@@gdavis5111, right! Tough breaks are monsoons or tsunamis or your wife leaves with the kids, your job closes, your job relocates you across the country. Being sold, beaten, starved, suffocated to death in your own urine and feces in the underbelly of slave ships....those are not tough breaks. Those are crimes against humanity perpetrated by human beings. Call it what it is.
A child is crying to her mother, “Mom, why do you beat me every morning? And why do you give me so many chores to do, and only feed me in the morning and the evening?”. Mom says “Stop crying about your life. You should be happy! Just be glad you’re not the neighbor boy. His mother beats him every morning and night. He has twice the number of chores than you, and he only gets fed once a day!”. Many people think this is a valid argument.
Also called the *fallacy of relative privation* Fallacies are always the hallmark of the people who like to follow word-of-mouth/ancient tradition/internet memes/etc but never do much real thinking with an open mind. And during the Jim Crow era I can't think of any black person feeling "happy/content" having to face the very real reality of being banned/rejected from most places just for being born the "wrong" skin-color. Especially not in a county calling itself a democracy. At least Nazi Germany was open with racially profiling people and making sure Jews were ostracized/marginalized in German society. This was 7 years *before* they came up with the "Final Solution".
@@fyou2327 Just as Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and such spoke of things that went over the average mans head, the fine point that ACP made undoubtedly went over your head. But it's okay, twas to be expected.
Interesting fact about John Wayne while Jimmy Stewart and other famous actors enlisted in the military during WW2, John Wayne got out of service by claiming hardship because of his wife and kids even though he was already leaving his wife and kids for his mistress; the lack of other available actors because of the war is what lead to him getting his big break; so he was not just a racist and a bad actor, he was also a coward who made a living playing the hero that he never had the balls to be
@@williamfrawley1175 he did leave his wife and kids just for another woman I left my kids to defend this country; Jimmy Stewart was in his early 30s when he enlisted and cutoff age to enlist is 35 to for the army today 37 during OIF, he was 34 and I should know I was army recruiter for 3 years; he dodged the war, facts; funny how wannabe conservative tough guys all turn out to be pussies
ALL 3 of his Wives were Spanish. John Wayne only went with Latin Women. Something a “Racist” White man probably wouldn’t do. Just a bunch Overly sensitive cry babies complaining about the Duke.
leo alxaraz John Wayne was 4f'd by the DoD because of a knee injury he sustained playing football for USC and had severe shin splints in both legs. The fact rhat he divorced his wife for another woman had little to do with his lack of military service. As for creating a hardship to the ex and his kids, yes that is true. Believe me, 20 years as a military cop and making E-7 Master Sergeant, when I retired in 2004 my pay was under $3200 a month. It was a hell of a lot less in the 40s. Why haven't actors like Bruce Willis, Matt Damon or Ben Affleck ever served in the military? They've each played roles as military persons? Besides it was found that the military draft violates the 13th amenment which clearly states that that no US citizen can be forced into indentured servitude by any branch of the government and that includes military service. That's why government changed military to strictly voluntary as of 1973.
So basically, he's talking about how they should get more rights, but they shouldn't complain about whats happening to them now because their ancestors had it worse.
If you can't read between the lines here and understand what is going on, then it means you are either a complete imbecile, a child, or a racist. Literally the very first words that comes out of his mouth and how he says it is all an intelligent person would need to hear to know exactly how he felt about civil rights... or to be more precise how he felt about African-Americans. Their ancestors didn't "have it worse" as you so apathetically state.... their ancestors were enslaved, beaten, tortured, raped, dehumanized, sold, and exploited. And the white people who can't just come out and clearly articulate this truth... those people are racists. Because you never hear white people talking about how their own civil rights are irrelevant because their ancestors had it worse... now do you? I guess the irony of teaching American schoolchildren of the intolerable injustices we endured as a colony under British rule almost a QUARTER OF A MILLENNIUM AGO and which "justified" us throwing off the shackles in indignation to restore basic human rights... is lost on you right? This interview is from 1974... only 6 years after the Civil Rights Act. This means the elusive "in the past" comment John Wayne kept repeating, which you seem to enjoy parroting so much, wasn't actually that far in the past, so whatever point Wayne was trying to make here... he didn't actually have a valid one and neither do you. I am a white Southerner... and what our ancestors did to African Americans was shameful and should be condemned in the most forceful and UNAMBIGUOUS language possible. So when John Wayne says nobody nowadays should feel ashamed about that part of our history while answering a question concerning how he felt about Civil Rights AT THAT POINT IN TIME... he answered in that manner because he was a racist piece of shit. And you actually needed somebody to explain all of this to you??? Or maybe you're not an imbecile or a child so understand very well what is going on here. Right? Because otherwise you would have to be incredibly stupid to be so clueless.
Yeah, pretending that the country was always so good to black people despite centuries of racial discrimination and pretending that blacks didn't have to fight for civil rights ure isn't racist.
He wasn’t racist he was mad about people complaining about america he knew it was the best in the world at the time and he was right. Also i think it’s pretty damn crooked of you to not include the question which he was ask putting the whole thing out of context and labeling it as racist.
So it was better for them to be slaves over here than to be free back in their own country? Would you choose to be a slave back then in the USA? If you want to know what's wrong with slavery, go ask the slaves. Go read their stories and stop being so damn ignorant.
@@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00 You clearly missed the point, which was, the people of that day (and even to this day), as well as their parents and grandparents, lived better lives by being in America, as it was not them that were slaves, nor the others of same time that were slave owners, and should feel shame for something they did not do. All peoples have been enslaved by other and their own throughout history, including the present day, yet people like you like to jump on your imaginary high horses and shine a light in 1 page of book as if it is the entire tome of your virtuosity. You should read the work of the great Thomas Sowell and expand your thinking to use logic and facts. Nice spin though, buddy.
@@rotagbhd sure, I'm on my high horse, but at least I'm not making up excuses for slavery. Also, a country SHOULD be ashamed of their past atrocities because that shame will prevent it from happening again. I'm in Canada, and I don't go around making up excuses for the msss graves that were recently found of indigenous children. Sure, I didn't commit the act myself, but I still feel deep shame and embarrassment that my country did that even though it was just "1 page in history". I refuse to forgive and froget about the ppl and my country that did that.
@@muzammilibrahim5011 yeah but when israel wasn't a thing yet i don't believe jews would have been "pretty happy" with him, less considering stalin purged over 10 million of his own people regardless of ethnicity, religion, politics or class
@@DeathbatOfSpades actually the majority of indigenous peoples from Central America we are enslaved by the Spanish conquistadors in the 1500s and through centuries of trade, travel, and revolutions there are very few people who can truly say that they are actually indigenous people. They may have indigenous heritage but that's about it.
Other races have been slaves too. See: the Vikings, and Saxons, the Irish, the Egyptians, Chinese, Japanese, Rus, slavery was not decided on by the color of skin, but rather social status regardless of skin color. So yes, while the blacks in America have been worse off, it doesn't mean that you deserve more OVER another race as penance, or that white people should feel guilty about it, because today's people didn't do it. That's horse shit. And not only that, when the English arrived in Africa to begin that particular slave trade, part of the bargaining and agreements would that the BLACK KINGS in Africa SOLD THE SLAVES THEY ALREADY HAD to the English. As horrifying as this might appear to you, every single race has committed the act of owning slaves, or selling them. Read a history book, and not the ones issued out in schools.
@@blooeagle5118 they don’t want to hear that. It’s easier to blame others for their own shortcomings. They never talk about the blacks that sold them, that blacks in America owned slaves and that blacks were sent back to the part of Africa they were originally sold. It’s called Liberia, since the blacks were returned they’ve been in and out of civil war from day one to currently 2016.
I stand behind my comment and since the initial question referred to the enslavement of black people, this is what I was responding to; but I think any race of people who has been enslaved would be insulted by his flippant comment "tough break." A tough break is when you lose a close baseball game or a car drives by and splashes mud all over you. To further elucidate I will now say something flippant... "I guess he also believed doctors should put Band-Aids on gunshot wounds." Not a cool thing to say is the point I’m trying to make. If we can't respect one another from and on an intellectual level first and foremost, we're never going to succeed face to face.
@@blooeagle5118 while that may be true. No other acts of slavery has left an impact on todays world like the trans-Atlantic Slave trade. Why don’t you pick up a book?
This clip shows John Wayne saying that black Americans deserve equal rights but that there are no oppression Olympics and we should move on together That's like, a mega progressive viewpoint lol, more progressive than even today
Now we're not playing that game. The interviewer asked the clear and concise question in which THE DUKE answer that s*** based on how he felt towards blacks .Even downplaying centuries the white supremacy on Africans descent people as a "TOUGH BREAK"? And then saying that we're living better than our ancestors did in this country based on what? Eurocentric and white ideology?
"True I think they do have a right to more rights". Mr. Wayne agreed with the civil rights laws, he just didn't like people bashing American. This is about style not substance. People don't like his defense of the country's honor, or his "toxic masculinity".
Gimmie a break. His "they have lived better over those 199 years when compared to the same in other countries" comment speaks volumes. As if to say, the fact that they lived substandard to us white folk given our laws and their lack of rights (slavery, ineligible to vote, less pay, etc) isn't the problem, but what should be the focus is that they still had it better than their ancestor's of the past have it today in Africa. This is a complete cop-out and a standard deflection technique used by those laced with fear (the racists, sexists, gay bashers, etc) To each his own, but even before I knew what kind of man John Wayne was (racist, draft dodger, womanizer, hate filled), I thought his movies were lousy. The Searchers to me is the most over rated movie ever and how it gets such acclaim (outside of the scenic shots) is beyond me. As for the defense of the country's honour. What do you mean? There is no defending the country's record on civil rights. NONE. Unless you can explain it?
OK. He was a conservative white man of his day and age. Does this statement show ignorance and a lack of empathy? Yes. Was it already controversial back then? Certainly. Does it mean that the movies he played in should all be forgotten due to one statement? I don't think so. Plus, the man certainly played in a movie that showed racism for what it was : The Searchers by John Ford. This movie is an unambiguous denunciation of racism. So what matters more? This idiotic statement or The Searchers?
Latin era , Slavic is slave in latin because thats what happened to them. The history of slavery is incredible and the whole africa and jew thing is so little to its history. From ancient sumer to the tartar golden horde, George Washington and the Barbary and the holy wars that lead into the food trade race to find India but found America then west Indies to East Indies and stole millions of filipinos for slavery throughout the America's bc someone had to teach them how to cain barley on mass scale and the Spaniards that destroyed and enslaved all in the name of god. Chinese had alot of slavery too super barbaric to the southern nanman and Tibetans. We don't hear or most likely forget about all of this and more bc some like to constantly remind us that they are so hard done by and somehow we all should pay?
Yeah people who are put in chains, taken half way around the world, have all their rights taken away from them, forced to be nothing more than someone’s property and work for free, face discrimination for generations after and have to spend decades just fighting for the same rights as everyone else in society just because of the colour of the skin they happened to be born with, their lives would be the same if that didn’t all happen to them. Good point
What he said was basically true and still is. The per capita income of African Americans is higher than the per capita income of any country in Africa. The average lifespan of African Americans is longer than the average lifespan in any country in Africa. You have places in Africa like Somalia, Ethiopia, or the Sudan where millions of people literally starved to death in mass famines that has never happened America. That's why plenty of Africans would love to trade places with them and I have yet to meet any African American who wants to go live in Africa.
EXACTLY!!! But to admit this takes away from the "blame whitey for everything victim mentality" the white democraps has sold to black people for votes. How come nobody is upset about slavery in Africa RIGHT NOW? Why? Because they're not owned by White men, that's why.
I gotta say, i expected this to be way more racist than it was. I started to cringe when he said 'tough break', but after that he just sounded like an out of touch elderly man. Which is exactly what he was. What hes saying sure isnt great, but i wouldnt call him a racist based on this. I also got the feeling he was a little annoyed at the question. I havent seen this full interview, but id be a little angry if that question just popped up out of nowhere.
Stop with these pedantic defenses. Listen to all the if, ands, and buts to the simple question he was asked. What about [black] civil rights? Yes, they should have them. That’s all you need to say. He spends more time on his exceptions and qualifications than being for black rights.
@John I couldn’t care less about the Democratic Party. Racism, slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, settler colonialism, etc. span both Democrat and Republican parties and liberal, conservative, centrist, and ideologies both far left and right. It’s is a problem in different forms across the spectrum. We disagree on what racism is and you’re wrong about it. I’m shocked the guy who wanted to physically assault an indigenous woman at the Oscar’s who dared to say she didn’t like the way natives were portrayed was racist. I’m shocked the guy who starred in countless films depicting white settler colonialism against indigenous people as good was racist.
You are boring us. Simple minded people think complicated questions require simple answers. Like the human mind is just a conglomerate of absolutes. Give us all a break, Chris, and apply some subtetly to your thinking.
@@mdiggler "I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from [the Native Americans] ... Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves." - John Wayne Shut up, fanboys.
He's not saying anything untrue here. The whole reason blacks were over here in the first place is because they were sold out by rich blacks in Africa. And they did wind up better off here than they would have other places. That being said, there is no point in white washing or justifying how they were treated when they got over here. Most of them anyway. But slavery and all its cruelest aspects sure as hell didn't originate in America, but it definitely ended here.
@@brandycoke713 It’s cut out of context he goes on to say he wants them to have everything meaning he wants them too do well for themselves witch is purposely cut out
what's he supposed to be? a male version of the Statue of Liberty? He's an actor, no more or no less. his attitude is do a good day's work and reap the benefits. Sure he makes errors, but it up to those who oppose him to convince him what those errors are and what their point of view is and maybe just maybe change his mind! Worked with Lincoln, worked with Wallace.
Yea after MY ancestors had to fight and get lynched, beat, hosed and burned just to have the same rights as other "Americans". Not like the shit was just given to us as he makes it seems.
@@timburr4453 the man said black had it good in America 200 years ago. The guy is a racist clown. The only reason people loved him was because no one knew how he actually thought.
of course most americana loves john wayne with what he think of course those people would agree glad that i'm european and can think right@@timburr4453
I disagree, it's impossible to care about every person's struggle on the planet, someone will always have it worse, he cares, just no more than you or I do about who makes our phones or shoes. He's definitely not racist in my opinion, having a lack of interest for the plight of a certain group doesn't mean he has contempt for them.
oh god, please don't fall for this cultural Marxist fear mongering....... grievance industry nonsense!! Wake up!! this is all just a post-modern ploy designed to divide us. John Wayne was born in 1907!! how dare him not have the exact same values and ethics of people today?? It's all about "playing the victim". and trying to pit people against each other
Pls stop defending a racist because he is your youth idol. I know it’s hard, John Wayne made some very great movies but that doesn’t make him a nice racist or propagandist
What he has said is not that outrageous and to some extent true. It’s been said that when Ali went to Africa for the first time, he exclaimed, I’m so glad my great great great granddaddy got on that boat. 🤷🏻♂️
That's like reasoning that I like my master cause he has a great personality. He is still my master and JW was still a POS. He and Jimmy Stewart who where against the advancement of blacks in film. How do you separate the two? Oh because the fictitious John Wayne was a fair person?
@@_Mr.D Do you not still like Michael Jacksons music? Is Bill Cosby not funny? What about Tupac? He was jailed for rape? What about HP Lovecraft? He was a racist and scared out of his wits of Jews? Mike Tyson? The list goes on?
The repliers seem confused, but I agree with you. John Wayne is a very entertaining actor and I love watching him in movies. But his real-life personality was pretty abhorrent, especially in moments like these.
Not surprised to hear the Draft Dodger is also a Racist. I am amazed people still like him. Unfortunately there is an airport named after him in Orange County. We should rename it after Paul Newman, Jimmy Stewart, Carroll O'Connor, Elvis Presley, Rod Serling or any number of great soldiers who were great talents of that era and served our country.
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Young man it's 3:30am and even if it wasn't, it would take months to educate you on this subject that I have over 250 years of firsthand family experience to go off of. So to try to help you to understand why what he said was so racist, it really would be so involved. If you are in fact sincere, go online and type in, "How did John Wayne feel about minorities". After doing that come back and tell me if you think he had any particular leanings. And just one small point to think about for those that are naive. Typically for most high profile individuals that are racist, they are very discreet in what they let come out of their mouths. He is never gonna just come out and say how he felt! But somehow a racist persons true thinking oftentimes finds a way of slipping out.
@@_Mr.D you adopt a patronising attitude “young man” (you have no idea of knowing whether I’m a man or how old I am) and then saying I need to be educated. I simply asked a question which was what Wayne says in THIS VIDEO that is racist? I’m not saying he is or isn’t. I’m just asking what it is that is explicitly racist? You haven’t yet been able to produce an answer. I am happy to wait until you’ve had some sleep and rested your brain.
I never liked any of his movies anyways. All of his movies depicted the American Indian as oriental caucasians. To include Sacheen Little Feather, she's just as Lily white as John Wayne herself. Her protest at the Oscars was a political stunt based off the statements made by Marlon Brando. Mr. Brando was referring to the aboriginal indigenous peoples later termed African Americans by this government. The term Native American was established and founded by the United States government in order to usurp and steal this land from its original owners the American Indians and rewrite history. I'm an American Indian.
To walk a mile in someone shoes means to see things from their perspective and experience. If you would spend a little more time using your brain and less time being obtuse and making ignorant remarks, you might have understood that. When your ancestors have had to live as slaves, and you and your family has had to endure racial epithets, discrimination, segregation, police brutality, racial profiling, red-lining of minority neighborhoods, church bombings, lynchings, lack of economic and educational opportunities, voter suppression, and moronic remarks in a pathetic attempt to stereotype an entire race of people from halfwitted imbeciles, you would have a different perspective.
He spoke the truth. Most people don't understand that until about 150 years ago, and still today, the vast majority of the world's population is busy trying to survive till tomorrow. If you don't believe it, then go to some third world countries instead of trying to destroy this country.
There are anecdotes from colleagues and co-workers that show he wasn't a racist, but he does appear to have been out of touch with how blacks were treated in other parts of America. He was aware of the struggles in the south, so didn't it register? Calling it a "tough break" was really cringe as well. Segregation and slavery are not "tough breaks."
Yikes, i think that's what happens when you get your information from a friend rather than do your own research, because if he honestly knew what those people have been through then he would've known how bad he sounds.
I don't know what you mean or who you are talking about, but John Wayne was no racist. Look it up, the way that he helped these people, the charities he donated to. You people have nothing better to do than attack someone who has been dead for 40 plus years. Blacks aren't the only ones who have had a hard life, try reading about when the Irish starting coming to America in the 1800s.
@@wildcatselite1 John Wayne didnt sound stupid. You do. John Wayne was right when he said the blacks have had a tough break and that they need to get on with their lives and stop using one time period in history constantly as a means of getting what they want. How many generations have to pay for what some people did 150 yrs ago? What is with you people? Get a life already. John Wayne was making a point. You dont see the Irish, the Puerto Ricans, the Germans, the Chnese, the Italians, the Indians crying "hardship" constantly, but thats all the liberal blacks ever seem to do. They get bleeding heart suckers like you people to advocate for them. John Wayne was simply saying theyve been through a lot sure, but now its time to bury the past and move on with your life. Make a life for yourself and your family. Get the things that you want through hard work, not because somebodys giving you a handout, not because you tell them that you deserve it. Stop trying to make people feel guilty for what happened to your ancestors. White people do not have to keep on paying for the cruelty that was shown to the blacks 150 yrs ago. Most of the blacks today that go around shooting their faces off, cant even trace their lineage back to the slaves. Most of them for the last 60 plus have been living the good life. They have chances for education, wealth, fame, nothing is held back from them if the prove themselves worthy of it. They cant just sit at home with their hands always out collecting welfare and not expect that people are going to be annoyed with them. They were not the slaves. The people to try and help would have been the people who used to be slaves, not these lazy, con artists, who insist that we pay them reparations. Reparations for what, sitting on their backsides all day?
That's a reasonable view to have, and when he says they've had a 'tough break', I'm pretty sure he's talking about in the 20th century and not slavery times.
It was either being enslaved in America or enslaved in Africa by their own. Terrible choice, although the African slave masters were much more brutal than the whites in America...
If understatement is the worst thing he said here then he didn't look too bad here. Miles better than cliven bundy looked and that was like a decade ago
would it be if said today though? everyone on this country DOES have a better life here now than anywhere else whether its me (scots irish german) or a black person or an asian person or a spanish person.. well not the native americans and for that i do feel a tinge bad cause my ancestors actually had something to do with that
“They’ve had a better life here, their fathers and mothers, than they would’ve had any place else.” Think about how wrong this statement is. Straight racist to his core.
The Duke's Playboy interview revealed who he really was his remarks about Native Americans and African Americans were so bad they had to rename a whole Airport that was named after him
@@_Mr.D did the poo4 baby black man get his wittle feewings hurt by a healthy dose or truth any black preach would tell your stupid ass on Sunday morning if you were man enough to listen or had iq enough to process
How is what John Wayne said racist. Racist is when you won't let all the people from central Africa or Asian illegally come in freely like south of the border. Most have to apply.
That’s merely a justification in the practice of slavery. “You would have been better off with slavery” doesn’t justify generational enslavement WITH NO RIGHTS
Relative Privation fallacy is irrelevant. What matters was if his statements have merit. They do. Other races, mostly whites, have been persecuted ever since by giving away jobs for a race that wasnt equipped to do the work, or had a much lower aptitude. Furthermore, the relative ability - or inability - of different racial capabilities is a scientific fact. Thus, relative privation is just a subterfuge to a more complicated issue.
@@treefellonya Why is his fallacious reasoning irrelevant? He could be 100% in accordance with the state of affairs and yet still reasoning fallaciously, Old John here ought have had better arguments.
@@treefellonya My racist view must be supported by science, otherwise it would mean they were developed in the 17th century by economic cynicism to serve a ruling class I will never be a part of and that second option is too much of a bummer to accept.
Segregation worked to be honest they just didn’t treat the segregation fairly. Black bathrooms and water fountains were in worse condition if they were in equal condition and blacks could build their own communities just like native Americans have done I think it could work. “OH SHEIT DAS RACISS SEGREGATION BAD.”
To me he will forever be a racist draft dogger who tried to attack a Native American woman at an award show. Also how are people who were lynched daily and constantly faced with violence before civil rights were enacted supposed to find their way in this country?
Exactly. Im black american and me and my dad and grandad were able to live in a big free land,eat great foods,be americans, fuck different women of different races, buy a beer,and generally people are friendly and if we make the effort everyone is. If we lived in shithole countries like uganda,nigeria and somalia our life would be pretty bas. John Wayne r.i.p
What he said you can apply to any ethnic group as well - Italian, Irish, German. I think it pretty sad for the poster of this video to use it in this way. Pathetic really.
@JH - Any person of the past, viewed by today’s ridiculous standards, would be a racist and bigot to you. A little sanctimonious and self-serving primate you are - one that exists to tear down anything that doesn’t fit in with your perfect sensibilities. Life is filled context and nuance. You’ll never amount to anything so simply try tear down those that have contributed. Life’s a zero-sum game for a character like you. The irony is you project your racism and bigotry thinking you are so moral. I’ll take imperfect people you call names over someone like you anyway. I’m pretty certain you’re a hot mess.
@JH - Think you were triggered first - ‘JW is a racist bigot’ blah blah. 😩😩😩 Lol Too bad you couldn’t go back in time and tell him off since you’re such a tough guy. 🤜🤕
@JH yes do you actually know the numbers of those ethnicities that were slaves? Far more than blacks and that’s something you won’t learn in history class. They conveniently skip over that portion of our nation’s history and prey on idiots like you.
Never been a John Wayne fan, but he died 40 years before this video was posted. So I don't understand the point of posting it. To prove people had views many years ago we find shocking now?
Imagine watching someone say that black Americans should be happy they are in America during the time of Jim Crow and Segregation because it could be worse elsewhere and concluding there is nothing racist. Then imagine getting 7 people to agree with that. Only in America
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding John Wayne here. He’s saying that they were treated worse in other countries (many countries still treat them poorly). I disagree and think we should feel bad, however he does have a point. They were selling each other as slaves and from what I understand they still do. He said they should have rights but it’s not like they would have been treated better elsewhere.
Do you know who enlaved the american blacks? It was black african slavers, whites just bought them, we never went to the jungle with a net. And guess what, whites are the only race till this day that have abolished slavery.
How true is it that they had better lives in America than they would've otherwise? I'm now interested in looking at sources that discuss whether this is correct.
@@finnicpatriot6399 Would you say this representative of the rest of the world, or did you particularly try to pull up bad examples? I'm still open to accept the theory, but your supporting examples just don't tell me much. Although... Maybe if people simply fail to give examples of better living conditions than the US, then I can slowly start to accept that as evidence. :)
@@rubenpartono Caribbean sugar plantations had much more arduous conditions as well. And what do you mean by rest of the world? We're talking about African slavery, correct? When we say "them" we specifically mean people who'd already been enslaved by a more powerful African kingdom or tribe. From there you could either remain enslaved in Africa (as most did) or become part of the surplus that was shipped elsewhere. Generally speaking treatment of slaves shifted from place to place and culture to culture, but generally if you were an African slave shipped elsewhere during this time period, North-America was probably the least terrible out of all the horrendous options. Horrendous nonetheless, but higher in survivability than the aforementioned options.
@@finnicpatriot6399 I see, thanks this is way more convincing. I think what especially made it click for me is that the slaves, if not sent to the US, will still be slaves elsewhere.
It's called history, that is why we are talking about John Wayne. People like John Wayne helped create the world we live in today. A world of racial bigotry which causes human suffering and death. John Wayne supported and loved all the U.S. wars but never fought in any of them, and neither did his children. Wayne was not a man of peace and empathy when it came to war. Wayne hated the people like John Lennon who promoted peace and empathy.
@@theanalogkid3763 WE talk about Abraham Lincoln or Elvis Presley from a history perspective, so then why can't we talk about. John Wayne. If you study history you just might learn something.
@@theanalogkid3763 AnalogKid, the fact that you Don't care makes you a pathetic human being. You are a history buff of mainstream history. Growing up in a white bread community, I realize educating white people or deprogramming white people is not easy.
Keep thinking you're a victim buddy it'll get you real far in life. Our country is the farthest thing from racist. If you even say a single thing against blacks or gays today your life is destroyed but you sure as hell can shit on whites all day long and nothing will happen to you. Keep believing the lies.....
Your title about being "racist" is the main problem here. He's speaking the truth. You don't want to hear the truth, so you lable somebody racist or any other word you people use.
People say that john Wayne's views were part of the times he lived in but Kirk dougles helped black listed people and left 53 million to charity
Old racist always use that line, it was a different time, BS.
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@@sirquacksalot6463 man. You really really hate the idea of anybody looking out for the black community. There’s a word for that; a racist.
People will still be using that excuse 20 years from now. "2022 was a different time. You should excuse his racism because most other people did."
@@gdavis5111 Lol! People have been using that same old excuse since Socrates. 😂
Slavery was a "tough break" in fairness to John.
@@gdavis5111 he was right about having the whole country feel sorry for them, that’s giving them pity which is the worst thing any human can have
Tough break might not be his best choice of words but I doubt he meant harm in it
@@gdavis5111, right! Tough breaks are monsoons or tsunamis or your wife leaves with the kids, your job closes, your job relocates you across the country. Being sold, beaten, starved, suffocated to death in your own urine and feces in the underbelly of slave ships....those are not tough breaks. Those are crimes against humanity perpetrated by human beings. Call it what it is.
@@susanjerrell9220 Well said
@@crosscountrypimpinrussiauk3506 weird pathetic and meaningless troll attempt, your life is pathetic
A child is crying to her mother, “Mom, why do you beat me every morning? And why do you give me so many chores to do, and only feed me in the morning and the evening?”.
Mom says “Stop crying about your life. You should be happy! Just be glad you’re not the neighbor boy. His mother beats him every morning and night. He has twice the number of chores than you, and he only gets fed once a day!”.
Many people think this is a valid argument.
Also called the *fallacy of relative privation*
Fallacies are always the hallmark of the people who like to follow word-of-mouth/ancient tradition/internet memes/etc but never do much real thinking with an open mind.
And during the Jim Crow era I can't think of any black person feeling "happy/content" having to face the very real reality of being banned/rejected from most places just for being born the "wrong" skin-color. Especially not in a county calling itself a democracy. At least Nazi Germany was open with racially profiling people and making sure Jews were ostracized/marginalized in German society. This was 7 years *before* they came up with the "Final Solution".
Thank you, that was such a vivid powerful illustration!
Oh, wow, man. That was like, some philosophical Socrates stuff, man.
@@fyou2327 Just as Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and such spoke of things that went over the average mans head, the fine point that ACP made undoubtedly went over your head.
But it's okay, twas to be expected.
They’d be still running around naked with spears in the desert without the white man
Interesting fact about John Wayne while Jimmy Stewart and other famous actors enlisted in the military during WW2, John Wayne got out of service by claiming hardship because of his wife and kids even though he was already leaving his wife and kids for his mistress; the lack of other available actors because of the war is what lead to him getting his big break; so he was not just a racist and a bad actor, he was also a coward who made a living playing the hero that he never had the balls to be
You don't leave your kids and he was in his mid 30"s. John Wayne raised a lot of money for the war effort.
@@williamfrawley1175 he did leave his wife and kids just for another woman I left my kids to defend this country; Jimmy Stewart was in his early 30s when he enlisted and cutoff age to enlist is 35 to for the army today 37 during OIF, he was 34 and I should know I was army recruiter for 3 years; he dodged the war, facts; funny how wannabe conservative tough guys all turn out to be pussies
ALL 3 of his Wives were Spanish. John Wayne only went with Latin Women. Something a “Racist” White man probably wouldn’t do. Just a bunch Overly sensitive cry babies complaining about the Duke.
leo alxaraz
John Wayne was 4f'd by the DoD because of a knee injury he sustained playing football for USC and had severe shin splints in both legs. The fact rhat he divorced his wife for another woman had little to do with his lack of military service. As for creating a hardship to the ex and his kids, yes that is true. Believe me, 20 years as a military cop and making E-7 Master Sergeant, when I retired in 2004 my pay was under $3200 a month. It was a hell of a lot less in the 40s. Why haven't actors like Bruce Willis, Matt Damon or Ben Affleck ever served in the military? They've each played roles as military persons? Besides it was found that the military draft violates the 13th amenment which clearly states that that no US citizen can be forced into indentured servitude by any branch of the government and that includes military service. That's why government changed military to strictly voluntary as of 1973.
Leo, you made a very good point.
So basically, he's talking about how they should get more rights, but they shouldn't complain about whats happening to them now because their ancestors had it worse.
Does that make it right?
@@MF-Rell don't understand your question
If you can't read between the lines here and understand what is going on, then it means you are either a complete imbecile, a child, or a racist. Literally the very first words that comes out of his mouth and how he says it is all an intelligent person would need to hear to know exactly how he felt about civil rights... or to be more precise how he felt about African-Americans. Their ancestors didn't "have it worse" as you so apathetically state.... their ancestors were enslaved, beaten, tortured, raped, dehumanized, sold, and exploited. And the white people who can't just come out and clearly articulate this truth... those people are racists. Because you never hear white people talking about how their own civil rights are irrelevant because their ancestors had it worse... now do you? I guess the irony of teaching American schoolchildren of the intolerable injustices we endured as a colony under British rule almost a QUARTER OF A MILLENNIUM AGO and which "justified" us throwing off the shackles in indignation to restore basic human rights... is lost on you right?
This interview is from 1974... only 6 years after the Civil Rights Act. This means the elusive "in the past" comment John Wayne kept repeating, which you seem to enjoy parroting so much, wasn't actually that far in the past, so whatever point Wayne was trying to make here... he didn't actually have a valid one and neither do you. I am a white Southerner... and what our ancestors did to African Americans was shameful and should be condemned in the most forceful and UNAMBIGUOUS language possible. So when John Wayne says nobody nowadays should feel ashamed about that part of our history while answering a question concerning how he felt about Civil Rights AT THAT POINT IN TIME... he answered in that manner because he was a racist piece of shit. And you actually needed somebody to explain all of this to you??? Or maybe you're not an imbecile or a child so understand very well what is going on here. Right? Because otherwise you would have to be incredibly stupid to be so clueless.
@@MF-Rell how about learn how to comorehend a queation properly and then redirect your anger properly dumb fuck.
@@ifightfortuna401no, the answer to his question is: No.
This isn't racist.
Yeah, pretending that the country was always so good to black people despite centuries of racial discrimination and pretending that blacks didn't have to fight for civil rights ure isn't racist.
He has a racist background and this is extremely racially insensitive
He wasn’t racist he was mad about people complaining about america he knew it was the best in the world at the time and he was right. Also i think it’s pretty damn crooked of you to not include the question which he was ask putting the whole thing out of context and labeling it as racist.
So it was better for them to be slaves over here than to be free back in their own country? Would you choose to be a slave back then in the USA?
If you want to know what's wrong with slavery, go ask the slaves. Go read their stories and stop being so damn ignorant.
@@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00 You clearly missed the point, which was, the people of that day (and even to this day), as well as their parents and grandparents, lived better lives by being in America, as it was not them that were slaves, nor the others of same time that were slave owners, and should feel shame for something they did not do. All peoples have been enslaved by other and their own throughout history, including the present day, yet people like you like to jump on your imaginary high horses and shine a light in 1 page of book as if it is the entire tome of your virtuosity. You should read the work of the great Thomas Sowell and expand your thinking to use logic and facts. Nice spin though, buddy.
@@rotagbhd sure, I'm on my high horse, but at least I'm not making up excuses for slavery.
Also, a country SHOULD be ashamed of their past atrocities because that shame will prevent it from happening again. I'm in Canada, and I don't go around making up excuses for the msss graves that were recently found of indigenous children. Sure, I didn't commit the act myself, but I still feel deep shame and embarrassment that my country did that even though it was just "1 page in history". I refuse to forgive and froget about the ppl and my country that did that.
Stalin: Hey Jews, you should be happy with how I treated you because Hitler would be worse.
Given that Stalin helped in the creation of Israel, jews would be pretty happy with him imo.
Christian europeans always persecuted jews not just hitler or stalin so yall need to give credit where credit is do
soviet jews: sure mmmmmhmmmm
Umm yes
@@muzammilibrahim5011 yeah but when israel wasn't a thing yet i don't believe jews would have been "pretty happy" with him, less considering stalin purged over 10 million of his own people regardless of ethnicity, religion, politics or class
Sacheen Littlefeather is a hero! That much I can tell you!
You know shes Mexican right
@@GoodMorningVietnam98 she was born in California…
She's an actress . 🤦♂️
@@GoodMorningVietnam98 You know Mexicans are Indigenous right?
@@DeathbatOfSpades actually the majority of indigenous peoples from Central America we are enslaved by the Spanish conquistadors in the 1500s and through centuries of trade, travel, and revolutions there are very few people who can truly say that they are actually indigenous people.
They may have indigenous heritage but that's about it.
Did he just refer to over 245 years of slavery as a tough break???? I'm done.
Other races have been slaves too. See: the Vikings, and Saxons, the Irish, the Egyptians, Chinese, Japanese, Rus, slavery was not decided on by the color of skin, but rather social status regardless of skin color. So yes, while the blacks in America have been worse off, it doesn't mean that you deserve more OVER another race as penance, or that white people should feel guilty about it, because today's people didn't do it. That's horse shit. And not only that, when the English arrived in Africa to begin that particular slave trade, part of the bargaining and agreements would that the BLACK KINGS in Africa SOLD THE SLAVES THEY ALREADY HAD to the English.
As horrifying as this might appear to you, every single race has committed the act of owning slaves, or selling them.
Read a history book, and not the ones issued out in schools.
@@blooeagle5118 they don’t want to hear that. It’s easier to blame others for their own shortcomings. They never talk about the blacks that sold them, that blacks in America owned slaves and that blacks were sent back to the part of Africa they were originally sold. It’s called Liberia, since the blacks were returned they’ve been in and out of civil war from day one to currently 2016.
I stand behind my comment and since the initial question referred to the enslavement of black people, this is what I was responding to; but I think any race of people who has been enslaved would be insulted by his flippant comment "tough break." A tough break is when you lose a close baseball game or a car drives by and splashes mud all over you. To further elucidate I will now say something flippant... "I guess he also believed doctors should put Band-Aids on gunshot wounds." Not a cool thing to say is the point I’m trying to make. If we can't respect one another from and on an intellectual level first and foremost, we're never going to succeed face to face.
@@blooeagle5118 actually the slave trade was started by the Portuguese first and then the Spanish.
@@blooeagle5118 while that may be true. No other acts of slavery has left an impact on todays world like the trans-Atlantic Slave trade. Why don’t you pick up a book?
This clip shows John Wayne saying that black Americans deserve equal rights but that there are no oppression Olympics and we should move on together
That's like, a mega progressive viewpoint lol, more progressive than even today
So what race didn’t get basic rice until the late 1960s and what race can’t sue for slavery because the government make sure we can’t
You’re coping man
@@lucas4177the hell are oppression Olympics?
@@glenstortroen1286 In other words, oppression is not a competition. No one wins at the victimhood game.
Where did you found this interview?
And what is the source?
To be fair, why not post the whole interview? I don't like to form opinions on something that may or may not have been taken out of context.
Because then the OP wouldn't get the traction this lame piece of clickbait he posted.
@@vincef.5378
He was a racist white like most of you
@BustBoy333 Cosby? you're sick
Now we're not playing that game. The interviewer asked the clear and concise question in which THE DUKE answer that s*** based on how he felt towards blacks .Even downplaying centuries the white supremacy on Africans descent people as a "TOUGH BREAK"? And then saying that we're living better than our ancestors did in this country based on what? Eurocentric and white ideology?
@@vincef.5378 the rest of the interview just got worse.He was a good actor but a truly terrible person.It is what it is.
"True I think they do have a right to more rights". Mr. Wayne agreed with the civil rights laws, he just didn't like people bashing American. This is about style not substance. People don't like his defense of the country's honor, or his "toxic masculinity".
Yet he never fought in the war for America. What an hypocrite SOB!
@@dila4834 When the war broke out John Wayne was 34.
@@bryannoyce He tried everything to not enlist on the military. He even got an A3 deferment. Still a coward.
Gimmie a break. His "they have lived better over those 199 years when compared to the same in other countries" comment speaks volumes. As if to say, the fact that they lived substandard to us white folk given our laws and their lack of rights (slavery, ineligible to vote, less pay, etc) isn't the problem, but what should be the focus is that they still had it better than their ancestor's of the past have it today in Africa. This is a complete cop-out and a standard deflection technique used by those laced with fear (the racists, sexists, gay bashers, etc) To each his own, but even before I knew what kind of man John Wayne was (racist, draft dodger, womanizer, hate filled), I thought his movies were lousy. The Searchers to me is the most over rated movie ever and how it gets such acclaim (outside of the scenic shots) is beyond me. As for the defense of the country's honour. What do you mean? There is no defending the country's record on civil rights. NONE. Unless you can explain it?
You can't defend something you don't have.
OK. He was a conservative white man of his day and age. Does this statement show ignorance and a lack of empathy? Yes. Was it already controversial back then? Certainly. Does it mean that the movies he played in should all be forgotten due to one statement? I don't think so. Plus, the man certainly played in a movie that showed racism for what it was : The Searchers by John Ford. This movie is an unambiguous denunciation of racism. So what matters more? This idiotic statement or The Searchers?
Isn't the word "slave" of Slavic origin? What's the history there?
True
Latin era , Slavic is slave in latin because thats what happened to them.
The history of slavery is incredible and the whole africa and jew thing is so little to its history. From ancient sumer to the tartar golden horde, George Washington and the Barbary and the holy wars that lead into the food trade race to find India but found America then west Indies to East Indies and stole millions of filipinos for slavery throughout the America's bc someone had to teach them how to cain barley on mass scale and the Spaniards that destroyed and enslaved all in the name of god. Chinese had alot of slavery too super barbaric to the southern nanman and Tibetans.
We don't hear or most likely forget about all of this and more bc some like to constantly remind us that they are so hard done by and somehow we all should pay?
I missed the part where he was being racist, all i see is a man talking sense.
Yeah people who are put in chains, taken half way around the world, have all their rights taken away from them, forced to be nothing more than someone’s property and work for free, face discrimination for generations after and have to spend decades just fighting for the same rights as everyone else in society just because of the colour of the skin they happened to be born with, their lives would be the same if that didn’t all happen to them. Good point
Yup my Cracka be spitting facts ✊🏻
Exactly. Bleeding hearts on this page make me sick
Exactly.
Coming from a racist
What he said was basically true and still is. The per capita income of African Americans is higher than the per capita income of any country in Africa. The average lifespan of African Americans is longer than the average lifespan in any country in Africa. You have places in Africa like Somalia, Ethiopia, or the Sudan where millions of people literally starved to death in mass famines that has never happened America. That's why plenty of Africans would love to trade places with them and I have yet to meet any African American who wants to go live in Africa.
EXACTLY!!! But to admit this takes away from the "blame whitey for everything victim mentality" the white democraps has sold to black people for votes. How come nobody is upset about slavery in Africa RIGHT NOW? Why? Because they're not owned by White men, that's why.
No one here cares about facts and statistics so don’t waste your time.
Nothing he said is racist. By today standards telling someone they're lucky is considered racist...
Most people agree with John Wayne 🤠
You're wrong.
You should not speak for anyone else.
I gotta say, i expected this to be way more racist than it was. I started to cringe when he said 'tough break', but after that he just sounded like an out of touch elderly man. Which is exactly what he was. What hes saying sure isnt great, but i wouldnt call him a racist based on this.
I also got the feeling he was a little annoyed at the question. I havent seen this full interview, but id be a little angry if that question just popped up out of nowhere.
no . not really. you missed the whole point looking for something not there
He's right and that's not racist.
So he was right to say blacks have had it good over the last 199 years. You can't be serious. 🤡
Literally nothing he said is untrue!
I love how the picture shows blacks living as kings in the short pic. Like that’s how they all lived outside America.. haha.
Stop with these pedantic defenses. Listen to all the if, ands, and buts to the simple question he was asked.
What about [black] civil rights? Yes, they should have them. That’s all you need to say. He spends more time on his exceptions and qualifications than being for black rights.
He was the most racist celebrity ever and the American population still loves him 🤔. MERICA!!!!!
@John I couldn’t care less about the Democratic Party. Racism, slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, settler colonialism, etc. span both Democrat and Republican parties and liberal, conservative, centrist, and ideologies both far left and right. It’s is a problem in different forms across the spectrum.
We disagree on what racism is and you’re wrong about it. I’m shocked the guy who wanted to physically assault an indigenous woman at the Oscar’s who dared to say she didn’t like the way natives were portrayed was racist. I’m shocked the guy who starred in countless films depicting white settler colonialism against indigenous people as good was racist.
he was not racist at all ....
You are boring us. Simple minded people think complicated questions require simple answers. Like the human mind is just a conglomerate of absolutes. Give us all a break, Chris, and apply some subtetly to your thinking.
@@mdiggler "I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of
responsibility. I don't believe giving
authority and positions of leadership
and judgment to irresponsible people
I don't feel we did wrong in taking
this great country away from [the
Native Americans] ... Our so-called
stealing of this country from them was
just a matter of survival. There were
great numbers of people who needed
new land, and the Indians were
selfishly trying to keep it for
themselves." - John Wayne
Shut up, fanboys.
Slavery, jim crow, supremacy terrorism, and other forms of dehumanization is just a "tough break" according to John Wayne
He's not saying anything untrue here. The whole reason blacks were over here in the first place is because they were sold out by rich blacks in Africa. And they did wind up better off here than they would have other places. That being said, there is no point in white washing or justifying how they were treated when they got over here. Most of them anyway. But slavery and all its cruelest aspects sure as hell didn't originate in America, but it definitely ended here.
He was NOT a racist. That is utter nonsense.
How you know that
@@brandycoke713 It’s cut out of context he goes on to say he wants them to have everything meaning he wants them too do well for themselves
witch is purposely cut out
The duke speaks the truth here
John Wayne, Hollywood icon: On the surface, a bigger than life hero that takes all comers. Under the surface, a small-minded, vain bigot.
😆dumbfucks
Yep
what's he supposed to be? a male version of the Statue of Liberty? He's an actor, no more or no less. his attitude is do a good day's work and reap the benefits. Sure he makes errors, but it up to those who oppose him to convince him what those errors are and what their point of view is and maybe just maybe change his mind! Worked with Lincoln, worked with Wallace.
@@diddymuck And he's still a freakin racist.
You’re ignorant
I see a lot of people saying in the comments that this was racist, but I don't really see what they're talking about.
He is right!
He was right
What did he say that was racist? They DID have a better life here than they would’ve had anywhere else.
Are younsaying that during slavery that blacks had it "good" as they would have in other countries?
@@williebeamen2x So where blacks had better life than in US even in slavery years?
@@williebeamen2x
Yep!
Better then the Stone Age....
he said n word hard r
Yea after MY ancestors had to fight and get lynched, beat, hosed and burned just to have the same rights as other "Americans". Not like the shit was just given to us as he makes it seems.
Why are people acted surprised? This man was like 60 in the US when the Civil Rights was happening, what are y’all expecting?
Where was the lie??? Oh yeah…. There wasn’t one!!!
I love John Wayne
Seek help
@@floydd4779 I got news for you. Most every American loves John Wayne. He's one of the great patriots and icons of cinema
@@timburr4453 the man said black had it good in America 200 years ago. The guy is a racist clown. The only reason people loved him was because no one knew how he actually thought.
@@timburr4453Amen
of course most americana loves john wayne with what he think of course those people would agree glad that i'm european and can think right@@timburr4453
One things is being racist other thing is not having sympathy he just didn’t care
Best answer
I disagree, it's impossible to care about every person's struggle on the planet, someone will always have it worse, he cares, just no more than you or I do about who makes our phones or shoes. He's definitely not racist in my opinion, having a lack of interest for the plight of a certain group doesn't mean he has contempt for them.
Modern standards for racism are preposterous. There's no subtlety.
@@greghuffman3061 without racism sitting at the back of the bus wouldn't be cool, it would just be another seat.
oh god, please don't fall for this cultural Marxist fear mongering....... grievance industry nonsense!! Wake up!! this is all just a post-modern ploy designed to divide us. John Wayne was born in 1907!! how dare him not have the exact same values and ethics of people today?? It's all about "playing the victim". and trying to pit people against each other
"Cultural assimilation numbers are in decline - who do we blame?"
Didn't sound "Racist"...Is TRUTH racist?...The Native Americans had it Worse. ---Mitch
Imagine living without horses what a shitty life they got
The sad thing is he believed it.
I DO TOO.
John Wayne was also gay, he was caught with boys as young as 10 years old in his bed by his house maids. Truly sick beliefs this man had
@@bradfordrobertw soy boy
Cause its true.
@@bradfordrobertw ok, soy boy
Pls stop defending a racist because he is your youth idol. I know it’s hard, John Wayne made some very great movies but that doesn’t make him a nice racist or propagandist
Whats really hard to believe is someone thinks he made some very great movies...😒
He’s a legend shut up.
@@kevinconboy7387 so because of the fact that you are a great artist you can be the biggest asshole ever, that makes perfectly sense
@@kevinconboy7387 he’s a racist fuck him and his “legacy”
McQ was one of the best movies ever . . . ...
I see nothing wrong with his comment. He wasn't afraid to speak the truth.
No one alive even knows anyone that was ever alive. Long enough to have been a slave here.
What he has said is not that outrageous and to some extent true. It’s been said that when Ali went to Africa for the first time, he exclaimed, I’m so glad my great great great granddaddy got on that boat. 🤷🏻♂️
only 1% of Africa is bushman or impoverished. Stop the bs.
BS 💯
@@IROAMinc no, actually it's 100% true. He may have said it in a joking manor but he sure as hell meant it.
So that makes it right then? Bravo evil b!&ches😂
No he did not.
Liking John Wayne movies is different from liking John Wayne
depends which movies, much of them are white supremacist crap like the searchers. true grit though that's permissible.
Not really that's quite illogical
That's like reasoning that I like my master cause he has a great personality. He is still my master and JW was still a POS. He and Jimmy Stewart who where against the advancement of blacks in film.
How do you separate the two? Oh because the fictitious John Wayne was a fair person?
@@_Mr.D Do you not still like Michael Jacksons music? Is Bill Cosby not funny? What about Tupac? He was jailed for rape? What about HP Lovecraft? He was a racist and scared out of his wits of Jews? Mike Tyson? The list goes on?
The repliers seem confused, but I agree with you. John Wayne is a very entertaining actor and I love watching him in movies. But his real-life personality was pretty abhorrent, especially in moments like these.
How is anything that John Wayne said racist? Do you even know what the word means?
Not surprised to hear the Draft Dodger is also a Racist. I am amazed people still like him. Unfortunately there is an airport named after him in Orange County. We should rename it after Paul Newman, Jimmy Stewart, Carroll O'Connor, Elvis Presley, Rod Serling or any number of great soldiers who were great talents of that era and served our country.
This is so disturbing. 🤦🏼♀️
And yet many of the comments on hear express agreement. Sad
Why? What racist view did he express?
@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Young man it's 3:30am and even if it wasn't, it would take months to educate you on this subject that I have over 250 years of firsthand family experience to go off of.
So to try to help you to understand why what he said was so racist, it really would be so involved.
If you are in fact sincere, go online and type in, "How did John Wayne feel about minorities".
After doing that come back and tell me if you think he had any particular leanings.
And just one small point to think about for those that are naive. Typically for most high profile individuals that are racist, they are very discreet in what they let come out of their mouths. He is never gonna just come out and say how he felt! But somehow a racist persons true thinking oftentimes finds a way of slipping out.
@@_Mr.D I simply asked what was racist about what he said in this video. You’ve waffled a lot but not addressed that issue.
@@_Mr.D you adopt a patronising attitude “young man” (you have no idea of knowing whether I’m a man or how old I am) and then saying I need to be educated. I simply asked a question which was what Wayne says in THIS VIDEO that is racist? I’m not saying he is or isn’t. I’m just asking what it is that is explicitly racist?
You haven’t yet been able to produce an answer. I am happy to wait until you’ve had some sleep and rested your brain.
I never liked any of his movies anyways. All of his movies depicted the American Indian as oriental caucasians. To include Sacheen Little Feather, she's just as Lily white as John Wayne herself. Her protest at the Oscars was a political stunt based off the statements made by Marlon Brando. Mr. Brando was referring to the aboriginal indigenous peoples later termed African Americans by this government. The term Native American was established and founded by the United States government in order to usurp and steal this land from its original owners the American Indians and rewrite history. I'm an American Indian.
Lol okay indian
Why did you retweet that? - Eric Andre
BASED AND REDPILLED
The hell they did. Walk a mile in their shoes Wayne, I mean Morrison.
i would love to take a walk in 300 dollar nikes too! do i get free food housing medical and college for free as well?
To walk a mile in someone shoes means to see things from their perspective and experience. If you would spend a little more time using your brain and less time being obtuse and making ignorant remarks, you might have understood that.
When your ancestors have had to live as slaves, and you and your family has had to endure racial epithets, discrimination, segregation, police brutality, racial profiling, red-lining of minority neighborhoods, church bombings, lynchings, lack of economic and educational opportunities, voter suppression, and moronic remarks in a pathetic attempt to stereotype an entire race of people from halfwitted imbeciles, you would have a different perspective.
He spoke the truth. Most people don't understand that until about 150 years ago, and still today, the vast majority of the world's population is busy trying to survive till tomorrow. If you don't believe it, then go to some third world countries instead of trying to destroy this country.
There are anecdotes from colleagues and co-workers that show he wasn't a racist, but he does appear to have been out of touch with how blacks were treated in other parts of America. He was aware of the struggles in the south, so didn't it register?
Calling it a "tough break" was really cringe as well. Segregation and slavery are not "tough breaks."
Saying cringe is cringe but I digress
Yikes, i think that's what happens when you get your information from a friend rather than do your own research, because if he honestly knew what those people have been through then he would've known how bad he sounds.
I don't know what you mean or who you are talking about, but John Wayne was no racist. Look it up, the way that he helped these people, the charities he donated to. You people have nothing better to do than attack someone who has been dead for 40 plus years. Blacks aren't the only ones who have had a hard life, try reading about when the Irish starting coming to America in the 1800s.
The Irish are tougher than the blacks they never cry they get on with it 😂
@@irishninja2009 you sound more stupid than john wayne does
@@wildcatselite1 John Wayne didnt sound stupid. You do. John Wayne was right when he said the blacks have had a tough break and that they need to get on with their lives and stop using one time period in history constantly as a means of getting what they want. How many generations have to pay for what some people did 150 yrs ago? What is with you people? Get a life already. John Wayne was making a point. You dont see the Irish, the Puerto Ricans, the Germans, the Chnese, the Italians, the Indians crying "hardship" constantly, but thats all the liberal blacks ever seem to do. They get bleeding heart suckers like you people to advocate for them. John Wayne was simply saying theyve been through a lot sure, but now its time to bury the past and move on with your life. Make a life for yourself and your family. Get the things that you want through hard work, not because somebodys giving you a handout, not because you tell them that you deserve it. Stop trying to make people feel guilty for what happened to your ancestors. White people do not have to keep on paying for the cruelty that was shown to the blacks 150 yrs ago. Most of the blacks today that go around shooting their faces off, cant even trace their lineage back to the slaves. Most of them for the last 60 plus have been living the good life. They have chances for education, wealth, fame, nothing is held back from them if the prove themselves worthy of it. They cant just sit at home with their hands always out collecting welfare and not expect that people are going to be annoyed with them. They were not the slaves. The people to try and help would have been the people who used to be slaves, not these lazy, con artists, who insist that we pay them reparations. Reparations for what, sitting on their backsides all day?
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Love John Wayne
People can say what they want about him, call him whatever names and labels, but he wasn't wrong. His words still ring true to this day.
That's a reasonable view to have, and when he says they've had a 'tough break', I'm pretty sure he's talking about in the 20th century and not slavery times.
A "tough break" ? My god.
It was either being enslaved in America or enslaved in Africa by their own. Terrible choice, although the African slave masters were much more brutal than the whites in America...
If understatement is the worst thing he said here then he didn't look too bad here. Miles better than cliven bundy looked and that was like a decade ago
damn, that was racist af
Lolol but others think he was just being a nice guy. Lol
would it be if said today though? everyone on this country DOES have a better life here now than anywhere else whether its me (scots irish german) or a black person or an asian person or a spanish person.. well not the native americans and for that i do feel a tinge bad cause my ancestors actually had something to do with that
@@donnymoney4222 wow, this is also slightly and naively racist
@@ryanreviews8566 no its not! you cannot argue with his statement
No one gives a fuck.
Where's the racism that was promised in the title?
“They’ve had a better life here, their fathers and mothers, than they would’ve had any place else.”
Think about how wrong this statement is. Straight racist to his core.
The Duke's Playboy interview revealed who he really was his remarks about Native Americans and African Americans were so bad they had to rename a whole Airport that was named after him
But hes right.
@@TheSoball358 Are you 13 years old?
@@_Mr.D
Tell me how he was wrong.
Grow up, be a man face reality. That's right you can do it all by yourself.
@@_Mr.D did the poo4 baby black man get his wittle feewings hurt by a healthy dose or truth any black preach would tell your stupid ass on Sunday morning if you were man enough to listen or had iq enough to process
lol gotta love this comment section
seems less racist and more naive of the extent of their plight.
How the hell is this racist?? If he was talking on behalf of any other race besides whites you would agree. Everything he said was dead on.
All true. You tell 'em, Duke!
Weeeeeedogggeee!
I love how society has glorified celebrities so much that anything they say should be considered like it's in the Bible. It doesn't even sound racist.
You’re a fool lol
How is what John Wayne said racist. Racist is when you won't let all the people from central Africa or Asian illegally come in freely like south of the border. Most have to apply.
This isn't John Wayne. It's Marion Michael Morrison.
That’s merely a justification in the practice of slavery. “You would have been better off with slavery” doesn’t justify generational enslavement WITH NO RIGHTS
Slavery is the default for human kind . Africans still practice it
@@hefellump1 and? Instead of disproving him, you just pull a whataboutism
What’s saying “TheY dO It ToO!” Going to prove?
The fallacy he committed is the relative privation fallacy.
Relative Privation fallacy is irrelevant. What matters was if his statements have merit. They do. Other races, mostly whites, have been persecuted ever since by giving away jobs for a race that wasnt equipped to do the work, or had a much lower aptitude. Furthermore, the relative ability - or inability - of different racial capabilities is a scientific fact. Thus, relative privation is just a subterfuge to a more complicated issue.
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Why is his fallacious reasoning irrelevant? He could be 100% in accordance with the state of affairs and yet still reasoning fallaciously, Old John here ought have had better arguments.
Just bc it’s a comparison you disagree with, doesn’t make it the “relative privation fallacy”
@@treefellonya My racist view must be supported by science, otherwise it would mean they were developed in the 17th century by economic cynicism to serve a ruling class I will never be a part of and that second option is too much of a bummer to accept.
Segregation worked to be honest they just didn’t treat the segregation fairly. Black bathrooms and water fountains were in worse condition if they were in equal condition and blacks could build their own communities just like native Americans have done I think it could work. “OH SHEIT DAS RACISS SEGREGATION BAD.”
Misleading title
FACTS, WHEN I TOSS A DOG A BONE I DON'T CARE HOW IT TASTES
I came here after watching a Sacheen Little feather interview about John Wayne. RIP Sacheen Littlefeather
RIP fake native
Doesn’t sound all that racist to me. Most of what he said isn’t wrong. Amazing how people waited 50 years after his death to criticize him.
To me he will forever be a racist draft dogger who tried to attack a Native American woman at an award show. Also how are people who were lynched daily and constantly faced with violence before civil rights were enacted supposed to find their way in this country?
Exactly. Im black american and me and my dad and grandad were able to live in a big free land,eat great foods,be americans, fuck different women of different races, buy a beer,and generally people are friendly and if we make the effort everyone is. If we lived in shithole countries like uganda,nigeria and somalia our life would be pretty bas. John Wayne r.i.p
Whats the difference between human rights and civil rights? 🤔
No, John Wayne isn’t racist IAM
He reminds med very much of my father in his late years. He to was an alcoholic and drank himself to death.
I'm sorry for your loss, but good.
@@Badpoison1 I dont understand what you mean by "but good"?
@@tiprunner A dead racist is a good racist?
Yeah and my leftist cousin died in a car accident while drinking. Doesn't mean that was associated with her political views.
@@fktheNCR you are looking for conflict, where there is non to be found. I never made that link in my comment.
What he said you can apply to any ethnic group as well - Italian, Irish, German.
I think it pretty sad for the poster of this video to use it in this way. Pathetic really.
@JH - Any person of the past, viewed by today’s ridiculous standards, would be a racist and bigot to you. A little sanctimonious and self-serving primate you are - one that exists to tear down anything that doesn’t fit in with your perfect sensibilities. Life is filled context and nuance. You’ll never amount to anything so simply try tear down those that have contributed. Life’s a zero-sum game for a character like you. The irony is you project your racism and bigotry thinking you are so moral. I’ll take imperfect people you call names over someone like you anyway. I’m pretty certain you’re a hot mess.
@JH - Think you were triggered first - ‘JW is a racist bigot’ blah blah. 😩😩😩
Lol
Too bad you couldn’t go back in time and tell him off since you’re such a tough guy. 🤜🤕
@JH That child phrase could be used on yourself, or myself now. Snowflake, triggered are word's for puppets.
What are you even talking about dude
@JH yes do you actually know the numbers of those ethnicities that were slaves? Far more than blacks and that’s something you won’t learn in history class. They conveniently skip over that portion of our nation’s history and prey on idiots like you.
Ahhh white quilt was a thing then too lol
Never been a John Wayne fan, but he died 40 years before this video was posted. So I don't understand the point of posting it. To prove people had views many years ago we find shocking now?
To prove these views still exist
@@lewisflowers5757 how does it prove that? I don't follow that logic.
How was he racist? I saw nothing racist here.
He said n-word hard r
Imagine watching someone say that black Americans should be happy they are in America during the time of Jim Crow and Segregation because it could be worse elsewhere and concluding there is nothing racist. Then imagine getting 7 people to agree with that.
Only in America
It sure is allot of buts and what ifs from the Duke! If he felt that way why did he do the I love Lucy show when she was married to a hispanic!
Because he got paid well. 🙄
John Wayne is a legend. Honesty is racist? He said the truth you buttercups. Or do you not know how they were treated by their own people???
this reminds me of the argument robert e lee had on slavery, that they were better off slaves in america than living in africa
All they wanted was equality; nothing more, nothing less. If you can't give them that, then you're not giving them enough. It's as simple as that.
How sad I thought he was an understanding man.
do you have to re-watch the video??
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding John Wayne here. He’s saying that they were treated worse in other countries (many countries still treat them poorly). I disagree and think we should feel bad, however he does have a point. They were selling each other as slaves and from what I understand they still do. He said they should have rights but it’s not like they would have been treated better elsewhere.
He speaks the truth!
it's like he knows no history or has never read the constitution
Do you know who enlaved the american blacks? It was black african slavers, whites just bought them, we never went to the jungle with a net. And guess what, whites are the only race till this day that have abolished slavery.
How true is it that they had better lives in America than they would've otherwise? I'm now interested in looking at sources that discuss whether this is correct.
Uhhhh in Brazil most of them would've died, in Arabia the men would've been castrated etc.
@@finnicpatriot6399 Would you say this representative of the rest of the world, or did you particularly try to pull up bad examples? I'm still open to accept the theory, but your supporting examples just don't tell me much. Although... Maybe if people simply fail to give examples of better living conditions than the US, then I can slowly start to accept that as evidence. :)
@@rubenpartono Caribbean sugar plantations had much more arduous conditions as well. And what do you mean by rest of the world? We're talking about African slavery, correct? When we say "them" we specifically mean people who'd already been enslaved by a more powerful African kingdom or tribe. From there you could either remain enslaved in Africa (as most did) or become part of the surplus that was shipped elsewhere. Generally speaking treatment of slaves shifted from place to place and culture to culture, but generally if you were an African slave shipped elsewhere during this time period, North-America was probably the least terrible out of all the horrendous options. Horrendous nonetheless, but higher in survivability than the aforementioned options.
@@finnicpatriot6399 I see, thanks this is way more convincing. I think what especially made it click for me is that the slaves, if not sent to the US, will still be slaves elsewhere.
@@rubenpartono And motherfuckers that say they too black
Put ’em overseas, they be begging to come back
- Ice Cube, The N*gga You Love to Hate
I hope Americans will stop thinking that way some day
Tough Break John...
John Wayne didn’t say anything wrong. Greatest actor who ever lived and all his haters will fade away and be forgotten
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Why are we judging him now? He’s been deceased for 43 years. His opinions don’t matter anymore. I don’t see the purpose of this.
It's called history, that is why we are talking about John Wayne. People like John Wayne helped create the world we live in today. A world of racial bigotry which causes human suffering and death. John Wayne supported and loved all the U.S. wars but never fought in any of them, and neither did his children. Wayne was not a man of peace and empathy when it came to war. Wayne hated the people like John Lennon who promoted peace and empathy.
@@chuckfrost5624 Lmao ok. Keep talking about a long dead celebrity like it’s normal.
@@theanalogkid3763 WE talk about Abraham Lincoln or Elvis Presley from a history perspective, so then why can't we talk about. John Wayne. If you study history you just might learn something.
@@chuckfrost5624 I’m a history buff for your information. The fact that you care so much about one dead guy’s opinions is sad.
@@theanalogkid3763 AnalogKid, the fact that you Don't care makes you a pathetic human being. You are a history buff of mainstream history. Growing up in a white bread community, I realize educating white people or deprogramming white people is not easy.
Yup this guy has a collection of very white sheets…maybe some reds
dearie me ... the duke .....of bigotry
Comments say a whole lot about the World we're still living in today.
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It's definitely worrying
Keep thinking you're a victim buddy it'll get you real far in life. Our country is the farthest thing from racist. If you even say a single thing against blacks or gays today your life is destroyed but you sure as hell can shit on whites all day long and nothing will happen to you. Keep believing the lies.....
Yeah, comments should say that blacks are the top race, they are the kindest, most intelligent, and caring of all peoples on this evil Earth.
Your title about being "racist" is the main problem here. He's speaking the truth. You don't want to hear the truth, so you lable somebody racist or any other word you people use.
I’m not racist I own 6 black tires and a colored TV
Maybe not, but ignorance is certainly on your plate.
@@gdavis5111 Go hug your foster mom.