Apple is successful with its proprietary technology because people are willing to build smart homes around important devices like smartphones and iPads and Macs. Same for Alexa and Google Assistant devices. Chamberlain miscalculated because folks will not want to build their smart home around a garage door. Bad decision Chamberlain.
I totally agree the pegged comment on not buying Chamberlain or Liftmaster because of this. One of the coolest features of a new car is syncing the Homelink garage door opener buttons in the car. They now have made this so problematic, that you would have to by a separate receiver, where it was previously built in and still is with Genie. Further like most Americans I can not stand pay for subscription services, it should be enough that I bought your product, but to actually reduce compatibility and make you pay for is mind numbing.
MyQ garage door went offline 43 days ago. Been trying like crazy to bring it back online to no avail. I like that I could close the door with my phone if needed. Now that isn’t an option any more. Finally saw this. Must be the problem…😢
Won't buy another Chamberlain/Liftmaster product, and will trash their products on every social media platform I'm on every chance I get. They were happy to sell me the $70 Home Bridge, but they broke that functionality as well, even though they said they didn't. I called their support, and they said they no longer support the Apple Home integration even through the Home Bridge.
this sucks. I just bought a house with one of these openers and have struggled mightily to get it connected to the app on my phone. Never once did the help desk tell me I was wasting my time. I'll be buying a third party device to control the door from my phone - there are plenty out there
I bought my opener with the understanding it would work as a smart home device. My hope was to use geofencing to open and close door while on my motorcycle. Well needless to say they removed that feature right after I got it set up. MyQ was a huge waste of money, they will never receive a dime from me for a subscription. Thank you for putting this out.
did you go with something else. this is what i was wanting to do while on my bike. I can use the app to open my garage door from my phone still, but cant do the geofencing like i wanted..
@@expandingourhorizons9455 I went with tailwind. Has been working flawlessly. Nice pulling up with my bike and garage door opening as I pull into my driveway.
That's useful information, thanks! I would definitely consider other brands if I was looking and I'd be mad if I bought something that worked for free, then they later changed it to a subscription or paywall. All these companies going to subscription base services just for a few extra bells and whistles suck, they hold that over you if you buy their product. Other home automation companies have gone that route, brick the devices if you don't toe line and pay every month.
they changed something about compatibility, my old garage opener is not compatible anymore more, they pointed to buy a different unit to be compatible “again” either an old opener (GenieMastercode
Thankfully the MyQ syncs with Ring for the garage door opener feature and for Amazon Key deliveries. I will be buying a Ring stick-up camera to use as my video feed. I already got the magnetic base on Amazon. It's pointless to pay for the MyQ cloud video storage - especially, since it doesn't integrate with the rest of my Smart Home ecosystem.
Loving life with my Ratgdo and Home Assistant. The MyQ app and their silly little gateway have been uninstalled and I never have to deal with this noise. Safe to say, my next door opener won't be a Chamberlain.
@@sosgds Absolutely, it's a Security 2.0+ 41D7675 Liftmaster. As for RATGDO the interface is what you want it to be. That's the beauty of Home assistant is that I can pull all kinds of telemetry, control things I never even had access to in MyQ like turning on/off remotes, utilizing the occupancy and obstruction sensors to do other things and choose how much the door should open in % value. I can also see number of bound remotes and total number of openings through the lifetime of the motor. You can build widgets and different UI cards to integrate this into whatever dashboard you're using. All of this in an air gapped environment, with no 3rd party services or a connection to the cloud. I mean I don't really think it gets better than this. Full control, no cloud telemetry, your data being siphoned or god forbid a company closes their doors and takes their servers offline.
Weird because I just replaced my old Chamberlain garage door opener with MyQ connected to Apple HomeKit. It worked up until today when I replaced it with the B6713T. I cant seem to find a way to add it to HomeKit, so i guess i now know why. Kind of annoyed, but at least I can still monitor my door with the MyQ app.
RATGDO is your solution. I replaced in both my house and it's worked even better than the MyQ - I didn't think opening the door with voice could be faster than pressing the button but the response is instant because it is local and not cloud. I have the install video on my page if you are interested. Unfortunately, there are aren't a lot of other options from Chambalein but luckily they cannot control how you choose to modify your unit. I removed all connections of myQ to my garage door so they don't push a software update that breaks it again. Although the camera doesn't work but it was trash anyways and I had a separate homekit camera installed in my garage.
Garage Door Openers and Ceiling Fans are two BIG niches that are suffering from a lack of Apple Home integrability. The Matter platform does not even yet have a Garage Door category! It supported robot vacuums though. Go figure!
I've got 6 people in my house. Activities all week. It was a security and convenience feature for us to say "Alexa, close the garage door" from anywhere in the house. I had scheduled in Alexa to close it automatically at 8PM and at midnight, so I knew regardless of what happened, my door would be closed when we went to bed. Similarly, I've got Alexa locking my Ford car doors just in case we forgot. This was a very dumb move by Chamberlain. We want more control - more interoperability with our smart home, not less.
My Buddy purchased a MyQ controller about a month ago. It was on sale for around $20. No wonder! It’s now useless and he can’t take it back. I purchased HomeKit compatible Meross controllers for my Wayne Dalton and Genie wall-mount door openers. Integrated perfectly, VERY convenient. Lastly, Tesla vehicles have MyQ integration built in, one just needs to link their MyQ account. I wonder how this will be (has been) affected?
I have a 19 year old craftsman 1/2hp, picked up nexx nxg-100 then a nxg-200 and they worked perfect with alexa until there security issue. After that it hasn't worked with Alexa so Instead of relying on these selfish companies that don't want to play nice with others. I went a different route and made my own with a ESP32 coded with esphome, and controlled via home assistant. I have all the same functions as I did with the Nexx devices and more. I can have it auto open when I get home, and auto close at a specific time at night if I forget to close the door. I also made a parking light strip with a arduino which I plan to have the esp32 also control. I just haven't had the time to get it all coded up yet. But the best part is that it isn't cloud based and all local. As my 1/2hp Craftsman is on its last leg, and chamberlain is pulling a apple move with MyQ. Looks like I will be looking at getting a new Craftsman or Genie.
When Lift Master/Chamberlain first came out with MyQ, I believe they use to charge a monthly fee for it?! I thought it was smart doing away with the monthly fee. I "WAS" a Lift Master/Chamberlain fan boy and recommended them to everyone. I was getting ready to replace a perfectly good garage door opener for a jackshaft, now I am reconsidering. I did purchase a RATGDO but not happy I am being forced to take those actions. I am very disappointed Lift Master/Chamberlain. Thanks for the video.
I am one of those unfortunate 20,000+ MyQ Chamberlain users left in the cold. Are there any alternative garage door openers? I am ready to remove and replace the locally working Chamberlain with another brand.
That is a fair decision. It's sad when these companies offer free features and services just to later charge them to you down the road. I hope this gives LiftMaster the opportunity to do something for their current MyQ customers.
Was about to buy till I saw this. Thank you. APIs were designed to EXPAND usage and customer base. Cutting access to this will have the reverse effect. MyQ should speak with a software company to help understand this better. They are running a business they know nothing about.
Many people in the home automation realm have been talking about this after Chamberlain shutdown their api to their MyQ platform. We found several work arounds to their api changes until they finally removed it altogether. We were told the reason chamberlain removed it was overloading on their service. Wait.. it's not like we used the api to control garage door openers from other brands, we used it only on chamberlain door openers. So basically the same call to the api from services like HA instead of MyQ. Utterly childish. I like my chamberlain garage door opener, but when it gives up the ghost, I will move to another brand. Until then, I am loving RatGDO!
Bought for Homekit smart integration (FAIL) using my Q app works 50/50 usually door sensors causing failure. Why unreliable. If the sensor activates it takes time to reset if at all. I need to go to the wired opener to shut it. Horrible, when I am driving away having to unlock garage door and lock garage door, go through the house open and lock the deadbolt and security window. 50% failure rate when closing.
Hello. The MyQ feature does work within the app. But the connectivity to 3rd party apps and services are now limited to a certain few, like Ring, Vivint, and Alarm.com.
Can you make a video on how to lower the myQ beeping when the garage door closes? I want to put some tape on the speaker so I don't wake my family and neighbors up when I leave.
@@qmobivid you realize the beeping is a safety feature since the door can be closed without the operator being in the garage the idea is to save someone, or something, from injury by having a garage door close warning.
As a smart home Tech I can configure any dumb garage door opener to open and close with Alexa and get an Alexa voice confirmation that the door is open or close plus current status.
Bad decision imo its gonna hurt them in the long run. I'm not much of a chamberlain/liftmaster fan anymore but I've always loved the myq app, really nice UI and really easy to set up and get working. But killing off 3rd party apps just doesn't make sense to me, and the statement from the CTO saying they did it to "continue to provide myq users with the best possible experience" makes it seem like they're downplaying it, especially giving the 0.2% figure. 0.2% isn't much but 20,000 people is a lot, they're so focused on making as much money as possible you'd think they keep the 3rd party support to appeal to those people go make more profit. All they're doing is giving us more reasons to get a genie or a linear
Hey Andy! Thanks for all your great feedback. What have your customers said about these changes? Do you see many moving to the Genie product because of this?
I'm not sure what our customers here think. We haven't switched brands yet we mainly use liftmaster for resi, we're switching to Manaras for commercial though
It's the yellow and green ones, I think we switched because of the price increases and I guess they aren't too fond of DC motors in commercial openers. We installed one on one of our dock doors and it seems to be a decent opener and it's quieter then the liftmasters were
I’m glad my new home came with Guardian openers. Now I won’t have to purchase from that evil corporation and can just hookup my Tailwind interface. That saves me a boatload of money.
That is a very good point! There are so many that are upset about this move. I wonder who will answer the call in the garage door industry to bring out a strong competitor to both MyQ and Aladdin connect.
Great video! Thanks for posting it. I'm in the market for a new garage door opener. I currently have a 2007 Craftsman 139.53918D. I was initially looking for an opener with built-in Apple HomeKit integration. But since Chamberlain discontinued third-party MyQ access, and others may follow, I'm now thinking about getting a basic but super reliable garage door opener and a separate third-party HomeKit-compatible controller like the Tailwind iQ3. What basic garage door opener do you recommend for a 2007 Clopay 16' x 7' builder-grade insulated garage door and is there a 3rd party HomeKit compatible controller you prefer? Thanks!
Hello! Thank you for your feedback! And thank you for sharing your situation. The Tailwind should still be able to work with the LiftMaster openers. Their product serves as a bridge as you say. Thus you can have the confidence to use it with any of the GDOs from the Chamberlain corp. AS for which 3rd party bridge I do not have a preference. I feel they all offer a way to work around the issue MyQ has now created. Might I suggest the LiftMaster 84504R. It offers all the bells and whistles you might want in a GDO?
I just got my new Chamberlin opener with wifi and video. I was just wondering about the video part if dont subscribe to them. my free trial is almost up.
Great information. Shame on you Chamberlain Group. It's probably smart business but come on. Consumers should consider a different option. Two guys I can listen to all day, Tucker Carlson and Santiago.
I will NEVER buy or purchase another chamberlain liftmaster product in my life due to this. They shot themselves in the foot.
Apple is successful with its proprietary technology because people are willing to build smart homes around important devices like smartphones and iPads and Macs. Same for Alexa and Google Assistant devices. Chamberlain miscalculated because folks will not want to build their smart home around a garage door. Bad decision Chamberlain.
Thanks for the info, I was just trying to dial my system in. You saved me a LOT of time
I totally agree the pegged comment on not buying Chamberlain or Liftmaster because of this. One of the coolest features of a new car is syncing the Homelink garage door opener buttons in the car. They now have made this so problematic, that you would have to by a separate receiver, where it was previously built in and still is with Genie. Further like most Americans I can not stand pay for subscription services, it should be enough that I bought your product, but to actually reduce compatibility and make you pay for is mind numbing.
I added the Meross Garage Door opener to my Chamberlain/MyQ to retain my Apple HomeKit integration. It's been very reliable and works like a charm.
MyQ garage door went offline 43 days ago. Been trying like crazy to bring it back online to no avail. I like that I could close the door with my phone if needed. Now that isn’t an option any more. Finally saw this. Must be the problem…😢
I thought it was just me!!! Couldn't open from the app at all so now I know. Will never buy a Chamberlin or LiftMaster again. Thanks!!!
Won't buy another Chamberlain/Liftmaster product, and will trash their products on every social media platform I'm on every chance I get. They were happy to sell me the $70 Home Bridge, but they broke that functionality as well, even though they said they didn't. I called their support, and they said they no longer support the Apple Home integration even through the Home Bridge.
this sucks. I just bought a house with one of these openers and have struggled mightily to get it connected to the app on my phone. Never once did the help desk tell me I was wasting my time. I'll be buying a third party device to control the door from my phone - there are plenty out there
I'm done with Chamberlain/LiftMaster/MyQ.
What app do you use now?
What area do you service?
I bought my opener with the understanding it would work as a smart home device. My hope was to use geofencing to open and close door while on my motorcycle. Well needless to say they removed that feature right after I got it set up. MyQ was a huge waste of money, they will never receive a dime from me for a subscription. Thank you for putting this out.
did you go with something else. this is what i was wanting to do while on my bike. I can use the app to open my garage door from my phone still, but cant do the geofencing like i wanted..
@@expandingourhorizons9455 I went with tailwind. Has been working flawlessly. Nice pulling up with my bike and garage door opening as I pull into my driveway.
Ahhh, I was wondering why my MyQ devices went "Offline" on July 4th and I haven't been able to get them connected again. So frustrating!
I appreciate your sharing and one of the reason I got their product was because of what you brought up.
Great video man, also informational!
Thank you for the feedback!
That's useful information, thanks!
I would definitely consider other brands if I was looking and I'd be mad if I bought something that worked for free, then they later changed it to a subscription or paywall. All these companies going to subscription base services just for a few extra bells and whistles suck, they hold that over you if you buy their product.
Other home automation companies have gone that route, brick the devices if you don't toe line and pay every month.
Thanks for the feedback!
What features of MyQ do you use most?
they changed something about compatibility, my old garage opener is not compatible anymore more, they pointed to buy a different unit to be compatible “again” either an old opener (GenieMastercode
Sorry to hear that. The choice they made to no longer work with 3rd party apps still baffles me.
Thankfully the MyQ syncs with Ring for the garage door opener feature and for Amazon Key deliveries. I will be buying a Ring stick-up camera to use as my video feed. I already got the magnetic base on Amazon. It's pointless to pay for the MyQ cloud video storage - especially, since it doesn't integrate with the rest of my Smart Home ecosystem.
Loving life with my Ratgdo and Home Assistant. The MyQ app and their silly little gateway have been uninstalled and I never have to deal with this noise. Safe to say, my next door opener won't be a Chamberlain.
Thanks for the feedback.
May I ask what LiftMaster garage door opener you own?
How does the interface of RATGDO differ from MyQ?
@@sosgds Absolutely, it's a Security 2.0+ 41D7675 Liftmaster. As for RATGDO the interface is what you want it to be. That's the beauty of Home assistant is that I can pull all kinds of telemetry, control things I never even had access to in MyQ like turning on/off remotes, utilizing the occupancy and obstruction sensors to do other things and choose how much the door should open in % value. I can also see number of bound remotes and total number of openings through the lifetime of the motor. You can build widgets and different UI cards to integrate this into whatever dashboard you're using.
All of this in an air gapped environment, with no 3rd party services or a connection to the cloud. I mean I don't really think it gets better than this. Full control, no cloud telemetry, your data being siphoned or god forbid a company closes their doors and takes their servers offline.
Fascinating. I need to get my hands on one. Thanks for the feedback!
@@sosgds Anytime., Thanks for making this video and bringing awareness to folks!
Weird because I just replaced my old Chamberlain garage door opener with MyQ connected to Apple HomeKit. It worked up until today when I replaced it with the B6713T. I cant seem to find a way to add it to HomeKit, so i guess i now know why. Kind of annoyed, but at least I can still monitor my door with the MyQ app.
RATGDO is your solution. I replaced in both my house and it's worked even better than the MyQ - I didn't think opening the door with voice could be faster than pressing the button but the response is instant because it is local and not cloud. I have the install video on my page if you are interested.
Unfortunately, there are aren't a lot of other options from Chambalein but luckily they cannot control how you choose to modify your unit. I removed all connections of myQ to my garage door so they don't push a software update that breaks it again. Although the camera doesn't work but it was trash anyways and I had a separate homekit camera installed in my garage.
This is exactly why i replaced my garage door opener recently with the Genie opener.
Wow! Thank you for sharing your feedback.
Garage Door Openers and Ceiling Fans are two BIG niches that are suffering from a lack of Apple Home integrability.
The Matter platform does not even yet have a Garage Door category! It supported robot vacuums though. Go figure!
I've got 6 people in my house. Activities all week. It was a security and convenience feature for us to say "Alexa, close the garage door" from anywhere in the house. I had scheduled in Alexa to close it automatically at 8PM and at midnight, so I knew regardless of what happened, my door would be closed when we went to bed. Similarly, I've got Alexa locking my Ford car doors just in case we forgot.
This was a very dumb move by Chamberlain. We want more control - more interoperability with our smart home, not less.
My Buddy purchased a MyQ controller about a month ago. It was on sale for around $20. No wonder! It’s now useless and he can’t take it back. I purchased HomeKit compatible Meross controllers for my Wayne Dalton and Genie wall-mount door openers. Integrated perfectly, VERY convenient. Lastly, Tesla vehicles have MyQ integration built in, one just needs to link their MyQ account. I wonder how this will be (has been) affected?
I have a 19 year old craftsman 1/2hp, picked up nexx nxg-100 then a nxg-200 and they worked perfect with alexa until there security issue. After that it hasn't worked with Alexa so Instead of relying on these selfish companies that don't want to play nice with others. I went a different route and made my own with a ESP32 coded with esphome, and controlled via home assistant. I have all the same functions as I did with the Nexx devices and more. I can have it auto open when I get home, and auto close at a specific time at night if I forget to close the door. I also made a parking light strip with a arduino which I plan to have the esp32 also control. I just haven't had the time to get it all coded up yet. But the best part is that it isn't cloud based and all local.
As my 1/2hp Craftsman is on its last leg, and chamberlain is pulling a apple move with MyQ. Looks like I will be looking at getting a new Craftsman or Genie.
When Lift Master/Chamberlain first came out with MyQ, I believe they use to charge a monthly fee for it?! I thought it was smart doing away with the monthly fee. I "WAS" a Lift Master/Chamberlain fan boy and recommended them to everyone. I was getting ready to replace a perfectly good garage door opener for a jackshaft, now I am reconsidering. I did purchase a RATGDO but not happy I am being forced to take those actions. I am very disappointed Lift Master/Chamberlain. Thanks for the video.
I am one of those unfortunate 20,000+ MyQ Chamberlain users left in the cold. Are there any alternative garage door openers? I am ready to remove and replace the locally working Chamberlain with another brand.
That is a fair decision. It's sad when these companies offer free features and services just to later charge them to you down the road.
I hope this gives LiftMaster the opportunity to do something for their current MyQ customers.
Look at RATGDO. It might be too complicated for most but might be great for many others.
Was about to buy till I saw this. Thank you. APIs were designed to EXPAND usage and customer base. Cutting access to this will have the reverse effect. MyQ should speak with a software company to help understand this better. They are running a business they know nothing about.
Many people in the home automation realm have been talking about this after Chamberlain shutdown their api to their MyQ platform. We found several work arounds to their api changes until they finally removed it altogether. We were told the reason chamberlain removed it was overloading on their service. Wait.. it's not like we used the api to control garage door openers from other brands, we used it only on chamberlain door openers. So basically the same call to the api from services like HA instead of MyQ. Utterly childish. I like my chamberlain garage door opener, but when it gives up the ghost, I will move to another brand. Until then, I am loving RatGDO!
Thanks for your feedback! I need to get my hands on the RATGDO
Bought for Homekit smart integration (FAIL) using my Q app works 50/50 usually door sensors causing failure. Why unreliable. If the sensor activates it takes time to reset if at all. I need to go to the wired opener to shut it. Horrible, when I am driving away having to unlock garage door and lock garage door, go through the house open and lock the deadbolt and security window. 50% failure rate when closing.
Wow! Thank you for sharing this feedback!
U telling me i been selling motors that don’t work to ppl all this time??? The myq option is what sells them
Hello. The MyQ feature does work within the app. But the connectivity to 3rd party apps and services are now limited to a certain few, like Ring, Vivint, and Alarm.com.
Buy tailwind garage door opener. Never buying another lift master or chamberlain.
I am going to return door remote. Thank you!
Can you make a video on how to lower the myQ beeping when the garage door closes? I want to put some tape on the speaker so I don't wake my family and neighbors up when I leave.
That's a great question. I will investigate it.
@@qmobivid you realize the beeping is a safety feature since the door can be closed without the operator being in the garage the idea is to save someone, or something, from injury by having a garage door close warning.
MyQ is trash anyway. Use your garage door opener with RATGDO or Meross instead. Way better than MyQ.
Thank you for the feedback!
I installed the MyQ remote garage door opener at my second home and it was opening the garage doors of my other home.
As a smart home Tech I can configure any dumb garage door opener to open and close with Alexa and get an Alexa voice confirmation that the door is open or close plus current status.
Ok
Bad decision imo its gonna hurt them in the long run. I'm not much of a chamberlain/liftmaster fan anymore but I've always loved the myq app, really nice UI and really easy to set up and get working. But killing off 3rd party apps just doesn't make sense to me, and the statement from the CTO saying they did it to "continue to provide myq users with the best possible experience" makes it seem like they're downplaying it, especially giving the 0.2% figure. 0.2% isn't much but 20,000 people is a lot, they're so focused on making as much money as possible you'd think they keep the 3rd party support to appeal to those people go make more profit. All they're doing is giving us more reasons to get a genie or a linear
Hey Andy! Thanks for all your great feedback.
What have your customers said about these changes?
Do you see many moving to the Genie product because of this?
I'm not sure what our customers here think. We haven't switched brands yet we mainly use liftmaster for resi, we're switching to Manaras for commercial though
Manaras? I haven't heard of them. Tell me more.
It's the yellow and green ones, I think we switched because of the price increases and I guess they aren't too fond of DC motors in commercial openers. We installed one on one of our dock doors and it seems to be a decent opener and it's quieter then the liftmasters were
Brilliant!
I’m glad my new home came with Guardian openers. Now I won’t have to purchase from that evil corporation and can just hookup my Tailwind interface. That saves me a boatload of money.
The comparison to Apple is appropriate. However, that move only caused Linux users to explode in numbers.
That is a very good point!
There are so many that are upset about this move. I wonder who will answer the call in the garage door industry to bring out a strong competitor to both MyQ and Aladdin connect.
My wifi won’t even connect to My Q. Maybe it’s my internet
Hello. Yes that may be the case.
Great video! Thanks for posting it.
I'm in the market for a new garage door opener. I currently have a 2007 Craftsman 139.53918D. I was initially looking for an opener with built-in Apple HomeKit integration. But since Chamberlain discontinued third-party MyQ access, and others may follow, I'm now thinking about getting a basic but super reliable garage door opener and a separate third-party HomeKit-compatible controller like the Tailwind iQ3.
What basic garage door opener do you recommend for a 2007 Clopay 16' x 7' builder-grade insulated garage door and is there a 3rd party HomeKit compatible controller you prefer? Thanks!
Hello! Thank you for your feedback!
And thank you for sharing your situation. The Tailwind should still be able to work with the LiftMaster openers. Their product serves as a bridge as you say. Thus you can have the confidence to use it with any of the GDOs from the Chamberlain corp.
AS for which 3rd party bridge I do not have a preference. I feel they all offer a way to work around the issue MyQ has now created.
Might I suggest the LiftMaster 84504R. It offers all the bells and whistles you might want in a GDO?
is there ANY free connectivity ??
Great question.
What model of LiftMaster do you own? The older models still have some of the functionality.
Mine quit working yesterday.....why wasn't I notified
Gonna have to recommend Genie now lol
It might be the better choice. 😅
I just got my new Chamberlin opener with wifi and video. I was just wondering about the video part if dont subscribe to them. my free trial is almost up.
Great question. You still get video notifications without a subscription. The app is good with pushing notifications.
@@sosgds i will still see the video, that would be good. I dont want to be under there observation.
How can we Hack this....?
I tossed the junk in the garbage can.... I would not even sell it to my worse enemy.... Chamberlain is a joke!
Great information. Shame on you Chamberlain Group. It's probably smart business but come on. Consumers should consider a different option.
Two guys I can listen to all day, Tucker Carlson and Santiago.
🤣 thank you for your continued support my friend!
A large corporation being hostile to its customers, Shirley you jest 😂
Thou not jest ... And don't call me Shirley.😂
Terrible decision from Liftmaster, I would not recommend it to any friends or family.
It's a tough sale for sure. I hope they rethink their strategy or find more providers to work with.
Thanks for your feedback!
Wow
RATGDO!