Switch SNES Controller Teardown and Review (+SNES App Review)
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- A look at how both Nintendo's new SNES controller and online emulation service have turned out. Put your safety gloves on now.
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Since a lot of people are asking about it, I performed the last two tracks and the Super Metroid one is available in this pack: / texture-tutorial-28646255
Update: BetterJoyForCemu v6 supports the controller and converts it to Xinput, so it can now be used with pretty much everything (Steam's generic configuration didn't work)
do you think you'll ever do a video on how emulators are suddenly catching up to the newest consoles and making the most progress in years
Nerrel updating his videos w/ more longevity than Samsung updating their phones.
Shut up nerd.
Why dont you try "World Of Joystick". It makes any gamepad recognizable as a xbox controlller, so you only need to configure it one time. :)
hey Nerrel wondering why BSNES? Isn't Higan, the emulator made by the same guy as BSNES more accurate? Wondering what makes you like BSNES more than other options.
I feel like you made this episode just as a convoluted way to tell everyone you “deliberately” rated link’s awakening like that
You gotta appreciate the commitment there
The quality to upload ratio on this channel is absolutely insane, a godsend for those who can never find simple to-the-point content, whilst also being entertaining and informing. simply, thank you
Dude is on his way to 100k for a reason. That's impressive for the small amount of content he has put out so far. I'm willing to bet he might even get close to 1 million subs in the next 2 years. And thats just a reserved guess mind you.
@@dalgusmaximus4557 Not to be pessimistic, but I would be surprised if Nerrel surpassed 1 million subs. This content isn't niche, but it's more focused on specific interests compared to gaming channels that appeal to topical releases. Nerrel seems to make whatever he wants with a quality work standard. This channel will have a consistent following, but it probably won't have a million sub appeal the channels that try to maintain modern relevancy do.
'Tis okay though. I like these kinds of channels more.
@@Pan_Z
There I plenty of other youtube videos like his that get plenty of views and have plenty of subs so I get why you would say that but nerrels videos in particular are articulated in such a unique way that I genuinely feel like he is one of the best gaming related youtubers right now. That along with Him being so naturally funny in all his videos really makes him a youtube gem in my eyes. Very rarely do I ever watch 30 minute youtube videos and think that the videos weren't long enough. I'm always left wanting more and I mean that in the best way possible.
@@dalgusmaximus4557 Do you have any suggestions for channels like Nerrel?
@@Pan_Z
For what exactly? I already think he is great and his sub increases speak for itself. When I found his channel it only had afew thousand subscribers but now he is near 100k.
The only thing I could possibly want him to do is make an offical nerrel twitter account so we can hear more from him.
"Here at Nerrel"
I thought you were one guy
He is many guys
Nyess
Nope, he clearly said "we".
We are many you are but one
He is a collective consiousness.
I'm glad they eventually added button mapping to the Switch OS itself.
Yeah but you cant remap wired controllers which is a really poor decision.
actually you can only use it on 1st party controllers, not even on original gamecube controllers
Can't remap on the NES or SNES controllers.
It's good that they did, but it's a roundabout way to fix the issue. It would have been way better to have button remapping in the emulators themselves. With certain profiles being tied to each game. So that you don't have to remap every time you change games. This goes for every game in general
"...which isn't even really a service as much as it is a ransom fee for online play."
PREACH BROTHER
Bruh
WOOOOOO XBOX GAMERPIC
I like your dry humour. Its dryer then a desert. Or my mother's turkey.
Exactly why I subbed!
Have you offered to help cook with her?
Still not as dry as British Humor
Than*
Women be shopping
"A ransom fee that lets you play online"
finally. It's in words now.
What the fuck is that pfp
@@ibeatmywifeandkids9084 your own name and profile pic make this comment irrelevant
@@MaxxyBee SUSSY BALLZ 😳😳😳
@@trustme2674 some mf don’t want to pay for something that was free
@@trustme2674 imagine justifying paying any amount of money to access the servers of games you pay full price for
nerrel: “the modern d-pad is anchored just like the original - and it is really stuck on there. _More_ _on_ _that_ _later_ ”
me: 😳
harthur more on that that later
FatKoopii shit that was the one thing i was meant to include fucks sake
I love it when he says that lmao
6:22 _There goes my Alcohol budget_ ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )
*...for the day* ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
10:25 Great Ending haha. Poor Yoshi, all those years of getting punched in the back of the head by Mario has finally taken its toll.
I want to point out that the controller DOES communicate over USB, it's just that the included cable is only for charging and doesn't have the additional wire or two inside the cable to allow for wired communication. Get any USB A to USB C from your local Babbage's K B Toys or Toys R Us and it's PC plug and play compatible just like the Switch Pro Controller.
The Nerrel have become my favorite RUclipsrs. I love listening to the the content on my first watch, then enjoy having their voice running in the background. It's comfy.
Holy shit I knew there was a reason it took me 10 minutes to do a wall jump in super Metroid besides me being bad at it.
Had no idea the pro controller dpad sucked that much. Thanks for making me regret spending $70
That is the only bad thing about the d pad. Plus you can fix it yourself
@@jage6344 "Plus you can fix it yourself"? Maybe you didn't read the part about paying $70 for it. It's not like he's buying old hardware or software or modding his dpad for speedrunning.
@@tomstonemale yeah I didn't buy the 70 dollar controller for any of those reasons either.
I figured out something was wrong with it the second I tried it on Hollow Knight. Its finicky diagonals made pogo slashing a nightmare.
The netcode for the online play of SNES Online is actually INSANELY good. My connection at my apartment is terrible, but when I play with friends on this, it feels like local.
JoySparx Super Mario Maker 2 on the other hand...
Blank Blank Why they thought delay based netcode was a good idea for a platformer is beyond me
@@JoySparx They thought it was a good idea because they suck at online and they always have.
Oh it's great. I just wish Nintendo made more games available. Big missed opportunity. Too bad the regular Switch Online games suck.
@@JoySparx because Nintendo actively and virulently despises you, and all other consumers. I have no idea how anyone can bring themselves to willingly give them money.
Two videos in less than 5 days? I feel like we've been blessed by the gods this week.
The d-pad feeling "worryingly stiff" is just because it's brand spanking new!
I changed the rubbers inside my original SNES controller and it too felt too stiff at first, especially in comparison to the worn out mush that the original rubbers had turned into, but after a couple of years of playing intermittently it now feels right.
I have a snes classic controller that I have barely used and it has a much softer dpad than the dpad on my wireless controller. The wireless dpad is unpleasant to use out of the box unlike the ones with the snes classic.
@@brockgan8941 I know what you mean. I just hadn't used an original controller in good condition so I didn't remember that it was soft. But the 8bitdo Pro 2 controller I bought recently has a really nice soft d-pad! That's the controller I use now to play SNES.
This was everything I've come to expect from a Nerrel video with the added bonus of a teardown channel parody. 10/10 surgical gloves.
Glad to have helped! I certainly hope to help in future videos wherever I can. Also, I learned something new about the SNES controller which is an added bonus. :)
A fellow orange I see
@@theorangecandle Indeed, hello other fellow orange. May I help you?
man i love this guy, great content no matter what !
I'm officially calling them "Howduquens" now
So you went from being 33 years old to 47 years old in a year
One of the first things I noticed when I got my 1993 SNES was that it didn't have printed L & R buttons like my friends' 1992 SNES. The 1997 controller revised for the SNS-101 consoles also lacks the printing. I was keenly aware throughout the life of the SNES and it seems to me that the vast majority of SNES controllers have no printing on the L & R buttons.
That said, there are at least two revisions with the printing. You can often find the earliest ones with their cords pulled out exposing the wires inside. That's because the posts that the cable winds through often break, allowing the cable to back out of the controller. Later controllers added a ridge that connects the posts together, strengthening them so that they do not break as easily.
If they used the same silicone membrane for the d-pad as they did on the SNES Mini classic, be prepared to have it broken after a while of play! (mine actually broke, on "both" controllers)
The material is just too soft, so after a while, you might actually "pop out" the contact areas by accident
That hasn't happened to me - on either of my controllers - but the membranes and buttons are identical, even down to the slightly recessed L and R on the respective buttons over the printed text of the original. Perhaps you just got unlucky and had a couple of factory defects, or you just press the d-pad more firmly than is necessary.
@@alfo2804 Or mine was simply a "Monday production" D:
@@wolyafa2566 At least you can still either use a Wii Classic Controller or buy replacement membranes. I'd have definitely complained to Nintendo if that happened to me. It might be too late for that now, however.
My only complaint about you covering your tra- I mean testing the audience Nerrel, is the lack of tingle butt dances. Thats like the prime content of this channel. Besides everything else which is 10 times funnier. But you don't have to take my word for it. 9/10 gyroscopic control users use your video to prove my point. Thats 9/10ths of a person, not 9 out of 10 gyroscopic control users.
3:40 in defense of the joystick, Axiom Verge only works with an Xbox Controller
Honestly I'd recommend spending the extra $2 to pick an 8bitdo SN30 pro controller instead of this one. It's not Nintendo but its the highest quality 3rd party retro controller you can find and it makes for a more versatile controller compared to this one. For just a few dollars more you get all buttons offered on the Switch pro controller, along with analog sticks, rumble, and gryo motion controls. The controller may not have as good built quality but it still feels great in the hands for me. Not to mention Windows recognizes it instantly and it makes for a hella great Steam/emulator controller. There's been reports of faulty d-pads with 8bitdo controllers but I personally have yet to run into any issues and the d-pad still feels great. I was able to beat all of Celeste with this controller which must mean something. With the Switch SNES controller being rare and hard to obtain at around $40 and the SN30 pro being readily available at $45 with its many more additional features then the value discrepancy between the two is obvious.
Yeah, 8bitdo controllers in general are pretty great. I've got an SF30 pro and an M30 and they're both super fun. Also I think the build quality is actually really good. And they have a turbo function, which nowadays isn't incredibly useful, but still cool.
My first time catching a Nerrel video this early
When you need to put scotch tape on the pcb of a $70 controller to get the d-pad to work
New update for the switch came out and it allows you to remap buttons! (Update 10.0.0)
That's 6/40 not 9/10 smh
God why is math so hard :((
6/10
Hes trying to cover up his mistakes and creare a running gag. It's like Shigeru Miyamoto never said, "If you sh*t bricks, make a wall with them."
You are in my top 3 favorite youtubers of all time this vid proved to me that you could upload anything and I'd watch ty for putting so much hard work into your vids I am excited to see more from you!
Small tip, lock your white balance so the color temperature doesn’t keep changing
Yeah, I'm not really experienced with recording actual video yet
if it's a regular DInput controller, can't you set it up in Steam as a generic controller?
Maybe, I haven't tried that yet. Thanks
I'm grateful for the SNES pad for giving me the playstation controller layout but man... That d-pad DESTROYED my thumb. Is the switch snes dpad as much of a cheese-grinder for your thumb as the old one?
The Pro controller's D-pad has been improved since launch.
I wouldn't recommend people to rebuy it just for the D-pad, but for new buyers, make sure you're getting the second version or later.
Sidenote: It may have stopped registering down because you never stopped pressing it. Look at the gameplay and Samus is aiming down almost all the time.
How can you tell?
I'm questioning if this is the case as well. I held off buying one till this year because of that issue, but I haven't noticed any issues with my D-Pad when playing Puyo Puyo vs Tetris or Disgaea 5 where I used the D-Pad almost exclusively.
@@SuperOtakuKyo Visually the controllers are identical.
But on the back of the box the serial number ends on A, B, C or D. A being the oldest and D being the newest.
God, this is such a good review. Snappier than other reviews, quicker, yet containing way more information. Nerrel you're nutty good at this.
On the topic of the terrible d-pad on the switch pro controller, I just tried the scotch tape mod plus another one (that also uses tape.) The d-pad now works great! I recommend trying it.
Here's the link to it. ruclips.net/video/Kaw_CMd8eM4/видео.html
Nes app, Snes app, Tetris 99, Mario 35, I think justifies the $20 a year price tag at the moment.
Hey, now we got button mapping for the whole system, ain't that neat
The 8bitdo SF30 Pro controllers are better in almost every way since they've got analog sticks and double shoulders while mimicking the feel of the buttons already present on the SNES. The added options don't look too offensive and are arranged in a way that doesn't interfere with playing classic games.
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But hey, if it's an official Nintendo collectible...
how did you comment almost 4 hours ago when the video came out like 10 minutes ago
@@maciek4285 it was unlisted for awhile
@@niiinjaaaaa that's dissapointing, thought we had a time traveler with us
Yeah i was about to post asking if he’s tried this one
"Depending on how much I want to complain today"
knowing you, you wanna complain a lot
It's fascinating how someone with such a deliberately monotonous narration actually can make me somewhat interested in something I never gave a shit about. Same thing happened with your tutorial on textures. Guess I'm saying you're doing a good job!
I've been debating getting one of these for a while after never really using my NES and SNES Classic, but I recently picked it up alongside some My Nintendo swag since I had to pay for shipping already and holy hell, I'm in love.
My other controllers (Switch Pro, Xbox 360 and Series) all have terrible D-Pads for 2D games to the point where I would just use sticks instead, which really sucks.
Although it doesn't have rumble which is kind of a shame, I managed to best a boss I had been struggling with for a while in Cuphead after 3 tries with the new controller. It just does what I want it to and it's really dope.
Steam also added support for the classic controllers recently so now it works with most games. I had this weird issue with BetterJoy were my D-Pad inputs would be doubled since it was mapped to the stick, but not using it resolved it.
I started playing Undertale, played a bit of Scott Pilgrim, even set up retroarch and started to fall in love with Earthbound and Mother 3. The extra ZL and ZR buttons are actually really useful in Retroarch as I mapped them to fast forward and rewind as well as menu when both are pressed.
The concave and convex buttons are also super cool and useful, a shame more controllers don't use them.
Overall it's just a great little controller for 2D games, it looks great feels great and really adds a lot to playing retro games.
(Dumb example but playing Earthbound on my 3DS, getting attacked by the spore mushroom would be really annoying since the controls would just go all wonky, but using the SNES controller, I quickly realized I can just flip it to match the direction of the mushroom effect, making the grueling and annoying affair of getting rid of it more like a fun minigame where I get a little bit of cash at the end for my troubles)
You what's funny Nintendo having a rewind feature when they generally have the mentality nowAdays of play it our way or not at all
Wtf ANOTHER?? You fucking legend.
No mention of 8bitdo's line of controllers? Their SNES controller is perfect in my hands - one of the best controllers I've used - and works for virtually any game on any system without a hitch.
Also, your Red Soil rendition is delightful and makes me wish the song was twice as long.
The real question is why it doesn’t use motion controls.
I love how you said "Here at Nerrel" implying it's actually a group or company comprised of many people, all of which I assume are clones of you.
0:52 You have no idea how impossible this made it to comfortably play Hollow Knight on the switch. The arrow buttons AND the pro D Pad made slashing down while jumping over something (not to mention pogo slashing) an absolute nightmare at times. I wound up buying custom joycons with a D pad on it. Those work great, but it shouldn't have cost me that much money to play that game comfortably on the switch.
My god you've very quickly become one of my favourite RUclipsrs
make a similar video but with the nes
3:46 Surprise! The switch retro controllers now have steam controller support.
Just a tip for those who want to buy a new pro controller: newer models have an improved d pad. I’m not sure which exactly, but the xenoblade and smash edition controllers definitely have better ones.
8bitdo's SN30 Pro is a much better option.
3:22 "Is that a thing?"
Sure, it could be some nonstandard nonsense which is all too common in the world of USB drivers, but it would be weird in this circumstance.
I recently got vape juice in my SNES classic controllers (don't ask how).
I had never opened a SNES controller, I opened them and it was awesome.
The rubber contact pads are designed to keep grease and grime out and keeps your controllers innards safe from mountain dew and Doritos.
Crazy that Nintendo perfected the D-pad in 1990 and have only gone backwards since.
I can't be the only one who actually rathers the switch pro controller compared to the recent ps and xbox d-pad's.
I wish they actually had this in stock
Not being able to use the d-pad in Link's awakening is kinda stupid considering you move in 8 directions
God willing we may see N64 this September based on the pattern.
Wasn't expecting to be laughing this hard during controller review
Not registering when wired to PC could be a driver issue.
A handful controllers that I own, like the Pokkén controller, wouldn't register the first few days after launch.
I can't know since I don't own the SNES pad, however.
Find a woman who says your name like Nerrel says "more on that later..."
Unfortunately it seems some of the newer ones do have issues with false diagonals.
Dude mentions Fundy bay and coureurs des bois onhis patreon, is he from the maritime provinces?
TWO IN ONE WEEK?
There's a severe lack of appreciation for the n64 for comparison joke
Honestly as someone who didn’t buy an SNES until recently, switch online has helped me through some games I wouldn’t have been able to get through otherwise. My first play-through of DKC 1 was filled with me using the rewind feature and constantly going back to understand what I did wrong. After playing through the first 2 Country games, I completed DKC 3 without needing the rewind feature even once. While Nintendo’s online legacy collection isn’t the first time players have seen this rewind idea it’s definitely nice to see them implement it officially.
Some say that Yoshi is still to this day screaming in silence while stuck at that wall.
Great video as always
Here I am, two years later and I was finally able to order one!
Is that Julia Holter towards the end??
Sn30pro+ gang rise up!
10:12
WTF!? They raised the price even more!?
Nerrel, you really deserve more subs. You have the quality of someone with 1mil.
lol equating quality and popularity
Anyone know the audio playing at 7:00 minutes to near the end of the video? Where is that from?
I guess it's Thomas Was Alone Soundtrack. Don't know the particular song though. Inertia, maybe?
I like the CRT filter on the SNES Classic since scan lines are what those games were originally designed around.
SNES controller with handles?
Have you met my friend, SN30 Pro +?
@The Cooler Shopkeeper
That's regular sn30 pro. The pro+ with the handles have a good dpad.
You know they fixed the pro's d-pad a while ago right?
It's supposedly marginally better with more pivot but not enough to be fixed
Feels like a controller autopsy ngl
How is it your technical breakdowns are so interesting to even non tech people like me? Someone give this guy a Netflix special!
I could honestly watch you review anything and I have no idea why
Does "I performed the last two tracks" mean he wrote them as well? I swear I know that last song. Aphex twin or something like that. Any help would be appreciated.
Does the SNES controller support the button remap update, if so Link Awakening should work now.
I have an old PDP fightpad that wouldn't work on PC at all until you forced it to use drivers for a normal 360 controller in device manager. But if the SNES Online Controller indeed doesn't appear in device manager at all, even as an unknown device, then it must be purely wireless, I'd guess.
You can map buttons on the switch os now
"and there's an extremely abusable rewind feature"
biggest understatement of the year
Honestly I can't imagine playing switch without my DS4 controller via Magic NS. Gotta have a good d-pad.
5:21 can someone tell me this song?
It's an acoustic cover of the Lower Brinstar theme from Super Metroid that Nerrel's playing himself.
@@AriMaeda Oh wow you are right! Thanks for that
Don’t see any reason to get this over 8bitdo’s offerings. I have the SN30 Pro and it’s awesome, it has analog sticks and it works with Mac and PC flawlessly.
I just wish Nintendo gave a fuck when it came to emulation. They do great for backing up and archiving their work, but hate it when the public does it with emulation and Roms. Release all your old games on your online ships and make them work between all consoles with online play with button mapping and bam, perfect
That Tingle joke absolutely got me in a giggling fit. Nice job
"How dow kens"
Nerrel's subtle hilarity is just perfect. When he compared the controllers I lost my mind.
for the love of fuck, _please_ just buy the one from 8bitdo with the joysticks and extra shoulder buttons and everything. at least that one can be used for regular switch games.
I was playing SMW and was a bit flabbergasted at the emulators ability. I swear I could only have 3 entities on screen when playing the yellow yoshi star world.
If you can't switch to 16:10 on a 16:9 screen then meh. It's the best way to get a wide-screen experience. Don't @ until you've tried it.
welp, hope youre happy NOW; Nintendo added Custom Mapping to controllers a few updates ago :)
What's the song that starts at 6:50?
couldnt you just order one snes gamepad off ebay? wtf? what kind of explaination is this?
But does it have motion controls?
Otherwise, 80% of the fan boys won't buy it.