a scenario where less contact patch gives you more traction.
With a more narrow tire you get less traction and less stability, and your vehicle can easily flip over in an emergency manuver, such as avoiding a pot hole or animal in the roadway..Also, it will wear out faster because the weight of the vehicle is concentrated in a smaller area vs a wider tire that's able to distribute the weight of the vehicle more evenly 🤠
From experience please don't go with the narrower tires. My 2001 GMC had narrow tires and every time I go to do something like get a stack of wood or pull off the road I would sink and have to get help to pull the beast out. With the factory tires my truck would go all the way to the axles. Now I have gone with wider tires no more sinking and a lot better ride.
Yep. For the regular user (multi use vehicle) a decent width is the best all around option.
Be happy that he didn't go on to talk about the air that goes in the tires.
I just bought falken tires 285-75-16 which is almost a 33 and almost a 10 inch tire. I am going to "add a leaf" spring to the rear and do a 4 inch lift to my 96 burb. Tires are awesome and can't wait for the lift.
"Who couldn't use an extra inch" lol :D
That's what she ssid
Haha yaahh
Wrench Groove if ya are lacking in height why not make up in girth right!!!!
@@sschevmale24 hahahaha! U beat me to it! now that's a that's what she said joke , unfortunately though lol
At my age it don't matter anyhow, ah, what was I talking about? I'll have another cup of coffee, was it important? Oh never mind. Ya know there was a time, time, bed time I think. nite
Did basically the same thing to my 04 Exploder. Whatever the stick width was I found a tire that was the same but went from a 65 aspect to an 85. Looked night and day better. May have also contributed to the trans exploding, who knows.
Exploder. 🙂
My F250 came with th 265 and I went with the 235s as I got a set (both BFG) for a good deal but I changed back after a few months as the 235s had a harsher ride and didn't feel as stable!
Just glad to see you doing a real world build instead of starting with a $70k bare SUV.
The softer compound works better on ice and snow aswell as slick rocks.
Go with the 265s, I run 305s I like the wide look but that's just my preference.
I have the 265s on my 97 Tahoe with no lift. No rubbing, great all around traction. And, being a little firmer ride is a plus on the road for these trucks. I tow a 8500lbs boat often.
Get to the point.
There’s a point?
I have had the 265 75 16 for over a year they have been a great Tire look great and Performing good
265/75R16 is the factory size for the Z71 package. I have a set of them on my 98, usually get 60-80K out of a set driving mostly highway. On my 4th set, love them.
You're talking BFGs?
@@1RoadGarage Yes, I have those exact tires. The KO2s, I had 2 sets of the original all terrains and I'm at the end of my second set of the KO2's.
My 95 k1500 is not a z71 and it came stock with 265/75R16. With a 2in lift 285/75r16 are perfect. Almost no difference in mpg. 235's are a waste of money. I stopped running big years ago they suck in the rain. Nitto's or toyo's are way better in all conditions.
It depends on where you drive and how old you are. After all if you live somewhere the weather is mostly mild than smaller and harder is a better deal. If your fifty or older your going to find climbing to get in the truck a burden. The thing is take all things in consideration not just what looks good bang for the buck is often misinterpreted.
Skinnier tires more pounds per square inch on the ground.
Skinnier tires actually work well in winter..
That depends on what's on the road. When roads arnt plowed I've found a little fatter tire bits a little better. Even though you float on top of it better. But yes in most cases the skinnier tire is better. But I'd say just go with a 10.5 wide snow tire (assuming it's a suv or truck) and you cant complain with that
@@MrMuffanga donut spares all the way around!!
Kidding 😂
Same reason tractor’s use skinny tires they have more traction they dig in the dirt better.
@@THETRUEKING12 more pounds per square inch.. Why is the chevron pattern on the tire reversed?
@@THETRUEKING12 That Suburban isn't a tractor. It is used for a whole bunch of thing that tractor would never do.
Ultimately, you gotta do you. But I was always real happy with the 235/85's with a load range E. They wear like iron and handle great on and off road
If you want taller and narrow, I believe BFG still makes a 255/85R16. Taller than both of those and still narrower than the 265. Of your 2 choices, I would go with the 265.
The 85 series tire is what I buy, 215-235-255 they all work awesome and 99% of the time you can only buy them in ten ply, I go have all three of them on vehicles that I own, I also run 285/75r16 when looking for a larger size
I have to run 255/80/17 I wish I could still run 16s but upgrade brakes 🤷🏻
"Don't buy tires without doing this first."
Literally did nothing...
I thought for sure his boyfriend was gonna come out and they were going to start a sissy, slapping, match
Go with 265 in the long run they'll give you better overall performance and stability.
@Robert Manning
Another thing this guy needs to be aware of, don’t worry about a rougher ride!!!
If you don’t put a 10ply tire on that Suburban, you won’t get a normal years worth of driving out of those tires!!!
I mistakenly had a set of B F GOODRICH Long Trail 4ply Tires in the 265/75/16 tire size put on my truck(they had a 50,000 mile warranty on them as well) and they were just shy of bald when I had to replace them in LESS THAN A YEAR!!!!
I would not have thrown my money away like that if I had know that they were only a 4ply tire!!!!
On a vehicle like his Suburban or my F-150, tire size is not the only consideration!!!
These vehicles weigh more than normal passenger cars, so having a tire with a *’P’* rating put on a vehicle that weighs over 5,000lbs curb weight is the wrong type of tire for that vehicle!!!!
Don’t buy a tire solely on its tread life warranty!!!!
But tires that are rated for the vehicle weight that you are putting those tires on!!!
Where I live, the roads are filled with potholes, up and down grades with curves thrown in there and the normal everyday passenger car tire will not hold up to that kind of punishment on a truck!!!
With the EXCEPTION of the 4ply tires that I bought not realizing that they were only 4ply; I have never had any tires with less that 8ply on this truck and I never should have focused on the per tire price and warranty for that set of tires!!!
What I will focus on now and will as long as I continue to own this truck or any like it in the future, is the number of plys of steel belts and rubber between my truck and the road!!!
The B F Goodrich tires I have on my truck now are 10ply KO2’s!!! They are noisy, but I’ve already had them on my truck for the better part of 2 years and other than some minor cupping, they appear to have nearly the same tread depth they had when I purchased them!!!
Should last longer too if you keep proper inflation and alignment
Yes. I run a set of K02’s on my 150 10ply with an E load rating. They have been great tires I have put over 80000km on them in 3.5 years with a mix of regular driving and towing a travel trailer. I am at the point where I need to think about replacing them and I will buy the K02 again.
I run the mastercraft 10 ply courser cxts 1 level below the mud terrain and yes thats also because I already own the 10 ply mud terrains mtxs, and have a Goodyear 8 ply Goodyear all terrain authority radials for during the summer, 265 75 r 16 10 ply is always the way to go
I have replaced the tires on my f150. I am not going to ever do any heavy hauling with it, it is more just a fun truck, farm truck, go to town truck. I decided to go with P instead of LT tires. Same size but didn't need the stronger sidewalls. I also noted that the tires are rounder at the edge of the tread. Where as LT are more square. They were also less expensive to buy until I decided what wheel and size of wheel I want to run...
Do the 265/75/16 it will help in turning and body roll.
Not quite the same but have been running 285/75R16 mud tires on a 1997 5.4 Expedition, no lift. 3.73 final drive and drives better than with the stock 245 or 265 tires.
I read a report years ago that the tall narrow tires work better in snow and mud! The wider tires tend to float instead of tracking as well. Look at what the military uses they've gone fron tall narrow to wide but wide with cleats/blocks so they work better and dig.
The 235s wouldn’t do very good in sand or mud. If you’re set on true pizza cutters look into the 255/85/16 rubber comes out to 33/10/16. Keeps you a little taller and you’re in the middle.
Air down and you’ll have plenty of width for traction.
What he said!
I'd always go with the bigger wider tire because you have more surface area, plus thinner tires are going to show it in the curves driving on the road. I'll always go bigger, but never smaller
You don't spend alot of time at home do ya?
There are some pluses for the 235's. #1 they are easier on the wheel bearings, #2 they will last a bit longer and they will do better in the snow. Most of the comments here refer to the looks which is ok but I also like a tires performance.
Absolutely skinnier tire with an aggressive tread does better in snow, more weight on a smaller contact patch. Cheaper price.
Absolutely. Pizza cutters rule when performance trumps fashion...........unless you also like the skinny look like I do. Win-win.
Will 235’s load range E flex pretty good deflated or ride stiff since it’s an E tire, light vehicle like a Ranger
My experience has been the complete opposite of that. Fatter tires have done much better for me in snow, sand, mud conditions hmmmmm
All that and he went with the wider tires 😂🤦♂️
@@Fordgroup00 Science says narrow tires do better in the snow in most conditions. Google is your friend.
This is my brain at 1am every night debating tire sizes.
Almost 9 minutes a repeating everything again again again :(((
I stopped listening after 45 sec. 😆
Probably a little late to give you my input, but kenda klever at2’s are a 60,000 mile tire, dig great and come in almost any size you can think of
WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST? Watched the whole thing and you never say anything about the subject..Waste of 8 minutes
You forgot the other 50 seconds of wasted time.
TLDW: Depends on what your gonna use it for. Daily driver? Go wide/stock Off Road Toy? Skinny is fine. My lifted (3” body) 95 burb ran 285/75r16, she ran great and was a beast on the back road when I needed her to be. Your welcome
I am with you . I have a 2015 f250 6.2 . Looking for a thinner tire . Currently 265/70 r17
285/75r16👌
Same. My beast PERFORMED so much better. Those little tires aren’t gonna last very long with that weight he’s got. She needs some meat on them bones; The more the cushion the more pushin’ lol
Haha yessir
I ran this size on my 01 Tahoe. As heavy as it is ,I was happy with the traction off road. A skinny tire digs to much with all that wait in the winter on my soft ground. Gass mileage sucked but didn't get stuck as much
265 gives you better stability. Plus, more contact is always a good thing.
Harder compound will last longer but not "flex" as well in colder temps. I change tires. In my 20-plus years almost everyone with that model Suburban goes with the 265. they seem to like that 1
I have 285/70r17 KO2 on my 2003 ram 1500 4x4 and have about 70,000 miles on them and still going strong
I love BF Goodrich but bought Hankook Dyna Pro AT's. They were rated better and look just as good with a quiet tread.
Wait til you get 10,000 miles and see.
Do you have an update on these tires? I'm considering them myself for my F150.
@@07Convertable I only kept the vehicle another year after buying the tires but will say they held up very well during that year with little wear.
265 /75. Is my choice I have 265/75. 18’s on my 2010 Silverado and I really like them handling is good and durability
Keep in mind when you go to a different size tire and stiffer sidewall load that the factory recommended tire pressure may go out the door, you may need to adjust your tire pressure without going over the tires max pressure, I use the chalk method and an open parking lot, of course this will change when carrying a load or towing, just a thought
What's the chalk method?
@@a-dog8075 find a flat open area like a parking lot or your street, take a piece of chalk and shade a line in one or two spots completely across the tire tread from side to side, drive forward and back as straight as possible without turning, look at your chalk lines, if the center of your chalk lines are worn down or gone and the sides are not then the tire may be over inflated for the weight of the vehicle, what I look for is the even wear across the chalk line, I noticed on my truck that I could see light under the edges of my back tires while setting in the driveway, my truck is empty most of the time, I adjusted the tire pressure using this method to get even tire wear, keep in mind that to little air pressure can overheat a tire too, I hope this helps you
I ran 235/85R16 on my '99 Ford Explorer - great look... I recommend LT instead of P rated tires
265/75/16 would look good on it 👍🏻.
I have a 97 F250 HD and my truck came from the factory with that tire on it dad always told me that when he was in the military they had skinny tires on their vehicles so they would go through the mud so I replaced the tires with the same thing I've had the same drama you had I was thinking I might go to a bigger tire but the 85 is 10 ply so it has a very strong sidewall also but it rides rough ER to its more heavy-duty and it can withstand a large amount of weight if you put weight on them I like them they look cool they're skinny but they're also cheaper
"TRIPLE SNOWFLAKE"
See if they are available in load range c (6 ply rated) or d (8ply rated).
Load range e (10ply rated) are way too heavy for a 1/2 to rated suburban.
The c rated is plenty unless you plan to tow or haul large loads.
If you can only get the e load range tire, you don't want to run anywhere near max tire pressure on the sidewall, which is usually 80 psi. 40 psi would be fine.
Over inflation will make for a rough ride and wear the center of the tire.
The BFG tire is a good choice.
I think the 265s would be a good size with the lift kit and should not effect mileage and power much.
Good luck.
Heck yeah, have a navara d22 with 285/75/16 talk about wind out of its sail up hill due to ratio effects the narrower tyre for me. Less rolling weight makes for slightly better acceleration and braking
How wide is your stock rim? How wide of a rim does the tire manufacturer suggest for the 265s? Will the 265s rub suspension parts when turning sharply?
I believe the stock rim on these trucks are 6.5 in I believe for 265 75 16 you need a minimum of a 7 inch rim I used to work in a tire shop years ago and used to see Rim flange failure because of people putting too wide of a tire on too narrow of a rim
Depends on the gears of course, and the use of vehicle. Taller and thinner is always better. Better psi on ground, and better ground clearance. A couple sizes up from OEM size usually best. Do the math to figure out power band of engine/drivetrain. Who cares what it LOOKS like. What actually works is what is important. BTW, the Wildpeaks are excellent off road and snow but not so good on road handling (Sqwalll Like crazy in cornering) BFG KO2s are excellent both (but lots more money)
Man your head is moving a lot. My eyes are wiggling now!
Check out Scotty Kilmer.
Did you find out that a taller tire will throw off your speedometer anywhere between 5-10 miles an hour. So if you are going 55 on your speedometer you might only be going 50. So you have to get into your computer and program your tire size that you are running. And on older vehicles you have to change the gear on transmission at the place your speedometer cable goes into transmission.
I cant even imagine what would possess you to even think of putting that size on.
Looks good.
I do like the 235 and that military look. I am contemplating that for my ram also. It is supposed to get the tread down into the snow better instead of floating on top.
Exactly what I was thinking but I do admit now that I have the 265/75 I’m loving them. Not too wide but definitely wide enough for the ‘stock’ look I wanted. Now, I don’t think I would like the extra skinny 235s..
I have the same size on my suburban but it's a 2500 so I gotta run lt tires. But my 99 yukon Denali factory size is 265 70 16. So I kinda like the lt feel. I found some hankook dynapro atms (rf10?) But there're 8 ply so it wont chatter my teeth lol but I like the handling of a lt tire. The suspension is not ment to support a lt tire anyways but an 8 ply is enough for some cushion but the handling and sidewall is perfect. Plus it has the tow package so a little extra is better. There warranty I think is 50,000 miles for lt also.
You got the lift... go with a bigger rim and tire. I have a 96 Yukon and put 37.5 X 12 tires on a set of 17" X 12 rims. She will crawl out of any mud hole ditch whatever. Those tiers your buying are not going to help a lot when you hit a mud hole or deep trench. Bigger wider make it through every time. I have a 3" body lift and a 6" Rough Country suspension lift. I am also swapping out the front and rear dif from a heavy half Silverado I wrecked last year, 6 springs in the rear, and a 14 bolt rear dif.
Went from 265/75/16 KO2 to 235/85/16 KO2 both 32” on my Tacoma TRD Offroad and what a difference. Better performance all around except in deep loose sand. Even 2mpg better in fuel consumption. No going back to wide tires. Some tell me they don’t like the look, I just say I don’t hang out at the mall. I want performance. Though for your bigger/heavier rig I might go with the 265.
My 92 dodge cummins weighs more than 6000 pounds and a 235/85 works just fine. Forget about all the loosers running tires a foot wide. Fads change.
I had those same tires and they clogged up real bad they wouldn't clean out but as far as road driving everyday you can get a lot of miles out them
You ever wonder back in the day when you bounced & spun & clawed your way up to a high mountain lake & just before you got to the top you thought man nobody could make it up here , then you top the mountain and there sits a VW bug .....What the .......!!!!!! We'll it had a lot to do with those skinny tires . More lbs per square, inch more traction , width & height ain't everything !!!! :-) just sayin !
Dedicated snow tires are usually a softer compound so the don't get high mileage compared to a standard tire. Guessing that's where the DT is different and better mileage
Either one of those tires is going to be noisier than what you are running. Also, (for everyone) always check the mfg dates on the tires before you allow them to be installed. Make sure they or within a year of mfg.
The standard is within 5 years really.
@@densilcardna Oh he// no. 1 year. Only a fool would buy a 5 year old tire knowingly.
@@x-man5056 "Within". At least that's what the manual of every car I've owned said.
@@densilcardna Maybe we are talking 2 different things. NEVER buy a new tire that is more than a year past it's mfg date.
I never saw that mentioned in any owners manual but not something I'd look for.
I had tread separation on a set of Uniroyal's once. Because they were less than 5 years past mfg date, they replaced them for free. They were about half wore out. 3 years old.
Buy & use the wider tyre It will give better grip on soft & wet ground especially if it rains heavy. or even if you suffer with ice & snow in winter & make sure you have snow tracks to fit these extra wide tyres as standard ones won't fit (too small) unless they are ajustable. The wider ones will add a bit more fuel usage bur, not much more ( about 2 gallon per full tank) MAXIMUM!!! possibly less
You owe me 8:50 of my life back. Wtf
Honestly 33x10.50 is the tire u want sounds like but it only comes in a 15in rim. Ide go with the smaller tire, with the stock gears and old parts it will do best on the road with the smaller tires once u get it built up then put the bigger tires like 315 75 16. That's what I want to put on my 99 f250 next time. I have the 235 85s on it now
He reminds me of scotty kilmer....instead of a good informative channel they both use the fear mongering negative titles....."never do this" "why you shouldn't do this" hell one video about changing the rear differential fluid the he had the red circle with "don't" next to it but it had nothing to do with the vid.
I've been running Goodrich TAs for years. They are good tires but I am growing tired of the sound, they're loud. I'm driving a F350 4wd. Thinking next tire will be the Cooper AT3 XLT. Truck is too heavy for a "mud truck" , just use it for a truck as it still needs to get off road. It came with 10 ply 265-75-16 but have been running 285-75-16 and it corrected the speedometer reading (per GPS speed). Don't know if anyone cares but I did want to share that they are noisy.
The wider the tire the more strain on the steering joints.
John Gibson tell that to these kids that are running 14” wide wheels with crazy negative offset
@John Gibson
That is a consideration, but that is not a big issue if the vehicle was originally equipped with a comparable tire size!
I have a 2003 Ford F-150 and the 265/70-75/16 is the tire size that I have had on my truck since I purchased it in 2008!!!
With that said, GM is notorious for having the truck frame cracking where the steering gear box mounts to the frame!!
That year model and several year models prior to his were notoriously problematic in this issue!!!
The fix is to buy a piece of aftermarket steel plate with the mounting holes already made into it that bolts on to the back side of the GM frame which stiffens up the frame in that spot to reduce the amount of frame flex that leads to the cracking at the steering gearbox mounting point!!!
My brother has owned at least three if not four or five GM trucks that have had cracks started in the frame from gearbox flex!!!
He has either disregarded it entirely or bought steel to fix it with(not necessarily the aftermarket steel plate made for that fix!!!
Not gonna hurt that suburban. My 97 sierra was stock with 265/75/16...19 yrs and 198,000 miles..original ball joints..did other front end work.but they were still good..
@@joshuawelborn3763 They don't mind replacing their tie-rod ends and steering gearbox every 50k miles, cause they are breaking stuff anyway.
265/75/16 All terrain, always looks Great !!! My opinion.., dont like to see thin tyres...., love too see robust 4x4 tyres!!!
Id do the 265 because there wider with more traction/grip on and off road. Ready to see the finished project with the new tires!!!
It depends on what u r doing if your mostly doing hill climbing there fine if your going to be in the mud u want wider
Was rooting for 235. Skinny all the way.