No more TRT for me (1 year later)
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2024
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In this video, Elliott discusses his year-long experience with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and the changes he noticed after quitting. He highlights the decrease in muscle mass, increased recovery time, joint pain, and the need for more naps, while emphasizing the importance of understanding one's natural state and inviting viewers to share their own experiences with or without TRT.
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53. Recovering heroin addict. 12 years clean my levels were in the tank when I got sober. TRT has been golden for me.
Great job. How did you get clean?
54,weight trained for 20 years consistently, still do 5 days a week, train Brazilian jiu jitsu 3or 4 days a week. Never taken any type of hormone, never will. Get your mind right, eat right and learn to listen to your body. Some weeks it's a breeze, some weeks it's a grind but you learn when to push forward and when to ease back.
Beast bro. I’m 37 train weights 4 days a week and struggle to get 2 days of jitz. I work a physical job 6 days a week too.
Well what you do is start your RUclips channel and show us. Maybe even put a picture for your profile
Elliot, I will be 53 next week and am not on TRT. What I found to work is basically taking care of your health, eating well but not to excess (keep the body fat in check) get sleep and train hard but not excessive or huge amounts of volume. I guess just working smarter and emphasizing recovery as you age. 2-4 days per week max for the strength training. Praying and staying close to God helps me of course as well. Good luck!
Amen. Nobody needs trt or pre workout or any of that. I'm 44, natural and still workout at the same level as the 20 year olds at my gym.
@@stoneyj1a1I can tell you I need to be on trt to be optimal at least for now. I don’t have the luxury to proper sleep and rest. I definitely rely on caffeine but not in excess. Coming out of the military and jumping right into law enforcement my T levels were under 200 with all the stress of high risk operations and patrol life. Being on trt has rejuvenated me completely. I get random sleep 4-6 hours, but still workout 5-6 days a week with lifting, mobility training and grappling. So at least I get the recovery benefits rather than feeling shitty. I’m also a family man which I also don’t have the luxury to rest after work. It’s definitely a healthy option for first responders.
@@stoneyj1a1 amen to that!
52 never used TRT levels are mid 300s. I was very athletic when I was in my teens and 20s. Became a dad and stopped training but now and then played sports. Now I picked up weight training again at 49 and I am stronger than I ever was. I am almost as athletic but my cardio is not at the same level. I look good but I'm not 10 percent Body fat. I am a consist 20 and it looks good on me. You can see my physique in a shirt and I don't look embarrassing with the shirt off. So yeah life is good. Pains here and there so I can't train like I did in my 20s or recover as quick but that's OK. I feel awesome.
I think that bird is on trt, won't stfu
That bird is blasting Ostrich hormones.
Oh, that's actually organic music. You just haven't woken up to it yet. I know, they drive loud machines. They play their own music in every store you walk into. They play it inside their loud machines. They play it on their phones. They play it 24/7/365. They're blocking out the natural sounds with their own versions of music. They do it all the time, I say. Give nature a chance. It's good for you.
lmao
That bird SPITTIN that 528hz
It's honestly music to my ears. Most of us are TOO used to absolute silence in our little boxes. We need to be more in tune with nature instead of being bothered by God's creations.
i'm 40. when i started my cut back in february, i was struggling with recovery, and i didn't think i could achieve the body i had in my 30s. so, i started heavily researching trt. my levels are pretty low, around 300, and since that's in the normal range, my doctor wouldn't prescribe it to me. so, i called around to independent clinics. everyone was saying if you're 35 and up, you should just get on it. but, i also had to consider the $200 a month bill for the rest of my life. ultimately, i decided not to do it. i pushed through and my cut turned out great. feel like i'm in the best shape of my life. only thing i'm considering now is transitioning from plant based to vegetarian. been plant based for 14 years, but thinking about adding milk and eggs back to my diet. i get enough protein, but plant based protein bar variety is lacking.
52 natty Blue collar. Always laughed at the old heads complaining about pain. But the joints do be hurting. The struggle over 50 is real.
Turmeric & ginger tea gets rid of pain bro. I’m in my 50’s and pain is gone within 2 weeks. RUclips search the recipe.
@@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Natural remedies like this have ALWAYS helped me in my life. One time we took a cat to the vet and the bill was going to be like $3,000 which we could not afford, so we fed it freaking canned pumpkin and we still have that same cat 4 years later... Old ways were tradition for a reason. Because they worked. We've just lost touch with our old ways and now most of us rely on "Experts" that make money off of your illness.
It's all genetic, I normally never try to compare but since you are I have to say that your pain is probably very minor in comparison.
Yo Elliott! I'm fit and over 50... i never have used TRT... The supplements I do use daily are: 1. Black seed oil 2. Turmeric-Curcumin 3. creatine 4. BCAAs... And I stay away from phytoestrogens... I don't microwave foods in plastic and don't eat things like tofu... my T levels are slightly high normal according to Cooper. Hope this info helps you man! Been watchin you for years and have learned a lot from you!
Awesome, thanks!
That is great man!
I have read that curcumin lowers dht though, which is more powerful than testosterone.
This is the only reason why I haven't used it yet.
Do you feel it helps you?
My main supplements: Citrulline 3g, Arginine 3g daily. Twice on workout days with Creatine HCL 750. CoQ10, Multi, D/K2, Niacin. Along with a few others.
No one cares
@@fujimi715 I do. You weren't the one that asked anyway. Elliott was.
I am 52 train hard …naps huge ,,, recovery ice and sauna once a week …train 3 x week …ruck once a week kettlebells once a week and boardwalk pushups and pull ups once a week with air squats …discipline huge : fast twice a week …Jesus Christ is king and no alcohol no weed …love the show Elliot long time listener
Slower recovery, achy joints, and naps. Thanks for sharing your experience. I will know to expect this when I get older, regardless of taking test.
I’m 45 , cut to the chase I used Test off and on (some get what I’m saying) from 38-40 years of age…….. Got wiser about the big picture , training, eating , no alcohol, no bad habits, proper rest . I feel good now as ever being off and pound for pound haven’t lost much strength. My levels are 588 so my natural production is still good. Creatine, BCAAs, and a light stimulant pre workout for me these days!
I'm natty now, I was on some stuff a few years back but I stopped it because the side effects were just too much to handle. I'm doing things a little different now and yeah, resting more, drinking better water more often has made a huge difference. Thanks for the vids.😊
I'm 54 been natural all my life but trained very hard. Everything you're describing when you came off TRT sounds to me like the natural progression of aging. I had to change my routine definitely. I haven't programmed in a long time but I still maintain decently.
I used to do a lot of 4x6-8 straight sets heavy but now I pyramid. There was a time I could do Mon/Thur Tues/Fri Wed Leg Day split, now that's basically once a week per body part set spread over about a week and a half for recovery. I'm on the lighter side of weights but not super light. To be honest, I haven't tested since I took a few years break at 47/48.
In that time, I got into bike riding, then tabata/circuit training with weights, then bands and then came back to lifting in early 2023. It's definitely a different game when you're older but you can still get the work in. It's just slower and needs a different strategy.
I started TRT at 23 going into 24 I been on it for a year and couple months. My level started at 230 ngl and last blood work beginning of June 991ngl. It’s a game changer more confidence, more energy, higher sex drive, i see small strength gains. You gotta workout on TRT
Great to hear that coming off wasn't a nightmare. I also hopped on the TRT hype train and have been enjoying it, but I know this won't/shouldn't last forever.
Those birds are loud. Too much trt.😮
Glad to hear youre doing well being off it. Natural is better for the long run. Much love from NJ! 🙌🏼
I'm not taking TRT and power lift. I use to lift 4-5 times per week but drop it to 3. I have the same issue of stressed and achy joints and back problems with much longer recovery time. I cant run or jog as much anymore. So now i do more walking, especially trails and sands, and have been looking at getting into swimming. Sidewalks and concretes can be a challenge at times especially after a squat/leg day workout. I've also started up yoga for my off workout joint mobility days.
42 - Testosterone was 257. I didn't really feel bad but since being on TRT I have noticed some substantial improvements. My training and gains have been nice. The biggest improvements I have noticed is my anxiety and confidence are in a much different place. I just feel better about most things now. It has kind of changed my life.
Thanks for sharing man! Was red and head bigger along with my hair starting to noticeably be thinner was the reason for me also not terribly low when I got on so hopefully it won’t be bad. Also high rbc went thru the roof.
I’ve been watching you for almost 17 years. HUGE FAN!!! first heard of you because somebody thought I was you when I was living in Florida.
Good timing!! I've just quit trt after 2 years..9 weeks since last pin. Feel so much better off its crazy. I was in 300s but I think diet sleep stress was the reason.. interested to see where my levels are in few more months.. just turned 40
Just turned 30 and contemplating taking it. Same as you with the injuries, 3 Achilles repair, torn hamstring, chronic ankle sprains, a dozen back procedures, migraines, etc, and I was wondering if yet would help with the pain and recovery. Not willing to give up training 😅
Been watching you since 2012 while I was an undergrad…..you were a natty-king and huge af…want to see you like that again….
Lmao, shit hits the fan 😂. Ya know I thought about that as well. I've noticed that I've become softer over the years, but luckily my strength is still intact. My work capacity has diminished each decade. I could do more work in my 20s, strongest in my 30s, but slightly diminished work capacity, now it's down a little more in my 40s but my strength is still peak. Here's to staying strong for as long as possible boys.
My friend is 65 years old and ripped and he takes nothing, he cycles 2 hours a day and lifts like 2 today a week, he does a special diet which I am doing now and I am noticing muscle coming on. He basically keeps his body in fat burning for at least 6 hours and it is without ever fasting.
I’m 41 now I’ve been on ur videos since 2012 ish.. I use to hit the weights pretty hard loves ur motivation videos with u and Chris going hard unorthodox style sessions.
Now we ve been doing a few long distance running events a year and minimised my gym sessions to two days a week .
With the running it is hard to recover from and workout 🏋️♀️ next day, but I’ve reduced my intensity/ weight kg to about 60-70% max with more focus on correct form and overall performance style exercises .
When I’m dieting right I’m still pretty toned and have a lot of shape in my body.
But it doesn’t take much for my stomach to bloat out of i indulge in sweets/foods.
Slower recovery, achy joints and needing naps. 42 years old. The joint pain and recovery was the reason for going on trt. 125mg a week.
I’m 46 and had 803 testosterone on last blood check 3 months ago. I raised it 126 points, naturally, in a year and 100% attribute it to lifestyle. I can email results and self photo for proof.
I truly think discipline is so very important in lifestyle and results can improve.
Thanks for the video, been watching, and acting on, your help for years.
Last year at age 42 i decided to try Trt as my levels were 350 ng/dl and I felt i needed it to boost my energy and resilence for life. It worked but I came off twice after two separate 10 weeks because i couldn't commit to the permancy of it. I feel fine off it,and levels at least bounced back fine. Also after many weeks of being on it, feel a bit better certainly the first few weeks off. Certainly common wisdom would say either that i need to dial in levels/doses of TRT and stay on just come off and optimise natural production where possible. My thinking right now is I like *cycling* trt (or high normal levels) of testosterone. It's completely against the normal ethos of testosterone replacement, but here I am. Maybe later I'll pick a side and stay there for at least longer time. Right now this works.
Been training for 21 years. Turned 36 this year jumped on tadalafil and G test. I feel like I’m in my 20’s again!
Middle-aged guy here with decent abs and no joint aches. I’ll be turning 39 in July. Carnivore diet is where it’s at brother! 💪🏼💪🏼🥩🥩
47. 189cm tall. 250lbs. 18% bodyfat. Been in gym 8 months and gained 60lbs. Before that not for 10 years. Lifetime natural. Take b vitamins, vitamin d 3000iu, creatine, tongkat ali, coffee and beta alanine before training. I feel great and train legs once a week and upper body twice a week. Have to take it easy on legs training intensity or CNS fried and cannot function for 3 days. No deadlifts or squats to save danger of ego lifting and hurting back. Full of energy…. Deload every 5th week. Love your channel bro 👊
39 on trt my test levels were at 40. My body wouldn't heal simple cuts. I was 378.8 lbs and no energy. I have been on it for almost a year. I feel 100 x better. I weighed in today at 255.8 lbs. For me, trt was a life changer.
In October I will be 60 years old. No TRT. My testosterone is on the low side. I used to compete as a powerlifter, speedskater, bicyclist. I've been lifting weights consistently since 1978. I still race bicycles. I'm probably the only person to take first place in the shot put, and place at bicycle time trials in the same year at the Senior Games . . . also competing at Senior Nationals. When I was younger I could incline press 85lb dumbbells for fourteen reps, and now maybe do that with 55lb dumbells. So the strength just goes down. I'm looking to compete in some bicycle races in the sixty year old category, and maybe do the Huntsman World Senior Games this year. I've had to quit doing some exercises because it just hurts in a bad way, but just stay at it. I work out maybe ten times a week with a full time job. Weights every weekday morning. Then after work I will do either cardio or weights three days a week, then on the weekend mornings go bicycling. If I feel tired, I will back off a bit.
49 and I went through the same thing last year working out like I was still in my 30,s and couldn’t recover my testosterone was around 300 I considered TRT but had the same fears so I decided to totally recalibrate everything went to working out 2 days a week and eating better and really paying attention to rest and recovery and I feel way better I’m having my numbers checked again next month but even if they haven’t changed I’m fine with it cause I’m still making gains and feel much after learning how to approach my fitness as I age
For me, sprinting once a week made my T skyrocket along with lifting 3 days a week.
I heard more benefits to be on trt than reasons to stop in this video.
50s are legit where you start paying for your 20s. For real :(
@@steelearmstrong9616 Can't really comment on personal experience there but i would guess it only delays the inevitable a few Years.
Thanks for this Elliot, I was wondering whatever happened and the progress moving forward from trt so thanks for making this video for us. However, do you think you’ll go to a low dose trt when you’re 60yrs old when you actually need it? Like half of what you were taking just for health not for strongman etc when you retire from it all? Cheers keep it up
I’ve worked out since I was 14. In 42 now. At about 39, I started noticing that even though I was working out 5-6 days a week, I was getting in worse shape. I started getting a “soft” look and losing definitions. I was also extremely anxious most of the time.
Went to the Dr to check test levels and I’mcnot sure what the numbers mean but the low end of normal on this scale was 250. Mine was 64.
So I got on TRT and it’s been a game changer not sure if I will ever come off of it, even though I like to think I could. I’m in a very low dose though. 50mg per week done in 2 done in 2 25 doses
so whats scary about that, is that at some point your body becomes dependent on an external substance (or rather, an additional external substance) you now have to take for the rest of your life. What happens if you lose your job when you are 50 and can't afford TRT anymore? Or what happens if - okay, things are different in USA - but in my country, the only legal TRT is no longer produced (company went under), and it is really hard to get any TRT anymore, even when doctor prescribes it? Are we sure TRT will be around for everyone in 20 years time? These are the things that bother me.
@@KingslayerSrb I guess I’ll deal with that issue when and if it happens. Not gonna worry about it today. Plus, it’s not crazy expensive. Even without insurance it’s like $120 for a bottle that lasts like 3 months. But my insurance covers it
Yeah. I couldn’t justify being dependent on this stuff to even function as a man. Not having testosterone is literally being castrated. I refuse to let myself be dependent like that.
@@KingslayerSrbit will always be around, you can even learn to make your own. You can get the raw powders you realise 🤦♂️ saying trt will go extinct is like saying every coffee shop in the world will shut down, there will always be test around you just need to know where to get it, it’s all online anyway.
problem is taking TRT is a shortcut. What is causing your actual T levels to be so low? 64 is NOT normal in any capacity at any age. You need to find what is causing the issue. Sounds like it could be stress/anxiety related. also try to eliminate exposure to chemicals and microestrogens. Good luck bro.
Interesting about the red face.
I have noticed a few influencers getting red in the upper chest region and face.
Mike Munzer from "High Intensity Health" was saying that it is a sign of gear usage.
The gear causes higher blood pressure thus the redness.
Hard to tell if someone is on something or maybe had a bit too much sun.
However, I notice LK fluctuates back and forth between red and normal skin tone.
You look great Elliot! Always thank you for who you are.
GOOD SHIT. THANKS.
Thanks for sharing Elliott.. enjoy your talks. 51, lifetime lifter, natural. Still lift heavy and train hard, but definitely need to prioritize sleep and overall recovery. 8 hours solid sleep per night. No drinking and cut out the snacks and bs. I never wanted to get on the chemistry set roller coaster, so just do the best with how God made me. It's all good, I'm in it for the long run.
More than any other reason, I quit TRT after 6 months because of the same reason you mentioned. If SHTF, and it becomes unavailable, that could put a lot of men in a very vulnerable situation.
Jason Gallant is about 50 and fully natty.
I’m 41. No TRT. Pretty jacked and happy with how I look. I cannot train as hard as I did before. Takes me days to recover. I also feel like shit after big stuff like deadlifts and legs. I am not gonna say this way is better. I just didn’t want to breathe heavy like most T guys I know. It doesn’t sound healthy.
I was on for like 10 years and then I went off for 2 and I felt fine except for joint pain, joint pain is actually why I went back on.
52, eat simple healthy food, limit carbs/sugar to about 10% of calories. Cod liver oil and electrolytes. Quite active, 2 days off between workouts- upper lower and lots of walking. Little bit achey and stiff in morning.
Search turmeric and ginger tea recipe, it’s amazing for pain.
Nearly 62, life long natty but not against PED's. I train every other day doing only one major muscle group, mainly partials (full range of motion will ruin your joints AND is 100% the opposite of how our ancestors expended energy) so that gives me nine days of rest for each major muscle group. I try to eat a minimum of four Ribeyes per week for lunch and the rest of the days hamburger patties or some other form of high grade protein and fat. I also average about 25 whole eggs a week. I eat a heavy cream and butter and not too many carbs. No drinking or smoking. I float at around 18% bodyfat without counting one calorie and have 17" biceps at 5'-9". I've never had high testosterone (highest was 460 when I was 58) but was in the low 300's in my early 50's. My androgen receptors must be decent since I'm still able build strength and muscle over the last 4 years. Every man is different and you have to experiment to see what works for you whether it is diet, PED's, workouts, rest, etc. "Wellness & TRT Clinics" believe every man needs TRT but that is often not the case as Mr. Hulse explains.
Stay natural playa. Accept change. You went through an amazing life at an elite level, but it all ends. Eat well, rest better, and keep training. Be the natty 90 years old still walking into the gym without any help and doing his thing!
47 and just was put on TRT in Jan due to levels at 350 tot/ 2 free (yes "2") and have been on Levo for hypothyroid for 20years. Was feeling lethargic and weak, diet in check and have lifted for 15years 5 day splits hybrid style
Started as pin then to gel after 3mo.and roller coaster ride. Monthly blood tests to monitor, dialed back gel to every other day now with plan to quit. Honestly don't feel does much, but E you said it, 100% just don't care enough and don't wanna be needing it if SHTF (and looks like its headin there..). Still train 5 day hybrid, diet not perfect nut not bad and supps just BCAA and pre workout. Have to still take Levo due to hypothyroid as it will always be a condition, but joint ache and just back off training as needed.
Weekends are for family and outdoor dude work (loggin, building, fixin) and just have to dial back weights in training as needed from pain. Basically just came to terms my DL and squat wont be 400 anymore, by being thankful to God I can still do it, just push to at least get in the routine even if some days just bar weight.
You look good mate don't put yourself down 💪💪💪
Mid 500’s Testosterone for a man on his 40’s these days is 🔥🔥🔥 Elliot trust me on this one…I’m 35 natural (not on TRT)and my bloodtest gave me around mid 600’s and my doc told me that most patients he has on my age were around mid 400’s and i should be grateful cause these days T levels are so low on young men(3 times less of what our Grandpa had when he was at your age…..)
Your grandpa had 1200? I had 700 at 28 in checking it again in a couple weeks
@@frblaze2 most likely yes….our grandparents were not exposed to so many plastics,xenoestrogens and any of that shit that they put in our food
@@VaGdude so you're saying they were outside of the normal range? That doesn't seem right, if the max natural level is about 1000 and they are above that something doesn't add up, either 1000 is not the upper normal range or I don't know
I'm 45 and always been natural. I've never been huge, at my biggest I was 230. We definitely have to train smarter as we get older.
43, been training since I was 16, never took TRT. I'd say the only thing I notice that's different now as opposed to when I was 20 is the recovery time and the fact that I need to really warm up before workouts. There's some accumulated effect of the injuries I've had over the years, but mostly manageable. I get tennis elbow every once in a while from doing too many pull-ups and push-ups, so there's that. Other than that I'd say I'm almost as jacked as I've always been. Just limit stress, eat good food and make sure you get enough sleep I guess will work for most people.
Have you considered Peptides for the pain?? I've heard some great things about that.
I'm 58, just started trt 6 weeks ago, but, my levels were low 238,, that was about a month after I stopped a dianabol prohormone cycle of 8 weeks, my blood work after 4 weeks on testosterone cypionate went from 238 to 631, unfortunately i have no idea what my free testosterone, shbg or estrogen levels are,, i changed doctor's and have an appointment in july for a complete blood panel, i feel much better, ive always been in good condition, retired army 101st airborne, karate ... that dianabol was a mistake for sure ,, im going to talk to my doctor about tongkat ali also, see what he thinks,, i know everyone is different, thanks for sharing brother
In Canada trt is very difficult to get on prescription in USA numbers it has to be below 300 the normal range is 300 to 1200
I’m 59. Never taken TRT. Ran a marathon last year. Eat right. Get sleep. Train.
43, mostly train with barbell full body 2-3 times a week, cardio everyday for the most part. I don’t take anything at all besides a daily multivitamin. Not gonna lie sometimes it’s hard to do anything on my rest days and I just want to lay down, but overall I’m proud of being all natural, all I see people on ozempic losing a bunch of weight and other people on trt getting jacked but idk I just want to know deep down inside that my body does not rely on any substance to function. Just my own hard work and discipline to keep me working towards my goals.
I’m 28 been watching E since I was 15. I don’t live the healthiest life (work night shift smoke pack of cigs a week) but my diet is decent. Stretching and breathing exercises are huge for me nowadays. Strength training usually causes an injury of some sort for me now. I use to be able to train like crazy. I feel old at 28 but kids and work are hard to balance with a healthy life. Yoga, qui gong, tai chi, basketball, shadow boxin, and free flow movements (ido portal type stuff) are my go to now. Stay limber and fluid is my advice guys. Calm mind helps relax the body and helps it recover
looking healthy king
It might help to eat more fruits and veggies that are good for inflammation. Various ones do different things for the body
I’m 50 and have never taken TRT nor tested my test levels. I have a stressful job and am often on my feet all day. I perform a basic fully body routine (squat, bench, row, pull down, incline bench, overhead press, quad extension and ham curls) once per week. I perform upper upper body one day and lower body a couple days later. I only perform one core set per lift. For example I will perform, after incremental warm up sets, a set of 10-13 squats reps at 315 lbs or 10-13 bench sets at 275 lbs. I am pretty strong and this routine has maintained my strength and I’ll occasionally get some gains. The rest of the week I do cardio and accessory lifts like curls or tricep extensions. My body can’t take much more than that though eating more protein would help. Concerning my testosterone I figure if I still get a boner when I sleep then I’m good. I could lose of a few pounds though people often tell me I’m jacked.
I’ll be 36 next month I’m still progressively getting stronger 2 weeks ago I pushed the sled for 1200. My new goal is 1400. Never used trt or any steroid in my life.
Yo Elliott I'm 49 soon to be 50 and I love going heavy and my goal is to get stronger . I've wondered how trt could change me. I've never tested my t levels because lifting has made me feel young. Lots of energy and I am making gains slowly but surely. I'm guessing doing heavy compound lifts has increased t levels maybe. Anyway love your content and gotta say I'm Def becoming curious about trt.
Elliot if you are doing okay at the age of 45 with that physique then where are we when get to your age ?im 25 and haven’t achieved my dream physique yet.
Im 48 and ive never tried TRT. All natty and im lean and muscular. I have a good diet and good energy levels. My libido could be better but I live alone and my focus is on business rather than women. Maybe if i had a hottie sleeping next to me my libido would be good. Ive never had my testosterone checked so I need to do that one of these days. Im glad you dont need TRT brother! Keep goin natty as long as possible! You look good, you feel good! Make sure you keep those avacados in your diet to lubricate those joints. 3 shots of pure olive oil helps too. Much love to you and yours Elliot! 💙
Yo Elliot. Lifetime natty here at 60 years old. Yes you need naps. Yes training like a mad man can hurt. But I feel that training with roided 30 year olds and out lifting them on bench,squat chins. Then pumping similar movements with control will reap the benefits of strength and muscle. Not like when I was 20,30 or 40. But close, especially in strength. I just missed a 200kg bench by a gnats hair. That was on my 60th birthday. 🏋🏽♂️🏋🏽♂️🏋🏽♂️
do you loose all the muscle added with TRT when you stopp it ? if not how much % do you keep of it ?
I'm 36 and not on TRT. I do calisthenics, swing kettlebells, swim, run, and do Muay Thai.
I’m been on it since 40. I am 52 now and will always take it Especially w this toxic environment
Lifetime natty no TRT. 61 years old 5'10, 200 lbs, 13 to15% BF , achey joints, train 5 days a week Bro split, eat clean 200g protein per day, 10000 steps a day minimum, Lift as much as my joints can handle which is nowhere near where I was before but still strong enough to be a threat lol. Supplements: Creatine 10g per day, whey, omega 3, boron (defiantly works for me), zinc, D3+k, potassium electrolyte powder. Still high energy.
I'm 60. never used any extra genetic medication. I eat clean and train consistently for over 45 years. I'm 6' 3 215 LBS. I do however take herbal supplements. I do intense body weight training and martial arts. I haven't tested my T levels by my energy is through the roof. Wake up wooded every morning.
I love your miraculous medal!
Exactly my thought! If the SHTF then the supply chain would vanish! I’m 57 and am 💯 natural. I train 4 days a week. I do need more naps which is fine. I am definitely not nearly as strong as I used to be. My joints feel amazing because I don’t eat any grains or sugar. My T level is at 390 which is normal for my age. I’m embarrassing it all. I think I look pretty jacked or so I’ve been told. 6’1” 208 33” waist. I’d never consider TRT.
Started taking super physiological doses of test after age 30 for approx 1 year, after recovering from stage 3 metastatic testicular cancer. It definitely made me feel very susceptible to unreasonable bouts of unhealthy pride and apathy in some areas of my life. Took months and months to bounce back when I stopped, I have been supplementing with grass fed beef testicles in capsule form and they have been extremely helpful.
Grass fed balls? Anything else? I'm in the same boat
44 and still train 6 or 7 days a week without taking anything. I feel great. I never pushed the intesnity quite so hard as to bust myself up so bad though so maybe that helps in the long run?
Lifetime natty and starting to use more kettlebell training to keep my body young.
Shawn baker carnivore is a good examble. Hes 56 never used anything. U proberly know him but he talked about the topic a couple of times, u could search it on RUclips.
I'm turning 40 soon.
Been on TRT for 3 years and stopped 6 months ago because I wanted to get my girlfriend pregnant. I was very nervous about coming off but it has been pretty easy. I had low sex drive for about 2 months and zero sperm count.
Now I feel completely fine and sperm count is 160 million. I need to sleep a bit more now. I had high blood pressure while on TRT but nothing when I'm off.
When you are on TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy), you typically have higher estradiol levels. Elevated estradiol can lead to increased water retention, which may result in higher blood pressure and a swollen appearance.
Your red face was probably high blood pressure.
After working out for 15 years, 12 years without any drugs, 3 years with. I have zero drive to workout now after I came off. It just feels boring and pointless.
I'm possibly going to be getting on Trt due to having no Libido and a 300 Total T level. Do I have to be on something else to keep my nuts alive, or do they come back alive normally after getting off trt?
@@doitordont6150 There are absolutely no guaranties that your nuts will come back online after TRT. I would highly recommend freezing some sperm beforehand, if you want to have children in the future. Most men get their sperm production back, but as I said - no guaranties. If I would have done it over, I would have frozen some sperm and been on HCG while on TRT to keep my nuts from going completely offline. I was lucky that everything came back to normal with a mild PCT after 6 weeks without test of 25mg tamoxifen every day for 5 weeks. I would have taken HCG if I was able to get my hands on it, but I wasn't at the time.
Why would you want to get someone pregnant if you don't even want to marry them?
Are you below 15-20% body fat? At only 35 I started to get all kinds of joint problems, knee pain and had to nap all the time. It might not be testosterone. It could just be carrying too much weight. I Lost 35 pounds and now I feel amazing and have tons of energy and no pain.
Yo Elliot, I'm 42 and I was on TRT for 3 years. I'm documenting my experience coming off of it with the help of nutrition and focusing on sleep and recovery. If you're interested in following, I made a separate playlist on my YT. I'm coming up on two months since coming off.
Excellent. This is something lots of men are considering so this is extremely useful.
That’s me … 47 yrs old 5 kids, laborer, lifetime Natty, competitive natural bodybuilder. Holding down a disabled child. Train six days a week, including six days fasted cardio. Still going strong have a show this Saturday.
If interested in my whole journey and my whole story, you could inbox me and I’ll get in depth
You never lied i was on it about 6 months 1m 42 i quit i dont like being dependent on drugs. Im stronger now without trt.
Never took any TRT
and I train since I was 13 I’m 52. I have decent muscle
definitely get tougher to to train as I get older
as you know health and mobility is the muscle we want to flex
Age 55 years old . I take creatine n super greens. Get sleep. Go to bed early as possible. I train every day.
Mostly CrossFit style training. I hike every Saturday 5 -8miles in the Angeles National Forest.
I am a Volunteer for San Bernardino Mountain Rescue. Retired Marine.
I do not take TRT.
I’m 39 n had a serious ankle break two years ago. From that I gained over 40 lbs n have been so sluggish since then. I have to take naps damn near everyday after I’m done work or do something around that house that takes some energy. Been trying to force myself to be active n walk or ride the Peleton to help loose weight but it only helps so much. I’ve been contemplating about asking my doctor about getting on TRT temporarily to help me get my weight down n build my stamina up. Not sure if that’s what will help the issues exactly but idk what else to do.
Get a step counter watch or an Apple Watch, walk and get 10,000 steps a day. I’m in my mid 50’s and lost over 80 lbs in 2 years and kept it off. Then hit the gym when you feel up to it. Also make sure to get at least 30 mins of direct sunlight daily, it helps with your testosterone and vitamin D levels, you’ll feel better instantly with just walking outside in the sun every day.
I have heard that looking into a boron supplementation and cold plunges are huge in producing T naturally. Just a thought 👍
Elliot maybe see if you need a CPAP. I think it has made a huge difference for me and I didn't think I needed one.
Nice 💪🏽
Did you make some bloodwork and are your t levels lower than before .
I'm not exactly sure how old you are but going on 47 and having been doing the TRT for about a year and a half the only side effects I've had are that sometimes the hormone levels become unbalanced and have had to adjust the dosage that I take. My testosterone ideally measures about 1200 to 1400. At one point during the blood work my testosterone came back at 2200+, so I had to lower the dosage that I was taking. Overall it has helped me thin down quite a bit because even though I've been bodybuilding for 30 years I had started gaining a lot of weight around the abdominal area despite the fact that I was training like I normally do and doing my cardio.
The other side effect of which I think was worse is that I started getting more acne in my shoulders and chest. But if you take something like a DIM and there is also a supplement formula that Amazon sells to regulate hormones, which is specifically made lower acne. That made my acne clear up about 95%.
I’m 44 not a big guy at all but strong and feel good I keep moving all all the time and don’t stop little bit of knee pain but that’s all no trt. Yet
And my testosterone is 550. I can work out 4 days a week. I don't need a nap, but this is after changing my diet and resolving a lot of health issues I had.
I had quit working out almost entirely for about a year.
When I started working out again 3 months ago I felt like I had the flu every time I got done working.
I had to get used to working out again. Now I don't have that at all and I think Daddy and cardio in that I never used to do is the difference
Elliot look up pat macmanara, workout program combat strength training. Pats a former delta force operator in his late 50’s dudes all natural and a complete bad ass. You should do an interview with him
I'm in my mid forties and I'm thinking of getting on it
Honestly think long and hard about it first. Check you sleep food and stress levels are as good as you possible before hopping on. Just done 2 years on and now stopped. 9 weeks since last pin and feel much better off. Test was 350 which is why I went on. Diet was shit though. Stress through the roof
Honestly think long and hard about it first. Check you sleep food and stress levels are as good as you possible before hopping on. Just done 2 years on and now stopped. 9 weeks since last pin and feel much better off. Test was 350 which is why I went on. Diet was shit though. Stress through the roof