As someone who has a workshop smaller than a single car garage, this channel has always piqued my interest with storage ideas, so whatever you come up with I’m sure it will be amazing and thought provoking. For me, trying to figure out what tools I absolutely need and which tools are simply “taking up space” is what helps me to maintain the maximum space available for working space. Unfortunately this means (for now at least) that some options are out of my reach. ie, cabinet sawstop, outfeed/assembly table, proper materials and hardware for projects. But this forces me to figure out how to make things another way. To “think outside the box”. So please don’t stop sharing. And I’m sorry about the rolling blackouts 😢
Using your "Z axis" is crucial in small spaces. I do that myself and at almost 2 meters tall, it's easy for me to do. Mobility of things that have to be on the floor is also very helpful. I like the thought processes you're employing with the ideas for the future of your shop. Can't wait to see what you come up with. I find that the simplest solutions are the best in my own small shop.
Bosch is absolutely amazing, you will wonder why you didn’t buy one already. As for over engineering, that is some the best projects you do. I can’t wait to see how you set it up!
I like seeing the results of finished projects first, and then watching how the maker produces them. This way I'm not distracted by trying to figure out what is being built. Whether you choose this path or not, I will still enjoy watching your videos. Cheers.
The main reason I watch your videos is to see your ingenious solutions and designs. I may not build something exactly the same because my shop space is different. You are not too technical, this is your strength. Because you think so far outside the box with your solutions, it inspires me to consider the possibilities of my own projects. To me, this is the beauty of your channel and the reason why I subscribe. Keep up the great work. I look forward to see what you think up next. Cheers.
I think a problem alot of people run into is trying to make a "big shop" in a small space. I like your approach. I have a 3 car garage but I use a little over 1/2 for my workshop and the rest is garage/car parking space. I have tried a few layouts to maximize workflow. Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Good job Juan, good job. Keep doing what you're doing. I am anxious to see your wood storage solution. That is currently the biggest pain in my one garage shop...
I have experience with the U.S. version of the Bosch. I think it is a phenomenal machine, but as you stated, the cost difference is significant. Your videos are great! I personally don't think you should change, but it's not my call. That's 100% up to YOU.
Look, I've watched a lot of your videos, I haven't seen you make something that wasn't a step towards your goal. I think you'll do fine, and for some of us newbies, you're our trailblazer into efficiency and clever design in woodworking. Thanks and peace to you friend.
You covered this but modular, small benches that can be moved and configured. Being able to push them together or into a corner is huge. This is also a design idea that viewers are gonna love and be more interested in making themselves. Integrating tools into benches makes it much more difficult to design for longevity. I believe you can do it but definitely keep simplicity in mind. Good bench is a solid bench.
Sure enjoy the content your provide. I was a carpenter (built furniture) for 25 yrs. I really appreciate how when you don't know something you don't try and snow or BS people. Keep up the great content.
Looking forward to the new shop build. I enjoy seeing your well thought out ideas and unique approaches to your particular size restraints. Working within your shop space and budget are the things I can relate to.
Whenever I look for videos of "small shop" I mainly see videos where people have spaces around 20x20 feet or larger for their so-called small shop. I can't find much on truly small shop ideas. You have been one of the fee that offers true small shop innovations.
I’m interested in seeing what you’ve got in store for this garage build, I too am having space problems, my workshop is 3x4m big and it’s PACKED,,,, after watching all your other videos I’m confident you will surprise us with you ideas, you always seem to have good ones 👍🏻 keep up the good work
Check out the Wen M1215 12” miter saw. I personally have one, and love it. The motor actually rides on the rails, rather than being fixed to them. This feature also allows for zero wall clearance. The major difference is that it’s significantly cheaper than the Bosch you’re looking at. Wen is one of the companies responsible for the creation of power tools, and has been around since 1951.
My Miter saw for against the wall is the 10” Makita. I did have trouble with the saw as soon as it came out of the box. There was wobble in either the bearings or the arbor shaft ? Makita stood behind the saw and its a WONDERFUL saw now. Good luck , shop space is a HUGE puzzle and constant challenge.
I have that saw and really like it. For a miter saw it comes with decent dust collection compared to most others. It is more expensive but I think the quality is there.
A joy to watch your videos. Always inspiring and I admire your imagination to keep coming up with great ideas and sharing your knowledge. Well done. One Handed Maker - Australia
Dude you are all good. No matter what you do you will always want to do something different later. Striving for perfections is noble, however unattainable. You have however given me a great idea for my workshop. I was going to build one large bench to rule all my tools, however after hearing what you were saying, I realised i could build a separate table for my Dewalt thicknesser on an oversized flip top stand which would then flip to bench height and when not being used I could have on the other side a clip in doghole bench and clamp. I am not sure if this design in my head will work, but my point is you are on a journey and your creativity helps others. Thanks mate
Just a thought on mounting the air compressor overhead.... Be sure that you can easily access the water drain and its valve as well as the meter and regulator controls.
Love your show! Can’t wait to see what you think up next! I’m a big fan of small and mobile since I’m A petite female. I’m blessed to have a big shop but I don’t have the strength and height to work with large pieces. I’ve purchased all of your plans in the past. Can’t wait to pick up this latest cabinet.
I am very much looking forward to see what you do in your shop. I'm starting to clear out my little shop to improve the ergonomics and work-flow. Your solutions have always been well thought out, with excellent video presentation. Thank you for continuing your efforts.
Replaced a Makita saw with the Bosch. The zero wall clearance is a big plus, it is also very accurate. Cutting mitres is accurate, meaning I can cut them quicker than setting up the mitre gauge on the table saw.
Don't change your video style. I'm very interested in the overhead wiring and air compressor ideas. I'm 68 and need to rely on mechanical advantage more every year. Great channel!
I just bought that miter saw about 2 days ago and so far its amazing. The expanding wings were a very pleasant surprise and the sliding mechanism is smooth and feels VERY sturdy. I was on the fence buying it for a few months, but super glad I pulled the trigger.
I don't own the Bosch GCM-12, but I have used it. Comparing its features to my current miter saw, which is a DeWalt, I have to say the biggest advantage is the zero-wall clearance. Keep in mind, it has a smaller footprint as well, since there are no sliding arms swinging on the back either. And the better dust collection. (I built a box around mine to combat the dust a miter saw tends to generate...which of course added to the clearance needed) And the smoother operation. (the DeWalt is great, but the Bosch requres a lot less effort to operate) And the more solid depth stop. (not sure how often you use this, but I use mine all the time and it's...I'll just call it bouncy) Plus, something that likely doesn't affect you but still...no mixed SAE/metric parts. DeWalt does that on their American models. (I prefer metric because it's sane, but either way, a single system is always preferred) Overall, I'd say that were I able to afford it, I'd upgrade to the Bosch myself.
Hi Jean. Have you ever had a look at how Ron Paulk designed his Smart Benches? I really like the idea of being able to hang the benches on wall cleats when I need the space and the space it has for the tools that you use. Sometimes I need outfeed tables and other times I need open space. My philosopy is also to have as little tools as possible, like the bare minimum. Also, I built a traditional tool chest on casters. It is amazing how many tools you can fit into a good english tool chest. It also keeps them dust/rust free. Can't wait to see what you plan on doing next!
looking forward to the small shop set up. I have a very small workspace and have looked for some ideas to use the small space i have. I like you need to have very versitile bench and have the ability to use it in different ways. Keep going cannot wait for the videos.
Jean, maybe for overhead storage, small motor and pulley systems could be used. Bring the storage down to you, instead of climbing up to it. With the proper design, you can lift a good load, with a relatively small motor. I may be slow, but it is all about space. 😁✌🖖
You always have fantastic content and brilliant ideas on how to approach projects. Keep it up! Regarding the miter saw I have the Bosch saw (for several years) and I love it. The flat against the wall feature is great, but besides that it is rock solid and extremely accurate, and while no miter saw has great dust collection there are aftermarket add-ons that work very well. For a small shop the Bosch mechanism can’t be beat.
Please don’t change your style. I’m eager to see how you approach your refurbishment, as I am just creating my own workshop. I would think twice about the Bosch or at least wait until you’ve finished designing your space. I’m using my table saw more and only have a small chop saw now and it’s working well so far.
Thank you very much for your videos. Have you considered looking for a soft start module or controller for your saw. This will reduce the initial current draw of the motor to a reasonable level and result in a smoother on sequence. I am sure that with minimal modification you could also use the soft start module to function as a very effective emergency stop
Very interested to see what you come up with. I have a single car garage that has to share between woodwork and yard/garden so space is premium. I think my first big woodshop purchase was my miter saw - Bosch 10" sliding compound saw. I love it. I'm fortunate to have a concrete driveway and most of my cutting and sanding is done outside to minimize the sawdust. So far most tools are on rolling stands so makes it easy to setup outside and roll back in for the night.
I am sure you musty have thought of this before ? you know best if it is possible - I built a little shed against my garage on outside - you could store your compressor in this shed and just have power and air line feeding into garage . pipe against wall with well placed outlets will mean you plug in where you need - yet keeping some noise out of garage
I have the bosch mitre saw with a smaller side work shop, Its a fantastic saw absolutely brilliant, you do save some space with it. HOWEVER the dust extraction is terrible!! I know you can get 3D printer plans to make an new dust extractor that will make it a thousand times better, however I do not own a 3D printer so have learned to deal with it.
Jean, SO glad you decided to keep the Wadkin. I think there is always going to be a trade off for mobility/adaptability - it's never going to be as efficient as a dedicated space, but I still think it's a great concept. It's similar to what I'm trying to achieve in my shop, except my flexibility is because I still want to park a car inside! I really like your projects and videos and look forward to more!
The 12" Bosch Glide is a nice saw minus the dust collection. I sold mine and bought a 10" Makita front slide saw. It is an awesome saw with great dust collection and about the same price as the Bosch (at least in the USA). Hope this helps! Good luck!
I love supporting your channel! Keep up the great work! I have the Bosch miter saw but it's the first one I've ever owned so I don't have any point of comparison. It's really great for my needs. I have a fairly small workshop and all of my tools are on their own rolling stands/carts with the same table height based on my preference (42 inches for me since I'm 6ft tall). I also have two 4'x2' rolling work tables at the same height which have storage underneath and locking casters. Looking forward to all your future content!!
Looking forward to a workbench build video. Take as long as you need to design, but commit to a time span for how long you want to keep the large power tools. Make sure you get something for what you are getting rid of. You dont want to build the thing and replace a tool one year later.
Please take a look at Makita Miter Saw options........they have the same space saving offering with.......in my opinion the best dust collection set up. Whatever you do, I wish you much fun in all that is ahead of you!
Hi Jean, can't help with your mitre saw choice but keep going the way you have and your final design and builds will come out brilliantly I'm sure. Your ideas and vision are great, as are your attention to detail and execution, so believe in yourself and keep trooping on. Hope all is well with you and your family (that's where your time goes! 😉) and good luck. 👍 Good luck also for a couple of weeks time from an English man! 🏉🇿🇦🏉 (🏴🙄😅)
The Bosch is a good saw, but a dust monster. Just have a search on RUclips on how many people tried to get it under control, most failed. The Makita shares a similar price point with similar features, but a lot cleaner and then there is Festool.
Mate I’ve got the Bosch mitre saw and I looked at it for almost 18 months before I made the decision to buy it. I got a deal at a tool show but it still cost me £900 gbp but it came with the trolley stand that I thought I’d never use but I actually do and it’s without doubt one of the best purchases I’ve made for my workshops. The saw is brilliant and works really well the features are very good and the build quality is excellent. The movement is so smooth and despite it being a heavy tool it is so easy to slide in and out with barely one finger. The only thing you’ll find is the dust extraction isn’t perfect but drew fisher of fishers workshop improved his. If you get one I honestly think you won’t be disappointed and you’ll never buy another one again. Plus they now do a cordless version too 👍🏻
For that 2kW motor you could also look into a soft start system, that takes the load off the breaker. Once it's spinning it really should only ramp up when cutting very heavy slabs, so it could very well be that it'll never trip the breaker
My workshop is also tiny at 4mx3.5m. So everything is mobile and storage is on high shelves and cupboards. As you mention, shared space is the key to organisation, so infeed and outfeed space can be used to access multiple machines. I have the Makita LS1019 sliding mitre saw which I picked up second hand. The forward facing rails and the front mounted lock knob for the tilt mechanism are so much better than anything with a rear rail system. I have it mounted on a flip cart with my planer as the balancing machine.
Hello Jean. I think it is completely attainable. I have my table saw, 14" band saw, router table cabinet, lathe cabinet, drill press cabinet and two work benches all on heavy duty wheels in my single car garage workshop. Dust Collection, cabinets, storage, wall storage, wood storage are all above bench height as you noted. Before you jump into the Bosch miter saw take a look at the Makita LS1219L or LS1019L. I have seen many people comment that the Bosch (or Delta or Rigid with similar mechanisms) feel that it is not as stable/repeatable as it should be and that it deflects too easily. I have an old Porter Cable 12" non-sliding saw and have been looking at the Makitas as a replacement front runner. It uses a more traditional dual rail/rod system but is configured in a way that gives it good rear clearance.
I love it that you constantly try to improve your small space. I'm in the same situation as you, I only have a single garage, and I even have to fit a car into it at wintertime! So exploiting every centimeter is crucial and this is why I follow you, we have the same project you and I ;) Love your editing, sound is great and projects are great (even the ones you are scrapping, lol), What I would like to se however are some videos that are less edited, maybe slightly more longform and not so chopped up, But that would be a bonus for me, Keep up the good work!
I like the Ideas you always come up with to maximise the space you have, did you ever think do mount the mitre saw (which you probably not use soooo often as you think now) on the wall on a slitting system? bring her down when you need and back up when you don't
Personally, the Bosch GCM-12 was a great investment. The lower wall clearance is great if you need to get the saw right against a wall to save space like you mentioned. However, it isn't exactly zero because if you are making a miter cut, the belt housing does need some space to rotate. The saw is belt driven and has plenty of torque to cut through large, dense stock. There are three upgrades I recommend though: a larger fence for support, a zero clearance insert to prevent off cuts falling into the throat plate and help direct more saw dust to the dust boot, and an upgrade dust boot like ShopNation has engineered. There are other saws with low wall clearance. Some, like the Delta 12" Cruzer have articulating arms like the Bosch while others simply have the tube rails coming out the front instead of the rear.
He man great info video, I live in SA had have a bunch the same tools. I started with the Metabo, and now have been using the Bosch that you are looking at, an can tell you it's a beast. It does everything better, but there are 2 down side to it, one is THERE IS NO DUST COLLECTION, and second its HEAVY. your current way of flipping up the miter saw will not work with the Bosch. then look into hose reels, you can get empty once from Adendorff, and the same with retractable leads, They are pricey but wort it, and would met you setup for videos easier . Good luck and hope you have fun with it, I know your pain. And you are doing a great job and is very entertaining.
I have the Bosch, and honestly it's a very good, but not excellent, saw... At least the one in the USA. There are a few quibbles, but the main thing is that the cool armature mechanism has way too much side to side play in it. For the price, i find it unacceptable, but i got mine barely used for a very good price, so bought it anyway. If you have access to it, I'd recommend checking out the the Makita with the front facing rails. I don't own that exact model, but my rear facing rails version is much more solid than the axial glide arm, and the front rails seem to be as well. Also, if you don't have specific need for a 12" saw, I recommend the 10" instead. My Bosch is the 12, but rarely need that capacity and the saw is big and heavy, with much more expensive blades that have more deflection in them, so they are a little less accurate. I find the 10" slider the best compromise of size, accuracy, capacity, and ongoing costs for the vast majority of users. Bigger is not always better even if you have the room, but in a small shop, much more so. Looking forward to seeing what all you come up with!
If you want it to make you more efficient, key thing to implement is quick release - try and minimise any screw/bolt adapters; latches, magnets, cleats etc are all your friends in switching set ups quickly
I feel compelled to give an opposing opinion re the Bosch mitre saw. I replaced a fixed-head Dewalt saw about two years ago….and initially I REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted the Bosch saw, for the obvious reasons. I began looking at RUclips reviews and came across several users who were very disappointed with the accuracy of the cuts. One in particular was very comprehensive, with him showing video of his zero clearance throat after a period of use. Right up against the fence the cut was probably good enough, but at the extended end of the cut it was all over the place. He also outlined his attempt to have Bosch look at his saw, and that was pointless….they required him to pay for two-way shipping, the cost of which was prohibitive. I still wanted this saw to work for me…the visual appearance of the engineering impressed the hell out of me. I visited two different tool dealerships and examined their display models. On both occasion the left-right flex, when the saw was at full extension, was completely unacceptable. Of note….it didn’t take much force to make it flex…I completely understood what the previously mentioned reviewer was dealing with, and so much for the “appearance” of clever engineering. The good news is that it’s easy to determine if what I’m saying is still valid…just give it the flex test….👍🏼
I love thé ambition. I am thinking along similar lines for modular workbenches using ideas from yourself, Paoson Woodworking, Hooked on Wood and Rings Workshop.
Used the Bosch, Makita and Fesstool zero clearance mitersaws. Festool is probably the best but honestly I prefer the Makita, just feels better. And about 1/2 the cost. The Bosch we had nothing but problems with. The joints become sloppy rather quickly loosing its accuracy. Had it replaced once, and that one repaired once before selling it off and getting the Makita, which was flawless. If not needing the big 10 or 12 inch blade you can also get the Makita in 7 1/2” (190mm?) blade in cordless for about the cost of the Bosch. And help with power issues that way? Just a thought.
Can’t wait to see what you come up with. I think you’ve used some really slick methods to build your previous shop bench. Honestly I’m not sure how the larger table saw will help with the space issue, I know you’re facing a challenge building around it.
If it's available in your country, AEG (Ridgid in the US) now has a miter saw with articulating arms like the Bosch and, at least in the US, is at a cheaper price point than the Bosch. Ridgid model number R4241 & R4251
Miter saw: zero wall clearance is a must for a micro shop, so you either need to store the Metabo or similar saws rotated to 45° or get a zero back clearance saw. The 45° sportage solution requires you pull the saw away from the wall to use, then 45 it &push back for storage; whether that also requires adjusting "wing" support out from the wall would depend on design. A really slick design would be to live w/the Metabo & design a setup you can transition later to Bosch which is the best short of the money suck that is Festool. That gives you a nice value add for all us money & space constrained viewers for a) the design aspects & b) the added episodes for the transition. One of the great features of Bosch is it can be upgraded for MUCH better dust collection (which I note has not been a high priority for you) and that's another episode when you get there
I would say its hugely overengineering. HOWEVER, how fun is it to overengineer and geek out on it? Go for it! I subscribed and I am looking forward to it!
Thanks for keeping it interserting and raising expectations for new ideas... should be fun to watch! Have fun with it, stay focused on "why you do what you do" more than, "what you do"... Even amongst the ever changing whims of the utube algorithms! They are becoming more antagonistic and controlling toward you all... Personally, I couldn't work for them! utube givith and utube taketh away!
If you like your Metabo saw and your only problem is that you can't push it all the way back to the wall, the "Metabo KGSV 72 XACT" or the "Metabo KGSV 72 XACT SYM" might be worth considering. I use the latter one and am absolutely happy with it. However, it has a smaller blade than the Bosch.
Pretty ambitious to have a mobile workshop. A 3 or 4 part workbench is a very good idea. Do that. If you're using 1 fase electrics you can make a retractable suspended power plug from the ceiling.
This is an interesting concept, and I am very much looking forward to how your achieve your goal. I will say that the term "dynamic" has me a little nervous. My biggest issue when I try to make a system where things are more "free flowing" is, because I am constantly moving things around, I tend to forget where I place things. This leads to a lack of efficiency because I have to try and remember what I was previously doing, and then think why it was efficient for me to place a tool in a specific spot during that project. On the other hand, it could just be my "old man brain" and my declining memory. :)
Never had one but if I could I would get a festool mitre saw, I watch Jon peters in the USA who is a professional carpenter who had the bosh but decided to change as the bosh kept misaligning
I have the DWS 774 216mm £160 and the LS1219L £5xx something. They have both gone right up in price now. Weight is the huge difference. It's like comparing Malcolm Marx with Theo Dan
Go for it, you'll have so much fun making these modules, you have great imagination and visualisation coupled with engineering skill. Will be good for your viewers when we want to make more usable and flexible spaces.
I don't know if you follow @Tested but take a look at some of the carts that Adam Savage has made. He makes use of a lot of mobile carts. His workshop might be bigger than yours, but some of his philosophy might be helpful to you.
If it were me I would hold off on buying the new Miter Saw. Why not build a crosscut sled for your table saw that has a mitering capabilities and see if that is enough. Then keep your current miter saw up out of the way for those projects that ate just too long for a crosscut sled and pull it out as needed. Throw a french cleat on the bottom so you can hang it up out of the way.
I love the energy you bring to your channel and your content. I look forward to seeing the redesign of the shop. I'm glad you decided to keep the table saw, that was one of my favorite projects you've done. Cheers!
I think you should define how the shop will be used. What types of projects will typically be performed? Home renovations require different things than furniture making, for example. I think if you are aiming for a shop that does it all, you will end up with one that does nothing well
A dynamic workshop is a necessity for you given your space constraints. However, how will you ensure that the benches are level with one another when you move them around? Having to level them each time you change the configuration will be too much of a time suck. Is there some way you can ensure that the floor of your workshop is level?
If you want to stay agil, is it really necessary to have a miter saw? A good sledge and a miter angle fence on the circular saw save a lot of space and fullfiled all the needs, no? I least I'm doing it
In general your vision of a dynamic workshop is a great idea. I would love to have the opportunity to build one myself. My only concern is that you run into a circle where you lose your real goal out of sight. You want a workshop to be able to realise your projects, but first you have to do so many projects to build your workshop that you won´t have the time to build any of your real projects in the next 1-2 years. Maybe it would be better to upgrade your workshop step by step besides the projects you really want to realise.
Unless... the creator enjoys upgrading on a regular basis. My shop has been dismantled in the same space by my choice twice and twice without a choice. I'm looking forward to designing and building a new shop. 😊
My two cents: I'd focus on productivity (video-productivity that is) rather than spending too much time on editing quality. I guess publishing more regularly would benefit the traction of the channel better and that could generate more revenue that you could use to maybe hand over editing jobs to an external party. About the shop itself: modular is probably the way to go but make sure changing the layout doesn't take too much time, or you won't use it as intended, but you'd probably figured that out already...
As someone who has a workshop smaller than a single car garage, this channel has always piqued my interest with storage ideas, so whatever you come up with I’m sure it will be amazing and thought provoking. For me, trying to figure out what tools I absolutely need and which tools are simply “taking up space” is what helps me to maintain the maximum space available for working space. Unfortunately this means (for now at least) that some options are out of my reach. ie, cabinet sawstop, outfeed/assembly table, proper materials and hardware for projects. But this forces me to figure out how to make things another way. To “think outside the box”. So please don’t stop sharing. And I’m sorry about the rolling blackouts 😢
I don’t think there are many better RUclipsrs to imagine and design clever solutions to suit small spaces.
Using your "Z axis" is crucial in small spaces. I do that myself and at almost 2 meters tall, it's easy for me to do. Mobility of things that have to be on the floor is also very helpful. I like the thought processes you're employing with the ideas for the future of your shop. Can't wait to see what you come up with. I find that the simplest solutions are the best in my own small shop.
Agreed. When you have limited square footage, you need to find ways to go up and/or down!
Bosch is absolutely amazing, you will wonder why you didn’t buy one already. As for over engineering, that is some the best projects you do. I can’t wait to see how you set it up!
My only request would be to make more content. I enjoy every video you post because everything you do is so well thought out and explained.
Ive had the bosch 11 years and its had some serious use on site and in the workshop and i can confirm its a great saw. Go for it !
Looking forward to the project, Jean! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I like seeing the results of finished projects first, and then watching how the maker produces them. This way I'm not distracted by trying to figure out what is being built. Whether you choose this path or not, I will still enjoy watching your videos. Cheers.
Agree. Seeing the finished product first helps understanding the build process.
The main reason I watch your videos is to see your ingenious solutions and designs. I may not build something exactly the same because my shop space is different. You are not too technical, this is your strength. Because you think so far outside the box with your solutions, it inspires me to consider the possibilities of my own projects. To me, this is the beauty of your channel and the reason why I subscribe. Keep up the great work. I look forward to see what you think up next. Cheers.
Thank you for the updates.
Look forward to seeing what you come up with.
I think a problem alot of people run into is trying to make a "big shop" in a small space. I like your approach. I have a 3 car garage but I use a little over 1/2 for my workshop and the rest is garage/car parking space. I have tried a few layouts to maximize workflow.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
Go for it! Can't wait to see the result.
Good job Juan, good job. Keep doing what you're doing. I am anxious to see your wood storage solution. That is currently the biggest pain in my one garage shop...
look forward to seeing the new shop progress 👍🏼and hopefully get some tips and tricks along the way
I have experience with the U.S. version of the Bosch. I think it is a phenomenal machine, but as you stated, the cost difference is significant.
Your videos are great! I personally don't think you should change, but it's not my call. That's 100% up to YOU.
Looking forward to V.2!
Look, I've watched a lot of your videos, I haven't seen you make something that wasn't a step towards your goal. I think you'll do fine, and for some of us newbies, you're our trailblazer into efficiency and clever design in woodworking. Thanks and peace to you friend.
I have the Bosch saw and it's amazing. Very much worth the price, even for the weekend warrior.
You covered this but modular, small benches that can be moved and configured. Being able to push them together or into a corner is huge. This is also a design idea that viewers are gonna love and be more interested in making themselves.
Integrating tools into benches makes it much more difficult to design for longevity. I believe you can do it but definitely keep simplicity in mind. Good bench is a solid bench.
Sure enjoy the content your provide. I was a carpenter (built furniture) for 25 yrs. I really appreciate how when you don't know something you don't try and snow or BS people. Keep up the great content.
Looking forward to the new shop build. I enjoy seeing your well thought out ideas and unique approaches to your particular size restraints.
Working within your shop space and budget are the things I can relate to.
Whenever I look for videos of "small shop" I mainly see videos where people have spaces around 20x20 feet or larger for their so-called small shop. I can't find much on truly small shop ideas. You have been one of the fee that offers true small shop innovations.
Love your videos and style. Looking forward to see what you have planned.
I have the Bosch GCM 12 and I can't overstate what an incredible Mitre Saw it is! No regrets.
I’m interested in seeing what you’ve got in store for this garage build, I too am having space problems, my workshop is 3x4m big and it’s PACKED,,,, after watching all your other videos I’m confident you will surprise us with you ideas, you always seem to have good ones 👍🏻 keep up the good work
Thats not a workshop thats a storage room
Love my Bosch Glide 12, it’s an amazing saw. There are even some sellers that have a custom dust boot to improve the dust collection at the blade.
Check out the Wen M1215 12” miter saw. I personally have one, and love it. The motor actually rides on the rails, rather than being fixed to them. This feature also allows for zero wall clearance. The major difference is that it’s significantly cheaper than the Bosch you’re looking at. Wen is one of the companies responsible for the creation of power tools, and has been around since 1951.
My Miter saw for against the wall is the 10” Makita. I did have trouble with the saw as soon as it came out of the box. There was wobble in either the bearings or the arbor shaft ? Makita stood behind the saw and its a WONDERFUL saw now. Good luck , shop space is a HUGE puzzle and constant challenge.
I love my Bosch 12 inch miter saw. Very high quality! You will not be disappointed.
I have that saw and really like it. For a miter saw it comes with decent dust collection compared to most others. It is more expensive but I think the quality is there.
I don't have any recommendations for improvements. I enjoy your videos as they are. Thank you for sharing what you are doing.
A joy to watch your videos.
Always inspiring and I admire your imagination to keep coming up with great ideas and sharing your knowledge.
Well done.
One Handed Maker - Australia
Dude you are all good. No matter what you do you will always want to do something different later. Striving for perfections is noble, however unattainable. You have however given me a great idea for my workshop. I was going to build one large bench to rule all my tools, however after hearing what you were saying, I realised i could build a separate table for my Dewalt thicknesser on an oversized flip top stand which would then flip to bench height and when not being used I could have on the other side a clip in doghole bench and clamp. I am not sure if this design in my head will work, but my point is you are on a journey and your creativity helps others. Thanks mate
Just a thought on mounting the air compressor overhead.... Be sure that you can easily access the water drain and its valve as well as the meter and regulator controls.
Love your show! Can’t wait to see what you think up next! I’m a big fan of small and mobile since I’m
A petite female. I’m blessed to have a big shop but I don’t have the strength and height to work with large pieces. I’ve purchased all of your plans in the past. Can’t wait to pick up this latest cabinet.
I am very much looking forward to see what you do in your shop. I'm starting to clear out my little shop to improve the ergonomics and work-flow. Your solutions have always been well thought out, with excellent video presentation. Thank you for continuing your efforts.
Replaced a Makita saw with the Bosch. The zero wall clearance is a big plus, it is also very accurate. Cutting mitres is accurate, meaning I can cut them quicker than setting up the mitre gauge on the table saw.
Don't change your video style. I'm very interested in the overhead wiring and air compressor ideas. I'm 68 and need to rely on mechanical advantage more every year. Great channel!
I just bought that miter saw about 2 days ago and so far its amazing. The expanding wings were a very pleasant surprise and the sliding mechanism is smooth and feels VERY sturdy. I was on the fence buying it for a few months, but super glad I pulled the trigger.
I don't own the Bosch GCM-12, but I have used it.
Comparing its features to my current miter saw, which is a DeWalt, I have to say the biggest advantage is the zero-wall clearance.
Keep in mind, it has a smaller footprint as well, since there are no sliding arms swinging on the back either.
And the better dust collection.
(I built a box around mine to combat the dust a miter saw tends to generate...which of course added to the clearance needed)
And the smoother operation.
(the DeWalt is great, but the Bosch requres a lot less effort to operate)
And the more solid depth stop.
(not sure how often you use this, but I use mine all the time and it's...I'll just call it bouncy)
Plus, something that likely doesn't affect you but still...no mixed SAE/metric parts. DeWalt does that on their American models.
(I prefer metric because it's sane, but either way, a single system is always preferred)
Overall, I'd say that were I able to afford it, I'd upgrade to the Bosch myself.
Hi Jean. Have you ever had a look at how Ron Paulk designed his Smart Benches? I really like the idea of being able to hang the benches on wall cleats when I need the space and the space it has for the tools that you use. Sometimes I need outfeed tables and other times I need open space. My philosopy is also to have as little tools as possible, like the bare minimum. Also, I built a traditional tool chest on casters. It is amazing how many tools you can fit into a good english tool chest. It also keeps them dust/rust free. Can't wait to see what you plan on doing next!
looking forward to the small shop set up. I have a very small workspace and have looked for some ideas to use the small space i have. I like you need to have very versitile bench and have the ability to use it in different ways. Keep going cannot wait for the videos.
Jean, maybe for overhead storage, small motor and pulley systems could be used.
Bring the storage down to you, instead of climbing up to it. With the proper design, you
can lift a good load, with a relatively small motor. I may be slow, but it is all about space. 😁✌🖖
I am really looking forward to this series ... it will give me ideas for my garage/workshop build.
You always have fantastic content and brilliant ideas on how to approach projects. Keep it up!
Regarding the miter saw I have the Bosch saw (for several years) and I love it. The flat against the wall feature is great, but besides that it is rock solid and extremely accurate, and while no miter saw has great dust collection there are aftermarket add-ons that work very well. For a small shop the Bosch mechanism can’t be beat.
Please don’t change your style. I’m eager to see how you approach your refurbishment, as I am just creating my own workshop. I would think twice about the Bosch or at least wait until you’ve finished designing your space. I’m using my table saw more and only have a small chop saw now and it’s working well so far.
Thank you very much for your videos. Have you considered looking for a soft start module or controller for your saw. This will reduce the initial current draw of the motor to a reasonable level and result in a smoother on sequence. I am sure that with minimal modification you could also use the soft start module to function as a very effective emergency stop
Very interested to see what you come up with. I have a single car garage that has to share between woodwork and yard/garden so space is premium. I think my first big woodshop purchase was my miter saw - Bosch 10" sliding compound saw. I love it. I'm fortunate to have a concrete driveway and most of my cutting and sanding is done outside to minimize the sawdust. So far most tools are on rolling stands so makes it easy to setup outside and roll back in for the night.
I am sure you musty have thought of this before ?
you know best if it is possible - I built a little shed against my garage on outside - you could store your compressor in this shed and just have power and air line feeding into garage . pipe against wall with well placed outlets
will mean you plug in where you need - yet keeping some noise out of garage
I have the bosch mitre saw with a smaller side work shop, Its a fantastic saw absolutely brilliant, you do save some space with it. HOWEVER the dust extraction is terrible!! I know you can get 3D printer plans to make an new dust extractor that will make it a thousand times better, however I do not own a 3D printer so have learned to deal with it.
Jean, SO glad you decided to keep the Wadkin. I think there is always going to be a trade off for mobility/adaptability - it's never going to be as efficient as a dedicated space, but I still think it's a great concept. It's similar to what I'm trying to achieve in my shop, except my flexibility is because I still want to park a car inside! I really like your projects and videos and look forward to more!
The 12" Bosch Glide is a nice saw minus the dust collection. I sold mine and bought a 10" Makita front slide saw. It is an awesome saw with great dust collection and about the same price as the Bosch (at least in the USA). Hope this helps! Good luck!
I love supporting your channel! Keep up the great work! I have the Bosch miter saw but it's the first one I've ever owned so I don't have any point of comparison. It's really great for my needs. I have a fairly small workshop and all of my tools are on their own rolling stands/carts with the same table height based on my preference (42 inches for me since I'm 6ft tall). I also have two 4'x2' rolling work tables at the same height which have storage underneath and locking casters.
Looking forward to all your future content!!
Thanks! Really appreciate it!
Looking forward to a workbench build video. Take as long as you need to design, but commit to a time span for how long you want to keep the large power tools. Make sure you get something for what you are getting rid of. You dont want to build the thing and replace a tool one year later.
Please take a look at Makita Miter Saw options........they have the same space saving offering with.......in my opinion the best dust collection set up. Whatever you do, I wish you much fun in all that is ahead of you!
Hi Jean, can't help with your mitre saw choice but keep going the way you have and your final design and builds will come out brilliantly I'm sure.
Your ideas and vision are great, as are your attention to detail and execution, so believe in yourself and keep trooping on.
Hope all is well with you and your family (that's where your time goes! 😉) and good luck. 👍
Good luck also for a couple of weeks time from an English man!
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The Bosch is a good saw, but a dust monster. Just have a search on RUclips on how many people tried to get it under control, most failed.
The Makita shares a similar price point with similar features, but a lot cleaner and then there is Festool.
Mate I’ve got the Bosch mitre saw and I looked at it for almost 18 months before I made the decision to buy it. I got a deal at a tool show but it still cost me £900 gbp but it came with the trolley stand that I thought I’d never use but I actually do and it’s without doubt one of the best purchases I’ve made for my workshops. The saw is brilliant and works really well the features are very good and the build quality is excellent. The movement is so smooth and despite it being a heavy tool it is so easy to slide in and out with barely one finger. The only thing you’ll find is the dust extraction isn’t perfect but drew fisher of fishers workshop improved his. If you get one I honestly think you won’t be disappointed and you’ll never buy another one again. Plus they now do a cordless version too 👍🏻
Love your projects. Looking forward to your quest.
For that 2kW motor you could also look into a soft start system, that takes the load off the breaker. Once it's spinning it really should only ramp up when cutting very heavy slabs, so it could very well be that it'll never trip the breaker
That is definitely a option I will consider.
I think a dynamic workshop in terms of using the floor space flexibly is a great idea.
My workshop is also tiny at 4mx3.5m. So everything is mobile and storage is on high shelves and cupboards. As you mention, shared space is the key to organisation, so infeed and outfeed space can be used to access multiple machines. I have the Makita LS1019 sliding mitre saw which I picked up second hand. The forward facing rails and the front mounted lock knob for the tilt mechanism are so much better than anything with a rear rail system. I have it mounted on a flip cart with my planer as the balancing machine.
Ça promet de belles vidéos en perspectives, j’attends avec impatience,à bientôt salut Jeannot ⚒😉
The Bosch is something I'm working to. That from what I hear is the Cadillac of chop saws.
Hello Jean. I think it is completely attainable. I have my table saw, 14" band saw, router table cabinet, lathe cabinet, drill press cabinet and two work benches all on heavy duty wheels in my single car garage workshop. Dust Collection, cabinets, storage, wall storage, wood storage are all above bench height as you noted. Before you jump into the Bosch miter saw take a look at the Makita LS1219L or LS1019L. I have seen many people comment that the Bosch (or Delta or Rigid with similar mechanisms) feel that it is not as stable/repeatable as it should be and that it deflects too easily. I have an old Porter Cable 12" non-sliding saw and have been looking at the Makitas as a replacement front runner. It uses a more traditional dual rail/rod system but is configured in a way that gives it good rear clearance.
Go for the shop upgrade. But, there is always a but, don't fall in love with an idea, because it's cool. Think practicality one all else.
I love it that you constantly try to improve your small space. I'm in the same situation as you, I only have a single garage, and I even have to fit a car into it at wintertime! So exploiting every centimeter is crucial and this is why I follow you, we have the same project you and I ;) Love your editing, sound is great and projects are great (even the ones you are scrapping, lol), What I would like to se however are some videos that are less edited, maybe slightly more longform and not so chopped up, But that would be a bonus for me, Keep up the good work!
I have the 12” Bosch. It’s fantastic…dust collection has a bit to be desired though.
I like the Ideas you always come up with to maximise the space you have, did you ever think do mount the mitre saw (which you probably not use soooo often as you think now) on the wall on a slitting system? bring her down when you need and back up when you don't
Personally, the Bosch GCM-12 was a great investment. The lower wall clearance is great if you need to get the saw right against a wall to save space like you mentioned. However, it isn't exactly zero because if you are making a miter cut, the belt housing does need some space to rotate. The saw is belt driven and has plenty of torque to cut through large, dense stock. There are three upgrades I recommend though: a larger fence for support, a zero clearance insert to prevent off cuts falling into the throat plate and help direct more saw dust to the dust boot, and an upgrade dust boot like ShopNation has engineered. There are other saws with low wall clearance. Some, like the Delta 12" Cruzer have articulating arms like the Bosch while others simply have the tube rails coming out the front instead of the rear.
He man great info video, I live in SA had have a bunch the same tools. I started with the Metabo, and now have been using the Bosch that you are looking at, an can tell you it's a beast. It does everything better, but there are 2 down side to it, one is THERE IS NO DUST COLLECTION, and second its HEAVY. your current way of flipping up the miter saw will not work with the Bosch. then look into hose reels, you can get empty once from Adendorff, and the same with retractable leads, They are pricey but wort it, and would met you setup for videos easier . Good luck and hope you have fun with it, I know your pain. And you are doing a great job and is very entertaining.
I have the Bosch, and honestly it's a very good, but not excellent, saw... At least the one in the USA. There are a few quibbles, but the main thing is that the cool armature mechanism has way too much side to side play in it. For the price, i find it unacceptable, but i got mine barely used for a very good price, so bought it anyway.
If you have access to it, I'd recommend checking out the the Makita with the front facing rails. I don't own that exact model, but my rear facing rails version is much more solid than the axial glide arm, and the front rails seem to be as well.
Also, if you don't have specific need for a 12" saw, I recommend the 10" instead. My Bosch is the 12, but rarely need that capacity and the saw is big and heavy, with much more expensive blades that have more deflection in them, so they are a little less accurate. I find the 10" slider the best compromise of size, accuracy, capacity, and ongoing costs for the vast majority of users. Bigger is not always better even if you have the room, but in a small shop, much more so.
Looking forward to seeing what all you come up with!
Bosch should sponsor you. They work with a few channels and may solve some of your power issues.
If you want it to make you more efficient, key thing to implement is quick release - try and minimise any screw/bolt adapters; latches, magnets, cleats etc are all your friends in switching set ups quickly
I feel compelled to give an opposing opinion re the Bosch mitre saw. I replaced a fixed-head Dewalt saw about two years ago….and initially I REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted the Bosch saw, for the obvious reasons. I began looking at RUclips reviews and came across several users who were very disappointed with the accuracy of the cuts. One in particular was very comprehensive, with him showing video of his zero clearance throat after a period of use. Right up against the fence the cut was probably good enough, but at the extended end of the cut it was all over the place. He also outlined his attempt to have Bosch look at his saw, and that was pointless….they required him to pay for two-way shipping, the cost of which was prohibitive. I still wanted this saw to work for me…the visual appearance of the engineering impressed the hell out of me. I visited two different tool dealerships and examined their display models. On both occasion the left-right flex, when the saw was at full extension, was completely unacceptable. Of note….it didn’t take much force to make it flex…I completely understood what the previously mentioned reviewer was dealing with, and so much for the “appearance” of clever engineering. The good news is that it’s easy to determine if what I’m saying is still valid…just give it the flex test….👍🏼
I love thé ambition.
I am thinking along similar lines for modular workbenches using ideas from yourself, Paoson Woodworking, Hooked on Wood and Rings Workshop.
Used the Bosch, Makita and Fesstool zero clearance mitersaws. Festool is probably the best but honestly I prefer the Makita, just feels better. And about 1/2 the cost. The Bosch we had nothing but problems with. The joints become sloppy rather quickly loosing its accuracy. Had it replaced once, and that one repaired once before selling it off and getting the Makita, which was flawless. If not needing the big 10 or 12 inch blade you can also get the Makita in 7 1/2” (190mm?) blade in cordless for about the cost of the Bosch. And help with power issues that way? Just a thought.
Can’t wait to see what you come up with. I think you’ve used some really slick methods to build your previous shop bench. Honestly I’m not sure how the larger table saw will help with the space issue, I know you’re facing a challenge building around it.
If it's available in your country, AEG (Ridgid in the US) now has a miter saw with articulating arms like the Bosch and, at least in the US, is at a cheaper price point than the Bosch. Ridgid model number R4241 & R4251
Miter saw: zero wall clearance is a must for a micro shop, so you either need to store the Metabo or similar saws rotated to 45° or get a zero back clearance saw. The 45° sportage solution requires you pull the saw away from the wall to use, then 45 it &push back for storage; whether that also requires adjusting "wing" support out from the wall would depend on design. A really slick design would be to live w/the Metabo & design a setup you can transition later to Bosch which is the best short of the money suck that is Festool. That gives you a nice value add for all us money & space constrained viewers for a) the design aspects & b) the added episodes for the transition. One of the great features of Bosch is it can be upgraded for MUCH better dust collection (which I note has not been a high priority for you) and that's another episode when you get there
I would say its hugely overengineering. HOWEVER, how fun is it to overengineer and geek out on it? Go for it! I subscribed and I am looking forward to it!
Thanks for keeping it interserting and raising expectations for new ideas... should be fun to watch! Have fun with it, stay focused on "why you do what you do" more than, "what you do"... Even amongst the ever changing whims of the utube algorithms! They are becoming more antagonistic and controlling toward you all... Personally, I couldn't work for them! utube givith and utube taketh away!
Instead of the complicated bosch saw, look at the makita LS1219L instead. Love mine.
Very interested in the Bosch miter saw
If you like your Metabo saw and your only problem is that you can't push it all the way back to the wall, the "Metabo KGSV 72 XACT" or the "Metabo KGSV 72 XACT SYM" might be worth considering. I use the latter one and am absolutely happy with it. However, it has a smaller blade than the Bosch.
Pretty ambitious to have a mobile workshop. A 3 or 4 part workbench is a very good idea. Do that. If you're using 1 fase electrics you can make a retractable suspended power plug from the ceiling.
This is an interesting concept, and I am very much looking forward to how your achieve your goal. I will say that the term "dynamic" has me a little nervous. My biggest issue when I try to make a system where things are more "free flowing" is, because I am constantly moving things around, I tend to forget where I place things. This leads to a lack of efficiency because I have to try and remember what I was previously doing, and then think why it was efficient for me to place a tool in a specific spot during that project. On the other hand, it could just be my "old man brain" and my declining memory. :)
Never had one but if I could I would get a festool mitre saw, I watch Jon peters in the USA who is a professional carpenter who had the bosh but decided to change as the bosh kept misaligning
I have the DWS 774 216mm £160 and the LS1219L £5xx something. They have both gone right up in price now. Weight is the huge difference. It's like comparing Malcolm Marx with Theo Dan
Go for it, you'll have so much fun making these modules, you have great imagination and visualisation coupled with engineering skill. Will be good for your viewers when we want to make more usable and flexible spaces.
I don't know if you follow @Tested but take a look at some of the carts that Adam Savage has made. He makes use of a lot of mobile carts. His workshop might be bigger than yours, but some of his philosophy might be helpful to you.
If it were me I would hold off on buying the new Miter Saw. Why not build a crosscut sled for your table saw that has a mitering capabilities and see if that is enough. Then keep your current miter saw up out of the way for those projects that ate just too long for a crosscut sled and pull it out as needed. Throw a french cleat on the bottom so you can hang it up out of the way.
Creo que si, que conseguirás hacer un taller muy funcional.
I love the energy you bring to your channel and your content. I look forward to seeing the redesign of the shop. I'm glad you decided to keep the table saw, that was one of my favorite projects you've done. Cheers!
I think you should define how the shop will be used. What types of projects will typically be performed? Home renovations require different things than furniture making, for example. I think if you are aiming for a shop that does it all, you will end up with one that does nothing well
A dynamic workshop is a necessity for you given your space constraints. However, how will you ensure that the benches are level with one another when you move them around? Having to level them each time you change the configuration will be too much of a time suck. Is there some way you can ensure that the floor of your workshop is level?
If you want to stay agil, is it really necessary to have a miter saw?
A good sledge and a miter angle fence on the circular saw save a lot of space and fullfiled all the needs, no?
I least I'm doing it
In general your vision of a dynamic workshop is a great idea. I would love to have the opportunity to build one myself.
My only concern is that you run into a circle where you lose your real goal out of sight. You want a workshop to be able to realise your projects, but first you have to do so many projects to build your workshop that you won´t have the time to build any of your real projects in the next 1-2 years.
Maybe it would be better to upgrade your workshop step by step besides the projects you really want to realise.
Unless... the creator enjoys upgrading on a regular basis. My shop has been dismantled in the same space by my choice twice and twice without a choice. I'm looking forward to designing and building a new shop. 😊
You said you are often on bcak up for power. Wil it be a problem for the bsch miter saw you're planning to purchase ?in term of demanding watts ?
My two cents: I'd focus on productivity (video-productivity that is) rather than spending too much time on editing quality. I guess publishing more regularly would benefit the traction of the channel better and that could generate more revenue that you could use to maybe hand over editing jobs to an external party. About the shop itself: modular is probably the way to go but make sure changing the layout doesn't take too much time, or you won't use it as intended, but you'd probably figured that out already...
Considering the electrical situation in RSA, would you ever use solar panels and a battery system to allow you to work when the power is off?
That is the system I have in place but it's not strong enough for the saw.