Norwegian K98kF1 Repurposed Mauser

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • At the end of When Germany capitulated in 1945, there were nearly 400,000 German soldiers in Norway (largely thanks to the efforts of the Norwegian Resistance to prevent them from being transferred south). This provided Norway with a massive supply of K98k Mauser rifles to reequip their armed forces, and they picked about 250,000 of the best condition guns (mostly early war production, naturally) to take into service. These rifles were repaired and refurbished as necessary, and given new Norwegian serial numbers on the receivers, bolts, and buttplates. They were also modified to have "U"-notch rear sights and square post front sights.
    In 1953 and 54, the a program was undertaken to rebarrel the rifles from 8x57mm to .30-06 (7.62x63mm) in order to be able to use supplies of .30-06 ammunition made available by the United States. While the Norwegian Navy retained its 8mm chambering, all the other service branches had their rifles modified to use the new cartridge, and these rifles were given the new designation m/K98kF1. A second rebarreling was begun years later to convert rifles to the new 7.62mm NATO cartridge, but this was quickly abandoned and the G3 rifle adopted instead, with the Mauser going into war reserve by 1973.
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  • @somegoddamnguy
    @somegoddamnguy 7 лет назад +940

    Fun fact: If you go to the Norwegian island of Svalbard you have to carry a gun if you venture outside the small town of Longyearbyen to defend yourself/your group against polar bears, if you're a tourist (like I was) and don't have your own gun, you get a loaner and most of them are this 30-06 k98k conversion

    • @Nordic_Shooting
      @Nordic_Shooting 7 лет назад +50

      somegoddamnguy tøft, jeg har lyst til å dra til Svalbard

    • @AtomicPeacenik
      @AtomicPeacenik 7 лет назад +21

      somegoddamnguy that's pretty neat!

    • @Jesses001
      @Jesses001 7 лет назад +9

      So still have some service life in it. Also since I am sure they would not allow me to bring my rifle along, I appreciate the loaner, ha.

    • @fardiemann
      @fardiemann 7 лет назад +6

      I read about a guy skiing in Svalbard with his daughter, he had one of these

    • @1971irvin
      @1971irvin 7 лет назад +3

      Jeg også...lol

  • @somegoddamnguy
    @somegoddamnguy 7 лет назад +219

    you are right about the markings, for those interested in their exact translation: "HÆR" - Hæren - Army, "FLY" - Flyvåpenet - Airforce, "KNM" - Kongelige Norske Marine -Royal Norwegian Navy, "KART" - Kystartilleriet - Coastal artillery

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 7 лет назад +4

      "Hær" being the norwegian word for army, the -en postfix is to denote that it's a "certain singular"

    • @theawesomesausage
      @theawesomesausage 7 лет назад +2

      sundhaug92 called the definite singular.

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 7 лет назад

      Ah yes, sorry, forgot the word and tried gtranslate

    • @SSRT1000
      @SSRT1000 7 лет назад +6

      and the ones marked "POLITI" - police wasn't rebarreld and kept the 8x57js caliber (7.92) all of them were "berg karabin" rifles

    • @andreasolsen5174
      @andreasolsen5174 4 года назад +3

      NSB - Norges Statsbaner (Train company) also had some K98s

  • @njr8744
    @njr8744 3 года назад +29

    I think these rifles are the main reason why .30-06 is the most popular hunting caliber here in Norway. ;)
    My dad has one of these in his locker. The rifle is built in 1936, so it's a pre-war model, and in 2036 it will work just as well as when it was new!
    It's a beautiful and robust rifle, and it works so well you'd think it was brand new. These rifles have earned their place as the best bolt action rifles ever built.
    Puts those flimsy 300 dollar rifles they make now adays to shame.
    Now, my dad shoots a Tikka, and both me and my brother shoot Sako 85's. But we'll always keep that good old .30-06 Mauser standing by. :D

  • @Ratus66
    @Ratus66 7 лет назад +214

    I was in the youth organisation of the National Guard (Heimervernet) in Norway at age 17 and we were handed out K98kF1. This was as late at 1987.

    • @bjrnsandvoll9988
      @bjrnsandvoll9988 7 лет назад +17

      Yeah, I remember those days :) I had to buy one of these from Jørn a few years ago, just to reminisce :)

    • @gullintanni
      @gullintanni 7 лет назад +6

      A friend of mine found one in the attic after his grandpa passed on. It is a nice deer gun.

    • @stianstorengen9579
      @stianstorengen9579 7 лет назад +3

      Stian Aadna We still had the Mauser in 1995.

    • @arecold4222
      @arecold4222 7 лет назад +2

      Stian Aadna Haha jeg skal starte det etter sommeren. Da får vi AG-3

    • @gamerkip2104
      @gamerkip2104 6 лет назад +2

      My grandpa was in the heimvernet. when they changed the weapon they put the mausers up for sale to the ones who had had them and my gramps bought it. right now its in my dads weapon safe im pondering on using it while hunting

  • @madsli
    @madsli 7 лет назад +83

    For anyone wondering, the way you pronounce Æ is the same way as you pronounce A in the words apple or hack.

    • @cericat
      @cericat 4 года назад +3

      Ash as the grapheme æ is named was a part of the English language originally, the same as the thorn and about half a dozen or so other characters you rarely see outside middle English or Old English texts due to the Latin influence declining in modern English. It's often replaced with a non-conjoined ae or simply an e such as æon became aeon or eon presently.

    • @dtolaas2456
      @dtolaas2456 4 года назад +2

      you pronounce it æøå

    • @BerntBalchen
      @BerntBalchen 4 года назад

      @@cericat It comes from Old Norse. The Vikings brought it. :)

    • @cericat
      @cericat 4 года назад +1

      ​@@BerntBalchen Normans more so, in this case, there's precious few Viking words in English and none I know where we used the ash historically or presently.

    • @olejonnymartinsen67
      @olejonnymartinsen67 3 года назад +1

      @@cericat You have the word bag, from Norse baggir. Pronounced bæg.

  • @Mixail747
    @Mixail747 7 лет назад +21

    Continued admiration for Norwegians (and N.Europeans in general) pragmatic, calm and thought-out approach to things.

    • @gnaskar
      @gnaskar 4 года назад +4

      There's an old Norwegian saying that goes "Man tager vad man haver" which literally translates to "you use whatever you have" and with the cultural context to "Cook with what you have in the kitchen". Pragmatism runs deep in Norwegian culture.

    • @Icebearman
      @Icebearman 3 года назад

      @@gnaskar are you speaking swedish or danish?. just asking because im norwegian. "Vi tar hva man har" is probably the correct phase.

    • @evilreddog
      @evilreddog 2 года назад +2

      @@Icebearman While you would be correct with todays norwegian, the saying is a very old one when danish pronounciations still ran deep. So the correct way of the saying is the way gnaskar wrote it

  • @erikga46
    @erikga46 3 года назад +10

    First; a huge thank you for your excellent and well researched/presented series of videos.
    This particular video does bring me back... I did my mandatory 15 month military service in the Royal Norwegian Navy in 1973-74. We were the last contingent to be issued with the kar98, as the Navy then finally was moving on to the AG3.
    My finger was hovering over the comment section during the discussion of the different caliber conversions, because I distinctly remember that my issued rifle was in the original 7.92x57mm caliber, and - yes! - you finally made that point.
    Brilliant!
    The reason I remembered this so well was that my father actually taught me to shoot using a Wehrmacht Kar98k he took off a German soldier in the 1945 liberation of Norway. So when I did my boot camp the rifle I was issued with was like an old friend. Which, incidentally made me get very good results on the shooting range. The 7301 Navy recruit contingent was the last to use the Kar98k as was implied in the video, so we also got a very rudimentary intro to the AG3
    Reminiscing further, at this time the Norwegian Navy also retired their trusty Thompsons and Colts. There were still huge stocks of 45ACP, so we got all the ammo we wanted for the Thompsons, which I remember to be M1A1s. By this time they were so worn out that if you tried to fire a single shot, the result would be a burst of 2-4 rounds... The range used for the Thompsons was not to be used for any subsequent contingents so we were basically allowed to demolish the targets and the supporting structures with our Thompsons... While the Drill Instructors were standing around laughing their heads off.
    HUGE fun, - which modern day Health & Safety would have put a very quick stop to...

  • @imLawless
    @imLawless 7 лет назад +8

    I trained with this rifle in the Norwegian home guard youth volunteers as late as 1992-1994. Still a fine rifle.

  • @XX86
    @XX86 7 лет назад +44

    It might be interesting to mention that the Allies wanted all German weapons in Norway to be destroyed. After some weapons had been destroyed, the Norwegian authoritiesprotested and the Allies understood that Norway could not afford to buy their surplus weapons anyhow and let Norway keep the German weapons.

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 7 лет назад +198

    400,000 is a lot of German soldiers.

    • @Punisher9419
      @Punisher9419 7 лет назад +2

      History might have been told another way. If D-Day failed what would the allies have done. Peace? or another attempt. It's like with Japan, if the US had never created nuclear weapons would the US invaded Japan, offered peace terms or invaded failed then peace terms or failed and tried again.

    • @SmaugTheTerrible
      @SmaugTheTerrible 7 лет назад +33

      Actually Germany probably still wouldve lost- remember that they were pretty much backpedaling on the eastern front after the battle of Kursk which was the year before DDay. Something like 80% of all German casualties were on the Eastern front ive heard
      The major difference would be that the Iron curtain probably wouldve extended far more westward than in did in actual history, and the Cold War may have become WW3

    • @blackwoodsecurity531
      @blackwoodsecurity531 7 лет назад +7

      i think we would've just gone in through italy anyways. After all, there's more than one way to invade Europe lol

    • @smartlp3010
      @smartlp3010 7 лет назад +5

      yeah but Norway was also a vital Position for the Germans. They even played with the idea of keeping on fighting after Berlin was lost in Norway and Denmark but luckily they canceld those plans.

    • @Punisher9419
      @Punisher9419 7 лет назад +12

      I'm an idiot, I completely forgot about the Eastern Front. And yes the casualties in the East where far higher then in the West. If you where stationed in the West it was like Disneyland in comparison. It's a shame Hollywood doesn't make many films about the Eastern front because it was quite different to the Western front. Same with the Afrikan front. I would like to see more films about the Southern front and the Eastern front from Western film producers. There are a lot of German, Scandinavian and Russian films about their wars against Germany and Russia but not many that the west have done.

  • @MrDesigium
    @MrDesigium 7 лет назад +13

    amazing all the little intricacies of war you can learn just by looking at the firearms.

  • @Baltic_Hammer6162
    @Baltic_Hammer6162 5 лет назад +26

    Norway seems to have a good interest in precision/long range shooting. I see posts or videos from Norway shooters more than other countries. My mother's side is Norwegian and most those families were big into hunting and shooting.

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 4 года назад +3

      Hei på deg :) Vikinger kan nå skyte med gamle krigsvåpen,, uæææ,,, hehe

    • @kjveslum
      @kjveslum Год назад +1

      Before WW2, when Krag-Jørgensen was the standard rifle in Norway, we had precision shooting contests on 1000 meter range! :)

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 7 лет назад +56

    Many were sold off in the 70s when soldiers left,service, you could then buy the k98 you had been issued for 12.5 pound.

  • @oregonadam6367
    @oregonadam6367 7 лет назад +41

    Two things that I love: Norway and the KAR98

    • @Kraakesolv
      @Kraakesolv 7 лет назад +3

      Oregon Adam Then I should love you!

    • @gullintanni
      @gullintanni 7 лет назад +1

      There's a lot of Norwegians in the Northwest, esp Seattle.

  • @SantaClaw
    @SantaClaw 7 лет назад +44

    Many Norwegians still own and use these for Target Practice and Hunting.

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 4 года назад +6

      I have one from 1941 as hunting rifle :)

    • @jw8042
      @jw8042 4 года назад +5

      My first hunting qualification was with an 1940 Mauser

  • @solfest9508
    @solfest9508 5 лет назад +8

    Finally a forgotten weapon I've actually shoot. Lovely guns

  • @DJCW_
    @DJCW_ 7 лет назад +315

    I'm a simple man, I see Norway, I hit the Like button.

  • @kjveslum
    @kjveslum Год назад +4

    Just a side note: The Mauser was replaced by the M1 Garand as main infantry rifle, before that in turn was replaced by the G3.

  • @1tulip
    @1tulip 7 лет назад +3

    Love the history lessons that come with these reviews. And at no extra charge too. ;) Thanks, Ian.

  • @endreapalseth3944
    @endreapalseth3944 4 года назад +3

    I found one of those in my grandparents weaponsafe and i have been wondering a lot about the backstory of it, and now i know!
    Thanks Ian

  • @danielblindheim2311
    @danielblindheim2311 7 лет назад +19

    F1 stands for "forbedring 1" which means "improvement 1".

  • @FunPrecision
    @FunPrecision 7 лет назад +15

    The barrels from the 30.06- conversion is actually Browning machine gun barrels from the US.

    • @hb9145
      @hb9145 4 года назад +4

      The barrels are awesome. Precision is kept even when the barrel is hot.

  • @pommel47
    @pommel47 7 лет назад +36

    It would be nice to own one in 8mm and one in 30-06. I love Mausers.

  • @samuelgerstner1785
    @samuelgerstner1785 7 лет назад +1

    I have two exams tomorrow and have to get up early for it, but here I am, late at night, watching Forgotten Weapons because I don't want to go to sleep yet. Thanks, Ian

  • @AleksanderNOR
    @AleksanderNOR 7 лет назад +7

    i have the navy non modified k98 inherited from my grandpa who was in Norwegian navy in 52-60

  • @HaakonTheViking
    @HaakonTheViking 7 лет назад +2

    The ones marked "Politi" (Police) are G33/40 guns in original 8mm. These guns are extremely cheap on the Norwegian market, and next to everyone and their dog has one. It's like the Mosin used to be over with you guys. I picked up a sporterized one with an old east german Jenna scope, and a brand nnew barrel in 6,5x55 for 3000 Norwegian crowns, (About 300-400 USD). I have a K98kF1 that is missing the upper forend in front of the rear sight, and has a rubber recoil pad, it cost me 500 NOK, (About 60 USD). Both of them group less than an inch at 100 meters.

  • @Ulrna
    @Ulrna 7 лет назад +1

    My Norwegian Great-Great-Great-Grandfather was a Rifle gunsmith, he was presumably famous in the municipality for his reliable rifles, but that was during the early 1800's. Wish I had one of his rifles.

  • @pjubo
    @pjubo 4 месяца назад

    These guns have been some of the primary hunting rifles in Norway for many decades after. You probably wont see too much of em now, but back in the 80s and 90s a lot of people would be carrying them.

  • @neoxenia7014
    @neoxenia7014 7 лет назад +1

    My grandfather had a Norwegian F1 mauser converted as a marksman rifle with weaver style scope mounts, heavy barrel and also a new stock. believe the bolt handle also had some modifications to fully cycle with a scope attached.

  • @MatSpeedle
    @MatSpeedle 7 лет назад +1

    As always, great video! Very cool gun and a great bit of pre war history, your attention to detail and research is always appreciated Ian!

  • @HrHaakon
    @HrHaakon 3 года назад +2

    Interesting fun fact, but the Norwegian G3, called the AG3 had an F1 model too at the end of its lifecycle, which gave it an optical sight, and an adjustable barrel. This was both a field test of optics and a stopgap until the H&Ks arrived.

  • @trygveblacktiger597
    @trygveblacktiger597 2 года назад +1

    Got one of those who deactivated at a market for 250 dollars a few years back. Its a really nice gun and reprisents both German and Norwegian history in one

  • @Burningwhisky96
    @Burningwhisky96 3 года назад

    got one myself, bought it in 2016, i knew it was norwegian but never knew much about it, thanks Ian

  • @dennishein2812
    @dennishein2812 2 года назад

    I would love one of these in .30-06. I love Mausers and .30-06 is my favorite round. Great combo.

  • @botolf9558
    @botolf9558 Год назад +1

    I have one at home in 30-06 . Very good and accurate.

  • @BeardedNorthBiker
    @BeardedNorthBiker 7 лет назад +2

    In Norwegian this fireamr is usually refered to as "heimeværns mauseren" (The Home Guard Mauser) and is alongside the Krag Jørgensen rifle the most used big game hunting rifle in use today and more or less tha last 50 years. If someone joins the shooter's core, mauser rifles are most likely what you're going to shoot.
    I was so Lucky that I got to shoot both of them quite a bit when i was 10-13 years old, before we moved to a city. Great gun, very nice shooter :)

  • @fredrikrise9298
    @fredrikrise9298 4 года назад +8

    Ian. Please do a vid on the AG3! A Norwegian made And perfected G3 if you can get your hands on one. They were taken out of service in 2008 and replaced by the HK 416.

  • @sablahedning
    @sablahedning 7 лет назад +1

    i got one of these from my grandfather, good gun

  • @0570965
    @0570965 2 года назад +1

    Sounds like it would make a sturdy hunting rifle.

  • @stein-arne6613
    @stein-arne6613 4 года назад +1

    My grandfather served his mandatory year in 1947 or 1948 and picked straight from a pile of German rifles. He was not experienced with firearms and to check if the gun was empty by pulling the trigger, luckily he was aiming down in the ground. The gun had a round in the chamber. Luckily the only consequence was a stern talk from his NCO.

  • @barryolaith
    @barryolaith 7 лет назад +16

    Dear Ian, are the ballistics of the 8mm Mauser cartridge, the 30-06 cartridge and the 7.62 NATO cartridge so similar that the original rear sight with its distance graduations could be retained without modification as you say it was? Or was some other adjustment made for range, such as to the foresight? Thanks as always for your excellent tutorials.

    • @wesleykish3297
      @wesleykish3297 7 лет назад +10

      barryolaith Being that they changed out the front sight they may have made up the difference there. Good point on the ballistics.

    • @simonferrer
      @simonferrer 7 лет назад +1

      barryolaith I was wondering that myself. I think Wesley Kish may be right, and they made up for the ballistic difference with the new front sight post.

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 7 лет назад +1

      barry, the degraded ballistic coefficient of the .30 150 gr bullet probably made it's trajectory indistinguishable from the standard 7.92 for all practical battle rifle intents and purposes.

  • @HimmelGanger
    @HimmelGanger 7 лет назад +36

    In HV-U (94-97) I used the .06 version, nice rifle, with hakekors (swastika) and all! :P

    • @Thomachi
      @Thomachi 7 лет назад

      Himmelganger HVU fra 2012 til nedleggelsen i 2015/16 her. S-HVU for å være presis :)

    • @TheMrGilatar
      @TheMrGilatar 7 лет назад +7

      "Heimevernsungdommen", the Home Guard Youth. Comparable to the UK Community Cadet Forces.

    • @RalpGalland
      @RalpGalland 7 лет назад +2

      HVU-14 92-95, I used the F2 (7.62 NATO) until the last year when we got the semi auto AG3.
      To this day it still irks me, we were offered to buy the surplus k98's we had used for $30 , only needed a hunter license... I didn't buy mine!
      Instead I saw "my" rifle at the local hunting store, along with about 50 other k98k F1's and F2's being sold for $80's.... And yet I didn't buy one, cuz I was about to head into the army and didn't think I had the time to get my hunting license.
      When I returned a bit over a year later, there was not a surplus k98 in any of the hunting stores or surplus stores left.

    • @JustSomeGuy489
      @JustSomeGuy489 7 лет назад +1

      I expected them to grind the nazi symbols off... Unusual.

    • @RalpGalland
      @RalpGalland 7 лет назад +5

      No, too much work. I even got to use a MG3 with german markings when attending HV NCO school back in 97 I believe. It was a mg42 converted to 7.62 Nato... It worked better than some 1980's produced Turkish MG3's that the army had bought... Those were so bad we were not alowed to shoot live ammo with them, while the german 1943 converted one just kept on going.

  • @ErlandBraein
    @ErlandBraein 5 лет назад +2

    The F2 modification for 7,62 NATO ammunition were issued as sharp-shooter rifles and were also issued in part with optical sights. They were known as "Kongsberg-Mauser", Kongsberg of course being the name of the Norwegian arms manufacturer. They were at the time considered to be very good rifles.

    • @Granberg7.62
      @Granberg7.62 2 года назад

      Yes, my grandpa used a F2 in 7,62×51mm when he served in the homeguard. It has a scope mount on it and a different stock. Like a standard hunting rifle stock. He bought it because it was faced out by the AG3.

  • @maynardcapellan1969
    @maynardcapellan1969 2 года назад +1

    Wow!! K98 in .30-'06..

  • @AutumnJazz90
    @AutumnJazz90 7 лет назад +1

    Beautiful wood on this example.

  • @arildbergstrm9065
    @arildbergstrm9065 8 месяцев назад

    KV69! Mauser made for .308 was made in Norway for the Home Guard. Every teem (7 soldiers) had a sniper. Those were issued with .308 Mauser, named KV69 (KV is Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk) At the height of the cold war, the Home guard had about 150 000 soldiers. 150 000/7 makes about 20 000 K98F1 converted into KV

  • @minuteman4199
    @minuteman4199 7 лет назад +6

    I saw one of those for sale at my local hardware store twenty odd years ago for a couple of hundred bucks. One of my big regrets in life is not buying it.

  • @Mr037rally
    @Mr037rally 7 лет назад

    Ah Sunday and a new video to watch, Thank you guys

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 7 лет назад

    Don't think i had ever heard of these. Makes perfect sense though. Minor mods and re-barreling, u can make excellent use of the stockpile u have (and they didn't even need to rebarrel them at first). No doubt the US knew we were going to the 308 right then, or had already started, and wanted to reduce stockpiles of 30-06. They probably had more than they could ever sell on the surplus market, so they gave it away to allies. Makes sense. I think Greece and S. Korea got plenty, along with Garands. Great video as always. Thank you

  • @thomasoddlongva4671
    @thomasoddlongva4671 5 лет назад +1

    The boltcarrier is inprinted because reserve soldiers would bring their rifles home and after the conscription period ended, while the bolt carriers would be stored at the mobilisation sites. Hence the effort to mark the bolt carriers while not marking the remaining parts.

  • @babyhominid7779
    @babyhominid7779 7 лет назад +11

    Norway could have used it it the movie, "The Thing".

  • @fenrir9404
    @fenrir9404 7 лет назад

    I remember for about 13-14 years ago these were sold out for about 60 dollars from the reserve armory. If you were currently enlisted in the army. Pulled some strings trough a friend of my father who was currently in the national guard to get me one of those as a first hunting rifle. Was about 14 years old.

  • @haksjo
    @haksjo 7 лет назад +2

    Love it. I own one. It kicks pretty good.

  • @HDSME
    @HDSME 2 месяца назад

    Norwegians made beautiful guns I love thier mosen nagants!!!

  • @fliring1847
    @fliring1847 7 лет назад +2

    My K98KF1 is a 1935 German capture VZ-24 converted to .30-06. It was designated to the coastal artillery. (K.Art.) Quite the odd-job, I know. Picked it up for 1000NOK (120$) 2 months ago, I'll be using it for moose hunting this season!

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 2 года назад +1

      Same as mine from 1941 :)

    • @fjdud
      @fjdud Год назад

      Håper for guds skyld dere holder disse riflene fri for modifikasjoner

  • @bernteinar906
    @bernteinar906 5 лет назад +8

    What was it sold for. would like to compare it to our prices here in Norway.

  • @ericsanford7075
    @ericsanford7075 2 года назад

    Love this channel!!! Do they have chrome lined bores?

  • @fredz0rz0r
    @fredz0rz0r 7 лет назад

    Due to strickt gunlaws a typical K98kF1 is around 160 US in Norway, the Police g33/40 variants in good original condition is about 600 US.
    Krag in 6.5x55 can be had for around 100 US.

  • @TheKverrsetjaren
    @TheKverrsetjaren 5 лет назад +1

    I got one myself . Shoots great.

    • @blatherskite9601
      @blatherskite9601 4 года назад +2

      Me too. Cost less than 50 rounds 30-06, shoots like a dream.

  • @officialqzf
    @officialqzf 7 лет назад +5

    Hær literally means Army

  • @blandpepper2755
    @blandpepper2755 7 лет назад +8

    ian I had a question about the stg44 what happened to it after the war for Germany did they adopt it as their main rifle or just use as a SMG type role?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  7 лет назад +24

      It was a direct replacement for the MP40, and was intended to replace the K98k as well, but production never came close to achieving that.

    • @blandpepper2755
      @blandpepper2755 7 лет назад +5

      Forgotten Weapons thanks for clearing that up

    • @someduckwithanultimax6549
      @someduckwithanultimax6549 7 лет назад +1

      Ive seen a couple of pics of German police with Sturmgewehrs in the '50s, but I don't know what the general policy was with regard to them.

    • @LeeEnfield7756
      @LeeEnfield7756 7 лет назад +4

      I think East Germany used them for a while until they had sufficient amounts of AKs.
      Yugoslavia actually issued them to paratroopers until the 1980s, and they've also been turning up in the Middle East in the last few years.

    • @betaich
      @betaich 7 лет назад +3

      East Germany used them in their Volkspolizei. They were used well into the 1950 and later replaced with the AK.

  • @garandhero
    @garandhero 6 лет назад

    Thanks

  • @trondala9602
    @trondala9602 5 лет назад +3

    They didnt adopt the G3! It was the AG-3

    • @hb9145
      @hb9145 4 года назад

      Correct. It was a modified G3 that was produced under license in Norway. Not the same weapon.

  • @larryjohnson150
    @larryjohnson150 7 лет назад +1

    That would be cool as hell to have as a deer rifle!

    • @hb9145
      @hb9145 4 года назад

      Add binoculars and you are good to go.

  • @Kydenius
    @Kydenius 4 года назад +2

    I dont own a gun, so pardon my question. I'm interested and want to own one in the future; so help me out, I want to learn. I'm asking this: Could this repurposed Mauser with 7.62x63mm fire the newer 7.62×51mm NATO rounds without being rebarreled? I mean at the loss of some efficiency maybe? Would any problems insue firing NATO rounds or the same civilian equivalent 308. Winchester/7.62x51 compared to firing 7.62x63mm cartriges? Thank you!

    • @Dodgernot
      @Dodgernot 4 года назад +2

      No that would be quite dangerous to try. Do a google search on the cartridges and try and find a picture with them side by side and you would see why.

    • @arildsolemdal6966
      @arildsolemdal6966 2 года назад +1

      Yes, you can do it, but you will end up with a shoulderless casing known as ".308 Idiot" :D Do a picture search :-)

  • @Richardcecker
    @Richardcecker 7 лет назад +1

    Always interesting! Thanks!

  • @The_Foxymew
    @The_Foxymew 7 лет назад +1

    Man, now I wanna see if I can't get my hands on one of these myself, being a big fan of the Mauser 98 platform, as well as being patriotic about my home country. Wonder how many are left around in my country.

  • @zoggy2
    @zoggy2 7 лет назад +1

    Ian, were the rifles proof tested for the 30-06 cartridge? There is a lot of discussion on gun boards about the safety of shooting these since a lot of metal was removed from the receiver.

    • @fliring1847
      @fliring1847 7 лет назад +3

      I believe they were, if not, I can tell you first hand that it's ok. Multiple barrels can be shot out before the reciever fucks up. Many rifles were rebarreled more than once, I'll tell ya that. These have been popular competition rifles as well as service rifles for decades.

  • @Freemyland
    @Freemyland 7 лет назад +6

    Worth noting as well that the rifles kept by the police where never converted as well, and are still in original calibre. Like the G33/40 were all given to the police, and those still remaining are still original apart from a "POLITI" marking on the left of the chamber.

  • @boarzwid1002
    @boarzwid1002 2 года назад

    I have the post war G33/40 receiver ground the same way and marked POLITI and reserialized but other wise standard G33/40 945 - 1940 shoots great

  • @LatwPIAT
    @LatwPIAT 6 лет назад +1

    You mentioned ammunition compatibility with future US weapons as a motivation for changing the calibre to 30'06. It was more likely a desire for compatibility with then-current Norwegian Army weapons, including the M1 Garand and the M1919 machine gun. (On the topic of ex-German Norwegian firearms, Norway inherited a large number of MG34s and MG42s after the war. Most of the MG42s were sent to Germany to build West German arms stocks - and then basically sold back to Norway as MG3s still with Third Reich markings. These totally-not-MG42s are still the primary machine gun in the Norwegian military and are occasionally fitted with new, Turkish-production barrels. The MG34s remained in use for a long time, primarily with the Home Guard, who used them until the mid-90s until they were so worn it was considered actively dangerous to shoot one and they were withdrawn.)

  • @arildbergstrm9065
    @arildbergstrm9065 8 месяцев назад

    You have an interested article about the Stomperud Krag (Produced in Norway for the Germans) I miss an article about the Norwegian Krags.

  • @Luxegr
    @Luxegr 7 лет назад +35

    These rifles are really cheap here in Norway. Will run you around 240 bucks

    • @nikolai5884
      @nikolai5884 7 лет назад +7

      That's the expensive KNM in 8x57, the HÆR is around half of that.

    • @Luxegr
      @Luxegr 7 лет назад +2

      It will depend of course on the condition of course. I base this on rifles I saw on Winge Våpen some time ago. Looked them up now and apparently they don't sell them anymore. At least their website dont carry them.

    • @mattis537
      @mattis537 7 лет назад +4

      i bought one last week for 60us, so no they are even cheaper than that

    • @nikolai5884
      @nikolai5884 7 лет назад +2

      Landrø had a lot of these a few years back, sold them for 1000 NOK a piece

    • @jimvandemoter6961
      @jimvandemoter6961 7 лет назад +3

      I want one! If I showed up at my local range with one of these, everybody would be drooling all over it, and begging to try it out.

  • @quistan2
    @quistan2 6 лет назад

    Notches in the receiver are present on all 1893 pattern mausers that were converted from 7.65x53 Argentine to 8x57 mauser by the Turks, notches look a bit cruder on them, but not too bad.

  • @kalle911
    @kalle911 6 лет назад

    that Mauser bolt action was used to design NM149 sniper rifle in late 1980s, though it was merely in 7.62x51. Good enough for the day, I guess. As usual we get old Norwegian stuff here in Estonia and that includes those NM149s. I've seen a few around, heavily modified.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 4 года назад

      Get out. Most modern bolt action rifles are based off of the Mauser in at least some way.

  • @tarjei99
    @tarjei99 7 лет назад

    Rechambering might have been because the army got M1 Garands and Brownings. The Home Guard got a lot of Mausers and MG-34s. So the Home Guard were more heavily armed than the army.

  • @sitek483
    @sitek483 7 лет назад +4

    when will be AS Val in your vid?

  • @gabrielchcosta
    @gabrielchcosta 3 года назад

    Changing the iron sights was their best decision

  • @peergynt6515
    @peergynt6515 3 года назад

    Have one from grandad, but the shape of the wood looks completely different and I think it has been converted from 30-06 to .308 for some reason. Made in 1939

  • @bwxmoto
    @bwxmoto 7 лет назад +1

    I love shooting .30-06 rifles.

  • @olaholtan9741
    @olaholtan9741 7 лет назад +2

    I am Norwegian and my dad GOT one of those guns

  • @bloodCount8895
    @bloodCount8895 5 месяцев назад

    If I have a major cracked in my Norwegian 30.06 mauser stock can I just swap it out with a ww2 german k98k stock?

  • @nikolai5884
    @nikolai5884 7 лет назад

    You should make a video about the NM 149 sniper rifle. Aswell as the Mauser m59 and m67

  • @jaggernutox
    @jaggernutox 6 лет назад +1

    my dad told me that his unit's machingunner had an MG3 with a swastika on it due to it being a converted MG42, kinda crazy when you think about it

    • @heikopanzlaff3789
      @heikopanzlaff3789 4 года назад

      No, MG 1`s are converted from MG 42, MG 3`s are made new by Rheinmetall because of the different flash hider and barrel guiding bushing. ( Rückstoßverstärker und Rohrführungshülse ) In the German army all old markings had been milled away on MG 1`s.

  • @normann4016
    @normann4016 4 месяца назад +1

    I have one new arsenal-refurbished and re-barreled in .308 and very accurate... marked HAER (Army) and still with nazi eagles..

  • @batickell
    @batickell 7 лет назад +1

    Interesting they didn't cross out that Waffenamt below the Norwegian serial number.

  • @tbo2307
    @tbo2307 Год назад

    They made them in 3006 because the army used the Garand as standard rifle. The mausers were used by the HV (Home guard - militia tasked with behind the lines security).
    Btw. The Krag in 6,5x55 proved to be superior to the Mauser in the battle of Narvik (Mountain Warfare).

  • @blackwoodsecurity531
    @blackwoodsecurity531 7 лет назад +3

    one of the most successful war-loot stories haha

  • @mac21819912181991
    @mac21819912181991 6 лет назад +1

    WOW! They made a rifle based on PUBG's kar98!!!

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak5554 7 лет назад

    So if you are entering these into your bound book, should you use the manufacturer's serial #, or should you use the later Norwegian serial #?

    • @fliring1847
      @fliring1847 7 лет назад +2

      You would use the new Norwegian serial #. They mixed a lot of parts and made frankenstein-mausers, and basically gave it a new number.

  • @trumpetscall8910
    @trumpetscall8910 Год назад

    Mine have a thicker barrel, and a diopter sight.

  • @BkT_20
    @BkT_20 7 месяцев назад

    Cool thing is that my dad actually used a kar98k as his first millitary service rifle for the norwegian army as a HV ungdom (youth army) (1970’s) norway just became a rich country and when they got the money i dont think their first thought was to arm 16 year old kids first so thats what he used😌

  • @JDTran
    @JDTran 7 лет назад

    Hi Ian,
    which is the best way to send you the information on the Springfield 87M so that you could do a review on it. I have research on the net and no information found. So please help. Thanks

  • @arcticblue248
    @arcticblue248 7 лет назад +1

    I am fairly sure that the army eventually swapped these with the M1 Garand, as I seems to remember my uncle telling me they used the Garand as a borderguard towards Russia.
    And that must have been in the 60's.
    Also as a sidenote, my brother was a medic in the Homeguard (Heimeværnet) and he had before he got the MP5 .. a German MP40 Schmeisser with the nazi eagle ... kinda funny tough.
    Alot of our other equipment was Marshalhelp surplus I remember ... from my time both in the army and heimeværnet .. we had our GRU that was stamped with Marshalhelp at it even ...

    • @a64738
      @a64738 7 лет назад

      Yes they was swapped for the M1 Garand pretty early. The Garand is by the way a beautiful weapon that is a pleasure to shoot :) To bad it is not legal to own for civilians here in Norway...

    • @XX86
      @XX86 7 лет назад

      The swapped to the Garand in the early 50's when Norway got Garands and US Carbins from USA. The mausers was then transfered to the HV. Initially it was meant that the army should use Mauser and HV Krag, but it turned out that the Krag was in too bad shape. Rondo, you can buy a Garand on a hunting license in Norway now.

    • @gullintanni
      @gullintanni 7 лет назад

      The M1 Carbine was used in the Norwegian airforce/air defense systems a long time. I think we replaced those in the 70's.

    • @TheNorwegian
      @TheNorwegian 5 лет назад +1

      @@gullintanni I actually think the Police had M1 Carbines ("US-Karabin") as late as the mid-1990s

  • @lmyrski8385
    @lmyrski8385 4 года назад

    So, they didn't alter the sight settings? I suppose maybe they didn't anticipate long range shooting would happen that much?

  • @jogisetstad2615
    @jogisetstad2615 2 года назад

    if im not mistaken my dad still hunts elk with one of these. but its 308/7,62 nato and not much left of the original mauser. fantasticly sloppy yet precise action, miss its target just as well as modern guns.

  • @WinnyJ1
    @WinnyJ1 7 лет назад +1

    My grand dad was issued with a mauser when he was inn for basic training post war.
    He told me that the the average guy from his batch were horribly poor shots and only 10 of his batch were able to successfully hit something on their first try.
    He later went on and won a international completion with his mauser.

  • @StPaul76
    @StPaul76 7 лет назад

    Did they put the German 8x57IS 196gr s.S service round stadia with the rear sight assembly into .30-06 barrels or did they just use the old assembly and just make new stadia for the .30-06 147gr U.S ball ammo..? The two ballistically very different rounds have different points of impact. Thanks for the video!

    • @WhattAreYouSaying
      @WhattAreYouSaying Год назад

      They solved the ballistics problem by instilling a new front sight post. The rear sights is original German made ones, but they modified the sight picture to an "U" notch instead of the German "V" notch.

  • @cedric7561
    @cedric7561 7 лет назад +1

    Hi Ian, could you explain the difference between the 30-06 and the British .303 rounds thanks

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 4 года назад

      The difference is negligible. The . 303 is generally considered to be a lower pressure cartridge than the 30-06, but the . 303 can push its bullets to a comparable velocity, so the difference here is negligible, too. :)

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 4 года назад +1

      @@VikingNorway-pb5tm829 I beg to differ. The .30-'06 is much more versatile and is capable of delivering much better ballistic performance than the .303. The standard load in WW2 for the .303 was a 174 grain projectile at a published velocity of 2440feet per second. When compared to the .30-'06 which, in one loading commonly used, pushed a 172 grain bullet, of slightly narrower diameter, and roughly equal length, thus leading to a better ballistic coefficient, at 2660 feet per second, leads to a not insignificant increase in power and range. This doesn't even take into account the fact that modern developments in powders and bullets have significantly improved the performance of the .30-'06.

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 4 года назад

      @@georgesakellaropoulos8162 I know, i took the text from a place,,, and missed i see :)

  • @DrBernard989
    @DrBernard989 7 лет назад

    Nice looking rifle.