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@@thomaschilds1703 he misses when the f14 was the most broken plane in the game as you could just sit at the back of the map spamming missiles and no one would be able to come close without dying
Realistic radar. If the F-14 was added to be just like irl, it would make most fighters unplayable. Iran-Iraq war shows just how dominant it would be against nearly every fighter in the BR range.
Well, it would struggle against a Mig-29 with the R-27ER... But due to tactics, and how the tomcat was used, nothing stands a chance really... Unless in a purre 1v1 scenario :)
That's not realistic, the F-14 does not show every single target on HUD, the radar still tracks multiple target, you just have to look at the radar screen
Imagine those massive dog fights that Israel had to fight in with 100+ aircraft, us not being able to handle a 20-30 airplane lobby's dismal compared to actual aces
My good sir those are AI. If you haven't been playing long enough to know that you need to stop commenting on what the the F-14 should/shouldn't be facing.
It still is but you need complex skills to now play you need to know how to notch missiles and bring chaff and flairs and you could easily outplay most other people
It is accurate tho in TWS the f-14 can order targets and fire 6 missiles and guide them independently and that was available in all versions and ontop of that the radar could track like 30 targets or something
The TWS mode could lock up to 4-6 targets at the same time but only if they were within like a 20 degree azimuth. Targets in TWS wouldn’t pop up on your hud either, unlike in game. TWS, like any other radar mode, would only show targets on the radar display.
shit that this guy doesn't realize is Soviet, & Chinese tech tree literally is the most mediocre tech tree in the game with few quirks which u only can get later on after grinding the most "average" perfomance vehicles in the game. the easiest tech tree to play is literally US tech tree US mains are just too selfish to realize, or too selfish to try the other guy's boots, then gets upset when they got outwitted in a match.
Flying the f-14 in dcs and other sims shows this is stunningly realistic. The RIO just needs 2 elbars on because you spawn 30nm out and its just an instant TWS PD lock. Plus the radar can track upwards of 10 targets at once its completely obvious why they removed it. If the AIM-120c and Meteor missile were added it may be reverted but not likely
The MIG-29SMT is accurate its supposed to be worse than the MIG-29A at dogfighting because it uses the same engines but in a much heavier airframe, but you do become more capable in Air to air and air to ground.
Ahh the gold old days when I unlocked the Su-22 as my first jet and I had to go against modern military aircraft with R-60s and 2 flare shots, what a time.
Youre comparing an F-14 from the 1970s to a tunguska from 1984. A closer comparison would be an F/A-18 and a tunguska, but the F/A-18 had harms so its a bit less fun for the tunguska
@@PyroBlonde7777 its not the same as with the former toptiers like f2 sabre and 15 bis and hunter. afterburners changed alot and missiles even more. and oldschool tanks like kingtiger and is3 dont work anymore because of british dart bias, heatfs and dartfs.
@@wtnator2131 Okay but Top Tier is always evolving so its kinda irrelevant. If you want to dog fight you can still jump in 6.7-7.7 jets withouth any issues. I recently played a lot of mig15/17 and it was very playable.
That's how TWS is supposed to work. IRL it can track 12 targets at once, and launch 6 missiles at 6 different targets simultaneously. Gaijin fucked it over.
Just to clarify, nothing changed, only the interface did. Now all targets doesn't magically appear on the hud, you actually have to look at the radar screen.
Im so glad they changed it. If anything it was a buff, TWS still does the same thing, except without cluttering your entire screen with garbage. Made TWS unusable when AI planes were around, now at least I can quickly switch between targets to get the same effect if I ever so need it.
Bro i can't believe that i started playing war thunder two years ago, i remember i started playing like somewhere between the F-14 update and the one before it (i forgot what was it :>), i didn't know its been soo much time, and now i can't leave the snail, just like gambling.
The problem is, is that its usually augmented by the naval strike groups with their more powerful radars and fed into the plane. So ya nerfed of its the the plane radar
This would be impossible because the f14 does not have the TWS capabilities that are. That powerful TWS is track while scan meaning it can track multiple contacts at once, this system is on f18 f16 f35 and most likely the f 22 because the mfd or ddi is classified. Older planes do not have this capability advanced enough to track this many contacts
more like the days when if you weren't america 11.3 was unplayable imo the best top tier balanced update was winds of change, and apex predators would be right after but the F-16 is still very nerfed and the F-14 is still 11.3 making it have no limit on quantity of players per match whatsoever oh yea and sweden is pretty mid rn, but that's fair enoigh if they give ir the JAS-39A when they add the F-15
Gaejin cannot comprehend that American aircraft can identify target and intercepted multiple aircraft all at once, when they’re Russian aircraft can barely get off the ground and not have a catastrophic malfunction, and their plane crashes into the nearest apartment complex
I remeber when the Mig-15bis, Mig-17 and Sabres were the Top Dogs and when the Hunter was Buffet everyone complained about it for it being unfair and whoops F-100 and Mig-19 got added get fucked former 9.0 TopTier
remember what they took from us xd Situational awareness: the plane... Datalink with these types of systems should also show targets that friendlies see! 😂
Back in my day the F-14... 👴🏻
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LET THE SOUTH RISE AGAIN!
@@VeryPatrioticAmerican blacks must take over south and civilise those knucleheqds
@@VeryPatrioticAmerican what hurts?
@@Klonnno my elbow
My brother in Christ that was a few months ago
I haven’t got to jets yet can u explain the difference between what happened and changed
@@thomaschilds1703 he misses when the f14 was the most broken plane in the game as you could just sit at the back of the map spamming missiles and no one would be able to come close without dying
@@jamislife5406 that is more realistic
@@FlatDrifting265 and war thunder isn't DCS. It doesn't need to be realistic
@@sofiawaqasi5947 yea but taking away one of the best parts of the f14 isn’t okay
Bruh, good old times were before Tomcat
Boi don't even, f86 was king in the good old days
@@Sammich_boy yeah... and when the B-17 could fly without tail xD
@@Sammich_boy expicialy german 20mm sabre
@@smc-susan ah the old Cl-13 was the best
mig-sabre says are and always will be unmatched
Realistic radar. If the F-14 was added to be just like irl, it would make most fighters unplayable. Iran-Iraq war shows just how dominant it would be against nearly every fighter in the BR range.
Exactly. Real life is not fair
Well, it would struggle against a Mig-29 with the R-27ER... But due to tactics, and how the tomcat was used, nothing stands a chance really... Unless in a purre 1v1 scenario :)
That's not realistic, the F-14 does not show every single target on HUD, the radar still tracks multiple target, you just have to look at the radar screen
@@Captain_Coleslaw WT needs more maps with big mountains and hills like dcs.
@@squidpantherMight I interest you in signing the Geneva BR convention?
That radar gave me ace combat vibes
Fr
Imagine those massive dog fights that Israel had to fight in with 100+ aircraft, us not being able to handle a 20-30 airplane lobby's dismal compared to actual aces
@@epapa737 no shit we aren’t aces 😂
Yes i was also wondering why a radar that can track multiple targets can only track one
Balance
So we can have a more advanced craft later than can :p
just as like the mig 29 missile that clapped everything on top tier then got changed
U can still shoot phoenix at multiple targets
it is tracking multiple targets in the current implimentation of TWS mode, it was bugged and painting the targets it could see
Warthunder is slowly becoming an ACE COMBAT game
Naval combat tho
I wouldn’t really compare it to ac7 because
@@Apollowan he didn’t tho? You 🤡
Then play prop/subonics then
Sadly yes. But we will still enjoy prop dogfights
I remember back when mig15’s and Sabres were the scariest things in the sky
I started playing later and that's a big bummer. They need to add a guns only game mode asap!
@@sjamwalait’s called anything below rank 6 lol.
@@Viper31300 yeah that’s fine and all, but it would be nice to fly the rank 7,8 aircraft with guns only.
“Back in the day” referring to Late 2022 is an insult to actual classic WT players
Hunter vs f-14 seems balanced
My good sir those are AI. If you haven't been playing long enough to know that you need to stop commenting on what the the F-14 should/shouldn't be facing.
@@kennybewley4420 it has a username its not ai
@@johndoe9575 My brother in Christ look at the names. They're generic first names with proper spelling, which is AI.
@@johndoe9575it’s a custom battle with AI
@@johndoe9575 They are AI
I remember the good old days.... when high rank air battles were playable and quite fun
İt was enjoyable?!?!!??
@@BekKOWFyeah actually when the top br was early migs and sabres
@@puzanfish7705 ya, I got to my mig 15 on Germany and quit. It's actually unplayable
It still is but you need complex skills to now play you need to know how to notch missiles and bring chaff and flairs and you could easily outplay most other people
@@factsforlife0O0 I do all that and still die to mig29s in my poor f4E
It is accurate tho in TWS the f-14 can order targets and fire 6 missiles and guide them independently and that was available in all versions and ontop of that the radar could track like 30 targets or something
The TWS mode could lock up to 4-6 targets at the same time but only if they were within like a 20 degree azimuth. Targets in TWS wouldn’t pop up on your hud either, unlike in game. TWS, like any other radar mode, would only show targets on the radar display.
Just imagine how an actual real world modern 5th gen AESA radar is. Its fucking insane.
Mig19 and G.91 💀 Thank god for br compression nowadays
Top tier player explaining how point and click gameplay is fun
The terrors the f14 would cause my new top tier ah kid in my F-16A with flares not researched😢😢😢
Looked like a alien radar
And work 360 snipe
When I heard that bass, I immediately thought of AC7
The video: 👌🗿
the song: "Police I swear to god, not simping for a child"
That's not thryrics
@@joeysmith7296 I know but it sounds like it
@@Groovelicious. nuh uh
@@joeysmith7296 dam, my bad
Gaijin when any other country besides Russia and china become too op:
*wait that’s not supposed to happen*
When was China op?
Oh average US main who is fine with f14 spam
shit that this guy doesn't realize is Soviet, & Chinese tech tree literally is the most mediocre tech tree in the game with few quirks which u only can get later on after grinding the most "average" perfomance vehicles in the game.
the easiest tech tree to play is literally US tech tree
US mains are just too selfish to realize, or too selfish to try the other guy's boots, then gets upset when they got outwitted in a match.
@@raphaelambrosiuscosteau6685 nope I’m Germany 😭
@@black_thunder2159 clearly u haven’t played a single top tier ground RB as us before
Bruh good old times where when early jets were top tier.
Flying the f-14 in dcs and other sims shows this is stunningly realistic. The RIO just needs 2 elbars on because you spawn 30nm out and its just an instant TWS PD lock. Plus the radar can track upwards of 10 targets at once its completely obvious why they removed it. If the AIM-120c and Meteor missile were added it may be reverted but not likely
You know a match will be fun when a tomcat launches it’s entire space program at you
My bro got the Infinity TWS mode
Back in my days I used to get destroyed by f14s but now I still do
The Belgian f16 has now this crazy radar feature/glitch
The MIG-29SMT is accurate its supposed to be worse than the MIG-29A at dogfighting because it uses the same engines but in a much heavier airframe, but you do become more capable in Air to air and air to ground.
Nah bro good old days was when there were no missles and matches were actually where you needed skill to win
Max br needs to be 18.0 and gaijin can have a shush knuckle
Ahh the gold old days when I unlocked the Su-22 as my first jet and I had to go against modern military aircraft with R-60s and 2 flare shots, what a time.
Tunguska below:🤩
Youre comparing an F-14 from the 1970s to a tunguska from 1984.
A closer comparison would be an F/A-18 and a tunguska, but the F/A-18 had harms so its a bit less fun for the tunguska
@@FishbedMyBeloved man he is talking in the game not irl
@@OldinaryChimera this is air rb, there are no tunguskas
I remember the Good ol days.
When Dog fighting was a skill
And Armor meant something
True og times. Miss them alot.
Yes, because WWII planes no longer exist in Warthunder 🙄
@@PyroBlonde7777 its not the same as with the former toptiers like f2 sabre and 15 bis and hunter. afterburners changed alot and missiles even more. and oldschool tanks like kingtiger and is3 dont work anymore because of british dart bias, heatfs and dartfs.
@@wtnator2131 Okay but Top Tier is always evolving so its kinda irrelevant. If you want to dog fight you can still jump in 6.7-7.7 jets withouth any issues. I recently played a lot of mig15/17 and it was very playable.
@@PyroBlonde7777 You are absolutely right, it is constantly evolving. Into a point and click shooter that isn't fun
That's how TWS is supposed to work. IRL it can track 12 targets at once, and launch 6 missiles at 6 different targets simultaneously. Gaijin fucked it over.
Just to clarify, nothing changed, only the interface did. Now all targets doesn't magically appear on the hud, you actually have to look at the radar screen.
I thought you were talking about hunters vs migs not f-14 a few months ago, and its still good if not meta
Good old days is when the matchmaking full of a Phantom's and Mig's that they dont use all aspect missile + no pulse doppler rDar
“ Police I swear to god, not simping for a child”
Back when the harrier was added was when the good old days stopped
Im so glad they changed it. If anything it was a buff, TWS still does the same thing, except without cluttering your entire screen with garbage. Made TWS unusable when AI planes were around, now at least I can quickly switch between targets to get the same effect if I ever so need it.
Bro i can't believe that i started playing war thunder two years ago, i remember i started playing like somewhere between the F-14 update and the one before it (i forgot what was it :>), i didn't know its been soo much time, and now i can't leave the snail, just like gambling.
The problem is, is that its usually augmented by the naval strike groups with their more powerful radars and fed into the plane. So ya nerfed of its the the plane radar
Dude, that was like not even a year ago. The good old days were before the F-14.
I mean it's almost more accurate because it acts like a search while scan
I remember when I first got the f5c and I had to regularly go against it like a month or two after it came out
The real good old days was when it was migs and sabres and no mudsuckers
This would be impossible because the f14 does not have the TWS capabilities that are. That powerful TWS is track while scan meaning it can track multiple contacts at once, this system is on f18 f16 f35 and most likely the f 22 because the mfd or ddi is classified. Older planes do not have this capability advanced enough to track this many contacts
Been a year, more nerfs, more fun tho.
No the good old days where when you couldnt get killed from a plane 60km away
When the F4 Phantom didnt locked you from the edge of the map
Bro got that project wingman missile barrage 💀💀💀
I remember the good oll days, grinding air ab with biplanes
Why did they remove it exactly? I get that you can see everyone but isn't that more realistic?
Its just not how it works irl
@@arandomperson_e oh OK thanks for telling me👍👍
The old days wtf I remember when tanks weren't even in the game...
Not me expecting it to cut to F-86 F-2 gameplay
They gotta add tomcats with hawks 😭 shit would be nutty
me still in biplanes: yes i understand that "no i don't"
:me in war thunder locking in so i can only get shot and crash into the floor
Ngl the f14 radar is like you have hacks on but it's just the radar lol.
more like the days when if you weren't america 11.3 was unplayable
imo the best top tier balanced update was winds of change, and apex predators would be right after but the F-16 is still very nerfed and the F-14 is still 11.3 making it have no limit on quantity of players per match whatsoever
oh yea and sweden is pretty mid rn, but that's fair enoigh if they give ir the JAS-39A when they add the F-15
"policemen swear to god,I'm simping for a child"
I remember the good ol days, before the f16s and migs ruled the skys
I still remember when the Leopard 1 and me262 were top tier
"police istg, not simping for child"
This thing could lock into 6 enemies at once. War thunder hello?!
Police I swear to god not simping for a child
That's what look like before FOX3 💀
My absolute, definite. Favorite plane of all time. Just look at it. Best plane ever
The good old days in wt were before missiles and jets.
Waiting till they make the F-22 while it can track, i think 20-30 targets at a time
Lore accurate f14
Dude, I can't play talk to your aircraft without getting sniped from across the map. It's aggravating
Good old days when the F-86 and mig were top tier
I had so much fun back when the radar was like this I also earned shit ton of money now I have both f-16s and I have the rest of the tree
Gaejin cannot comprehend that American aircraft can identify target and intercepted multiple aircraft all at once, when they’re Russian aircraft can barely get off the ground and not have a catastrophic malfunction, and their plane crashes into the nearest apartment complex
Literally wallhacks lol
the good al days were when the f86 f-2 was at the top
Good old days, hmmmm. The good old days were mig15 vs sabre.
Ohhh so that’s why I got killed from across the map. I got f14 the day after the F16 and mig29 came out and by then the f14 was nerfed 😭
Officer it's this one
Yea the good old days where when skills mattered and it wasn't point and click and I get an easy kill with a missile
Looks like he’s flying in a decepticon
that’s how it should be
If they’re going for realism
It's still the same, it's just not displayed in 3rd person anymore
@@TheNicestPighow much the jet cost rn?
is it worth to buy it?
I'm newbie
@@RobertoDeEvan68 you can't buy F-14, you have to grind it.
@@TheNicestPig how long?
Yep amazing aircraft which am going to own soon in war thunder can’t wait 😁
the power of america
Bro used the scouter from dbz 💀💀
Once I gather enough motivation to grind another 5 years to get it, then I can relate 😂
Bruh was a coordinator from gundam SEED 🤣
The good ol days were war thunder legacy
It had that feature for like a day
I used to play war thunder when they promised not to go passed the cold war era tech
Hey old comment got the f14a and it needs it's old radar
Police I swear to god not sleeping for an gun.
Bros playin ace combat with that range
Man the TWS ahaha
The Nerfed-14
The teamkills...
I remeber when the Mig-15bis, Mig-17 and Sabres were the Top Dogs and when the Hunter was Buffet everyone complained about it for it being unfair and whoops F-100 and Mig-19 got added get fucked former 9.0 TopTier
I miss this radar style xD
Those are the good old days.
God damn my guy so many pings
remember what they took from us xd
Situational awareness: the plane...
Datalink with these types of systems should also show targets that friendlies see! 😂