UPDATE PART 3 - DIY Indoor Table Top Pre-Composting Bin HOW TO MAKE
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2023
- Hello! Welcome!
This video is Part 3 of the indoor table top pre-composting bin series.
Tonight we do a check in on the bin to see if it’s heating up and make any necessary adds or modifications.
I tell you a few more tips and tricks to make it easier for you to make indoor compost.
I hope you’ll join along - and maybe start your own pre-composting bin!
Please like the video if you do (😊) and consider subscribing as well ❤️
Thanks for watching!
Yours in the dirt,
Jayne
#redwigglers #vermicompost #worms #composting
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Hi Jayne,
I’m so glad I found you! And just in time as well. I just purchased my first Urban Worm Bag and 12 pounds of red wrigglers, which of course have to be fed and kept comfortable to start producing babies and compost. This recipe is just what I was looking for, so thank you for making the time to show us how to do it. I subscribed to your channel of course and hope to learn a lot more from you, apart from having to buy a paper shredder pronto! ;)
Happy composting!
A Dutchie from Hungary.
Hi again Milly! I read your edit before this post - thanks for the heads up on that so I didn’t go on about 12 pounds of red wigglers!
Thanks for the kind words! I’m so happy you and others are finding this series helpful!
Stay tuned for sure as there are modifications to the recipe as we progress and respond to what we see happening in the pre-compost bin. This is a living system after all!
A IRL friend just got a UWB and he’s setting it up. I’m excited to see how he does it and how it works out for him. I don’t know if he’s planning to pre-compost bedding but he did get a large amount of cow manure from my pasture and a cement mixer like I have to fine sift it so he may be planning on trying it 😊.
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! It helps me to keep going, knowing others are finding what I’m doing helpful ❤️
Sweet I have a bin I started 2 months ago and me and the gf love it she has turned to love them more then the cat lol. We are looking at a mammoth for Euros please let me know how you like the bag we are interested
I mix my bedding with my drill which has an auger I use it mostly for drilling holes in the garden for plants.
Hi Theresa! That that work pretty well?? I spent time last night mixing my 3 pre-compost bins. Between it being still 84 degrees out and humidity being about 2000% AND the heat coining off the compost itself, I was a hot sweaty tired mess by the end. Happy I got it done and the pre-compost is look fabulous, but man, it’s a work out! Others have mentioned using the cement mixer but I’d have to haul the stuff in and out and I’m not at all convinced it’d be less work in the end. And probably a bigger mess than what I normally make!
The auger sounds like something for me to explore 👍
Jayne you are very good at making videos voice & content.
Thank you Larry for your kind words 🤗❤️❤️. I appreciate the feedback!
I want to try using landscaping fabric as a breathable barrier instead of a screen.
Hi Mark! I think that would work fine. As long as it is indeed air permeable it’ll be ok. The idea is to keep heat and moisture in and bugs out. 👍🪱🪱
You go girl!!! Looks amazing!
~ Sandra
Hi Everyone! If you’re looking for more worm videos check out Sandra’s RUclips channel @NanasWorms. It’s great!
@@RockinWorms Thanks Jayne!! 🪱🪱🪱
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@@hannahshean8815 sorry?
At this stage now so off into the bin I go
Had to take a lot out so I could get to all of the bottom and middle and add more moisture.
Now when we made it we made it wet before I added the coffee and made sure there was no standing water but was very wet…. But that was Thursday and Friday it was hot to feel but today was cold. So gave it a good mix and more moisture and that and then added it all back in. Hoping now it’s ok and will be good.
When should I be checking it again for heat? In 24hrs?
Very different style bin.
Hi Larry! Yes, this is a mud pan that I already had. I have a few of them. I use it for mixing up the pre-compost ingredients as it’s far easier on me than trying to mix in the big totes.
I also use a mud pan inside to mix up the basic bedding (pre-compost that’s been thru the heating and cooling cycle(s)) and sifted cow manure. They tend to be too long to sit comfortably on my self units. 🪱❤️
I'm eyeing up my bedroom curtains to use the voile part as screening 😂
🤣! How about cheese cloth instead? Or mosquito netting? The weave is much finer but air clearly can pass thru those materials. Mosquito netting would probably hold up better/longer. I bought my daughter a princess canopy thing we hung over her bed for years to be princess-y but also keep the skeeters away as she was very susceptible to them. Maybe check those ideas out before you cut up the curtains!
You know what I keep thinking of? The Carol Burnett show spoof on Gone With The Wind where she used the velvet drapes for the dress. Hilarious sketch! Showing my age 😂
@@RockinWorms yeah mosquito netting isn't that common round here but I could definitely look in the local big box outdoor shop for it, that's where i got my worms from too. My curtains need replacing anyway and the price is right! 😂
@@eleanoraddy4683 In this case the curtains are a fantastic choice! If they are made from natural materials they may not last long as the bacteria will eat them. Just be prepared for that. The screening and shred get damp as well (the microbes respirate, giving off moisture just like we do) and that’ll speed up the breakdown of some materials as well.
So cool! I have a question about your slurry that you're adding into the tabletop composting system. Do you find that you are able to save that liquid and keep it from going anaerobic, say, over the course of a week? I can't seem to keep molasses water or even a BTI solution from getting stinky for more than a couple of days, so I wonder if the slurry is equally prone to going sour. Do you just use it quickly, or what's your process there?
Hi again! The vegetable slurry - such a better phrase! - keeps in my fridge for a few weeks without going bad. Leftover canned veggies from dinner keep in the fridge for over a week. This slurry isn’t much different. So I haven’t had any anaerobic issues with it… yet.
Molasses and honey when mixed into water go bad fast. I don’t know why but they sure do. I wouldn’t add anything in other than the veggies and water to extend its shelf life as long as possible/needed.
I find it interesting that you keep all your vegie liquids to add to your pre composting to help the bacteria have something to munch on. I think you once mentioned you had cows? Im thinking of trying the vegie slurry for my pre compost, except instead of using vegie liquids, what about using some animal manure? I have horses, and have all the manure I could possibly want to use. Wouldnt that also add great bacteria to the mix?
I do keep and store in used jugs almost all of my veggie liquids from any and all sources plus pasta and rice waters. This liquid is full of nutrients! Why throw it away??
I do have cows (see how cute they are here on a 44 second short: COW-mergency Solved! Newest Castings Crew ❤️ #redwigglers #vermicompost #farmlife #babycow
ruclips.net/user/shortsu2t5MGqEf7A?feature=share). I have chickens too so have that hot manure as well.
I have not added any manures into my pre-compost table top/tote mixtures. Biggest reason is that I want to show how anyone can make pre-compost for their worm bins and I’d hazard to say that most people don’t have ready access to manures while they do to coffee grounds 😊
To your question I don’t see what you couldn’t add in horse manure, especially as it’s from your own horses and you know their health and diet and deworming schedule. If you want to table top it or make regular compost piles outside is up to you 👍. The table top method also lets me control critter access which is important to me as it’s coming into my house. But that a different issue than using horse manure 🙄.
You’ll need to play with your ratios to keep the nitrogen balanced and control for smell. I say give it a shot and see what happens! I’d be very interested in your results! 👍🪱❤️
Oh as an add. Horses aren’t super efficient digesters either so you’ll be adding in other foods for both the initial bacteria, the new bacteria that grows as well as the inevitable leftovers that your worms will enjoy when the pre-compost gets to the worm bins ❤️. Just like when I add the sifted (dry) cow manure in to make my basic bedding mix.
Thank Jane. This is such an interesting topic. I do have worms now, but havent done the pre compost for my works. Im going to start a bin tomorrow with all these great ideas. Love your channel!
@@RockinWorms
omg that calf is so adorable!! I have cows across the street from me in a 200 acre field and love watching them. Your cows are beautiful.@@RockinWorms
@@katiem9644 Exgellent! I look forward to you updating us on how it goes 👍🪱❤️
Are all your bins red wigglers, or do you have other species? Sorry for all the questions today!
I love all the questions! Keep them coming! It helps everyone, including me!
I only have red wigglers- esenia species.
I do have mealworms too but they aren’t real worms. They’re insects. And are a fantastic source of so much biological bounty in their own right 👍
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Hi Jenn! Thanks for watching and for your encouragement! Sorry it took so long for me to respond - it slipped past me ☹️.
Can you put weeds in or will the seeds survive?
The pre-compost shouldn’t get hot enough to kill the weed seeds. That happens above 145F.. We should keep the heat in the pre-compost under 133F so the biota the worms love will be abundant.
Katie added grass clippings (which tend to not have seeds) to her pre-compost and that is working well for her. The nitrogen in the green grass gave the heat a nice boost 👍🪱🪱
What I was starting for my bin like this my angel of a kid threw a lot of brown sugar. Should I rid it and start over or just let it run and feed to my worms as planned
Hi again’ I’d mix it in really well and keep a close eye on it for a few days. Be ready to add more carbon and nitrogen if needed. That said, I don’t think it’s going to be a problem. The fruit and veg slurry has natural sugars in it to feed the biota. They’re just getting an early super feed with the brown sugar 😆.
So keep the screening and deep shred top on it all all times you’re not working the bin as the extra sugar can lure in lots of unwanted bugs 😡.
Please post back on how it goes so others can learn too. Mistakes or accidents happen! Having tools or knowledge to deal successfully with them is valuable!
Thanks for watching!!
Can I use fabric and tissue pattern scraps in either the compost or any other bins? Are they greens or browns?
Hi! Yes you can use fabric - all natural fibers are best of course. Cotton, linen, burlap, bamboo items. They all count as browns.
If nylon or polyester thread is used for seams (quite common) then it’ll need to be pulled from the bin at some point.
There’s several types of sewing pattern paper so I can’t say if the type you have is ok. I have used thicker tissue paper - like the kind used in gift giving - and it didn’t break down with water when I tried using it for seed planting use. I haven’t tried it in any worm or compost bins because of that but can’t honestly say if it would be ok as I don’t know what it’s made of and again, there’s probably many different kinds with different ingredients or processes to make it.
Viscose is made from various plants but due to the chemical processing to form fabric, it’s not considered all natural in its end form.
Worms are very good at dealing with toxins in their environment (studies are ongoing about being able to use them for cleanups) and are smart enough to avoid the ones they need to if given the room. So… you could conduct a little experiment by putting a small amount of sewing pattern paper into one corner of your bin and see what happens! 👍😎🪱
@@RockinWorms thank you so much. I have watched many worm videos but yours are the best. I don't know what you do in your other life but you are a great teacher.
@@ms.es.fabulousfirsties4055 Thank you for your kind words 🤗. I try my best, don’t always succeed, but hopefully learn and improve. Honestly I just try to make videos I myself want to watch 🤣. I like to know the why with the how whenever possible. I try to be methodical and not skip over stuff even if it’s ‘small’ because it’s too often the thing that makes me go ‘Wait! What happened there? That’s the part I’m having trouble with 😡’. It can make my videos long though 🙄. But the goal is to be as thorough as I can be and helpful to others making the journey with me 🤗.
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I have a source for all the bananas. would they be good to make the liquid you use?
Hi Louis! Welcome! Bananas make a great vegetable slurry to use to make the table top pre-compost! I’d try to mix in a few other fruit and veg juices from canned items and/or pasta or potato cooking water if you can so you add a variety of vitamins, minerals, etc for the biota to eat. If you can’t then just the banana purée will definitely get you started in the right direction!
I hope you’ll post your progress when you give pre-composting a try 👍❤️🪱
Edit to my previous post: Not 12 but 2 pounds of red wrigglers.
Hi Milly! 🤣. My first thought was OMG, 12 pounds of red wigglers?! That’s commitment!
2 pounds or 12…. How exciting! You need to get started on making your bedding now so it’s ready as soon as possible. It can take several weeks to go thru the heating and cooling cycles, depending on exactly your specific mix of carbon/nitrogen/moisture and the size of the bin you use. The great thing is, you can add this into your bins at any time after the heat cycle is done - it’s not just for breeder bins. Please keep us updated on your new worms!
@@RockinWorms Hi Jayne,
I have already started to soak the cardboard. I have to hand shred it and that’s easier when it’s wet, as you surely know. On top of my wish list is a paper shredder because apart from tired hands it’s very time consuming and my dogs are refusing to help me. ;) All the others ingredients are waiting to be mixed! Until the bedding is finished I wil add fruits/veggies and moist cardboard to the bin. Very excited to start!
@@millyzwezereijn9177 soaking the cardboard first does help but nothing beats a good shredder. I will say that I still get ‘cardboard elbow’ from ripping sheets of cardboard down into strips that’ll fit into the shredder feeder slot.
Those dogs need a stern talking to about helping out around the house!
Here’s an idea that might cost a bit of money but might be worth it to you - and others. Check out using a rotary cutter or electric/battery operated scissors to cut cardboard into much smaller pieces without so much body strain. Gitano @NortheastWorms mentioned using the scissors to make the strips. I just bought a pair for $40 but haven’t tried them yet. I’m getting more cardboard tomorrow. I have a rotary cutter - think pizza cutter - from quilting and the cutting mat (you need the mat too!) but it’s buried in the mess of my sewing room. Frankly I like the idea of the scissors better because I can use them for other things too as well as cut in the evening while watching a movie. Gosh I hope they work out that way! I’ll post back on how it goes.
You’ve shared that you’re in Hungary- I have no idea what’s locally available where you are - but keep your eyes open and think outside the box!
Does that liquid get a little stinky?
Hello again. The veggie slurry can get stinky in the jug but you can’t smell it while it’s in there. Then when you mix it into the shredded cardboard and coffee grounds you can’t smell it either after the first few seconds. What I always smell the most is the coffee grounds. 😳
If you get liquid pooling on the bottom, especially in the corners, of your pre-compost tote then it can get smelly for a minute when you are aerating the mixture and you expose it to the air (your nose). Keep mixing it around, which redistributes the moisture and kills off the anaerobic bacteria and therefore the smell.
I’ve learned to back off on the initially moisture I add into the pre-compost mix when making it. I want it damp but not as heavily wet/moist as I used to go for. Basically if the new mix clumps at all when I squeeze it I now say that’s a good moisturizer level to start with.
Then when the mixture has been cooking for a few days (or longer if it takes me longer to circle back to it!) I then add more moisture. This seems to reduce the occurrence of anaerobic bacteria, lessening the chance of smells developing. I think that since the system is already working it can better absorb and use the added moisture better than when it’s brand new. I don’t know that for a fact but it seems to work that way nonetheless 😊.
Are smells a particular concern for you?
Pls how do you make your juice wich you use. Thx
Hello! Welcome! The veggie slurry, or juice as you call it, comes from a variety of sources. It’s basically whatever I have on hand. It comes from the packing liquid of canned fruits and veggies, saved potato cooking water, saved pasta cooking water (I don’t salt my water but if you do it’s still ok to use), puréed old past human desirability to eat vegetables and fruits from the fridge, the freezer (freezer burned) or ‘fresh’ (that way overripe banana, the half eaten by who knows what critter veg from the garden, etc.
If it’s a fruit or veg or came from one (maybe old/bad orange or apple juice?) it can be puréed if necessary and used as liquid in the composting process. All of these liquids can be mixed together. I start a reused gallon water jug and add to it whatever comes along until it’s full. Then I start a new jug. Sometimes I’m low on things that are already juicy so I purée up the rotting foods and use the already other saved liquid if I have any (or use tap water if that’s what I’ve got) and that makes the thicker slurry. It’s all good!
Between the worms and making compost (plus I have chickens and cows too) nothing that’s food gets thrown out. Nothing. It’s a fantastic feeling ❤️.
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@@RockinWorms yes, thx. I will try pre-compost.
@@wormak.. I’m making black bean soup (but thick like a stew) today. I save the water from rinsing the canned beans. It goes into the jug and will be used when I make the next batch of pre-compost!
I still have one question. If I store it all in sealed bottles, won't there be some kind of fermentation process going on that will make it a pretty smelly liquid? How long can I store it like this? Thank you very much for the advice.
@@wormak.. Sometimes it does ferment - a jug of thick slurry did a small explosion during a video of mine last week. Got me good 🤣🙄😎. The more watery consistency stuff doesn’t seem to ferment or does so at a very slow rate. The thick stuff is more prone to fermentation. I keep the jugs sometimes for several weeks before they get used. If it’s sealed it doesn’t smell up the fridge. And honestly I haven’t smelled it being bad or gross either when I open the jug to pour into the cardboard and coffee ground mixture. I don’t know why it doesn’t smell yucky but I’m glad it doesn’t! I also have to say that I’m not sticking my face into it either. If you’re concerned then go with the watery juices from canned items plus pasta and potato water. Give it a try and see what you think ❤️🪱