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The Advanced Novice's Guide To Starting Strength
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2024
- Starting Strength Coach Grant Broggi explains how to change up your programming for your barbell lifts as you get to the end of the Starting Strength Novice Linear Progression.
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This is such an amazing channel, I watched 2 videos almost randomly and it answered every question I had
I wish we could drop the modifier "novice" from "Novice Linear Progression". There is a stigma attached to the word, and consequently some people won't do it just because they don't see themselves as a 'novice'. Old, young, strong, weak, injured, advanced: if you can progress in a linear fashion -- you should!
you are a novice
@@WiecznieNieNasycony😂😂😂😂
What term would you recommend instead?
A very heartwarming afterschool special sentiment, but the "linear progression" part is more dubious. You could plot a straight line through anything and call it linear. If people wanna Dunning-Kruger themselves into no gains because they can't accept that they're a novice, I guess that's unfortunate
@@humanspecieseradicationmedia Anytime life happens and I can’t train for two weeks, I’m a novice. As to whether I’m stigmatized please ask my wife.
I’m in the group now. Very helpful
If training 3 times a week on the 3 big lifts and progress stops, just drop a day and train twice a week like monday and Thursday.
I like your suggestion. Another option is to alternate squat and deadlift from session to session just as they do with press and bench. But in both cases, we are committing what Mark Rip calls YNDFP 😁😁😁
@farhanhussain_
That sound ideal. In the book 'Brawn' by Stuart McRobert, who was big into progressive overload even with very small weight increases, while using abbreviated programs, promoted something similar.
Monday was BSq, BPr and Row. Thursday was ShPr and deadlifts. Add some 1 or 2 arm exercises for a couple of sets.
When you look at it both days are training your pushing and pulling muscles as well as the lower body.
So really training the whole body twice a week. When u start adding weight to the big exercises, you need all the extra recovery time you can get and reduce and eliminate any exercises that are draining your reserves without any real positive benefits.
@@dansmith9724 I agree 👍
Thanks for the video. It was the exact questions I had. I appreciate it.
Big Grant
20% off 225 is 180.
Good advice, though.
Most people will BS the lift at either of those weights. Mark it zero!
Video is awesome. Thanks jr rip
the book says try 5% off for the light squat for old guys , if its still too hard to recover reduce the reps as far a 3 x 3 before taking wight off. I do 5% off one set of 3 one set of 4 one set of 5. At 70 years old its not being dead tired the next 2 or 3 day is the limiting factor not the weight.
"I'm not stuck unless I stop."
- Steven Furtick
It's weird how folks want to get out of NLP as fast as possible. It's more impressive to hear lifters talk about their commitment to the program, trying anything and everything possible to milk as much as they could out of it.
After my NLP I did HLM and now I’m doing a 4-Day Split…
What do i do if my knees are killing me at 288lbs squat but im still going up by 1lb every workout, everything else is good....im 210lbs 38yo, manual labourer
Yeah, I move furniture and I hate fucking squatting this much. When am I supposed to recover? My lower back is not up to this.
Newer lifter here. If I run starting strength, will I get a gut and a shit attitude like Rip?
Not necessarily but it might help you come off as less of a pussy
Possible as you approach 70, but diet and how many injuries and stupid questions you have addressed between now and then will affect the gut and the attitude.
Only if you are lucky and gifted !
They say a lot of Novice Linear Progression is neurological. Would it make sense to focus on developing the neurological side at the end of the NLP and then seeing if there is more left? What about supplementing specifically for that neurological aspect?
How do you address lifters that keep getting injured?
I would reduce the load and volume on the specific exercises that are causing problems and focus on improving technique and the supporting muscles. Sometimes you have to take two steps back to go one step forward.
is it call " Lifte time intermediate"?
Instead of introducing lighter days for squat and deadlift, I would rather alternate squat and deadlift just like press and bench.
And yes I know, YNDFP😁😁😁😁 but who cares if it works
When do you stop deadlifting every workout
After 2-3 weeks. Then do Chin ups every other workout with the other day alternating between power cleans and deadlifts. This means you will deadlift about 10 days or so apart (same with Power cleans). If you do not feel comfortable doing PCs I think Rows will work well for a new person.
Never is the only correct answer.
@@jamesc4378 I dunno when it gets heavy enough recovery is rough
Recovery hole
Not 100% certain, but I think 80% of 225 = 180, not 200.
that mustache
There are published strength standards for untrained through elite/world record 1RM. Until you put up those numbers for your age and weight class, doesn't matter how much you know or how long you've trained.. still a novice.
In a sense but if you’re lucky the novice program will take you way past and if you’re unlucky then it won’t get you anywhere near close.
That really is not a metric for novice at all. Some people on day one will be way ahead of newb standards and others are going to work to break out of them. The term novice matters a lot because it affects the ability to recover/stimulus need to adapt/tolerance to volume and intensity balance. By those numbers I am considered elite in several categories (all of them by age) and at least advanced in all of them. That just means I am strong. I am an intermediate level lifter though...not advanced. The level you are at determines the type of training you need...not how much you can lift.
So we’re just not going to talk about that mustache?
I'm not sure this mustache is the right move.
Starting Strength is a poorly thought out and overcomplicated program that only works because almost anything works for novices. People way overcomplicate Intermediate and Advanced training as well. "Linear progression" is a statistically meaningless term because you could plot a straight line through anything and call it linear no matter how undulated it is. I've made numerous videos about this stuff but I'm fat so people think that means I don't know what I'm talking about
If you think the program is complicated, then you haven’t done the program and you CERTAINLY haven’t read the blue book. Or you’re just dumb and easily confused.
It is not overly complicated at all. After being a gym rat in my youth and seeing all the stuff around and advised for the past 40 years it is pretty basic and pretty minimalist. IME the Intermediate training is also (TM for example) not complicated at all. Advanced training I can not speak to as I have never needed it (not advanced) and probably never will. I do know a few advanced lifters though, and their programs are a bit more complex...but they have to be as they are at the near limit of their genetic (and often chemical) potential so it takes some coaxing to get a little bit more out of their bodies at that point.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried! It's an extremely basic program, for the reasons you just stated( newbies gain with anything, for a while) but the lifts and programming chosen are the most proven to provide the most effective)
way to go. Ive lifted for years and had fairly decent strength numbers but still started NLP because I'd NEVER done strength work in such a measurable and consistent way.