You can also add different amounts of swing to each drum. As a rule, the fewer low frequencies, the more swing. An example would be a kick/bass drum with 12% swing, a snare with 18% swing, and hi-hats with 24% swing. Also, try shifting individual drum tracks, like shifting a snare track a few milliseconds behind the bass/kick drum.
Thank you! I think lots of people intuitively get groove and pocket, but hearing you explain swing is just delaying the start time of every 2nd midi note just clicked! 👍
When I first started writing tunes as a youngster, back in the early 90's, it was exactly THIS that I didn't get for about two years of writing tracks. It was the lack of trained ears and experience and I was so relieved when I finally got the 'trick'... :-)
I love overdoing the Swing from time to time and have like 50%😂 also, with faster genres like dnb I can be really interesting to use the half Tempo (e.g. 87 instead of 174) because then the Swing will be applied to the 8th notes instead👀
Oh, i always thought shuffle was pushing the 16th notes forward, and swing was pushing them back. just researched though, shuffle is more like a triplet only playing the 1st and 3rd note.
This is a good intro. I’ve been using swing since Cubase on the Atari ST, but you know, I’ve never really analysed it or done anything more than adjust it by ear. Which is fine. But now we’re in the social media age, it would be great to have someone explain which well known pieces use what swing/groove, on what instruments or kit pieces and how to get a certain type of feel. I’m sure somebody has investigated this and knows how to use this feature in original music. Not just electronic, but an analysis of how such and such a piece of pop music uses swing and the effect it has on the song. If I knew more than how to just muck about until it sounded right I’d do it myself. Or is this one of those things that nobody actually understands on an intellectual level and everybody does what I do? I’m curious.
@@egorgurko ok then. In a typical note pattern or phrase in jazz, how many 480 ticks (per quarter note) is typically shifted on the beat 2 and on beat 4 of a 4/4 piece at, say, a quarter note tempo of 170BPM when you want to have a medium swing? What pieces can I listen to that are close to that? And then for 80BPM, and then for bebop, gypsy jazz, swing, blues - that’ll do for now. At typical tempos. Anyone who’s played music for more than a couple of years knows this stuff instinctively. But how is it defined objectively? And yes, we all know that everything is different to a degree, what I’m talking about is examples and/or typical. We all know to move on from there. Can’t answer it? Then please, learn some manners. I’ve been playing since 1978, Including Jazz (on a Hammond) blues, on a guitar but most of my professional career in music was as a house engineer for EMI. Recording popular music (as opposed to jazz, which no matter how much we like it, is not popular) - it’s nice to be able to respond to a producer who wants a jazz feel (say) but all you have the budget for is a computer and a keyboard. How do you tweak a solo played in MIDI (the player long gone) in a straight format to make it swing like a jazz tune? Can’t answer that either? I thought so.
You can also add different amounts of swing to each drum. As a rule, the fewer low frequencies, the more swing.
An example would be a kick/bass drum with 12% swing, a snare with 18% swing, and hi-hats with 24% swing.
Also, try shifting individual drum tracks, like shifting a snare track a few milliseconds behind the bass/kick drum.
Thanks for the new knowledge!
Thank you fr this helped me understand Ableton groove quicker than any other tutoeial
I think I really underused Swing over all the time, glad you brought that up !
Thank you! I think lots of people intuitively get groove and pocket, but hearing you explain swing is just delaying the start time of every 2nd midi note just clicked! 👍
When I first started writing tunes as a youngster, back in the early 90's, it was exactly THIS that I didn't get for about two years of writing tracks. It was the lack of trained ears and experience and I was so relieved when I finally got the 'trick'... :-)
I'm proud I heard the swing and new it was there🥰
Swing gang!!
Same
Wooow! Perfectly explained again!
i knew what swing was but didnt know exactly what was happening under the hood. you visualizing swinging those hihats really opened my eyes!
5 beers in and listening on my iPhone speaker, I’m pretty proud of myself for immediately noticing the difference!
Being a swinger isn't so bad after all 😁
🍍
Ayoo
ayo 😂
Brilliant, I loke your videos very much, very concise and useful
never felt so good about getting something right 😂
Best Chanel ever!
I love overdoing the Swing from time to time and have like 50%😂 also, with faster genres like dnb I can be really interesting to use the half Tempo (e.g. 87 instead of 174) because then the Swing will be applied to the 8th notes instead👀
You could also apply 8th-note swing instead of changing tempo 👍
@@Cableguys yeah I guess that's one of those fl studio things, Swing only applies to the 16ths. But otherwise for sure!
Swing hurts my OCD but it sounds decent
Oh, i always thought shuffle was pushing the 16th notes forward, and swing was pushing them back. just researched though, shuffle is more like a triplet only playing the 1st and 3rd note.
Whoa that extract the groove feature. Is there a method of achieving that in FL Studio?
Second one is much more groovy 🙌
Does Fl have this options outside of the swing knob? Like presets similar to how ableton works?
Been a min since I used swing
thanks
Fl has it built in to the pattern builder as a knob
This is a good intro. I’ve been using swing since Cubase on the Atari ST, but you know, I’ve never really analysed it or done anything more than adjust it by ear. Which is fine. But now we’re in the social media age, it would be great to have someone explain which well known pieces use what swing/groove, on what instruments or kit pieces and how to get a certain type of feel. I’m sure somebody has investigated this and knows how to use this feature in original music. Not just electronic, but an analysis of how such and such a piece of pop music uses swing and the effect it has on the song. If I knew more than how to just muck about until it sounded right I’d do it myself.
Or is this one of those things that nobody actually understands on an intellectual level and everybody does what I do? I’m curious.
Swing comes from jazz, afaik, and is used all the time in it. It is way more about feeling of the rythm than any science. Try listening to jazz
Also yeah, we're in easy to access information era, so why not just Google about it...🙄
@@egorgurko True, but Google ain't what it used to be. Just say you don't know either, lol.
@crnkmnky what.
1. Google is what it used to be
2. I do know what I'm talking about, I've played jazz for years.
@@egorgurko ok then. In a typical note pattern or phrase in jazz, how many 480 ticks (per quarter note) is typically shifted on the beat 2 and on beat 4 of a 4/4 piece at, say, a quarter note tempo of 170BPM when you want to have a medium swing? What pieces can I listen to that are close to that? And then for 80BPM, and then for bebop, gypsy jazz, swing, blues - that’ll do for now. At typical tempos.
Anyone who’s played music for more than a couple of years knows this stuff instinctively. But how is it defined objectively? And yes, we all know that everything is different to a degree, what I’m talking about is examples and/or typical. We all know to move on from there.
Can’t answer it? Then please, learn some manners. I’ve been playing since 1978, Including Jazz (on a Hammond) blues, on a guitar but most of my professional career in music was as a house engineer for EMI. Recording popular music (as opposed to jazz, which no matter how much we like it, is not popular) - it’s nice to be able to respond to a producer who wants a jazz feel (say) but all you have the budget for is a computer and a keyboard. How do you tweak a solo played in MIDI (the player long gone) in a straight format to make it swing like a jazz tune? Can’t answer that either? I thought so.
Need to know how to do it in studio one
can i ask for the loop/sample file? thankuu
Music eng is so interesting!!!
what programs do you use?
The Sultans have known this for years.
How do I do this on logic ?
Whenever people complain I’m way off beat I’ll just say I’m swinging
Which DAW are you using? I like it's interface
Ableton
i spotted it
Y’all do non cable guys vids too?
I thought homeboy was about to tell me how swing shaper is a new module for shaperbox.
😸
i just snap to triplets and add swing that way...
Lol my right hand twitched to bring the second one back into time...
Lol i instantly knew it was Swing
Second one has swing
Y does ableton have no swing knob in 2023
Is it strange that I can't hear the difference?
You're not the only one in the comments… 🤔
🖤
Swing
Is that ableton?
yeah
who tf doesn't know what swing is at this point in time. It's free real estate!
The second beat would be more common in House music with the swinged eighths. The first is more loungy
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that shuffle!
The chart in the beginning is the exact same. I can't hear a difference. I'm inclined to believe it's the exact same. Just one's green and one's blue.
Theres pretty obvious swing
My brain cant process the difference it seems. It sounds identical to me
I’m dumb af I thought he just used a compressor make it sound bouncy lmao
Is there an automatic way to do it in piano roll lol abeton
lol :)
If you can't hear the difference, please just stop considering make music of any sort, thanks
They both sound the same
Beat A was better
Depends on the song…
youre a balenciaga harry
One crucial difference is that… none of these are beats.
I think Groove A was a bit better tbh
I cant hear shit :(
Alternatively, hire a drummer. They have fewer menu screens.
I DONT WANT TO SEE UR FACE AGAIN BRUH
Why, you don't like the tips?