Dude should have said, look we put all our breakfast foods back in storage and changed the fryer temperature and many other things for the lunch menu. It would be asinine to ask for us to change it all back so you can have your egg McMuffin.” A reasonable guy would understand
And whilst many people think that he is cold, callous and deranged, instead, it seems to me more like a snowball effect. When you have that tunnel vision, and things progressively get worse. At this moment, he is able to see the irony, and whilst karma might seem excessive, he probably assumes the old guy should live with the consequences of his actions… And who should help the old guy because nobody is helping him.
he wasnt the bad guy originally.. they rewrote him to be an abusive dad because the studio thought if he was shown as a pure anti hero. white men might get ideas about standing up for themselves.. ( bu bu but we will have copy cat crime! cuz thats a white thing ive never really seen but whatever)
@@mcg3334 His last words, after being shot by the cop, were "I would have got you." And he was right. The cop has water on his shirt. That made his ending even more sad (I can't remember if he had a real gun or not, and chose not to use it).
"I'm the bad guy? I did everything they told me to." His feelings of abandonment & betrayal are so heartbreaking. It's as if your own life stared you in the face and said, "No, you weren't good enough."
abandonment is betrayal...in this case, he trusted a society that exploited him and lied to him and threw him away. Betrayal requires trust. You really can't feel abandoned without trust and being given false expectations. Betrayal of course has darker connotations of active back-stabbing rather than passive left-to-die vibes, but they are about the same. Unfortunately, I know a little about both. You could say, for instance, 'my wife betrayed me and abandoned me for another', but the act of screwing Tom from work doesn't change. The main semantic difference is 'betrayal' usually connotes something more personal...but you could say Bill was either abandoned or betrayed by the society he served, both work
My uncle found out that his tax dollars were solely going to a welfare queen who collected five different checks due to having five kids from five men.
Falling Down is the most genuinely underrated and important movie of the 90’s. It holds a mirror up to society and shows that we’re all just one bad day away from snapping.
And keep in mind, this was set in *90's* LA. Don't get me wrong, LA in the 90's was pretty damn bad... but then Newsome and the Democrats looked back at California's situation in the 90's and were like "Hold my beer". Gavin, the shit state of California in the 90's is NOT a god damn challenge!
Had pretty shitty days, weeks, months and entire years. Haven't snapped yet. Should I snap? Should I be preparing myself for a possible snapping? Very bad mirror.
@Chris Williams wish I was in that class with you. I would troll so hard about how the white man took everything from my middle eastern family. My fathers ppl r from the Caucasus mountains by the way would be the twist at end. I would crush that class.
Fun fact: Supposedly, Kirk Douglas (the father of the main actor, for the ~1% that don't know), when asked about what he thought was his Son's finest performance, cited Falling Down as his choice.
Nah there's still a lot of people like us out there who truly appreciate great story telling and acting this. Well never forget. Also Robert Duvall turned in pretty great performance as well
@@lukewalken1316 no I remembered when this came out and there was no drama of that kind around it. As matter of fact it was praised by critics and fans alike. Now ofcourse nowadays it would be torn apart by the sjws and called every bs thing they can come up with like racist, sexist, and probably right wing crap for incels. F#$k sjw Hollywood
I will never forget hearing that line for the first time: “I’m the bad guy? How did that happen...?” The way Douglas delivers it is, as you said, absolutely heartbreaking, because he’s not being sarcastic or defensive...he’s really asking the question in earnest, though he might not expect an actual answer.
And who amongst us hasn't felt that way at some time in their lives. We follow the rules of society every day, even to our detriment and yet we still get crapped on from a great height while those who flout those same rules seem to be life's winners. It's no wonder so many of us hate this world and can't wait to leave it.
@@lezlezman1843 Who hasn't felt that way in their lives at some point? Dude! I feel that way NOW! When it feels like the world takes a daily dump on you and you alone, you wish The Purge was a real event.
Nobody could have done this role like Michael Douglas. He brings such a relatable presence to a character you'd otherwise never want to characterize yourself with.
I think Robin Williams definitely could've pulled it off just as well if not better but other than him I don't think there's any else that could've done it
@@rc7074 Hanks, maybe. Jackman? Nah, he's too much the tough, don't-mess-with-me 'werewolf' guy. The role needs an average everyman, somebody you wouldn't for a second think of as a dangerous person, when you're standing next to them in a checkout line.
Scenes like this start to resonate more as you get older, life hasn't destroyed you yet. As a child, you dream of being the hero. But as you get older, the villains start making more sense. Jim Carrey - Batman Forever - Edward Nygma
I remember (being old that is) the reviews of this movie when it came out. One of them sounded like this. "Oh dear, another movie about how hard it is to be a white man today." I thought that was really unkind, not even trying to look at the films good qualities, and what it was trying to say. Little did I know such reviews would be a sign of things to come.
HAASSSSS! You went to far man, there’s good and bad on either sides of everything. I agree that by a default the white straight male has the odds stacked against us nowadays but we aren’t better than anyone. We all are equal. Some people don’t want us to be seen as such and would rather supremacy (ex. KKK, 3rd wave feminist). It’s up to the normal people everywhere to not let the crazies on both sides try to sway us.
No hot girls wearing next to nothing No nudity No special effects No tough guy running around like Rambo Just a great story, great characters and brilliantly acted...oh, and a shit ton of people wishing they did the same thing in life
Englandsbestlover that was the controversy when this was first released. People found him an heroic character, instead of a man on his way to murder his wife and daughter
@@geoffrogerson9937 because he never was on his way to murder his family, he wanted to visit his daughter on her birthday after being blocked from seeing her for a long while, he was the HERO of the movie, nothing you can say changes that.
@@bobcobb3654 Huh? He remembered that guy all throughout the movie. When he met the caretaker? "They called me not economically viable". When facing Prendergast? "I did everything they told me to!". He couldn't forget that guy, because he WAS that guy. Idk, how else you could understand this scene? As in he should have gone to the police and got the other guy out of jail?
@@TrykusMykus as in the black guy with a legitimate gripe gets arrested and hauled off while the white guy who is far more dangerous gets to go on about his bullet spraying spouse threatening day. Scene was more about how superficial LA cops in the 90s were about real threats.
@@bobcobb3654 I won't try to convince you otherwise (I have a feeling it would be a futile exercise), but how I understood that scene was to show that Bill felt for that guy and understood what he went through. If you look at it, Bill is the only one who pays attention to him - why? Because he understands him. And the black guy with (the same as Bill) legitimate gripe gets arrested for trying to manifest legally, showcasing how helpless people like *The black guy* or Bill really are. I mean that's what the "Don't forget me" exchange was supposed to represent, the two guys in a similar situation met and exchanged a certain kind of understanding. Otherwise, that scene is completely pointless in the scope of the movie.
@@TrykusMykus except there is no depth to Bill. Why was he even in traffic that day? Why did he need change for the phone? His whole day’s quest was to get to his ex-wife’s house uninvited, restraining order be damned. He’s not an Everyman being pushed by the system. He’s a bitter divorcee violently lashing out.
@Tony Thank you Tony, you are absolutely right. The only thing one ca do is to stay away from people as much as possible and recharge your energy in nature.
@Tony Try to break away from as many of the negative people as possible. And as cliched as it sounds, every single day you wake up is another chance to make your own life better.
@@Starcraftgamer97 I'm afraid of snapping one day. Like my father did to me a few times recently. I don't want to hurt anyone, but I don't want to scare anyone even more.
Treat Joe Nobody like he's a disposable drone, deprive his every human interaction of any kindness, tell him his looming rage is just a symptom of his own pathetic moral failings, then act shocked and appalled when he draws a gun on a fast food clerk over something that "wasn't even a big deal."
It is interesting cause everyone gets and relates to that yet the movie reveals he was an abusive prick to his loved ones etc and became the bad guy. It is a lot to take in when trying to process how to feel about it.
@@ArkaynAdrian It is tragic and scary how many victims of suicide and abuse are themselves abusive bullies. Everyone sees themselves as the "good guy." While the "I'm the bad guy" line makes perfect sense thematically, it seems as though it is a bit too on-the-nose in the context of the movie. I don't know if Douglass' character ever started getting a hero complex from his violent spree, or if he had just come unglued and gotten caught up in it. At that point, a person isn't really thinking about morality. Heck, most spree killers know they're being bad and have become so far-gone that they've fully embraced it.
This is what's been missing with art lately. Art is prophetic and stands the test of time. All the trash that we've seen lately is just assembly line nonsense that's ready for the trash the instant it's consumed.
There's a lot of people who have been taught to think they're William lashing out at everything they can hurt right now. The very system that coos sweet lies about helping them is also the system telling them to riot and burn their own livelihoods, because cities that suffer riots that bad almost never recover.
Back in the late 90's, my high school psychology teacher showed this movie in his class. The story stuck with me, and years later I thanked him for introducing this movie to us. Falling Down is by far one of the best movies I've ever seen, and a solid testament to Michael Douglas's superb acting abilities.
Agreed. It's practically prophetic. I enjoyed the '90s. They were pretty good to me. No where near as horrible as the movie portrays. It wasn't until after 9/11, when the whole world lost it's collective goddamn mind, that I lost all faith in humanity.
@@joelhassig6099 Agreed I think the movie was before its time, perhaps the makers could sense the shit coming and thought making this film was a matter of urgency to positively affect audiences.
@@chatteyj totally agree with both of you. But I'm wondering where are these writers/producers and directors that they dont come up and continue making such powerful thought provoking movies.
This movie predicted the demographic changes and what they would bring as time dragged on. Diversity breeds nothing but tension and conflict and Falling Down portrays that in many ways. In the convenience store, Bill says "I'm rolling back prices to 1965." I believe he landed on that date because the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed then. From the Hispanic gangs to the neo Nazi, everything is covered and it's quite a good commentary on the subject.
Same. My hometown has this long road that had construction workers on it working all day for over 3 years and it took them 2 years just to get halfway done. It’s such bullshit.
This is why you pay construction upfront and a little bit more.. Because if they get paid by duration they're gonna fucking stretch that shit out years!
"I've reached the point of no return." "Do you know what that is?" "It's when going back to what you were is a longer journey than continuing to what you are going becoming." Normally, a moving pointing out 'this is when the hero becomes the villain', would irate me, but it was SO good & powerful that I don't care! State the obvious, I'm good with it.
It was thematic. He was probably closer to his destination than his starting point, but also he had crossed the line from violent assault to actual homicide (taking a life).
@@joelellis7035 You make it sound like he was a murderer when in actuality he just acted in self defense. And the old fart having a heart attack was his own fault.
@@heroesytumbas you're confusing scenes. Shark Dentures was referring to the lines that the main character said while still in the army surplus store. This is just after he had killed the owner of the store.
A significant item is that at the end, Bill pulls a water pistol instead one of his many firearms. He also gets Prendergast with the water pistol and they both know it. Regardless of how bad Bill got, at the end he is still a good man
Michael Douglas once said this was his favourite character to play. at the time the media gave time to people who claimed this film was racist and not entertainment .Douglas and Duval were both aamazing in this film. now am off to get a whammy burger . Dfens Dfens
The most underrated film of all time. I Remember seeing this as a kid and realizing how special it was especially as a kid growing up in Los Angeles. It made me realize I wasn't alone in feeling how dead this city is internally
Do us a all a favor and look up the word " underrated " Here's a tip: if you gave nothing approaching intelligent to type then don't type anything. You Half- wit.
“This stage of the movie plays out like a video game. Bill’s taking on tougher and tougher opponents, upgrading his weapons as he goes.” It’s lines like this that I watch these reviews for.
I see him as an honest man who was broken beyond repair, He was very much like Marvin Heemeyer, the guy who created the Killdozer, a home made tank. Marvin said in tapes about why he did what he did, and one line sticks out for me for both Falling Down and what he did. "Sometimes reasonable men are forced to do unreasonable things."
Dunno know this sounds to admit it, but the Killdozer story is fuckin unreal. Nice to see someone who knows it, www.damninteresting.com/the-wrath-of-the-killdozer/
My cousin plays Michael Douglas' daughter in this movie. I remember seeing the movie as a kid and not understanding how someone could snap like that, now I'm older, wiser, and living through the hell that is 2020.
Regardless of the year, the older you get, the more you can relate to this film. Unless you're one of the lucky few whose life goes without any major hitches.
You can’t ignore the feelings of emasculation these two men have. Prendergast’s wife is a gone-to-seed harridan, warped by grief, who talks down to him when he doesn’t pander to her childish behaviour. Bill’s wife is a touch hysterical, determined to assert her dominance over the failed relationship by cutting him out of his child’s life. Both men have lost control. I feel for them. Great film.
Remember we do get one scene when Bill is watching home movies there is a scene that hints that he was in fact a shit father and husband. I'm not ready to just throw his wife under the bus as some harlot trying to ruin his life when he doesn't deserve it.
@@tsdobbi no, I get that, but considering how crazy his mom is I’m not surprised. There’s clearly mental health issues there. And the fact that Prendergast is also dealing with crazy at home shows just how often this can affect families of all kinds. But his wife is hardly understanding by keeping his daughter from him - there’s clearly a lot of love between him and that little girl.
well, he didn't draw a gun, it was a plastic toy gun, which means he didn't want to kill the detective, he wanted to be killed. thats very important to the character and the story. it was never his intention to hurt anyone initially.. This is one of the best movies I have ever seen by the way. Fantastic review!
Yep and it's important to remember that his wife was guilty of overstating the danger he posed to her and his little girl thus depriving him of the one thing that kept him together.
We are all the bad guy from someone´s perspective, and it is not necessarily too bad of a thing since life keeps going and it becomes a thing of the past. I should know, i do take pride on most of the instances because that ment i stood for what was right (from my perspective), and in the other cases it is irrelevant because it is not really me they hate but rather the uniform, and they would just have been angry with one of my colleagues if it were not me.
The moment you stand up you're the bad guy. Conform. Obey. Or else we'll kill you for daring to step out of line. And everybody will hate you for trying to color outside the lines.
The answer is: NO, you're not the bad guy. You're a man in the mold of the founding fathers. You've had enough, you're fighting back, and you'll either recreate things in your image or have the satisfaction of knowing you didn't just take it.
His heart - breakingly poignant, almost bitter-sweet request of "I'm going home, clear a path for me, I just want to go home" is one of the most memorable aspects of this film for me. A working man, or just any man, who's now a shell of his former self, who has to literally beg and demand to be left alone in peace from a society hell - bent on doing everything it can to prevent that is both deeply irrevocable and way too relatable. Only 1 day away from being him, only 1.
This movie was a harbinger for what was to come, like a warning shot fired over the bow. Even back then, all my PC friends trashed it, just from its trailer. "White Guy, oh boo-hoo." I saw it because I had the good fortune to have gone to high school with the writer, Ebbe Roe Smith, so I hoped it was good. It shocked me how good it was. And it was a big movie at the time. It was on the cover of either Time or Newsweek, as a comprehensive look at what was happening to a whole huge section of the populace. Thank you for highlighting that unbearably moving line, "I'm the bad guy...?" Michael Douglas looked exactly like my dad did most of his life: same haircut, same abiding by the rules, same job It was a heartbreaking movie, and it deserves to be remembered and rewatched.
I seem to recall similarly dismissive responses from many critics. This and movies like Joker and Fight Club show the problem in following critical consensus. Too many critics judge the topic - or rather, their interpretation of the topic - rather than the film itself. In other cases, like Kids and American Beauty, an edgy topic rendered with good-looking cinematography gets the critics falling all over themselves with praise when there isn't really that much underneath the surface.
@@calmbbaer lol who gives a sh!t about the critics? They're efforts at movie making generally went down in flames, which is the reason they became critics in the first place. The measure of a movie is how it connects with its audience and spins a compelling and engaging story, with believable and relatable characters - and by that measure, Falling Down did a great job. Also had a fair bit of prophecy.
@@calmbbaer I was sent to a lock down boarding school in 2003 that would assign every dozen or so new "students" to peer groups. Every couple months each peer group progresses through the program by (forcibly) attending what they called "lifesteps". These were held in an octagonal shaped room with no windows or clocks so we never knew what time it was. We were deprived sleep and food for hours on end. Lifesteps would last almost three days. The staff tasked to operate the lifesteps would implement certain elements of a system for psychological manipulation referred to as monarch mind control. In the second lifestep named "forever young" consisted of the staff berating and verbally abusing the kids. A few hours in and a few hours before the yelling sessions, we were told to watch a few movies and write a full page report on each one. (a full page meant side to side, past either margin. Top to bottom, also past each margin. Front AND back. Past EVERY margin) we watched Crash, Life as a House, Once We're Warriors and Kids. I'll never forget being noticeably shocked while actively attempting to recognize it as cinema and an interpretation of life. Kids was pretty shocking to me. I could always see how it can be seen as great art but it definitely isn't something that should be revered as magnificent. Long story short; Falling Down is obviously a product of Hollywood but it really is phenomenal. Glad I found it while my brain was still developing🤙🏻
"They see a white man in a shirt and tie and take him for an easy mark." This hit home, hard. I work at a local bakery in the downtown section of Bemidji, MN, overnight 1AM to whenever the work is done. After an attempted carjacking outside of work in the parking lot in 2018, I now openly carry a handgun into work, and my boss is okay with it. Am I a badass? Far from it. I just want to get home after work to see my two kids again.
Got lost on the youtube, decided to post an update. Walked out of said job a little over a month ago, the lead cook went with me. I now work the day shift at another J.O.B, outside of Bemidji, less money, more hours. Am extremely tired when I get home. Yet, strangely, the money is still the same. I no longer feel scared for my safety and no longer need to carry a firearm into the work place, due to safety protocols and not being inside of Bemidji in the middle of the night. I plan on moving this Spring, back to the country. I don't plan on returning to Bemidji, ever. My life and those of my family are going to change for the better. Thanks for the likes, whomever you were, God bless you and I hope you live well.
@@ultimatemixmeister5127 I’m here in Stillwater and would never have guessed what you faced in Bemidji. I’m glad you’re going somewhere you feel better about. Many times, living in the country means less expenses so you can make less money and still be happy and also financially ok. Good luck on your journey and I wish you the best.
No, they would write tons of false misinformed blog posts about how horrible the movie is before they've even seen the film...you know like what they did to the recent Joker movie.
This is the single most politically and culturally relevant movie today. And it was released way back in the 90's. This movie was way ahead of its time.
I would imagine so If we all Exploded like that At ounce The weak and Spineless Wouldn't have a safe place anywhere. Honestly it would make the purge look like a Picnic
Are you guys getting triggered by something that hasn't happened? Also, I've seen a few iffy articles about Joker, but mainly I've seen extremely positive, film of the year type reviews. Falling Down rocks, and could absolutely get made today.
One of the greatest films ever made. Period. He’s not a hero, he’s not a villain, he’s just a man. We may be a dying/unwanted breed, but like drinker said, discard us at your peril... It genuinely terrifying how much more relevant this film is right now, as compared to when it was released. There’s a LOT of us Bill’s out there...
It was one of the first examples of the anti-hero protagonist that would come to define the 90s and 00s. Nowadays good and evil have to be spelled out in simple letters as if the audience were 5 year olds, and the anti-hero has become ‘edgelord’.
Michael Douglas: An actor not a character. Falling Down: Only-vaguely-similar to a freeroam rampage in Grand Theft Auto, which is also not a character.
@@damienmb88 Wow. Your life must really sucked when you have to correct someone. NO SHIT! Get a sense of humor. Better yet, GET THE FUCK OFF MY COMMENT SECTION!
Saw the Drinker recommends "Falling Down" in my feed. Did not watch the recommends. Proceeded to watch the movie, then returned to this video. What a fantastic recommendation!
One of the things missed by this review is the conversation between William's Ex-wife and the police officer sent to check on her. The officer asks what the nature of William's abuse was, and she doesn't have an answer, just a vague explanation that she thought he was capable of violence, but also that he had never perpetrated any towards her or their daughter. You see, Bill was capable of violence after all, but like those gangsters, his wife forced his hand when she separated him from his daughter. One has to ask whether he would have ever snapped if he hadn't been betrayed and abandoned by the family he clearly loved.
@@bluefish4999 Yes, nobody should have to spend their life with an arsehole, whether they are violent or not. However, nobody should be kept from their children unless that child is under threat from violence. So divorce = 👍and not being able to see the kid = 👎
@@FalloutBreakbeat the problem about that scene is that it's the same hint that his wife gave to the policemen: his husband could be irritable, or nervous, but he never was really violent or beaten her even once. It's a way to put doubt in our minds in two ways: could he be violent with his family or was he just having a bad day?
"And now you're gonna die wearing that stupid little hat - how does it feel?" Probably my favorite line in all of cinema, because it's deceptively simple. On the surface it's just a clever quip that Bill manages to get out as he's lauding his victory over the golfer. On a deeper level, however, it is brilliantly illuminating as to how where Bill's head is at in the moment. A normal person would probably at least feel guilty for causing this man's death, but Bill is so overwhelmed by his need for revenge against the cruel world around him that he instead finds it comical. It shows that Bill is completely lost to his madness already but that he's not yet gripped that he is in the exact same position. Like the golfer, lying there dying as a result of his own hubris and anger, Bill has already effectively ended his own life at this point with the several violent outbursts he's had. He is simply living on borrowed time, yet in the moment he is so satisfied that he's won this encounter he can't see the forest for the trees and only thinks how comically ironic it is that the man's arrogance has effectively been his own end.
@@johnjamele Eh, not quite. Mr. Plinkett is a serial killer who reviews awful movies. The Critical Drinker is a drunk that reviews awful movies... and who is less "Oh damn man... that joke is GROSS, what is WRONG with you?!" than Mr. Plinkett. Also... he's good at reviewing, so he gets some leeway.
The "I'm the bad guy" bit stuck in my head when I watched this as a kid and then when I went back as an adult and saw it again the whole scene struck hard.
I didn't appreciate this movie at the time of its release. I just saw it as another semi-decent, yet forgettable action popcorn-type film. It wasn't until decades later, that I understood the deep social commentary it was making and saw it for the art that it truly was. The underpinnings about how the system is structured by government, corporations, and citizen parasites who keep the common man down. They can abuse the common man in whatever way they desire, but when the common man bites back in the same way, he gets labeled as the bad guy, terrorist, and misfit. His demise means little, and the system continues to churn on after he's gone.
"I'm the bad guy?" "Yeah." "How did that happen?" My question is how the hell did Joel Schumacher manage to make this film so amazing and yet make Batman and Robin such sh!t?
As someone who has lived in Southern California for 32 years, I can report that Falling Down is the most realistic depiction of Los Angeles ever put to film.
"Falling Down" is one of those movies that really changes as you yourself get older... if you watch it as a teen, you see a straight-up action film, in your twenties, you cheer on the anti-hero of Bill... you get into your thirties and forties? The movie is so much deeper...
I don't know about you, but I watched this when I was about 17 and it's one of the few movies that straight up made me cry When he watches those tapes, straight up a heartbreaking scene
I dunno. I'm the age of the protagonist in this movie, and all I see is a cartoon of an entitled complainer. I don't see much nuance in this film at all. Better people than this guy have had to deal with their dignity being stripped away in worse ways than a bad divorce and a job loss, and they do it without wasting a bunch of people. The best you can do is learn to bounce back.
“This is the guy who was told if he followed the rules and did what he was told, that everything would be alright.” In other words, he’s me. And millions of others like me.
You forget the part where he has anger issues, before his lost the job. In the home video you could see how shitty person he was. If anything, I would say that the movie is about not turning attention to your own or others mental health. That stress builds up, and can do bad things to average people. There were refrences to someone (probably his dad) being in the marines, maybe he had a tough childhood, his dad treated him bad, because he had PTSD.
@@Riprie So do you think society at large plays no role whatsoever in the mental development of the people within it? It wasn't his Marine dad that pushed him over the edge.
One of my most favourite films. Even as a kid I fully understood that he was deeply depressed and having a breakdown. "Their aim is about as accurate as a post-sex piss" brilliant!!
All they'd have to do is have him wear a MAGA hat the whole time and the movie would be fine. It'd be like "see i told you those trump supporters are crazy"
What are you talking about? They would love a movie about a white conservative going berserk. They could even ad more leftist propaganda than the original already has... They hate the joker because is mostly apolitical.
@@stavrosmayakofsky1915 I'd argue he's intentionally neither. He's a dedicated man; dedicated to his family, to his job, and they've both been taken from him; that's the heart of what makes D FENS what he was and what he becomes. None of that requires any particular political position or identity.
@@vcdonovan5943 Its not. Oh its no where nearly incendiary as media pretended its was but its violence is less sanitized as the violence in Falling Down. And that's intentional with Joker you're not supposed to entirely sympathize with him just understand how a broken man who never really had a chance just stopped giving a shit about even trying to do good in a world that never gave a shit about him. Falling Down is about a man lashing out at a system he once believed in that discarded him and him trying get back what that system once promised him by any means.
Falling Down... what a movie. What a movie. I watched it first as a teenager and now that I'm in my mid-30s I understand it even more than I could have ever imagined.
VC Donovan joker is nothing like this. :))) not to say joker isn’t amazing in its own right. But due to this generic cis white male this WOULD NOT be made. Alongside heavy controversially racial topics.
This could be the live action version of Grand Theft Auto, but it really plays out Like Predator 2. A lone wolf blasting his way thru LA during a heat wave only to be taken out by a single cop at the end.
I love how this movie does a wonderful job of getting you to sympathize with this man because he’s mad about the same things you are but also shows what this anger will do to you.
This film is textbook how you write a proper protagonist and antagonist/antihero. Understand why they do it, but also it's clear why they have to be stopped, and who the good guy really is. Movies aren't capable of that anymore because immoral nihilists are creating them.
I wonder if anyone else noticed the foreshadowing in Michael Douglas seeing a bumper sticker that says "He died for our sins." in his character's introduction.
Remember when movies were good and we could actually identify with the struggles being portrayed because the characters had depth and were dealt with as real people as opposed to being just a means of pushing a political message? Pepperridge farms remembers.
Once you realized that most all of what your parents, teachers, the media, the government, Walt Disney... have told you about how the world works, and your place in it, are damnable, utter lies. The truth is hard, man. But it sets you free.
I never lied to a fish..... the fish come up to the glass and I say "it's nice to see you but you realize you ain't never getting out of there right?" they just swim away content the fish don't care, all their needs are attended to......but I won't lie to em..... now chickens.....don't ya just wanna choke em?? ooh wait.....erm..... actually that's a joke, chickens are decent people ruclips.net/video/zuwvv8NJmbY/видео.html
This film has long been one of my favourites. I first watched it as a teenager for the rampage aspect, but then as I got older understood the tones and commentary a lot more. It's an underrated classic.
I grew up in L.A in the 1990s so this great movie is extra special. I remember the heat, the smog, the gangs, the traffic. We all wanted to go on a rampage. Classic movie.
I've never been a huge fan of MD but I've always adored this film, and would def say this is his best role. When I watch it I always see the character, not the actor.
This was probably the first... errr... let's say "complex" movie I've ever watched. I was just a teenager, maybe 15 or 16 at most. I rented it on VHS thinking it was an action movie. It caught me _totally_ off guard, and I _loved_ it.
Bedrock solid, Emmet. One of those rare gems from Hollywood where everything on every level is nailed....even the colour timing / grading is saying "It's hot n sticky".
Filmmakers today should study this film and take note of its simplicity. No bloated casts or convoluted, meandering storylines. It is, as you said, damn-near perfect in its execution.
Believe it or not but this film was my inspiration. I have had watched the first half of it on TV in the 90s. After about 10 years I have reached a breaking point similar to that of Bill in Falling Down. Pure rage and madness. The best couple weeks of my life. Fortunately, I have returned to the society and lived to watch the whole film to the end.
Either way, it's such reckless endangerment that he doesn't deserve to be talked about like he wasn't willing to hurt random strangers. It's a piece of military grade weaponry that he obviously knows very little about, and he's firing it out in the street in a crowd. He doesn't know that it's just going to hit equipment and not hurt anybody. He doesn't even know how to fire it. For all he knows, even if does just hit equipment, the equipment could explode and kill the whole crowd.
why doesn't anyone "pen" things in?? who cares if things change and you have to scratch the day and time out 10X you penned it in so you are doing it even if it's the day of the apocalypse...... [movie starts, first lines spoken] [all hell breaks loose and you along with everyone die instantly] ---- in an alternate reality you penciled it in, wait is this the alternate reality, the apocalypse reality or the original reality?? I forget, time paradoxes you see.....always have issues
Pencils are famously mutable, erasers are part of the reason pencils exist. They write, but easily mutable. Penmanship has more of an air of permanency.
When i first heard of Joker, the first movie that came to mind was Falling Down, even if most people were only talking about Taxi Driver. Falling Down was a good movie, probably my favorite Michael Douglas movie, watched it countless times on tv during the 90's, brings nice memories.
People like Bill, that want society to remember them, to remember his outcry for “justice for the common man”, considering how bad society treated him, is so people remember how bad it feels to be beaten down by everyone. To be heard and seen. Instead of being another cog in everyday life, to be fired, or unfairly treated by his family that don’t understand his troubles, or don’t care to. The Detective, still choosing to help people as law enforcement, tells me: don’t remember these murderers and down trodden average people gone mad for the bad things they’ve done. Learn what brought them to that breaking point to prevent it from happening again. Bill’s rampage was just symptom of the stresses of everyday life and problems in the world that was the virus. The only way to stop said virus of anger and injustice against society from infecting poor people like Bill (at the beginning of the film), is to rectify those problems that caused his frustration.
Has anyone ever noticed that when D Fens walks up to the highway construction zone before using the rocket launcher…that the guy yelling out his car window that he punches 1:12, is the same (actor) guy that he confronts just seconds later 6:20 working construction
"The drinker recommends falling down"
Best title for a video ever.
xD dude
But I get back up again...
Help! I've fallen and I can't get up
This comment gave me a much appreciated chuckle, I hadn't noticed that connection either.
That was a great laugh. Thank you!
"I dont want lunch.
I want breakfast."
Dude should have said, look we put all our breakfast foods back in storage and changed the fryer temperature and many other things for the lunch menu. It would be asinine to ask for us to change it all back so you can have your egg McMuffin.” A reasonable guy would understand
Hey...Im really sorry
"I don't want to be your buddy, Rick."
You tell them it's company policy, sorry. You don't keep poking at him and pissing him off more than he already is.
He ended up buying the burger anyway, and he became the manager's "buddy".
"and now you're gonna die, wearing that stupid little hat."
Love that line.
"How does it feel?"
I say that to the
TRUMPANAZIS
I also love the lines: "Pills? Where are your pills?" It's the delivery, drenched in sarcasm lol.
"Don't forget me"
And whilst many people think that he is cold, callous and deranged, instead, it seems to me more like a snowball effect. When you have that tunnel vision, and things progressively get worse.
At this moment, he is able to see the irony, and whilst karma might seem excessive, he probably assumes the old guy should live with the consequences of his actions… And who should help the old guy because nobody is helping him.
"I'm the bad guy?"
That line never fails to bring tears to my eyes, every single time I hear it
Bruh I can't even watch this movie with people, especially since for a long time I couldn't see my own daughter, it just hits hard at the end
he wasnt the bad guy originally.. they rewrote him to be an abusive dad because the studio thought if he was shown as a pure anti hero. white men might get ideas about standing up for themselves.. ( bu bu but we will have copy cat crime! cuz thats a white thing ive never really seen but whatever)
“I’m the bad guy?”
still gives me chills to this day.
Me too man. It brought a tear to my eye just watching the scene replayed here.
Yes, it sucks to say that to yourself doesn't it?....YES!
@@mcg3334 His last words, after being shot by the cop, were "I would have got you." And he was right. The cop has water on his shirt. That made his ending even more sad (I can't remember if he had a real gun or not, and chose not to use it).
@@FranG1214 He committed suicide by cop by making him think the water gun was real.
That line makes the whole film...it stayed in my mind ever since i first saw it
"I'm the bad guy? I did everything they told me to." His feelings of abandonment & betrayal are so heartbreaking. It's as if your own life stared you in the face and said, "No, you weren't good enough."
abandonment is betrayal...in this case, he trusted a society that exploited him and lied to him and threw him away. Betrayal requires trust. You really can't feel abandoned without trust and being given false expectations. Betrayal of course has darker connotations of active back-stabbing rather than passive left-to-die vibes, but they are about the same. Unfortunately, I know a little about both. You could say, for instance, 'my wife betrayed me and abandoned me for another', but the act of screwing Tom from work doesn't change. The main semantic difference is 'betrayal' usually connotes something more personal...but you could say Bill was either abandoned or betrayed by the society he served, both work
John Walker stated this during his senate hearing during Falcon and the Winter Soldier
@@artcarrasco9 Indeed my friend, indeed
It is betrayal, that's why it hurts so much
My uncle found out that his tax dollars were solely going to a welfare queen who collected five different checks due to having five kids from five men.
"i did everything they told me to" - man does that ring true
Yup, that statement is usually followed by Divorce paperwork and Alimony
WELL WHERE THE FUCK DID I GO WRONG?!
Perhaps the real lesson of the film is: "don't do what they tell you to"?
Probably what KILLDOZER guy said.. R.I.P to an american hero
@@maxrockatanksyOG You got mad, Max.
Falling Down is the most genuinely underrated and important movie of the 90’s. It holds a mirror up to society and shows that we’re all just one bad day away from snapping.
The real movie about postal
Joker would love Falling Down.
And keep in mind, this was set in *90's* LA. Don't get me wrong, LA in the 90's was pretty damn bad... but then Newsome and the Democrats looked back at California's situation in the 90's and were like "Hold my beer".
Gavin, the shit state of California in the 90's is NOT a god damn challenge!
@@DelightfullyMADD This is a video about a movie. Don’t bring politics into this.
Had pretty shitty days, weeks, months and entire years. Haven't snapped yet. Should I snap? Should I be preparing myself for a possible snapping?
Very bad mirror.
I am "Latin" and I can't stand the expression "LatinX" and the god awful "People of Color." Identity politics is evil.
Yeah they have been playing identity politics for a long time.
What does Latinx even mean?
@Chris Williams yet thanks for answering the Latin x question.
@Chris Williams you get it.
@Chris Williams wish I was in that class with you. I would troll so hard about how the white man took everything from my middle eastern family. My fathers ppl r from the Caucasus mountains by the way would be the twist at end. I would crush that class.
Back when movies had: *good actors* , a solid *plot* , and character development.
Some Guy But The Last Jedi???
Don’t forget a tight script.
@@jlrob85 Who needs the Last Jedi when you've got the *Amy* *Schumer* Netflix special??
@@SumDumGy I agree
@@SumDumGy Can't forget the keystone that holds it all together - a competent director.
"The child who is not embraced by the village, will burn it down to feel it's warmth"
What is this a quote from? Cause I love it
Gandhi or Hillary? I can't place it.
was this in Joker or something else? I've heard it recently
It’s an Antonio Brown quote
Carrie (1976)
...
Fun fact: Supposedly, Kirk Douglas (the father of the main actor, for the ~1% that don't know), when asked about what he thought was his Son's finest performance, cited Falling Down as his choice.
wow. Spartagus is my fav of all time. From when movies reached for more and got there. Maybe it's the film he most respected of his son's work.
That was pointed out in the video. Did you actually watch it ?
Citation needed. What time? There was not... @@margaretedwards1366
Michael Douglas should have been nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actor.
This film is criminally underrated and sadly, mostly forgotten.
he wasn't even nominated? what a shame
Didnt this movie catch flak when it came out? People saying it was racist becuz of the angry white guy theme?
Nah there's still a lot of people like us out there who truly appreciate great story telling and acting this. Well never forget. Also Robert Duvall turned in pretty great performance as well
@@lukewalken1316 no I remembered when this came out and there was no drama of that kind around it. As matter of fact it was praised by critics and fans alike. Now ofcourse nowadays it would be torn apart by the sjws and called every bs thing they can come up with like racist, sexist, and probably right wing crap for incels. F#$k sjw Hollywood
He should've won.
"I'm the bad guy?" That sheer confusion on his face when asking is just heartbreaking.
You go from hoping he wins to dreading what will happen if he won shortly before that point. I love this movie
Sheer confusion should be on EVEYONES face when they realise everyone in this movie except DFENS is the "bad guy" and is perfectly acceptable..
That's one phrase you'll never hear from a SJW.
Not to mention the response from Prendergast that expresses so much through the tone "Yeah."
“How did that happen? I did everything I was supposed to.” just makes it even worse.
I will never forget hearing that line for the first time: “I’m the bad guy? How did that happen...?” The way Douglas delivers it is, as you said, absolutely heartbreaking, because he’s not being sarcastic or defensive...he’s really asking the question in earnest, though he might not expect an actual answer.
And who amongst us hasn't felt that way at some time in their lives. We follow the rules of society every day, even to our detriment and yet we still get crapped on from a great height while those who flout those same rules seem to be life's winners. It's no wonder so many of us hate this world and can't wait to leave it.
I'm loving the way u characterize his delivery of that line. U are so right, about that lack of sarcasm, which I am so weary of today.
Michael K I agree “I’m the bad guy?” And “You got two suitcase where is mine” loved both of those.
Looks just like the republicans of today
@@lezlezman1843 Who hasn't felt that way in their lives at some point? Dude! I feel that way NOW! When it feels like the world takes a daily dump on you and you alone, you wish The Purge was a real event.
Nobody could have done this role like Michael Douglas. He brings such a relatable presence to a character you'd otherwise never want to characterize yourself with.
I think Robin Williams definitely could've pulled it off just as well if not better but other than him I don't think there's any else that could've done it
@@BaldingSasquatch I bet Tom Hanks would kill it, or maybe Hugh Jackman.
@@rc7074 Hanks, maybe. Jackman? Nah, he's too much the tough, don't-mess-with-me 'werewolf' guy. The role needs an average everyman, somebody you wouldn't for a second think of as a dangerous person, when you're standing next to them in a checkout line.
“I’m the bad guy? How did that happen?” Great line.
Scenes like this start to resonate more as you get older, life hasn't destroyed you yet.
As a child, you dream of being the hero. But as you get older, the villains start making more sense.
Jim Carrey - Batman Forever - Edward Nygma
I remember (being old that is) the reviews of this movie when it came out. One of them sounded like this.
"Oh dear, another movie about how hard it is to be a white man today."
I thought that was really unkind, not even trying to look at the films good qualities, and what it was trying to say. Little did I know such reviews would be a sign of things to come.
Yes, when we are the only decent race in this planet, it's so unfair.
HAASSSSS! You went to far man, there’s good and bad on either sides of everything. I agree that by a default the white straight male has the odds stacked against us nowadays but we aren’t better than anyone. We all are equal. Some people don’t want us to be seen as such and would rather supremacy (ex. KKK, 3rd wave feminist). It’s up to the normal people everywhere to not let the crazies on both sides try to sway us.
@@hisalloy87
Have you seen any gore website?.
@@hisalloy87
If you did you will know exactly what I meant.
Like these.
ruclips.net/video/K6BpctfGICM/видео.html
And here.
ruclips.net/video/_ALQAkTsMuU/видео.html
No hot girls wearing next to nothing
No nudity
No special effects
No tough guy running around like Rambo
Just a great story, great characters and brilliantly acted...oh, and a shit ton of people wishing they did the same thing in life
Englandsbestlover that was the controversy when this was first released. People found him an heroic character, instead of a man on his way to murder his wife and daughter
@@geoffrogerson9937 because he never was on his way to murder his family, he wanted to visit his daughter on her birthday after being blocked from seeing her for a long while, he was the HERO of the movie, nothing you can say changes that.
Malal that’s exactly what he thought. But for an innocent man he really left a lot of bodies in his wake
AND...........no being based n an established IP!
Englandsbestlover he's not Evercreech that tough. Just pissed off
"Don't forget me." Far too many today feel forgotten and ababdoned. This film was absolutely brilliant!
Douglas’ character then immediately forgot that guy and continued his gun toting rampage.
@@bobcobb3654 Huh? He remembered that guy all throughout the movie. When he met the caretaker? "They called me not economically viable". When facing Prendergast? "I did everything they told me to!". He couldn't forget that guy, because he WAS that guy.
Idk, how else you could understand this scene? As in he should have gone to the police and got the other guy out of jail?
@@TrykusMykus as in the black guy with a legitimate gripe gets arrested and hauled off while the white guy who is far more dangerous gets to go on about his bullet spraying spouse threatening day. Scene was more about how superficial LA cops in the 90s were about real threats.
@@bobcobb3654 I won't try to convince you otherwise (I have a feeling it would be a futile exercise), but how I understood that scene was to show that Bill felt for that guy and understood what he went through. If you look at it, Bill is the only one who pays attention to him - why? Because he understands him. And the black guy with (the same as Bill) legitimate gripe gets arrested for trying to manifest legally, showcasing how helpless people like *The black guy* or Bill really are. I mean that's what the "Don't forget me" exchange was supposed to represent, the two guys in a similar situation met and exchanged a certain kind of understanding. Otherwise, that scene is completely pointless in the scope of the movie.
@@TrykusMykus except there is no depth to Bill. Why was he even in traffic that day? Why did he need change for the phone? His whole day’s quest was to get to his ex-wife’s house uninvited, restraining order be damned. He’s not an Everyman being pushed by the system. He’s a bitter divorcee violently lashing out.
"I'm the bad guy? How did that happen? I did everything they told me to..."
I feel like that daily......
Be careful about that, please.
@Tony Thank you Tony, you are absolutely right. The only thing one ca do is to stay away from people as much as possible and recharge your energy in nature.
@Tony Try to break away from as many of the negative people as possible. And as cliched as it sounds, every single day you wake up is another chance to make your own life better.
@@TheCriticalDrinker AKA Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life.
This is why I treat everyone with respect, you never know what people are going through
I give everyone my respect upfront. It's up to them weather or not to lose it..
I treat people with decency, but you gotta _earn_ respect.
Theres a subtle difference.
I think the word is courtesy
Always be nice to the kid who could be the school shooter. It might save a life
@@Starcraftgamer97 I'm afraid of snapping one day. Like my father did to me a few times recently. I don't want to hurt anyone, but I don't want to scare anyone even more.
Treat Joe Nobody like he's a disposable drone, deprive his every human interaction of any kindness, tell him his looming rage is just a symptom of his own pathetic moral failings, then act shocked and appalled when he draws a gun on a fast food clerk over something that "wasn't even a big deal."
It is interesting cause everyone gets and relates to that yet the movie reveals he was an abusive prick to his loved ones etc and became the bad guy. It is a lot to take in when trying to process how to feel about it.
@@ArkaynAdrian It is tragic and scary how many victims of suicide and abuse are themselves abusive bullies. Everyone sees themselves as the "good guy."
While the "I'm the bad guy" line makes perfect sense thematically, it seems as though it is a bit too on-the-nose in the context of the movie. I don't know if Douglass' character ever started getting a hero complex from his violent spree, or if he had just come unglued and gotten caught up in it. At that point, a person isn't really thinking about morality. Heck, most spree killers know they're being bad and have become so far-gone that they've fully embraced it.
You can only push someone for so long before they start to push back.
@@ATSucks1 what did the nazi represent?
@@wanderingoryx3710 social justice warriors
Falling Down is a great film from the 1990s that sums up the 2020s very accurately.
Laugs ALSO in V for Vendetta, Demolition Man and possibly The Day After.
Same also with both Fight Club and American Beauty 👍
Sometimes I think I`m there especially when giving back shit to narcissistic young dumb liberals, woke-tards and SJWs
@@piotrd.4850 I was justing thinking about Demolition Man. They opened up a Taco Bell near where I worked and I thought "They Won the Franchise Wars!"
This is what's been missing with art lately. Art is prophetic and stands the test of time. All the trash that we've seen lately is just assembly line nonsense that's ready for the trash the instant it's consumed.
“Wait. I’m the bad guy?”
“Yeah”
Absolutely banging film
😢
Watched it after the Drinker recommended it! How did I miss this. So sad.
I must have seen it 30 times or more. One of the best films Hollywood ever produced. D-FENS!!
"How'd that happen? I did everything they told me to."
The scene where he thinks the little girl is hurt, is heartbraking. Even on a mad rampage, he is just a guy, lost in the madness.
"Falling Down" Probably more relevant in 2020 then when it was made.
This man acted spontaneously, today's events are more scripted than this movie!
@@Allangulon I was referring less to his actions and more to society demonizing him because it was socially expedient.
There's a lot of people who have been taught to think they're William lashing out at everything they can hurt right now.
The very system that coos sweet lies about helping them is also the system telling them to riot and burn their own livelihoods, because cities that suffer riots that bad almost never recover.
This move and They Live will always be relevant.
research 'going postal'. This is a dramatic take on the phenomenon and the economic climate surrounding it.
Back in the late 90's, my high school psychology teacher showed this movie in his class. The story stuck with me, and years later I thanked him for introducing this movie to us. Falling Down is by far one of the best movies I've ever seen, and a solid testament to Michael Douglas's superb acting abilities.
"That's not our policy. You have to order something from the lunch menu"
Marvellous film. That is all.
"Yeah, well hey... I'm REALLY sorry." "Yeah, well I'm really sorry TOO."
Hey Mikey! relax.
Breakfast served all day at
Mc⚰'s!
Falling Down is a timeless piece of work, and even more relevant now in 2019 than in the early 90's.
Agreed. It's practically prophetic.
I enjoyed the '90s. They were pretty good to me.
No where near as horrible as the movie portrays.
It wasn't until after 9/11, when the whole world lost it's collective goddamn mind, that I lost all faith in humanity.
@@joelhassig6099 Agreed I think the movie was before its time, perhaps the makers could sense the shit coming and thought making this film was a matter of urgency to positively affect audiences.
@@chatteyj totally agree with both of you. But I'm wondering where are these writers/producers and directors that they dont come up and continue making such powerful thought provoking movies.
It was relevant even then.
This movie predicted the demographic changes and what they would bring as time dragged on. Diversity breeds nothing but tension and conflict and Falling Down portrays that in many ways. In the convenience store, Bill says "I'm rolling back prices to 1965." I believe he landed on that date because the Immigration Act of 1965 was passed then. From the Hispanic gangs to the neo Nazi, everything is covered and it's quite a good commentary on the subject.
I remember seeing this in the theater and everyone cheered when he blew up the unnecessary road work that was stalling traffic ! We've all been there!
I love the laidback conversation with the kid leading up to that 😂
Same. My hometown has this long road that had construction workers on it working all day for over 3 years and it took them 2 years just to get halfway done. It’s such bullshit.
This is why you pay construction upfront and a little bit more..
Because if they get paid by duration they're gonna fucking stretch that shit out years!
@@adamklase8547 no, you set up a strict deadline up front with MASSIVE penalties if the work isnt done on time...
Lol
1990 - You're not economically viable
2020 - You're not an essential worker
Also 2020, you’re not diverse, or you asked the wrong question during DEI
As George Carlin would say "it's the continual pussification of the English language"
2023 Where have all the baby boomers gone, now we're really falling down
@@davedrew2657 We're crashing this economy, with no survivors
"Overqualified"
"I did everything they told me to." That line totally unsettles me. Great, tragic movie.
"We did everything adults would do. What went wrong?" - Golding, Lord of the Flies.
"I've reached the point of no return."
"Do you know what that is?"
"It's when going back to what you were is a longer journey than continuing to what you are going becoming."
Normally, a moving pointing out 'this is when the hero becomes the villain', would irate me, but it was SO good & powerful that I don't care! State the obvious, I'm good with it.
It was thematic. He was probably closer to his destination than his starting point, but also he had crossed the line from violent assault to actual homicide (taking a life).
Past bingo fuel is an exhilarating frightening place to be in life. Hero or villain is a point of view.
@@joelellis7035 You make it sound like he was a murderer when in actuality he just acted in self defense. And the old fart having a heart attack was his own fault.
@@heroesytumbas you're confusing scenes. Shark Dentures was referring to the lines that the main character said while still in the army surplus store. This is just after he had killed the owner of the store.
Great film indeed. In Ukraine its tile was translated as "I've had enough" which is probably not as subtle but very straight to the point.
In Brasil, the name of the movie was translated as "A day of fury".
"In Soviet Russia, movie titles you."
@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 probably the dumbest shit you could have replied
@@smilevsky That, sir, is a very smart response. No wonder Ukraine is considered the Zimbabwe of eastern Europe. Yob tvoyu mat, suka.
@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 try reading less of Russian propaganda. IDI DOMOY VODKI NET.
A significant item is that at the end, Bill pulls a water pistol instead one of his many firearms. He also gets Prendergast with the water pistol and they both know it. Regardless of how bad Bill got, at the end he is still a good man
Michael Douglas once said this was his favourite character to play. at the time the media gave time to people who claimed this film was racist and not entertainment .Douglas and Duval were both aamazing in this film. now am off to get a whammy burger . Dfens Dfens
@wude
So as a White Supremacist demon are you saying anything else besides "Racism" doesn't exist? Didn't think so. You are Evil.
@@negloblaxon7616 idk my guy, calling someone a white supremacist demon seems pretty evil - are you the bad guy? How'd that happen?
The most underrated film of all time. I Remember seeing this as a kid and realizing how special it was especially as a kid growing up in Los Angeles. It made me realize I wasn't alone in feeling how dead this city is internally
They should of had him wonder into Charles Bukowskis hood and go into his local bar....
Do us a all a favor and look up the word " underrated "
Here's a tip:
if you gave nothing approaching intelligent to type then don't type anything. You Half- wit.
@@thomasmills339 imagine putting spaces when quoting underrated
@@thomasmills339: You should probably heed your own advice, dumbass.
“This stage of the movie plays out like a video game. Bill’s taking on tougher and tougher opponents, upgrading his weapons as he goes.” It’s lines like this that I watch these reviews for.
Even for a wammy Burger!
POWERUPS!!!
it's Metroid, isn't it?
In 2020 you get charged for loot boxes
The older I get,......the more I can relate to Bill Foster
You’re not alone mate.
No you are not
Same.
We’re all D~Fens now
Victor Meldrew on steroids.
I see him as an honest man who was broken beyond repair, He was very much like Marvin Heemeyer, the guy who created the Killdozer, a home made tank.
Marvin said in tapes about why he did what he did, and one line sticks out for me for both Falling Down and what he did.
"Sometimes reasonable men are forced to do unreasonable things."
A real American hero
Dunno know this sounds to admit it, but the Killdozer story is fuckin unreal. Nice to see someone who knows it, www.damninteresting.com/the-wrath-of-the-killdozer/
@@simondaniel4028 fascinating! Thank you for the link. Website looks interesting as well
Killdozer did nothing wrong.
After hearing the story of Killdozer (as narrated by daddy dankula), I definitely think he was more in the right.
My cousin plays Michael Douglas' daughter in this movie. I remember seeing the movie as a kid and not understanding how someone could snap like that, now I'm older, wiser, and living through the hell that is 2020.
Regardless of the year, the older you get, the more you can relate to this film.
Unless you're one of the lucky few whose life goes without any major hitches.
@John Robertson yeah, I can certainly relate to working hard and having nothing to show for it. So it's true for the U.K too.
@John Robertson well I mean just that there are societies that actually give a shot about their citizens .
I didnt understand when i see it too, but now, that i study for so long, get nothing, to show off, see life as it is, i can relate with him
2021 says to old it's beer.
"I think we have a critic."
"I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick."
I think she's reacting to Batwoman.
I bust out laughing when I first heard that.
@Anton Boludo that's where the scene ends. Kid raises his hand...pause...cut. Cinematic and comedic mastery.
I think we have a tec9.
You can’t ignore the feelings of emasculation these two men have. Prendergast’s wife is a gone-to-seed harridan, warped by grief, who talks down to him when he doesn’t pander to her childish behaviour. Bill’s wife is a touch hysterical, determined to assert her dominance over the failed relationship by cutting him out of his child’s life. Both men have lost control. I feel for them. Great film.
Dang. Great synopsis regarding modern society and what it does to males
Remember we do get one scene when Bill is watching home movies there is a scene that hints that he was in fact a shit father and husband. I'm not ready to just throw his wife under the bus as some harlot trying to ruin his life when he doesn't deserve it.
@@tsdobbi no, I get that, but considering how crazy his mom is I’m not surprised. There’s clearly mental health issues there. And the fact that Prendergast is also dealing with crazy at home shows just how often this can affect families of all kinds. But his wife is hardly understanding by keeping his daughter from him - there’s clearly a lot of love between him and that little girl.
well, he didn't draw a gun, it was a plastic toy gun, which means he didn't want to kill the detective, he wanted to be killed. thats very important to the character and the story. it was never his intention to hurt anyone initially..
This is one of the best movies I have ever seen by the way.
Fantastic review!
Yep and it's important to remember that his wife was guilty of overstating the danger he posed to her and his little girl thus depriving him of the one thing that kept him together.
Fantastic movie! I thought the line "I'm the bad guy?" really captured his descent into darkness.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
"Wait, *I'm* the bad guy? How did that happen..?"
So goddamn heartbreaking. And relateable
We are all the bad guy from someone´s perspective, and it is not necessarily too bad of a thing since life keeps going and it becomes a thing of the past.
I should know, i do take pride on most of the instances because that ment i stood for what was right (from my perspective), and in the other cases it is irrelevant because it is not really me they hate but rather the uniform, and they would just have been angry with one of my colleagues if it were not me.
That line perfectly captured my feelings when I saw this movie in my early 20's and it still does today now that I am almost 50.
The moment you stand up you're the bad guy. Conform. Obey. Or else we'll kill you for daring to step out of line. And everybody will hate you for trying to color outside the lines.
@@GenericUserName443 Omg real right and wrong isn't about people's perspective it just is! Ffs
The answer is: NO, you're not the bad guy. You're a man in the mold of the founding fathers. You've had enough, you're fighting back, and you'll either recreate things in your image or have the satisfaction of knowing you didn't just take it.
His heart - breakingly poignant, almost bitter-sweet request of "I'm going home, clear a path for me, I just want to go home" is one of the most memorable aspects of this film for me. A working man, or just any man, who's now a shell of his former self, who has to literally beg and demand to be left alone in peace from a society hell - bent on doing everything it can to prevent that is both deeply irrevocable and way too relatable. Only 1 day away from being him, only 1.
He wants to go home, but home isn't a place he can go anymore. It's lost.
Please seek help
@Dan1elAndrade if u knew the amount of ppl literally 1 bad day from snapping itd scare you
@@captaintoyota3171 There're a lot of ppl not even 1 day away, many are just one event (a broken A/C in a traffic jam?) away from snapping.
He's not a working man, he works in an office for a war machine that kills poor people of all races abroad
This movie was a harbinger for what was to come, like a warning shot fired over the bow. Even back then, all my PC friends trashed it, just from its trailer. "White Guy, oh boo-hoo." I saw it because I had the good fortune to have gone to high school with the writer, Ebbe Roe Smith, so I hoped it was good. It shocked me how good it was. And it was a big movie at the time. It was on the cover of either Time or Newsweek, as a comprehensive look at what was happening to a whole huge section of the populace. Thank you for highlighting that unbearably moving line, "I'm the bad guy...?" Michael Douglas looked exactly like my dad did most of his life: same haircut, same abiding by the rules, same job It was a heartbreaking movie, and it deserves to be remembered and rewatched.
I seem to recall similarly dismissive responses from many critics. This and movies like Joker and Fight Club show the problem in following critical consensus. Too many critics judge the topic - or rather, their interpretation of the topic - rather than the film itself. In other cases, like Kids and American Beauty, an edgy topic rendered with good-looking cinematography gets the critics falling all over themselves with praise when there isn't really that much underneath the surface.
@@calmbbaer lol who gives a sh!t about the critics? They're efforts at movie making generally went down in flames, which is the reason they became critics in the first place.
The measure of a movie is how it connects with its audience and spins a compelling and engaging story, with believable and relatable characters - and by that measure, Falling Down did a great job.
Also had a fair bit of prophecy.
That was the first thing that hit me about this movie when I saw the previews back in the day...he looked like my dad.
@@calmbbaer I was sent to a lock down boarding school in 2003 that would assign every dozen or so new "students" to peer groups. Every couple months each peer group progresses through the program by (forcibly) attending what they called "lifesteps". These were held in an octagonal shaped room with no windows or clocks so we never knew what time it was. We were deprived sleep and food for hours on end. Lifesteps would last almost three days. The staff tasked to operate the lifesteps would implement certain elements of a system for psychological manipulation referred to as monarch mind control. In the second lifestep named "forever young" consisted of the staff berating and verbally abusing the kids. A few hours in and a few hours before the yelling sessions, we were told to watch a few movies and write a full page report on each one. (a full page meant side to side, past either margin. Top to bottom, also past each margin. Front AND back. Past EVERY margin) we watched Crash, Life as a House, Once We're Warriors and Kids. I'll never forget being noticeably shocked while actively attempting to recognize it as cinema and an interpretation of life. Kids was pretty shocking to me. I could always see how it can be seen as great art but it definitely isn't something that should be revered as magnificent. Long story short; Falling Down is obviously a product of Hollywood but it really is phenomenal. Glad I found it while my brain was still developing🤙🏻
"They see a white man in a shirt and tie and take him for an easy mark." This hit home, hard. I work at a local bakery in the downtown section of Bemidji, MN, overnight 1AM to whenever the work is done. After an attempted carjacking outside of work in the parking lot in 2018, I now openly carry a handgun into work, and my boss is okay with it. Am I a badass? Far from it. I just want to get home after work to see my two kids again.
Got lost on the youtube, decided to post an update. Walked out of said job a little over a month ago, the lead cook went with me. I now work the day shift at another J.O.B, outside of Bemidji, less money, more hours. Am extremely tired when I get home. Yet, strangely, the money is still the same. I no longer feel scared for my safety and no longer need to carry a firearm into the work place, due to safety protocols and not being inside of Bemidji in the middle of the night. I plan on moving this Spring, back to the country. I don't plan on returning to Bemidji, ever. My life and those of my family are going to change for the better. Thanks for the likes, whomever you were, God bless you and I hope you live well.
If something happens, make sure you empty the clip so you can tell the judge you feared for your life.
The glories of diversity.
@@ultimatemixmeister5127 I’m here in Stillwater and would never have guessed what you faced in Bemidji. I’m glad you’re going somewhere you feel better about. Many times, living in the country means less expenses so you can make less money and still be happy and also financially ok. Good luck on your journey and I wish you the best.
Are you a badass is a question the left wants people to ask it's propaganda
This movie if it came out today would send the activist media running for their safe spaces.
No, they would write tons of false misinformed blog posts about how horrible the movie is before they've even seen the film...you know like what they did to the recent Joker movie.
which would be weird for them to do since he only actually kills himself and a nazi. You think they would be down with that.
This is the single most politically and culturally relevant movie today. And it was released way back in the 90's. This movie was way ahead of its time.
I would imagine so If we all Exploded like that At ounce The weak and Spineless Wouldn't have a safe place anywhere. Honestly it would make the purge look like a Picnic
Are you guys getting triggered by something that hasn't happened? Also, I've seen a few iffy articles about Joker, but mainly I've seen extremely positive, film of the year type reviews. Falling Down rocks, and could absolutely get made today.
One of the greatest films ever made.
Period.
He’s not a hero, he’s not a villain, he’s just a man.
We may be a dying/unwanted breed, but like drinker said, discard us at your peril...
It genuinely terrifying how much more relevant this film is right now, as compared to when it was released.
There’s a LOT of us Bill’s out there...
It was one of the first examples of the anti-hero protagonist that would come to define the 90s and 00s. Nowadays good and evil have to be spelled out in simple letters as if the audience were 5 year olds, and the anti-hero has become ‘edgelord’.
Michael Douglas: The original Grand Theft Auto character.
He had one too many "wanna go bowling" calls.
holy shit, you're right.
Yep sir
Michael Douglas: An actor not a character.
Falling Down: Only-vaguely-similar to a freeroam rampage in Grand Theft Auto, which is also not a character.
@@damienmb88 Wow. Your life must really sucked when you have to correct someone. NO SHIT! Get a sense of humor. Better yet, GET THE FUCK OFF MY COMMENT SECTION!
One of Michael Douglas' best films ever.
It's a draw between this and Wall Street.
Only
One of Joel Schumacher's best films ever.
@@psychodrummer1567 never seen Wallstreet.
@@fishsmell2570
He's great in Wall Street.
Saw the Drinker recommends "Falling Down" in my feed. Did not watch the recommends. Proceeded to watch the movie, then returned to this video. What a fantastic recommendation!
Winner
Literally just did exactly that.
I find your abundance of faith undisturbing
now we know why we subscribe and can relate to the drinker
Nice vote of confidence.
One of the things missed by this review is the conversation between William's Ex-wife and the police officer sent to check on her. The officer asks what the nature of William's abuse was, and she doesn't have an answer, just a vague explanation that she thought he was capable of violence, but also that he had never perpetrated any towards her or their daughter.
You see, Bill was capable of violence after all, but like those gangsters, his wife forced his hand when she separated him from his daughter. One has to ask whether he would have ever snapped if he hadn't been betrayed and abandoned by the family he clearly loved.
Yep, his ex was the antagonist the whole time.
Great comment, great point. Women can just make vague and fake claims of being "abusive", and a man will pay but never see his kids.
Yes but to be fair he does watch the video where he is very cold and unloving, so there is a hint of him also being of blame.
@@bluefish4999 Yes, nobody should have to spend their life with an arsehole, whether they are violent or not. However, nobody should be kept from their children unless that child is under threat from violence. So divorce = 👍and not being able to see the kid = 👎
@@FalloutBreakbeat the problem about that scene is that it's the same hint that his wife gave to the policemen: his husband could be irritable, or nervous, but he never was really violent or beaten her even once. It's a way to put doubt in our minds in two ways: could he be violent with his family or was he just having a bad day?
"And now you're gonna die wearing that stupid little hat - how does it feel?"
Probably my favorite line in all of cinema, because it's deceptively simple. On the surface it's just a clever quip that Bill manages to get out as he's lauding his victory over the golfer. On a deeper level, however, it is brilliantly illuminating as to how where Bill's head is at in the moment. A normal person would probably at least feel guilty for causing this man's death, but Bill is so overwhelmed by his need for revenge against the cruel world around him that he instead finds it comical. It shows that Bill is completely lost to his madness already but that he's not yet gripped that he is in the exact same position. Like the golfer, lying there dying as a result of his own hubris and anger, Bill has already effectively ended his own life at this point with the several violent outbursts he's had. He is simply living on borrowed time, yet in the moment he is so satisfied that he's won this encounter he can't see the forest for the trees and only thinks how comically ironic it is that the man's arrogance has effectively been his own end.
Oof
How do you know the old man dies?
@@holyravioli5795 Because 90s medical capabilities pretty much ensured it, that and he deserved to.
See also: Pyrrhic Victory.
@@Thane36425 The guy was rich, i doubt that he couldn't have made it to a hospital.
"Their aim is about as accurate as a post-sex piss." The lines you come up with in your drunken stupor are pure gold.
Yeah, I loved that one.
Yeah. That comment was gold. And relateable 😁
He's basically aping Mr Plinkett, hoping to snatch some of those million subs. It's pretty obvious, actually.
@@johnjamele Eh, not quite. Mr. Plinkett is a serial killer who reviews awful movies. The Critical Drinker is a drunk that reviews awful movies... and who is less "Oh damn man... that joke is GROSS, what is WRONG with you?!" than Mr. Plinkett.
Also... he's good at reviewing, so he gets some leeway.
The "I'm the bad guy" bit stuck in my head when I watched this as a kid and then when I went back as an adult and saw it again the whole scene struck hard.
Directed by Joel Schumacher
It’s such a powerful line. And most people miss it.
I didn't appreciate this movie at the time of its release. I just saw it as another semi-decent, yet forgettable action popcorn-type film. It wasn't until decades later, that I understood the deep social commentary it was making and saw it for the art that it truly was. The underpinnings about how the system is structured by government, corporations, and citizen parasites who keep the common man down. They can abuse the common man in whatever way they desire, but when the common man bites back in the same way, he gets labeled as the bad guy, terrorist, and misfit. His demise means little, and the system continues to churn on after he's gone.
LOL. I saw this movie in 90s, when I was a kid - and still I remembered it as a great movie.
"I'm the bad guy?"
"Yeah."
"How did that happen?"
My question is how the hell did Joel Schumacher manage to make this film so amazing and yet make Batman and Robin such sh!t?
I'm amazed he had any time to make any movies at all. "Joel Schumacher estimates he’s had up to 20,000 sexual partners" - NYPost
8mm was great too
Because with Batman he was pressured to make it marketable for toy sales. I give him props though for apologizing to the fans.
J J Batman a robin was a classic movie up there with cool hand Luke and warriors
Because this movie is a clever propaganda film that relates to fellow red pill lads.
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I love the way this movie starts. That traffic jam was one of the most humid and suffocating things I've ever seen in cinema.
Exactly! When he opens the door it feels like I'm no longer suffocating, but then the journey begins.
As someone who has lived in Southern California for 32 years, I can report that Falling Down is the most realistic depiction of Los Angeles ever put to film.
Yikes!
Sure it's not Demolition Man?
Predator 2?
None of those, it's Escape from LA with Kurt Russell
Falling down whilst escaping the LA predator demolition.
I was born in 1992 and even as a child, I recognized this movie as a masterpiece. Definitely top five of all time.
"Falling Down" is one of those movies that really changes as you yourself get older... if you watch it as a teen, you see a straight-up action film, in your twenties, you cheer on the anti-hero of Bill... you get into your thirties and forties? The movie is so much deeper...
Indeed, each passing decade adds a layer of complexity and clarity
I don't know about you, but I watched this when I was about 17 and it's one of the few movies that straight up made me cry
When he watches those tapes, straight up a heartbreaking scene
I don't need to be 40 to understand the themes the film conveys. Now, the actual pain, yes.
👍
I dunno. I'm the age of the protagonist in this movie, and all I see is a cartoon of an entitled complainer. I don't see much nuance in this film at all. Better people than this guy have had to deal with their dignity being stripped away in worse ways than a bad divorce and a job loss, and they do it without wasting a bunch of people. The best you can do is learn to bounce back.
"YOU FORGOT MY BAG.........I AM GOING HOME" Loved this movie. They dont make them like this anymore.
Joker isn't as tightly written, but damn if Joaquin Phoenix doesn't steal the movie.
@@BrownGaijin yea Joker is good but isnt as compact as Falling Down.
“This is the guy who was told if he followed the rules and did what he was told, that everything would be alright.”
In other words, he’s me. And millions of others like me.
@```` *Was* a conformist. I was a Marine. Obeying orders was kinda my thing for a while.
Men, millions of men like you
Just some dude. Average.
You forget the part where he has anger issues, before his lost the job. In the home video you could see how shitty person he was. If anything, I would say that the movie is about not turning attention to your own or others mental health. That stress builds up, and can do bad things to average people. There were refrences to someone (probably his dad) being in the marines, maybe he had a tough childhood, his dad treated him bad, because he had PTSD.
@@Riprie So do you think society at large plays no role whatsoever in the mental development of the people within it? It wasn't his Marine dad that pushed him over the edge.
"And now you're gonna die wearing that stupid little hat, how does it feel" what a line 🤣
One of my most favourite films. Even as a kid I fully understood that he was deeply depressed and having a breakdown. "Their aim is about as accurate as a post-sex piss" brilliant!!
Directed by Joel Schumacher! Yes the Bat Nipples director made this
You can’t bully someone then get mad when they retaliate it’s just like middle school all over again.
Lot of people kill themselves if you tell them real life is just a bigger High School.
You mean like the Palestinians do to Israel? Ooops.... I said it...
@@danm5911 jews deserved it
@@jcstides said like a true warmonger. Nobody "deserves" to get blown up while walking to the store. If you think they do, you should be locked up.
@@danm5911 tell that to the 6 year old who throws a rock and gets vaporized by the israelis lmao
"I don't wanna be your buddy Rick... I just want some breakfast"
Probably his finest role as an actor.
If the media hates joker, imagine how they'd react to this.
I haven't seen it, but Joker looks positively tame compared to this.
All they'd have to do is have him wear a MAGA hat the whole time and the movie would be fine. It'd be like "see i told you those trump supporters are crazy"
What are you talking about? They would love a movie about a white conservative going berserk. They could even ad more leftist propaganda than the original already has... They hate the joker because is mostly apolitical.
@@stavrosmayakofsky1915 I'd argue he's intentionally neither. He's a dedicated man; dedicated to his family, to his job, and they've both been taken from him; that's the heart of what makes D FENS what he was and what he becomes. None of that requires any particular political position or identity.
@@vcdonovan5943 Its not. Oh its no where nearly incendiary as media pretended its was but its violence is less sanitized as the violence in Falling Down. And that's intentional with Joker you're not supposed to entirely sympathize with him just understand how a broken man who never really had a chance just stopped giving a shit about even trying to do good in a world that never gave a shit about him. Falling Down is about a man lashing out at a system he once believed in that discarded him and him trying get back what that system once promised him by any means.
Falling Down... what a movie. What a movie. I watched it first as a teenager and now that I'm in my mid-30s I understand it even more than I could have ever imagined.
When you are 50 you will really connect with the storyline.
@@ottosump3356 When you’re 70 you’ll forget if you saw it before or not.
Yes! I was 19 when this movie came out. When I was it again in my 30s, I could really relate!
Same conclusions on my side. Society is shit ppl are projecting all kind of shit into you. So sometimes you can't do things right cause of all that.
@@ottosump3356 So true.
This movie just wouldn’t be made today, the twitter brigade would go into meltdown 😞
Someone hasn't heard of Joker yet :D
Just ignore Twitter, it's not the real world. You give these sjw people way too much importance
VC Donovan joker is nothing like this. :))) not to say joker isn’t amazing in its own right. But due to this generic cis white male this WOULD NOT be made. Alongside heavy controversially racial topics.
Yep.
It simply wouldn't be made aswell either... The screenwriters today are trash
This could be the live action version of Grand Theft Auto, but it really plays out Like Predator 2. A lone wolf blasting his way thru LA during a heat wave only to be taken out by a single cop at the end.
I love how this movie does a wonderful job of getting you to sympathize with this man because he’s mad about the same things you are but also shows what this anger will do to you.
This film is textbook how you write a proper protagonist and antagonist/antihero. Understand why they do it, but also it's clear why they have to be stopped, and who the good guy really is.
Movies aren't capable of that anymore because immoral nihilists are creating them.
@@JamesRDavenport I'm sick to death of people/writers who suddenly think they're philosophers because they got a rudimentary definition of Nihlism.
@@LeftytheGansterGremlin would you prefer pe-doh satanists instead?
@@sstrykert Nah, they're just as bad.
@@sstrykert You mean the entirety of Hollywood?
I wonder if anyone else noticed the foreshadowing in Michael Douglas seeing a bumper sticker that says "He died for our sins." in his character's introduction.
Good catch. I noticed the sticker but failed to make that connection.
@Andrew Jackson I'm 33, that ain't fuckin' 33. That is Michael Douglas playing a 40 something schlub.
Remember when movies were good and we could actually identify with the struggles being portrayed because the characters had depth and were dealt with as real people as opposed to being just a means of pushing a political message? Pepperridge farms remembers.
Quit listening to your classical music and get out here!!! (turns off I like big butts)
so do bartles and james. ahhh...good times.
I saw the movie as a teen and couldn't relate to Bill. Now, in my 40s, I totally understand and am empathetic to Bill
Once you realized that most all of what your parents, teachers, the media, the government, Walt Disney... have told you about how the world works, and your place in it, are damnable, utter lies. The truth is hard, man. But it sets you free.
"Hey man, they lie to everyone, they even lie to the fish!"
That's... still kinda true.
I never lied to a fish.....
the fish come up to the glass and I say "it's nice to see you but you realize you ain't never getting out of there right?" they just swim away content
the fish don't care, all their needs are attended to......but I won't lie to em.....
now chickens.....don't ya just wanna choke em?? ooh wait.....erm.....
actually that's a joke, chickens are decent people
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@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Hi fish ! What's your sign? Oh, never mind...
This film has long been one of my favourites. I first watched it as a teenager for the rampage aspect, but then as I got older understood the tones and commentary a lot more. It's an underrated classic.
This and Aliens. My 2 favorite movies.
I remember watching this movie when it first came out and recommending it to everybody I knew.
a 90's version of Fight Club almost. Both movies gave voice to the discontent of the ignored.
Funny how just about all the people associated with this channel share my taste in movies.
I grew up in L.A in the 1990s so this great movie is extra special. I remember the heat, the smog, the gangs, the traffic. We all wanted to go on a rampage. Classic movie.
Good thing all that went away...
I saw this as a kid and it’s always been one of the most memorable movies I’ve seen.
Michael Douglas said of all the roles hes played this is his favorite .
I've never been a huge fan of MD but I've always adored this film, and would def say this is his best role.
When I watch it I always see the character, not the actor.
This was probably the first... errr... let's say "complex" movie I've ever watched. I was just a teenager, maybe 15 or 16 at most. I rented it on VHS thinking it was an action movie. It caught me _totally_ off guard, and I _loved_ it.
"Falling down" was an underrated film. It is cinematically really very, very solid.
Bedrock solid, Emmet.
One of those rare gems from Hollywood where everything on every level is nailed....even the colour timing / grading is saying "It's hot n sticky".
Was it underrated? It's one of my favourite movies of all time.
Every man has a point in his life when they’re just one honk, one dirty look, or one fake smile away from losing their shit and snapping.
"Bleak and heartless concrete jungle..." Sounds like an acurate depiction on LA.
And most other urban areas around the developed world.
I live there. Pretty much. And getting worse by the day.
Filmmakers today should study this film and take note of its simplicity. No bloated casts or convoluted, meandering storylines. It is, as you said, damn-near perfect in its execution.
Filmmakers today are too focused on remakes of classic movies that never needed one and superhero trash movies with over-the-top special effects.
I found this movie through getting the clips recommended to me on RUclips, I'm glad because it's truly a underrated classic
Believe it or not but this film was my inspiration. I have had watched the first half of it on TV in the 90s. After about 10 years I have reached a breaking point similar to that of Bill in Falling Down. Pure rage and madness. The best couple weeks of my life. Fortunately, I have returned to the society and lived to watch the whole film to the end.
The end of the movie where he pulls out the water gun is brilliant,he was never willing to hurt anyone that didn't deserve it!
This part was emotionally very impactful to me...
I woulda gotcha :)
He did fire a rocket toward a bunch of road workers who were just doing their jobs.
@@RatatRatR he was just going to launch the rocket at the machinery, not at any workers, it misfired. Watched it today only
Either way, it's such reckless endangerment that he doesn't deserve to be talked about like he wasn't willing to hurt random strangers. It's a piece of military grade weaponry that he obviously knows very little about, and he's firing it out in the street in a crowd. He doesn't know that it's just going to hit equipment and not hurt anybody. He doesn't even know how to fire it. For all he knows, even if does just hit equipment, the equipment could explode and kill the whole crowd.
"The Critical Drinker recommends falling down"
_I'm going to just pencil that in for Friday night okay_
Me too except mine is midweek.
why doesn't anyone "pen" things in?? who cares if things change and you have to scratch the day and time out 10X you penned it in so you are doing it even if it's the day of the apocalypse......
[movie starts, first lines spoken]
[all hell breaks loose and you along with everyone die instantly]
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in an alternate reality you penciled it in, wait is this the alternate reality, the apocalypse reality or the original reality?? I forget, time paradoxes you see.....always have issues
Pencils are famously mutable, erasers are part of the reason pencils exist. They write, but easily mutable. Penmanship has more of an air of permanency.
@@darthkek1953 lolz you're likely being serious but damn if that's not funny....
@@darthkek1953 thank you for typing that out for me, I am an artist.
my girlfriend and I have been dating for over 20 years.
When i first heard of Joker, the first movie that came to mind was Falling Down, even if most people were only talking about Taxi Driver. Falling Down was a good movie, probably my favorite Michael Douglas movie, watched it countless times on tv during the 90's, brings nice memories.
+100% First one that I thought of, too.
One missing, The Count of Monte Christo.
@Nacho Libre Yes. I could barely get through Taxi Driver tbh. I've seen Falling Down more times than I care to attempt to count and own it.
Bet you watched basic instinct aswell, several times 😳😏
@Nacho Libre yeah I thought falling down was good but taxi driver was just okay
Not just a movie, but an anthem.
Never seen this, but even I couldn't help but nod at the "Don't forget me" line. Thats some damn powerful cinema right there! Holy shit...
People like Bill, that want society to remember them, to remember his outcry for “justice for the common man”, considering how bad society treated him, is so people remember how bad it feels to be beaten down by everyone. To be heard and seen. Instead of being another cog in everyday life, to be fired, or unfairly treated by his family that don’t understand his troubles, or don’t care to. The Detective, still choosing to help people as law enforcement, tells me: don’t remember these murderers and down trodden average people gone mad for the bad things they’ve done. Learn what brought them to that breaking point to prevent it from happening again. Bill’s rampage was just symptom of the stresses of everyday life and problems in the world that was the virus. The only way to stop said virus of anger and injustice against society from infecting poor people like Bill (at the beginning of the film), is to rectify those problems that caused his frustration.
when the guy says" don't forget me"" he's talking to all of us
He’s also dressed exactly like Michael Douglas’ character in that scene.
This movie is an exact mirror on society.... This and the joker.
Has anyone ever noticed that when D Fens walks up to the highway construction zone before using the rocket launcher…that the guy yelling out his car window that he punches 1:12, is the same (actor) guy that he confronts just seconds later 6:20 working construction