My best wishes for success goes to Bay Area Rapid Transit. Computer Based Train Control (CBTC) will improve the overall operations, but it will require lots of old equipment to be replaced and the new equipment to be installed and tested. The evens outweigh the odds. New York City Transit has CBTC installed on some lines for the time-being. So far, it works quite good.
I thought Bart had updated their train controller system only a few years ago as to the track side equipment. I am not surprised the rack controllers have held up so well, but showing their age they were built well. Like older elevator systems.
Hitachi Rail STS was awarded the contract to upgrade the Bay Area Rapid Transit railway with the CBTC system, which the end of the line is near for the fixed block-based train control equipment that's been in service since BART began operations 50 years ago. Hopefully, the fleet of the future will be fitted with the CBTC transponders once that system is implemented.
This is practically the same communication control system that the New York MTA utilizes. Except that the MTA’s is even older and significantly more antiquated, apparently they’re also trying to renovate their communication control system in a similar way to BARTs approach.
New York City Transit began receiving Communication Based Train Control before Bay Area Rapid Transit. All-in-all, it is a win-win for both rapid transit systems.
Why couldn't this be done 10 or even 25 years ago while the Pittsburg/Bay Point, Dublin/Pleasanton, and SFO/Milbrae extensions were getting built? If the train control system was updated well into the 2000's or maybe at the latest early 2010's the extensions to San Jose/Santa Clara and Antioch wouldn't have been delayed so much. In fact, also your infrastructure wouldn't be deteriorating to a state of disrepair.
Zane Marte CBTC is a relatively new innovation that was not getting implemented on large scale projects until later in the 2010's. How could they have implemented the technology if it was not around yet?
I understand the CBTC tech wasn't there then, but my point was "Why couldn't BART do something with the train control back in the times when BART started to expand out to the suburbs in the 90's to now."
It's not yet open, it won't even be until April 2020 (Update June 2020 due to the Coronavirus pandemic). They were just using the Berryesa station as an example for the fact that the upcoming extensions are using the new train control system, and the projected result not just replacing the old one in the original part of the system.
Sounds like they are moving from track-based signaling to something more resembling cloud-based, or satellite-based. Just my non-technical take. It's a challenge to keep hackers out, but they know that I am sure. Thank you.
I didn't know systems that use ATC systems, baltimore, La, Bart, DC, Atlanta, and Miami, I didn't know they used fixed block system, I thought it was NYC only but that's interesting that 70s tech was using an upgraded version of the fixed block signaling
Great video! Thanks for sharing! As an electronic technician, a communications nerd and general rail buff, this is very interesting upgrades!
Can’t wait! BART might be rough right now, but it will be back on top soon with all these upgrades.
This is really cool stuff to see! I wish I had gone on a field trip to see this when I was in grade school (1996-2005).
My best wishes for success goes to Bay Area Rapid Transit. Computer Based Train Control (CBTC) will improve the overall operations, but it will require lots of old equipment to be replaced and the new equipment to be installed and tested. The evens outweigh the odds. New York City Transit has CBTC installed on some lines for the time-being. So far, it works quite good.
I thought Bart had updated their train controller system only a few years ago as to the track side equipment. I am not surprised the rack controllers have held up so well, but showing their age they were built well. Like older elevator systems.
Hitachi Rail STS was awarded the contract to upgrade the Bay Area Rapid Transit railway with the CBTC system, which the end of the line is near for the fixed block-based train control equipment that's been in service since BART began operations 50 years ago.
Hopefully, the fleet of the future will be fitted with the CBTC transponders once that system is implemented.
it's really that often where u see bart trains stopped in the middle of nowhere. wmata trains do that frequently whether its peak hours or not.
Fantastic!!!
Anything would be an improvement.
Will any legacy trains still be in service when this is complete?
This is practically the same communication control system that the New York MTA utilizes. Except that the MTA’s is even older and significantly more antiquated, apparently they’re also trying to renovate their communication control system in a similar way to BARTs approach.
New York City Transit began receiving Communication Based Train Control before Bay Area Rapid Transit. All-in-all, it is a win-win for both rapid transit systems.
I'm wondering, when its gonna start installing cbtc signals?
Why couldn't this be done 10 or even 25 years ago while the Pittsburg/Bay Point, Dublin/Pleasanton, and SFO/Milbrae extensions were getting built? If the train control system was updated well into the 2000's or maybe at the latest early 2010's the extensions to San Jose/Santa Clara and Antioch wouldn't have been delayed so much. In fact, also your infrastructure wouldn't be deteriorating to a state of disrepair.
Zane Marte CBTC is a relatively new innovation that was not getting implemented on large scale projects until later in the 2010's. How could they have implemented the technology if it was not around yet?
I understand the CBTC tech wasn't there then, but my point was "Why couldn't BART do something with the train control back in the times when BART started to expand out to the suburbs in the 90's to now."
They didn’t need it back then
@@zanemarte9877 Computer technology is an everchanging cycle. It doesn't get any better. It progresses with time.
when did the berryessa station open
It's not yet open, it won't even be until April 2020 (Update June 2020 due to the Coronavirus pandemic). They were just using the Berryesa station as an example for the fact that the upcoming extensions are using the new train control system, and the projected result not just replacing the old one in the original part of the system.
Sounds like they are moving from track-based signaling to something more resembling cloud-based, or satellite-based. Just my non-technical take. It's a challenge to keep hackers out, but they know that I am sure. Thank you.
I didn't know systems that use ATC systems, baltimore, La, Bart, DC, Atlanta, and Miami, I didn't know they used fixed block system, I thought it was NYC only but that's interesting that 70s tech was using an upgraded version of the fixed block signaling
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Ok I get CBTC. But what about Communications Cringe Train Control?
It makes no sense
@@arielgonzalez5296 No humor does in 2021.
@@dinostudios6579 ok?? Cringe trains have nothing with that.