Sorry due to a rebranding this saw is no longer available. The rebrand is due to the major website hosting sites and payment process not liking our name. They think we are selling "weapons"🙄 I will be working on a new site for my other sharpening stuff but this saw will probably not return. To be honest its just too expensive to make. REAL carbon fiber (not fake Chinese stuff from Amazon) is expensive. So are the custom machined pieces that hold the blade. I constantly get people saying they can make them cheaper but then get sent pictures of their version and it involves duct tape and pvc. To make something that actually works and lasts is a different story. I am just not capable of scaling production to make them cheaper in order to meet demand. I may do a small run here or there for fun though.😊 Thanks for everyone who bought a one really appreciate it! QUICK DISCLAIMER ⬇️ Heres a video showing its true capabilities ruclips.net/video/UgRZ7m5yFLw/видео.html This saw was designed for myself because I wanted a saw that actually worked, that was sub 4oz, that was capable of breaking down with no tools, or small parts to loose, and had readily available replacement blades off the shelf. Turns out some other people wanted them too. So we started selling them. It fits a very specific purpose. And for that purpose works very well, and will out cut much bigger saws. Anything can be done when you start adding weight (folding mechanisms, etc). But keeping it under 4oz while still providing all the other features is the tricky part. Especially since the blade accounts for half the weight! Combine this with the correct mora and you have a sub 8oz knife / saw combo😁 It is an ultra light piece of gear that does require some "skill" to use. Not unlike an ultralight dyneema tent, tarp, or an alcohol stove. I think if you have to ask "why?" then it may not be for you, and thats ok 👍 If you are a gram / oz counter then your in the right place 😉 The actual saw handle portion (the expensive part, not the blade) is covered by a lifetime warranty as long as we are in business. I am still using my original prototype with original blade that has cut CORDS of wood at this point! Thanks for taking the time to watch my video! It's always appreciated 🙏
I got 12" Diablo blades for cordless sawzall. I think it may run too fast for òptimal efficiency. I need to see if theres a speed adjustment. Great idea here and Milwaukee makes a folding blade holder;
Why not make handle a slightly larger diameter, so the saw blade would fit inside the handle and the end where it actually goes to attach to the saw just has a slight taper... It could be made into the fitting itself and not the carbon fiber.. that way it's a self-contained unit.
If you claim this is the best and you believe in it, you should have no issue taking a risk to help people be equipped best and make some money on the way. JOE X is the one and only authentic blade tester on youtube, send him a saw and let him show us the comparison betweer your saw and silkys foldable saws
If you made the handle bigger and oval-shaped, it can act as a blade holder in your backpack. That way it isn't getting bent or stabbing your kidneys as you hike.
@@whengrapespop5728 making it bigger would add oz to the overall weight making it " the most average weight backpacking saw" and putting a slit in the handle would ruin the whole structure of the saw making it weaker .
@@davidjd123 if the blade can't be sheathed inside the handle then there's no point in making that handle as big as it is in the first place. Then could very well have cut the length in half, and therefore the weight of the handle in half, and it still would have functioned the exact same way as it does now. Makes no sense really.
We tried HUNDREDS of other methods, including having custom pieces laser cut. However it would add more cost to something that is already expensive to make. And there's no real benefit. The entire tensioning contraption weights 2 grams🙂
I agree, I made a super simple light hanger that works on just about anything vertical. Everyone at work laughed until they saw my 2 second setup and install and then I helped them scoop their jaws up off the floor after they dropped from the super simple install.
You can with any pipe and sawzaw blade and good string. Depending what you use it wouldnt be quote as good and long lasting as this guys, but it will work. Pvc pipe, twine and this sawblade could work. But Would it last a week or more? Probably not
Just put some rubber heat shrink around the last couple inches of your tensioning line and it'll basically last forever and adds like 2 grams of weight... Awesome little saw handle
Here’s the million dollar idea...how about your next mod to this saw...increase the diameter of the handle to accept the blade to nest inside from the aluminum end with the blade guard installed...boom a million dollars😁 you can PayPal me the commission checks
I actually tried that! However the blades are soo aggressive they will scratch through the carbon fiber very quickly from taking them in and out. The other problem was the weight would increase by over an ounce from the extra material needed for the blade insert. We are still working on a version with some of these features but it will definitely be heavier. 🙂
What...a whole ounce!! Well that’s just unacceptable...said the dickhead 😂I would eat the weight with no problem, also add a plastic blade guard and solve the blade cutting the handle issue..boom perfection. Nothing beats being able to process fire wood quickly after a long walk.
This is the lightest saw possible. Thats the point. No extra features that are not needed. For a saw that actually works, is collapsible, uses no tools or small parts to put together, has off the shelf replaceable cheap blades, that is under 4oz, and will out cut much bigger saws, is about as good as it gets if your a weight weeny. Not everyone is though and that's fine 👍 Again we have designs for other versions but they are not available yet.
That's an excellent idea. Rip saw blades are available everywhere and in wide varieties. You might look for a design where the blade folds into the handle.
Great idea. Its really handy for a small job if you don't want get the cord out. The cutting is done on the pull so it dosnt blow your arm out. Yours looks cooler so you got that going for you.
if it makes you feel better, its not exactly a new idea. He is making a pretty nice high quality version ...but handles that uses standard recip saw blades have been around for a while in the hardware stores.
I smoked for 35 years. I don't have the lung power for that. I'm going with the worlds lightest most powerful battery operated solar charged chain saw.
First impressions = Carbide teeth are a Huge benefit and the saw appears to cut super well . The tensioner device is interesting and the cordage could be replaced with wire . The handle is perfectly round , small diameter , with no blade to handle orientation . Friction tape could be used to increase the handle diameter and make it more comfortable for long term use . I like the performance of this saw very much and there is no doubt a polymer handle could be injection molded for it . I need to order one of these and see how it goes . Thanks for a very unique design with appears to have structural integrity . All the best from a mechanical engineer .
The cordage works well. Its dyneema and has a 650lb break strength. Ive never broken one. Wire doesn't work well due to it having memory. You cant use different size sticks and once tensioned its very hard to un tension. In the beginning we offered a friction tape wrap for more grip but found most people didnt want it due to adding weight. The handle has a surprising amount of grip due to the way the carbon is wrapped, almost like snake scales. Plus the tensioning stick adds a t handle. Just some insight 🙂
All you need is a small diameter piece of tube to carry it all! Or a wider handle with a split bushing to lock the saw blade in the ending, and a cap for the other end! Great idea!
Got my 12" saw today. Put it through some work. I made a stick out of olive wood and decided to add a ferro rod to one end since the saw blade can strike it.
The first thing I thought of seeing this was using one of my little ferro rod toggles as a tensioner. I keep one on my pack anyway so I'm already carrying the weight. If I wasn't, they are only an additional 7 grams provided the one I have fits. What is the ID and OD of the tubing/ferrule?
The handle being round, how hard is it to keep from rolling side to side? I was thinking a oval shape might provide better control and less hand fatigue.
Not really due to the tensioning stick. And once it's started the cut keeps it in line. Its made for two handed use. It lacks the mass needed @3.8oz to be great for single handed use. As one hand is needed to put pressure into the cut. Just one of the quarks of a 3.8oz saw🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 These people won't be happy until you make it ribbed for her pleasure. No need to improve it, the design is simple, light weight and not easily made because of the carbon fiber. Yes its expensive, but its a niche product for ultralight weight backpackers. Consider making a lower tier model that weighs more and is less expensive out of aluminum, then it will be more accessible to campers and casual hikers. Well done with this saw, can't wait to see what you make next. Subscribed and 👍.
I use one of the Milwaukee handles at my job. I’ve used a lot of different tree pruning blades before I tried one of the Diablo blades what this guy is using. I use mine to cut tree roots in the ground and I do not have any problem with it plugging up from sap or dirt and it cuts very fast
Mine just got here today crazy cutting power insanely light and just looks B. A. had bahco Laplander I can't even compare will use all summer and give an update.
Why is everything a “survival something?” What crap. Yes it’s a good saw, but tag “survival” or the word “seal” before it and people go nuts of these products.
Handles that take recip saw blades actually have been around for a while in the hardware department. Although, his is a nice design with quality materials and a long handle
This thing is an awesome idea, i have had a similar idea with the sheet rock saws were you can remove the blade. I have just ordered mine and i will review it for sure on my channel. Keep up the good work man.
Definitely a saw to have. Will be picking one up in the next couple of months! Would love to see some of those knives you make for sale, in your store!
At the time the video was filmed we didnt have an msrp yet. Current prices can be found on our site www.knifepointgear.com Another reason prices are sometimes not included is because once online these videos can not be edited. Prices can change due to component prices and whatnot. Just for future reference
Hey Alex. Just found this by accident. I am a long time sub on your other channel. Didn't know about this. Looks like a fantastic product. All the best.
The ONLY way I'd buy a wood cutting saw with a blade that short for the bush, would be if it were a folding saw like my 10" Corona Folding Saw! Thanx for the video my Bladed Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
As a construction worker and an outdoorsman... not only do I support this idea, I also can verify, those Diablo blades are wicked and do last a long time. I have wondered why those wood saws didn’t incorporate these types of blades. Great idea man. My suggestion fr covering the blade when carrying would be to carry a small piece of pipe with a cap on both ends that holds the blade and handle, maybe 1.5” pvc? Nice job man.
Great video explaining and demonstrating your product. I get a kick out of what the “haters” have to say in the comments. I can imagine what they would say to the folks who brought us, “The Pet Rock,” The Couch Potato Doll,” or for that matter, bottle water. Yup, they didn’t listen to the naysayers and I hope you don’t either. Bottom line, if people like your product and feel the price is worth it, they’ll buy it. Wishing you much success!
Thanks for the kind words! I originally never intended to sell it. I just wanted the lightest option for my needs. Then a friend wanted one and so on. If just fits a very specific purpose🙂
Super easy. I made one from an old 5 iron shaft and some bank line. Works great and very light. Made a sheath for it from some scrap leather and a plastic milk jug to line the inside. Went through a 4" piece of hard wood just fine. Can't wait to take it out in the woods. I'm going to make a pouch so I can take it down and carry it in my pack. Saved myself $55 - $60!
Cool idea, not gonna buy one today but definitely put it in my- buy in the future wish list. And never heard of that string either so gonna Google that to
Holy shiit I really wanted one such a simple design but really 70 bucks, 80 after shipping, for a plastic tube? And you have to supply a stick for the tension rod not even an included small silver rod that could be stored inside the plastic tube. Are they charging me an additional 30 bucks for a saws all blade that I have 50 of? Cmon now. All it takes is a small plastic tube, a small rod, and a string for 9.99 and you could’ve had a nice deal with Home Depot.. actually wait I have some calls to make ggs
2:16 ``I decided to do another cut`` But I either did not film it, did not use the footage or lied about that, because I just replayed the same clip twice. 1:57 first cut 2:23 second cut Nice design, I'm just very picky on stuff like that. (yeah, I do get called an asshole a lot)
Damn. Your right. Look at the piece of wood from the first cut when the piece falls off. When the second cut starts, it is the same footage. Wow. Good eye. LOL
Should learn to pay better attention 🤣 Look at the end of each cut when i hold up the saw. Its a different cut bro. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Fyi during filming there were almost 100 cuts made between both saws. Each cut is only 1/4" wide so they WILL look the same. As they say the devil is in the details.
@@knifepointgear5851 Maybe you don't understand what I am saying. You did reuse the same footage twice, maybe by accident. Top cut at 1:57 and 2:23 is exactly the same. Your point still remains, you can make 2 cuts while the fiskars only makes 1.
I did...the aluminum will gull from the washer. The piece could be made from stainless just like the blade end but it would add about an once. I wanted to keep it under 4oz. In a pinch you can use a tent peg too. The wood works best though🙂
I'm really confused here...the blade itself is an off the shelf sawzal blade..the handle is a great idea...but seems relatively easy to make with just PVC and some basic hand tools. Great idea...but far too easy for me to replicate for under the $10 mark with just basic tools.
@@knifepointgear5851 my bad, yes the blade itself would add quite a bit, what I mean is that the handle... although light...still does not provide a mechanical advantage over a curved one. One of the major issues I have with folding saws is the all suck one handed...this has a similar issue. Maybe you can curve the handle? Making it even easier to use.
Sawzall blades cut on the pull stroke... Wouldn't it be much easier if they cut on the push or both... I think the weight for a real wood saw might make up for it in ease of use.
The pruning recip blade he shows at 08:09 cuts on the push and the pull, I used a blade like that to make my own folding saw and I like it a lot. Being a Brit I'm used to push cut saws and never got my head around pull only. Something I do like about recip/sawzall blades is that they are thicker and stiffer than commercial pruning saw blades, less prone to bending or tip snapping off (*cough* Silky), they also tend to have more of a set to the teeth making for a wider kerf and less binding.
This is true. These blades have a wider kerf so there is less binding than you would expect. And why a relatively thin blade like this works well in this application. one of my biggest complaints with others saws is the kerf isnt wide enough due to the tooth profile.
It just have to ask you say you've cut cords of wood with that one blade is that with a sawzall cordless or recorded cells you're surely not telling us that you cut cords of wood with that little tiny handle n that blade by hand are you??h
Yes, i cut it all by hand. I have some of the testing on some other videos as well as Instagram. It's literally seen thousands and thousands of cuts over the last year and a half.
Just off the start, I would use a Bic Lighter for the tensioning 'stick' and the handle looks a little narrow. Might be more difficult to hold if someone has big hands.
Carrying that blade is a bad idea. The simple fact it doesn't fold makes this not a backpacking or bushcraft saw to me. If you wanna call it a SHTF saw simply because it accepts any standard blade as you said then do that, but I wouldn't carry this over a folding saw. You're saving less than 3oz
Every oz counts. The blade does come apart in less than 5 seconds and re assembles in the same amount of time. This is for those in the know, who want every oz to count.
I am a HUGE fan of using reciprocating saw blades for backpacking and survival use. They are cheap, abundant and disposable (if you ever wear one out!) I prefer the Milwaukee 48-22-0305 Folding Jab Saw. I use an regular (non-carbide) pruning blade, and I used a Dremel tool to cut the blade short, so as to fold up. I love yours too!
Come on buddy take a look at the side to side comparisons again, just look how much harder you're trying with your saw. The screen is shaking, well the bottom is perfectly still LoL. Definitely a cool idea though.
It would be great if a company would put out the kit without the blade. i think it could be made quite cheap in stainless steel if mass produced. The blades are plentiful.
Okay, I get it ounces add up to pounds, but is he seriously suggesting somebody might be concerned with grams? Who would be outfitting something by the gram,, a chipmunk?
Silky blades are not any different in cutting capabilities. We did a video. Plus silkys dont compair to the weight. How about WE make one that weighs the same as the lightest silky and then it will be fair.
Sorry due to a rebranding this saw is no longer available. The rebrand is due to the major website hosting sites and payment process not liking our name. They think we are selling "weapons"🙄 I will be working on a new site for my other sharpening stuff but this saw will probably not return. To be honest its just too expensive to make. REAL carbon fiber (not fake Chinese stuff from Amazon) is expensive. So are the custom machined pieces that hold the blade. I constantly get people saying they can make them cheaper but then get sent pictures of their version and it involves duct tape and pvc. To make something that actually works and lasts is a different story.
I am just not capable of scaling production to make them cheaper in order to meet demand.
I may do a small run here or there for fun though.😊 Thanks for everyone who bought a one really appreciate it!
QUICK DISCLAIMER ⬇️
Heres a video showing its true capabilities ruclips.net/video/UgRZ7m5yFLw/видео.html
This saw was designed for myself because I wanted a saw that actually worked, that was sub 4oz, that was capable of breaking down with no tools, or small parts to loose, and had readily available replacement blades off the shelf. Turns out some other people wanted them too. So we started selling them. It fits a very specific purpose. And for that purpose works very well, and will out cut much bigger saws. Anything can be done when you start adding weight (folding mechanisms, etc). But keeping it under 4oz while still providing all the other features is the tricky part. Especially since the blade accounts for half the weight! Combine this with the correct mora and you have a sub 8oz knife / saw combo😁 It is an ultra light piece of gear that does require some "skill" to use. Not unlike an ultralight dyneema tent, tarp, or an alcohol stove. I think if you have to ask "why?" then it may not be for you, and thats ok 👍 If you are a gram / oz counter then your in the right place 😉 The actual saw handle portion (the expensive part, not the blade) is covered by a lifetime warranty as long as we are in business. I am still using my original prototype with original blade that has cut CORDS of wood at this point! Thanks for taking the time to watch my video! It's always appreciated 🙏
I got 12" Diablo blades for cordless sawzall. I think it may run too fast for òptimal efficiency. I need to see if theres a speed adjustment.
Great idea here and Milwaukee makes a folding blade holder;
Why not make handle a slightly larger diameter, so the saw blade would fit inside the handle and the end where it actually goes to attach to the saw just has a slight taper... It could be made into the fitting itself and not the carbon fiber.. that way it's a self-contained unit.
Love the video! I've got a Sawzall blade mod video you should check out
You "lose" "loose" parts. These two words are rarely used with grammatical accuracy.
If you claim this is the best and you believe in it, you should have no issue taking a risk to help people be equipped best and make some money on the way. JOE X is the one and only authentic blade tester on youtube, send him a saw and let him show us the comparison betweer your saw and silkys foldable saws
If you made the handle bigger and oval-shaped, it can act as a blade holder in your backpack. That way it isn't getting bent or stabbing your kidneys as you hike.
Or simply put a slit in the tube to fold in and cover most of the blade.
@@annoyedok321 Thats what I was thinking too. Just a slit, as long as the teeth are covered, then wrap the cord around it all.
@@whengrapespop5728 making it bigger would add oz to the overall weight making it " the most average weight backpacking saw" and putting a slit in the handle would ruin the whole structure of the saw making it weaker .
@@davidjd123 It wouldn’t make it bigger, just more compact. You might be right about the structure, though, unless the handle was made of steel.
@@davidjd123 if the blade can't be sheathed inside the handle then there's no point in making that handle as big as it is in the first place. Then could very well have cut the length in half, and therefore the weight of the handle in half, and it still would have functioned the exact same way as it does now. Makes no sense really.
That idea of using a tensioning cord to hold and tighten the blade in the handle is absolutely genius. It's such a simple and eloquent design.
We tried HUNDREDS of other methods, including having custom pieces laser cut. However it would add more cost to something that is already expensive to make. And there's no real benefit. The entire tensioning contraption weights 2 grams🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 it is a great design.
So simple I am just going to make one myself
Until it busts then it's junk lol
I agree, I made a super simple light hanger that works on just about anything vertical. Everyone at work laughed until they saw my 2 second setup and install and then I helped them scoop their jaws up off the floor after they dropped from the super simple install.
I was going to make my own, buy you deserve the credit for the idea, so I just placed an order. Can’t wait to use it in a few weeks!
Great job! I’m excited to pick one up. That’s definitely going in my pack on our next trip.
I'm usually the person who says, "I can make that," but this time I ordered one. Great idea and concept.
Thought the same. But this is a great idea why not pay it forward.
You can with any pipe and sawzaw blade and good string. Depending what you use it wouldnt be quote as good and long lasting as this guys, but it will work. Pvc pipe, twine and this sawblade could work. But Would it last a week or more? Probably not
@@skie6282 well why make it from pvc if you can get carbon fiber tube long enough for two of these for less than $10
@@jurcenko48 good point!
Same here, so where do I order?
Just put some rubber heat shrink around the last couple inches of your tensioning line and it'll basically last forever and adds like 2 grams of weight... Awesome little saw handle
Awesome idea!
Here’s the million dollar idea...how about your next mod to this saw...increase the diameter of the handle to accept the blade to nest inside from the aluminum end with the blade guard installed...boom a million dollars😁 you can PayPal me the commission checks
I actually tried that! However the blades are soo aggressive they will scratch through the carbon fiber very quickly from taking them in and out. The other problem was the weight would increase by over an ounce from the extra material needed for the blade insert. We are still working on a version with some of these features but it will definitely be heavier. 🙂
What...a whole ounce!! Well that’s just unacceptable...said the dickhead 😂I would eat the weight with no problem, also add a plastic blade guard and solve the blade cutting the handle issue..boom perfection. Nothing beats being able to process fire wood quickly after a long walk.
How about offering different diameter rubberized or foam type sleeves. This way customers can choose if they want to add an ounce or so.
This is the lightest saw possible. Thats the point. No extra features that are not needed. For a saw that actually works, is collapsible, uses no tools or small parts to put together, has off the shelf replaceable cheap blades, that is under 4oz, and will out cut much bigger saws, is about as good as it gets if your a weight weeny. Not everyone is though and that's fine 👍 Again we have designs for other versions but they are not available yet.
@@billybastar4022 This guy apparently can't take any criticism. He knows best and we'd better not suggest otherwise. 🤣
There is even lighter ones for about a third of the price on Esty
Its not lighter
That's an excellent idea. Rip saw blades are available everywhere and in wide varieties. You might look for a design where the blade folds into the handle.
I made a foldable one with a big electric hacksaw hss blade but it's heavier because I wanted the perk of cutting through nails and pieces of metal
Okay I'll give the blade a go but I think that I'll use my Stanley 15-333 saw handle
@@user-ib5mx8ro4k if nobody cares then somebody does care
I need one of these and discovered them after they’ve been discontinued. That’s just unfortunate. Sweet, simple design.
Completely makes sense I've made homemade versions of this many times. Oh if I would have thought ahead.
Great idea. Its really handy for a small job if you don't want get the cord out. The cutting is done on the pull so it dosnt blow your arm out. Yours looks cooler so you got that going for you.
Do you have a picture or video of your version? Would be interesting to see.
if it makes you feel better, its not exactly a new idea. He is making a pretty nice high quality version ...but handles that uses standard recip saw blades have been around for a while in the hardware stores.
I smoked for 35 years. I don't have the lung power for that. I'm going with the worlds lightest most powerful battery operated solar charged chain saw.
i prefer using a katana for my 14" trees
Silky Katana boy??
First impressions = Carbide teeth are a Huge benefit and the saw appears to cut super well . The tensioner device is interesting and the cordage could be replaced with wire . The handle is perfectly round , small diameter , with no blade to handle orientation . Friction tape could be used to increase the handle diameter and make it more comfortable for long term use .
I like the performance of this saw very much and there is no doubt a polymer handle could be injection molded for it . I need to order one of these and see how it goes . Thanks for a very unique design with appears to have structural integrity . All the best from a mechanical engineer .
The cordage works well. Its dyneema and has a 650lb break strength. Ive never broken one. Wire doesn't work well due to it having memory. You cant use different size sticks and once tensioned its very hard to un tension. In the beginning we offered a friction tape wrap for more grip but found most people didnt want it due to adding weight. The handle has a surprising amount of grip due to the way the carbon is wrapped, almost like snake scales. Plus the tensioning stick adds a t handle. Just some insight 🙂
Not only is that genius from a cost and durability standpoint, but you can attach all kinds of blades to it! Awesome
Exactly! 👍
All you need is a small diameter piece of tube to carry it all! Or a wider handle with a split bushing to lock the saw blade in the ending, and a cap for the other end! Great idea!
Got my 12" saw today. Put it through some work. I made a stick out of olive wood and decided to add a ferro rod to one end since the saw blade can strike it.
Wow sounds sweet 👍 Never though about using the blade for a striker since I always carry a knife. Thanks for the info👍👍
The first thing I thought of seeing this was using one of my little ferro rod toggles as a tensioner. I keep one on my pack anyway so I'm already carrying the weight. If I wasn't, they are only an additional 7 grams provided the one I have fits. What is the ID and OD of the tubing/ferrule?
Toggle? For lack of a better word
The handle being round, how hard is it to keep from rolling side to side? I was thinking a oval shape might provide better control and less hand fatigue.
Not really due to the tensioning stick. And once it's started the cut keeps it in line. Its made for two handed use. It lacks the mass needed @3.8oz to be great for single handed use. As one hand is needed to put pressure into the cut. Just one of the quarks of a 3.8oz saw🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 cool!
Better go with a serrated octagon handle with dual wrist straps.
@@JesusSaves86AB I actually was thinking of a hexadecagon with stippling. Serrations are for pussies.
@@knifepointgear5851 These people won't be happy until you make it ribbed for her pleasure. No need to improve it, the design is simple, light weight and not easily made because of the carbon fiber. Yes its expensive, but its a niche product for ultralight weight backpackers. Consider making a lower tier model that weighs more and is less expensive out of aluminum, then it will be more accessible to campers and casual hikers. Well done with this saw, can't wait to see what you make next. Subscribed and 👍.
Milwaukee makes a handle to fit all sawzall blades that’s a tool less release and folds smaller blades for like 14 bucks it’s what I use
Its too heavy for our needs. The idea here is the lightest possible 👍 We tried one in our latest video 😉
Tractor supply,jab saw weighs 1 oz, $11
@@knifepointgear5851 you can shave a bunch of weight with a much smaller blade.
yes with a lighter pruning saw blade it's down to around 3oz. these carbide blades are heavy but work great 🙂
I use one of the Milwaukee handles at my job. I’ve used a lot of different tree pruning blades before I tried one of the Diablo blades what this guy is using. I use mine to cut tree roots in the ground and I do not have any problem with it plugging up from sap or dirt and it cuts very fast
Comparison to some similarly-sized silky? the weight will be a big up-side with this saw, but strength and ease of use may be worth comparing
Wonder if a chain masterlink would work to attach the blade
Mine just got here today crazy cutting power insanely light and just looks B. A. had bahco Laplander I can't even compare will use all summer and give an update.
Thanks for the support!!
I use those blade all the time in my sawzall, they are awesome and last almost forever lol this is a genius idea 👍
Yeah they last forever on wood! And are $12 to replyif you do need a need one🙂
This is absolute GENIUS!
Words of wisdom here.. if you cant find a stick then you don't need the saw anyways
Interesting though 🤔
Also as a woodworker carbide does wear from hard woods after about 1 year of constant every day full day use😂 good material
Why is everything a “survival something?” What crap. Yes it’s a good saw, but tag “survival” or the word “seal” before it and people go nuts of these products.
Yes I was gonna do my own and probably curb the pipe or add some other mods but dude, it's your idea and you deserve credit, so I'm buying.
Handles that take recip saw blades actually have been around for a while in the hardware department. Although, his is a nice design with quality materials and a long handle
This thing is an awesome idea, i have had a similar idea with the sheet rock saws were you can remove the blade. I have just ordered mine and i will review it for sure on my channel. Keep up the good work man.
Glad I bought this before it was discontinued!!! It’s awesome!
Dude..you are a genius..now, where do I buy one and extra string 🤔 ? Bush craft and back packers are gonna love this....Thanks Man
They are on the website 👍 We have extra rope if you need some👍
Definitely a saw to have. Will be picking one up in the next couple of months!
Would love to see some of those knives you make for sale, in your store!
I'm so glad I bought this saw when I did! Please bring it back for others. Possibly the best saw on the market
Hows it cut compared to a silky saw?
This saw cuts better than a silky saw, but I still carry my Silky in my pack as a backup in case of a catastrophic failure.
Since backpackers love specs so much....it would have been helpful to provide the MSRP😂
At the time the video was filmed we didnt have an msrp yet. Current prices can be found on our site www.knifepointgear.com Another reason prices are sometimes not included is because once online these videos can not be edited. Prices can change due to component prices and whatnot. Just for future reference
Just checked the provided link. No saws shown?
The link is the website...you have to go to the product page..
Hey Alex. Just found this by accident. I am a long time sub on your other channel. Didn't know about this. Looks like a fantastic product. All the best.
Thanks for the support 👍🙏
Very nice! I use these blades everyday on the job site. Very durable!! Great idea!
Is it a T shank blade? Amazing idea! I can see how a hunter or fisherman can use this to make an emergency shelter.
I would like to see it go head to head with silky with med and coarse silky teeth. But wonderful invention
Me too but the advantage here is simplicity and weight.
The ONLY way I'd buy a wood cutting saw with a blade that short for the bush, would be if it were a folding saw like my 10" Corona Folding Saw! Thanx for the video my Bladed Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
As a construction worker and an outdoorsman... not only do I support this idea, I also can verify, those Diablo blades are wicked and do last a long time. I have wondered why those wood saws didn’t incorporate these types of blades. Great idea man. My suggestion fr covering the blade when carrying would be to carry a small piece of pipe with a cap on both ends that holds the blade and handle, maybe 1.5” pvc? Nice job man.
I made my own handle using 1/2 copper straight tube . Works like a champ.
Great video explaining and demonstrating your product. I get a kick out of what the “haters” have to say in the comments. I can imagine what they would say to the folks who brought us, “The Pet Rock,” The Couch Potato Doll,” or for that matter, bottle water. Yup, they didn’t listen to the naysayers and I hope you don’t either. Bottom line, if people like your product and feel the price is worth it, they’ll buy it. Wishing you much success!
Thanks for the kind words! I originally never intended to sell it. I just wanted the lightest option for my needs. Then a friend wanted one and so on. If just fits a very specific purpose🙂
That's about the coolest lightweight saw I've ever seen.
Mine came in the mail today! Unbelievable! Thank you so much Alex & Joshua -KentheDuffer
LOVE IT!
Making one on my next day off.
Super easy. I made one from an old 5 iron shaft and some bank line. Works great and very light. Made a sheath for it from some scrap leather and a plastic milk jug to line the inside. Went through a 4" piece of hard wood just fine. Can't wait to take it out in the woods. I'm going to make a pouch so I can take it down and carry it in my pack. Saved myself $55 - $60!
Cool idea, not gonna buy one today but definitely put it in my- buy in the future wish list. And never heard of that string either so gonna Google that to
Holy shiit I really wanted one such a simple design but really 70 bucks, 80 after shipping, for a plastic tube? And you have to supply a stick for the tension rod not even an included small silver rod that could be stored inside the plastic tube. Are they charging me an additional 30 bucks for a saws all blade that I have 50 of? Cmon now. All it takes is a small plastic tube, a small rod, and a string for 9.99 and you could’ve had a nice deal with Home Depot.. actually wait I have some calls to make ggs
2:16 ``I decided to do another cut``
But I either did not film it, did not use the footage or lied about that, because I just replayed the same clip twice.
1:57 first cut
2:23 second cut
Nice design, I'm just very picky on stuff like that. (yeah, I do get called an asshole a lot)
Damn. Your right. Look at the piece of wood from the first cut when the piece falls off. When the second cut starts, it is the same footage. Wow. Good eye. LOL
Should learn to pay better attention 🤣 Look at the end of each cut when i hold up the saw. Its a different cut bro. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Fyi during filming there were almost 100 cuts made between both saws. Each cut is only 1/4" wide so they WILL look the same. As they say the devil is in the details.
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Maybe you don't understand what I am saying.
You did reuse the same footage twice, maybe by accident. Top cut at 1:57 and 2:23 is exactly the same.
Your point still remains, you can make 2 cuts while the fiskars only makes 1.
No, im saying I didn't just fyi. Like i said look at the end of the cut, how i hold up the saw is different. Not the same cut as similar as it looks😉
A locking pin is what they use in the reciprocating saws, you could drill a hole and use a small bolt
Awesome idea! Thank you!
I’m going to the woods with my saw to cut some branches for firewood. I’m really worried about not finding a twig though.
Absolutely the best backpacking saw I've seen.
I don’t have one, plan on getting one, however have you considered cutting a small slot in the aluminum and using a washer to tension?
I did...the aluminum will gull from the washer. The piece could be made from stainless just like the blade end but it would add about an once. I wanted to keep it under 4oz. In a pinch you can use a tent peg too. The wood works best though🙂
knifepointgear so the tension of the rope pulling the stick/blade together keeps the stick from “backing out” while it’s being used?
Yes, once tensioned it definitely cant go anywhere. The dyneema cord doesn't stretch whatsoever. So its very sold in use.
Solid*
This is awesome my friend! It's such a simple and functional design! Well done! Thanks for sharing! 😊🌎✨
But for the price do we get a carrying sheath of leather or similar quality...
They did not like the name Knifepoint?? what the hell is wrong with people!!!
Geinous. Very radical idea and will put Silky out of business
Why not a groved piece of wood with a wing nut and bolt? The blade can fold Into the wood piece?
I'm really confused here...the blade itself is an off the shelf sawzal blade..the handle is a great idea...but seems relatively easy to make with just PVC and some basic hand tools. Great idea...but far too easy for me to replicate for under the $10 mark with just basic tools.
The confusion is in the weight. Some people care about having the lightest tool for the job. Ps just the off the shelf blade costs more than $10
@@knifepointgear5851 my bad, yes the blade itself would add quite a bit, what I mean is that the handle... although light...still does not provide a mechanical advantage over a curved one. One of the major issues I have with folding saws is the all suck one handed...this has a similar issue. Maybe you can curve the handle? Making it even easier to use.
The tensioning stick can be used as a T-handle If needed one handed. Just choose a large stick. Almost any saw is better two handed.
@@knifepointgear5851 fair point
You should pair up with someone on etsy to offer with a dynema sack
At the risk of public ridicule, whats a bear line? 🐻🐻❄️😳
Line you use to hang your food in a tree to keep bears and other critters from getting to it🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 well.... that makes perfect sense...lol
Glad you asked. I had no idea either 🤔
Those Diablo pruners are something special !
nice saw! do you offer a military discount?
It'd be great to see a version of this in a folding configuration.
It does fold👍
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My bad.
Must have missed that part.
So the zenith is non-dynamic rope is that what you are saying?
Ohhh,,,, sadness that's the exact saw I have, looks like a fiskers.
Now I've got goods reason to get a new one. Thanks Alex!!
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They would be cool if they still actually sold them...
Is it a few hundred since its considered ultralight
It wouldn’t beat a Kamakazi pruner....!
Sawzall blades cut on the pull stroke...
Wouldn't it be much easier if they cut on the push or both... I think the weight for a real wood saw might make up for it in ease of use.
The pruning recip blade he shows at 08:09 cuts on the push and the pull, I used a blade like that to make my own folding saw and I like it a lot. Being a Brit I'm used to push cut saws and never got my head around pull only. Something I do like about recip/sawzall blades is that they are thicker and stiffer than commercial pruning saw blades, less prone to bending or tip snapping off (*cough* Silky), they also tend to have more of a set to the teeth making for a wider kerf and less binding.
This is true. These blades have a wider kerf so there is less binding than you would expect. And why a relatively thin blade like this works well in this application. one of my biggest complaints with others saws is the kerf isnt wide enough due to the tooth profile.
show me it against a silky saw.. pls, I dig the concept
Preferably without the sad infomercial-style comparison testing.
They might as well have had the other saw filmed in black-and-white, lol!
umm ok, check out our other videos 😂
Love the idea and simple enough anyone can make their own.
It just have to ask you say you've cut cords of wood with that one blade is that with a sawzall cordless or recorded cells you're surely not telling us that you cut cords of wood with that little tiny handle n that blade by hand are you??h
Yes, i cut it all by hand. I have some of the testing on some other videos as well as Instagram. It's literally seen thousands and thousands of cuts over the last year and a half.
What do you charge for this little gem?
Where do I get one and how much does it cost?
Just off the start, I would use a Bic Lighter for the tensioning 'stick' and the handle looks a little narrow. Might be more difficult to hold if someone has big hands.
A lighter wont work. Need something stronger
Carrying that blade is a bad idea. The simple fact it doesn't fold makes this not a backpacking or bushcraft saw to me. If you wanna call it a SHTF saw simply because it accepts any standard blade as you said then do that, but I wouldn't carry this over a folding saw. You're saving less than 3oz
Every oz counts. The blade does come apart in less than 5 seconds and re assembles in the same amount of time. This is for those in the know, who want every oz to count.
Nice , but why not a larger tube to fit the saw
Sawsome!
I am a HUGE fan of using reciprocating saw blades for backpacking and survival use. They are cheap, abundant and disposable (if you ever wear one out!) I prefer the Milwaukee 48-22-0305 Folding Jab Saw. I use an regular (non-carbide) pruning blade, and I used a Dremel tool to cut the blade short, so as to fold up. I love yours too!
Same here! The $30+ blade replacement cost of most saws is ridiculous. Thanks for the comment 👍👍
Come on buddy take a look at the side to side comparisons again, just look how much harder you're trying with your saw. The screen is shaking, well the bottom is perfectly still LoL. Definitely a cool idea though.
Its because the blade is more aggressive bro🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Man if you make another run I’d buy one
Probably not as light but more ergonomic , for $18 bucks + a pruning blade the Milwaukee folding Jab saw is another good option .
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Excellent build Alex. Well thought out. I hope all is well brother.
Thanks Justin! Hope all is well over there as well👍
Buy sawzall blade insert into 3/4 or 1" cpvc pipe to handle length you desire save your money your welcome
Haha go ahead see how it works for ya😂🤦♂️
It would be great if a company would put out the kit without the blade. i think it could be made quite cheap in stainless steel if mass produced. The blades are plentiful.
The idea was lightweight, under 3oz or close to it. Anything is possible once you start to not care about weight.
is this considered outdoors55 merch?
No more Outdoor55 or whatever is was?
Okay, I get it ounces add up to pounds, but is he seriously suggesting somebody might be concerned with grams?
Who would be outfitting something by the gram,, a chipmunk?
Someone who actually does mileage.
Why not make a canester that fits the blades all 3 and used as your handle for saw and sacrifice more weight for Storage ability
Because the point is light weight. Anything can be done once you start adding weight👍
Put your saw against a silky with a similar blade length, not a trash saw from home depot.
Silky blades are not any different in cutting capabilities. We did a video. Plus silkys dont compair to the weight. How about WE make one that weighs the same as the lightest silky and then it will be fair.
Definitely not sawing at the same angle or even with the same hand position in the comparison. Not an accurate test.
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This is not the lightest saw, if you've to put toouch strength.
Silky saws & other saws best than this.
Yes it is😂 silky blades dull fast especially in hardwood i have 4 of them. The lightest silky is almost double the weight of ours🤦♂️
Wow! Just.......... wow!
Perfect design!
I've been using a silky pocket boy, not sure if its worth changing for me
Probably not, unless you are interested in saving a couple ounces. 🙂
nice saw but hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
I'm all in where do I buy it