If the media would take five minutes to pull court documents on the mother and father of this six year custody battle it wouldn’t be really hard to figure out what is going on here. Probably should be questioning the biological father’s family, in my opinion.
Someone in one of groups posted that the OSBI have been asking about a white truck (Ford or Dodge, maybe) and a horse trailer seen that morning. Let the news catch up to that..
She wasn't going to pick up her kids. Her mother-in-law (the kids paternal grandmother) has custody of her 2 kids. She was on her way to a supervised visit with her kids. She was only allowed to see her kids every Saturday and it was supervised.
Dad is in rehab and Mom had supervised visits to see her kids. More than like they both had substance abuse issues. None of them seem to be in a good place to raise their own children.
Not one bit of this story sounds logical, or plausible. All reports and photos are of the two women. show the husbands and anyone else who could be suspect..
That's right. Traditional Nancy Grace-style, guilty-until-proven-innocent justice is how it should be done in America. That's what the Founders meant to say. They just got it backwards.
Mother-in-law & ex husband are culprits. Disgusting. I'm sure the car was driven there from another location and abandoned. They better be staking out the ex and in-laws and putting pressure on and pinging phones.
Why do people always have to put peoples business out there. Who cares what kind of visit it was. My goodness I pray these women are found. I like your theory.
So nice of those volunteers on horseback to help search. God bless them. Why isn't LE using drones to search these vast areas? Have cadaver dogs been used?
very rural, probably low population so they budget for LEO is low meaning not much for resources. they likely don't even have a municipal police force and rely solely on a county sheriff
Yes! We the public need to make a push for a bigger investigation. They could still be alive, somewhere. Doubtful but possible. FBI...need your help in Oklahoma.
They where suppose to meet grandma and her boyfriend at the trading post that was the designated place for Veronica to see the kids at the birthday party. Jillian is not a friend's she was court appointed to supervise the visitation.
This is how the riley strain case got out of control and people have gone with conspiracies' cause of the medias poor reporting. The woman was appointed to supervise, she wasnt just a friend going. Both sides of that family are messy. I feel for the volunteer who was there to supervise, she has nothing to do with this.
Dearest Heavenly God Father, we pray for the safety and well being of these children and that we may help them to heal❤protect them and the grandmother who reported the abuse to begin with ❤
It’s not gonn take a genius to figure out what happened. It’s either the father of the children or he hired help , doesn’t take detective work to figure it out.
IMO the mother and father six year custody battle makes it pretty clear that someone knew the itinerary of the mother and knew the "best" location to put their plan into action. Unfortunately, the other lady was probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I pray they are both found alive.
Do we know if the FBI is involved? Because these women were coming from kansas and just the fact that whatever local police force this took place in is probably not used to dealing with cases like this. They should be getting the FBI involved
@jannapeters8506 we ALL speculate lol. They bring FBI agents on the show to.... speculate. In situations like this especially since they crossed state lines the FBI should be involved. If they aren't dead then they are being held captive and the FBI has way more resources to help solving cases like these. That's not even a speculation really lol. It's kinda what they do. Speculation would be saying that the ex's family hired someone to take this women out and the lady with her was just in the wrong place. That would be speculation lol
Hmmm. We can't confirm this is real but we are going to spread the rumor to generate viewership. Of course if this lady sticks to the facts as she knows them (lack of actual research into the case mainly) she will just be stating her name and no story at this time but 2 women are missing. Read the comment section and you will learn way more than what is told by the reporter.
I'm watching every story, and worrying about what may have happened. I pray for answers soon. Please let the return alive and well to their families.❤ The fact that a "heated custody battle" was mentioned from day one implied that they may have been harmed by someone who would benefit from their absence.
Reminds me of Jared Bridegan and Josh Powell. Nothing gets folks heated like children and finances. So sad for both women and their families. Exceptionally sad for Jillian’s family as she was performing supervising services.
Somebody made sure they never actually made it to that meetup point. Did the grandma or the ex call in that she didn’t show up? Were they actually at that gas station waiting? Wouldn’t they have passed her or her car on the road out in nobody drives thru here land?
Cell phone data may tell us if grandma and her boyfriend were there. Cell phone data will also tell us if there were any attempts to contact the mom to see where she was or if she was coming to see the kids.
@@jgjg3848 possibly, there aren’t many towers out there and signals kinda float on and off. It’s like having a scrambler signal that gives out wonky locations even on a gps. I’ve driven thru but live closer to an actual big city.
@AellaMaud lol 😂 and what in your mind , ? Be the reason on for that ? No longer to see her children whom she’s been fighting for the last 7 years ? For just to be a missing person ?
They're dead end of story. Find the man involved in the custody dispute and send him to the Soviet Union for interrogation and then they'll find out where the women are at
Why have they not brought out dogs? Have they contacted the ex-husband or his mother. Have you talked to the children? How much did they get from the cell phones, even if the receiption was in and out!
The system is garbage. You have to save yourselves and your loved ones. 911 and cops aren't going to save, rescue, find, search.....Civilians, your neighbors, your friends....That's who is out looking for you.
Did he say Texas/Kansas border? Or did I hear him wrong, even though I rewound it 5 times. I must be missing something. God bless everyone searching for these moms.
As much as everyone wants to blame the husband and mother in law and it is quite plausable, lets not forget that Oklahoma is just north of Texas and theres “ new arrivals” all over the area…. Its quite possible it was completely random …
Please stop the rumors of why the mother get supervised visits.The mother is missing and her point court order supervisor.Only thing important right now is finding these two innocent woman.The gossip rumors please stop.Pray they are found alive and families can get justice for what has happened to these two woman
I am for some reason certain that the police have detailed information about every shoe and tire print around that car. If not, they would seem to be incompetent hicks. I have a feeling that the two missing people were not in it when it arrived where it was dumped. Also, I'm afraid that the footprint data is blank because they were wiped out when the guy who drove it there was picked up. Anyway, I believe the police have lots of stuff that it's reasonable for them to keep "secret" until they make some kind of case.
Why haven’t we seen the actual abandoned vehicle so we can see what it looks like inside and outside?Have the feds done ANY scrupulous investigations on the vehicle…analyzing fibers , etc? Are the feds tracking and/or listening in on all the phone calls, texts, etc of the families from both sides that are involved? Could the X supposedly at that rehab facility made ‘arrangements’ prior to the incident or even gotten out without the facility being aware then returned? Could nonleg*ls be involved? Why weren’t tracking dogs brought in to assist immediately especially because this area is actually so close to multiple states? How much trafficking actually has happened in this area? Pig farms in area…some have unscrupulous reputations that precede them…perfect location for ‘disappearing’ of victims.
Off the subject for just a moment, there is a 15 year old boy missing for a week now from a Tulsa Walmart…maybe there’s time to help him… Marshall Jackson
I heard the mom’s new boyfriend was sexually abusing the children, so they were taken away and given to the father. That’s the jest of what I’m getting.
Dumb judge most times they just randomly pick one or the other and judges like to give & take meaning if they take from here they’ll give there .. only 1% of lawyers and judges actually do there job and are not corrupt .. trust me at times judges have a very bad back ground and they still keep there jobs behind that bench Also if there friends more w one attorney or that one attorney donates to them more the case wins to that attorney It’s never about the case no one cares Judges also don’t use the constitution of law they think there god and go by there rules & they make up there owen laws they can make it hard financially to keep appealing , hiring lawyers .. most times a person can’t keep going to court to appeal after appeal to these ignorant judges decision Point is never trust the system They all share the same bottle of wine 🍷 It’s never about the kids they could care less it’s about money 💰 Wish they would look into that judge so we can learn more abut them .. let’s look there back ground , h court history etc as well as the fighting failing attorneys … a women divorces to move on to a safer , happier life the man always wants revenge and most times the revenge parents are there to help $$ .. or there all masons
Strange the last few cases I've seen of missing people they don't seem to be using dogs In fact I haven't seen them using dogs in a very very long time if ever There were escaped convicts that were spotted and they still didn't bring dogs in Riley was missing and they didn't bring dogs in Something's weird that they're not using dogs no more
They use dogs all the time. See Dave Paulides' CanAm Missing 411. These dogs are very expensive, so only large organizations have them. Big cities, etc.
You can say what you want about this country but when the cards are drawn Americans pull together and support one another ❤❤ that makes me so proud of my fellow Americans 😊❤
Here in Greenville SC, two women were shot and killed by the one's ex husband, in the parking lot of his apartment. The one woman went with the mom of the kids to pick them up from him. This and people going missing without a trace is starting to become an epidemic.
It’s a fine line between reporting the facts, being respectful to their loved ones and not alienating any support by revealing why someone else needed to be at the visitation.
This makes more sense now. An on going custody battle. Sounds like the mother probably wasn’t welcome with the family. And the other woman was court appointed. Look very closely at the family. So sad.
Come on people it’s not a lesson in pronunciation….please there are two women missing and these children have been through abuse and still don’t have a mother …hopefully the grandmother is taking good care of them …but now who knows ?
They need to be looking at the father because the other mom was probably just a casual tea of the intended crime. I guarantee you. The father hired somebody to kill her and ended up having to kill the other mom too. Something in my gut tells me that's what happened. And that's sad.
I live near the church in East Texas where the young father & his new wife were leaving a supervised visit with his daughter & were ambushed on the steps of the church as they were leaving by his ex wife & her father. Her mother & brother were involved too. Thank goodness they were stupid & got caught shortly after. They all went to prison.
@@TurkeyCreekGal I've read the ex was released from jail sometime a few days prior to this and was supposed to go into rehab but have also read that the ex was the one who reported to law enforcement that he found the car of the missing two women. Food for thought.
If the media would take five minutes to pull court documents on the mother and father of this six year custody battle it wouldn’t be really hard to figure out what is going on here. Probably should be questioning the biological father’s family, in my opinion.
News media always needs to make everything sensational or emotional at the cost of due diligence :(
I’m convinced the police is talking to the ex husband and his family. The police is not stupid.
Why don't you tell us then. Instead of beating around the bush. Be an adult.
@@MissRed92837is not?
The news report mention the fact of the custody battle.
The minister’s wife wasn’t going for support. She was going as a court appointed supervisor for the other mother to visit her kids.
Exactly. I’ve seen so many reports that they do not have even the smallest facts correct, completely frustrating.
Wow! How unfortunate! Thanks for the info…I didn’t know that.
Hopefully these journalists take note, thanks for the info
Court appointed supervisor? That's sad. So she was caught up in this family drama and didn't know how ugly it would get.
Thanks for this bit of information.
The comment section. Is far more informing than the video
Someone in one of groups posted that the OSBI have been asking about a white truck (Ford or Dodge, maybe) and a horse trailer seen that morning.
Let the news catch up to that..
Really it is
It usually is.
yes, definitely
❓ where is her brother ❓
This reeked of foul play from day one.
Exactly that's what I said!
Yes. Just went downhill from there
Very chilling to be out in the middle of nowhere
Foul play😮
Took a week to figure that out, Sad
This is so sad. It sounds like they were ambushed.
That’s what I think too .
Exactly
Sad how? She let her brother SA her kids.
@@sasha86868 even if what you say is true what about the other woman?
100% and i hate to say this but i feel any signs of life were extinguished
Sounds like they should be questioning the Grandmother who has custody of these children
I'd be shocked if they haven't already. What are they waiting for? It has been 6 days.
I say the husband is guilty of this
She's been arrested.
She wasn't going to pick up her kids. Her mother-in-law (the kids paternal grandmother) has custody of her 2 kids. She was on her way to a supervised visit with her kids. She was only allowed to see her kids every Saturday and it was supervised.
His family is messdedup
That’s not anyone business. We all make mistakes. We need to pray that the moms are safe.
@@audreydaleski1067yes and the mom gets f by the courts looks like ..
@@joansmith6844Or maybe the courts had good reason for supervised visitation, it's usually the dad
Dad is in rehab and Mom had supervised visits to see her kids. More than like they both had substance abuse issues. None of them seem to be in a good place to raise their own children.
Not one bit of this story sounds logical, or plausible. All reports and photos are of the two women. show the husbands and anyone else who could be suspect..
Theres a gag order. It includes not exposing any potential suspects
That's right. Traditional Nancy Grace-style, guilty-until-proven-innocent justice is how it should be done in America. That's what the Founders meant to say. They just got it backwards.
Mother-in-law & ex husband are culprits. Disgusting. I'm sure the car was driven there from another location and abandoned. They better be staking out the ex and in-laws and putting pressure on and pinging phones.
They’re on the case, ma’am.
That's a good theory. They could have been ambushed somewhere else and the car could have been driven there and abandoned.
Why do people always have to put peoples business out there. Who cares what kind of visit it was. My goodness I pray these women are found. I like your theory.
@@tammycaudle8899If people end up missing it is more than likely their business will get out. That is how that usually goes.
@@tammycaudle8899 I hope no one goes looking for you if you ever go missing....you can stay gone 🤷♀️
So nice of those volunteers on horseback to help search. God bless them. Why isn't LE using drones to search these vast areas? Have cadaver dogs been used?
Why is he there and not law enforcement? Are they taking a donut break?
very rural, probably low population so they budget for LEO is low meaning not much for resources. they likely don't even have a municipal police force and rely solely on a county sheriff
@@tylermallory2504 This is true, few resources. I wish more agencies would get involved in the search.
Yes! We the public need to make a push for a bigger investigation. They could still be alive, somewhere. Doubtful but possible.
FBI...need your help in Oklahoma.
@@naturistfredit’s a lady.
They where suppose to meet grandma and her boyfriend at the trading post that was the designated place for Veronica to see the kids at the birthday party. Jillian is not a friend's she was court appointed to supervise the visitation.
This is how the riley strain case got out of control and people have gone with conspiracies' cause of the medias poor reporting. The woman was appointed to supervise, she wasnt just a friend going. Both sides of that family are messy. I feel for the volunteer who was there to supervise, she has nothing to do with this.
No. Common sense he fell in the river drunk
@@kimemerson4608 yes but what i said in my comment is that the media reporting turned it into a conspiracy when all he did was fall in.
@@kimemerson4608, not exactly.
@@gigglestwo2 yes
@@gigglestwo2 followed the whole case. Stumbled out of Luke's Bar headed straight for the river instead of turning left to his room.
Custody battle ? Well, guess who the main suspects should be ??!!
Dad
@@corajones1980....or in this case- Grandma. Since "Dad" is supposedly in a 6 month rehab at the moment 🙄
You
Someone from OF?
Yeah, guess😅
Leland…get your facts straight, or your audience isn’t going to believe anything you say.
Terrible reporting! Wd love to know where the "Texas Kansas border is"!!!!
Heavenly Father, i ask that you bring these two mothers home safe and reveal the truth, i ask this in Jesus Christ name!
amennnnnn. 🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you for the comment . 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Dearest Heavenly God Father, we pray for the safety and well being of these children and that we may help them to heal❤protect them and the grandmother who reported the abuse to begin with ❤
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GOD Bless the volunteers. I pray that these women are found alive.
It’s not gonn take a genius to figure out what happened. It’s either the father of the children or he hired help , doesn’t take detective work to figure it out.
But it will take facts to do anything about it…
Agreed! Father and/or his family benefit from this “disappearance”!
This is horrible. Absolutely an ambush. Someone knew her schedule. It was a scheduled visit. Horrible. Now no mother for the kids.
IMO the mother and father six year custody battle makes it pretty clear that someone knew the itinerary of the mother and knew the "best" location to put their plan into action. Unfortunately, the other lady was probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I pray they are both found alive.
Support? Thought she had to be there cause she needed a DCF approved person.?
Yes, this reporting is ignorant.
The majority of time, it's either the husband or ex-husband that is found when a wife goes missing, especially when there's a custody battle.
Prayers for these two women 🙏🏼 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Amazing volunteers! On horseback is a fantastic way to search. Thank you!
Yes 🎉
Do we know if the FBI is involved? Because these women were coming from kansas and just the fact that whatever local police force this took place in is probably not used to dealing with cases like this. They should be getting the FBI involved
Chill. The OBI is on the case, ma’am.
@sammyday3341 op is correct.
I watch a lot of true crime, the mo is to always bumble along and mishandle evidence before calling fbi. 😂
@sammyday3341 chill? It's a pretty fair and logical question. 🤷♀️
Those who speculate can be really crass.
@jannapeters8506 we ALL speculate lol. They bring FBI agents on the show to.... speculate. In situations like this especially since they crossed state lines the FBI should be involved. If they aren't dead then they are being held captive and the FBI has way more resources to help solving cases like these. That's not even a speculation really lol. It's kinda what they do. Speculation would be saying that the ex's family hired someone to take this women out and the lady with her was just in the wrong place. That would be speculation lol
Hmmm. We can't confirm this is real but we are going to spread the rumor to generate viewership. Of course if this lady sticks to the facts as she knows them (lack of actual research into the case mainly) she will just be stating her name and no story at this time but 2 women are missing. Read the comment section and you will learn way more than what is told by the reporter.
Imagine how this would affect a child.
I'm watching every story, and worrying about what may have happened. I pray for answers soon. Please let the return alive and well to their families.❤ The fact that a "heated custody battle" was mentioned from day one implied that they may have been harmed by someone who would benefit from their absence.
Wonder who?😮
Prayers for all 😢
Shouldn't be too hard for cellphone tracking. The husband found the car
That part of the state is very rural.
Reminds me of Jared Bridegan and Josh Powell. Nothing gets folks heated like children and finances. So sad for both women and their families. Exceptionally sad for Jillian’s family as she was performing supervising services.
Somebody made sure they never actually made it to that meetup point. Did the grandma or the ex call in that she didn’t show up? Were they actually at that gas station waiting? Wouldn’t they have passed her or her car on the road out in nobody drives thru here land?
What gas station?
Excellent points 👍
Cell phone data may tell us if grandma and her boyfriend were there. Cell phone data will also tell us if there were any attempts to contact the mom to see where she was or if she was coming to see the kids.
@@jgjg3848 possibly, there aren’t many towers out there and signals kinda float on and off. It’s like having a scrambler signal that gives out wonky locations even on a gps. I’ve driven thru but live closer to an actual big city.
@AellaMaud lol 😂 and what in your mind , ? Be the reason on for that ? No longer to see her children whom she’s been fighting for the last 7 years ? For just to be a missing person ?
Prayers 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Praying for that these women are found safe 🙏
This is why you always carry a gun
The brother of this sad excuse of a mother needs to spend rest of life in prison ❤
Comment section is more informative than the actual report !
Ex husband probably kidnapped them at gun point then drove the car back to dump it off. Bitter custody battle says it all.
Please GOD protect the children.... I pray this isn't a life policy advantage and a hands down custody award....
Bittersweet… It’s sad to hear foul play may be happening , and beautiful to see complete strangers caring enough to search
Clear to me only 1 family is involved. Hope these women receive justice.
They're dead end of story. Find the man involved in the custody dispute and send him to the Soviet Union for interrogation and then they'll find out where the women are at
Sounds like to me the car was dumped there also just to let the news anchor know Kansas isn't bordered by Texas just so you know
Why have they not brought out dogs? Have they contacted the ex-husband or his mother. Have you talked to the children? How much did they get from the cell phones, even if the receiption was in and out!
The system is garbage. You have to save yourselves and your loved ones. 911 and cops aren't going to save, rescue, find, search.....Civilians, your neighbors, your friends....That's who is out looking for you.
Did he say Texas/Kansas border? Or did I hear him wrong, even though I rewound it 5 times. I must be missing something. God bless everyone searching for these moms.
You weren’t the only one who heard it
He also kept saying "rurhwah" or something instead of "rural". Probably should have picked a different profession
@@blaiseaimee7098lol😂😂
Texas County is what he meant, which is in the Oklahoma panhandle.
He said Kansas Oklahoma border in the county of Texas, if he didn't say that he should have
I thought the older went along because she was a CPS worker
Towns 15 miles apart is close in rural America. Now 60 miles apart is for us a bigger deal.
As much as everyone wants to blame the husband and mother in law and it is quite plausable, lets not forget that Oklahoma is just north of Texas and theres “ new arrivals” all over the area…. Its quite possible it was completely random …
Parents, grandparents need to grow up.
Had with the drama and chaos so many of them cause.
🙏 too sad. I’m hoping they are found and are still alive.
Please stop the rumors of why the mother get supervised visits.The mother is missing and her point court order supervisor.Only thing important right now is finding these two innocent woman.The gossip rumors please stop.Pray they are found alive and families can get justice for what has happened to these two woman
Finally someone talking sense.
Perfect area...isolated rural area no cell service no cameras no passing traffic.....for foul play
Much as I would like to hold up hope I fear this is not going to end well, GOD please protect their children😢❤
Looks like they have been abducted. Unfortunately very distressing and heart breaking. Hope,wish and pray that these women are alive.
I'm from WV which is rural but I've never seen rural like that! Frightening! 😮
Why is it frightening?? I've never been afraid to live here. Most people don't even lock their doors!
Ya , creepy as f too
@@TurkeyCreekGal😂
It’s a bit creepy just driving through there. You feel vulnerable.
@@TurkeyCreekGalthis is a terrible place to admit people don’t lock their doors in the area. 😳😱
Does anyone believe this is anything other than foul play?
Always have men with guns escorting you. Times are too dangerous not to anymore.
Wealthy ranch family got rid of mother of kids....need to get to FBI as crosses multiple states lines
I am for some reason certain that the police have detailed information about every shoe and tire print around that car. If not, they would seem to be incompetent hicks. I have a feeling that the two missing people were not in it when it arrived where it was dumped. Also, I'm afraid that the footprint data is blank because they were wiped out when the guy who drove it there was picked up. Anyway, I believe the police have lots of stuff that it's reasonable for them to keep "secret" until they make some kind of case.
I drove C2C across USA twenty years ago. There are vast areas of nothing in the middle of nowhere . . . . it's called 'flyover country' for a reason.
Why haven’t we seen the actual abandoned vehicle so we can see what it looks like inside and outside?Have the feds done ANY scrupulous investigations on the vehicle…analyzing fibers , etc? Are the feds tracking and/or listening in on all the phone calls, texts, etc of the families from both sides that are involved? Could the X supposedly at that rehab facility made ‘arrangements’ prior to the incident or even gotten out without the facility being aware then returned? Could nonleg*ls be involved? Why weren’t tracking dogs brought in to assist immediately especially because this area is actually so close to multiple states? How much trafficking actually has happened in this area? Pig farms in area…some have unscrupulous reputations that precede them…perfect location for ‘disappearing’ of victims.
Off the subject for just a moment, there is a 15 year old boy missing for a week now from a Tulsa Walmart…maybe there’s time to help him… Marshall Jackson
Found!
Bitter custody battles often end in foul play.
Some people really can’t say rural…he literally said it’s a rule area.
Armed women are safer women.
How did paternal granny get the kids?
MONEY
I heard the mom’s new boyfriend was sexually abusing the children, so they were taken away and given to the father. That’s the jest of what I’m getting.
Dumb judge most times they just randomly pick one or the other and judges like to give & take meaning if they take from here they’ll give there .. only 1% of lawyers and judges actually do there job and are not corrupt .. trust me at times judges have a very bad back ground and they still keep there jobs behind that bench
Also if there friends more w one attorney or that one attorney donates to them more the case wins to that attorney
It’s never about the case no one cares
Judges also don’t use the constitution of law they think there god and go by there rules & they make up there owen laws they can make it hard financially to keep appealing , hiring lawyers .. most times a person can’t keep going to court to appeal after appeal to these ignorant judges decision
Point is never trust the system
They all share the same bottle of wine
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It’s never about the kids they could care less it’s about money 💰
Wish they would look into that judge so we can learn more abut them .. let’s look there back ground , h court history etc as well as the fighting failing attorneys … a women divorces to move on to a safer , happier life the man always wants revenge and most times the revenge parents are there to help $$ .. or there all masons
The kid's father is supposed to be at Salvation Army inpatient rehab center the day he got out of jail.
She’s most likely the closest relative fit/able to keep the children.
Start checking all the grain silos...have heard stories in past where bodies were found in these silos.
Surprised K9 hasn't been turned loose....
They seem to not do that half the time when that’s something they should do right away if someone is missing.
@@whatfreedom7the small town may not have a K 9 but yes it would help. Thx to the horse lady volunteer.
Strange the last few cases I've seen of missing people they don't seem to be using dogs
In fact I haven't seen them using dogs in a very very long time if ever
There were escaped convicts that were spotted and they still didn't bring dogs in
Riley was missing and they didn't bring dogs in
Something's weird that they're not using dogs no more
They use dogs all the time. See Dave Paulides' CanAm Missing 411. These dogs are very expensive, so only large organizations have them. Big cities, etc.
Sending prayers
Wait… where you are is near where they were supposed to pick up the kids???…… yea… that’s not good
Prayers 🙏
find out who the common denominator is between both women, and find out who they were both in contact with. there's your likely answer
Maybe I've been watching too much true crime tv but my feeling says to check out the paternal grandmother.
Veronica’s baby daddy and his family need to be looked at.
Not shocked
You can say what you want about this country but when the cards are drawn Americans pull together and support one another ❤❤ that makes me so proud of my fellow Americans 😊❤
Why did that mother need supervised visits? What is the matter in which she was found guilty by a court?
That's what I'm wondering. Why does grandma have custody of the kids?
All of this sounds so Oklahoma.
It's the father of children they were picking up.
We all seen enough now. It probably without doubt a family member did it.
Comment said GRANNY BOY FRIEND. NOT GRADE PA!! SO HE WOULD HAVE FRIENDS UNKNOWEN TO MOST OTHERS...I WOULD BE LOOKING VERY HARD UP HIS ASS FOR ANSWERS
I think that the in-law fam of yonger woman got them..too close to that home
I still find the whole pastors wife being with her odd. Did the church try to help mediate?
@@shondrawhite9317 you're obviously not from this area. We just help each other out of the goodness of our hearts! You should try it!
@@shondrawhite9317 you're obviously not from around here, we just do things out of the goodness of our hearts. You should try it!
@@TurkeyCreekGal
I live on the west coast.
We look out for each other here too, despite what the news may say.
She is a court appointed volunteer....newsnation reports are really lame
Here in Greenville SC, two women were shot and killed by the one's ex husband, in the parking lot of his apartment. The one woman went with the mom of the kids to pick them up from him. This and people going missing without a trace is starting to become an epidemic.
Supervisor for court appointed
So sad she didnt even make it there
Are the children and grandma safe❓ We need pictures so we can be. On the Lookout❗️
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I get the feeling “Dateline” will covering this mystery once it’s solved. Sadly, I’m sure it won’t end well.
It’s a fine line between reporting the facts, being respectful to their loved ones and not alienating any support by revealing why someone else needed to be at the visitation.
Praying they will be found safe!
So a piece on Missing Army National Guard soldier, Nicolas Faust missing in Poughkeepsie, NY. It's been 12 days. 😢
Did they check any cameras entering into the town to see if maybe they did enter into town
Coming from a person who lives in Montana that is not one of the most remote places in the nation. Stop with the hype. Just report the facts.🙄
Could Leland get any more facts wrong?
Probably the ladies were transferred to another car.
Likely. Second location is a very high percentage you won’t be back, especially women.
This makes more sense now. An on going custody battle. Sounds like the mother probably wasn’t welcome with the family. And the other woman was court appointed. Look very closely at the family. So sad.
Come on people it’s not a lesson in pronunciation….please there are two women missing and these children have been through abuse and still don’t have a mother …hopefully the grandmother is taking good care of them …but now who knows ?
My buck is on granny an friends
They need to be looking at the father because the other mom was probably just a casual tea of the intended crime. I guarantee you. The father hired somebody to kill her and ended up having to kill the other mom too. Something in my gut tells me that's what happened. And that's sad.
I live near the church in East Texas where the young father & his new wife were leaving a supervised visit with his daughter & were ambushed on the steps of the church as they were leaving by his ex wife & her father. Her mother & brother were involved too. Thank goodness they were stupid & got caught shortly after. They all went to prison.
nasty divorce and custody battles often end badly. Her friend for support might have regretted this trip.
Supervised visitation person she got paid
@@arizonadreaming4183 sounds like she didn't get paid enough for this
Estranged husband did it
He's in rehab and was when they disappeared!
Doesnt mean he didnt have family do it @@TurkeyCreekGal
Or his family
@@TurkeyCreekGal I've read the ex was released from jail sometime a few days prior to this and was supposed to go into rehab but have also read that the ex was the one who reported to law enforcement that he found the car of the missing two women. Food for thought.
@@laurabeissel498 yes, I think s
you are right
How does one person take down two people at once.?
The husband 😢