Again so fucking true. As an estp my biggest problem in life is constantly changing what i want because i have litterally no clue what i want. And then i know and then i dont know, non stop on repeat for decades. So afraid for my own future that i dont know which path to follow proactivly. I can react very well but come on I need to be able to get after something I want, with a proactive plan and sticking to it. How hard can it be. But for me it is sooo boring to follow a plan. Its almost onbearable. But i will try to not give up.
Ugh, same. I feel so happy whenever i light upon 'a plan' and then a few days later i'm just back in the mud. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Fantastic at responding. So bad the rest of the time.
I can relate to that 100% I dont Know wtf I want this minute im motivated to white songs after 3 days I got bored and give up then I get another idea and that cycle repeat over and over again
Wow. Just came out of an estp relationship and this articulated so closely my experience. I constantly spoke about the transactional nature. I refused to engage with it to the point if he got me a gift I was repulsed by it. It manifested in all sorts of ways obviously not just tangible gifts. I instinctively knew not to respond in kind and confirm his bias but it didn't seem to make any difference. If he was ever accidentally vulnerable in any way he'd recoil and distance himself and I felt at these times he was being unfaithful. He'd then come back after asserting his freedom and accuse me. Crazymaking.
@@aplethoraofme2056 yeah I thought he was kind at first but then I realised the gifts were in lieu of his time (lost freedom) he was trying to purchase a get out from being accountable for his part in the relationship. If that makes sense. Still making sense of it myself. This video helped a lot.
@@jules5177 Not to be nosy , just a basic te assessment. Did you two ultimately break up because the Estp was avoiding responsibilities and gaslight you in the end calling you crazy?
@@cacorn982 yeah exactly that. Bipolar 😂 hormonal or anything that meant no accountability on his part. He even laughed about it himself as though he knew how ridiculous it was but was willing to die on that hill anyway 🤷🏻♀️
Dejection spoke to me. I never get approached, barely ever. It's disheartening when you feel like you're fighting each day and no one appreciates you. Hope keeps me going.
You ENFPs don’t make yourself approachable. Need to learn to smile and be more relaxed instead of sticking your ass out or making loud sex noises. Stay still too… you ENFPs move around too much.
The way you word things can be so poetic. This especially resonated: 26:07 "...They even draw their sense of identity from admitting fault; because how can they receive mercy from somebody and actually feel loved, unless they're willing to admit fault first. That is, after all, the secret to Estp happiness..."
Thanks CSJoseph. 2 years after an end of a very important relationship to me I've received your confirmation about the envy flickiness, looking for the infinite love of the source, difficulty on admiting the wrongs and the aloneness that this type feels. As an ENFJ that loved him very dearly I listen to you and can understand him even better now. Your mic sounds great, but what you say is the cure! Thank you for creating this space full of love and potential.
Okay... so this one's a tear-jerker! :'( I do have to add, that having a relationship with God CAN heal lots of the things you speak of... If it's done right.
I think you’re projecting your “feelings” about ESTP in this one. Some gd insights, but I think a lot of what your conclusions are self fulfilling prophecies and it becomes obvious you’re ultimately on the outside looking in
So frustrating… I keep going back and forth with an ESTP(I’m an INFP) and just seeing that fickle, transactional part at work hurts because I choose him every time regardless. I want to show him that he has unconditional love from me, but I think it’s more that they want unconditional love from whoever they want at the time.
LOL. I've been waiting for a full video to answer this question! Also- is there any way to make an ESTP less transactional in a relationship? It drives me nuts. Even though I’m interest based too. I’m sick of constantly being reminded of every little thing they do and everything I do is conveniently forgotten. They always set it up like you are in their debt.
I’m actually that introvert whom used to think was she was an extrovert. I used to think I was an extrovert, but because I used to engage with lot debates at the family dinner table; and was quite chatty and loud and having my mom constantly tell me that I would talk to much. It was not until that one time when my dad correct me by telling me that not only was I an introvert, but that I was very introverted -even more so than my INFJ oldest brother and my ISTJ mother. He explained to me that he very rarely saw me taking to more than one, or two people at a time; that I really enjoyed being alone and that I would only often grumble if we had to go out, that he’d never see me initiate any conversation, and that he’s only see me get chatty if people would touch on the subjects that would interested me, and that I had an extreme impatience towards small talk. My introversion was in fact confirmed when I took the MBTI test and came out as the very introverted INTP.
Yep. I get very drained being around large groups of people with no purpose other than mingling (it wears me down a lot even though I've done it). However I can also talk your ear off if it pertains to something I'm interested in or even work related. I'm also a very good public speaker (something about standing up above everyone can actually make me look very charismatic...I also have a deep loud voice that carries). My last truly big speech was when my dad died a couple years ago as I was the main speaker (it was very difficult for my mom) and I had many in the crowd both laughing and with tears in their eyes. However once I step down in a large crowd I'm responding, say very little, and want to get out of there. My responsibility may require it but I'm definitely not the same person once I'm mingling with a bunch of people.
To me jealousy : I want what you have and I don't care if you have it i care about me having it too Envy: I want what you have and I want to take it away from you
@@rimasoosamir8167 envy is wanting what others have not taking it away for said person. there should be some other term then for specifically wanting someone else's possesion, and wanting to take it from them. i thought that term was jealousy, but i can be wrong.
@@rimasoosamir8167 Envy and jealousy are very close in meaning. Envy denotes a longing to possess something awarded to or achieved by another: to feel envy when a friend inherits a fortune. Jealousy, on the other hand, denotes a feeling of resentment that another has gained something that one more rightfully deserves: to feel jealousy when a coworker receives a promotion. Jealousy also refers to anguish caused by fear of unfaithfulness. So according to this explanation wouldn't it be more likely for a jealous person to take what you have earned? they actually feel like you don't deserve it.
@@ronizielinski4048 i realized i can't fit in among large groups or make friends with so many people, i felt comfortable around everyone in high school because i knew my classmates since primary school
We have this new ESTP colleague at my work. I do like him and fond him to be rather intriguing, but he tends to be flakey and doesn’t really commit to any task.
ESTP'S have SE in their function stack they are hyper aware of who they are and they know what they want they seize opportunities right away in real time ESTP'S are similar to the ENTP'S but ENTP'S are witty innovative and seize the opportunities to invent systems that is what is different about those two types .
I typed a friend as an ESTP initially but when he said he was an introvert I assumed he was an INTP like me. I still don't know. He gets a lot more done but that's largely motivated by his family as he has to look after them. He often comes up with analogies like I do but what he does physically is quite ISTP like. Super intelligent people are hard to type because they're complex and don't fall into a box easilly. When you're alone in life as an INTP, it's very easy to lose direction and will power but there's always that need to accumulate knowledge. Motivation can sometimes happen outside of yourself but it has to be persistently positive motivation for me right now because it's so easy to give up even when basic survival depends on getting things done.
@@angelofmidnight. He's quite passive and shy but warms up quickly and the conversation is always really interesting, often based on things he's been doing or observations
@@louisejoel estp vs intp is totally different creature. it's like comparing a nerd and a chad in high school scenery. one having Se Hero, the other Se is basically nonexistent. typing is becoming difficult when the function is similarly close.
Use the interacting styles and is he talking with concrete or abstract language, pragmatic or systematic, Interdepended vs independed, and informative or direct, initiating or responding etc. Is he always talking about right now (Se) or past (Si) or planning/moving towards a future goal (Ni) or talking in abstract possibilities a lot (Ne) m.m. Is he doing some of all that vs not doing that at all. You can also check his motives for anything he does and look for what functions is at play the most if you are completely lost. Also check the types purpose pursuits and virtue and vice etc. Using all this and more should help you spot the needed clues to piece it together over time.
@@Popcorn_Assassin Thanks. He's abstract, responding, self sufficient but interdependent, talks about future possibilities, goals, very creative. I think he might be a very functional INTP but unsure.
@@louisejoel INTP egoes are not interdepended unless they are in their ESFJ side of their mind a lot. Is he happy and joyful without and seems fearless toward the ESFJ ego/subconscious?
14:13 I am guessing that Fe inferior is changing constantly whether it cares or not? Fickle with caring feels familiar when people are antagonising. People try my patience.
I am an intj mom of a sixteen-year-old estp son. One of my friends needs help and sometimes I need help too and we help each other. My estp son surprised me when he said you both are using each other. What?
My istj friend has this friend and I couldn't tell if they were an esfp or estp, and this video thoroughly convinced me he's an estp and everything makes so much sense now. Mind blown 🤯
I have a question I dont understand how women have multiple sources of unconditional love. I honestly feel i dont have much of that. I as an isfj am so starved to be wanted and chosen and to be loved unconditionally. Please elaborate if you can sometime in the future. Thank you very much
You're extremely skilled in describing the ESTP. You keep pouring out one great video after the other. Rocco is a ESTP for sure by the way, if you read his interviews, don't know if one wants to be ESTP indeed. I wouldn't want.
Just comment on the loss of freedom. I wild out with my freedom, I don’t care about anything as long as I feel free. I recently had surgery that would produce me more freedom and knew I’d be out for 6 weeks but in return would get more freedom. Well I was almost at the end of recovery and then my stitches busted and in a fit of rage I have burned almost every fire my bridge I have after being told 14 more weeks till I’d be out of the woods. Might as well be eternity , burn it all down.
want? more like do and shit happens but your right on the xanatos gambit and thet fact i knew yet let it happen. dam u know me Thanks Chase love your work!!!
Thank you yet again for making this video. I've tried to slowly combine everything I've learned from all the videos and podcasts and I cannot believe I was really able to improve my life, as well as, the lives of others!! And I'm so happy you will be gaining new hosts to help keep things going. May I ask if you've considered having a female host? I was thinking you could probably reach more people that way, you know? Lol, just a thought. I'm looking forward to learning more:) Thanks, again!!!!
@@CSJoseph Well, I would volunteer but I seriously doubt I'm smart enough for the job, lol!!! But I honestly think you'd get more people watching if you had the right woman. She'd have to be very intelligent AND attractive, I think. But that's just my infp opinion, of course-lol!!!!
So what must an estp do to get their back scratched?😂 also, if someone isn't reciprocating ur efforts despite you telling them, how's that not "keeping losers in your life?" Like at what point do you go "ok time to kick the losers out of my life"
You know it’s time when you start to become/realize you’re becoming someone you don’t like. It’s not about back scratches at all, but unconditional love. Not sure how you missed that.
@@Jgrace0789 i think back scratches are trivial. I'm trying to say theres gonna be a balance u'll have to look for between giving and receiving. Otherwise if you just keep giving and have to tell someone constantly everything, its gonna be like staying with a loser
true 👍, everything you said is accurate 👌..The thing with estp is that they look so confident in themselves that people tend to trust them until they don't. Nevertheless, they still have plenty of supporters; I don't think estps ever realise that people stopped trusting them
Sarra, this is not a question to ask strangers on the internet with questionable expertise and who lack knowledge about your relationship. Only you can make this decision. And if the relationship between you two is working, don't let strangers make you begin to doubt it.
First of all, don't judge someone by their MBTI, not everyone works the same, ESTP here and I'm deeply in love with my INFJ we are really good with what we are and we have accomplished together, all is about work together on it, and keep lighting up that love, UNDERSTAND both needs and feed together ya cravings, I can tell as an ESTP, your bf have physical needs and he would really appreciate if you are willing to satisfy him, so he also have to satisfy your needs, just work together on it and it would be fine girl.
“The conflict breeds mercy, and mercy is how ESTPs and INFJs show love and receive love, ultimately.” Me sitting at home with ESTP husband - immediately “Are you f’n serious?!?” *buckles up*
ESTP'S are not fickle they know what they want they're very grounded they are not scatterbrains and they don't mirror those who are unhealthy this is so absurd healthy ESTP'S love their freedom they have their boundaries and they are quick witted and charming they take responsibility for the choices they make I unlike you see the potential in them they have allot to contribute to society Your not intuitive because you don't see their potential and the possibilities of this type or any type you are not an ENTP for this reason ENTP'S see the possibilities in people as INTP'S my type does. SJ'S judge people and do not see the possibilities ESTJ'S behave this way this is your type you are judgmental about people I tend to be open minded as an INTP about people and ENTP'S are like that too .
I just wanted to thank you for this comment, I as an ESTP have been going through do much lately and have fought so hard for my dreams and for the people I care about. Its good to hear that at least one person sees the potential and doesn't crap on us.
@@nyxcole9879 My mom I think was a ESTP she past away a while ago but she marched to the beat of her own drum she didn't care what people thought a bout her she was funny witty and so intelligent don't let the stereotypical idea bother you ESTP'S are very intelligent despite what people say that they are dumb or not intelligent .
I think he verbalizes the worse of the types on these videos.. he really roasts the isfp's. It's super personal.. would be nice if he mixed more positives in to balance some of the negative thoughts out..
@kimtopology4257 yeah, I'm still trying to figure estp's out but I believe jesse watters is one and behind the impish remarks is very intelligent thinking. He's blunt and the feels are def not in his top 2 functions😂
This is very interesting. My partner spends time by himself and i am wondering if he is actually introvert. He seems to come alive more when he is interacting with people even if its on WoW. And he is very talkative, too much for me lmao. Too me this screams extroverted and yes he is forced to be astrocized because of the government bs. Very interesting and disturbing at the same time. And also a lot of our arguments are because i like time alone and he says its selfish. But if he was introverted like me he would need that time to recharge but he doesnt seem too nor does he seem to understand my need for alone time. This is explaining a lot right now.
I have a psychologist in what grade school after they put in special ads was 4th 5th grade who asked me and my extroverted or introverted and I said extroverted and when I think back when I was younger......
Wow I'm on channel I know I might ask you first or if not I would definitely bounce it back to you there's no question about it cuz it's where I've learned all this from well another sources but yeah why does this just resonate much deeper
i can relate to this because when i was younger i went through a certain trauma that changed me into an ISTP and i didnt get myself back until i felt absolute freedom. but this freedom made me more connected to what i am originally not what i have to be occasionally and then i became more self aware to not slip again.
yeah changed to istp is kinda cringe. estp has auxiliary Ti and istp has dom Ti so becoming istp would probably mean you were thinking more and being less in the moment :/.
I don't want to type them I know what they need. Only one I need to type is the one that I'm intimate with cuz that's all I want and you start off saying why do we type his introverts and where the loneliest of all now this hits home
@@CSJoseph then why so critical of ESTP''s lately, especially when it used to be the complete opposite. I've followed you for awhile now and respect your knowledge of mbti, but if I remember correctly you sure did have a relationship with one. Just try to keep it unbiased
Hmm he’s critical towards every mbti tbh lol i watched his videos about the mbtis of the people in my life and I felt relieved that it wasnt just towards my type.. He’s usually right - burned infp 💔😂
Okay so you do coaching I thought you did. I was looking on the site today I couldn't find the link then again I was reading about the trickster function too so maybe I didn't look thoroughly
I wonder if this is why whenever I start to pick up on any kind of rejection I immediately start acting like an asshole so that the person will find me off putting and leave. It’s a power game. Having them reject me first gives them power over me and I can’t have that
OOF the whole explanation about how fickle ESTPs are because of their Ni baby function,,, I totally resonate with this to an extent because sometimes I do find my mind changes so quick and it ticks others off 🤣 understandable. I'm so aware of it, though, so I go by "let your yes be yes, and your no be no." And if I made an error of judgement and must change my mind I have to back it up with xyz and e before I allow myself to jump ship. 95% of the time I follow through with my decisions/statements etc bc of (ironically) how consistent the bible is. God never changes etc and my womanly ESTP fickleness LOVEs how consistent and trustworthy God and his laws are lmao. However I have also developed my INFJ subconscious, who ofc has that Ni. So I'm trying my best to develop those weak ass functions an ESTP suffers from for the sake of society and my ENFP superego((''::: Anyway thank you for this video, ESPECIALLY how you don't envy ESTPs (not that anyone should envy anyone). And how you explained how much ESTPs project themselves onto others bc of their own inner fickleness 🙃🙃🙃 I need to go apologise to some people in my life, because I have done this (which has lead to conflict) and it makes me a hypocrite and I can't stand that. I love how you always enforce being humble. It's so important to me as well, humility helps you learn and grow. I'm grateful to receive these verbal flayings that test my character, because ultimately it will make me a better person. You're an absolute blessing in a society that prefers others enabling their bad decisions and morals and habits. We need people like you.
Yes it does. ENFP yes I don't know if the other one ENFJ or not maybe Christine I don't know I can't type all the women I've been with but I know I've been with nine of J and one INFP multiple times same one and maybe I don't know I don't know the ex ISTJ I don't know that I pissed off because she tried to burn my reputation and destroy me there's definitely was some evil behind that like undermine my career sort of stuff I never I never never had an issue like that with a woman at the end where she tried so hard to destroy everything about me so
Lack of identity... The way they treat women toast and resonate. Do I assume they're good or bad interesting I don't know I can catch a vibe and tell honestly I assume they're bad until they prove otherwise
You say "that's obvious" every single episode. If somebody doesn't know who you are then it isn't obvious which is why you're introducing yourself in the first place, no? If everybody knew then there would be no need, but that isn't the case. So maybe you could preface it with "for those of you who are new to the show," rather than saying "but that's obvious, right?"
Yeah you got that right it is I don't know if it's a show but we're big softies I definitely have to stay there yep big softies so how can I be between the two I understand This is makes no sense
See I go to people but then sometimes I let people come to me so I don't know this this this makes no sense but I do initiate I have no problem initiating. But I do both
Could your description of envy vs jealousy just be your way of 'softening' your jealous tendencies? Id say lust wants what others have more for that power factor. Envy more for that control factor. Lust thinks they deserve it because they transactionally performed for it where Envy thinks they deserve it because they put it transactional work.
What would you say about the higher testosterone male ESTPs having the consequence of testosterone binding to their amygdala to disregulate the limbic system and therefore creating emotional problems. Personally I feel like my emotions are more of a synchronised orchestra and I never express emotions directly and instead choose to demonstrate my emotions through actions or artistic style performances. It often helps me move along with things more smoothly if I don’t try to discard my emotions but instead personify them through action. I usually am quite serious so comedy always helps ease the tension of my intensity.
Testosterone makes me more calm, while simultaneously giving me more energy. Likely because to the decrease in cortisol Testosterone can cause. I’d say increasing it has helped me with my “emotional problems” (could you state what you mean by that? Your words are vague). I’ve also observed Low T dudes are some of the most cynical, angsty, and Spineless people I have dealt with.
I think you thought you were introverted because you are actually a verbally gifted person, and you needed to study deeply to develop your intellectual gifts. I have watched many of your videos and I really like when you focus on the science of depth psychology and personality types. I think you teach this better than others. It is very hard to do original work in this area. We need a genius to clarify much of the terminology to have it really be scientifically valid versus folk wisdom.
Admitting to their mistakes and flaws to find mercy and their identity is the only completely accurate thing you said in this video. You are missing so much info to complete your understanding.
Do note that you confuse ESTP for ENTJ, ENTJ for ENTP and ESFP for ESFJ For e.g. Donald trump is an ESTP and Andrew Tate is an ENTJ. And the actual what you think to be the quintessential se dom estp here are in fact, ESFPs. Although that wasn't complete either because you think Logan Paul is an ESTP.. WHEN HE IS AN ESFJ... Jake Paul and Connor McGregor are actual ESFPs whereas ESTPs are much darker and are easily confused with ENTJ and ISTP such as Jon Jones, Miyamato Musashi, Muzan from Demon Slayer and so on and so forth Some serious holes in your knowledge when it comes to a couple of these things. But I believe you would absolutely transform with your insights if you can remedy them, you would become a treat to listen to Do note there are two types of ESTP; ESTP SP8 and SP9 And 3 types of ESFP; ESFP SO8, SX8 and SO9 Your whole thought process of ESTP turning into clowns when they were those that would crack down on lowly behavior, these are ESFPs, friend. ESTPs are too antisocial and independent to care about society like that. That is because ESFPs are also highly masculine but more dependent on social relations. -Actual ESTP
Short answer: Nobody can reject me if I reject myself (and them) first
Yes literally this.
Lol
"You can not lose if you do not play" Marla Daniels
Damn guys as an estp this is spot on
@@brucesabatoni3410 by an ESTP for ESTPs
Again so fucking true. As an estp my biggest problem in life is constantly changing what i want because i have litterally no clue what i want. And then i know and then i dont know, non stop on repeat for decades. So afraid for my own future that i dont know which path to follow proactivly. I can react very well but come on I need to be able to get after something I want, with a proactive plan and sticking to it. How hard can it be. But for me it is sooo boring to follow a plan. Its almost onbearable. But i will try to not give up.
Ugh, same. I feel so happy whenever i light upon 'a plan' and then a few days later i'm just back in the mud. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Fantastic at responding. So bad the rest of the time.
I can relate to that 100% I dont Know wtf I want this minute im motivated to white songs after 3 days I got bored and give up then I get another idea and that cycle repeat over and over again
Same here brother. It sucks but we'll be alright
Wow. Just came out of an estp relationship and this articulated so closely my experience. I constantly spoke about the transactional nature. I refused to engage with it to the point if he got me a gift I was repulsed by it. It manifested in all sorts of ways obviously not just tangible gifts. I instinctively knew not to respond in kind and confirm his bias but it didn't seem to make any difference. If he was ever accidentally vulnerable in any way he'd recoil and distance himself and I felt at these times he was being unfaithful. He'd then come back after asserting his freedom and accuse me. Crazymaking.
Sounds very similar to when I dated an ISTP. I found his gestures endearing but it got kinda questionable after awhile. 😅
@@aplethoraofme2056 yeah I thought he was kind at first but then I realised the gifts were in lieu of his time (lost freedom) he was trying to purchase a get out from being accountable for his part in the relationship. If that makes sense. Still making sense of it myself. This video helped a lot.
@@jules5177 Not to be nosy , just a basic te assessment. Did you two ultimately break up because the Estp was avoiding responsibilities and gaslight you in the end calling you crazy?
@@cacorn982 yeah exactly that. Bipolar 😂 hormonal or anything that meant no accountability on his part. He even laughed about it himself as though he knew how ridiculous it was but was willing to die on that hill anyway 🤷🏻♀️
Thank u from the bottom of my heart 🌙
Dejection spoke to me. I never get approached, barely ever. It's disheartening when you feel like you're fighting each day and no one appreciates you. Hope keeps me going.
You ENFPs don’t make yourself approachable. Need to learn to smile and be more relaxed instead of sticking your ass out or making loud sex noises. Stay still too… you ENFPs move around too much.
The way you word things can be so poetic. This especially resonated: 26:07 "...They even draw their sense of identity from admitting fault; because how can they receive mercy from somebody and actually feel loved, unless they're willing to admit fault first. That is, after all, the secret to Estp happiness..."
like a verse from a scripture
This mic is indeed better. Also you had really good lighting too.
Agree to both points here (not that lighting was a concern, but aesthetics are appreciated).
Thanks CSJoseph. 2 years after an end of a very important relationship to me I've received your confirmation about the envy flickiness, looking for the infinite love of the source, difficulty on admiting the wrongs and the aloneness that this type feels. As an ENFJ that loved him very dearly I listen to you and can understand him even better now.
Your mic sounds great, but what you say is the cure!
Thank you for creating this space full of love and potential.
Chase w/ the fresh fade! Your fascial hair is sharp too!! Lookin’ good my G.
-ENFJ currently dedicated to understanding her ESTP father :’)
Okay... so this one's a tear-jerker! :'(
I do have to add, that having a relationship with God CAN heal lots of the things you speak of... If it's done right.
100%
that’s EXACTLY what I went through as an ESTP
So the way an ESTP can be happy is to admit their sinful nature. Interesting.
I’ve witnessed ESTP transactional nature. It’s like a system of barter lol. They EXPECT and one refusal and you are on the naughty step.
Like you are on their bad books if you refuse them something?? Please share
It’s self-explanatory
i dont even do it on purpose lol i just thought thats how the world operates
I think part of why your videos are so awesome to watch is because your brain connects things together very fast and it's fun to listen to.
This was a powerful response. Thanks Mr Joseph for the work that you produce.
I think you’re projecting your “feelings” about ESTP in this one. Some gd insights, but I think a lot of what your conclusions are self fulfilling prophecies and it becomes obvious you’re ultimately on the outside looking in
Agree
Same
are u sure
So frustrating… I keep going back and forth with an ESTP(I’m an INFP) and just seeing that fickle, transactional part at work hurts because I choose him every time regardless. I want to show him that he has unconditional love from me, but I think it’s more that they want unconditional love from whoever they want at the time.
LOL. I've been waiting for a full video to answer this question!
Also- is there any way to make an ESTP less transactional in a relationship? It drives me nuts. Even though I’m interest based too. I’m sick of constantly being reminded of every little thing they do and everything I do is conveniently forgotten. They always set it up like you are in their debt.
Been saying ESTPs put up fronts for the longest. Most alpha my ass😂
Ay chill homie. We are alphas....i think. Not gonna lie, thought i was an INFJ or ISTP for the longest until i learned how functions work. - ESTP 8W7
We are alphas when it is required of us(for example a survival situation)... Other times we are omegas 😂😂
ESTPs are more likely Gammas. Alpha attributes, without the need to be in charge.
A healthy estp is as alpha as can be. Look at Chris Hemsworth or Jon Bernthal
I’m actually that introvert whom used to think was she was an extrovert. I used to think I was an extrovert, but because I used to engage with lot debates at the family dinner table; and was quite chatty and loud and having my mom constantly tell me that I would talk to much. It was not until that one time when my dad correct me by telling me that not only was I an introvert, but that I was very introverted -even more so than my INFJ oldest brother and my ISTJ mother. He explained to me that he very rarely saw me taking to more than one, or two people at a time; that I really enjoyed being alone and that I would only often grumble if we had to go out, that he’d never see me initiate any conversation, and that he’s only see me get chatty if people would touch on the subjects that would interested me, and that I had an extreme impatience towards small talk. My introversion was in fact confirmed when I took the MBTI test and came out as the very introverted INTP.
Yep. I get very drained being around large groups of people with no purpose other than mingling (it wears me down a lot even though I've done it). However I can also talk your ear off if it pertains to something I'm interested in or even work related. I'm also a very good public speaker (something about standing up above everyone can actually make me look very charismatic...I also have a deep loud voice that carries). My last truly big speech was when my dad died a couple years ago as I was the main speaker (it was very difficult for my mom) and I had many in the crowd both laughing and with tears in their eyes. However once I step down in a large crowd I'm responding, say very little, and want to get out of there. My responsibility may require it but I'm definitely not the same person once I'm mingling with a bunch of people.
I don't think INTP will ever think they r extraverts. They r one of the logical beings
18:14 aw I adore INFP’s thank god they’re so ignored and overlooked. I love them.
To me jealousy : I want what you have and I don't care if you have it i care about me having it too
Envy: I want what you have and I want to take it away from you
It's The other way around.
jealousy wants to take away what said person has.
@@jhinthevirtuoso4886 there is a reason why Envy and not jealousy is a deadly sin.
@@rimasoosamir8167 envy is wanting what others have not taking it away for said person.
there should be some other term then for specifically wanting someone else's possesion, and wanting to take it from them. i thought that term was jealousy, but i can be wrong.
@@jhinthevirtuoso4886 the term is Envy
@@rimasoosamir8167 Envy and jealousy are very close in meaning. Envy denotes a longing to possess something awarded to or achieved by another: to feel envy when a friend inherits a fortune. Jealousy, on the other hand, denotes a feeling of resentment that another has gained something that one more rightfully deserves: to feel jealousy when a coworker receives a promotion. Jealousy also refers to anguish caused by fear of unfaithfulness.
So according to this explanation wouldn't it be more likely for a jealous person to take what you have earned? they actually feel like you don't deserve it.
I thought i was extraverted too until i got into university i realized i wasnt lol- INFP
Depends on why u changed ur mind. Introvert is more cool now than back 20 yrs ago too. Everyone plus they 2 exes wanna be introvert in 2022
@@ronizielinski4048 i realized i can't fit in among large groups or make friends with so many people, i felt comfortable around everyone in high school because i knew my classmates since primary school
Well, if you put this way, we do project our ISTJ, INFJ, ENFP unto others
Se doesn't like the idea of being rejected.
Yearn for intimacy, unconditional love (ESTP, INFJ)
They are/can be transactional.
We have this new ESTP colleague at my work. I do like him and fond him to be rather intriguing, but he tends to be flakey and doesn’t really commit to any task.
funny co worker out of know where said "u become the energy you are around! you mirrior them"
ESTP'S have SE in their function stack they are hyper aware of who they are and they know what they want they seize opportunities right away in real time ESTP'S are similar to the ENTP'S but ENTP'S are witty innovative and seize the opportunities to invent systems that is what is different about those two types .
Men dont give unlimited attention in today's age UNLESS its online.
I typed a friend as an ESTP initially but when he said he was an introvert I assumed he was an INTP like me. I still don't know. He gets a lot more done but that's largely motivated by his family as he has to look after them. He often comes up with analogies like I do but what he does physically is quite ISTP like. Super intelligent people are hard to type because they're complex and don't fall into a box easilly. When you're alone in life as an INTP, it's very easy to lose direction and will power but there's always that need to accumulate knowledge. Motivation can sometimes happen outside of yourself but it has to be persistently positive motivation for me right now because it's so easy to give up even when basic survival depends on getting things done.
@@angelofmidnight. He's quite passive and shy but warms up quickly and the conversation is always really interesting, often based on things he's been doing or observations
@@louisejoel estp vs intp is totally different creature. it's like comparing a nerd and a chad in high school scenery. one having Se Hero, the other Se is basically nonexistent.
typing is becoming difficult when the function is similarly close.
Use the interacting styles and is he talking with concrete or abstract language, pragmatic or systematic, Interdepended vs independed, and informative or direct, initiating or responding etc. Is he always talking about right now (Se) or past (Si) or planning/moving towards a future goal (Ni) or talking in abstract possibilities a lot (Ne) m.m. Is he doing some of all that vs not doing that at all. You can also check his motives for anything he does and look for what functions is at play the most if you are completely lost. Also check the types purpose pursuits and virtue and vice etc. Using all this and more should help you spot the needed clues to piece it together over time.
@@Popcorn_Assassin Thanks. He's abstract, responding, self sufficient but interdependent, talks about future possibilities, goals, very creative. I think he might be a very functional INTP but unsure.
@@louisejoel INTP egoes are not interdepended unless they are in their ESFJ side of their mind a lot. Is he happy and joyful without and seems fearless toward the ESFJ ego/subconscious?
FYI much better when your not outside distracted. Loved this one❤❤ thanks chase
14:13 I am guessing that Fe inferior is changing constantly whether it cares or not? Fickle with caring feels familiar when people are antagonising. People try my patience.
Wow. So much information. Thank you so much Mr. CSJ
I am an intj mom of a sixteen-year-old estp son. One of my friends needs help and sometimes I need help too and we help each other. My estp son surprised me when he said you both are using each other. What?
😂
I feel so called out right now 😂
My istj friend has this friend and I couldn't tell if they were an esfp or estp, and this video thoroughly convinced me he's an estp and everything makes so much sense now. Mind blown 🤯
I have a question
I dont understand how women have multiple sources of unconditional love. I honestly feel i dont have much of that. I as an isfj am so starved to be wanted and chosen and to be loved unconditionally. Please elaborate if you can sometime in the future.
Thank you very much
That's their ISTJ unconscious talking or their INFJ aspiration subconscious talking.when ESTPs consider themselves introverts.
You're extremely skilled in describing the ESTP. You keep pouring out one great video after the other. Rocco is a ESTP for sure by the way, if you read his interviews, don't know if one wants to be ESTP indeed. I wouldn't want.
grahhhhhh!!!
Oh yes the mirroring Yes Yes this is now this resonates You're absolutely right I do not want him or bad people
Just comment on the loss of freedom. I wild out with my freedom, I don’t care about anything as long as I feel free. I recently had surgery that would produce me more freedom and knew I’d be out for 6 weeks but in return would get more freedom. Well I was almost at the end of recovery and then my stitches busted and in a fit of rage I have burned almost every fire my bridge I have after being told 14 more weeks till I’d be out of the woods. Might as well be eternity , burn it all down.
Also this pod hurt my feelings lol
want? more like do and shit happens but your right on the xanatos gambit and thet fact i knew yet let it happen. dam u know me Thanks Chase love your work!!!
Thank you yet again for making this video. I've tried to slowly combine everything I've learned from all the videos and podcasts and I cannot believe I was really able to improve my life, as well as, the lives of others!! And I'm so happy you will be gaining new hosts to help keep things going. May I ask if you've considered having a female host? I was thinking you could probably reach more people that way, you know? Lol, just a thought. I'm looking forward to learning more:) Thanks, again!!!!
Are you volunteering? I haven’t met a woman that I trust enough to be on the show yet. Time will tell. I would be happy to have a female host.
@@CSJoseph Well, I would volunteer but I seriously doubt I'm smart enough for the job, lol!!! But I honestly think you'd get more people watching if you had the right woman. She'd have to be very intelligent AND attractive, I think. But that's just my infp opinion, of course-lol!!!!
@@CSJoseph Trust in what way, may I ask???
So what must an estp do to get their back scratched?😂 also, if someone isn't reciprocating ur efforts despite you telling them, how's that not "keeping losers in your life?" Like at what point do you go "ok time to kick the losers out of my life"
You know it’s time when you start to become/realize you’re becoming someone you don’t like.
It’s not about back scratches at all, but unconditional love. Not sure how you missed that.
@@Jgrace0789 i think back scratches are trivial. I'm trying to say theres gonna be a balance u'll have to look for between giving and receiving. Otherwise if you just keep giving and have to tell someone constantly everything, its gonna be like staying with a loser
true 👍, everything you said is accurate 👌..The thing with estp is that they look so confident in themselves that people tend to trust them until they don't. Nevertheless, they still have plenty of supporters; I don't think estps ever realise that people stopped trusting them
As an INFJ is worth continue being with an ESTP ??? We r opposites !!!!! But there is a strong attraction
Sarra, this is not a question to ask strangers on the internet with questionable expertise and who lack knowledge about your relationship. Only you can make this decision. And if the relationship between you two is working, don't let strangers make you begin to doubt it.
First of all, don't judge someone by their MBTI, not everyone works the same, ESTP here and I'm deeply in love with my INFJ we are really good with what we are and we have accomplished together, all is about work together on it, and keep lighting up that love, UNDERSTAND both needs and feed together ya cravings, I can tell as an ESTP, your bf have physical needs and he would really appreciate if you are willing to satisfy him, so he also have to satisfy your needs, just work together on it and it would be fine girl.
But your visible to me chase 😭❤
I actually had a band called The Dejected Meat Whistles. All Ne users
Had? This needs to be revived.
“The conflict breeds mercy, and mercy is how ESTPs and INFJs show love and receive love, ultimately.”
Me sitting at home with ESTP husband - immediately “Are you f’n serious?!?”
*buckles up*
Yeah it can get rough
ESTP'S are not fickle they know what they want they're very grounded they are not scatterbrains and they don't mirror those who are unhealthy this is so absurd healthy ESTP'S love their freedom they have their boundaries and they are quick witted and charming they take responsibility for the choices they make I unlike you see the potential in them they have allot to contribute to society Your not intuitive because you don't see their potential and the possibilities of this type or any type you are not an ENTP for this reason ENTP'S see the possibilities in people as INTP'S my type does. SJ'S judge people and do not see the possibilities ESTJ'S behave this way this is your type you are judgmental about people I tend to be open minded as an INTP about people and ENTP'S are like that too .
I just wanted to thank you for this comment, I as an ESTP have been going through do much lately and have fought so hard for my dreams and for the people I care about. Its good to hear that at least one person sees the potential and doesn't crap on us.
@@nyxcole9879 My mom I think was a ESTP she past away a while ago but she marched to the beat of her own drum she didn't care what people thought a bout her she was funny witty and so intelligent don't let the stereotypical idea bother you ESTP'S are very intelligent despite what people say that they are dumb or not intelligent .
I think he verbalizes the worse of the types on these videos.. he really roasts the isfp's. It's super personal.. would be nice if he mixed more positives in to balance some of the negative thoughts out..
@kimtopology4257 yeah, I'm still trying to figure estp's out but I believe jesse watters is one and behind the impish remarks is very intelligent thinking. He's blunt and the feels are def not in his top 2 functions😂
This is very interesting. My partner spends time by himself and i am wondering if he is actually introvert. He seems to come alive more when he is interacting with people even if its on WoW. And he is very talkative, too much for me lmao. Too me this screams extroverted and yes he is forced to be astrocized because of the government bs. Very interesting and disturbing at the same time. And also a lot of our arguments are because i like time alone and he says its selfish. But if he was introverted like me he would need that time to recharge but he doesnt seem too nor does he seem to understand my need for alone time. This is explaining a lot right now.
I have a psychologist in what grade school after they put in special ads was 4th 5th grade who asked me and my extroverted or introverted and I said extroverted and when I think back when I was younger......
This Mic is better imo
If a infj stops believing their useless would that make them more confident in everything they do and others will learn and think highly of them?
Wow I'm on channel I know I might ask you first or if not I would definitely bounce it back to you there's no question about it cuz it's where I've learned all this from well another sources but yeah why does this just resonate much deeper
i can relate to this because when i was younger i went through a certain trauma that changed me into an ISTP and i didnt get myself back until i felt absolute freedom. but this freedom made me more connected to what i am originally not what i have to be occasionally and then i became more self aware to not slip again.
mine did. am ESTP once again now.
Changed into an Istp 🤔
yeah changed to istp is kinda cringe. estp has auxiliary Ti and istp has dom Ti so becoming istp would probably mean you were thinking more and being less in the moment :/.
Your rype can't change
Man! That was good 👍🏼
Damn!! Until I started admitting my faults I actually was unhappy 😬
I don't want to type them I know what they need. Only one I need to type is the one that I'm intimate with cuz that's all I want and you start off saying why do we type his introverts and where the loneliest of all now this hits home
C.S Joseph is just scorned, because his ex who doesn't want him is an ESTP. What a sad ENTP
I don’t have an ESTP ex
@@CSJoseph then why so critical of ESTP''s lately, especially when it used to be the complete opposite. I've followed you for awhile now and respect your knowledge of mbti, but if I remember correctly you sure did have a relationship with one. Just try to keep it unbiased
Hmm he’s critical towards every mbti tbh lol i watched his videos about the mbtis of the people in my life and I felt relieved that it wasnt just towards my type.. He’s usually right
- burned infp 💔😂
bro kinda spit our faces calling our existance trash but maybe thats that bluntness of ti and blind fi
yes ex infp and istj.... dam u know me better then i do myself
Okay so you do coaching I thought you did. I was looking on the site today I couldn't find the link then again I was reading about the trickster function too so maybe I didn't look thoroughly
Yeah, it sucks being so dependent on intimasy
Random Opinion: Your hair looks best cut and worn this way. Facial hair as well 👌🏾
Does that opinion include you trying to get with me? If so… DM me sometime
Lust connected this intimacy yes here you go
I wonder if this is why whenever I start to pick up on any kind of rejection I immediately start acting like an asshole so that the person will find me off putting and leave. It’s a power game. Having them reject me first gives them power over me and I can’t have that
What's the difference between rejected and dejected?
Bro hearted your comment and didn't answer lool
But fr just watch the vid
dejection is being invisible,u werent an option to reject in the first place. rejection means they acknowledged u and juged you and still rejected you
OOF the whole explanation about how fickle ESTPs are because of their Ni baby function,,, I totally resonate with this to an extent because sometimes I do find my mind changes so quick and it ticks others off 🤣 understandable. I'm so aware of it, though, so I go by "let your yes be yes, and your no be no." And if I made an error of judgement and must change my mind I have to back it up with xyz and e before I allow myself to jump ship.
95% of the time I follow through with my decisions/statements etc bc of (ironically) how consistent the bible is. God never changes etc and my womanly ESTP fickleness LOVEs how consistent and trustworthy God and his laws are lmao.
However I have also developed my INFJ subconscious, who ofc has that Ni. So I'm trying my best to develop those weak ass functions an ESTP suffers from for the sake of society and my ENFP superego(('':::
Anyway thank you for this video, ESPECIALLY how you don't envy ESTPs (not that anyone should envy anyone). And how you explained how much ESTPs project themselves onto others bc of their own inner fickleness 🙃🙃🙃 I need to go apologise to some people in my life, because I have done this (which has lead to conflict) and it makes me a hypocrite and I can't stand that.
I love how you always enforce being humble. It's so important to me as well, humility helps you learn and grow. I'm grateful to receive these verbal flayings that test my character, because ultimately it will make me a better person.
You're an absolute blessing in a society that prefers others enabling their bad decisions and morals and habits. We need people like you.
May I ask, just what you mean when you say you haven't found a female potential host you could trust yet? Trust in what regard? I'm curious:) Thanks!!
This showed me CSJ has much better character than most ESTP’s
Also ESTP’s have the worst character of all time
do the confessionss :o
Okay this this sounds like something here how can I relate to them
Yes it does. ENFP yes I don't know if the other one ENFJ or not maybe Christine I don't know I can't type all the women I've been with but I know I've been with nine of J and one INFP multiple times same one and maybe I don't know I don't know the ex ISTJ I don't know that I pissed off because she tried to burn my reputation and destroy me there's definitely was some evil behind that like undermine my career sort of stuff I never I never never had an issue like that with a woman at the end where she tried so hard to destroy everything about me so
Lack of identity... The way they treat women toast and resonate. Do I assume they're good or bad interesting I don't know I can catch a vibe and tell honestly I assume they're bad until they prove otherwise
You say "that's obvious" every single episode. If somebody doesn't know who you are then it isn't obvious which is why you're introducing yourself in the first place, no?
If everybody knew then there would be no need, but that isn't the case. So maybe you could preface it with "for those of you who are new to the show," rather than saying "but that's obvious, right?"
You’re right.
Why does he calls his wife rail gun?
It's an alias. I can't say I blame her. Using her real name could cause headaches and harassment from disenfranchised CS Joseph viewers.
Because it’s cool and hides her real identity
All the women I am intimate with have such a nickname.
Lol not me thinking that's her real name 😂🤦
You are estj
Yeah you got that right it is I don't know if it's a show but we're big softies I definitely have to stay there yep big softies so how can I be between the two I understand This is makes no sense
The people who adamantly insist this is a real way to define humans in categories are the same people who think astrological signs are just so silly
Nature, not humans. You shouldn't limit humans like that, we are all so much more than our nature.
See I go to people but then sometimes I let people come to me so I don't know this this this makes no sense but I do initiate I have no problem initiating. But I do both
Could your description of envy vs jealousy just be your way of 'softening' your jealous tendencies? Id say lust wants what others have more for that power factor. Envy more for that control factor. Lust thinks they deserve it because they transactionally performed for it where Envy thinks they deserve it because they put it transactional work.
What would you say about the higher testosterone male ESTPs having the consequence of testosterone binding to their amygdala to disregulate the limbic system and therefore creating emotional problems. Personally I feel like my emotions are more of a synchronised orchestra and I never express emotions directly and instead choose to demonstrate my emotions through actions or artistic style performances. It often helps me move along with things more smoothly if I don’t try to discard my emotions but instead personify them through action. I usually am quite serious so comedy always helps ease the tension of my intensity.
Probably more likely to happen to them due to Fi trickster.
Testosterone makes me more calm, while simultaneously giving me more energy. Likely because to the decrease in cortisol Testosterone can cause. I’d say increasing it has helped me with my “emotional problems” (could you state what you mean by that? Your words are vague). I’ve also observed Low T dudes are some of the most cynical, angsty, and Spineless people I have dealt with.
Thank you
I think you thought you were introverted because you are actually a verbally gifted person, and you needed to study deeply to develop your intellectual gifts. I have watched many of your videos and I really like when you focus on the science of depth psychology and personality types. I think you teach this better than others. It is very hard to do original work in this area. We need a genius to clarify much of the terminology to have it really be scientifically valid versus folk wisdom.
Awe!
wow!
This hurt to watch, for sure with some cheese on it
Ii do admit fault
C.s.joseph you are ESTJ
You look 😍😍😍
ISTJs .... Wtf.
I watched it and I hated it. Bye.
Admitting to their mistakes and flaws to find mercy and their identity is the only completely accurate thing you said in this video. You are missing so much info to complete your understanding.
Do note that you confuse ESTP for ENTJ, ENTJ for ENTP and ESFP for ESFJ
For e.g. Donald trump is an ESTP and Andrew Tate is an ENTJ. And the actual what you think to be the quintessential se dom estp here are in fact, ESFPs. Although that wasn't complete either because you think Logan Paul is an ESTP.. WHEN HE IS AN ESFJ... Jake Paul and Connor McGregor are actual ESFPs whereas ESTPs are much darker and are easily confused with ENTJ and ISTP such as Jon Jones, Miyamato Musashi, Muzan from Demon Slayer and so on and so forth
Some serious holes in your knowledge when it comes to a couple of these things. But I believe you would absolutely transform with your insights if you can remedy them, you would become a treat to listen to
Do note there are two types of ESTP; ESTP SP8 and SP9
And 3 types of ESFP; ESFP SO8, SX8 and SO9
Your whole thought process of ESTP turning into clowns when they were those that would crack down on lowly behavior, these are ESFPs, friend. ESTPs are too antisocial and independent to care about society like that. That is because ESFPs are also highly masculine but more dependent on social relations.
-Actual ESTP
lmao
@@mahardikaerza5010 ?
Can you please drop the goofy intro? Its annoying and poorly made.