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Skt skt skt skt...
Muskwatch
"In order for a person to make profit..." 17:00
I am probably missing something but when two people get more done due to cooperating. Lets say alone we can make 10x in a day, but together we can make 30x. If we split it down the middle, I'm paying you less and you're paying me less than what we added. After all, if I/you can only make 10 alone, and with my/your addition we can now make 30, we both added 20. Unless we both get 20 from 30, we're evil exploiters.
I don't think that's how any of this works so I think I'm missing something here.
And since the original 'full amount' is 10... why is it evil for two to get 15? At any time we could buy some raw mats, create stuff, and sell on ebay or some other site for the original 'full amount' of our worth, however much per time that may be (though there are laws and regulations preventing much of that which I can't comment on due to lacking knowledge into laws.).
Furthermore, those who make 15 and don't spend it all, if we assume that it can be used or converted to food amongst other things like entertainment, then the time saved or gained from saving and spending differently than others could therefore be reinvested into means of production which might require the assistance of others, which goes full circle back to the point in co-op. When we pair the option of co-op & the option to self employ, it seems like a substantial amount of 'exploitation' gets removed from the equation.
+blaze armoru
If both alone make 10x, they are making a total of 20x. If they get together and make 30x each one is adding 5x by collaborating, if they get back 15x that's 10x plus the 5x they are making together. Nobody's being exploited there.
It's pretty sad that I had to watch a video on Marxism to understand flirting.
SAME
Same. Ollie just explained flirting to me better than anything else ever has before, and now I finally get it.
@@flourflower3499 Same
I'm right there with you.
Who knows, maybe in a couple months you'll watch a video on flirting and understand marxism. That's why I love youtube.
The fact that Abbys old name is on the screen while she lists fictional characters is too good
She wasn't kidding when she said she's waited a long time to come out publicly!
You' re cool for noticing
Could also be because it was her stage name, if I'm not mistaken
@@noahlabonteclark803
What’re you on about?
Yeah, it would be round about then that she'd start 'living in her gender' according to gender recognition certificate criteria (which she claims she has, or at least she claims she's done all the legal stuff).
"Elon Musk is the 53rd richest person on Earth".
Yeah, about that...
Hey, I'm from the future to say he just out-capitalismed Bezos. So yeah....about that....
@@friendly1016 he went back down.... Yeah
came here to say the same thing
It took two fucking years
Yeah...
in just under two years, elon musk went from being the 53rd richest person in the world to the 8th
He’s like number 5 now
Fucking Christ
@@zoeredadams and I put my money on him and won, I too become I little rich, and so there it goes round and round, now I'm part of the system
@@monad_tcp Not entirely sure how this is relevant, but nice flex
Yeah with goverment subsidies. Literal tax payer money
Friedrich Engels on the topic of charity: "The bourgeoisi is chairtable out of selfinterest; it gives nothing outright, but makes a bargain with the poor, saying: 'If I spend this much upon benevolent institutions, I thereby purchase the right not to be troubled any further, and you are bound thereby to stay in your dusky holes and not to irritate my tender nerves by exposing your misery.' "
Bill Gates (& others?) imo takes it a step further, in that his "charity" has the stink of investment/empire-building. Tentatively, I see Musk somewhat differently than this - maybe because I'm a fan of his work and his (imo honest, in spite of his tendency to go for publicity) rhetoric. .
"Shit floats." : )
Yeah, n it goes further in a saying: "When I feed the poor, they call me saint. But when I ask why they are poor, they call me communist".
@@indranujray214 true. But is it bad to be called communist?
@@kallepunkken Depends upon the perspective. Bad for the oppressors, good for the oppressed.
Throwing money at a tree and yelling investment was a great visual metaphor
It was art
It’s also a reference to the old LARP viral video of a guy yelling “lightning bolt!” while throwing something.
Ever try throwing money at a person?
Ever try throwing workers at a tree?
Totally worth it filming outdoors
She is SUCH a good actor. That American accent is on point, and that was the best fake/satirical TED talk I've ever seen. Like oh my goodness. It's so good I almost want to laugh, but it's so good I can't laugh.
and she mispronounces judea in the same way an American would, it's ridiculous
It seems more like a Stevenote than a TED talk to me but idk
Are you non-American 😭Because the accent is some uncanny valley shit. Her content never fails to be good brainfood though.
"In order to give wealth you must first take it"
"Every penny of a billionaire's fortune is a penny of unpaid work someone else did"
"Praising wealth holders for their generosity or people who got where they are because of their workers as visionaries who did it alone"
Some good quotes from video
Well not really, most billionaires pay their workers and Elon pays them very well
@@oscardighton8580 True, but some might argue that all the money to be distributed between all people evenly or even just directly equal to their contribution. What gives Elon the right to have more money than the people he relies on? Simply the world we live in and the way hes taken advantage of it. Not necessarily evil, but capitalism relies on the simple basis that money is finite and in order to advance you cannot be more generous than you are greedy.
Jhakard Balloch well Elon started the company and built himself largely by himself
@@oscardighton8580 I'm not discrediting Elon at all. Elon did work hard to be successful, but there are many others that also work hard but do not end up as wealthy. ya feel me. the world has always been capitalistic because people at the top like lots of money, but I'm just pointing out that that isn't the only way
It's almost as if he's describing how the economy works...
I love the use of Pontius Pilate in this. He fits so well, with both the washing of the hands, and the fact that he is a real man, who has been fictionalized as a literal saint.
Rarely has Pilate been seen as a saint in my church, or any church. The guy who gave Jesus Christ the death sentence might not be viewed so well by the people who worship Jesus
Yeah hes viewed as a weak coward who allowed mob rule to overcome justice, using the symbolic washing of his hands to alleviate any personal responsibility for the killing.
@@samt3412 The weird thing is he was doing God's work when he did that.
@@Deschutron yeah feels like Sam should be thanking Pontius for fulfilling the prophecy 🤷♀️
the apostles creed says jesus "suffered under pontius pilate" so saints not exactly it
C A V E D A D D Y M A X I M U M
Lindsay Ellis ayyyy P A P I
Is Musk the Chad to your Stacey?
One of my favorite youtubers commenting on another of my favorites in a video where he comments on a third. And all of it in a context of anti-corporatist hypocrisy while on youtube owned by Google... There's a limit to how much you CAN do within the system. Do what you can, recognize problem. Work to fix it.
Yooooooo
Why "Cave Daddy"?
*Liberal Communist is a contradiction*
Your average conservative: "wait that ain't right, them's the same!"
Don't forget they're Nazis, too
yea i was gonna say what the guy above said
This is 2020, they are also anarchist totalitarian fascists too
@@JSpradley123 and terrorists, don't forget.
Liberal commie fascist antichristian FEMA-loving working-man hating terrorists. dontchyaknow.
"Elon Musk is intelligent because he's a billionaire." These are probably the same people who think Donald Trump is intelligent.
My favorite are the ones who think he's a *GENIUS* .
Its weird watching this is 2020 when he mentions Elon Musks net worth. He has earned over 90 billion dollars in two years. Thats scary.
Hating on soneone just cause he's rich is just better.
@@Blartyboy generous use of the word "earned"
@DougtheDonkeyTV oops
"Steal a lot and return a little, it's philantropy"
- Paul Lafargue
i cant tel you how much i hate philanthropy, i was at work and some rich kid was justifying capitalism in the 3rd world with that shit i wanted to chock his neck
What exactly do the capitalists make?
Strange how folks with adolf hitler in their username defend capitalism.
Rosalind Chapman How’s that strange?
It's called state welfare program
Your section on flirting kinda explains right-wing dogwhistling, too. Neither person's gonna say outright that they're racist, sexist, transphobic or whatever, but it's about leaving little suggestive hints so they can confirm the other party is on their wavelength.
Flirting *is* dogwhistling.
It's about staying subtle enough to not get found out by the general public but direct enough that the insiders will know you when they hear you. To those who know the signals, they see them everywhere.
Wow this blew my mind ,the most beatiful nice thing to do with a stranger
And the most disgusting thing people can do to exclude each other are functionaly the same
@Toxic Neon Gas none of us are anti male, anti straight or anti white. Anti capitalist, yes
@Toxic Neon Gas Conservatives oppose contraception, abortion and closing the gender wage gap. They opposed gay marriage and now oppose laws preventing discrimination against LGBT people in the workplace and in restaurants. They oppose laws like affirmativ action and supported Jim Crow and redlinining back in the 60's. They support killer cops and are against BLM. Also you probably don't know what socialism is.
"Arguably we live in another backlash right now"
Me: What do you mean arguably? haven't you seen- oh right this video is two years old.
Elon Musk has spent more on gender affirming surgeries than most trans people will probably ever be able to.
This is both a very funny fact to point out to his fans and deeply sad at the inequity of the world
i love your comment but you should also remember that hair transplants aren't all that manly considering men are known for balding XD
@@coacalom I could grow a full head of hair if I wanted. I'm bald by choice. If I could have all my hair removed permanently, I'd do it... maybe Elon can foot that bill for me. lols
“Whether you’re a Marxist or not cool”
correct, comrade jenna.
Correcto, comandante Edgy Socialist
Korrekt, Kommandant Ramón
Korrekt, comrade SGSOnlineTV
Richtig, Genosse @@Kaarli
Mmmm stop flirting at me through the camera you beautiful man
@annie c nailed it!
@annie c lighten up!!
@annie c He's clearly stealing the value of our viewership to generate his own profit!
PROFIT IS THEFT! DOWN WITH THE PHILOSOPHICAL PATRIARCHY!
But seriously. Profit is literal theft. Fuck Elon.
god my heart skipped a beat
@annie c He actually has a video about this lol
I always say a famous Tolkien quote, and believe in it:
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
~J.R.R. Tolkien
this is literally why weed and LSD are illegal
Pilate killed jesus, but he only did it ironically, bro...
If your job was to uphold the law, and you sentence a person to death row, does that make you a murderer?
@@caleb1031 I would probably say so, of course the blame wouldn't be solely on you (the system that you work within where you are put in charge of deciding whether ppl live or die would also be at fault) but yes I think you would be a murderer for killing someone, even if they deserved it.
@@tombrett590 I think the key part is in whether or not the person wants to participate in the system where they uphold the law via killing. If a government were to designate someone as an executioner in spite of their desire not to, and that person kills someone as a part of that system, I would say that they have done manslaughter and not murder. That murder would be upon the person who made the choice between life and death. But if a person were to volunteer to be someone who either executes people or maybe they volunteer to be a person who judges whether someone gets the death sentence, that person is a murderer because they chose to be in a position where someone’s life was in their hands. This in part is why I agree with the statement, “ACAB” because cops chose to uphold a corrupt and unjust system. No person is born a cop or an executioner, there is a point where they accept that they are okay with murder.
He was a puppet of Jahve, otherwise Jesus wouldn't have died. It was already planned 33 years before that.
@@caleb1031 He was a "divine" absolute ruler; he literally made the laws. He killed Jesus because he was a threat to his power. How can you be so disingenuous? From defending capitalism to defending Pontius Pilate...jeez, where are your morals.
Everyone knows that you don't make a chair by throwing money at a tree; you start a company and import chairs from wherever chairs grow.
Getting flirted with by Olly and getting crucified by Olly within 5 minutes is a very weird vibe and I don't know if I should feel abused.
kinky
For the watch!
I’m into it
that's my fetish
ikr. Washing my hands before I flirt... who woulda thunk? xD
my therapist: american accent philosophytube isn't real and he can't hurt you
american accent philosophytube:
woah is it weird that i didn't even realize he was doing a different accent because my mind just registered it as "capitalist dude" like i'm literally american and my accent sounds just like that and im realizing i associate it with capitalism
Unpopular opinion: British actors are just as bad at American accents as American actors are at speaking in British accents. Big fan of Olly's, but not the accent. Like nails on a chalkboard... *shudders*
my therapist: pontius pilate olly is not real and he can't kiss you
pontius pilate olly:
Every single time she uses an accent I don't notice and when she switches back I think 'holy shit, she's very British'
@@DianaAmericaRivero late to the party but, idk about in the US but in the UK actors learn Standard American, an accent that just sounds generically American to non Americans who don't know the regional differences
I grew up during that transition from Communalism to "Cyberspace is going to set you FREE!" In fact, I was a big part of it and truly believed computers were going to "change the world for the better". I started out as part of a small software company in the early 80's that had big dreams of "changing the world" but that ended up mostly wrote gaming software or the tools to create gaming software because that's where the money was. So I left. I then went to work for a retail outlet that I was impressed sold mostly Apple products and educational software to schools and universities, with lofty goals of "empowering the next generation with knowledge and creativity" but they were ultimately so concerned about their bottom line that they quite often took advantage of school budgets to sell overpriced crap to eke out a profit. So I left. I then went to work for a "non-profit" hospital to run the Information Technology department, thinking I was part of the machine "helping to save lives", but then had to sit through board meetings where we did cost-shifting of prices that disproportionately placed a financial burden on the poorest people in our community (the uninsured or under-insured), and whose executive management voted for bonuses for themselves while cutting employee benefits. So I left. I then went to work for a public health department as support staff for their computer systems, helping to ensure they had the tools necessary to carry out public health tasks, but witnessed their management systematically conspire to eliminate an employee's job because she came out as transgender (instead of recognizing the public health challenges and discrimination she faced and support her). So I left. Then I went to work as computer support for a mental health organization and watched them place grant money ahead of patient treatment and who fired the manager I worked for because he didn't play the right kind of politics in the organization. So I left. For a short while I was into blockchains and crypto with the hopes that it would revolutionize our economy and help to close the gap on income inequality. Until I saw people using it for ponzi schemes to mass immense wealth for themselves. So I left. I no longer have anything to do with computers - they are just one more tool enabling and in many cases even accelerating the greed of Western culture.
Pontius Pilate was the perfect symbol for this piece. I feel like I washed my hands many times until I finally learned "damn, fool, just don't get them bloody anymore, mmkay?"
Strange question: What country are you from?
I was thinking of going back to school to take up something tech-related, in the hopes of "changing the world for the better"...I don't know what to do with my life after reading this comment 😭😭😭
This was so well written. Thank you for sharing your perspective
I disagree with the correlation "computers = tool for evil" as it can be assumed from your comment. As with any other technology, computers can be used for many reasons and purposes. And it's people who fill it with reason.
Still, technology can shape behavior. E.g., social media a specifically designed to make us spend as much time online as possible. Recent Abigail's video on Transhumanism covers it very well. However, it says more about the intentions of those who designed this software, and not the technology itself.
@@dianamiftakhova5047 My point was actually how even a "good tool" fails to improve human behavior. Technology is never intrinsically going to "change the world for the better". Rather, people being better themselves will. Sorry you missed it.
I love that you picked up a bit of that artsy style that we all know and love from Contrapoints and HBomberguy. Man Leftist RUclips istn't just politics, it's politics and art!
Politics, art AND style!
@@lelouchthebaneofbritannia6890 it's so funny how pathetic that format looks compared to something like this channel.
-research
-actual scripts
-nuance
-not constantly insulting people
-creativity
-contributing to the conversion instead of rehashing meme-like talking points
-more fun
-doesn't make me physically ill to watch
The problem is that anti-SJWs already have the entertainment focus, hence the large amount of young and otherwise new people "joining the cause," so to speak. This is still lacking for the SJW side in an important way. Kids don't care about research and scientific backing, they are drawn in by the emotion and personality and when they set THOSE personalities as authorities in their eyes, THEN they listen to the actual points. SJWs who want to win people over could be grasping the selfish and egoistic reality of how people operate a bit better. A common belief seems to be that people deep down are altriustic, but I would argue that they are ultimately self-interested, and only practice altruism when it benefits them emotionally or in some other way.
and sex appeal! Olly and Natalie make me feel.....things.
a e s t h e t I c
Contra Points has been a good influence
She's the best bad influence that is.
@@pixocrayon7766 the only correct take
I also see a hbomberguy influence
12:45
down to the piano ballad at the end!
Interesting coming back here after him acquiring Twitter and showing the world who he really is
She*
Prosecute*
@@eclairz9275 Didn't realise Elon Musk was trans.
@@eclairz9275 ABi owns twitter???!?!??
@@flicnerdy4385 Lmaooo, my bad, I was slightly stoned at the time of writing this comment and was on the defensive.
Abi should own Twitter tho let's be real
Whenever Musk experiences the slightest criticism from a Twitter account with 79 followers, he publicly melts down and commits another blatant SEC violations. He may be the first billionaire to kill himself because he was cyberbullied.
It's called bad conscience.
Some people are more neurotic than others. Some people put their whole being into personal projects.
Hey, remember when he slandered a rescue diver and used a tragedy to promote his brand? Long live Elon the Vindictive.
The guy literally said he doesn't respect the SEC , the same SEC that is soo slack on the big hedge funds and their numerous violations
*clears throat...tugs on collar*
You can jump ship, Hank! Why would you be OK with a corporate autocracy in the first place!? Instead of a boss-employee relationship, you could have comrades! Isn't that what your comunity building has always been about?
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Just wondering, did someone tell you about this or do you usually watch PhilosophyTube?
(Also, are you a secret leftist?)
@@chescokun +
Aww, my favorite liberal communist :*
i see olly went to the hbomberguy school of metaphorical cutaways set in woods
something something cinematic universe
@@LimeyLassen Lefttube Cinematic Universe. Contra, Philosophy Tube, Badmouse et al. Are the Avengers, Lindsay Ellis, Hbomberguy and others more focused on media are the Guardians of the Galaxy
@@TheNugettinage don't forget Shaun
Oh good. I like. Where do I get the tickets??????
@@oof-rr5nf on youtube, of course. pre screenings on patreon.
This is the first philosophy tube video that I ever saw, and it led me to binge philosophy tube content for hours a day. During the pandemic this channel has been a welcome source of happiness in my life.
You sort of bring up a question here that I have been asking myself for years now: Can a person living in a society built on injustice be judged for profitting from this injustice, if the society does not allow an alternative?
I live in a capitalist country. I own a laptop. I have to own a laptop, because without it, I would have no chance at my education (I am studying social work, not to be confused with social studies) In my buying this laptop, I supported a system of injustice. The people who made this laptop are exploited and mistreated horrendously. But I use it for studying a subject that will allow me to work in a profession that has litterally been defined as helping those, who have been left behind by capitalism. (If I remember correctly, is was Heiko Kleeve, who said that in his work on system-theory. I might be wrong though. Also I think he didn´t invent system theory.)
Without this laptop, I could not study this subject. I might be able to share a computer with someone else, to do the bare minimum like sign up for exams and courses, but then I still use a computer.
I might decide not to study, do some other work, but is there any work today that does not rely on computers?
I might decide not to work at all, only to be called a burden on society by those who profit from injustice.
But on the other hand, were I to say that it is not my responsibility, because it is the only way to live that this society has shown me, it brings up more questions.
How well do I actually have to live?
I bought this laptop, because my old one had a broken screen. Half of the screen still worked, though. Would it be more accaptable, to keep using the broken one, so that my support for the system would be more limited?
Do I need as many changes of clothes as I have, knowing that most of them are made under inhumane conditions?
When does neccesity turn to greed, when does a need for comfort turn into lazyness?
I have not found an answer to these questions yet.
I think this circles back to the argument, that capitalism is in itself flawed. I see these questions asked a lot and often it leads to a call of consuming less or more ethically. And while I generally agree, there is also the problem of shifting the responsibility of a systemic issue onto individuals who have no choice but to live in this system (meanwhile, of course, the system is nothing without its constant reproduction by individual people).
As with your example of your (or my) laptop which was produced under unethical circumstances. You explain very well how it is nearly impossible to have a job, an education etc. without some sort of technical device. Now that means you are born in a society that expects you to use a laptop, in other words your participation relies on this device.
At the same time I suppose we both live in countries which try to abide human rights. Now here's a dilemma because you cannot have a laptop and both not exploit workers who were involved in making it. However, and here I will argue from an interventionalist point of view: shouldn't the state ensure that the things we (need to) consume are ethically sourced? Is it really the responsibility of each individual to worry about their every purchase. Especially in a consumer society, a capitalist society that fails to function without consumerism? I feel like a lot of times in these conversations the individual responsibility (and impact for that matter) is highly overrated and we tend to forget that the state could very well intervene in the production of goods and set standards for the ways in which products are being made.
I live in Switzerland and two weeks ago we had a referendum about the so called "corporate responsibility initiative". The aim of this initiative was to have swiss companies commit to making sure their production process as well as their suppliers comply with certain standards to protect people and nature. While the referendum gained the people's vote it was overturned by the parliament unfortunately. But this is an example of a demand we are allowed to pose to our governments. So there is no simple solution to our laptop dilemma, especially not one that we as individuals would be able to apply, but there is a possibility of setting (ethical) boundaries to a free market that violates human rights in the production of consumer goods. And I feel this is sometimes missing from the discussion about consumerism and buying ethically etc.
@@heimwehwonach809 To quote the amazing Katy Stoll: "I agree with you completely"
Easy. Do your best. If you're really concerned with the ethical side of your purchases, make the effort and buy something that is "less unethical", and preferably only things that you need.
In the end of the day, you have to live with yourself, and you're only responsible for yourself. Who knows, maybe grassroot movement manages to change the system - it already did many times, there have been changes to the manufacturing processes and trends that started this way.
Your concerns pinpoint,for me, the absolute evidence that we live in a capitalist dystopian world, where although some try to fix things,the capital already won and we are just running in a hamster wheel producing gains to the masters, believing that if we run in a certain way, either slowly or fast or whatever, we will change things.
We are trapped, just that and, again for me, the only way out is either a catastrophic natural event or a painfully slow process. Anyway this was typed in a phone made by slaves. So yeah.
@@Redentor92 sometimes it feels like running through a labyrinth filled with exit signs
I remember when Caesar invented Slavr, the new app to buy and sell gaullic slaves cheaply and conveniently.
One of the bits I was most proud of was when he said 'job opportunities' and a picture of a slave auction came up
*ded*
Farging oresim.
Ahhh, that new mic sound...
The fact that us in this generation praises a billionair is the most depressing thing ever......how are we not slaves yet
slaves are too expensive and are too much responsibility, it is best to put human ressources in common through a self managed lending system than to privately own them.
jean f No, slavery is cheaper. Make them live on their own while owning them and forcing them to perform work that you see fit. There’s a reason why slavery was defended by the Confederacy and is still practiced today in many parts of the world.
The sole reason why corporations don’t use slavery is because it is considered a huge global taboo and is internationally illegal. If it were any less and they wouldn’t even hesitate to use slaves.
Watching older philosophy tube videos now that abby has come out is a bit weird now.
weird good
>as we start employing musicians
is this a call out
To myself, since the musician I commissioned kicks in in the background on that exact word lol
Why does your name not have a check by it?
19:43 When you said “praising wealth hoarders for their generosity” was the moment I became an overt socialist. That symbolises so much about what’s wrong with Liberal capitalism
I’m with you, let’s fight the good fight my dude.
Welcome to the revolution friend.
@Baxis Renn wow, I'm as shocked as the first 1,000 times someone made that argument. And yet, dipshits like you keep making it. I don't think you believe you'll convince anyone, either. You just have to justify your own ideology to yourself so you spout some shit you haven't really thought through your own self. Maybe, when they say wealth hoarder, they actually mean wealth hoarder. Like. You know Bezos can't spend all his money in one lifetime, right? That's what hoarding means.
@Baxis Renn
Most progressives consider billionaires Wealth Hoarders.
@@MaxGlycine89 Where is that "hoarder money not helping anyone"? In a bank. What does a bank do? It loans the money to everyone. Voila. So much with the hoarding... Someone is not a hero for being generous with their wealth.. someone is not a villain for being rich.
"What do Steve Jobs, Tony Stark, Bill Gates, and Elon Musk have in common? They're all fictional characters."
Said by Abigail Thorn, pretending to be a man with a different name, pasted on the screen.
Amazing foreshadowing! Mind blown! 🤯
I can never tell if I’m reading too much into the script or if stuff like this is intentional, but it’s totally possible
didn't expect a dramatic recreation of jesus' trial in a video about elon musk but ok. sure. makes sense
what if we kissed 💖🙈💖 wearing che guevara tshirts
haha just kidding... unless?...
No. Haha, jkjk.
...unless?
Not to disrespect my homie Che, but in early life he had some of that homophobia, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t stan him, just know he was a bit sospecho. Stan people like my homie Thomas Sankara, Vladimir Lenin, or the sexiest man alive José Mujica
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Fucking tankies. Though Sankara was pretty based tho
I wonder when people will stop idolizing rich people and start recognizing their guilt and how exploitation got them where they are
aw How more obtuse can you get? It is this attitude that makes people cower and not build themselves and become competent instead of remaining faceless and namesless and not being able to make history.
Othmane Anani Do you know Stalin? He wasnt a capitalist and is famous.
@@naj4261 Yes but he's not competent or on the right side of history and certainly not rich. He was responsible for the death of millions in Ukraine (1929-1931) that starved to death and then capitalized on canibalism.
@@othmaneanani8995 Bla bla bla...
Fuck the rich.
sali Your question is a logical fallacy. The death of people in Ukraine was because the communists took the harvest of the year, torn down the land owners and sent them to the gulag. A year after, and because there was no land owner to invest and circulate the economy by hiring farmers to farm lands and therefore everybody at least would not be starving, people started starving and then turned into cannibals. Because the only time people would be starving under capitalism would be because there is something out there that stops the economy and you can't do anything about it like the black Thursday 1929 where the government would try to make banks cut the interest rates and cut the taxes to loosen things up but the only reason why people would be starving under communism is because there is an inherent feature that fetters people from thriving and try to hand down a piece of bread and failed in the long term like the Holodomor famine 1932-1933 in the Soviet Ukraine. There is no incident in the history of capitalism where the rich is getting richer and the poor are eating themselves except if there is crisis that affect both classes or if the poor are outside the hierarchy of capitalism like in some countries in Africa and I am african so I can vouch for that.
Now my question to you would be to give me any of moment where the capitalist economy is thriving and the rich is getting richer but there are people starving, any moment of that? And please don't you ever use frivolous thinking and actual produce some intellectual thoughts
Abby, you are a damn fine actress!
One of the examples of Liberal Communism that struck me the hardest and gave me the most cognitive dissonance was when I went into a local corner store and found Che Guevara branded Energy Drinks there. And I bought one. Ironically. When I finally got home, I just stared at it on and off for hours and had an intense feeling of cognitive dissonance, and in a sense it was one of the first real encounters I had with The Absurd (as Camus describes it) as a teenager.
The commodification of revolution. It boggles the mind.
Is this some of that postmodern neomarxism that daddy warned me about?
No, this is Marxism Classic.
thanks lobster dad
Yes
Ah, a fellow ContraPoints fan I see.
If Elon is tech daddy is Dr Peterson lies daddy
Olly you can't do that flirting part to me.... I'm here to learn.
Plate Girl ahhhh I know right I’m trying to focus😍😍😍
He sees these comments and gets off to it I just know it
Please don't go around spreading that, he's already gotten people showing up in his personal life asking him to do terrible things to them. If people think he is getting off to it, they'll just do it more.
The man is a snacc and a half, but don't turn it into something like that.
I think one of my favourite demonstrations of Elon Musk's "wit" is how in May he lost ~$1 Billion with a single tweet.
Edit: turns out it was actually 3 billion lmao
@@baguettegott3409 said on twitter the Tesla stock is overpriced, getting it to drop 11% in a single night
"I don't take responsibility at all"
- Pontius J. Pilatus.
I disavow. 🙌💦
I almost understand flirting now and await the full video on it.
You can see the Contra influence, I love it.
2022 update: we are indeed living a backlash
I love how diversely artistic you are. I love the music the acting, the design and obviously the philosophy. Sure the singing isn't professional, but I really envy the breadth and creativity.
At this point I feel like philontrapoints is just flirting with *us*
In commulist BreadTube, potential couples ship YOU.
Part 3: Inspiring each other's video formats
We are all the meat in a youtuber sandwich.
@@titanuranus3095 I'm surprisingly ok with this....
I like ContraSophy much more...
"You can throw as much money as you like onto a sheet of metal"
Amazing how you were able to pin down the manufacturing process of the Cybertruck a year before its debut.
Obviously this is a fun joke, but the point is "throwing money at something" in the figurative sense still involves employing people in alienating work (especially alienating because what they are working on might not even benefit anyone at all)
Whereas his point about throwing money at a sheet of metal is literally just throwing money at it. Money on its own does nothing, you need wage slaves to actually get work done and generate the wealth you want.
Well, if you throw the money at it too hard the windows’ll break.
@@bravetherainbow
"(especially alienating because what they are working on might not even benefit anyone at all)"
So all innovation and risk is evil? We should be shackled to tradition just in case we accidentally fail?
In the early 1900's dozens of automobile start-ups popped up - most created single-digit units of prototype proof-of-concept cars, failed to find investment, and went bankrupt. Oh, how evil, how malicious Karl Benz was for daring to own a gasoline engine factory which led to the creation of the automobile! How many man-hours of work were wasted due to his shenanigans! Instead of leeching off enough money from his employees to make a vanity project of an autonomous carriage, he could have paid his employees a bit more instead. Who needs tractors, trucks and mass transit anyways?
@@roadent217 You could literally justify slavery with the argument you're making. If we just enslaved a whole race of people think of the amazing things we could accomplish! The slaves won't like it but that's too bad, we need INNOVATION
Also lol do you really think if Karl Benz hadn't ever existed then we still wouldn't have automobiles in 2020? Why would you ever think that? Do you think Karl Benz had magic powers?
My point was that there is a huge difference between A. trying something of your own accord that ends up failing, and B. being forced to work on someone else's idea that you have no input in and you get no credit for, just so you have enough money to pay rent, which ends up being useless anyway.
@@roadent217 As long we enslave everyone in Europe we can have infinite renewable energy. It’s innovative for sure and the technology will definitely be helpful so it’s justified right?
This topic deserves a 2nd edition. After Mr. Elon went full bananas and pretty much revealed him as a comic-book super-villain.
Look for a recent appearance on Joe Rogan in the height of covid which he was super frustrated (with what he kinda called mass delusion) and scary (tried to present that way) and talked about how people should get loans in order to afford getting Neuralink® chip into their heads and outperform the competition and succeed in the market (Even Rogan was like "wait, wat?").
So, you said "went full bananas" in past tense and it's been a year, I think I've got some news from 2022 for you...
Coming to you from the future, the cusp of 2023… it got worse. We need two more videos at least.
Bumping this again with all the Twitter fiasco
Seeing these old videos is so... uncanny! The new you really does feel like the true you. Congratulations, again, dear Abigail.
I nearly choked on my lunch at the shot of you throwing change against that tree. This might be my favorite video you've made yet!
"Investment!" lol
Cutaway shots are a welcomed addition. Good Show Olly
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If you throw enough change at a tree maybe the pieces that fly off will leave the shape of a chair one day.
as a very socially inept introvert i appreciated the comprehensive guide to flirting.
20:22
Maybe the real Elon Musk was the friends we made along the way.
Where is your pfp from?
This may need a sequel now
"The hippies all had scattered off,
To work their jobs at Microsoft,
The love had died, the war was lost,
And no-one really cared enough."
Reagan's Kids - That Handsome Devil.
It’s honestly a shame that Nikola Tesla became one of these Comprehensive Designers, he really did want to use his technology to help people regardless of corporate profit. In fact his plan for free, wireless electricity was shut down because it would essentially destroy capitals control of energy.
Blame fucker Edison
given enough time, anyone and anything that opposed the system, will be recuperated and co-opted by the system. again, Che Guevara t-shirts
I really hope the thing about wireless electricity is an irony on your side...
WinglessSparrow why on earth would it be? Regardless of whether or not it worked, the idea of free energy for all was done against the wishes of Tesla’s capitalist benefactors
@@dylanchouinard6141 It didn't worked out, because, my dear friend, you will need so much electricity to power this "free energy" machine, that the complete country wouldn't be able to support it. It's theoretically possible, but factually impractical. It's like Drinking water from a cup, but the cup is 20 Meters above you and it's very windy and you are trying to catch those water droplets by standing in one place, and in addition to that the stream of the water is very limited. Tesla wasted a lot of his genius, time and money on a completely useless idea. But props for the alternating current thou.
The quote, “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism“ is the TL;DR version of this video ❤️
Yet here we are
Yeah, only it is wrong. "There is no ethical consumption" in general, and quite possibly - capitalism is the most ethical of the systems the humanity has tried thus far.
This one is aging like fine wine. 👌
"Elon Musk was born in South Africa in 1971 having previously owned a slice of PayPal"
No wonder he has an advantage, he owned PayPal before he existed and before he was even born
Wasn't he the heir to a blood diamond fortunate?
No... Elon Musk founded X.com himself, which later merged with another company in 2010 (MUCH after he was born...) to FORM PayPal. He actually immigrated to the United States and was dirt poor. He worked blue collar jobs for a year and lived in poverty for a long time, look it up. He paid off his student loans by renting his apartment out to throw huge bangers. He's been programming since young age, and at age 12 he made his own video game. He's a genius. Come on now, don't play my mans!
@@justinlumpkin1686 Not quite.
@@justinlumpkin1686 let's be honest it's not a coincidence that he's a billionaire and his dad was also a billionaire who profited from blood diamonds
@@justinlumpkin1686 come on man, his dad was a billionaire, you really think that had nothing to do with his success
I laughed so hard at the "INVESTMENT!!" part. Great video Olly!
Please Elon part II
"Socialism for rich, capitalism for poor"
Flirt with me Philosophy Daddy
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Don't flirt. Just get into the bedroom and f-
This is the first time I've ever heard a good explanation of what flirting is. Thank you.
2:57 wow. as i'm writing this he is now THE richest man in the world with a net worth of 185 billion dollars. and he's made a good amount of the money that got him to #1 during the pandemic. if this isn't dystopian i don't know what is.
This hits different in 2021
the thing you said round 22:30 reminded me of something my dad told me. He works for the UN and soon after my 18th birthday I spoke to him about his personal responsibility in world issues and his role in all of it and he told me that he realised recently that he used to have the same passion as me but lost it somewhere on the way- as a kid he vowed to make the world better so he joined the system to change the system from inside, but eventually you get sucked up in the system and forget why you joined in the first place.
the passion is back now and very much being fuelled by my regular socialist rants lol
Agitate!
Educate!
Organize!
I'm rooting for your dad now!
What a wonderful thing to have your own child inspire you to be the person you always wanted to be. I hope he is proud of you 😊
T E C H D A D D Y
Edit: I think soon the word “daddy” will become an actual part of Marxist terminology recognized by academics.
Carl Krasnenky hello fellow child of the roses
One can hope!
The bit where she avoided directly saying elon discourages unionization didn’t age well...... hi from 2021 hehe
My mother always laughed rather sadly at the fact that the yarn she buys to knit her own jumpers are more expensive than buying a premade one in a shop... Someone is getting under payed.
RUclips has been trying to get me to watch this for half a year, and now, just one minute in, I’m regretting that I didn’t watch sooner.
RUclips used Flirt!
But the move failed for 6 months!
Then it was Super Effective!
Ask why.
Between contra, hbomb, and olly here got me out of the anti SJW spiral. I'm hoping one of them will do an episode on the book "why socialism?" Though
Try Vaush's channel too :)
Shaun is also really good
Maybe you should just read books instead.
Ealdy Maybe he already has and just wants to hear another take on the material?
Broken Cannon watch Jacob Geller
17:00 this is the moment you got me, it's so simple and so clear, I don't know how I didn't see it before. I always forget that the line is in this video, and thrilled when I come back and find it
Abigail, your videos are amazing!
I think about the pontius pilate thing when people say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" which is true and can be a valuable thing to say, but the context with which its used sometimes feels like a dodge, like they're less saying we need to get rid of this system which is inherently unethical and more saying "im innocent of this man's blood". same sentiment when that's your answer to someone bringing up the exploitation inherent in a good you've bought.
oof, i completely agree
So there is no solution, and we’re just circling the drain playing the blame game while the world just fucking burns.
See, this is why we need things to actually start happening. So we can quit playing a tug of war on guilt and start actually carving up the planet into ideological government and economic systems.
What is ethical consumption?
@@BasilNUmeh That's the joke.
Yeah right? Sometime's it's just such a cop out. Like okay well we're not bringing out the revolution tomorrow, so what do we do right now? We don't even bother trying to be more ethical?
Here after the announcement of the baby name X Æ A-12 Musk. Jesus. This man is a real world cartoon supervillain.
Can you really tell my why Elon musk is problem in this video? What's wrong with him according to people?
@Milan Dolk then who really is genuine by today's standards, people say he's fake, gates is fake, jobs is fake then who really is that we should look into and get something? Seems that it's Better to be flawed and get criticised than just watching video made by some RUclipsr who haven't tried what he did.
@Milan Dolk Yea I quite had disagreement about what he said about Corona virus and I still do. I think he has he's flaws and I'm aware of it. I just think that sometimes media trying to portray him as mark. Even though I agree with you at some point
chetan McConaughey it’s almost like all billionaires are bad
I dont think those multi milionaires ever claimed to be anti capitalist
I've spent the first like 10 minutes if this video wondering when Abby is gonna show up and who the guest on her channel is because I didn't check when this video was made and now I'm amused and silly
came for the guilt and mindfuk stayed for the absolute vibe at the end
The flirting worked on me.
Sorry for lowering the level of discussion in this comment section
good Lord we're quite alone aren't we
It is an honor to be part of a comment section that is even high enough to be lowered at all.
I legit blushed during that.
Me too lol
No, he got me too.
An hbomberguy AND PhilosophyTube video on the same day - my body is ready.
End/beginning of the month is a common time to upload videos.
And Lindsay Ellis. How dare these gorgeous people flood my inbox with wonderous content
@@intothepale3551 Add folding ideas to the list too.
and shaun!
@@atelic7978 How could we forget skull boy.
Did ... d- did I just have a sexual awakening when Olly started flirting??
Yesss the SMN shoutout!! One of my favorite channels shouting out another of my favorites is a simple pleasure
olly thorn just called me sexy and talented. depression is gone
Qué hermoso canal. Muchas gracias por su contenido, seguiré pasándome por aquí. ¡Felicitaciones por su labor!
This aged well
Philosophy Chad DEMOLISHES Elon Musk
@@retrozombie29 libertarian lol
Retro Zombie Elon musk is gonna send a man to Mars thanks to capitalism?
Imagine saying That in a world where a communist country was for years the leader in space exploration. And when they ware finely overtaken it was done with taxpayers money.
Retro Zombie lol what is the most popular orbital launch system in history the one we still use to send people to the iss . Oh right it's the Soyuz not gonna tell you when and where it was developed.
you're boy Elon btw bases (his engineers mostly ) lots of his rocket engine design on Russian designs from the Cold War. At least he haven't fallen for the "we good we did all good thing" trap.
If you ever want to be successful like him I suggest that you start reading instead of repeating Cold War propaganda.
Retro Zombie atrocities in the ussr is huge topic one it is hard to discuss in RUclips comment section(the worst form of human communication) it's something we should learn from and have learned from for example . What happens when you empower the state instead of the working class directly?
There are many thing one can learn from and improve upon by learning our history instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
I hope you try...comrade
How?
Now his child is named something I cant even pronounce
it's all For The Meme. He's a Cool Guy.
@@randomalienfrommars0567 Dude he incited a coup in my country that's not very cool from him
@@thehuman2cs715 I was being sarcastic lol
that being said can you tell me what incident you're talking about? More ammunition to debate the blind fanboys
@@randomalienfrommars0567 Debating his fanboys gives them legitimacy. They have none.
@@jnyererei understand that and won't waste my breath..but as for legitimacy? tell that to his rapidly increasing fortune because of the people kissing up to him whenever he barely even breathes.
ps. Knowing the incident will still be an interesting factoid tho
A great video - as ever! Plus, some helpful jumping off points for background information (Max Horkheimer, Theodore Adorno et.al). Thanks!
That intro skit brought so much joy to my soul.
I needed that so bad.
Sadly, as someone who never understood the 'game' of flirting, this video actually explained quite well what I have been missing in this social interaction all of these years.
Good job on that. The rest of the video was very good too.
12:06 to 13:14 is the most action I've gotten in months
Sooooooooooooooooooooo
Now this aged…. Interesting
brilliant video. slavoj zizek is very hard to comprehend. Thankyou for your translations are spot on and simpletons like me can translate them thanks to you. Also, i love your creativity. you're super fun to watch.