Backgammon: The Rules of the Game - with Andrew Selby
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Great video that needed to be made. Good clarifications.
Thanks Grant
Thank you Andrew and Daniel for bringing the rules front and centre. It is something that we can all be a bit shoddy on over time and a refresher is never a bad thing. Was a bit surprised by the inference that permission would almost be automatic to roll on the opponents side. Nothing I ever refuse or ask for, but I know there are many players and some TD's who will refuse permission for very valid reasons. But a great synopsis of the rules thanks again.
Thanks Garry. I don't think a player would ever disallow an opponent to roll on the other side of the board (I certainly haven't seen it). But, always good to ask beforehand as a courtesy.
@@BackgammonisBeautiful I won't say which player but I remember asking once "do you mind if I roll on your side of the board" near the end of a game, and got a reply of "no" so opponent proceeded to watch me roll on their side of the board before going "No - I mean you can't roll on my side"......Nice
Really helpful video thanks again.
Thanks Sebastian
We had a player in a tournament when he hit an opponent's checker, would pick up the hit checker and use it to touch the clock ending his turn and then put the checker on the bar. This cheated his opponent (me in this case) out of time. He was warned but protested. He was overruled.
In New Zealand in tournaments, we play non-clocked matches with only 2 dice. You tap the edge of your board to indicate that your turn is over. No more premature rolls.
Thanks for sharing. I have adopted this 'tap rule' for non-clock play also
What is the argument of the "Legal move rule" within the UKBGF rule set with regards to rules and the clock? Is there evidence that it produces better outcomes? Is there a moral argument that justifies it? Most other rule sets and tournament directors do not apply this rule.
Why were Neculai punished for his unintentional rule break in the Semi-final of the retrospectively cancelled championship UK Open 2022, in the confusing situation where the game was stopped for a dice ruling, when his opponent Brendan ALSO broke the rules (for even more equity than Neculai did)? Especially taken into account that Brendan was most likely aware that Neculai's time bank had been drained for more than 5 minutes. Did the UKBGF ruling committee take this into account? I notified a UKBGF board member of this BEFORE they made their ruling, but AFTER they have had their four hour meeting. /Marc Olsen from Backgammon Galaxy.
This video is not about reigniting the Neculai incident. It has been talked about enough already. This video serves only as a refresher to all on the official UK tournament rules. I have attached the document which you can view should you wish.
@@BackgammonisBeautiful Okay, but maybe somebody from UKBGF could clarify then? So far they have been silent. TD Selby clearly explains how the rules of UKBGF is. Brendan clearly broke the rules in that exact situation where Neculai got "disqualified" for also breaking another rule. It's a pretty big case for UKBGF and their rules I would say, and it was last month... It seems that it would be nice for all players to know how UKBGF enforce their rules and what which rule breaks will trigger a post-tournament result to be cancelled.
@@BackgammonGalaxy I am not a UKBGF board member so am unable to answer this, or provide rationale on the decisions made by the committee. I would suggest contacting Andrew on FB who may enlighten you further.
Most players play with two hands.
Rules of course can be broken, but often, in tournament play, to the dismay of other players and TDs.
The oldest evidence of a board game (an unknown game) was from what is modern day Iran.
Do UKBGF rules vary from US or are they universal when talking about tournament play? I’ve only played at one US tournament a few times.
There is no universal set of rules as far as I am aware I have attached the USBGF rules here for you to view: usbgf.org/tournament-rules/
Andrew, in the infamous UK open final last year you persistently failed to draw to the attention of you-know-who that he was moving checkers with both hands. I was even in the room at the time and asked you why you didn't but you failed to provide any explanation. So, for the record, why didn't you tell the player to handle the checkers with one hand. It's all on video that he used two hands so there is no excuse for you not applying the rules.
Mr Selby's description of rules prior to 2014 is glib, inaccurate and a gross misrepresentation. 'Merit' rules (as used in the Monte Carlo WC) were widely used and available to any individual or club who wanted them. An important rule (which I do not see used anymore) was that each tournament had an official tournament language. Normal playing room rules regarding spectator comments applied but additionally no conversation was allowed anywhere in the playing room in anything but the official tournament language. The rule about premature rolling was also better than the current, ludicrous 'legal moves' rule. Under the 'Merit' rules a premature roll was left on the table for the on-roll player to consider, the premature roll stood or was deemed invalid at the on-roll players discretion, thus there was a price to pay for being impatient.
Thanks for your clarification, regarding the introductory comments. The 15 questions that follow and are expertly articulated by Andrew are based on the current official rules that - for better or worse in some minor cases - are the ones that are adhered to and agreed upon across all UK tournaments.
@@BackgammonisBeautiful - Well, when you post a video entitled 'The Rules of Backgammon', comments regarding those rules are inevitable. Mr Selby suggests that backgammon prior to 2014 was something akin to the wild west, it was not and by saying so he does a great disservice to people like Michael Crane who kept tournament backgammon alive in the UK for many years, with clearly defined rules. He gives the impression that the UKBGF, when creating their rules, did so from a blank canvass, I sincerely doubt that none of the widely available rules from various tournaments around the world were not consulted as reference sources. He implies (nay 'states') that the UKBGF (formed, he states in 2014) has given the world a set of rules, and yet the USBGF, with its beginnings in 2009, uses the "Premature Rolls" rule that I mentioned in my original post, as does the Monte Carlo World Championship and as does the Nordic Open, and yet the UKBGF stubbornly clings to the ridiculous and unfair so-called 'legal moves' rule. So NO, the UKBGF has not given the world a set of rules. By all means applaud what the UKBGF has done Mr Selby but do not do so whilst at the same times distorting history, using exaggeration and disrespecting those who gave gone before.
The Merit & Backgammon World Championship rules seems to be superior in many ways, in my opinion. That is why we chose to use those for the Backgammon World Championship. /Marc from Backgammon Galaxy.
@@mobiusklein9140 I hear your comments. All I can say is that I do not think Andrew wilfully set out to disrespect anyone. The introductory comments were unplanned, of the moment, and said in haste. I have been to several of Michael Crane's tournaments and enjoyed them.
@@mobiusklein9140 Can you advise where I can view a formalised set of tournament rules that preceded the UKBGF ones? I'm interested in learning more from what you mention but cannot find them on the internet. Can you add a link so myself and others who view the video can see them in addition to the UKBGF rules I have attached.