Amen brother!.. That is of course if the ex-wife hasn't taken that option away from you by way of undeserved alimony, then you should absolutely enjoy them both!.. And If not you can always take the kids away from her because she'll always appreciate them way more than the cars!. 😉😉😂😂😂😂
Very beautiful car both of them but if I had to choose I would take to hemi convertible being worth over 3 million dollars versus the boss only being worth about 300000
The boss 429 was overrated, slow, and pathetic, according to my uncle who is a mechanic, if it were me, I’d go with the 428 SCJ mustang or the chevelle SS with either the 454 or 396 big block V8s
Love'em both! I'd have to lean to the Mustang. The Boss is just a beautiful engine and with a 3.59" stroke, that's one factory big block that's not afraid to rev.
I’m a mopar guy but the 429 is far more rare than a hemi. Never seen one in good shape fetch under 200k. The challenger convertible tho, that’s a unicorn. It’s around 500k. With both being numbers matching, of course.
@@malikmcdowellswreckedatv5100 1970 hemi Challenger is rarer than a boss. 287 hard tops built. Only 9 convertibles... not 12 and one year only. No 1971s. This car is north of $2 million dollars!
Motor City Mike. so true it was a great time to grow up I had a 1970 442 with the w30 that I payed $700 dollars for,back then it was no big deal can you imagine , my girlfriend totaled it but it was no big deal these kinds of cars were everywhere in 1976 when I got my license
The Boss for me! My first new car was a 69 metallic blue 351 Mustang fastback. Bought it right after I got out of the Navy. THAT was a car and those were the days!! Would love to have them both back🌵
Mike Burke, Chrysler did make “some” sharp looking cars. But they did not make one with a sharp looking interior, Chrysler muscle car interiors suck.. when you bought a Chrysler you were lucky to make it home without a problem as well. I’ve heard many older car guys say that lol. I’m like you. I’ll take the BOSS!!
You need to disconnect the rev limiter , too .The 1969 had all the O rings in the head and it was very hard to r&r the heads in the car . The 1970 was easier and they also changed from the S to the T connecting rod . Rod length changed .
The Boss 'Stang is a great car, great collector with NASCAR roots, albeit homologated in the Mustang for just one year but intended for racing in the Talladega. BUT - There's no way in Detroit that I would pick it over the Hemi Challenger. The Hemi was the KING KONG of performance, with better performance from the factory for public use. The BOSS will never have the iconic "brute force" reputation the 426 had, and still has to this day.
I had a Charger from that year and I really loved it. The Challenger I always liked but the luxury of it was kind of a turnoff. For that matchup, and I'm a MoPar man here, but I'd have to go with the Boss 429.
Yeah, the Challenger R/T was more swank, and the Boss 429 more of a brute....but I'm not so sure about the comfort/luxury comparison. The Boss 429 in this video has the upgraded interior, virtually the same as the Mach 1. It was actually quite plush by musclecar standards and the seats are often regarded as among the best of the era, comfort-wise.
@@dalepeto9620 No, not even close. For starters, Dodge made the new Charger a four door. It doesn't even look like the old Chargers, which were two door cars. My ' 13 Mustang GT more resembles the old Mustangs, but are a little fatter. But then again, I'm fatter than I was back then as well.
A stock Hemi Cuda or Challenger would beat a stock Boss 429 by a pretty decent margin in the 1/4 mile. The Hemi E-Bodies ran very low 13's but the Boss9 ran low 14's. A 428 CJ Mustang with a 3.91 or 4.30 rear can beat a Boss9 in the 1/4 mile so a Boss9 doesnt have much of a chance against the Hemi. At least not in stock form. Lose the smog pump, install a bigger carb, headers, and a more aggressive camshaft and ignition curve and the Boss9 is an absolute MONSTER. A completely different car with just those few mods
@@jeremythompson9122 I agree the Hemi was much higher tuned. In stock trim it would easily outrun the Boss. As prepared for racing they were very close. That's why Chrysler went to the winged Daytona and Superbird.
Jeremy Thompson the Boss ‘9 isn’t, and never was a drag engine. It would run all day long compared to some others, as we all know it was designed for use in nascar, not drag racing. The logical choice for Ford would have been to put it in the Galaxie, but logic doesn’t generally come into play with performance cars...they wanted to have some fun with it. A Boss 302 would outrun it on a road course, and a Boss 351 would beat it in the 1/4, but the 429 just has that extra bit of mystique.
I owned Boss 429 KK2034 for over 30 years. I ran it with the original "820-T" factory engine and headers, later putting in an actual Holman and Moody spec NASCAR 429, with one of the twenty Super Stock (Mickey Thompson Drag program) original two four barrel intakes. The original motor was probably around 390 real flywheel horsepower - 735 cfm Holley and mild cam signed off at 6,000 rpm - the Boss 429 Mustang was, as noted, only sold to the public to make the engine legal for NASCAR. The HM NASCAR motor would easily keep pulling hard way past 7000 rpm (where I limited it), and with a 4000 lb car, full gas tank, me (250 lbs) would run 122 mph quarter miles on too small 10" Goodyears (that slide rules out to about 650 HP). Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins (of Chevrolet Pro Stock fame) after examining the design, stated it had more potential than ANY other big block engine - and Bob Glidden proved that - with years of domination of NHRA Pro Stock with his Thunderbird, and it had at least 50 horsepower over the 426 Hemi on the Super Speedways - which is why Chrysler built the Daytonas and Superbirds - to make up the shortage in streamlining. By the way, the Boss 429's were invoiced directly to Shelby American on the window sticker - which ticked off Carroll Shelby since they competed directly with his Shelby GT-500. Awesome road car, very comfortable and handled surprisingly well for so much forward weight. Miss it I do! Mike
I tend to agree. The Mustang got the Boss 429 as an afterthought. To the point Ford wasn't even involved in stuffing that engine in. The Dodge was engineered with a Hemi option from the start.
Mopars are my Favorite, but I would take that Mustang as well! I’ve always heard that both motors were underrated... My family had them both & a lot of others... We still have a few in the Family as well... Nothing in stock form though. I think y’all should put them on the dyno!!! Have Fun!!!
Challenger please! 429 Boss Mustang $550,000 per Barrett Jackson 426 Hemi Challenger convertable $2,000,000-$2,500,000 per Mecum. If you had a Challenger you could sell it and buy 4 or 5 Boss 429 Mustangs!
Hemi was a mutt on the street just the same, although slightly less. The hemi also dual quads while the boss used a teenzy 735 Holley while the baby B302 had a 780 Holley, funny huh. The exhaust manifolds are anemic on the 29 compared to the hemi as well, thanks to the shock towers. Cam specs were also tame. The B9 head with the monster intake port is more suited for a 460+” engine minimum not a 429. Give the boss the setup it deserved and it’s taking that 426’s lunch every time. It was a bad combo on fords part, not the engines fault. It easily would have been the top gun muscle car had ford done it justice. All just to try to make it more “streetable”
@@RacingRon47 I agree with you. The Boss 429 could have been the hottest muscle car ever built. The hardware and potential were there. As you pointed out Ford hamstrung the engine, with the intake, cam and exhaust. The 426 Hemi was also finicky and had to be well tuned to run its best as I said in my comment. A 440 six barrel did also. A well tuned Hemi was bad to the bone. And that was without replacing parts. No amount of tuning would make the Boss 429 run like the Hemi without changing some of the parts you mentioned.
A mutt? All you had to do was turn a few screws. Easy to bring big ponies. There both great cars but the Chally could be sold for enough to buy the boss and have enough left over for...whatever.
@@srt8rocketship241Turning a few screws wouldn't work on the Boss 429. You had to change out the cam, intake, and put on a set of headers. Which was unfortunate because Ford had everything else nailed. The Hemi was very finicky but as you said turning a few screws would work on it. A stock well tuned Hemi would make around 500hp at six grand. It has been proven many times.
@@shawnturbeville994 I was replying to the 426 being a mutt. LO23 Darts and CUDA's showed what a little tweaking could do back then. They banned this engine from SS racing because of Superior head design. Then after years the figured Ford and Chevy had caught up and let 'em back. Ray Barton with modern technology pulled a clean 100 more ponies out and the HEMI blew up the class again. Barton is the Elephant Man. That's my opinion along with many others. The 429 with Shotgun heads and all the supporting internals is a Beast as well. I like the SOHC with gear drive timing myself. That is a forgotten HEMI that had all the potential. Blame it's fate on Ford pulling the plug. My opinion as well.
SHOTGUN HEMI, the Boss 9 in a different league, just a more powerful street trim engine, ratings aside. They were stiffled right out the gate in the exhaust & carb department. You guys never even mention the BOSS NINE is also Hemi Head engine!? I've filmed a lot of HEMI Challengers, never a Boss 429 Mustang. Still a pretty cool video...
The Hemi no doubt. When I would tune cars at US 30 DRAGSTRIP and also great lakes Dragaway with my Grandfather we would get a HEMI CUDA OR A HEMI CHALLENGER, HEMI ROAD RUNNER, CHARGER, SUPER BEE, CHARGER DART BARRACUDA AND SO ON THEY WOULD RUN between 13.25-13.80. We would give them a HEMI TUNE, A REAL ONE. THE 13.20-13.40 cars would run in the 12.60s -12.70s bone STOCK. The 13.45 -13.80 cars would run 12.80s-12.99/13.05 or so. People say HEMI'S WERE A PAIN TO TUNE BUT THEY WERE NOT A PAIN. MY GRANDFATHER TAUGHT ME HOW TO TUNE THEM BY LOOKING AT THEM, IF THEY WERE SHAKING A LITTLE BIT TO LISTENING TO THE CAR RUN WHILE IDLING AND IF U WERE REAL LUCKY A SEASONED DRIVER WAS BEHIND THE WHEEL AND TELL YOU EVERYTHING. THE ONLY HARD PART IN THE 30 YRS FOR ME WAS MAKING SURE WE KEPT UP WITH THE CARS. THATS WHERE PEOPLE GOT THE IDEA IT WAS SO HARD FROM. THEY WOULD TUNE FOR A FEW WEEKENDS AND RUN LETS SAY 12.60S. THEN THEY WOULD BE IN A HURRY AND THEY WERE SLOPPY AND AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS WOULD TURN 13s. OTHER drivers and fans would see that and think that these guys could not keep them tuned right when In reality they did not want to do it That's why the numbers on HEMI CARS WOULD VARY WILDLY FOR BASICALLY THE SAME CARS. STOCK EVERYTHING HEMI'S WERE LOW TO MID 12 CARS ALL YEAR LONG IF YOU TUNED EM. TIMING, CARBS ADJUSTED, PLUGS ETC. I laughed to myself when I saw a HEMI GET OUT OF THE HOLE FINE BUT WHEN YOU GOT NEAR THE 1/8TH MILE AND That Engine did not start leaving other FACTORY engines in their mirrors??? If you understand them good you know the timing was off or those duel quads were choking. Those engines were amazing and 20-30 yrs ahead of their time!!!!
@@midgetman4206 I did very much. My grandfather gave me the gift of mopar muscle. Started at 9 after school and I'm 53 and still going😉 Sorry about the Caps. My phone stuck on that.
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@@midgetman4206 Thanks man. I love to talk cars to help young guys and girls and racers. I just hope when I'm working they can read that horrible texting lol. I appreciate you dealing with it
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That BOSS 429 is definitely my choice
Tough call, I like'm both. In situations like this, my advice is to go with a 2 car garage.
TheGunfighter45acp Good advice! 😆👍
Or better yet, a three car garage for a Camaro with a 396 or 427.
I'd agree
@@jacobeakright6387fuck you
Amen brother!.. That is of course if the ex-wife hasn't taken that option away from you by way of undeserved alimony, then you should absolutely enjoy them both!.. And If not you can always take the kids away from her because she'll always appreciate them way more than the cars!. 😉😉😂😂😂😂
I like the Boss429
I’d take the 1969 Boss 429
The Challenger is beautiful, but the Boss 9 Mustang is my choice here. .
I love both but the 429 is one of my all time dream cars, and that red is just amazing.
Hemi Challenger. But both are awesome old cars.
I love them both. But if I had to choose one I’m taking that Boss 429
Very beautiful car both of them but if I had to choose I would take to hemi convertible being worth over 3 million dollars versus the boss only being worth about 300000
The boss 429 was overrated, slow, and pathetic, according to my uncle who is a mechanic, if it were me, I’d go with the 428 SCJ mustang or the chevelle SS with either the 454 or 396 big block V8s
@@Jack-yw7bq - ya boss 429 dominated Nascar 68, 69 so much Richard Petty went to race for Ford he was tired of losing. Your uncle doesn’t know Jack
no dodge better
@@Jack-yw7bq 429 made 500+ horsepower stock. He doesn't know jack shit about cars
Love'em both! I'd have to lean to the Mustang. The Boss is just a beautiful engine and with a 3.59" stroke, that's one factory big block that's not afraid to rev.
I'd pick the 9, but the R/T is awesome.
I would take the BOSS 429 all day.
I'd usually pick a Mopar over a Ford, and a Hemi E body is incredible, but the 4 speed wins out. I'd have the Boss.
I'm a mopar man and had a 70 roadrunner, Coronet Challeger and now have a beautiful all original low miles 66 Charger.
Mustang Boss 429. But I would be happy with either one of these beast. 🤓
Boss 429 all the way!
I love both but that 429 Boss is just awesome looking
BOTH ARE ICONIC AND AWESOME!!! The DODGE being a convertible, makes my decision EASY.
I'll take the BOSS
like a boss
I’m a mopar guy but the 429 is far more rare than a hemi. Never seen one in good shape fetch under 200k. The challenger convertible tho, that’s a unicorn. It’s around 500k. With both being numbers matching, of course.
Why not both?
@@malikmcdowellswreckedatv5100 1970 hemi Challenger is rarer than a boss. 287 hard tops built. Only 9 convertibles... not 12 and one year only. No 1971s. This car is north of $2 million dollars!
I agree the Challenger Shamed the Boss’s name
The Mustang!
ABSOLUTELY 👍💯😊
Boss 9 all day long
I'll take the Boss everyday! BTW, I've driven both a '70 Hemi Cuda and a '70 Boss 429 when they were new back in the day.
We're the time machine parked?
Lucky bastard!
We elders of performance car days didn't know how good it was when we were Young!
Motor City Mike. so true it was a great time to grow up I had a 1970 442 with the w30 that I payed $700 dollars for,back then it was no big deal can you imagine , my girlfriend totaled it but it was no big deal these kinds of cars were everywhere in 1976 when I got my license
@@rockiemountin7535
Such a different world......
The Boss is my choice
1969 MUSTANG!
I'm getting old, I remember both cars when they were new. I liked the Boss then and would still pick it today.
The Mustang best looking muscle car ever made. And had the balls to back up the goods
Just for STYLE. The 1969 Mustang BOSS 429.👍👍👍👍👍
Thats my Dream car.I could have bought one in 1975 2,200 from a friend.I wish I had know.
Mustang, all day every day.
I’ll take the boss 429
Give me the BOSS!
Love them both, but I especially love the fastback look.
Tough choice but I'll go with the Boss 429.
Both sick whips; But I’d take the Boss 9 every day of the week and twice on Sunday!
The Boss for me! My first new car was a 69 metallic blue 351 Mustang fastback. Bought it right after I got out of the Navy. THAT was a car and those were the days!! Would love to have them both back🌵
I would choose the Boss 429. Always been a Mustang fan.
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429 👌🏻😍❤️
Boss 429, hands down.
Boss 9, all day every day.
Boss! All day, every day.
Don’t like convertibles but would take the Boss 429 any day.
Boss 9..its very good looking muscle car.
Although I love both models. And I can only pick one. I will take the BOSS.
The Boss . But love them both.
Boss 429 is the best looking out of all the muscle cars. just my opinion, but that means nothing. everyone has their favorite.
Mike Burks 1969 Boss 429 is my dream car 💪🏻
like I said everyone has an opinion, Chrysler did make some very sharp cars but everyone has a favorite.
Amen good sir!. Taste is purely "in the eyes of the beholder" for sure!. 🍻
Have a great Easter everyone and I hope you enjoy!. 🙏🙏
Mike Burke, Chrysler did make “some” sharp looking cars. But they did not make one with a sharp looking interior, Chrysler muscle car interiors suck.. when you bought a Chrysler you were lucky to make it home without a problem as well. I’ve heard many older car guys say that lol. I’m like you. I’ll take the BOSS!!
The Boss 9 Represents a VERY COOL wall to wall Hemi in One of the Most Beautiful non Shelby Mustangs of all time ! The iconic 69 sportsroof !! YES....
By they way it not a Hemi unless it is built by Chrysler as they trademarked the name. It is just called hemispherical combustion
@@noneyabusiness7053 Hemi= Hemispherical combustion Chamber. So what's your point?
The Boss 429. With a 800cfm carb. 1970 429scj cam. No smog pump and 60,000 volt ignition system. 1970 lighter rotating assembly.
That's exactly how the BOSS 429 should've left the factory
You need to disconnect the rev limiter , too .The 1969 had all the O rings in the head and it was very hard to r&r the heads in the car . The 1970 was easier and they also changed from the S to the T connecting rod . Rod length changed .
And get rid of the semi hemi heads for real hemi heads like the race versions had
And cut the value in half by doing so
The boss 429 all day
Both great looking cars though I'd the challenger
Challenger for me, horsepower ...
1970 challenger is my dream car😎💪
BOSS 429 !!!
All Day!!
Boss 429 simply beautiful
BOSS for sure!!!
Love them both but its the stang for me
Die hard Mustang guy here, fifty years strong - but I'm even a bigger fan of the '70 Challenger. Going with the ragtop.
Damn. ..tough choice , i absolutely love both of these cars , but if I can't take both of them I'd have to take the Boss 429.
The Boss 'Stang is a great car, great collector with NASCAR roots, albeit homologated in the Mustang for just one year but intended for racing in the Talladega.
BUT - There's no way in Detroit that I would pick it over the Hemi Challenger. The Hemi was the KING KONG of performance, with better performance from the factory for public use. The BOSS will never have the iconic "brute force" reputation the 426 had, and still has to this day.
BOSS 429 hands down!!!!
I'll take that 429 any time of the week! Looks great
I gotta go with the manual transmission.
I had a Charger from that year and I really loved it. The Challenger I always liked but the luxury of it was kind of a turnoff. For that matchup, and I'm a MoPar man here, but I'd have to go with the Boss 429.
I will take the Boss 429 please.
I want a 69 Mustang boss 429 I hope while I am still young enough to still drive it
Save yo pennies lol.
Yeah, the Challenger R/T was more swank, and the Boss 429 more of a brute....but I'm not so sure about the comfort/luxury comparison. The Boss 429 in this video has the upgraded interior, virtually the same as the Mach 1. It was actually quite plush by musclecar standards and the seats are often regarded as among the best of the era, comfort-wise.
With performance being similar, I prefer the looks of the Mustang. A Hemi Cuda hardtop would have made the decision more difficult.
My new Charger looks similar to the Boss. Agree?
@@dalepeto9620 No, not even close. For starters, Dodge made the new Charger a four door. It doesn't even look like the old Chargers, which were two door cars. My ' 13 Mustang GT more resembles the old Mustangs, but are a little fatter. But then again, I'm fatter than I was back then as well.
A stock Hemi Cuda or Challenger would beat a stock Boss 429 by a pretty decent margin in the 1/4 mile. The Hemi E-Bodies ran very low 13's but the Boss9 ran low 14's. A 428 CJ Mustang with a 3.91 or 4.30 rear can beat a Boss9 in the 1/4 mile so a Boss9 doesnt have much of a chance against the Hemi. At least not in stock form. Lose the smog pump, install a bigger carb, headers, and a more aggressive camshaft and ignition curve and the Boss9 is an absolute MONSTER. A completely different car with just those few mods
@@jeremythompson9122 I agree the Hemi was much higher tuned. In stock trim it would easily outrun the Boss. As prepared for racing they were very close. That's why Chrysler went to the winged Daytona and Superbird.
Jeremy Thompson the Boss ‘9 isn’t, and never was a drag engine. It would run all day long compared to some others, as we all know it was designed for use in nascar, not drag racing. The logical choice for Ford would have been to put it in the Galaxie, but logic doesn’t generally come into play with performance cars...they wanted to have some fun with it. A Boss 302 would outrun it on a road course, and a Boss 351 would beat it in the 1/4, but the 429 just has that extra bit of mystique.
omg, boss 29, every single time...
I owned Boss 429 KK2034 for over 30 years. I ran it with the original "820-T" factory engine and headers, later putting in an actual Holman and Moody spec NASCAR 429, with one of the twenty Super Stock (Mickey Thompson Drag program) original two four barrel intakes. The original motor was probably around 390 real flywheel horsepower - 735 cfm Holley and mild cam signed off at 6,000 rpm - the Boss 429 Mustang was, as noted, only sold to the public to make the engine legal for NASCAR. The HM NASCAR motor would easily keep pulling hard way past 7000 rpm (where I limited it), and with a 4000 lb car, full gas tank, me (250 lbs) would run 122 mph quarter miles on too small 10" Goodyears (that slide rules out to about 650 HP). Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins (of Chevrolet Pro Stock fame) after examining the design, stated it had more potential than ANY other big block engine - and Bob Glidden proved that - with years of domination of NHRA Pro Stock with his Thunderbird, and it had at least 50 horsepower over the 426 Hemi on the Super Speedways - which is why Chrysler built the Daytonas and Superbirds - to make up the shortage in streamlining. By the way, the Boss 429's were invoiced directly to Shelby American on the window sticker - which ticked off Carroll Shelby since they competed directly with his Shelby GT-500.
Awesome road car, very comfortable and handled surprisingly well for so much forward weight. Miss it I do! Mike
Can't wait to have my '70 Challenger in as good a condition as this one.
Wouldn't you love to open your garage to see these beautiful cars in there.
BOSS Everytime
Nothing could ever beat a Hemi if you ask me
I'LL PICK THE FORD MUSTANG BOSS 429!
Both beautiful cars but I’ll say this about the 429 engine. It made Richard Petty switch to Ford in NASCAR.
Challenger hands down. Sister had a new '70 440 6-pack. Red with white interior. Pistol grip, 4.10 rear. Long gone
Bet that thing broke down all the time lol
I tend to agree. The Mustang got the Boss 429 as an afterthought. To the point Ford wasn't even involved in stuffing that engine in. The Dodge was engineered with a Hemi option from the start.
@@R-8.0Ford is the least reliable of ALL manufacturers JUNK
VERY hard decision but for me the Boss 9 takes it by a hair.
I'll take the BOSS 9 any day .
Of these two cars on the video, Mustang w/o doubt.
Boss 429 for me!!
Mopars are my Favorite, but I would take that Mustang as well! I’ve always heard that both motors were underrated... My family had them both & a lot of others... We still have a few in the Family as well... Nothing in stock form though. I think y’all should put them on the dyno!!! Have Fun!!!
Boss all the way
Challenger please!
429 Boss Mustang $550,000 per Barrett Jackson
426 Hemi Challenger convertable $2,000,000-$2,500,000 per Mecum.
If you had a Challenger you could sell it and buy 4 or 5 Boss 429 Mustangs!
Semi hemi boss 429 all day!
I'm building a 408w sn95! Love your channel
@@CanIbeFrank Thanks! I wish I could find more of my videos! Soon to come 427 stroker build...once I find another cobra...
‘69 Boss 9 is my favorite looking car of the muscle era, and the Boss 9 is my favorite engine of the era. Double whammy
The Hemi Challenger of course. not that the Mustang Boss 429 is a slouch, but the R/T just exemplifies class .
Boss is just something else 😻
The challenger looks confident
The Boss 429 had the pedigree and hardware, but a stock one wouldn't fall out of a tree. A well tuned Hemi would back up the reputation it had.
Hemi was a mutt on the street just the same, although slightly less. The hemi also dual quads while the boss used a teenzy 735 Holley while the baby B302 had a 780 Holley, funny huh. The exhaust manifolds are anemic on the 29 compared to the hemi as well, thanks to the shock towers. Cam specs were also tame. The B9 head with the monster intake port is more suited for a 460+” engine minimum not a 429. Give the boss the setup it deserved and it’s taking that 426’s lunch every time. It was a bad combo on fords part, not the engines fault. It easily would have been the top gun muscle car had ford done it justice. All just to try to make it more “streetable”
@@RacingRon47 I agree with you. The Boss 429 could have been the hottest muscle car ever built. The hardware and potential were there. As you pointed out Ford hamstrung the engine, with the intake, cam and exhaust. The 426 Hemi was also finicky and had to be well tuned to run its best as I said in my comment. A 440 six barrel did also. A well tuned Hemi was bad to the bone. And that was without replacing parts. No amount of tuning would make the Boss 429 run like the Hemi without changing some of the parts you mentioned.
A mutt? All you had to do was turn a few screws. Easy to bring big ponies. There both great cars but the Chally could be sold for enough to buy the boss and have enough left over for...whatever.
@@srt8rocketship241Turning a few screws wouldn't work on the Boss 429. You had to change out the cam, intake, and put on a set of headers. Which was unfortunate because Ford had everything else nailed. The Hemi was very finicky but as you said turning a few screws would work on it. A stock well tuned Hemi would make around 500hp at six grand. It has been proven many times.
@@shawnturbeville994 I was replying to the 426 being a mutt. LO23 Darts and CUDA's showed what a little tweaking could do back then. They banned this engine from SS racing because of Superior head design. Then after years the figured Ford and Chevy had caught up and let 'em back. Ray Barton with modern technology pulled a clean 100 more ponies out and the HEMI blew up the class again. Barton is the Elephant Man. That's my opinion along with many others. The 429 with Shotgun heads and all the supporting internals is a Beast as well. I like the SOHC with gear drive timing myself. That is a forgotten HEMI that had all the potential. Blame it's fate on Ford pulling the plug. My opinion as well.
i be honored to own either one. that mustang looks fast standing still.
Im usually a Ford guy but that Challenger takes the crown.
Kevin, this was the best episode of MCOT I’ve ever seen. Well Done
SHOTGUN HEMI, the Boss 9 in a different league, just a more powerful street trim engine, ratings aside. They were stiffled right out the gate in the exhaust & carb department. You guys never even mention the BOSS NINE is also Hemi Head engine!? I've filmed a lot of HEMI Challengers, never a Boss 429 Mustang. Still a pretty cool video...
69 boss, without pause or hesitation!
Triple black boss 9 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
The Hemi no doubt.
When I would tune cars at US 30 DRAGSTRIP
and also great lakes Dragaway with my Grandfather we would get a HEMI CUDA OR A HEMI CHALLENGER, HEMI ROAD RUNNER, CHARGER, SUPER BEE,
CHARGER DART BARRACUDA AND SO ON THEY WOULD RUN between 13.25-13.80.
We would give them a HEMI TUNE, A REAL ONE.
THE 13.20-13.40 cars would run in the 12.60s -12.70s bone STOCK. The 13.45 -13.80 cars would run 12.80s-12.99/13.05 or so.
People say HEMI'S WERE A PAIN TO TUNE BUT THEY WERE NOT A PAIN.
MY GRANDFATHER TAUGHT ME HOW TO TUNE THEM BY LOOKING AT THEM, IF THEY WERE SHAKING A LITTLE BIT TO LISTENING TO THE CAR RUN WHILE IDLING AND IF U WERE REAL LUCKY A SEASONED DRIVER WAS BEHIND THE WHEEL AND TELL YOU EVERYTHING.
THE ONLY HARD PART IN THE 30 YRS FOR ME WAS MAKING SURE WE KEPT UP WITH THE CARS. THATS WHERE PEOPLE GOT THE IDEA IT WAS SO HARD FROM.
THEY WOULD TUNE FOR A FEW WEEKENDS AND RUN LETS SAY 12.60S. THEN THEY WOULD BE IN A HURRY AND THEY WERE SLOPPY AND AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS WOULD TURN 13s. OTHER drivers and fans would see that and think that these guys could not keep them tuned right when In reality they did not want to do it
That's why the numbers on HEMI CARS WOULD VARY WILDLY FOR BASICALLY THE SAME CARS.
STOCK EVERYTHING HEMI'S WERE LOW TO MID 12 CARS ALL YEAR LONG IF YOU TUNED EM. TIMING, CARBS ADJUSTED, PLUGS ETC.
I laughed to myself when I saw a HEMI GET OUT OF THE HOLE FINE BUT WHEN YOU GOT NEAR THE 1/8TH MILE AND That Engine did not start leaving other FACTORY engines in their mirrors??? If you understand them good you know the timing was off or those duel quads were choking.
Those engines were amazing and 20-30 yrs ahead of their time!!!!
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I did very much. My grandfather gave me the gift of mopar muscle. Started at 9 after school and I'm 53 and still going😉
Sorry about the Caps. My phone stuck on that.
I'm also sorry about the punctuation.
I was rebuilding a 727 torqeflight at the time. Actually I still am.
It's my business so I need to build the transmission right but punctuation can be apologized for.
@@soxfunny98 no problem
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Thanks man. I love to talk cars to help young guys and girls and racers. I just hope when I'm working they can read that horrible texting lol.
I appreciate you dealing with it
Boss 429 my pick
Boss9 for me
Boss 429
Mustang without a doubt.
They are both lovely. I'd go for the Stang.
The Boss, always wanted a Boss 302 but got a 66 GTO back on the day
Mopar or no car! Hail Kev!
Nothing better than an ultra rare car. But with a production of only 12 made , I would have to say the Challenger R/ T is the way to go for me.
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