M. Shadows Breaks Down Avenged Sevenfold's Record Deal Issues
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Avenged Sevenfold frontman M. Shadows was interviewed in this month's edition of Kerrang and spoke about his relationship with his former record label. In the shifting landscape, M. Shadows spoke on how labels are trying to adapt and questions whether they are adding value in some cases.
Source: Full Kerrang! interview - www.kerrang.com/avenged-seven...
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No one needs record labels anymore
Let’s hope so. Same with these companies like Live Nation. Hopefully they will start to lose power.
so musicians need to be not only musicians, but business managers, marketing specialists, tour managers, etc etc etc....
Facts
This is actually true.
@@LSib32 That's what all unsigned bands do. Besides creating and recording the music, they need to organise concerts (negotiate how much they get paid, if they get a share of the drinks sold at the venue, etc...), make their own posters, flyers and/or send emails to promote the concerts, manage their online presence...
I find it ironic (and disrespectful) that often, a label will only sign you if you've already done all the work and have a decent amount of followers!
A7X Is definitely ahead of the game when it comes to technology and people hate them for being ahead of things!! 🌚
crypto/nft scam is not it, no matter how much you see it, it is NOT.
The stage was way ahead!
People really shit on them regarding their Deathbat NFT’s. You know what, you don’t have to buy them. Just keep it moving.
I wish avenged had more attention today. They are still solid live and have proven they are still on top of the genre.
@@kelvinzaragoza6349 There's much money roll around making bands goes viral , but his fans are involved asf with the band and it seems be enough for the band. I think that A7X will be a much bigger band in some years...
Love the BABYMETAL shirt! It has been so fun for me to get back into avenged sevenfold again, and glad M Shadows is calling them out.
This was a very informative newsfeed. Probably one of the best so far.
Thumb nail : m shadows talking
Video : This guy reciting what he read about m shadows on the internet
His shit has become so clickbait-y.
Btw the thumbnail is taked from one of the biggest Indonesian tv show when they come to Indonesia.
Man this dude does this every video I skip through to see when the REAL dude starts talking and never even seen him
The tiktok shitty record deal happened to Jeris Johnson and Sueco. They both went dark for about a year or so to get out of contracts
I think Musician founded labels are going to become more and more common and eventually run out the more corporate suit labels. Like Housecore with Phil Anselmo, Blackened Recordings with Metallica, and Dave Grohl with Roswell
Stevie van zandt has done great with wicked cool records
Trent reznor had his with nothing records.
Periphery with 3 Dot
Metal bands have been on video games for decades. Avenged sevenfold was on ssx on tour and guitar hero. Almost 20 years ago.
Gran Turismo 3 & Need for Speed as well
Need for speed as well
Can’t forget call of duty
NHL 06 and 09 too
i love that so many artists are exposing all of this corruption. A7X FTW! brave for artists to talk about this stuff. thaks Rockfeed. 😎👊
Praying all record labels go bankrupt. I've turned down two trash offers already. You don't even need an attorney anymore with gemini chat. Saved me from 4 years of Confinement.
Yeah but they probably would have promoted you, hows that working out?
@@patientmental875bro wouldn’t have gotten signed anyway with how much he uses the fslur in comments lmaooo
You're to much of a hater anyway to move up in that area of life. just saying
No one offered you a deal!
These guys put on a FN PERFECT show!
A7X is legendary. One of my absolute favorite bands live 🤘🏼
I feel like nowadays, the major perks to having a record label is that they can cover the overhead costs. Production for shows, touring, music videos, having access or contacts who are reputable videographers, engineers and sound mixers are all important and expensive. It’s much more doable now days to try and do it without a label, but unless you have a charitable investor or someone really financially savvy, it does limit how quickly you can grow to an extent. Example: thrown. That being said, I think a new genre of band management will be coming out for established bands with lower overall costs. Mainly because they’re already setup and have their own contacts and recognition. It would take a lot more work to do it themselves while also creating music and instead they can hire out for that side of things at a lower cost and focus on the music. These established bands could also do a number of things to grow their “cash” stash and cover their own upfront costs and reap more of the rewards from their incredible life devoted art.
Great live show seen them twice cabt wait to see them again soon.
Record labels never kept up with the technology or development of a way to make money off streaming. Once music went digital compared to a physical product they failed to assimilate
I remember seeing them live with my chemical romance back in 2003 not knowing any of them!! I am still here l!! What’s that say
Your band hasn't truly made it unless it's been featured in fortnite.
lol true
Lol ridiculous
Well,actually,that would be kinda…interesting to say the least but I don’t play Fortnite,I played it once or twice years ago and couldn’t figure out how to do all the climbing or constructing steps and stuff and haven’t tried it since 🤷♂️
Well I guess at this point that's what It means
Absolutely, utterly Redonkulous
Snow Tha Product said it herself, artists are a product to sell, they dont care about the creativity, time, and mental side of it.
"They want 30 tracks and they will pick out what they (the label) singles they like."
She's not a metal artist but she's independent
Matt definitely knows the tricks of the trade, goes much deeper than a tiktok video. The industry is synyster and greedy!
And against those Synyster industries, we need Vengeance!!💀
@@diptamoikakati1806 Maybe what these corporations need is Christ in their lives? 😇
@@swegmeister96 well they need morality not religion!
You don't need to have record labels anymore.
Opportunities for the already big bands.
Intelligent people are a nightmare for record labels because record labels, chickenhawk and recruit the most dreamy role players and players willing to cheat
Does anyone know if they’ll be recorded at download?
M Shadows talks about what we already know
big facts! a lot of people don't know this stuff, though. especially here in the rock community. i'm 40 but i have stayed tech savy and on top of all the stuff going on currently in the music biz and i just have nothing but respect for these guys, showing older folks that record deals are generally a scam for artists. we have no need for record lables, anymore.
What's with all of the hate comments on the band? LOL all he did was state that a single viral moment on tiktok is not going to sell your band, and also that that's not how they want to fully promote themselves, and you have assets in the comments making stupid comments defending labels lol? There are a lot of shady labels and has been for a long time. If that's all labels can provide to you it's a waste of time money and energy. So I don't know why people are tracking the band because of that lol. And if you don't like the newest album, that's an opinion lots of people liked it, lots of people hated it, you're not the bile and all..
A few months before Dead By Daylight did a Collab with Slipknot, they had also did a collab with, Iron Maiden and they even came out with band shirts between the two 😫🤘🔥
I truly believe that it's possible they released LIBAD as a spoof towards warner bros because they inevitably had to release it for warner bros
I do have to say this though even though it looks like a label is independent..... Well might not be the fact. Silent partners can invest and even though they supposedly have nothing to do with the day to day biz ....well if your silent investor like Warner Entertainment did i think with Maverick? Madonnas label she "started"???? ......and silent investors do not have to be legally publicly named... Think small independent label and the investor threatens to pull out funding then you still have labels running the show just in the background. Quietly ....that seems shady to me. I researched it a bit so maybe im wrong. I was feeling excited that the greedy labels ship was going down....its not it just appears to be.
Speaking of the deathbats club, I tried getting into it, and the cost for a single deathbat NFT is the Etherium equivalent of $250 USD, and it was not clear what that actually got you. Am I missing something, or is just that expenisve, and you do get cool perks?
A7X IN BLACK OPS 6 PLEASE!!!!
Record labels are being left in the past and are trying to desperately hold on because of the money thats in it for them
OC peeps are more Based than alot of others in Cali. Kudos to Matt
I thought Google was gonna do all his press exclusively...
If they do sign with someone else hopefully they can do better than a viral moment.
The labels are all broke. You dont need a label these days. Be ur own brand/business
I love how people just confidently state stuff without any knowledge whatsoever lmao. Universal, for example, made over 11 billion € in revenue and had an EBIT of over 2 billion last year. Seems pretty far from "broke" to me...
@@Christopher-md7tf that universal music group, they are a conglomerate. I spent 20 years in the music business I know what the f*** I'm talking about
@@isaacshaver6218 You very obviously don't. Yes, they are a conglomerate, but if all the labels that make up this conglomerate didn't make any money, then the conglomerate wouldn't be doing those numbers above, now would they?
@@Christopher-md7tf its not just a music conglomerate and if you Google it they've been selling off most of their publishing and the music divisions they've been dissolving
@@Christopher-md7tf and while you're speaking of this gigantic corporate entity. Anybody with an MP3 player who hasn't bought a CD in the last 25 f****** years would know that that's probably a good indicator that the music industry is down or the fact that labels are going out of business left & right.. why do you think they invented the 360° deal... because they selling product?
Haven’t played DBD in years, did not know Slipknot make an appearance! Must go back and have a look 😅
I dont know if you can get it anymore, it was only a weeklong event :/ i missed out on it too
@@dragonfire656you can! It’s in the store Slipknot collection.
own your master recordings, heck with a label
The real question is how lazy/dumb/naive are all these other artists that they never even look into the details of the deals they sign into for years on end?
Just ask Tom!
You do need record labels! You don't need bad labels like relapse records or Victory records!SMFH😠
You ain’t poppin off as a band if you ain’t got a funko pop
A7x goes Indie
really excited to see the most rich and famous bands experience new ways to become more rich and famous lol
Bro thought NFTs was gonna stick lol
He didn't really breakdown anything. Just mention one thing that Shadows said from a different interview
Welllllllllllllllll
Ive never been this early 😂
Why does he look 20 years younger than he did 20 years ago? Lol
Try being a groupie and they keep flipping the script on people. That's always real fun times too.
Saying a label's ideas aren't great after releasing an album as bad as LIBAD is rich. And I say that as someone whose fave band for 20 years has been A7X.
What exactly was bad about? Exactly.
Which parts of the songs are bad?
I'm curious
Thanks you hit the bullseye every thing on it was the sound of taco bell attacking the toilet at 4:45 am with a hangover
@@jeffreymoscardelli8428 How exactly? Give me details please. Whixh parts of the songs? How? The lyrics? The composition? The tones? Themusic theory behind it? The concept? The production? Mixing?
Elaborate as to why you think is garbage, give details, think and explain your reasons. I am really curious.
Please provide examples of each song on the album where you disliked it and why
@@w122ArD it's all over produce by computer and had very little strip down rock/metal sound of you look at bat country to hail to the king they very well progress a band the last album sounds like they got lazy and used lifted sound off a computer
A7x needs guidance from nickelback
First! Lol
1st
first 🤓
Bro, you got a booger in the left nostril
Geez man, right when I think he’s about to cut to an interview with M Shadows…. ANNNNDDDD another thing…. Frustrating bro
👃🏼
It depends on what deal you have
Most of these artists go along to get ahead & don't rock the boat b/c they understand what these labels can do to them. Hollywood & the record industry have been an arm of the CIA for decades.
Avenged sevenfold is a hit and miss band for me they are fine to listen but still dont get the hype of them they to me too much a try hard band like they want to be a poormans metallica or poormans guns n roses they sold out big time there are somgs i like but theres ones just got too old or sounded stupid or corny so im nutral with avenged sevenfold and their albums🤷
L take
How do you think they sold out? It's the music BIZ not a jam session. My gen also talked crap about Metallica being sale outs ect..... If you think about it Avenged is doing things their way and making sure the fans are the ones they take care of. They really do go the extra to do so while maintaining the business part. Just my opinion though. To each his own. I hated the new album completely but gave it several listens. Once I realized they really were changing things up a bit so that they weren't putting the same ol same ol out it started to grow on me. I still hate We love you but if you listen to it I think it's supposed to be just that. Not liked bc the lyrics are talking about the vile world around us. The end of that song is brilliant though I immediately in my mind could see a train. Steam locomotive. Without that invention the industrial revolution wouldn't have taken place. It's what moved the goods. ....ok sorry I'm done just my opinion
listen to there newest album life is but a dream then you will see there talent
The issue is someone gave them a record deal in the first place.
They’re one of the most successful bands to date, gtfo
Stop being a hater work on yourself
@@thecodmentator76 Coldplay and Maron 5 are even more successful, so by your logic they're better.
@@NPK476 bro everyone has forgotten about maroon 5 and Coldplay
@@thecodmentator76 Except Coldplay's stadium tour this summer. 🤣So you care about music that's popular.....Makes sense why you be so defensive over a top 40 radio rock band like Avenged 7 fold. Don't get me wrong, I think A7F is a great stepping stone and starter band, they get kids interested in real metal.