People are gonna hate me for this i guess, but chisa is not to blame for class 2 falling into despair and chiaki dying. Chisa knew that she was going to give up her life to save the students and specifically told the students not to go outside. Instead they did anyways, if anything they were warned and yet they came anyways. Junko being as smart as she is, knew those kids were going to come anyways and let them basically throw themselves Into despair. Chisa literally died for the kids just so that they can throw anyways.
Chisa was quite smart and she tried to protect them, she even took a longer time to be mind washed by Mukuro. I personally loved her character so much because of the way she was able to adapt to the other student's personalities in a way to befriend them. Not scared by Peko when she flung her sword, caught off guard, Ibuki and the guitar, casually earning Fuyuhiko's respect, etc. She was extremely smart, and caring and she died to save them because she loved them like her family.
I know I’m years late but your analysis has given me closure to her character development. It actually made me tear up a bit especially at the end. She was still a despair, but there was a glimmer of hope within her and though she was still under the control of brainwashing, somehow she was able to fight through it as minuscule as it may have been.
Ahhh! Thank you so much for making this video! I absolutely love Chisa so much cause she was so kind and has such a motherly aura to her to was sadly corrupted when she turned despair. For the longest time I just wrote happy fanfictions for her since I felt the anime didn’t give her or Chiaki much of a happy ending. This video makes it much better, but I still cried cause I love her so much. Once again thank you for making this video especially since Chisa doesn’t get enough attention these days even though she was the ultimate mom before Tojo. 100/10.
You know, I wonder how much of the edge would have been taken off if there'd been a scene of Chisa, like, suplexing Junko in the afterlife theater. Or, like... meeting up with Munakata in the afterlife in some cheesy far future epilogue. Make a Chisa Alter Ego. Like, throw her a freaking bone.
If the ending of the future arc had been Chisa absolutely destroying Junko with a face punch, that would have been so freaking cathartic. That Junko girl pissed me off so hard, still making fun of our favorite Characters while sitting in the afterlife cinema.
tbh chisa is the character that actually broke me in the entire franchise , especially when you see that she as chiaki died two times : psychologically in the despair arc and physically in the future arc :') legit it's one of the characters that i cant bypass for her circumstances , the girl didn't deserve that fate :').
Very good video, I needed this after watching Danganronpa 3. I'm very glad that she did in fact get her redemption arc (at least somewhat) and that I didn't need to substitute reality with my own imagination.
I think the conclusion is a bit a stretch, but... it's a really nice thought. I've just recently watched DR3 and been obsessing over this whole thing in a very similar manner. I really loved her a lot, and the sheer bleakness of her life and death, with no apparent silver lining of redemption, or at least sowing despair's failure, was basically driving me crazy. So... maybe I'll headcanon this, at least.
theproofreader It's been a while since I made this video, so my thoughts on the matter have evolved a bit- mostly in the sadder direction. But the one thing I think is undeniable is the authenticity in her conversation with Makoto. I cannot see how her behavior in that scene could serve Despair in any way. And I think she did have a couple moments of pause before that, when her students' rehabilitation came up. But anything beyond that has some wishful thinking involved. There just isn't enough evidence to say she was cured. On the other hand, the possibility is not clearly denied either. She dies in the very next scene she's in. I think it's also worth noting that Chisa's planted photo actually resulted in closure for Kyosuke that wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Was that her intent from the beginning? Can't be sure it wasn't, but can't really be sure it was, either, because it definitely fits what a Despair might do. All together it's kind of a Hope/Despair Rorschach test. A prelude to the confusion that is V3.
@@FarWanderer81 I don't think she was cured at all. She definitely was still a despair, but I also think the feelings for her students is what made her partially resistant to the despair video. She did receive a lobotomy after all during her brainwashing, as she was showing signs of resisting against the video, the main effect of a lobotomy is partially separating the frontal lobe, which is dedicated to feeling emotions. I do believe that whenever her students are brought up, the emotions she has for them would partially block the "brainwashing" of the despair video. That's how she was able to feel and more importantly give hope, even while still being a despair.
I enjoyed your video a lot! I just finished watching the anime and for me, it just felt not right to let Chisa die as sb. who is pure evil but more like a victim to Junko. I'm happy to have seen ur thought process because you had very good points there :)
This is....a lot of thought into a lot of little things. So I am impressed. Though, I would argue she doesn't really need "redemption" Certainly, the body of Chisa Yukizome does terrible awful things, but after you see her brainwashing, you have to I think accept that isn't really her. Between the video and the brain damage, I would argue Chisa "died" that day and was just a puppet of Junko from that day forward. But I might just be bothered by the whole affair myself. You do make an argument against it being "brainwashing" at the beginning, but I think Chisa's case is a bit different with the addition of what Mukuro did.
@@FarWanderer81 Perhaps. But while hers was more extreme, other "brainwashed" characters do eventually come out of it, so I think you're right that the "real" Chisa was still underneath there, but the personality shift is so drastic that I can't look at their behavior at most times to be the same person. Then again, the brainwashing part I always thought was kind of the weakest part so I might be pushing agains tthat in general or giving more excuses for her because I'm not sure child murder is ever really "redeemable" if made with a sound mind.
@@valiantparagonvideos2383 Well for me, what makes it so difficult to wrestle with is the ambiguity itself. They are themselves and they are not themselves. Yes, I agree that the brainwashing part of the story was weak. It honestly felt lazy. But still, Chisa's character arc really stuck with me. Haunted me, really. It is a personal belief of mine that nothing is irredeemable. There must always be hope (no Danganronpa reference intended).
@@FarWanderer81 I suppose that depends on your definition of redeemable. Heartless murder of children repeatedly is a pretty big bridge to cross. I honestly can't fathom a person that could do that without being pure evil, and, well, I can't really accept that Chisa was pure evil, for reasons you highlight here not to mention her original personality as well. I agree on the haunting nature, but personally I think it's because they don't provide sufficient justification and so it feels wrong. My solution is to pretend that the brainwashing is essentially a magic spell a la Kain from Final Fantasy IV. She doesn't lose her personality but her motivations and sometimes actions are driven by the "spell". Your solution is to try and say she broke free by the end, but I think both come from the same place, which is a non-acceptance that who she was "in reality" could do what it is revealed she does. And so we try to explain in different ways.
People are gonna hate me for this i guess, but chisa is not to blame for class 2 falling into despair and chiaki dying. Chisa knew that she was going to give up her life to save the students and specifically told the students not to go outside. Instead they did anyways, if anything they were warned and yet they came anyways. Junko being as smart as she is, knew those kids were going to come anyways and let them basically throw themselves Into despair. Chisa literally died for the kids just so that they can throw anyways.
Chisa was quite smart and she tried to protect them, she even took a longer time to be mind washed by Mukuro. I personally loved her character so much because of the way she was able to adapt to the other student's personalities in a way to befriend them. Not scared by Peko when she flung her sword, caught off guard, Ibuki and the guitar, casually earning Fuyuhiko's respect, etc. She was extremely smart, and caring and she died to save them because she loved them like her family.
I know I’m years late but your analysis has given me closure to her character development. It actually made me tear up a bit especially at the end. She was still a despair, but there was a glimmer of hope within her and though she was still under the control of brainwashing, somehow she was able to fight through it as minuscule as it may have been.
Ahhh! Thank you so much for making this video! I absolutely love Chisa so much cause she was so kind and has such a motherly aura to her to was sadly corrupted when she turned despair. For the longest time I just wrote happy fanfictions for her since I felt the anime didn’t give her or Chiaki much of a happy ending. This video makes it much better, but I still cried cause I love her so much. Once again thank you for making this video especially since Chisa doesn’t get enough attention these days even though she was the ultimate mom before Tojo. 100/10.
You are very welcome.
You know, I wonder how much of the edge would have been taken off if there'd been a scene of Chisa, like, suplexing Junko in the afterlife theater. Or, like... meeting up with Munakata in the afterlife in some cheesy far future epilogue. Make a Chisa Alter Ego. Like, throw her a freaking bone.
If the ending of the future arc had been Chisa absolutely destroying Junko with a face punch, that would have been so freaking cathartic. That Junko girl pissed me off so hard, still making fun of our favorite Characters while sitting in the afterlife cinema.
I cry for chisa
A fate worse than death. :(
tbh chisa is the character that actually broke me in the entire franchise , especially when you see that she as chiaki died two times : psychologically in the despair arc and physically in the future arc :') legit it's one of the characters that i cant bypass for her circumstances , the girl didn't deserve that fate :').
Very good video, I needed this after watching Danganronpa 3. I'm very glad that she did in fact get her redemption arc (at least somewhat) and that I didn't need to substitute reality with my own imagination.
I think the conclusion is a bit a stretch, but... it's a really nice thought. I've just recently watched DR3 and been obsessing over this whole thing in a very similar manner. I really loved her a lot, and the sheer bleakness of her life and death, with no apparent silver lining of redemption, or at least sowing despair's failure, was basically driving me crazy. So... maybe I'll headcanon this, at least.
theproofreader It's been a while since I made this video, so my thoughts on the matter have evolved a bit- mostly in the sadder direction.
But the one thing I think is undeniable is the authenticity in her conversation with Makoto. I cannot see how her behavior in that scene could serve Despair in any way.
And I think she did have a couple moments of pause before that, when her students' rehabilitation came up.
But anything beyond that has some wishful thinking involved. There just isn't enough evidence to say she was cured. On the other hand, the possibility is not clearly denied either. She dies in the very next scene she's in.
I think it's also worth noting that Chisa's planted photo actually resulted in closure for Kyosuke that wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Was that her intent from the beginning? Can't be sure it wasn't, but can't really be sure it was, either, because it definitely fits what a Despair might do.
All together it's kind of a Hope/Despair Rorschach test. A prelude to the confusion that is V3.
@@FarWanderer81 I don't think she was cured at all. She definitely was still a despair, but I also think the feelings for her students is what made her partially resistant to the despair video. She did receive a lobotomy after all during her brainwashing, as she was showing signs of resisting against the video, the main effect of a lobotomy is partially separating the frontal lobe, which is dedicated to feeling emotions. I do believe that whenever her students are brought up, the emotions she has for them would partially block the "brainwashing" of the despair video.
That's how she was able to feel and more importantly give hope, even while still being a despair.
As a hardcore superfan of the Danganronpa series, I really appreciate this video. Great work. Thank you for your analyses
This guy is smart
5:06 if you wanna skip this guy's emotional garbage and get strait to the analysis. :)
Hubris lol thanks
I enjoyed your video a lot! I just finished watching the anime and for me, it just felt not right to let Chisa die as sb. who is pure evil but more like a victim to Junko. I'm happy to have seen ur thought process because you had very good points there :)
I'm so confused now because of Danganronpa v3 and this anime? Omg
This is....a lot of thought into a lot of little things. So I am impressed. Though, I would argue she doesn't really need "redemption" Certainly, the body of Chisa Yukizome does terrible awful things, but after you see her brainwashing, you have to I think accept that isn't really her. Between the video and the brain damage, I would argue Chisa "died" that day and was just a puppet of Junko from that day forward. But I might just be bothered by the whole affair myself. You do make an argument against it being "brainwashing" at the beginning, but I think Chisa's case is a bit different with the addition of what Mukuro did.
If Chisa were a completely different person, she wouldn't have had that conversation with Makoto.
@@FarWanderer81 Perhaps. But while hers was more extreme, other "brainwashed" characters do eventually come out of it, so I think you're right that the "real" Chisa was still underneath there, but the personality shift is so drastic that I can't look at their behavior at most times to be the same person. Then again, the brainwashing part I always thought was kind of the weakest part so I might be pushing agains tthat in general or giving more excuses for her because I'm not sure child murder is ever really "redeemable" if made with a sound mind.
@@valiantparagonvideos2383 Well for me, what makes it so difficult to wrestle with is the ambiguity itself. They are themselves and they are not themselves.
Yes, I agree that the brainwashing part of the story was weak. It honestly felt lazy. But still, Chisa's character arc really stuck with me. Haunted me, really.
It is a personal belief of mine that nothing is irredeemable. There must always be hope (no Danganronpa reference intended).
@@FarWanderer81 I suppose that depends on your definition of redeemable. Heartless murder of children repeatedly is a pretty big bridge to cross. I honestly can't fathom a person that could do that without being pure evil, and, well, I can't really accept that Chisa was pure evil, for reasons you highlight here not to mention her original personality as well.
I agree on the haunting nature, but personally I think it's because they don't provide sufficient justification and so it feels wrong. My solution is to pretend that the brainwashing is essentially a magic spell a la Kain from Final Fantasy IV. She doesn't lose her personality but her motivations and sometimes actions are driven by the "spell". Your solution is to try and say she broke free by the end, but I think both come from the same place, which is a non-acceptance that who she was "in reality" could do what it is revealed she does. And so we try to explain in different ways.
@@FarWanderer81 honestly it's the same situation with me , her character arc is just haunting me.
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