@@Nikketmzee you need to watch playoff basketball. Murray in the bubble and in the 2023 run was playing like first team all NBA. Beyond just all star level. And then MPJ is tough to guard.
One MAJOR thing that NOBODY takes into consideration is that the Knicks lost Hartenstein = who was a major part of the defense 🤔 So it's not only Randle & Donte for KAT - it's really 3 players that were "lost", that had to be "made up for"
That’s an absolutely ridiculous take by Fat Joe but he probably only saying that for click bait or to trend cuz last time I checked Jokic still played basketball
We've always known Joe tells the best stories. Saying that KAT is the best offensive big man ever is clearly proof that's true! 😂 I respect Joe, but it goes without saying that this is wild wrong! Lol
Its easier to have an offensive game in this era where the rules are more relaxed, the game is softer and theres no defense being played. Theres no "center" in this era im taking over Patrick Ewing, and he was probably the 4th best center of the 90's ...
Kat is 7 feet shooting better from 3 than your favorite guard and dunking on centers. His passing underrated and his post game elite, there isn’t a spot on the floor he can’t score from.
1:23 Duncan had everyone fearing the off the glass bank deposits every single night. Top 3 greatest big men offensively easy even with Joey cracks heavy 10 move 🧢
This is what people mean when they say terms such as 🐐 is overused. Even if you’re a victim of recency bias and want to exclude someone like Dirk…. *NIKOLA JOKIC IS LIVE AND HERE IN PRESENT DAY!!!*
Joe stop stop stopppppp I’m a super Knicks fan and u not going to sit here and say KAT is goat big man like we forgetting Joker and Dirk Shaq coño Joe be pissing me off lol
Greatest Offensive Big Men 1. Hakeem 2. Shaq 3. Kareem 3. KG 4. Duncan 5. AD 6. Embiid 7. Jokic 8. Barkley 9. Dirk 10. Wilt 11. Giannis 12. Chris Webber 13. Boogie Cousins 14. Amare 15. David Robinson 16. Karl Malone 17. Lamar Odom 18. Pau 19. Kevin Love 20. Chris Bosh 21. Rasheed Wallace 22. Arvydas Sabonis 61st.... Karl Anthony Towns 😂
@magiadelingles9832 Respectfully, naaaaahhh!! if ANY of the retired players on this list were playing today, they would SMOKE NBA defenses as well as KAT's numbers. And the players on this list who are playing now have already made their mark as being more unstoppable than KAT is on offense. AND they have to spend more energy than KAT does leading their teams in other ways. Giannis, Jokic, and Embiid all have more responsibility than Karl does and still get buckets!
Thats a bad list how tf do you have ad kg and embiid over jokic offensively?? hahahahahahahahahahahahahajajajajajajajajajajaja jokic is clearly the greatest offensive big man of all time jokic the only big who has no weaknes offensively
@@gfs8957 greatest big of all time?!? Smh the recency bias is CRAZY for all you jokic stans. Hakeem was light years better! And played better defense. Not to mention Timmy D. Oh and these guys played in an era of solid bigs who could defend. Jokic plays against guards who are playing the 4 and 5 position, he should be cooling them. Look at what he does anytime he plays Embiid.
I love KAT, that's a little bit of a reckless take though Joe. You think his offense is better than Hakeem's and Shaq's let me know when he gets a triple teamed before he even has the ball. Now I don't expect Joe to remember Wilt (I don't) but you can know he AVERAGED FIFTY !!! Lean back Joe, WAY back.
Not really crazy fr. Only a couple guys in the category of course joker is best big but KAT and AD really only other two that have EVERYTHING when it come to buckets. Post work, mid range, Trey ball, put ball on the deck. kat top 5 offensively ever
Can’t cap maybe it’s different when you watch on TV than in person… Butttt KAT is ultra special definitely at least Ewing level but I’m back and front on him
Pretty sure he said most skilled offensively… he’s more skilled than Shaw offensively… Shaw was more dominant but Kat got way more offensive moves… Did you even listen to him talk? Lol
Why do we give these uneducated ball-knowers space to talk about this man? Bro is saying crazy stuff like this, and what really pissed me off was when he was talking about how he cried when Barrett and Quick got traded because he didn't know who OG was. Disrespectful.
so fat joe didn't saw a lot of games then. Dirk Nowitzki offensively is still lightyears ahead from KAT. Offensively, Chris Webber and Yi Jianlian was also might be better than KAT.
Thanks Fat Joe. KAT is in that category and conversation hands down! He is an offensive phenom just incredible. We just need him to stay healthy and continue to build good synergy with his team mates. The league will have to pay attention to Big Fella💪🏾
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You ain't sat and watched Jokic LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Talking bout murray who’s never been an all star
How he gon disrespect Jokic like that he having the greatest statistical season rn
@@Nikketmzee like KAT hadn't played with Jimmy Butler, Anthony Edwards
@@Nikketmzee you need to watch playoff basketball. Murray in the bubble and in the 2023 run was playing like first team all NBA. Beyond just all star level. And then MPJ is tough to guard.
Kat offensive bag is way deeper bro 😂
Timberwolves fan here, love seeing KAT respect
The Dirk disrespect is wild. Post, mid, 3, face up. Bruh.
Toughest ring
@@otislamar8613 By FAR!!!
He was not a big he was a PF
Talk about it…lol.
Dirk not considered a big bro
jokic is galaxies ahead but i like the thinking.
Your opinion but not
No matter how much basketball fat Joe has watched, you can tell he still doesn’t understand the game. Respectfully
I agree, ain't no way he thinks Carl Anthony Town is the best offensive big man ever ain't no way. He is not even the best right now
Hakeem’s bag was deeper than KAT’s…period!
False
@@Batman3488 let’s have a friendly discussion. Tell me what KAT does better than Hakeem. I’ll go first…Hakeem’s footwork was better.
There's a man named Hakeem Olajuwon buddy. Let's not forget about him!!
And Patrick Ewing the guy who played both sides of the ball.
The Mitchell Robinson stray was wild😂
Offensively he’s really only below Jokic as far as a big
Kat's efficiency is crazy
Most ridiculous thing I've heard this year
One MAJOR thing that NOBODY takes into consideration is that the Knicks lost Hartenstein = who was a major part of the defense 🤔 So it's not only Randle & Donte for KAT - it's really 3 players that were "lost", that had to be "made up for"
Good point but then again we didn’t lose anybody for bridges
That’s an absolutely ridiculous take by Fat Joe but he probably only saying that for click bait or to trend cuz last time I checked Jokic still played basketball
And you know that… the problem is none of US regular citizens are causing hell about these takes
He said he gonna get crucified
Best 3 point shooting center ever...but thats it at best
Melo is right its those two things that have him playing so well
Not surprised Melo said "F Defense". 😂
he doesn’t come high enough to dust off Tim Duncans slippers
#GoSpursGo
The ozempic getting to his head...
MELO 🎉# 7
GREATEST KNICKS PLAYER EVER
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Joe your buggin..yea Kat is nice offensively but to act like he better than Hakeem , Ewing , Robinson and shaq and Jokic is crazy ….he is delusional…
Idk, offensive big... I'd take Bosh, Jokic, Yao, Pau, Sheed, Dirk, or The original stretch big Bob Macadoo over KAT
Shred and dirk weren’t big men… Bosh? Gtfo your credibility goes out the window and Yao didn’t even play enough seasons to be in consideration
Calling KAT the goat big man after he spends a couple months on the Knicks is the most New York thing ever lmao
Wobbling now is crazy work😂😂😂
We've always known Joe tells the best stories. Saying that KAT is the best offensive big man ever is clearly proof that's true! 😂
I respect Joe, but it goes without saying that this is wild wrong! Lol
Its easier to have an offensive game in this era where the rules are more relaxed, the game is softer and theres no defense being played. Theres no "center" in this era im taking over Patrick Ewing, and he was probably the 4th best center of the 90's ...
He not better then AD ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Naw kat better than Ad and faster
And healthier
Ad soft asf!...kat soft to tho🤣🤣
@@kingmight633AD is a better defender and a better shot blocker
@@trippymane4266gotta kill that narrative he not a tough guy but he not soft
I believe KAT has a case but we have to wait until the end of his career. Championships will give him the boost he needs.
maybe not a great defender but he did a good job on Jokic last year, which is no easy task
Im a knick fan but Embid got that game too
2:38 Lol
Nah he on AD level when you think about it, Joker is ahead by far and Embiid is still better (on paper)
Kat is 7 feet shooting better from 3 than your favorite guard and dunking on centers. His passing underrated and his post game elite, there isn’t a spot on the floor he can’t score from.
He's basically saying KAT got more moves for a big man
When Kat said he was the best shooter EVERYONE clowned him. Now he’s the best offensive player and ppl agree 😂🤣😂🤣
Joey Crack must’ve been drinking before he come onto the podcast😂
KAT is nice. But cmon AD Joker and Giannas will flush him
Giannis is not a center dumbass
1:23 Duncan had everyone fearing the off the glass bank deposits every single night. Top 3 greatest big men offensively easy even with Joey cracks heavy 10 move 🧢
This is what people mean when they say terms such as 🐐 is overused. Even if you’re a victim of recency bias and want to exclude someone like Dirk….
*NIKOLA JOKIC IS LIVE AND HERE IN PRESENT DAY!!!*
i used to see fat joe pull up to coney island by himself to watch people play street ball no lie
Joe stop stop stopppppp I’m a super Knicks fan and u not going to sit here and say KAT is goat big man like we forgetting Joker and Dirk Shaq coño Joe be pissing me off lol
He is motivating KAT
Jokic is the best purely off his passing and running the offense. No big has ever done that
Now everyone forgot about Joel SMH 🤣
Jok, Mikel, Brunson, OG, Hart vs Kat,AG, CB, MPJ, Jamal ok lets trade Jok 1 to 1, i feel Knicks org and fans will not think a milisec about it
Joey crack smoking crack… Kat is NOT the best offensive big man, not even close. Kat is a very good player though.
Greatest Offensive Big Men
1. Hakeem
2. Shaq
3. Kareem
3. KG
4. Duncan
5. AD
6. Embiid
7. Jokic
8. Barkley
9. Dirk
10. Wilt
11. Giannis
12. Chris Webber
13. Boogie Cousins
14. Amare
15. David Robinson
16. Karl Malone
17. Lamar Odom
18. Pau
19. Kevin Love
20. Chris Bosh
21. Rasheed Wallace
22. Arvydas Sabonis
61st.... Karl Anthony Towns 😂
Lmfao I get that alot of players are better than Kat, but offensively? He can make a case for top 15
Offensively he's better than a lot of them
@magiadelingles9832 Respectfully, naaaaahhh!! if ANY of the retired players on this list were playing today, they would SMOKE NBA defenses as well as KAT's numbers. And the players on this list who are playing now have already made their mark as being more unstoppable than KAT is on offense. AND they have to spend more energy than KAT does leading their teams in other ways. Giannis, Jokic, and Embiid all have more responsibility than Karl does and still get buckets!
Thats a bad list how tf do you have ad kg and embiid over jokic offensively?? hahahahahahahahahahahahahajajajajajajajajajajaja jokic is clearly the greatest offensive big man of all time jokic the only big who has no weaknes offensively
@@gfs8957 greatest big of all time?!? Smh the recency bias is CRAZY for all you jokic stans. Hakeem was light years better! And played better defense. Not to mention Timmy D. Oh and these guys played in an era of solid bigs who could defend. Jokic plays against guards who are playing the 4 and 5 position, he should be cooling them. Look at what he does anytime he plays Embiid.
no matter how it turns out, enjoy the honeymoon.
I love KAT, that's a little bit of a reckless take though Joe. You think his offense is better than Hakeem's and Shaq's let me know when he gets a triple teamed before he even has the ball. Now I don't expect Joe to remember Wilt (I don't) but you can know he AVERAGED FIFTY !!! Lean back Joe, WAY back.
Wonder if he Kat qualifies if we say something more specific like skilled scorer? But Dirk, Jokic, Hakeem?
3-pt shooter? Yeah.
Not really crazy fr. Only a couple guys in the category of course joker is best big but KAT and AD really only other two that have EVERYTHING when it come to buckets. Post work, mid range, Trey ball, put ball on the deck. kat top 5 offensively ever
Karl Anthony is goat of basketball 🏀 🐐 💯 🙌 🙌 🙌
KAT need to change his jersey number to 5 cuz I'ma call him KATegory 5, jus like i call Brunson, Brunson burner
HELL IS SKINNY JOE TALKING BOUT… This Knicks PLAY DEFENSE
Kat is a is a super Star .!!!!
Got love for Joe but no Mitch Rob disrespect will be tolerated lol.
I love KAT and yeah he's up there, but....
It's comments like this one where it's a complete waste of damn time and breath to debate.
Can’t cap maybe it’s different when you watch on TV than in person… Butttt KAT is ultra special definitely at least Ewing level but I’m back and front on him
So I guess Shaq never played in the nba? Stay of the glue Joe...
Pretty sure he said most skilled offensively… he’s more skilled than Shaw offensively… Shaw was more dominant but Kat got way more offensive moves… Did you even listen to him talk? Lol
Shaq*
Mero is gone?
Why do we give these uneducated ball-knowers space to talk about this man? Bro is saying crazy stuff like this, and what really pissed me off was when he was talking about how he cried when Barrett and Quick got traded because he didn't know who OG was. Disrespectful.
I'm guessing Shaq is a afterthought now 🤷
Oh LORD JOE 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️, you are CLUELESS on this one. This guy would enter top 10 centers of all time.
Kat should of left years ago he could always ball but he was in the wolves, hope Ant learn and leave early
Joe just talking
To me Kat not better then Embid or Anthony Davis💯🤷🏿
I love Fat Joe & we are die hard Knicks fans but he’s wrong on this one. Kat not better than Hakeem, he played both ends of the court.
Cap cap cap 😂
There’s a man with the last name Jokic thats better
Fat Joe knows ball that’s all I got say
so fat joe didn't saw a lot of games then. Dirk Nowitzki offensively is still lightyears ahead from KAT. Offensively, Chris Webber and Yi Jianlian was also might be better than KAT.
Okay, Fat Joe haven’t watched enough basketball!!! Ain’t no way - KAT is good but not the greatest
DiVincheko
Trippin, he's not even as good as Sheed
Fat Joe officially lost all his credibility.
DiVinchecko
I’m gotta take prime Amare over kat! Stat!🗽💪🏼
I love KAT! But he isn't the greatest scoring big man fat Joe as ever seen lol. There's plenty of big man better
Hakeen no defs.... easy
Joey stick to rap
All NY fans credibility shot after this garbage
Thanks Fat Joe. KAT is in that category and conversation hands down! He is an offensive phenom just incredible. We just need him to stay healthy and continue to build good synergy with his team mates. The league will have to pay attention to Big Fella💪🏾
Da knicks should try to get jimmy butler
Braindead take