ZF-41: Germany's Worst Sniper Scope
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One of the pieces of feedback the German military got form he invasion of Poland in 1939 was a desire for a squad-level designated marksman in each unit. This would be a man with the best shooting skills of the unit, but not actually a fully trained sniper, and he should be equipped with a light and simple optical sight, for shooting at small targets like pillbox ports or sandbagged machine gun nests. To fill this need, development of what would become the ZF-40 and ZF-41 scope was started. It was initially envisioned as mounting to the G41(M) and G41(W) rifles, although this never actually happened.
Instead, by the time the scopes were ready for use, those fully-trained snipers were deemed a higher priority, and there were insufficient regulations ZF-39 type scopes in production to equip all the snipers being put through sniper school. So, the K98k with ZF-41 was used as a substitute sniper's rifle - much to the chagrin of those new snipers who found its 1.5x magnification and very narrow field of view sub-par. It would not be until the summer of 1944 that the K98k-ZF41 was finally classified as a rifle suitable for anyone in the infantry. Production would continue right to the end of the war, with over 100,000 of these optics being made. They are today the most common German scopes (and scoped rifles) of World War Two, and reproductions have also been made. Today we are looking at an original example with its scope case, as well as a reproduction to distinguish between them.
Ken Tomonari's very detailed web site on the ZF40/ZF41:
zielfernrohr.b.la9.jp/index.htm
You know, this scope is in Red Orchestra 2. The developers had so much attention for detail, it sucks in the game too.
Yeah...........went, oh I believe you Ian! :D :D
Never shot with it IRL, but it sucked in RO2 so I'm not too surprised it sucked IRL. :D
Tripwire takes their shit seriously! ;)
I was looking for this comment. You're better off with iron sights than this "scope"
@@An_Lei_Laoshi I mean that's not what Ian seemed to say If I was listening to the same video. It's a fine scope for a DMR, it's terrible for a sniper. They did testing with it on InRange and found it was more accurate and had faster target acquisition than using standard iron sights
@@flightlesschicken7769 right but in our context (red orchestra 2), we are comparing it to the Soviet PU scope which is much better when compared side by side with this.
@@zachhogan7865 Yeah, but I was responding to the person who said you were better off with irons. Unless it is like that in the RO2
Kind of funny that this is adjustable to only 800m while the K98ks iron sights are adjustable to up to 2000m xD
Never forget the C96 Mauser sights could go out to 1km
Like anyone is hitting anything at 2 kilometers with iron sights anyway.
It kind of makes sense given that the iron sights were designed with the possibility of volley fire in mind.
The difference between "FU in particular" and "F this general area."
@@jamesb3497 fucular
Gun Jesus: You are without a doubt the worst German sniper optic I have heard of.
Zf-41: but you have heard of me....
in fact, the zf aint even bad, its modest and decent for its purpose, but only for the intended purpose, the rifle design is what made it scarcely mounted, and the fact that it was mounted onto rifles intended for other optics rather than on those it should have been used on, which were the infantry rifles rather than the snipers is what gave it a bad rep... Its a bad sniper, but its a good scope... The setting part is actually not really all that troublesome if you have a good bench... So yah, this pirate is not just heard of but actually a fine specimen...
@@camillosteuss exactly its a scope when nobody else had one at all
@@camillosteuss We loved it when we were able to afford the Zeiss optics for projects.
Best way was to run a trial, pretend it was important, but not be able to produce good enough results to give a definite answer.
"Gentlemen, You will always remember this as the day you ALMOST zeroed a ZF-41!"
@@Treblaine LOL! :-D
All jokes aside props to them for making a scope that has like a foot of eye relief with a 1 inch wide body.
That is kinda impressive
Its just one operand, you can make anything have any eye relief if you make the rest of it bad enough
Imperial Japanese scopes were not operator adjustable, like these German scopes. But they did work... thanks for video!
@@melchung1566 if you’re going to zero a rifle I presume, you don’t want the Everyman just to go full African (set elevation to max and laugh maniacally as you believe that you have now made a death ray.)
@@baker90338 yep!
So, like many military failures, it's less a bad design and more a design being used for something it was never designed for.
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I'm not even that much of a gun nut. But there is something unreasonably satisfying about Ian discussing the arcane details of some interesting historic firearm or firearm related artifact. He's like that really cool professor you had in college. It didn't matter what the course was about, some people have a way of making anything fascinating.
I had a music teacher in elementary school and a history teacher in high school that were like that.
Both of them could enter a rowdy classroom, walk up to their desk and just calmly start talking and immediately have everyone's attention. Actually they were both kind of history teachers because the music teacher liked to talk about music history a lot. And they both knew how to make it interesting.
Keep watching, another 4 episodes and we'll mail you your official gun nut certificate
Why aim at the mg nest when you could just shoot the red barrels next to it, no sights required? smh
Every military in the world trying to upgrade all their equipment, and I'm here like "maybe just upgrade your field ops procedures and stop your guys leaving highly explosive red barrels right next to valuable targets?".
*Insert necessary ramble about how their explosiveness means that they are somehow allways filled with the right vaporized fuel to air ratio*
Fax. We all know enemies love to place highly flammable and explosive supplies around their important facillities that is directly exposed to good guy's gunfire. And conviniently paints them bright yellow, orange or red just incase you miss them. And copious amounts of vents all over their fortress if you choose stealth.
Didn't know about Watney's over there.
I see all of these people showing off theor fancy ideas for reloading and I have to ask myself everytime, "Why don't they just shoot outside the screen?"
"Hans, give me your glasses!"
"Why?"
"I wanna make a x2,3 magnification out of this shit"
Just get a squadmate to hold up 2 handy magnifiers to your iron sight
"I hesitate to say sniper scope"
*writes it in the title*
Well he probably hesitated
Hesitated to say it, but not to write it!
It's a bad sniper scope, but it's a decent infantry scope.
salty goodness
Because like he said, it wasn't intended for sniping, but was pushed into that role.
Russian sniper: Has decent scope
German sniper: has Krapp scope
Simo Hayha: Laughs in iron sights
*Häyhä
*Liar
@@sergeireischel1610 you some salty commie cosplayer calling Simo a liar?
@@telankiristyssylinteriasetelma Nice umlauts! I really miss the easy keycaps utility I had under the old MacOS a couple of decades ago. Still have no idea why it has never been knocked off for Windows: they copied everything else, didn't they? Bastidges...
3 out of 5 longest sniper kill -CANADIAN, so assume our scopes are the best and we don't use 'iron sights' Highest kill in WWI , 378 kills by also a Canadian . On the top of that He captured 300+ German soldiers too. The environment makes a huge different. How far you need to shoot, how many targets are around and are they in the open or not. It is very hard to compare "kills" .
Ian be calling it: "Worst sniper scope"
Other countries: You guys are getting scopes?
Russians: You guys are getting food?
@@TonboIV Russians had enough scopes to loot some food from the nazis they shoot
exactly
@@sergeireischel1610 not really they had to wait until they got fed at the POW camp
Elbonian Army: Can we place an order?
I feel like saying this is a bad scope is like saying a Civic is a bad truck
It would be, but that is not what Ian is saying. It was actually used as a SNIPER scope, and it did not fulfil that role well at all. And it wasn’t really supposed to do that. It’s not necessarily a bad scope, but it’s a bad SNIPER scope. Sorry for the capital letters, just want to be clear.
My civic has truck plates and it is an excellent truck
@@karlb6273 I will have you know that I fit 10 members of the high school cheer leading squad in my 1982 Honda Civic. It was an extraordinarily costly idea but I did manage to drive almost 30 yards before the suspension failed.
@@chrismella1511 must have been some fat cheerleaders
@@chrismella1511 Did the suspension fail due to all the action? I say that assuming you were in high school at the time.
One thing I have learned from FW: the colder the weather gets, the snipier folks get
"What is this, a scope for ANTS?" -probably some disgruntled German sniper, circa 1942
was ist das? ein Spielraum für Ameisen?
@@DrMatrix1231 That must have been Google translate :D
@@Ed-hc5iz ja
It's supposed to be a rifleman scope but somehow HQ or whoever ordered these things gave it to us sniper teams. At least we have G43s so hopefully we won't be doing precision shooting anytime soon.
kerbal space program
You killed me with "internet standard of marksmanship"
Been watching the programs you host on Amazon Prime. You make it amazingly easy to suggest your channel to my friends who are into history! I appreciate your attention to detail!
What? I had no idea there was more Ian out there to enjoy! What shows does he host??
@@ultranitro437 search his name on Prime video.. The videos are packaged together for easy viewing.. worth the effort
Could have had an existing, off the shelf system, but instead went with a new design that added a dozen parts while also making so complex that only a trained technician was allowed to touch it.
How...... German of them.
Yeah the Americans tried that and found out the civilian scopes of the time weren't up to rigors of military service. And that was in a country with civilian manufacturing of scopes.
Germany by contrast at the onset of Nazi rule didn't have so much in the way of civilian scope makers. Hell the Nazis basically had to rebuild the entire German Military industrial complex.
@@clothar23 That's German engineering vs Yankee ingenuity for ya .
It almost sounds like a first attempt at what we now use as a red dot just without the wider field of view
I was thinking the ACOG.
hunt maybe...unfortunately I've never had the chance to use one to compare..
Why didn't they just use red dots then...
@@fishin_da_hood5020 Because red dots hadn't been invented in that time frame? The red dot itself is generally either battery powered or a fiber optic (not invented until the 1970s) sunlight only. Neither of which were really practical in this time frame. Pretty much the only use you see of any sort of field portable electrical systems would be on various flame throwers or the US bazooka. Systems which were not particularly light or small.
www.forgottenweapons.com/nydar-reflex-sight/
Only slightly too late for WWII usage.
When Ian said that “Russians took sniping a lot more seriously than anyone else in World War II”the Finnish felt that
the finns were directly funneled sniping tools and techniques through virtue of killing russians
It wasn’t their own sniping Russians took most seriously.
tbf, why do you think the Russians took it seriously?
A lot of new tactics adopted by the Soviets were lessons they took in the Finnish Wars. SMGs, new tank formations, molotovs...
@@bluecaptainIT molotovs were used in Spain civil war, they got named Molotov cocktail after invasion of Finland, soviet and german tanks were used in battle there, also soviet forces fought against japanese forces in Mongolia and they won. War against Finland was disaster because of Stalin's interference in strategic planning, polititians always think that they know better than professionals.
I remember you mentioning the ZF-41 in the Norwegian scout scopes video and thought it would make a nice video of its own. Glad to see you thought the same!
ZF-41, the land where engineering meets customer specs where acquisition stream meets field reality where end users get the shaft. Such as it's ever been.
Russia: goes to semi auto
America: goes to semi auto
Germany: goes to semi auto
Britain: too expensive maybe next war
Australia: why?
Not sure that's entirely fair: Britain of course went F/A [Bren gun is core of the squad, and STEN guns for anyone we're too cheap to spend a rifle on...] ;-)
Yeah Britain went more "Who cares what the ammunition carriers for the Bren gun are armed with?"
Russia also: cancel semi auto, go to full-auto
Don't forget
Russians (a bit later): goes back to bolt action.
TBF semi auto in ww2 was hardly a game changer.
Never seen a scope for a .38 Special before
now my day is interesting again
"They ran into the Russian sniper program."
Oh no.
[Laughs in Zaitsev/Pavlichenko]
You see they invaded Russia, then Stalingrad happened
@@raptorcell6633 no
Winter happened
It's a cute scope, imagine the cuteness overload if this was slapped onto that commando FAMAS?
Two million! Congrats, Ian. Keep up the excellent work. I re-watched the InRange video on the ZF-41 yesterday. Interesting to contrast the title of this video with the conclusions you drew back then! Very much an optic pressed into a role it was never intended to fill.
I think it’s in Red Orchestra 2 for the tier 1 2 G41 for sniper class,
And I had to bring my face closer to the monitor to see anything
Congrats on the 2 million subs Ian. I know this year must have been difficult with limited travel opportunities but you've managed to produce some excellent. Thank you for all your hard work and I'm looking forward to more Forgotten Weapons content in 2021.
The ZF-41 was fitted for the "Designated Marksman" with in the rifle squad. It was not then, nor ever intended as a "Sniper-Scope". I wish everyone would let this non-issue be...
Very interesting video Ian! Nice to have a long format video about this very cool scope.
As a history nerd, this is probably one of the best channels on RUclips!
If I am allowed to leave one request, it would be absolutely amazing if you could do a review of the old Tanegashima matchlocks that were made during the 16th and 17th century in Japan. Outside of Japan they are, unfortunately, very much forgotten but nonetheless an important piece of Japan's history concerning arms, as well as their evolution to a modern industrialised society.
Not like he has every single gun in existance liying around to just take requests for random stuff
@@strahinjastevic7480 Of course not, but if he ever saw one or made a deal with a Japanese museum or whatnot it would be a really interesting video; deals with museums have been made before after all.
Out of curiosity, how come you felt the urge to comment with such an obvious statement?
A request for a Japanese rifle? Now that sounds like a request that his Dad should cover.
@@Chandersson25 if he goes to a museum like that chances are he'd do a video on most of the rare and interesting stuff in it like the rifle you mentioned, no one knows when that'll happen tho and im sure he himself can figure out whats interesting to have on the chanel
Miroku made reproductions for a while, but I missed getting one.
A Kar98 with ZF-41 is what I though Jeff Cooper had in mind when I first read about his scout rifle concept.
When considering accuracy, remember we have been spoiled. Until the '80s, 1 MOA was a grail goal for elite marksmen; the rifles had to be almost hand-built and tuned.
I never understood the whole obsession with sub moa. If you can do moa at say 1000 meters you can hit a man sized target every time.
Which is all that matters in most cases. Anything else is just overcompensating or at best situational useful.
@@clothar23 The error of the marksman is a very hard thing to reduce beyond a certain level, when factoring true field conditions into the mix; hence the obsession with getting a rifle & ammunition package to sub-MOA- if the rifle and ammunition are capable of putting all rounds into 1" at 100yds, and the shooter is capable of putting all rounds into 3" at 100yds (in field conditions, not perfect range conditions) then the rifle/ammo/shooter capability is going to be roughly 4" at 100yds, or roughly 4 minute of angle. It is incredibly difficult to ensure the proper amount of training and range time to achieve consistent 2 MOA capability from the shooter.
waaay back my family moved to the countryside, we found an old pelletgun in the barn which actually had a ZF41 mounted on it.
Lost it in all these years but I've always wondered how the heck it would actually be practical.
Guess it wasnt :v
I mean it'd be practical for a designated marksman who'd probably not trying to make shots over 500 meters most of time. But as a sniper scope yeah, it's practically worthless. You'd probably wouldn't even get much benefit using this thing over iron sights
@@browngreen933 Netherlands
(we lived close to a field used by the Germans as airstrip during OP Bodenplatte, not sure if luftwaffe groundpersonel had access to this type of equipment but that might be the origin)
@@browngreen933 hope so too :l
@@browngreen933 im not really sure what it was exactly but doing some research it resembled an old pump action Crosman, the ZF being awkwardly mounted to the rear sight with the WORST eye relief.
The "gun" didnt function due to rotten seals and it was badly bend (literally pulled it out from under some old oak support beams together with a Stahlhelm) .. we already had a Sheridan Bluestreak so we kinda forgot about it I guess :(
@@browngreen933 Actually my granddad was a sailor on the Holland-America line, he brought it over from the states as a gift (along with a full size taxidermitized bizon head lol)
Does anyone know the site Ian talked about at the end? Seems he forgot to include the link in the description.
I have added it to the description text.
Thanks
The InRange video on this scope from a few years back is classic content. The awesomeness continues to this day
Interestingly Karl made a community post today highlighting that video. I figured Ian would have mentioned it in this video even as a little pop up
yes, a total InRange classic!
I remember reading in Sniper on the Eastern Front that a lot of German marksman and snipers would far prefer to use optically equipped mosin rifles as opposed to these.
Thats not entirely true. The Mosin was actually pretty terrible. And the reason they would switch to a mosin if they did isn't for the shitty scope. Most accounts I've heard reference the oil used to lube the bolts. The German used gun oil and the guns wouldn't s
Cycle in the cold mosins did because the Russians used diesel to oil the guns and it wouldn't freeze so more reliable in those elements
@@johnaranjo2059 Well; the optics on most mosin nagants of the time (the PU) was basically copied from the Germans (including its distinctive Post reticle and 4x power). And the author of the book, Sepp Allenberger, annotated a multitude of engagements where he used a capture mosin to successfully score hits and cause casualties.
@@jimservu PU were mostly used after first half of 42 or even after 43 if I remember it correctly, before this we used other scope that I forgot the name of
@@johnaranjo2059 what's so terrible about Mosin except it's safety switch?
@@thankstodd2794 wartime manufacturing quality wasn't exactly the best on russian equipment
Sniper: can we get sniper scope?
Officer: nein we have sniper scope at home.
Sniper scope at home:
Underrated 😂😂😂
I wish I could like this comment more than once .
Hey appreciate the video it's such a combination of history and firearms, there really isn't any content quite like what your doing anywhere else!
So basically, it’s the gunsight used on every tank in the video game ‘World of Tanks’.
Oh please.... it's better than that and the accuracy standard was a lot higher too.
Huh? WoT provides up to 8x magnification by default iirc, and with a pretty decent FoV. Real tanks of the era usually topped out around 5-6x. Not to mention how easy it is to use on a computer.
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N First of all, calm down: this was only a joke.
Secondly, I was referring to how half the shells you fire in the game seem to land anywhere _except_ on the target, even when fully-aimed. Maybe the player gets that super-awesome sight, but the in-game gunner is using a Chinese knockoff of a ZF-41 whilst drunk.
@@Mr_Bunk If this is your complaint about WoT, I'd recommend switching over to War Thunder. The gun is actually pointing in the same direction as the sight so you can't blame RNG if you miss.
@@wurfyy Unfortunately, War Thunder has its own glaring, greed-fuelled issues and blatantly neglected bugs. See Spookton’s YT channel for more info on that.
Very interesting history behind the scope; i remember the Karl's complains about how to zero it on InRangeTV, i bet the amount of profanity that didn't made it into the camera was high.
A lot of military leaders have struggled to differentiate between a designated marksman and a sniper.
Grats on 2M subscribers. I remember when you were doubtful that the channel would get to one mil!
Love coming home from work to a new video everyday ! Keep up the great work Ian !!
I'm just wondering if Ian has found any actual proof that the in the field ZF-41 mounts were real. I've heard for years that they may be a post war fantasy invention. So far nobody seems to know.
Kind of like every late war german plane
1:28 Had no complaints about my 5" 1/4 so far.
Congrats on 2M Ian, just realized you hit the milestone
"I want a scout rifle"
"We have a scout rifle at home"
The scout rifle at home: this.
Oh, so a piece of equipment not designed for a task is bad at the task. Who could have seen that coming?
If your using this scope nobody, but that's part of the problem.
Once they adopted this "miniscope" for the sniper role and kept using it year not bothering to get something better it earned the title "worst sniper scope". For its intended use it may have be useful enough thou.
@@michaelpettersson4919 what was the intended use
@@michaelpettersson4919The Wermacht did have a better scope for sniping, the ZF39. A 4x design from Carl Zeiss.
But they couldn't build them fast enough to meet the unexpected, by the military, demand for snipers and their kit.
Bausch of Bausch + Lomb, who sold off the rifle scope business and are now known as...Bushnell?
I’m continually blown away by the examples of vintage low and high production number military hardware that has survived for so very long.
Thank you for all you do
Not sure I've ever seen Ian in a flannel before
Germany now makes cars with heated turn signal stalks. How far we've come.
How long are you touching the turn signal stalks that you would notice the heater??
What a waste of money lul
Well...imagine it's the middle of winter and you're driving along with a deliciously warm heated steering wheel in your hands. Taking your hand off the wheel to indicate a lane change would be unbearable with the difference in temperatures between the two parts
;)
Wut? That sounds crazy, maybe I've never lived in a cold enough environment.
Hi Ian, this is Ken. Thank you for referring to my website. Recently, I myself have made short videos on ZF41s, so take a look if you would like. I would also like to mention that the beginning of those little scopes had already begun around 1938, before the Polish campaign, before the war. I have shown it in my video. I believe the lag explains they were originally intended for self-loaders and not for the K98k.
holy crap I sold that to Ian years ago. never thought I would see that again. glad to see it being taken care of
To be in a time where I can buy a cheap 2-7x42mm long eye relief scope for $50 and it’s better than this, which was fielded by an actual military.
Of course mine ain’t quick detach, that would be sweet. It’s on a mount that replaces the rear sight.
@latex glove theres no point to banning them lol, the average criminal doesn’t abide by the laws and thus doesn’t have to care about the ban; he will find a way to get a scope, meaning that MILITARY would have to respond without a large amount of casualties. You may ask “but the police can handle him,” no, they can’t if they don’t have precision scopes since they’re limited to the military
@latex glove you can't be serious, do you really believe optical sights really make a firearm that much more deadly? At what point does "harmless, bolt-action hunting rifle" become "deadly sniper rifle"?
Interesting issue regarding improving rifleman accuracy by adding optics. I've heard the biggest impediment to K98k combat accuracy was recoil and resultant anticipation flinch.
I think those openings were made on both shades to account for possible attachments of some sort or other, plausibly extending the shade further or what not. You can see how they resemble the retaining clips/tongues on the other side.
The slots on the sunshades are for dust clearing/debris clearing. That way you're blowing past the lens not into it. You blow on them like a flute and get a swirly clearing action. You can get stick or twig through the slot and knock out any clods of dirt so you don't have to bap the Schissenpeeper to knock clods out. It keeps dust from swirling across your view inside the shades in a crosswind as well.
Geez, 9 lenses they might as well have simply used a dot on a piece of waxed paper and one objective lens focused on the dot. This works _very_ surprisingly better than more complicated systems... try it.
I'm just sorta focused on Ian's shirt...
Are these atleast good for their intended purpose, as msrksman's scopes?
I never miss a video of gun Jesus.. been here from the start,, he deserves every subscription.. Ian is an eloquent professional
I love the way the subtitles render "Mauser" and "mouse or..."
Did I just click on an Elbonian episode.
When you got to the zeroing, there was no way you weren't taking the piss.
Sadly he isn't. I own a Kar98k with one of these things. The best thing to do is zero the thing for like 250 - 300 metets and make do.
Anything else is just asking for trouble.
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say more videos on optics would be awesome!
„And this did not go as planned“, WW2 in a Nutshell. At least from the German and Italian perspective.
Thank you , Ian .
Me: Can I have a sniper scope Hans?
Hans: We have superior sniper scopes in Berlin.
Sniper scopes in Berlin:
Hello Ian, seems you forgot to add the link to the website in the description. Can't seem to find it using the name you gave us.
It's there now.
@@ForgottenWeapons Thank you very much !
Thank you for this piece of History, Ian! Greetings from Germany!
Hmm, the spring-loaded closure on that carrying case looks exactly like the one on canteen pouches for German load-bearing gear.
*Me as a viewer of Soviet Womble*
"Ah, the worst scope was called ZF you say? Makes sense"
I had no idea the ZF-41 was so laughable as an optic lol and of course, in classic German style, it’s over-engineered lol
Can you pls make more videos about old scopes and sights like to exempel early red dot or pistol mounted scopes/sights since, at least for me, those are some of the most interesting things and I remember being super happy when you finally mais the video about the galiléen sight
Ian: ZF-41 is Germany's worst sniper scope
Red Orchestra 2 players: I feel that
Zeros with a figure 8 pattern.... Sounds like a real pain in the ass!
German HQ: We will provide our soldiers with tiny scopes. Otherwise the enemy might think we are overcompensating for something.
*Tiger gunner in the back*
"Vait, vhat?"
@Feminism is Cancer Who's Anti-German? You're delusional.
@Feminism is Cancer also objectively wrong, but sure. Enjoy the delusions.
So,I had a chance to handle one of these this past summer (2020) and the aiming reticle was decidedly different from the one shown here, it was essentially two illuminated red rings, concentric, and I think four stadia lines at 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock, kind of a busy reticle for such a small optic, but just curious if anyone has seen such, or if it's an odd one-off repro for WWII re-enacting?
Saw the headline as ZF-1 at first, what a wild feature that would be
Basically an example of "Good Idea, Bad Execution"
I think it was more: good idea, good enough execution, wrong use
The squad designated marksman is a good idea as far as current wisdom goes but yeah, execution didn't quite get there
About 10 years ago, there was a guy at the dallas gunshow with 2 BARRELS FULL of these....they were all horribly damaged. Guessed
russian capture. Wasnt sure why anyone wanted one other than for "neat" factor. They were in terrible condition.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 they were cheap enough. 20 bucks.
I have a 1942 K98K with a ZF39 LSR. I think it looks the best of all the scope variants out there
I wondered how the sight was regulated. Josh and Henry mentioned that the one that they tested was a bear to zero.
Did you make a celebratory video for 2 million subs? Because you deserve to brag a bit and also to give your subscribers a chance to fill the comments section with congratulations and praise. Thank you so much for the entertainment and education you have provided us over the years. Josef from Sweden.
You sir have read my mind.. I have been watching Ian since the beginning and this man deserves all the subs he gets.. I am from Canada 🍁 😁
@@simonpharand7427 Nice to meet another gentleman who has been along for the long ride. I take great pride in being a subscriber since Ian was doing videos in a little workshop with other people walking around in the background, and if I’m not mistaken I found his blog first to then be lead to the RUclips channel. I must admit that my activity on the blog is limited at best. You are another proof that forgotten weapons has the best and most polite comment section on RUclips. Nice to virtually meet you, Simon. Have a great 2021.
@@easterriot1916 real gun enthusiasts like us have a deep respect and understanding of firearms and the ingenuity of fabrication ... not some main stream media pushing a 30 clip magazine full auto chain saw wielding semi auto 556 assault rifle bullshit...
@@simonpharand7427 Not to mention all the history that goes along with it. My understanding of 1850 to present is greatly increased by all the tidbits of information that goes along with every story/video/firearm!
@@simonpharand7427 what California politician explanation was that? Lol
"The Russians took sniping basically more seriously than anyone else in the world"
*stares at Finland*
I wonder why that could be.
[Russia, as Mos Def from the Italian Job] "I had a bad experience"
Snow whispers
That's a serious wake up call how important a good sniper can be for a war
It could in theory be cheaper to train and equip a handful of snipers who could hold back a german platoon
Finland also taught Stalin that executing officers did reduce their efficiency.
Very interesting. I'm surprised I've never heard of them before given how many WWII video games and documentaries are out there.
That first pound during your "so!" Made me jump lol.
this guys makes me feel like he's a firearms version of Cody'sLab, a Cody'sArsenal if you will
Scout scope!!
Very cool video. Always enjoy sharing an early morning cup of java with the Gun Guru.
I'd be tempted to use the hole in the rear shade to tie some string and secure it to the scope mount. It looks like that piece could fall off and be lost very easily.
For anyone wanting more video on this. Ian did a video on this scope at in range ruclips.net/video/2oNTKnYMfI8/видео.html
Someone up above referred to this as "classic content".
I appreciate not having to search it up for myself, cheers.
Thank you for linking this!
Heroes & Generals WWII Flashbacks. I hate ZF-41 in this game.
It's too bad we couldn't get the scope with its original weapon, I appreciate the information still
Despite the ZF-41's failings, I'm still enamored with the theory of the scope. It may quite possibly be that I read too much of Jeff Cooper's work as a kid and it all left an impression on me.
WW2 Germany inventing the DMR role before they even know the word
I imagine there wasnt as much of a need for DMRs when everyone had high caliber rifles. But when it came to sniping, russia was way ahead of the world. IIRC they had hundreds of thousands of snipers during WW2, way more than anyone else.
Accuracy training but no sniper kinda field craft training. just like the designated marksman the US and many others use roday
And used designated marksman rather than snipers during the cold war
as gun jesus said
not really a sniper scope
Thou art neither sniper scope nor red dot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Could the little rectangular holes in the shades be for a leather strap? Run a thin leather strip through it, tie a knot, then twist each shade and you have a retention system. Alternatively leather or alternate material caps for the shades that may have been dropped for production cost reasons.
I wonder if Col. Cooper saw this before or when he was developing his idea of the “Scout Rifle”