As a spark of over 20 years, you are very fair and a great tradesman, prices are dependant on the area, I’m in Cambridge but we don’t charge anywhere near what some claim to be charging…. Great videos, definitely the best sparky content on RUclips 👍
Correct again! Also, if you think that rewiring adds value(or prevents value being removed during sale - generally more than you spent, especially with inflation) then the rewire is practically free as all the electrician has done is take your cash and converted it into equity in an appreciable asset. It's win win.
There's never a correct price to suit the owner or the tradesman. As an Electrician for 40 years I've always worked on an hourly rate plus supplies. Give them a figure with variables and always stipulate on paper what you are doing.
I wouldn't bother i'd just charge by the hour and estimate more or less how many hours i think it'll take warning the customer that it might end up being a few more, if it ends up being a lot more then i'd take it on the chin and cap it but that's me
As someone who works in procurement, I won't be interested if I don't have a breakdown quote. In the same way that a miscalculation costs you money, most of the time lazy calculations cost money to the customer. A breakdown price implies that you took the time to make the numbers and you have done the calculations to reach that number. In that way, it is fair for the supplier and it is fair for the customer.
That’s seems cheap to me and also doesn’t account for occupied. I will always charge more for occupied because it’s a lot more work. You literally lose at least 2/3 hours a day.
Thank you for this content, I'm looking to buy a house this year and it's quite likely to be something that needs modernisation. Good to know what I need to think about if my chosen property needs more sockets and/or rewiring.
I'm not so sure that moving the CU makes sense, given that a fire is so so unlikely (whilst "loose wires cause fires", i rekon you have more chance of winning the lottery)
I didn’t say it was wrong?……first thing I inform the customer is how terrible an 8KW shower is for what it’s worth install 10mm, how many times have you told a customer they can’t have a more powerful shower fitted because of the 6mm feed? It happens quite often, a lot of customers have regrets about 6mm or being uninformed and why to save a few pounds on cable?? installation method C is also becoming less common as properties are generally adding more insulation. So I ask again….are sure 6mm is your choice 🤔
Yes, it's allowed - however you need a sufficient incoming supply. In the UK most houses have a single phase, 60-100A service at 230V (230*60 = 13,800W/13.8KW, 230*100 = 23,000/23KW). An electric shower uses around 10KW of a concurrent draw, if you were to run two at the same time you'd be looking at concurrent draw of 20KW, that's not even considering the maximum potential draw etc. The way to get a bigger incoming supply would be to talk to the DNO (district network operator) and request an upgrade to 3-phase - the cost of this will vary, depending on several factors.
@@hiddenidentity8291 why electric showers? Is there no boiler available at the house? I'm.from oz and our systems are rather simple. I have been over here in U.K. for 7 years. Doing commercial construction work and industrial.
I'm trying to pick up some more tips on how the domestic works. For instance ring finals ect and Eicr. I recently did the testing course and we didn't have anything like it
You seem to be pricing pretty low for a data point. Given how error prone they can be. I presume you're also talking about the cable run, but what about endpoint termination? Are you terminating to RJ45, or patch panel? £45 seems a little low for any of this. I'd much rather fit power sockets all day then networking if the cost is lower. Is this due to competition? Sorry.... Lots of questions.
@@NBundyElectrical Appreciate the response as always lad. Buuut "these aren't my exact prices, but it aint a far off" I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, nor hopefully seen as tekkin' piss.... £45 (or whatever is close these days) is very low. I've just done my house out in CAT6, and it takes me about three times as long as it would to do a power socket per ethernet socket. Even if its a dual port, you still have to punch down two cables, so in total 16 wires then need to be done perfectly to get 1Gbps. Now I aint saying charge £135, but £45 (or close to) is low. I would put ethernet ports at about £80 each.
What jobs are open to someone with a C&G level 2 diploma. If you can give a short list, it would be much appreciated. Thanks and really enjoyed watching many of your videos.
Just looked at the quotes I had before you did my place. One guy sent me a breakdown like what you show. £85 per downlight! Feels a bit much given that was labour only pre VAT too 😬
Must be taking the piss, 85 for a downlight? Just install your own downlights then... i mean electricians are stunned to find DIY stuff but then they charge people exorbitant rates for work so what do you expect, people aren't all rich
You’d just stick a 10mm in to future proof it wouldn’t you. That’s what myself and most sparks I know have always done. Each to their own though I guess
East midlands here and one guy will quote you £6k and another £12k, One will also turn up with a notebook and pen, the other with a top of the range iPad pro lol.
@@dangranet7621 I’m very booked up with rewires and other work. I keep my overheads low to give good value and win jobs. I’m NICEIC. But don’t bother with any other badges, storage premises, fancy vans and such. I use my house garage. I’m sure a lot of prices I see on here are high due to extra overheads I’d not bother with.
Is this a full chase ? I’d say £1750 for a rewire ( as a 3 bed semi and smaller shouldn’t take any longer then 5 days ) is a very reasonable price , no wonder you a stacked with work - all’s I can say is if you can afford it then Fantastic. I just could not be bothered with the hassle then anything less then 5k - 8k for a 5 day rewire.
@@dangranet7621 yea we have a metabo chaser. I know I undercut a lot of local competition. Usually I ask what they have been quoted and can usually better it and make more than my usual rates. No VAT either. Keep away!! But it’s deffo low overheads that help. However rising fuel costs are biting.
Firemen in america use these cool "extinguisher ball" that are thrown in fire, and they explode and throw fire extinguishing material everywhere. Why can't we just put small chocolate bars like that inside fusebox, and when the fusebox catches on fire, BLAM, puts it out. Why isn't that done? :(
.... Hmmm... How come there aren't safety breakers for the switchboards? Like, a temperature tripped breaker. If there's a breaker trying to catch fire and/or overheating, and/or emitting smoke, the safety breaker would trip and turn the entire mainboard off. Like, literally, why is this not even attempted? Think about it. Smoke/heat alarm BREAKERS. Retrofit with minimal effort. 100% safer.
If it’s more than materials cost plus 10% and £10 per hour, with completion in under eight hours, you are clearly making too many videos on customers time.
I dont understand why everyone wants led spot lights these days. They are shit. They flicker, go out all the time, burn out, fade, change colour, they only light a small area and make harsh shadows.
As a spark of over 20 years, you are very fair and a great tradesman, prices are dependant on the area, I’m in Cambridge but we don’t charge anywhere near what some claim to be charging….
Great videos, definitely the best sparky content on RUclips 👍
Thanks dude
People complaining about rewires but they don't realize the rewire will last 25+ years so really, any price is a cheap price, if it's done correctly.
You mean 50+ years? I still have cables in my house basement from 1950 🤣
Correct again! Also, if you think that rewiring adds value(or prevents value being removed during sale - generally more than you spent, especially with inflation) then the rewire is practically free as all the electrician has done is take your cash and converted it into equity in an appreciable asset. It's win win.
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There's never a correct price to suit the owner or the tradesman. As an Electrician for 40 years I've always worked on an hourly rate plus supplies. Give them a figure with variables and always stipulate on paper what you are doing.
Honest and reliable, what you see is what you get. Best way to be 👍 can also vouch, Bundy will give advice as and when able to 👍
I wouldn't bother i'd just charge by the hour and estimate more or less how many hours i think it'll take warning the customer that it might end up being a few more, if it ends up being a lot more then i'd take it on the chin and cap it but that's me
As someone who works in procurement, I won't be interested if I don't have a breakdown quote. In the same way that a miscalculation costs you money, most of the time lazy calculations cost money to the customer. A breakdown price implies that you took the time to make the numbers and you have done the calculations to reach that number.
In that way, it is fair for the supplier and it is fair for the customer.
Love these videos, i find pricing quite daunting, but this helps out alot
That’s seems cheap to me and also doesn’t account for occupied. I will always charge more for occupied because it’s a lot more work. You literally lose at least 2/3 hours a day.
Thank you for this content, I'm looking to buy a house this year and it's quite likely to be something that needs modernisation. Good to know what I need to think about if my chosen property needs more sockets and/or rewiring.
6:17 OH DEAR LORD
What about the cost of chasing out and the plastering after?
Thanks for all of the honesty and breakdown - makes sense 😁
I'm not so sure that moving the CU makes sense, given that a fire is so so unlikely (whilst "loose wires cause fires", i rekon you have more chance of winning the lottery)
Be good to see how you move the consumer unit. Never done that before (what cable to use)
Cooker and shower prices are very less.
pir flood light price is high.
Does this include vat?
6mm for the shower? Are you sure about that 🤔
Well yes if it’s below 8.5kw and less then 15m run . What’s the problem ?
I didn’t say it was wrong?……first thing I inform the customer is how terrible an 8KW shower is for what it’s worth install 10mm, how many times have you told a customer they can’t have a more powerful shower fitted because of the 6mm feed? It happens quite often, a lot of customers have regrets about 6mm or being uninformed and why to save a few pounds on cable?? installation method C is also becoming less common as properties are generally adding more insulation. So I ask again….are sure 6mm is your choice 🤔
@@icemanA84 I agree mate always go 10mm as they will always want more powerful and the price difference on cable is not much
Are you allowed 2 electric showers in the same house?
One sparky told me it wasn’t allowed. Happy to hear peoples thoughts!
Yes, it's allowed - however you need a sufficient incoming supply. In the UK most houses have a single phase, 60-100A service at 230V (230*60 = 13,800W/13.8KW, 230*100 = 23,000/23KW).
An electric shower uses around 10KW of a concurrent draw, if you were to run two at the same time you'd be looking at concurrent draw of 20KW, that's not even considering the maximum potential draw etc.
The way to get a bigger incoming supply would be to talk to the DNO (district network operator) and request an upgrade to 3-phase - the cost of this will vary, depending on several factors.
why do you guys use electric showers? Is there no combi available?
@@carlmarquardt994 yes, we have combi boilers here also.
@@hiddenidentity8291 why electric showers? Is there no boiler available at the house? I'm.from oz and our systems are rather simple.
I have been over here in U.K. for 7 years. Doing commercial construction work and industrial.
I'm trying to pick up some more tips on how the domestic works. For instance ring finals ect and Eicr. I recently did the testing course and we didn't have anything like it
You seem to be pricing pretty low for a data point. Given how error prone they can be. I presume you're also talking about the cable run, but what about endpoint termination? Are you terminating to RJ45, or patch panel? £45 seems a little low for any of this. I'd much rather fit power sockets all day then networking if the cost is lower. Is this due to competition? Sorry.... Lots of questions.
This isn’t what I charge mate, these are made up numbers for the sake of the video 👍
@@NBundyElectrical Appreciate the response as always lad. Buuut "these aren't my exact prices, but it aint a far off"
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, nor hopefully seen as tekkin' piss.... £45 (or whatever is close these days) is very low. I've just done my house out in CAT6, and it takes me about three times as long as it would to do a power socket per ethernet socket. Even if its a dual port, you still have to punch down two cables, so in total 16 wires then need to be done perfectly to get 1Gbps. Now I aint saying charge £135, but £45 (or close to) is low. I would put ethernet ports at about £80 each.
Do you have the link to sign up to get some more info on pricing jobs please?
Love the video! Keep it up 👊
Where you based? Am looking for a rewire in the next 6 months, I'm up in pontefract
How do you charge for the cabling ?
Freudian at 10:12 ?
What jobs are open to someone with a C&G level 2 diploma. If you can give a short list, it would be much appreciated. Thanks and really enjoyed watching many of your videos.
Brilliant video Nick 👍🏻
Just looked at the quotes I had before you did my place. One guy sent me a breakdown like what you show. £85 per downlight! Feels a bit much given that was labour only pre VAT too 😬
Was his name Jordan? 😂
@@ShaneSiKBoYBrown Ouch 🤣🤣
Robbery!, 55-60 supply and fit
No wonder sparks wipe their back sides with 50's
@@ShaneSiKBoYBrown £100 an hour plus vat ain’t it 😂
Must be taking the piss, 85 for a downlight? Just install your own downlights then... i mean electricians are stunned to find DIY stuff but then they charge people exorbitant rates for work so what do you expect, people aren't all rich
fair play dude great attitude
Great vid, just curious why a 6mm for a shower cable, should be 10mm otherwise they limited to what shower they can have.
8.5kw is plenty, none of my customers want a 10.kw shower for the cost of running mate
You’d just stick a 10mm in to future proof it wouldn’t you. That’s what myself and most sparks I know have always done. Each to their own though I guess
@@TOMHARTOE we never stick in a 6mm never have done always a 10mm so the customer can have a better powered shower
10mm everyday of the week to future proof, I never use 6mm
@@NBundyElectrical but why not future proof it Incase you might get the same customer or customers wanting a more powered shower
Thanks for sharing this with us take care
Good video mate, My prices pretty much mirror yours so must be doing something right 😂
East midlands here and one guy will quote you £6k and another £12k, One will also turn up with a notebook and pen, the other with a top of the range iPad pro lol.
2 outbuildings , orangery, loft extension .... shes spending alot !
For me I charge £350 a day for me and my assistant plus parts. So a five day job would be £1750 plus materials.
Good lord ! Please give me your details I have about 20 rewires you can do .
@@dangranet7621 I’m very booked up with rewires and other work. I keep my overheads low to give good value and win jobs. I’m NICEIC. But don’t bother with any other badges, storage premises, fancy vans and such. I use my house garage. I’m sure a lot of prices I see on here are high due to extra overheads I’d not bother with.
Is this a full chase ? I’d say £1750 for a rewire ( as a 3 bed semi and smaller shouldn’t take any longer then 5 days ) is a very reasonable price , no wonder you a stacked with work - all’s I can say is if you can afford it then Fantastic. I just could not be bothered with the hassle then anything less then 5k - 8k for a 5 day rewire.
@@dangranet7621 yea we have a metabo chaser. I know I undercut a lot of local competition. Usually I ask what they have been quoted and can usually better it and make more than my usual rates. No VAT either. Keep away!! But it’s deffo low overheads that help. However rising fuel costs are biting.
@@dangranet7621 plus materials which is easily another grand and a half if not two for a 3 bed semi depending on finish etc
Nice wallpaper in the box room 😂😂
Great video dude 😎
Can tell you don't live in London mate
These are made up number mate just I get you 😂
30k
Top video that dude 😎
Is Dave Savo in the membership group? 😂
For 5 mins yeah 😂
When you joining? 👀
Firemen in america use these cool "extinguisher ball" that are thrown in fire, and they explode and throw fire extinguishing material everywhere. Why can't we just put small chocolate bars like that inside fusebox, and when the fusebox catches on fire, BLAM, puts it out. Why isn't that done? :(
they do its called enviroburst
@@pwintz2445 OH SNAP. Make that standard and legal requirement.
Love this
.... Hmmm... How come there aren't safety breakers for the switchboards? Like, a temperature tripped breaker. If there's a breaker trying to catch fire and/or overheating, and/or emitting smoke, the safety breaker would trip and turn the entire mainboard off. Like, literally, why is this not even attempted? Think about it. Smoke/heat alarm BREAKERS. Retrofit with minimal effort. 100% safer.
Have you been smoking weed
@@supersparks9466 I am not seeing any engagement with what I said. Are you jealous?
@@supersparks9466 brilliant 😂😂
@@dimitar4y This is a very solid idea!
@@dimitar4y what do you fit if your proposed safety breaker starts smoking? Have another to trip that one out? Then another and so on?
If it’s more than materials cost plus 10% and £10 per hour, with completion in under eight hours, you are clearly making too many videos on customers time.
I dont understand why everyone wants led spot lights these days. They are shit. They flicker, go out all the time, burn out, fade, change colour, they only light a small area and make harsh shadows.
This is early 😀
Lidl
Quality work none the less
Ok
Guy does not answer emails. I asked him to price a renovation , not even an acknowledgement
When was it mate? Sorry if I’ve missed you
@@NBundyElectrical 5-7 weeks ago after I watched a lot of your content. No worries of you missed it, it could have slipped into your junk email.
Nick not sure you saw my comment on your last video, this one is the same 13:55 That is not your website URL, do you do the interwebz ?
I’m fixing it mate thank you 👍