Ashton Kutcher Addresses Danny Masterson Rape Allegations
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Ashton Kutcher breaks his silence on Danny Masterson's rape allegations. The actor opens up to 'Esquire,' explaining that he wants his former 'That '70s Show' co-star 'to be found innocent of the charges brought against him.' Kutcher also notes, 'I wholesale feel for anybody who feels like they were violated in any way.' Masterson, who pleaded not guilty, currently awaits a new trial for sexual assault charges, after jurors were unable to reach a unanimous verdict and a mistrial was declared in December.
Much simpler way of putting it: “he’s a long-time friend and I hope he’s innocent, but if he’s not, then I hope the victims see justice.”
Which is basically what he said at the beginning. Pay attention and stfu
That’s what he said lol. He was prolly asked a million times
perfect answer
Way NOT to take a stance and be a coward either way.
@@BenMJay explain yourself, please.
It’s so important to remember that someone can be a wonderful friend and person to you but a terrible person to someone else. I imagine as someone who loved him it’s unimaginable to picture the trauma and hurt he caused someone else. You can love someone and hate what they did. Support them through their struggle but not support their actions. It’s a complicated situation to be in.
Right! our neighbors could be serial killers, but pretend like they're our everyday best friend, all nice, sunshine and daisies until the truth comes out.
@@ithamarlowe6158 You should just treat people the way you deem they should be treated by you and give them honesty. Even if the truth could hurt someone, it sounds more respectful to others and yourself over what you're saying, which just sounds like band wagon jumping when its convenient or being two faced.
E.g., Dahmer (and I'm not even joking)!
@@bradyking9884 I know exactly what you mean but people ant ready for that convo yet .
For me it was the other way around my bully made my life a living hell for over a decade yet she had friends....how?!!
I mean yeah, you don't wanna believe your friend's done something wrong but if they did they should be punished for it.
How long has it been an accusation? You would assume after almost 3 years it would have been tried in court already
But Danny isn't famous enough that 3 women are going to randomly lie on him in the span 3 years so...
@@markfleming9100 it was tried and ended up deadlocked. They're retrying him again this year.
@@MagTheSag90 yeah he only maid 300 k an episode. Nothing for them to gain at all. Not famous enough=guilty. Great logic
@@marcustaylor4466 oh ok. All I ever hear is accused so figured they would have come to a verdict by now
“Someday his daughter is going to read about this” Damn….
Yeah, she will read about gold diggers coming after her daddy's money
@@RadRat1978 So theyre gold diggers but if he was in a relationship sleeping around hes still the good guy? get the fuck out of here
@@121Greenthumb You think having multiple lovers makes you a bad person? He was 25 years old in 2003. Women do it too.
You're not too bright, are you?
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@@RadRat1978 Im literally polyamorous. No I don't think having multiple partners is bad. When you are in a committed relationship. yes. thats bad. Age has nothing to do with it sooooooo........ pot. kettle. black. Maybe dont call people stupid when you aren't exactly a shining example of academic success yourself.
@@121Greenthumb How could you know what my "academic success" is? Weak.
Good for you being poly; no judgment. However, you're low-information of this case. Jane Doe #2 hooked up with this celebrity then the next day asked him via text: "are we boyfriend/girlfriend now?" Weird shit.
Stop accusing people when you don't know what the truth is yet. Stop acting like gold diggers and false hearts don't exist. Stop being sex-negative and judgmental of peoples sex lives. FU.
Also, rape is *exceedingly* rare (thank god) and less than 2% of rape allegations result in a conviction *for very good reason* (because the overwhelming number of them are total bs)
That was the most appropriate response. It's too easy for a guy to think he knows what another guy does when alone with a woman. I'm tired of hearing: "I know my bud, and he wouldn't do that." It's as wrong as saying: "That's the kind of thing he would do."
If there's one thing I've learned it's that we don't know ANYONE.
Just like it's absurd to say Believe Women
Stupidity, hypocrisy
As if a famous actor ever says anything like that
My God! How can Danny Masterson survive 30 years in prison?
It probably honestly is hard for both Ashton and Topher to see someone who they are friends with be accused of something so horrible. As his friends im sure they don't want to believe he could do such a thing, but at the same time don't want to say he couldn't cause the victims matter too.
It hurts me as both a fan and a s.a victim, Hyde is my favorite character. If he really did this im not sure ill be able to enjoy the character the same again. I feel sorry for the Jane Does. If he didn't do it, it sucks as a fan and a victim to see a trial.
(IN CASE YOU CANT TELL IM SAYING INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY FOR BOTH SIDES)
(EDIT: After seeing the news of the trial and the evidence... I don't know how to feel. I pray for the Jane Does)
remember its not the character its the actor the character of Hyde is golden. honestly i just hope the truth prevails regardless. its so strange to wait 20 years though
@@deadshot4245 it is but at the same time it isn't. I only brought it up right away cause i wasn't afraid of the people who did it. Infact one was a friend.
I understand both not telling or telling cause it is something that changes you as a person forever. It becomes hard to see yourself as you for a while afterwards.
Personally, i dont know if its the same for all victims, but when you don't feel like yourself you almost dont feel human.
However it turns out he did, i do see what you say and hope people dont completely boycott things that were good like thats 70s show because of it. And if he didnt do it i hope he gets justice then.
Same here exactly how I feel
I know it’s hard to separate the actor from their character, but something I saw that did make me feel a little better about Hyde is someone saying “Steven Hyde would definitely punch Danny Masterson”
I’m pretty sure they knew lol
This is interesting, if he’s guilty or not his career is still pretty well ruined with the allegations. Let’s see how this plays out in court.
Shouldn’t be that way. His career should be fine until proven guilty. Bunch of sensitive women
@@Blahblahblah1987 incel alert
@@skybear17 He's an "incel" for saying someone is innocent until *proven* guilty?? The burden of proof is on the accusers. You're the assassin of cool
@@Blahblahblah1987 You seem pretty sensitive about the whole thing....
@@RadRat1978 No hes an incel because now accusing a man of raping you is simply "being sensitive" as if women have no autonomy and aren't allowed to tell men to fuck off. As if rape allegations are just something to brush off and ignore.... "NO BIG DEAL" mentality. Thats why hes an incel.
I hope he’s innocent…not only for selfish reasons like seeing him act again but I hope that nobody was actually harmed.
That’s sweet and all, but then you’re also hoping (and suggesting) that these victims are all liars, which is not so sweet.
@@nightmaresally That's not at all what he's saying and you should know that. Whether Masterson is guilty or not is highly debatable. And just because you're found guilty in court doesn't always mean you're guilty. There's a lot of people wasting away in penitentiaries because of false accusations and the like.
@@nightmaresally idiot
@@nightmaresally yeah I’d rather they be liars then actual rape victims.
@@Multiswagbeast as a Survivor myself, I’d much rather someone hope that I get the justice I’ve risked to get against my rapist than they hope I’m lying about everything.
How does Ashton call himself an advocate for ending sex trafficking then write a letter of support for Danny?
@@jeffpatterson7734 Good one!
Probably because…he advocates for ending sex trafficking
@@sostupidtv8186 Oh.
Do some research
@@craigfoy5492 After you.
It's heart breaking when a good friend you've known for many years turns out to have done these kinds of things. This happened to me, I lost a good friend when I found out he was abusing his girlfriend. She came to stay with me after he hit her. I tried to get her to leave him but he convinced her to stay. After that she went to the hospital when he hit her face so hard that blood was coming out her ear. About 6 months after that they invited me to their wedding. I was vocally clear that I did not support the marriage and was not interested in ever speaking to him again. He texted me many times trying to explain that it wasn't all just him, she was as bad as he was, etc. And I just ignored him totally. And if anyone asks me about him, I tell them the truth. Very sad.
"Allegedly" done those kind of things...
How long have they been married now?
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 the wedding happened in 2019, and I haven't kept in touch with either of them since then, so I have no clue if they are still together.
@@evonekky3672
I see. Well, props to you for standing up to that terrible decision of theirs by not supporting the wedding. It is indeed very sad to see people make such horrendous decisions, putting their own lives at risk! They definitely needed to hear it from a third party, even if it’s only just you.
P.S. You don’t have any mutual friends that might know if they are still married, or perhaps any social media connections still that you didn’t delete? Also, I do believe that divorce records are considered public records that anyone can look up if they want to. You might be able to find out that way.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I don't really care enough to put in the effort to find out. And even if I did, it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.
First off, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I always hope people aren't guilty of the charges they face. And I do hope that Danny is innocent. However, I hope the truth comes out, whatever the truth may be. And if he is guilty, and it can't be proven, I hope this is a wakeup call that gives him a second chance to be a better human being going forward. It is sad when the guilty can walk away because the evidence isn't there anymore . . . and that is a good motive to file charges asap to be able to gather and save all the evidence needed to convict someone.
It's a good motive, but it's just not that simple. Especially when dealing with a celebrity backed by an entire "religious" organization famous for stalking and harassment. There are a million ways to suppress an accuser and they have the power to do it. Not to mention the shame, self hatred, and disgust one feels and has to overcome, after having been violated. It can take years of therapy. I do agree with you, but it's just not that black and white. I wish it were.
With all due respect, some thing you really need to look up is that this isn’t a normal accusation. I saw the interview with one of the accusers. If memory serves, At the time of the assault they were both in Scientology which is a cult. The accuser has since left. The reason why she didn’t file charges until now was because when the assault initially happened she went to the church of Scientology which is what all members are instructed to do. They are indoctrinated not to involve outside authorities. They immediately covered it up and threatened her. That’s why this is only coming out now. Because Scientology was actively involved in the cover-up. Now if you want to see this for yourself you can stream Leah Remini Scientology in the aftermath I can’t remember which season but they had an entire Episode devoted to the case.
@@craigory8123 You must be trolling, they should always be respected and taken seriously.
That’s a lot a women, and he had plenty of chances to be a better a human. I wanted to believe Bill Cosby was innocent. He obviously wasn’t. If this was just one woman accusing him I’d give him the benefit of doubt and leave it to our justice system to decide, though I doubt I’d want a loved one left alone with him because I tend to believe victims.
@@antmagor because the cult requires them to leave law enforcement out of it. He isn’t the first rapist the cult has protected.
Innocent until proven guilty... Danny we hope for the best . I'm glad that Ashton still talks to Danny.. good friend .
I agree, but crazy if someone just sits through it and lets people defend him when actually it may comes out he’s guilty…
@Rick W i don’t say that he did it or did not or that a proof must be there.
I didn’t judge in this case, how could I ?
I just said in a case where it comes out he did it’s just crazy that a guilty person can be this chilled and sit through people defending him for wrong.
AGAIN not saying he is or is not guilty.
hope u realize a shit ton of rapists are found innocent or arent even investigated at all. please stfu
It's really guilty until proven innocent he was canceled immediately but if he's acquitted then forgive and forget and let the man work
GUILTY of 2 of 3 rape charges (too bad the third case was deadlocked). No bail likely as too much of a flight risk--Danny boy is looking at 30 years to life in the slammer
Classy response from Ashton and Topher. I pray for Danny’s innocence. I also pray/send good vibes to anyone who felt like they were harmed in any manner.
You pray for something like that??
Maybe pray he gets what he deserves. His cult church is covering for him.
@@MagTheSag90 Looks like you don’t understand what he’s saying. He’s hoping for good things for anybody who felt like they were harmed, so it goes for either Danny Masterson or the women
Topher is classy. I didn’t expect him to have ever seen that behavior from Danny. Besides the fact that he’s a guy, he also never really went out with the cast to party with them. He spent more time with Kurtwood Smith (Red). I think he was just more serious minded then the rest of the cast.
i pray he gets what he deserves. If he is innocent, I pray we will see it outside of court and if he is guilty, he will go away for a long time. And if he is innocent, the people accusing him should go to jail. This is not a light thing to accuse. Look at Johnny Depp. Amber Hear was a liar that almost ruined his whole damn life.
It’s hard because bad people don’t show that side of themselves to everyone. If you’re a man and your relationship with him is one of friendship, of course you’re not gonna see his sexually abusive side, cause to him you’re not a prey, and of course they’re not gonna mistreat a girl right in front of you neither. You gotta tell yourself that most people have a side that they show only to a few people, and it’s not because you haven’t personally seen that side of them that it doesn’t exist. Men who beat their wives, pedophiles, etc are often very popular men among their peers, it doesn’t mean they can’t be rotten in private.
His response was perfect.
He truly is an evolved man.
It’s about the victim and accused, not Kutcher. They should stay out of it. Their words and views hold weight and should be felt after the trial, not while still in deliberation
@@user-goaway they basically said it's not about me
Yeah it was well answered that would be a tough spot for anyone. Being in the hot seat, especially today. I bet they’d rather not have to answer those questions but silence can be compliance. Really thought out and honest responses.
@@joshz2491 how do you say somethings not about you without having to say somethings not about you? Riddle me that Batman.
Just like that statement you just made was redundant, same as saying something when they didn’t have to say something just to say that they shouldn’t be saying anything 🙄
Inmates in prison don't take kindly to rapists. The Church of Scientology cannot help protect him in prison.
The jury is still out! Hopefully, it will get resolved quickly.
guilty of 2 of the 3 charges--now facing 30 years to life in prison
Love Ashton he answered in the best possible way he could from his point.
Ashton and Topher are not responsible for Danny’s actions. It’s 3 different women accusing him. There’s something there…
LOL fuck the people who think they are
Not necessarily. Simply put, We do not know all the facts. Shouldn't make a judgment call based on just numbers. Should look at the evidence.
To me, a deadlocked jury means there must have been at least some compelling evidence for his innocence
@@ryanmarbut1035 or it means we live in a misogynistic culture that most often doesn't prosecute
@@ceecee4491 That isn't relevant here though because the case is being prosecuted. Unless I am missing your point?
I really like how those two spoke truthfully without defending anyone. So many people are quick to defend someone without having a clue who is guilty or not. No one could know what really happened except for the accused person and the accusers.
Kutcher blew it when he said he “hopes” his friend the serial rapist is found innocent. Kinda like when he “hoped” his date’s murder wasn’t pinned on him so he went to a party and pretended he didn’t see the dead body. Really disappointed to find yet another “star” has some really fucked up ideas about what’s right and wrong.
Rich and famous men not denouncing crimes by one of their own. I shouldn't be surprised.
Surely this shouldn't require 5 years to get justice or to have your name cleared.
How many neighbors etc of serial killers, rappers etc said I've known them for X years or decades and never knew. Such a nice person.
My high school friend I for years murdered Someone in college fr
‘The Ranch’ wasn’t the same without Rooster. And I hate that ‘That ‘90s Show’ didn’t mention Hyde at all. They could’ve said his character was traveling or moved away.
Saying someone “felt” violated is such a tell.
Growing up in scientology has made great videos about this situation.
The problem is scientology plays a big role in this. All 3 accusers and the accused were willing participants within thw church of scientology, which has its own rules and beliefs when it comes to sex and such things.
Now I'm not saying this makes him innocent but im also not saying he's guilty. Its a big mess that unfortunately everybody walks away a little broken
now a days a woman can regret sex and say it was rape. Many of these false rape allegations are due to women regretting the sex.
@@nelcomargaming6612 This wasn’t sex. These were acts of violence.
@@cherrytwizzler That’s only what the women are saying but there’s no proof that he used violence
Ya Scientology is an awful cult.
@@Deadpool0210 It’s in their auditing report.
I wish you all the best! I’m so glad you’re okay. You seem like an amazing person.
Thank you for speaking words of light
Hope he gets fed to the rotties
It's sad his friends can't even say nice things about him for fear they'll be seen as guilty for being his friend.
What nice things were they not able to say? None of their comments were unkind. I think you're conflating "nice" with "defending him".
@@crystalcavern4125 easy to say when in reality it was the safest thing they could say, because if they said I think he's a great guy, I never saw anything that they are talking about. And that's all they say, They would be called out on "defending him" when all they said was they didn't see or heard anything and their relationship was good with him.
Well you shouldn't say nice things about someone if you think they could be running around committing atrocities
@@jaquelinealmazan7027 friend of hitler…. “Impossible, he’s a standup man, a true symbol of care and compassion. love him like a brother”
I’m just glad to see people understand that we don’t know strangers - that means we don’t know accused people or accusing people personally and judgement SHOULD be reserved for that exact reason
Going even further it doesn't matter if we know them personally. Even his friends don't know. Humans are capable of many things. Feel like it's easy for people to see certain people as villans or good people when unfortunately humans are more nuanced than that and we should take it as it comes
Thank you Ashton. Correct again. He's so much different than the character he played in that 70's show, so much smarter and more sensitive.
He is now sentenced to 30 years today.
The one thing I don't get. This was twenty years ago? How can they prove it happened? If they are just taking the accusers word for it, that's terrifying! Anyone who doesn't like someone can pop up years later claiming this happened and that person's life is ruined.
THANK YOU🙏🙏🙏 that's what i said. from what ive read there's no evidence it happened. maybe a couple of police reports from the early 2000s that got hidden or something. I WANT DNA EVIDENCE WITH PICTURES OF BRUISES, CUTS, ECT. bill Cosby had dozens of accusers then suddenly walked free one day. THE WHOLE THING DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. this was supposedly 20 yrs ago. this man has a wife and kid. you might wanna think very carefully before you throw a man in jail for the rest of his life before you just take a few ladies word for it😱😱
You raped me bro, I'll put you in prison, or just give me $1000
I don’t remember every Jane Doe but I remember one of them filed police reports a long time ago. And don’t worry all of Danny’s more recent ones will come forward, hopefully.
There’s record and testimony, and also records of Scientology trying to keep this quiet, so maybe you should shut up if you don’t know anything
@@yourmajesty122 you should think more carefully he’s destroyed more than two women’s lives. We don’t even know how many because only three have had the courage to come forward so far his wife and his daughter are two women that are in danger around Danny. I hope you never have a daughter I hope no woman close to you ever have to go through something like that because dealing with you would probably make them kill themselves.
What I don't understand and don't get me wrong I hope if he's guilty he's punished but why are they kicking him off his TV shows? So to me the TV networks are saying he's guilty before he ever goes to court? I thought everybody was innocent until proven guilty but according to the Network's you're guilty as soon as somebody says something. Something wrong with that
because public opinion on the network or studios would be thrown in the bin if they kept said actor/actress employed/working during these kind of scandals. firing the employee and leaving a cut-paste PR response about the ordeal is just the safest thing for them to do to save face. for example: johnny depp and disney. pirates of the carribean is loved by younger audiences primarily cuz of jack sparrow ofc. allegations arise, suddenly parents everywhere, before even knowing if he's guilty or innocent, want him gone because they dont want their children idolizing that monster.
^ this is how hollywood/large entertainment corporations work. guilty until proven innocent. and more often than not, after a scandal/allegation like this, even if you ARE proven completely innocent, there is no apology from them to the accused. theyre considered a flight risk most times, and their career, and livelihood? blacklisted. over. maybe theyll get a TV deal in more minor roles, but any major acting parts are usually not gonna happen. and its horrible. i fully embrace that victims need a voice. but that includes the accused who have had their lives torn apart and ruined by accusations. and in this instance, no matter what happens, i hope that justice is served. no matter the outcome.
Jesus christ this comment sucks so hard
Ashton Kutcher… Advocate for the child victims of rape… Wrote a nice letter to the judge asking for leniency; since his buddy was such a great guy and all. Both he and Mila Kunis sent in letters, along with Debra Jo Rupp and Kurtwood Smith- all claiming what a wonderful man he is. Btw, these letters were all sent in AFTER the guilty verdict in the hopes of him getting a lighter sentence.
5 year legal case. Whether he's innocent or not his life is already ruined
It’s pretty sad how nowadays you lose your job, and everything else based on accusations he should still be allowed on those shows until he is found guilty.
True
From a showrunners' standpoint, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. If they kept Masterson employed, they could be seen as sweeping the problem under the rug and keeping a predator on their show (similar to what the BBC did with Jimmy Savile). And since they chose to fire Masterson and write his character out, some people are seeing this as letting 3 accusers "ruin his life without proof." If I were ever in that position, I'd rather deal with fans getting mad at me for firing someone than deal with a PR crisis for sweeping the problem under the rug. Innocent until proven guilty only applies to the court of law. It doesn't apply to employment. They could possibly hire him back if he's found innocent, but only time will tell.
If Masterson is found innocent, then he should file a countersuit against his accusers, but if he's found guilty, then he can suffer the consequences of his actions. Given that he allegedly made any potential girlfriends sign a contract with him to only go through the Church of Scientology with any accusations (or something like that), before they even started dating him isn't exactly a good look for Masterson, in this case.
The problem is that too many people, majority women, often wait to come forward with allegations like this (and sometimes, not at all) for reasons such as them being afraid to come forward, feeling ashamed of themselves for what happened to them, etc.
At the end of the day, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
This is true. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
What also happens a lot of the time is that when someone is accused of something that heinous, then years later they are found innocent, the damage has already been done. There’s already such a deep stain put on their reputation and image by that point, that they are never really looked at that same way again. Also, I’m not saying Danny is guilty OR innocent quite yet, but either way, that’s an unfortunate part of being accused of such crimes, regardless of innocence.
Well, yes. Then again, a man on trial for rape won’t be invited to my parties, not because I assume he’s guilty but because he may well be.
I think they both had very mindful, appropriate responses and thoughts about what is happening. It must be very difficult to love someone who has possibly done terrible things to other people. I don’t know how I’d handle that.
If it happened in 2001 and 2003 why did it take them 17 years to come out about it?
“I wholesale feel for anyone...” lol never heard anyone ever put it that way
Very thoughtful and respectful responses to shameful line of questioning.
i hope he is innocent 😔 but if he truly isn’t then my deepest condolences to the victims and their families. that’ll ruin a person
He's guilty af and going to prison for it.
@@Prism_ismbI I can see you're on the Internet like myself stalking this story.. There isn't much though.. why is this story not all over?
@@scovyaporsha I commented as soon as the story broke. I think it will take some time for the information to spread.
@Enter Name If you followed both the first and second trial, then you'd have no reason to doubt the veracity of the sentence. In essence, it was very clear that he committed violent acts against multiple women, enjoyed it immensely, and was free to continue hurting women many years past his first bad act. It's a relief knowing that one less predatory male is off the streets.
@@entername6010 Gotcha. Agreed!
How does it take 20 years to bring a rape charge ?? Something stinks, if I'm on the jury he walks, a woman who reports a rape decades later is most likely lying/looking for money.
Ya habló otro experto legislador
I use to have a crush on Hyde DM I really hope it's not true but if it is the victims deserve justice
I sincerely hope Danny Masterson is innocent, but can't defend him if he is proven guilty. That 70s Show was a show that I've loved for many years, and Hyde was the character that I connected with the most, so his absence from That 90s Show is upsetting.
He's most likely guilty. These allegations aren't new. He's a Scientologist. And Scientology have been trying to bury these cases for awhile.
Well when the mistrial happened people felt he was innocent, now that hes charged hes guilty, when they appeal if he is found not guilty again then what? Is truth and belief really just based on the RNG of who gets into the Jury? Is that actual truth? Will we just flip flop on what "really" happened depending on biased truths? The system is a joke, its just the best we have until we have mind reading, but it doesn't mean much without actual evidence, which there isn't any in this case, so its just bias.
That 90s show without grooves and Hyde and Angie is saddening 😢
I do have to say it's quite odd how women will wait almost 2 decades to claim something happened, usually with no physical evidence to support their claims.
Probably he knew and did it himself
Johnny Depp had to go through shit
Lost his projects
Now Danny Masterson
What a shame
I pray that Danny is innocent
May the truth prevail
Nowadays it's so difficult to set the fiction apart from facts
Was just found guilty on 3 counts. I was hoping he was innocent as well.
Even if he’s found innocent, I doubt Netflix would bring him back for That 90’s Show. Too much controversy.
Not sure why everyone is condemning the fella. He hasn't been convicted of anything.
Hopefully, when you are accused of a crime the people don't show you the same courtesy.
1:46 the only OG absence? Laurie will be missed to
The only OG that’s still alive
Midge and Laurie’s actors both have passed
@@DukeG3 rip
As a adult who was molested by my dad and repeatedly raped by stepfather. I am not convinced of Danny Masterson's guilty this was almost 20 yr. ago and these so called victims coming out now . I am a not church goer . But why did they wait to come out over 20 yr. after it was supposedly happened. As an adult no one would stop me now if I was attacked in the way that they claimed. They continue to live in the same residence with him. Anyone with any common sense would have left. And they said that they were threatened by church that is where the law come in . And after the incident happened more than once they said I wouldn't have stayed in the house they continued to live with Masterson so this is the reason I don't believe them. And them saying they went to the church first and they didn't do anything about it. I wouldn't stop at the church I would have went to the law so that is the reason I don't believe the women. And like I said I was raped and molested as a child not a grown adult
I hate our guiltytill innocent society, even more that it constantly affects the livelihoods before sentences are even passed. If he’s guilty, he’s guilty but until then these companies and corporations need to sack up and stop being so afraid of a headache from the twitterverse in the meantime
They need to raise the standard of evidence beyond a finger poke. They also need to stop trying to tear families apart by retraining our society to not stand by friends and family. They want us divided completely and for us to be programmed enough to ask them to pass laws to give the government and justice system more power. Then before we know it anyone who questions anything will be arrested for anything they want to accuse people of.
Employing an accused rapist is bad PR. The accusations are credible, the evidence is sufficient to justify a trial, and no employer is obligated to cozy up to an accused rapist.
@@patrickbering1988 “Us”?
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564 are u talking about in this specific instance or in general? Bc Johnny Depp is a perfect example of acting hastily and ruining two IPs and relationships that didn’t need to be. Also “accusations are credible”’like wtf does that even mean what’s the point of our trials then u clearly appreciate and have no issue w the guilty till innocent model
@@SilvLocs You’re telling me you don’t know what “credible” means?
imagine waiting so long to press charges. Shouldn't even hold up in the court.
I selfishly want him to be innocent because I missed seeing Hyde on That 90s Show and maybe they could somehow get Hyde and Jackie back together, like they were supposed to be. I also genuinely hope he's innocent for his daughter's sake. But if he isn't then he isn't. I'll trust what ever verdict the jury and the court decide on.
Jackie and Kelso are married and have a son on That 90’s Show
@@amywilkins543 I know. But their marriage doesn't seem very stable from what they said in the episode they appeared in. They suggested their marriage was very on again/off again. And I always thought that she deserved better than Kelso anyway.
@@essy1able Ohhhh ok.
The show about the kids season 2 isn't really going to have cameos
Fez and Jackie were together at the end of the show now Jackie and kelso are .
Im glad the judge did not play the "he famous, so he gets time served and probation." Shame on him.
If he's found innocent,they can always say Hyde was in prison
I always say, innocent till proven guilty. Clearly the evidence isn’t a smoking gun or he wouldn’t have had a hung jury. His friends are being mindful of his daughter so let’s not accuse them of being apart or anything.
Nah it pretty much is obvious. The church of Scientology have their claws in this though and they are the type who do really scummy things
Most men, not all so don’t bombard me, do not have a clue how truly despicable some of their male friends are. That is a sad fact. The face people show their friends and colleagues is not always the face others see. Men who abuse their spouses often defend other women. Rapists are often pillars of the community. Mine was. Do you know how many women said “I’ve been alone with him a hundred times, he never raped me”. It’s why most sexual assaults go unreported. Women are ripped apart and help rip apart other women.
I think they may not have a clue about their actual perverted nature but you can see glimpses of it when you see how they talk about women around you.
@@prairiehorse6168 you’d think. I think too many chalk it up to men being men. I was a nanny when my son was a baby for a close family friend that had lost his wife in a accident, he had two boys, both toddlers. Nicest guy in the world. Had known him for years. I witnessed him nearly kill his girlfriend. In my wildest dreams I would have never thought he was capable of the violence I witnessed. Had someone else have told me that, I would not have believed them. Again, I’m not hating on men. I had seven uncles that were all wonderful men. I had a wonderful brother and my father was a gentle man. My significant other is quite wonderful (don’t tell him I said that or the toilet seat may never go down again 🤣🤣). I sincerely believe there are more good men than bad. Same with women. I know there are women that will lie about being raped and file false charges. I did my best to raise my son right. He turned out to be a fine man and father.
Why would someone wait almost 20 years to say something
Let's not forget that Johnny Depp was cleared of all allegations after everyone trashed him in the beginning
I really pray Danny is found innocent. Sometime this does happen. Sometimes they lock innocent people up and it takes years to prove if ever. They are going to have to work even harder next trial.
Scientology dropped all support for that guy. Pretty much a guilty verdict right there... ^_^
The mindless drones trashed him.
Anyone with a functional brain saw that she was batshit crazy.
Yeah… this aged like milk.
It’s crazy he gets 30 years for rape but I have seen so many murderers only get 5-6-7 years. What’s the problem here?
I guess there’s some sort of debate there, but I think drugging and raping two women should get to 30 years. And that’s all that he’s guilty of who knows what’s gonna happen in the future would even more women come forward
You know, whenever a friend (and it’s happened a few times) gets accused of rape or sexual assault, I purposely remain silent. Reason being… innocent and proven guilty, for sure. And allowing that friend a benefit of a doubt until there is no doubt that accusations are bogus. BUT, it does no good to take a side because the moment you do it becomes detrimental to all victims who feel like it’s impossible to come forward. Even if my friend is innocent…. Some of the attitudes really seem to make it hard for legit victims to come forward. Sometimes to the best thing to do is shut up until the picture is clear.
yeah. when a friend is accused of something like assault, rape, pedophilia, etc etc....its very hard to be scrutinized with a microscope cuz everyone expects ya to take a side. you cant take your friend's side cuz then youre downplaying any possible trauma that may have occured for the victims, but just straight up abandoning a friend when they need that friendship the most just feels wrong. but very often, they lose friends as easily as they gained them, and nobody wants to stand up for them because then theyre equally as bad/guilty in peoples eyes nowadays. *how could you be his friend when he did this??* innocent till proven guilty really just...doesnt exist in society nowadays much anymore.
and i agree that its best to be impartial and just believe that the truth...will hopefully come out. and whatever the outcome, the person/people at fault, face proper justice.
@@mwbwyatt You see, if that friend is acting like that. Giving me the whole “You’re supposed to be my friend and back me up” monologue…. Makes me internally believe his guilt even more. Reasonably, an innocent person would understand someone’s decision to distance themselves from the situation until everything is over. But guilty people tend to act like drowning victims trying to desperately grasp at anything to keep their head above water.
You need to find better friends.
By remaining silent you are taking a side. Silence helps abusers. end of story.
@@121Greenthumb Yeah but see then that works in reverse…. You’re asking me to assume that every accusation is legitimate and treat someone as guilty without a chance for that person of due process. That’s not the right answer either.
30 years !!!🥳🥳🥳. Justice has been served.
Danny's bad actions are directly related to his involvement in Scientology.
Innocent until proven guilty did not apply to Danny from the start, that is not right. His jobs should have continued as normal until a court proves otherwise.
"Some day his child will read about this" maybe don't r*pe people?
Is this the first heavy sentence ever given to an actor / Scientology member who raped without killing? If it is, historians should take note. I am relieved that justice finally has been done after a lot of people thought Scientology and a constantly repeated half-hour sitcom guaranteed a slap on the wrist. Possibly the appeal of the sitcom that includes Mr. Masterson has lost its sense of humor and its entire appeal. If it has, that is good. The real 1970s were bad enough. A stupid half-hour sitcom views the Me Decade through rose-colored glasses, and that makes memories of the decade even more painful for those who are forced to watch reruns in doctors’ office waiting rooms and other tension-filled public places. Mr. Masterson’s two victims have helped expose the sitcom for what it is : tasteless humor based on false generalizations. According to the writers, in the 1970s every young white person did this and did that. Oh, and does anyone ever point out that throughout the real 1970s, the number of reported rapes skyrocketed? Which character on the tasteless sitcom, if any, mentions even one time that a female must learn how to defend herself against a potential rapist?
he didn't rape me so he was a good friend? 😅😅😅
It's a smart comment, not denying Masterson could be guilty, not rejecting him as a friend either.
It's sad because Hyde was my fav on the show. Such a great actor, and such a disappointment to see him end up like this.
Agreed. I was still loving watching him on the Ranch when all the stories from his exes started to come out and they fired him. It was like... Well, I hope the show can recover from this, but getting rid of him is just a tad more important
It was still okay without him, the story was just handled kinda weird. I'm sure they had to think quick
@@melaniemitchell9419 How was it important to get rid of him? Are accusations from bitter exes now evidence? Shouldn't he be punished only after proven guilty of actually having done something wrong? Such an odd mindset to have where anyone can just say anything, and then we have to assume that they are telling the truth before anything at all is presented as evidence. It is equally as insane as saying that if you accuse anyone you also have to get barred from being able to work until you get the guilty verdict. Innocent until proven guilty is not just something we keep around because "it has always been that way." It is around because that is the only thing that makes sense. Maybe he did it, maybe he did not. We don't know. So let him work until he is actually proven guilty. Seems like a very easy way to just ruin a mans life to simply accuse him. Dangerous road to head down.
Anyone involved in the show "The Ranch" should be in prison.
He is disgusting and anyone who supports sexual predators is also disgusting. I'm profoundly disappointed in this young couple. Well, I see what their values are.
It's incredibly hard to prove someone is guilty of something like rape or sexual assault, especially without evidence. What many people don't seem to understand about trials is that they aren't to prove whether or not the defendant did what they're being accused of. They're about if the prosecution can meet their burden of proof to convict. And every state has different standards of that burden of proof that has to be met. Some state's standards are higher than others. And so often does the public tend to side with the accuser that the defendant is often painted as guilty even before the trial begins. There are only two people in these cases that know the truth. The accuser and the accused. And one of them is lying. The trick is trying to figure out which one.
seems odd over 20 years later. I was not there so I do not. I just do not get how almost 20 years later to speak out.
Topher turned out to be the only non weirdo on that show
Topher always seemed like such a sweetheart, too. I’m glad to see his good nature & morals weren’t tainted by Hollywood. Everyone in the cast aside from Danny seemed like genuinely good people before they were casted on the show. Unfortunately, the show seemed to suffer from a heavy influence from Scientology. Scientology casted a shadow upon the whole show.
Ironically, even as a convicted rapist, Danny is considered a “Scientologist in good standing” by the Church and fellow practitioners.
If men don't stand up and tell other men that sexual abuse won't be tolerated, nothing will ever change. Ashton should have stepped up strongly here and he failed to do so, what a missed opportunity..
No he really didnt.. he tried to clear himself from association and skirted any damning speculation. I imagine they are programmed that way in scientology since the victims couldnt even use or say the word rape when filing complaints with police. If you were raised in it, a creep would see this as a soft spot in the system and look to exploit it.. Dont ya think? So, I cant help but wonder how long it went on.. and how many countless victims he would have ran through until he finally found someone that stood up. Knowing it was more likely to be them that would be punished and sent away to scientology reform school..aka scientology jail, than any celebrity status members. A sexual predator would want silent victims that couldnt fight back or file complaints so if found guilty, he will be yet another example of the absolute worst kind of predator looking to take advantage of an entire gender with that belief system. Knowing they wont even be able to file a complaint and if they do it would most likely end there. Since everyone knows Scientology covets and recruits celebrities over its regular members. So the higher ups will always choose to protect the celebs first, because they are of a higher importance to the cult than their regular members. They are used for Public Relations and to aid in recruitment. And therefore held to a much lower standard of conduct respectively and sheilded from any ground level accusations. Just like the real world only worse.
30 years that's crazy.
In this day and age if a close friend or family member is accused of something, then you have to cut off all contact with said person. People on Twitter are so pissed that Ashton is still in touch with Danny. While it may be easy for some people to cut off all contact with someone they've known for years. I think for the majority of people it's difficult to do.
Id would have to see damning evidence. Too many cases of guys lives that have been ruined over blatant lies.
All it takes for a charge and a lot of times a conviction is a simple finger point.
If a jury could not come close to figuring it out well it does not sound like the women claiming it sound very believable.
Sorry but if you wait years/decades to report then you throw away a chance at justice.
Yup most forget about innocent until prove guilty. Also the fact that it took the victims 20years to come out. If it was 2-3yrs it’s understandable but 2 decades later?
Imagine how it would feel to be falsely accused of something and lose nearly all your loved ones when you're innocent? Not commenting specifically about Danny but that has happened to people before, and their innocence has later been proven. It has to be a judgement call on the part of the loved ones of the accused, and it could be a very painful decision to make either way. Here's to a world where people try to empathise with others rather than making snap judgements about their choices 🙏🏼
Twitter is also mad at Mr. Beast for paying for 1000 blind people to have sight recovering surgeries lol, that place is a cesspool
You just generally suck as a person. So good riddance to you for those that no longer have you in their life.
He is part of Scientology and they are known for some extremely disturbing things. I think he is guilty. As much as I love his characters, I don't want to meet him.
Good thing you’re not a judge if you’re going to base it on an assumption
@@Andy-bh8hw There’s years worth of evidence had you actually looked into the case. Had Masterson done it once or twice, he would have gotten away with it. The final victim prompted an investigation of the original police proceedings.
@ommeloise Is there a place online where the case has been dissected with organized info? I haven't followed the case closely but would like to learn to form a fair assessment.
@@cherrytwizzler Idk man, evidence from 20 years ago sounds like it could of been tampered with
@@Aaron-xr7oc It was tampered with by the police. That’s why Scientology’s connection to the police are brought into question. So, it’s not the victims who are messing with the evidence, which is what you’re suggesting.
2001 the police saw no wrong doing. When it was first reported.
2023 the judge ruled mistrial. Same case. the jury (10/2) was headed for acquittal.
If it happened back in 2001-2003. Why did they wait so long to come after him. Maybe they wanted his net worth to be more so they could get more.
No, they were all apart of the church of scientology. The women were forced to stay quiet and deal with it within the church or be kicked out. It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with that cult.
The accusations were made back then it’s just the church of Scientology helped him by harassing his accusers and giving him legal help. It’s just taken this for it to be prosecuted.
I know one of the victims reported it when it happened to the church of scientology. They basically did nothing but cover for him. She broke up with him a couple months later.
Now when she's saying what happened to her to the world, scientologists are threatening her. Somehow her dogs were mysteriously killed while all this other weird stuff was happening.
This makes me feel so sad because I always liked him on that 70 show nothing Ashton Kutcher felt some type of way because both of them played on shows together That 70s Show and the ranch and probably other things they did together so this really hurts Ashton Kutcher because he was like a real brother
I wonder what Ashton has to say now… 🤔
Justice prevails and the court found him Guilty on 2 charges of forcible rape. 15 years to life for each count mean he will be sentenced to prison for years or more.
The Cult of Scientology tried to protect him by preventing the victims from going to the police, then once the victims reported the crimes, the victims became the targets of harassment.
I hope the full involvement of the Cult of Scientology in obstructing justice comes to light in the courts soon!
Guilty or innocent unfortunately none of that matters in Hollywood. One bad rumour ruins your whole career. It kinda sucks.
Sadly, Hollywood is a cesspool. They cover up and protect each others secrets.
im hoping hes innocent, i would love to see hyde in that 90s show as long the show can continue and netflix doesnt cancel it but if hes quilty then ya it sucks
Gee maybe he’s innocent? Not like we’ve seen multiple fake rape allegations against celebrities or political figures right when something big in their careers or life is going to happen
I don’t believe that Ashton didn’t know or hear something about these allegations prior to the public allegations
It’s possible because there’s hardly any evidence that he did the crime in the first place.
When you're close to someone it's hard to believe a stranger over someone you really like & care for, especially if you have a great relationship through out the years.
See no evil hear no evil speak no evil
wholesale?
If Danny is guilty and there is proof he needs to pay BUT if his accusers are lying (for whatever reason) they need to pay too. There are too many women that LIE and BS and it needs to END!
You're more likely to be assaulted than accused of assault
@@daneckabargas6690 there have been many cases where the woman has lied and there have been many cases where the woman was telling the truth. All im saying is that this is not a light situation. Lying about this can ruin someone's life and it is not okay.
If the bloke 'is' guilty of it then he should be punished for it but as we saw with Amber Heard, not all accusations are legit and 'if' he's guilty, I hope legit evidence can be proven and not just hollow accusations.
Well he was found guilty
Masterson not only hurt his victims but also everyone who loved and supported him.
As someone who has been found guilty, did he ever think about the effect it would have on his children? My hope is all of the women affected find peace and healing. It's really disheartening because another piece of TV nostalgia, art, and entertainment are connected to the vicious assaults of human beings. Loved That 70's Show.
Women always claim rape years later when the they are left behind and broke. And 30 years? You think that’s necessary? How can they prove rape from over 20 years ago. This system is fucked
Kangaroo court, almost no incriminating evidence. All bull shit