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Cybernetic pros: No more crippled limbs Cure for virtually every physical illness Cybernetic cons: Random 30 year old corporate virus may trap away your consciousness and store you in a timeless virtual torture server forever, for no reason
@@mrbigglezworth42 People can slap a cloned leg onto themselves for no Humanity Cost. A bare-bones cybernetic leg, arm etc is about 2d6 HC, maybe enough to knock off one point of Empathy/Charisma. The vast majority of people have interface jacks, maybe a biomonitor for a medical condition or a small luxury like a cellphone in the ear. They barely notice any Empathy loss.
A cloned meat leg, or a leg from the BodyBank, isn't too expensive. If you have the cash and time, they can grow you a replacement part. The BodyBank is more "take what you get" and "while supplies last". On the downside, people on the street know that an intact leg or organ is worth cash, and some places don't ask too many questions on where you found it as long as it's in good condition.
Cybernetic con: you can’t afford the firmware update the corpo released, now you’re dealing with the “forced obsolescence of your leg by its manufacturer.
Johnny was too proud of himself. He had the delusion that this was his plan all along, yet he was being used as a expendable pawn by the very corporations he sought to destroy.
Usually how it goes. Johnny was so narrow minded and enraptured by tunnel vision that he couldn't tell who were the real enemies and friends. The corps basically treated him like a 6 year old throwing a tantrum and not only got rid of him, but also let him think he was in control, which quieted him down and eliminated him as a threat in multiple ways at the same time. He never realized he was being manipulated, which is what the corpos wanted, although ironically both rogue and alt, women he considered to be less intelligent than him, did realize they were being manipulated and knew that they wouldnt be able to tell johnny, cause he wouldnt have listened anyways.. to any corps, both in cp77 universe and irl, you aren't a person, you're property, a number, a tool which is disposable at any given point, and there is ALWAYS someone above the guy you think is at the top of the food chain.
He remembers Shaitan at least. Shaitan could usually be hired for jobs to just bust a corp. Corporations weren't the only sponsors you could have in 2020, you could take jobs for a whole bunch of people.
LOL perfect cover for an attack honestly. No one will suspect a rock... People probably just assumed it was just a small asteroid... You can't be mad at space, but if they found out it was an orbital strike then you can blame someone.
@@melissajade7717 In 2020 there was a second or third wave of space colonisation going on. There is no fancy energy shields or superarmour to protect yourself from killer satellites. It's like a group of corps and nations sitting packed together in orbit with the ability to almost instantly wreck eachother and very carefully watching what the others are doing. This escalation leads to a responce eventually. The EU, the Soviets, the NUSA etc start to just kill anything that's not easily identifiable as a precaution.
Even after reading as much as I could from the tabletop manuals and playing 300+ hours of 2077, I still don't have much of a grasp of what happened. Thanks for this video.
I don't think I could even imagine how mad Alt must have been to be right at the finish line and watch as Johnny fucks up all her planning TWICE Mega RiP
I am certain Alt spent HOURS internally debating on whether or not to send Johnny a msg saying not to come get her, she’d be fine. Probably landed on he’d be too high.
He's saying that it would have been overly long to cram all of this into the time line video along with everything else this was originally apart of the script for that video
@@glockenspiel604honestly if a video is over an hour, then length sorta becomes irrelevant. If someone’s watching for an hour, 9 times out of 10 they’ll watch longer
Its incredible how powerful both Arasaka and Militech are, to be able to do what super power countries do. Mercenaries, hide/be scot free from war crimes, do proxy wars, etc. I also tend to forget how "traditionalist", Saburo is. He, at least partially, still is stuck in the WW 2 Japanese Empire's mindset. But its also funny, that the one to do most damage, wasn't Arasaka or Militech, but Bartmoss. A noticeable Merc who, even tho had Militech support, very likely choose to make and deploy RABIDS/DataKrash without his supporter greenlight. In a way, being in a space station (or a random tiny island) seems like the best place to live in the Cyberpunk universe.
Then how will anyone earn their kibble diet? Assuming that most genes for produce has been bought out by megacorps, you won't be able to grow your own food legally anymore
Cyberpunk as a genre also gives us insights of what the future could be if we let corporations and powerful individuals/groups amass power. Private military companys or pmcs are reemerging into the global scene. You had blackwater in the iraq war. You now have the wagner group fighting in ukraine. It won't be far off to have a corporation that could challenge nations in the near future.
Warfare between the corporations is much more about sabotage and spying. They don't field mass armies the same way the nation-states in the EU, Japan and the Americas can. A lot of troops the corps have on paper are security goons in place to hinder said saboteur strike forces, corporations with more sprawling physical assets to protect (like SovOil and Petrochem) have more people because these security guards swell their numbers. Europe still has proper armies around that fight on behalf of different EU interventions. Things are a lot different when the nation-states decide to have a go.
@@icarus387 Me thinks you don't know how prevalent private armies already are. Most people do not. Not only is it common but everybody takes part in it and not only do countries hire them but also run them. China for example fired hundreds of thousands of military personnel then shifted them over to a 'security company' used to 'defend' their foreign interests. They're just security guards with tanks bro. Or in the Ukraine war the US pretends not to be involved so they gave Ukraine infinite amount of money to hire US armed, funded, trained and recruited private armies. See? No US boots on the grounds. Technically. PMCs are canon fodder in all modern wars, conflicts or even just international economic interests. These people are all over Africa and have been for a long time. Corporations won't challenge nations. Corporations will BE nations. Either they will be one and the same or kept on a leash.
@@icarus387 cyberpunk fiction isn't a warning it's commentary. we've been living in a world with these rules for 100 years, maybe 200. we just haven't got the cool tech yet, but the idea is the same
See that is what was blowing my mind. I always think of Cyberpunk as 'everything is fucked, corps can do whatever they want and gov't is useless.' then find out that corps burned themselves out and gov't took back over, and everything was more-or-less destroyed.
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 Cybergeneration is canon as long as your group plays it. R. Talsorian isn't going to smash the door in and take your copy.
Wouldn't say they were the most moral, just different. Nusa would have done the same, if they could, and they used a nuke in the middle of a city. Don't know if I think killing 700,000 people is more moral 😅
The case nuke was supposed to be used on ground level which would've kept collateral pretty minimal. Nah, instead Johnny's infinite wisdom strikes again and turned a potential single building, maybe a leveled block, crash into an air burst similar to that of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I know it would probably be controversial, but I'd love to have like a prequel dlc or game set during the fourth corporate war, it sounds like a wildly chaotic and interesting time in the cp77 universe
I think an idea would be better a Spinoff game, like a sort of Comand and Conquer Game like the previous comment has mentioned, or perhaps create a sort of movement shooters based off of Titanfall and recent call of duty, where you could play either Arasaka or Militech or others Corporate Factions (Kang Tao, BioTechnica and so on) Around the world during the Fourth Corporation War, which imo it has ALOT of potential to do so.
@@justinmac316 maybe CDPR will consider this as RTS probably after the Unreal Engine Cyberpunk game successor was finished (with all their future DLCs probably.)
Cliche comment but, you definitely deserve more views for this deep lore. I might not be anyone important but, I love Cyberpunk & the deep lore is appreciated
I like long form documentary style videos like this. Feels incomplete to leave things out for the sake of time. Makes me curious as to what was left out. Either way keep the good work.
Sort of. If you chose to play a sponsored cyborg, the sponsoring organisation could fit you with a chip out of that movie. You can't act against superiors in that organisation. They can put in a cortex bomb locked as a separate system. You could get a turnoff switch.
Hey man all Im sayin is Militech wouldnt be the type to make something so sinister like soulkiller... More like a "hey this missile the size of your car can blow up the entire moon if you wanted, for the price of one of your beach houses down in the bahamas" kind of corp
my fan theory of johnny silverhand is that he did meet saburo arasaka and the scene where he meets him is true. Just slightly fucked with by his delusions to change his perspective. I think Johnny was already a captured engram at this point. and saburo (or maybe saburo's engram? it's obvious he would have way more freedom in mikoshi than the other victims) was just interrogating Johnny as he was already an engram. and johnny being killed with soulkiller is just arasaka torturing his engram. Johnny's egotism (and honestly him being an engram; constantly being tortured and staying in stasis for around 50 years) altered how he remembers it, making him think he wasn't an engram and that the interaction happened right after the explosion
Even tho Johnny fucked up saving alt, at least he tried. In night city someone caring enough to do that is nigh impossible to come by, especially willing to go to war with Arasaka to do it. You gotta respect Johnny for that even if he wasn't the bad ass morgan really was that night
Hot damn, anyone ever tell you that you sound like a younger announcer to the original b&w show The Twilight Zone? The sound resemblance is UNCANNY. This is 100% a complement if that isn’t clear btw.
If this isn’t the exact video I was looking for! Goddamn! So many lore videos that don’t give actual universe lore. Just random facts about certain characters or gangs. This video gave me the clarity I needed to piece together this universe’s story. You are a legend.
Adam Smasher is the GM's "fucker, be good!" stick in the TTRPG of Cyberpunk. A psychotic robot with an organic brain that never stops and can not be killed. He stops players from ever truly "ruling" Night City.
My thought is that the engram Spider made is 'pure' and probably still in her possession. Araska some how got their hands on a copy, and made copies of copies so many times it's a degraded mess. The one in Vs head is so removed from the real Johnny that at best you can say it's version of events are apocryphal.
Took me about a year to realize that johnny is an unreliable narrorator, really wish the game had something with V discovering this Genuinely had no idea that what johnny saw wasn't actually what happened, even though it makes much more sense that way.
The Alt-AI says as much in one of the conversation trees. The CP2077 depictions of both attacks on the Arasaka Tower (that we see from the perspective of Johnny's memories) wildly differ from how they were portrayed in the TTRPG sourcebooks.
The game beats you over the head with this and literally tells you this. The whole scene where you take out fifty arasaka guards armed with a one shot pistol as Johnny tipped me off the most(Johnny didn't brag much about his epic mercenary/solo career).
Ultimately everything about that night is kind of up to legend. There’s probably fragments of both that are true. Smasher probably saw both that night, johnnys memories may also be influenced by the stories V heard too. Blending of memories and such, explains the face off on the roof.
So did 2077 rewrite a lot of this lore, or is it accepted that Johnny memories and his own retelling of what happened in 2023 is skewed and inaccurate?
I say a little of both but certainly leaning on the latter. It was a bit eyebrow raising when noticing no mention of Morgan Blackhand during the tower attack and Shaitan going down easily never setting foot on the ground compared to the lore...Then knowing more about Johnny later on felt more and more like Johnny certainly had an ego. I wouldn't say he's incompetent but he just wasn't exactly Cyberpunk John Wick...Which I think Pondsmith compared Morgan Blackhand to even more so.
Johnny wasn't exactly in his right mind at the time, and as you and I know our memories can very often get skewed the fuck out. The fact that Morgan Blackhand wasn't even mentioned means Johnny didn't remember him, or chose not to. Some corpo PMC in another AV, who gives a shit? He's here to send his message and blow up the tower, that's all it is.
@@WatchmanGamingLore If you played the 2020 game and this campaign, you decide how things end. At that point in the game you are street legends close or equal to Spider, Shaitan and the others who might join them in that final assault.
@@jackvernian7779 That sounds a lot like 2020 Johnny. Adam Smasher's big rivalry is with Blackhand. Smasher takes it as a personal insult that people consider Morgan the greater solo, despite how much metal Arasaka fits him with and how much he piles up his bodycount. Morgan just has more experience and wits than Smasher.
That is the starting adventure right out the main book in 2020. At that point you are just goons on the street in Night City. Johnny shows up, says Alt has been kidnapped and proceeds to round up any pals he can find to help. You do a jaunt where you hit the streets finding out what's happened. That is the ending though, Johnny gets to her, finds her body and just picks it up and out of the office after killing the Arasaka goons who got her.
I no joke, bought every 2020 book, Cyberpunk red book, and am now currently working on collecting the 2013 as well as 3.0 books. I know the exact feeling you have LOOL
Johnny’s flashback isn’t really meant to be grandiose it’s just him trying to piece things together. Think about it like this, you run into Adam smasher get shot and wake up as an engram. The only people who have soul killer is arasaka -> Adam smasher works for arasaka -> Adam Smasher did not kill him -> somehow got to arasaka -> Arasaka didn’t kill him -> he gets turned into engram for??? -> punishment? As you see, this is how he pieced it together, and honestly it makes sense I mean he didn’t know that Murphy had a soul killer so that was his only logical way of breaking it down.
Great video! Very informative while relaxing, like a podcast. I would love a similar video detailing the rise to prominence of the EEC and its status in the years following the war to the 2077 setting.
Oh boy the fourth corporate war! Best story in the gta meta verse history ever. Truly affected the world into the point of some policing governments having to take over. Even the Albion PMC having to takeover UKs local and national policing and military as a means of replacement and the corporate connections have the uk government to cave over to Albion
What are you talking about? I've spent 6 hours yesterday watching a long form video esey about a summer holiday nostalgia rpg for the original Sony Playstation. I'd watch a full Harvard course about something like the 4th Corporate War if I had the option!
I think it would be interesting and kinda make sense if johnny's and morgan's engrams were corrupted and merged over the fifty years in a server. It would explain some of the inconsistencies in Johnny's memories.
so many backstories on the crop but so little main story about them, the game will be 10x better if allowed players to bring them all down or work for 1 of them
This reminds me a lot of alita battle angel storyline, a game where you play as a soldier in the cyberpunk universe would be insane. There is so many different possibilities it would be amazing. Like if we could see V as a soldier as well or something similar. In the next game they will definitely have to step things up to challenge gta 6.
Answer me this: The internet as we know it today is essentially just a bunch of pcs connected to each other, and servers that hold insane amounts of data act as the hubs for it. How is it possible that the old net in Cyberpunk's universe still exists after the crash? Wouldn't it make sense to just shut down the servers where the old net is located to avoid the dangers of trying to access it, and starts fresh? Is the one aspect of cyberpunk that I don't understand.
I don’t have a canon answer for you, but I’ll give you my best guess: Given the chaos of the datacrash, it might not be possible for Netwatch to track down all servers and rogue AI might be working to hide them. Supposedly Alt commandeered the net infrastructure of Hong Kong to make a home for victims of Soulkiller. Most modern networks are “fresh” and don’t have any connection to the old net. The Blackwall is intended to keep out anyone that does try to connect to it and prevent any spillover into connected systems.
Both Militech and Arasaka have gotten too greedy and too blind by the very people who they hired or employed like Bartmoss when he planted his viruses in their software and hardware and then BOOM!!! The legendary Netrunner did more damage to both corporations then anyone else.
Everyone seems to think that jhonny thought he was better than he is but the evidence points to him being a pretty damn successful merc. Narcissism needs some kind of bassis. He may be a crazy asshole but hes a crazy asshole that was good enough to be paired with Morgan Blackhand to Nuke arasaka.
When you’re watching the news in the megabuilding elevator in-game, they place the death toll at like 15,000 instead of 750,000. Is this a retcon, or just corpo media doing it’s thing?
Probably a retcon. The 750,000 number comes from the tabletop sourcebooks, but it’s absurdly high for what should be a small tactical nuke. 15,000 is a much more reasonable number.
Honestly, they took johnny as an engram for interrogation, just to figure out the small details prolly, the evidence no one thinks matters, until it does, like what river said about the air conditioner and the headaches bit. Small details like "who lead the team, who was the netrunner, who put the nuke down, and johnny probably said "ME, ME, ME" He was a frontman for a hardcore punk band, in our world they go hard, (i could only imagine how anti authoritarian younger, non engram Johnny is.) Fifty years of lying to your interrogators can make you think it's a truthful statement. I always say I'm having a good day even if I'm not and by the end of the day I think I had a good day, imagine how certain 50 odd years would get ya,
I wish youtube would have a base volume, Some peoples videos are so loud I have to turn them down. Most the time, their music is loud and I can't understand a thing they are saying. Here, I have the volume almost ALL the way up and it still sounds like the guy is mumbling. Then I click the next video and my neighbors 3 doors down can here every detail in the youtubers voice. I can't even watch this, it would be like if I could make my writing 50x smaller, you can tell I said something but you wouldn't be able to tell what it said. Cachet can mean "prestige," "medicine to be swallowed," or "an official seal," and is pronounced "cash-ay." So Johnny being a deserter helped his....prestige? What a confusing use of the word, but ok, I guess it is used in the game but I had to look that word up and then start the video over to see what it meant in your sentence. So....good luck but fck this noise
The Highriders are such a cool idea. Like, in this grim corporate dystopia, you have these new nations of low-orbit afrofuturists living on satellites. That's just a great concept.
Italy is part of the “European Economic Community” in this setting, which generally acts as a block in larger events. There’s a sourcebook for Europe that breaks down most countries in depth. I plan to make a video on it when I have time.
See my video on the 1990-2020 Cyberpunk timeline. Long story short, Petrochem (American Oil Company) and SovOil (Soviet State Oil Company) start fighting over territory in the South China Sea and oil rigs start exploding…
@@WatchmanGamingLore SovOil is funky, basically a large soviet state company turned private and autonomous. The Soviet Union in 2020 has power divided between three pillars, the president with the remaining state security organs and army, SovOil who has gathered most of the economic power to them and the constantly warring organitskaya factions AKA russian mafia. The Soviet Union has a pretty good relation with the EU. Petrochem and SovOil have a lot of troops in the books. The vast majority of them are site security, both have sprawling logistics and extraction infrastructure they need to protect from sabotage (or try to sabotage their rival's).
If something like “Soulkiller” were to become an actual thing, and if the Afterlife (not the bar. I mean Heaven or Hell) was a legit thing, what about one’s soul? I mean, with a name like Soulkiller, it’s kinda obvious but, the soul itself I recall hearing is connected to one’s consciousness. Thing is, if the spirit/soul is supposed to move on to Heaven or Hell, what would that mean for the personality stored on the engram? Would it cause some kind of twisted duality between the digital personality and the actual spirit/soul itself?
He didn't show up in person in a lot of adventures. Sometimes he'd pop in and try to make others act on his behalf. Bartmoss' biggest protection was his secrecy.
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I still love that Johnny Silverhand is so full of himself that he thinks the raid on arasaka tower was his idea
It wasn't?
@@itsjake666No. I think it actually was Morgan Blackhand's idea
@@karteltheinterrex4335 they were both hired by militech
@@itsjake666 militech
@@Mothman1992 ohhhhhhh
Cybernetic pros:
No more crippled limbs
Cure for virtually every physical illness
Cybernetic cons:
Random 30 year old corporate virus may trap away your consciousness and store you in a timeless virtual torture server forever, for no reason
I'm with archer on this one.
Biggest cybernetic con: you installed to much metal and have lost your grip on reality becoming a horrible killing machine shaped like a man.
@@mrbigglezworth42 People can slap a cloned leg onto themselves for no Humanity Cost. A bare-bones cybernetic leg, arm etc is about 2d6 HC, maybe enough to knock off one point of Empathy/Charisma.
The vast majority of people have interface jacks, maybe a biomonitor for a medical condition or a small luxury like a cellphone in the ear. They barely notice any Empathy loss.
A cloned meat leg, or a leg from the BodyBank, isn't too expensive. If you have the cash and time, they can grow you a replacement part. The BodyBank is more "take what you get" and "while supplies last".
On the downside, people on the street know that an intact leg or organ is worth cash, and some places don't ask too many questions on where you found it as long as it's in good condition.
Cybernetic con: you can’t afford the firmware update the corpo released, now you’re dealing with the “forced obsolescence of your leg by its manufacturer.
Johnny was too proud of himself. He had the delusion that this was his plan all along, yet he was being used as a expendable pawn by the very corporations he sought to destroy.
Usually how it goes. Johnny was so narrow minded and enraptured by tunnel vision that he couldn't tell who were the real enemies and friends. The corps basically treated him like a 6 year old throwing a tantrum and not only got rid of him, but also let him think he was in control, which quieted him down and eliminated him as a threat in multiple ways at the same time. He never realized he was being manipulated, which is what the corpos wanted, although ironically both rogue and alt, women he considered to be less intelligent than him, did realize they were being manipulated and knew that they wouldnt be able to tell johnny, cause he wouldnt have listened anyways.. to any corps, both in cp77 universe and irl, you aren't a person, you're property, a number, a tool which is disposable at any given point, and there is ALWAYS someone above the guy you think is at the top of the food chain.
Not much more cyberpunk than that
He remembers Shaitan at least. Shaitan could usually be hired for jobs to just bust a corp. Corporations weren't the only sponsors you could have in 2020, you could take jobs for a whole bunch of people.
Homie literally said they dropped a rock from orbit and destroyed a city blocked to kill one person so casually 💀💀💀
LOL perfect cover for an attack honestly. No one will suspect a rock... People probably just assumed it was just a small asteroid... You can't be mad at space, but if they found out it was an orbital strike then you can blame someone.
To kill Rache Bartmoss. Sadly that was their biggest mistake...
Just shows how little they thought of human life. At that point people werent even animals to them, much less living people.
@@melissajade7717 In 2020 there was a second or third wave of space colonisation going on. There is no fancy energy shields or superarmour to protect yourself from killer satellites.
It's like a group of corps and nations sitting packed together in orbit with the ability to almost instantly wreck eachother and very carefully watching what the others are doing.
This escalation leads to a responce eventually. The EU, the Soviets, the NUSA etc start to just kill anything that's not easily identifiable as a precaution.
A rc FUll size plane with a fresh cadaver pilot and a simultaneous ninja missile strike
Even after reading as much as I could from the tabletop manuals and playing 300+ hours of 2077, I still don't have much of a grasp of what happened. Thanks for this video.
Essentially corporations created a big commotion like children until the real militaries told them to sit the fuck down.
It's supposed to be open for RP reasons.
I don't think I could even imagine how mad Alt must have been to be right at the finish line and watch as Johnny fucks up all her planning TWICE Mega RiP
I am certain Alt spent HOURS internally debating on whether or not to send Johnny a msg saying not to come get her, she’d be fine. Probably landed on he’d be too high.
This is not overly long, it's really interesting and show us WHY CP2077 is so cool, Pondsmith's source material is just so rich and vivid.
Might not be a good idea to abbreviate Cyberpunk 2077 with cp
@@White_Recluse Yeah, FBI may mistook you for something else.
@@White_Recluse I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Lemme guess, ANOTHER USA only BS forbidden and secret BS?
He's saying that it would have been overly long to cram all of this into the time line video along with everything else this was originally apart of the script for that video
@@glockenspiel604honestly if a video is over an hour, then length sorta becomes irrelevant. If someone’s watching for an hour, 9 times out of 10 they’ll watch longer
Its incredible how powerful both Arasaka and Militech are, to be able to do what super power countries do. Mercenaries, hide/be scot free from war crimes, do proxy wars, etc.
I also tend to forget how "traditionalist", Saburo is. He, at least partially, still is stuck in the WW 2 Japanese Empire's mindset.
But its also funny, that the one to do most damage, wasn't Arasaka or Militech, but Bartmoss. A noticeable Merc who, even tho had Militech support, very likely choose to make and deploy RABIDS/DataKrash without his supporter greenlight.
In a way, being in a space station (or a random tiny island) seems like the best place to live in the Cyberpunk universe.
Then how will anyone earn their kibble diet? Assuming that most genes for produce has been bought out by megacorps, you won't be able to grow your own food legally anymore
Cyberpunk as a genre also gives us insights of what the future could be if we let corporations and powerful individuals/groups amass power. Private military companys or pmcs are reemerging into the global scene. You had blackwater in the iraq war. You now have the wagner group fighting in ukraine. It won't be far off to have a corporation that could challenge nations in the near future.
Warfare between the corporations is much more about sabotage and spying. They don't field mass armies the same way the nation-states in the EU, Japan and the Americas can.
A lot of troops the corps have on paper are security goons in place to hinder said saboteur strike forces, corporations with more sprawling physical assets to protect (like SovOil and Petrochem) have more people because these security guards swell their numbers.
Europe still has proper armies around that fight on behalf of different EU interventions. Things are a lot different when the nation-states decide to have a go.
@@icarus387 Me thinks you don't know how prevalent private armies already are. Most people do not. Not only is it common but everybody takes part in it and not only do countries hire them but also run them. China for example fired hundreds of thousands of military personnel then shifted them over to a 'security company' used to 'defend' their foreign interests. They're just security guards with tanks bro.
Or in the Ukraine war the US pretends not to be involved so they gave Ukraine infinite amount of money to hire US armed, funded, trained and recruited private armies. See? No US boots on the grounds. Technically. PMCs are canon fodder in all modern wars, conflicts or even just international economic interests. These people are all over Africa and have been for a long time.
Corporations won't challenge nations. Corporations will BE nations. Either they will be one and the same or kept on a leash.
@@icarus387 cyberpunk fiction isn't a warning it's commentary. we've been living in a world with these rules for 100 years, maybe 200. we just haven't got the cool tech yet, but the idea is the same
This honestly makes it sound like they were heading towards a post-cyberpunk world.
They were - the carbon plague wiped out most of humanity and the children made a better planet.
@@silvercat18 AAAAAAAND it was retconned but yes cyberpunk 2023 had a sequel
See that is what was blowing my mind. I always think of Cyberpunk as 'everything is fucked, corps can do whatever they want and gov't is useless.'
then find out that corps burned themselves out and gov't took back over, and everything was more-or-less destroyed.
@@silvercat18 CyberGeneration is pretty funky.
There was a Cyberpunk 2 or 3 game as well, even smaller and mostly forgotten.
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 Cybergeneration is canon as long as your group plays it. R. Talsorian isn't going to smash the door in and take your copy.
You know shit's bad when the US military is the most moral faction in the whole situation
Wouldn't say they were the most moral, just different. Nusa would have done the same, if they could, and they used a nuke in the middle of a city. Don't know if I think killing 700,000 people is more moral 😅
US military is generally considered the morale high ground. Even IRL lmfao
@@rbrick3685 Lol.
@@rbrick3685 Yeah, American propaganda haha 😅
The case nuke was supposed to be used on ground level which would've kept collateral pretty minimal. Nah, instead Johnny's infinite wisdom strikes again and turned a potential single building, maybe a leveled block, crash into an air burst similar to that of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
It's a real shame there aren't novels written in this universe.
There one coming up in the summer
I know it would probably be controversial, but I'd love to have like a prequel dlc or game set during the fourth corporate war, it sounds like a wildly chaotic and interesting time in the cp77 universe
a DLC, maybe? Revisiting all of that via a BD, but actually being in control
I was imagining a command and conquer type game where you control one of the factions and vie for world dominance
I think an idea would be better a Spinoff game, like a sort of Comand and Conquer Game like the previous comment has mentioned, or perhaps create a sort of movement shooters based off of Titanfall and recent call of duty, where you could play either Arasaka or Militech or others Corporate Factions (Kang Tao, BioTechnica and so on) Around the world during the Fourth Corporation War, which imo it has ALOT of potential to do so.
@@justinmac316 maybe CDPR will consider this as RTS probably after the Unreal Engine Cyberpunk game successor was finished (with all their future DLCs probably.)
the 7 hour war, huh... where have i heard that before
Cliche comment but, you definitely deserve more views for this deep lore. I might not be anyone important but, I love Cyberpunk & the deep lore is appreciated
I like long form documentary style videos like this. Feels incomplete to leave things out for the sake of time. Makes me curious as to what was left out. Either way keep the good work.
So Smashers origin is basically evil RoboCop that works as a PMC
Sort of. If you chose to play a sponsored cyborg, the sponsoring organisation could fit you with a chip out of that movie. You can't act against superiors in that organisation. They can put in a cortex bomb locked as a separate system. You could get a turnoff switch.
Militech seems to be the lighter shade of gray. Only by a bit, though.
12:00 Spark.
21:41 Crash.
Hey man all Im sayin is Militech wouldnt be the type to make something so sinister like soulkiller... More like a "hey this missile the size of your car can blow up the entire moon if you wanted, for the price of one of your beach houses down in the bahamas" kind of corp
my fan theory of johnny silverhand is that he did meet saburo arasaka and the scene where he meets him is true. Just slightly fucked with by his delusions to change his perspective. I think Johnny was already a captured engram at this point. and saburo (or maybe saburo's engram? it's obvious he would have way more freedom in mikoshi than the other victims) was just interrogating Johnny as he was already an engram. and johnny being killed with soulkiller is just arasaka torturing his engram. Johnny's egotism (and honestly him being an engram; constantly being tortured and staying in stasis for around 50 years) altered how he remembers it, making him think he wasn't an engram and that the interaction happened right after the explosion
You deserve way more subs, this is great stuff
The best story in the cyberpunk game
Seriously stellar work putting this together using all the lore. Really spectacular. Thank you very much for putting the time into this.
Even tho Johnny fucked up saving alt, at least he tried. In night city someone caring enough to do that is nigh impossible to come by, especially willing to go to war with Arasaka to do it. You gotta respect Johnny for that even if he wasn't the bad ass morgan really was that night
Imagine a world where Facebook, Twitter, apple, and google fight wars. And yahoo “remember me guys?”
(Nervously eyes Disney…)
Hot damn, anyone ever tell you that you sound like a younger announcer to the original b&w show The Twilight Zone? The sound resemblance is UNCANNY.
This is 100% a complement if that isn’t clear btw.
You have an amazing voice for storytelling! Honestly made the video so much more enjoyable!
Such an under rated channel.
The surge of CP2077 popularity is giving him some much needed traction.
You have the best voice and narrative style for this. Thanks so much for your hard work
Wow, did not expect Colombia to not only take part but to do something significant
AND YET ITS FUCKING MISPELLED IN THE SOURCEBOOK LMAO. Thats life lol
If this isn’t the exact video I was looking for! Goddamn! So many lore videos that don’t give actual universe lore. Just random facts about certain characters or gangs. This video gave me the clarity I needed to piece together this universe’s story. You are a legend.
"Civilian casualties were guaranteed, in fact, he *insisted* on it"
based
People still consider Morgan Blackhand the greatest solo of that time, and Smasher hates it.
Adam Smasher is the GM's "fucker, be good!" stick in the TTRPG of Cyberpunk. A psychotic robot with an organic brain that never stops and can not be killed. He stops players from ever truly "ruling" Night City.
Yo man only recently got into cyberpunk because of edgerunners (no shame) and I’m really enjoying it! love the vid definitely gonna check out more
This has been one of the most indepth dives I've seen. Thanx so much.
Gonna be busy all day with the googlable terms I've heard
the fact that your voice sounds like William S Burroughs adds to the video's entertainment quality.
Amazing stuff, thanks!
Keep going, your videos are amazing;)
Everytime I think of corporate wars Im reminded of demolition man
My thought is that the engram Spider made is 'pure' and probably still in her possession. Araska some how got their hands on a copy, and made copies of copies so many times it's a degraded mess. The one in Vs head is so removed from the real Johnny that at best you can say it's version of events are apocryphal.
Took me about a year to realize that johnny is an unreliable narrorator, really wish the game had something with V discovering this
Genuinely had no idea that what johnny saw wasn't actually what happened, even though it makes much more sense that way.
Memory is unreliable
The Alt-AI says as much in one of the conversation trees. The CP2077 depictions of both attacks on the Arasaka Tower (that we see from the perspective of Johnny's memories) wildly differ from how they were portrayed in the TTRPG sourcebooks.
The game beats you over the head with this and literally tells you this. The whole scene where you take out fifty arasaka guards armed with a one shot pistol as Johnny tipped me off the most(Johnny didn't brag much about his epic mercenary/solo career).
The seven hour war? Who won, the Combine?
Pick up that can.
Not sure if it’s intentional or a happy happenstance, but you sound an awful lot like Burroughs.
It’s a good thing!
This entire video, I’m listening to this thinking bird person is narrating it for me.
Don't they say in game that Johnny has altered his memories
Meaning red could be correct while the game gives us Johnny's ideal death
Someone else mentioned it on a different video
Basically a more heroic death where he met the big bad at all that
Ultimately everything about that night is kind of up to legend. There’s probably fragments of both that are true. Smasher probably saw both that night, johnnys memories may also be influenced by the stories V heard too. Blending of memories and such, explains the face off on the roof.
I would have listened to this even if it was 4 hours long
This is great, love the content. Only criticism I have is that your audio is very low, when the video cuts to an ad I have to turn the volume down.
Thanks! Yeah, I had that problem with a lot of my old videos. I’ve upped the audio in my more recent videos.
@@WatchmanGamingLore It really is informative. Helped me understand and fill in a lot of info I was missing.
Fantastic video.
I hadn’t looked into the 4th Corp War much, but like. Wow.
What a huge fucking mess.
Oh shit, I had no Idea Nance was so hardcore :) You throw bastards from the windows !
Anyone who lives to a VERY old age in the cyberpunk universe are either very wealthy, ruthless, tough as heck, or a combination of the above.
So did 2077 rewrite a lot of this lore, or is it accepted that Johnny memories and his own retelling of what happened in 2023 is skewed and inaccurate?
I don’t think we know for sure. In game Alt says that Johnny’s memories aren’t accurate though.
I say a little of both but certainly leaning on the latter.
It was a bit eyebrow raising when noticing no mention of Morgan Blackhand during the tower attack and Shaitan going down easily never setting foot on the ground compared to the lore...Then knowing more about Johnny later on felt more and more like Johnny certainly had an ego. I wouldn't say he's incompetent but he just wasn't exactly Cyberpunk John Wick...Which I think Pondsmith compared Morgan Blackhand to even more so.
Johnny wasn't exactly in his right mind at the time, and as you and I know our memories can very often get skewed the fuck out. The fact that Morgan Blackhand wasn't even mentioned means Johnny didn't remember him, or chose not to. Some corpo PMC in another AV, who gives a shit? He's here to send his message and blow up the tower, that's all it is.
@@WatchmanGamingLore If you played the 2020 game and this campaign, you decide how things end. At that point in the game you are street legends close or equal to Spider, Shaitan and the others who might join them in that final assault.
@@jackvernian7779 That sounds a lot like 2020 Johnny. Adam Smasher's big rivalry is with Blackhand. Smasher takes it as a personal insult that people consider Morgan the greater solo, despite how much metal Arasaka fits him with and how much he piles up his bodycount.
Morgan just has more experience and wits than Smasher.
i apparently managed to beat this game without learning a damn thing about the world its set in.
in the game she is killed by johnny who disconnects her. so she cant transfer back to her body. alt says so literally later on.
That is the starting adventure right out the main book in 2020. At that point you are just goons on the street in Night City. Johnny shows up, says Alt has been kidnapped and proceeds to round up any pals he can find to help. You do a jaunt where you hit the streets finding out what's happened.
That is the ending though, Johnny gets to her, finds her body and just picks it up and out of the office after killing the Arasaka goons who got her.
@@SusCalvin yeah killing her in the process right? the "soul" cant find the body anymore, so its game over.
Goddamn.
I want to play that Pen and paper RPG
I no joke, bought every 2020 book, Cyberpunk red book, and am now currently working on collecting the 2013 as well as 3.0 books.
I know the exact feeling you have LOOL
Johnny’s flashback isn’t really meant to be grandiose it’s just him trying to piece things together. Think about it like this, you run into Adam smasher get shot and wake up as an engram.
The only people who have soul killer is arasaka -> Adam smasher works for arasaka -> Adam Smasher did not kill him -> somehow got to arasaka -> Arasaka didn’t kill him -> he gets turned into engram for??? -> punishment?
As you see, this is how he pieced it together, and honestly it makes sense I mean he didn’t know that Murphy had a soul killer so that was his only logical way of breaking it down.
Great video! Very informative while relaxing, like a podcast. I would love a similar video detailing the rise to prominence of the EEC and its status in the years following the war to the 2077 setting.
Your videos are so well made
Hopefully you cover the MegaCorps themselves in a vid
Oh boy the fourth corporate war! Best story in the gta meta verse history ever. Truly affected the world into the point of some policing governments having to take over. Even the Albion PMC having to takeover UKs local and national policing and military as a means of replacement and the corporate connections have the uk government to cave over to Albion
You in the multiverse of games including Albion
i knew it was quite bad but i didnt expected from edgerunners to be THAT bad
What are you talking about? I've spent 6 hours yesterday watching a long form video esey about a summer holiday nostalgia rpg for the original Sony Playstation. I'd watch a full Harvard course about something like the 4th Corporate War if I had the option!
Great story
I think it would be interesting and kinda make sense if johnny's and morgan's engrams were corrupted and merged over the fifty years in a server. It would explain some of the inconsistencies in Johnny's memories.
Great video. thanks chooom!!!!
This sounds like in real life reality America in real time
so many backstories on the crop but so little main story about them, the game will be 10x better if allowed players to bring them all down or work for 1 of them
Great video please make more hyper in depth long form videos
You have a wonderful voice for narration, is there a way to convince you to make an audiobook of Neuromancer?
This reminds me a lot of alita battle angel storyline, a game where you play as a soldier in the cyberpunk universe would be insane. There is so many different possibilities it would be amazing. Like if we could see V as a soldier as well or something similar. In the next game they will definitely have to step things up to challenge gta 6.
Maybe something set during this war or the unification war that took place 7 years before the events of cyberpunk 2077.
I hope they make a anime of this war
Really enjoyed these videos
Off course they have to send corporate CIA to Chile again....
Now this is the COD game we deserve
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“All that… “
“Over water”
What happened to Alt is just really dark
Amazing work!!
I want so much more info on bartmoss
I hereby declare any list of all time best cyberpunk writers not including Mike Pondsmith to be factually incorrect.
Johnny is definitely not a hero he’s a photocopy , same shit as the Star Trek teleporter issue.
Answer me this: The internet as we know it today is essentially just a bunch of pcs connected to each other, and servers that hold insane amounts of data act as the hubs for it. How is it possible that the old net in Cyberpunk's universe still exists after the crash? Wouldn't it make sense to just shut down the servers where the old net is located to avoid the dangers of trying to access it, and starts fresh? Is the one aspect of cyberpunk that I don't understand.
I don’t have a canon answer for you, but I’ll give you my best guess:
Given the chaos of the datacrash, it might not be possible for Netwatch to track down all servers and rogue AI might be working to hide them. Supposedly Alt commandeered the net infrastructure of Hong Kong to make a home for victims of Soulkiller. Most modern networks are “fresh” and don’t have any connection to the old net. The Blackwall is intended to keep out anyone that does try to connect to it and prevent any spillover into connected systems.
So fuggin good!
Great video; please crank up the audio.
Both Militech and Arasaka have gotten too greedy and too blind by the very people who they hired or employed like Bartmoss when he planted his viruses in their software and hardware and then BOOM!!! The legendary Netrunner did more damage to both corporations then anyone else.
Everyone seems to think that jhonny thought he was better than he is but the evidence points to him being a pretty damn successful merc. Narcissism needs some kind of bassis. He may be a crazy asshole but hes a crazy asshole that was good enough to be paired with Morgan Blackhand to Nuke arasaka.
When you’re watching the news in the megabuilding elevator in-game, they place the death toll at like 15,000 instead of 750,000. Is this a retcon, or just corpo media doing it’s thing?
Probably a retcon. The 750,000 number comes from the tabletop sourcebooks, but it’s absurdly high for what should be a small tactical nuke.
15,000 is a much more reasonable number.
Honestly, they took johnny as an engram for interrogation, just to figure out the small details prolly, the evidence no one thinks matters, until it does, like what river said about the air conditioner and the headaches bit.
Small details like "who lead the team, who was the netrunner, who put the nuke down, and johnny probably said "ME, ME, ME"
He was a frontman for a hardcore punk band, in our world they go hard, (i could only imagine how anti authoritarian younger, non engram Johnny is.)
Fifty years of lying to your interrogators can make you think it's a truthful statement.
I always say I'm having a good day even if I'm not and by the end of the day I think I had a good day, imagine how certain 50 odd years would get ya,
I wish youtube would have a base volume, Some peoples videos are so loud I have to turn them down. Most the time, their music is loud and I can't understand a thing they are saying. Here, I have the volume almost ALL the way up and it still sounds like the guy is mumbling. Then I click the next video and my neighbors 3 doors down can here every detail in the youtubers voice.
I can't even watch this, it would be like if I could make my writing 50x smaller, you can tell I said something but you wouldn't be able to tell what it said.
Cachet can mean "prestige," "medicine to be swallowed," or "an official seal," and is pronounced "cash-ay." So Johnny being a deserter helped his....prestige? What a confusing use of the word, but ok, I guess it is used in the game but I had to look that word up and then start the video over to see what it meant in your sentence. So....good luck but fck this noise
Where'd you get all those awesome info images, an links?
00:13 - 1:13 ..I played and finished cyberpunk but don't remember this part being in the game. could anybody tell me when you get to this cutscene?
This is if you chose the Corpo life path for the begining of the game
The Highriders are such a cool idea.
Like, in this grim corporate dystopia, you have these new nations of low-orbit afrofuturists living on satellites. That's just a great concept.
17:20 leave chile alone
''ipanemo''
Bailey?
Have you thought about a career in voice acting? Your voice sounds perfect for commentary
Based us government
I ask for a redo of this because it's so quiet
No Italy in the story ?
We were 5th economy in 90s, why aren't we cited ?
Italy is part of the “European Economic Community” in this setting, which generally acts as a block in larger events. There’s a sourcebook for Europe that breaks down most countries in depth. I plan to make a video on it when I have time.
but what about the first corporate war?😐
See my video on the 1990-2020 Cyberpunk timeline. Long story short, Petrochem (American Oil Company) and SovOil (Soviet State Oil Company) start fighting over territory in the South China Sea and oil rigs start exploding…
@@WatchmanGamingLore SovOil is funky, basically a large soviet state company turned private and autonomous. The Soviet Union in 2020 has power divided between three pillars, the president with the remaining state security organs and army, SovOil who has gathered most of the economic power to them and the constantly warring organitskaya factions AKA russian mafia. The Soviet Union has a pretty good relation with the EU.
Petrochem and SovOil have a lot of troops in the books. The vast majority of them are site security, both have sprawling logistics and extraction infrastructure they need to protect from sabotage (or try to sabotage their rival's).
corporate socialism
If something like “Soulkiller” were to become an actual thing, and if the Afterlife (not the bar. I mean Heaven or Hell) was a legit thing, what about one’s soul? I mean, with a name like Soulkiller, it’s kinda obvious but, the soul itself I recall hearing is connected to one’s consciousness.
Thing is, if the spirit/soul is supposed to move on to Heaven or Hell, what would that mean for the personality stored on the engram? Would it cause some kind of twisted duality between the digital personality and the actual spirit/soul itself?
What you call a soul is conciseness, literally no difference unless you bring religion into it.
What book are the panels from?
Probably cyberpunk 2020 ttrpg books
What horrible thing it is to die for one’s corporation
rash bartmoss
He didn't show up in person in a lot of adventures. Sometimes he'd pop in and try to make others act on his behalf. Bartmoss' biggest protection was his secrecy.